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Speaker 2: I mean, the evidence is with us every single time

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Speaker 2: we start this show on a Sunday at five Pacific

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Speaker 2: in eight Eastern, because every single time we get together,

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Speaker 2: the NFL world is different. Every single Sunday brings us

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Speaker 2: brand new storylines and different situations for teams that we

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Speaker 2: didn't see coming. Mark Willard Kyle, Rudolph Kyle, do you

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Speaker 2: consider yourself a planner? Like if someone said or you

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Speaker 3: I would say yes, I'm definitely Okay.

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Speaker 2: Well, then we should talk about this because I don't

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Speaker 2: even know why people plan ahead in the NFL, because

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Speaker 2: everything changes lakety split in the snap of a finger.

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Speaker 2: And what a great person to talk to tonight as

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Speaker 2: we see the entire world change before our eyes, for

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Speaker 2: the entire Minnesota Vikings organization. They sit here on this

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Speaker 2: particular Sunday night, looking at the future of their quarterback position,

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Speaker 2: looking at the future of their wide receiver who is

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Speaker 2: hurt and there will be questions now about whether he

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Speaker 2: should or will come back when he's ready to go.

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Speaker 2: They've got another young wide receiver who has every look

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Speaker 2: of the ability to be a number one in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: and now how is this all going to look going forward?

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Speaker 2: So with a torn achilles and I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it's been confirmed, but let's be honest, we all know it.

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Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins tour.

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Speaker 2: His achilles and everything is different for the Minnesota Vikings organization.

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Speaker 2: So first, just kind of like take us through your

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Speaker 2: emotions and your thoughts as you saw this unfold today.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think you see it in the

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Speaker 3: Vikings locker room after the game. This is a team

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Speaker 3: that just won a game on the road against a

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Speaker 3: division rival. I get it. The division's not very good.

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Speaker 3: Green Bay is not very good, but it's still You

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Speaker 3: look at their last two NFC North games. They won

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Speaker 3: play on the road in the NFC North. You know,

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Speaker 3: whether we were really good in Chicago, was really bad

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Speaker 3: to Chicago, they get a win, they play you know,

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Speaker 3: arguably the best team in the NFC at the time,

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Speaker 3: in the San Francisco forty nine ers on Monday Night,

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Speaker 3: another huge win. Then they win their third in a

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Speaker 3: row on the road in the division at Lambeau, and

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Speaker 3: I saw some footage of the locker room after the game,

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Speaker 3: and Kevin O'Connell, who I love and I think is

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Speaker 3: a phenomenal football coach, and personally, aside from Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 3: probably the person I feel the worst for right now,

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Speaker 3: because that locker room was just, I mean, it was done.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've been in that locker room where we've

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Speaker 3: won at Lambeau, and that locker room that I saw

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Speaker 3: on the Viking social media was not one of, hey,

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Speaker 3: we've won three in a row. If the season ended

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Speaker 3: right now we are in the playoffs as the seven seed.

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Speaker 3: It was a locker room of we just lost our quarterback.

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Speaker 3: What are we going to do now?

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Speaker 4: Exactly?

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Speaker 2: And that that's why I look at the NFL world

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Speaker 2: talking about the super Bowl in October.

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Speaker 4: Who's the favorite here? What's going to happen there?

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Speaker 2: We're all guilty of it because it's impossible to sort

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Speaker 2: of avoid, like avoid the way our brains work when

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Speaker 2: we see something. You know, you mentioned the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to them in a little bit, you know.

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Speaker 2: Three weeks ago, people were like, man, is it crazy

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Speaker 2: to think about like an undefeated season. They haven't won

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Speaker 2: a game since then. Everything changes on an absolute dime.

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Speaker 2: But there's nothing in the NFL that is a bigger

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Speaker 2: change than when the quarterback goes down. I think of

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Speaker 2: some of the famous moments throughout history. I mean, not

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Speaker 2: just the NFC title game last year for that Niners organization,

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Speaker 2: but think about Keishawn Johnson pounding on a table when

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Speaker 2: his quarterback went out. Think about Terrell Owens and his

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Speaker 2: press conference. Sure people don't look at the Vikings as

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl contender, so maybe it doesn't feel that

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Speaker 4: That way there three in a row.

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Speaker 2: Get back to four and four, but questions even beyond

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Speaker 2: this year, All of it now suddenly feels scrapped. Kyle

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Speaker 2: is Kirk Cousins played his last down for the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so personally, you know, I ahead at

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Speaker 3: what this means, not only for Kirk, but for the organization.

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Speaker 3: I think Kirk wants to remain in Minnesota, and maybe

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Speaker 3: this is what it takes for the team. You know,

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Speaker 3: we ultimately said, how how does the Minnesota Vikings keep

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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins and also keep Justin Jefferson because the numbers

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Speaker 3: don't work out. And the numbers were not going to

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Speaker 3: gonna have to pay him north of fifty million dollars.

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Speaker 3: You might not have to do that anymore. This might

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Speaker 3: be an opportunity for the Minnesota Vikings organization to now

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Speaker 3: be like, Kirk, look, you're thirty four years old. You know,

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Speaker 3: we want to keep you here for a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: We understand you know, rehab, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: We're going to take care of you. Here's another two years.

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Speaker 3: Whatever they decide that the contract is, they get to

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Speaker 3: keep Kirk at a lower cap number. I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: he's going to go play there for free, play there

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Speaker 3: for a minimum deal, but it's not going to be

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Speaker 3: that astronomical number that it would have been had he

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Speaker 3: the flip side, when you look at what this means

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Speaker 3: for the Vikings team and the rest of the season,

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Speaker 3: I remember the conversations we had week one after Aaron

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Speaker 3: now talking about Kirk Cousins and his achilles, But the

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Speaker 3: point was that Jets team was a roster that was

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Speaker 3: built to win a Super Bowl without Aaron Rodgers. Like,

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Speaker 3: was the piece that was supposed to get them over

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Speaker 3: the top. When I look at the Minnesota Vikings, I

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Speaker 3: don't see the same thing. I don't see a roster

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Speaker 3: you know, to me, I see it as a team

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Speaker 3: rest of it. Maybe you kind of those that you

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Speaker 3: get your cake and you can eat it too. You

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Speaker 3: see what happens for the long term trajectory of your organization.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, the first thing you do is you find out

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Speaker 2: exactly who it was and what they did to work

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Speaker 2: on Aaron Rodgers, and you go to the exact same person.

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Speaker 2: Because that's the other thing I mean with Aaron taking

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Speaker 2: this used to mean. It wasn't that long ago, Kyle,

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Speaker 2: that if you tour your achilles at age thirty five

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Speaker 2: as a professional athlete, night night, what you're not playing

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Speaker 2: sports anymore after thirty five when you tear your achilles.

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Speaker 2: Here's Aaron Rodgers threatening to come back this year. Because

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Speaker 2: that's the other thing you talk about maybe a better

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Speaker 2: deal for the Vikings next year, you know, is Kirk

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Speaker 2: Cousins even ready by week one next year.

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Speaker 3: I definitely think Kirk rehabs and he will be one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent healthy come week one next year. Quite honestly,

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Speaker 3: I think he'd even be able to take some snaps

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Speaker 3: in the offseason. You know, he'd be a guy, especially

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Speaker 3: things that he can do. But you know, I remember

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Speaker 3: I was like, is that possible? Like how could that?

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Speaker 3: It's less than four months away? And I remember saying, like,

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Speaker 3: there's there's types of human beings that you just don't

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Speaker 3: bet against. I remember during my time in Minnesota, Adrian

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Speaker 3: we were just back late March early April for OTAs

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Speaker 3: love to talk about the Jets too, because you look

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Speaker 3: Aaron back. And now the team at four and three.

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Speaker 3: I saw a tweet from Kyle Brandt over at NFL

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Speaker 3: nine and eight eight nine around Christmas and all of

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Speaker 3: is ready to go. I'm not betting against that football team,

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Speaker 3: no way, not the talent that they have around him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, questions about whether or not they can actually get

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Speaker 2: They've had two weeks in a row where they've had

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Speaker 2: away from them, But you're right. Maybe the AFC also

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Speaker 2: isn't as top heavy as we thought. There are as

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Speaker 2: if those teams are as dominant as we thought.

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Speaker 4: The Bills have warts.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs showed some today as well, so can the

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Speaker 2: Jets hang around in this conversation. Totally fair question that

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Speaker 2: leave the vikings, Kyle, we have to answer this question,

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Speaker 2: If you're justin Jefferson, what are you thinking tonight?

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking that my agent's send over the most recent

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Speaker 3: contract proposal is what I'm thinking. It's just if you're

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Speaker 3: we've talked about Justin at length, and he's a guy

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Speaker 3: you have the contract that you deserve. In my opinion,

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Speaker 3: I am in total agree with you.

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Speaker 2: This is the moment where things turn because it already

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Speaker 2: Now obviously there are four and four that's gone the

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Speaker 4: Much more complicated.

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Speaker 2: But by the same token, this guy has shown that

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Speaker 4: In terms of the top receivers in the game.

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Speaker 2: Many would say that he is number one, and based

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Speaker 2: And so now you're going to take not just injury

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Speaker 2: and there's flat out no way that Justin Jefferson's numbers

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think about the chemistry between quarterback and

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Speaker 3: There's a reason why Justin's targeted as much as he's targeted.

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Speaker 3: You know, Kirk knows where he's gonna be. Justin knows

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Speaker 3: have your starting quarterback anymore. Yes, your record is for

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Speaker 3: So again I go back to my statement, if you're

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Speaker 4: Okay, so we're in agreement on that.

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Speaker 2: But how does that look because the whole thing's been tabled,

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Speaker 4: But are you saying that now?

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Speaker 2: Yes, the agent picks up the phone and the Vikings

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the Vikings' willingness to do it

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Speaker 3: not negotiating in season. I get it, We've all been

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Speaker 2: I just say, it's so fascinating to me because we're

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Speaker 2: I've got dreams of like the best young receiving corps

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean again, we've talked about this at length.

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Speaker 2: Totally, totally, And by the way, let's not forget there

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Speaker 3: offensive skill players they have in the receiver room, it's

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Speaker 3: an offense that would be extremely tough to defend. So

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Speaker 3: you know, certainly it gives you the pieces moving forward

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Speaker 3: that you talked about, But are you really willing to

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Speaker 3: trade away some draft picks and things like that that

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Speaker 3: you you're really gonna need?

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Speaker 4: Those?

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Speaker 3: You need as many as you possibly can get right now.

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Speaker 3: If you're gonna go pay these guys these extremely high salaries,

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Speaker 3: you gotta hit on draft picks, and you gotta have

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Speaker 3: a lot of young players playing.

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Speaker 4: No doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we'll get to that Jets conversation here in

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Speaker 2: just a minute, but right now, let's get to Kevin

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Speaker 2: Wired with all of the latest in what is trending.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Kevin, Yeah, full well, largely full slate of NFL

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Speaker 5: Action today Sunday Night football, Bears and Chargers just getting

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Speaker 5: underway in Los Angeles at SOFI Stadium. No score they

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Speaker 5: got about nine minutes ago in the first quarter. Tyson

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Speaker 5: Baijen already though with forty one passing yards. Some scores

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Speaker 5: from the late slate of games. Bengals over the forty

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Speaker 5: nine Ers thirty one seventeen Rock Party three hundred and

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Speaker 5: sixty five yards, but he was picked off twice. Joe

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Speaker 5: Burrow looking like you never really had a CAF injury.

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Speaker 5: Three passing touchdowns as the Bengals now for the first

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Speaker 5: time this season, get above five hundred at four and

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Speaker 5: Threeves meet the Cardinals thirty one twenty four. Gus Edwards

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Speaker 5: had three rushing touchdowns on the afternoon. The big upset

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Speaker 5: though of the day in the AFC West, the Broncos

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Speaker 5: defense really stepping up to make life difficult for Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: Mahomes and the gun four man pressure. Mahomes sets up

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Speaker 3: and the Throwsy Paul's gonna.

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Speaker 1: Be intercepted, intercepted it up and running.

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Speaker 4: Second turnover by.

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Speaker 6: The Broncos that's picked off by Jakwan McMillon.

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Speaker 5: Kawa Denver there with the call. The Broncos hold the

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Speaker 5: Chiefs to just nine points as they win at twenty

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Speaker 5: four to nine. That was one of two interceptions thrown

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Speaker 5: by Patrick Mahomes. On the afternoon, Seahawks hold off the

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Speaker 5: Browns twenty four to twenty. Gino Smith a couple of

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Speaker 5: touchdown passes. In the early slate of games, the Panthers

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Speaker 5: get their first win of the season fifteen thirteen over

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Speaker 5: the Houston Texans. Eagles come back against the Commanders thirty

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Speaker 5: eight thirty one. Jaguars over the Steelers twenty ten, and

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Speaker 5: what it was probably the ugliest game of this season

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Speaker 5: at the Meadowlands, the Jets, with just one second to go,

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Speaker 5: able to spike the ball. That was after Graham Gano

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Speaker 5: actually missed a field goal. They drove down the field,

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Speaker 5: got to field goal range and were able to spike

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Speaker 5: you with one second left to force overtime. They got

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Speaker 5: the field goal good to force overtime. They eventually do

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Speaker 5: win it thirteen to ten. Dolphins beat the Patriots thirty

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Speaker 5: one seventeen two. Otagovailoa had three touchdowns at three an

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Speaker 5: twenty four passing yards, Jalen Wado one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 5: one receiving yards and a touchdown. Saints over the Colts

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Speaker 5: thirty eight, twenty seven Titans beat the Falcons twenty eight

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Speaker 5: twenty three. Vikings over the Packers twenty four to ten.

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Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins though having to leave the game the team

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Speaker 5: fears that he could be out for the season with

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Speaker 5: a torn achilles and the Cowboys demolished the Rams forty

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Speaker 5: three to twenty. Although that game wasn't even that close.

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Speaker 5: It was thirty three to three at one point. Dak

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Speaker 5: Prescott four touchdowns, the Cowboys defense they picked six, and

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Speaker 5: their special teams got themselves a block punt. So well,

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Speaker 5: all around, good day for the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Back to you guys, all right, Kevin, thank you.

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Speaker 2: We can also update you that Austin Eckler just had

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Speaker 2: a nine yard touchdown catch from Justin Herbert on the

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Speaker 2: opening drive for the Chargers, and so with the extra

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Speaker 2: point pending, the Chargers on the board first six to nothing.

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Speaker 2: Mark Willard, Kyle Rudolph Live ty rack dot Com Studios.

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Speaker 2: We are in the final stretch to get tickets to

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Speaker 2: horse racing's.

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Speaker 4: Biggest moment of the year.

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Speaker 2: The world's best are headed to Santa Anita for the Breeders'

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Speaker 2: Cup World Championships November third and fourth, the countdown begins

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Speaker 2: now get tickets today at Breeders Cup dot Com. I

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Speaker 2: should have mentioned this, actually, Kyle, how excited I am

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Speaker 2: that you and I get to actually watch Brandon Staley

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Speaker 2: coach live. As we discussed it, I'm expecting fireworks. I

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Speaker 2: can't wait for him to go forward on fifth down

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Speaker 2: every time it happens.

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Speaker 4: This should be a fun ride tonight.

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Speaker 3: So unfortunately we'll be off air the last four minutes

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Speaker 3: of the game, so we won't be able to see

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Speaker 3: how he handles that down the stretch. But no, certainly

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Speaker 3: it'll be It'll be a good one. Obviously. You've got

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Speaker 3: two teams here that are you know, I feel like

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Speaker 3: we've talked about that Minnesota Vikings. You know, their back

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Speaker 3: was up against the wall and they're going around. You

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Speaker 3: got two teams here that both have two wins, and

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Speaker 3: if they want to get back into the playoff picture

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Speaker 3: in the AFC and the NFC, certainly it starts with

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Speaker 3: a win tonight. So it'll be a fun one to watch.

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting here looking at the at the standings in

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Speaker 2: the NFL, and you had mentioned the Jets, what an

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Speaker 2: interesting situation they're in.

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Speaker 4: They're now four and three.

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Speaker 2: They've scored one hundred and twenty six points this year

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Speaker 2: in in seven football games. The only teams that have

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Speaker 2: fewer points than that, they're a handful of them, the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: The Raiders, the New York Giants, And I think that's it.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 2: So basically, it's teams that have all been discussing quarterback

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Speaker 2: in aptitude, coaching changes, angry fan bases. That's who the

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Speaker 2: New York Jets have been as an offense. So as

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Speaker 2: we play a game of believe or don't believe in

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Speaker 2: Zach Wilson, where are we at? Because yes, four and three,

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Speaker 2: But I also did I watched a healthy portion of

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Speaker 2: that game today, and while he has the arm ability

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Speaker 2: to make some big time throws like he did at

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Speaker 2: the end, his field presence still to me looks unbelievably bad.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't see pass rushers who are literally coming on

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Speaker 2: his site side. I mean, Thibodeau was right in his

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Speaker 2: face and he just sat there and moved around until

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Speaker 2: he could take a sack.

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Speaker 4: It just it's.

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Speaker 2: It's he's a flawed player. And I think that that's

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Speaker 2: that's not breaking news. But I just wonder when you

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Speaker 2: look at four and three are we talking about fools

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Speaker 2: gold right now?

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Speaker 6: For the New York Jets, Well, I think when you

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Speaker 6: really dive into it, and you know, you can certainly

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Speaker 6: look at the thirteen to ten score and the sheer

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Speaker 6: lack of offense on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 3: But you know, if you watch that game live at all,

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Speaker 3: it was just disgusting. It's pouring down rain the entire time.

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Speaker 3: It's sloppy. Okay, we'll give these guys the benefit of

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Speaker 3: the doubt. And you know, you look at back at

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Speaker 3: some of the other games, and we scored twenty points

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Speaker 3: against Philly thirty one, twenty three. You know, it's scored

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Speaker 3: twenty points against the Chiefs with that close Sunday night

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Speaker 3: football loss. So I do believe that over the next

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Speaker 3: seven or eight weeks, which that kind of takes you

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Speaker 3: to almost Christmas or through Christmas, which is where we

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Speaker 3: all believe that Sano will bring Aaron Rodgers in the Jets'

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Speaker 3: best Christmas present of all time, bringing him back. Around

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Speaker 3: that time period. Five of those eight games are against

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Speaker 3: teams that are either five hundred or worse. Right now,

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Speaker 3: with the Chargers having two wins the Raiders having three wins,

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Speaker 3: the Commanders having three wins, the Texans having three wins,

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Speaker 3: and the best team record wise that they face out

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Speaker 3: of those five hundred or worst teams are the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 3: So I personally believe that the Jets can win those

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Speaker 3: games just based on the rest of the talent and

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Speaker 3: the defense that they have, just like they've done to

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Speaker 3: get to four and three. So you look at it,

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Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, the first seven weeks they're four and three,

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Speaker 3: can they be four and three the next seven weeks?

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Speaker 3: And it's like, I absolutely can find four wins in

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Speaker 3: there that they can win, almost in spite of Zach Wilson,

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Speaker 3: just pure talent on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: So I think it could get really interesting if you're

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Speaker 3: looking at a eight and six, nine and seven team

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Speaker 3: around Christmas time and you have Aaron Rodgers walking through

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Speaker 3: the door and they're in that six to seventh spot

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Speaker 3: in the AFC Wild Card.

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Speaker 2: No doubt about it. But they you're right, they will

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Speaker 2: stay in games. That defense is not gonna let anybody

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Speaker 2: run away. And as the weather continues to build into

595
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Speaker 2: November and December, it's a team that is going to

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Speaker 2: have opportunities to win games, all right, Mark Willard, Kyle Rudolph.

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Speaker 2: How about the contender? Nobody's talking about No. One, and

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Speaker 2: we'll get to that coming up next. And then what's

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Speaker 2: wrong with the forty nine ers? We'll do that at

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Speaker 2: the top of the hour as well. Mark Willard, Kyle Rudolph.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this, Kyle, I'm hearing a lot

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Speaker 2: of it. Well, it's the NFL. Anything can happen on

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Speaker 2: any given week, And that's true, that's true. It's also

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Speaker 2: the kind of thing that you say when when your

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Speaker 2: favorite team is a really good team and their favorite

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Speaker 2: and they come out and lay an egg. Niners have

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Speaker 2: done it a few weeks in a row, Kansas City

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Speaker 2: Chiefs did it today. Never found the end zone. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk about all of that and those teams for sure.

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Speaker 2: But if that's the case, if it's in any given

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Speaker 2: Sunday type of a conversation and a narrative, well then

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Speaker 2: what about when it goes the other way. You can't

627
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Speaker 2: blow off a winning streak. I don't care who you

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Speaker 2: were playing. And actually, if you dive deep into who

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Speaker 2: this team has been playing, it hasn't even been Cupcake City.

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo, and it's road games in the Dome in

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Speaker 2: New Orleans and on the road at Pittsburgh where Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin always seems to find a way talk to me

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Speaker 2: about the five game win streak of the Jacksonville Jaguars,

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Speaker 2: and Kyle try to convince me that this team is

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Speaker 2: not a real contender, because I think they are.

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Speaker 3: No, I agree with you that they are. Especially you

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Speaker 3: look at the top of the AFC right now and

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Speaker 3: we have four teams tied at six and two and

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Speaker 3: they're one of those four. And you know, the first

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Speaker 3: four games of that five game win streak was over

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Speaker 3: the course of nineteen days. You know, they play Atlanta

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Speaker 3: in London, then they played Buffalo in London, then they

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Speaker 3: come home and play Indie, and then in a short

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Speaker 3: week go to the Dome in New Orleans. And it's

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Speaker 3: all impressive wins. But quite honestly, it's hard to pick

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Speaker 3: one that impresses me the most. But today might have

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Speaker 3: been it. We had talked about the sloppy conditions in

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Speaker 3: New York with the Jets and the Giants, and if

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Speaker 3: you watched any of the Steelers Jags game today, it

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Speaker 3: was very similar weather in Pittsburgh on the natural grass.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's a game that the Steelers historically always,

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Speaker 3: like you said, find a way to win. So for

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Speaker 3: this Jacksonville team, you know, a team that a lot

654
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Speaker 3: of times, you know, we said it about Miami, well

655
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Speaker 3: can they win tough games when the weather's not perfect?

656
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Speaker 3: And you know it's a They're a Florida team, so

657
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: therefore they're they're soft and they can't play on the

658
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Speaker 3: road in tough weather conditions. You know, I'm not saying

659
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Speaker 3: that this Pittsburgh team are world beaters atop the AFC,

660
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Speaker 3: but it is a really, really tough place to play,

661
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Speaker 3: especially in the weather conditions that they played in today.

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Speaker 3: And you know, here they are just taking it one

663
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Speaker 3: week at a time, going out beating the team that's

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Speaker 3: across from them. And you know, I know we'll segue

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Speaker 3: to your Niners here at some point, and you know,

666
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Speaker 3: maybe no better time than right now, because that's who

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Speaker 3: they welcome to Jacksonville next week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, actually that's after the buye. Now the Niners have

670
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Speaker 2: a bye and then their next game will be at Jacksonville.

671
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Speaker 2: And and so it's not a great opponent for the

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Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine ers because they're playing great, and

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Speaker 2: the Niners need a cupcake. Man, they need something to

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Speaker 2: get themselves right. There's a lot of meat on that bone.

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Speaker 2: So talk about it in a sec. But I do

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Speaker 2: wonder this my one question with the Jags, because their

677
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Speaker 2: defense has been underrated and solid. I think Travis etn

678
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Speaker 2: has reached a point where he is one of the

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Speaker 2: top bellcal backs in football where there aren't a lot

680
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Speaker 2: of them, and he does not get discussed a lot.

681
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Speaker 2: Seventy nine on the ground, seventy through the air, a touchdown,

682
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Speaker 2: and so a beautiful game from him. I'm very impressed

683
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Speaker 2: with what he brings to the table. Trevor Lawrence, I

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Speaker 2: think is ready, but he is still prone to the

685
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Speaker 2: head scratching red zone interception. He threw one today and

686
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Speaker 2: so I look, we watched him come from behind in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs last year, and he certainly didn't embarrass himself

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Speaker 2: in Kansas City when.

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Speaker 4: They got knocked out.

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Speaker 2: But to me, that's kind of the last question that

691
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Speaker 2: needs to be answered with this team. Is Trevor ready

692
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Speaker 2: to go like playoff toe to toe with Patrick or

693
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Speaker 2: Josh and outduel them.

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Speaker 3: Well, when I look at this Jacksonville Jaguars team as

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Speaker 3: a whole, I think Trevor is ready to take that

696
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Speaker 3: next step. But I think he's ready to outduel a

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow because of the guys

698
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Speaker 3: that are around him and because of the way that

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Speaker 3: Jacksonville has built this team. You know, when I look

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Speaker 3: at Josh Allen and Joe Burrow, if they go play

701
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Speaker 3: Kansas City, they have to beat Patrick Mahomes and the

702
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Speaker 3: Chiefs by themselves. When I look at Trevor Lawrence and

703
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Speaker 3: this Jaguars team, he doesn't have to you mentioned Etn

704
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Speaker 3: in the backfield. He's got weapons in the receiver room,

705
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Speaker 3: the tight end room. They have a good defense with

706
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Speaker 3: a good pass rush and one of the best as

707
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Speaker 3: rushers in football in the other, Josh Allen. So it's

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Speaker 3: a team that I feel like sets up to where

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Speaker 3: he doesn't have to go be a world beater and

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Speaker 3: outduel of Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs, just has to

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Speaker 3: go play solid and elimiting those red zone interceptions would

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Speaker 3: certainly help.

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Speaker 2: We are in the tie rack dot Com studios. That's

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Speaker 2: Kyle Rudolph on Mark Willard. You mentioned it already, Let's

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Speaker 2: do it. Let's talk about the forty nine ers coming

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Speaker 2: up next on Fox Sports Radio. Kyle brock Purdy is

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Speaker 2: good for business. There are a number of names in

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Speaker 2: sports that seemingly just become polarizing for many, many different reasons,

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Speaker 2: and you will watch people in our business go straight

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Speaker 2: to those names over and over because the listeners, the

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Speaker 2: sports fans around the country, they want to hear those

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Speaker 2: names because there are opinions.

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Speaker 4: That will fly.

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Speaker 2: However, while there is a turnover bug for Brockperdy, he

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Speaker 2: got that bug. He caught something, and we need to

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Speaker 2: talk about that. I'm telling you right now as someone

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Speaker 2: who's watched every snap this year, he is not the

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers biggest problem. Their biggest problem is a

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Speaker 2: complete head scratcher. We need to talk it out and

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Speaker 2: somebody is going to have to explain to me how

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Speaker 2: the highest priced defense, the biggest name defense, a group

737
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Speaker 2: that has been year in and year out, effective, fantastic,

738
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Speaker 2: perennial Top five, and then they break off their best player,

739
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Speaker 2: the biggest contract in the history of defense in the

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Speaker 2: National Football League, and they flat out can't produce. They

741
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: can't stop the run, they can't stop the pass. They

742
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: look totally confused.

743
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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow through four.

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00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 2: Incomplete passes all day long. Count them four. And that's

745
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Speaker 2: the guy who stands behind a much maligned offensive line

746
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Speaker 2: and supposedly had a calf injury that's been dogging him

747
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Speaker 2: all year. They had no problem getting to thirty one points.

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Speaker 2: Inside the forty nine Ers building. There's a new DC.

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Speaker 2: It's Steve Wilkes. We know who he is and what

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Speaker 2: he does, and it's very different than what they've done

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Speaker 2: in the past.

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Speaker 4: So tell me, Kyle, what is going on here? Is

753
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Speaker 4: this players or is this scheme?

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't think schematically is different than what you've

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Speaker 3: seen out of that San Francisco forty nine Ers defense

756
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 3: in years prior under Demico and Sala. You know, Wilkes

757
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 3: wants to run, you know, a lot more zone coverage.

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Speaker 3: You know, I remember back in the day when you know,

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Speaker 3: Josh Norman got paid all that money in Carolina, and

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Speaker 3: it became, well, why aren't you following the best receiver

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Speaker 3: if you're making all that money. It's because that's not

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Speaker 3: the type of defense they played. They were a zone team.

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Speaker 3: He played on his side of the the line of

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Speaker 3: his side of the ball. You know, I played against

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Speaker 3: this defense quite a bit under Robert Sala. Same way

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Speaker 3: like Sharm wasn't going and following the best receiver. He

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Speaker 3: played on his side of the ball and he stayed there.

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Speaker 3: And you know, you see that with this team. I

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Speaker 3: think it was a defense up until the last couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks. You know, that's that's played like the defense

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Speaker 3: has played in the past. But you know, it's the

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Speaker 3: way things go sometimes. You know, I don't necessarily I

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Speaker 3: think it's, oh man, we need to figure out what's

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Speaker 3: going on with this defense. More so, you know, certainly

775
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 3: Brock has got to stop turning the ball over. You know,

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Speaker 3: if he plays a cleaner game and has three hundred

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Speaker 3: and sixty five yards a touchdown and no picks, you know,

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Speaker 3: we might be looking at a score that's not thirty

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Speaker 3: one to seventeen. It probably would have been a little

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Speaker 3: bit closer. Certainly gave the Bengals some opportunities there with

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Speaker 3: shorts fields. But I also think for the first time

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Speaker 3: in a long time, certainly this season, we saw a

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Speaker 3: Bengals offense that was reminiscent of the Bengals offense that

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Speaker 3: took them to back to back AFC Championship games and

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Speaker 3: a Super Bowl appearance two years ago. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying that just because Joe Burrow went twenty eight of

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Speaker 3: thirty two and you mentioned the four incompletions, I had

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Speaker 3: one less touchdown than incompletions. My favorite one quarterbacks to

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Speaker 3: throwing about the same amount of touchdowns as they do

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Speaker 3: in completions, that's when you know they're on The biggest

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Speaker 3: thing for me was Joe Mixon. We haven't seen Joe

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Speaker 3: Mixon in the run game for the Bengals be a factor,

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Speaker 3: and no better week for the run game to be

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Speaker 3: a factor than against this forty nine Ers defense. You

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Speaker 3: mentioned all of the high paid, high priced, superstar players

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Speaker 3: on that side of the ball, with the highest paid

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Speaker 3: player on that side of the ball and his inability

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Speaker 3: to get to the quarterback, and I honestly think it's

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Speaker 3: because of the way the Bengals were able to run

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Speaker 3: the football, the way they were able to use Joe

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Speaker 3: Mixon both in the run game catching the ball out

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Speaker 3: of the backfield. It just that Bengals offense is the

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Speaker 3: offense that we saw prior to Joe's injury and then

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Speaker 3: missing all of preseason. Just hadn't seen it all year

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Speaker 3: up to this point. So I think it's a combination

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Speaker 3: of both. I think it's you got to give the

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Speaker 3: Bengals offense credit. The way they played today, taking advantage

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Speaker 3: of those two rock Party interceptions, and not as much

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Speaker 3: the sky's falling on this incredible forty nine Ers defense,

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Speaker 3: because you know that defense is not far removed from

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Speaker 3: some pretty incredible performances up to this point.

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Speaker 2: Well early on in the season, they did. They had,

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Speaker 2: They had some OK performances, for sure. They The one

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Speaker 2: that impressed me was the way that they were able

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Speaker 2: to handle and knock around the Dallas Cowboys on Sunday

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Speaker 2: Night football. Outside of that, you know you're playing Daniel

817
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Speaker 2: Jones on a Thursday night. That's somebody who they That

818
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: whole offense has been a mess all year. If you

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Speaker 2: go to their Rams victory at SOFI Stadium, anybody who's

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Speaker 2: a Rams fan will tell you Matt Stafford was moving

821
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Speaker 2: the ball up and down the field and only when

822
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Speaker 2: all all bounced off the hands of Kyron Williams and

823
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Speaker 2: into the hands of a forty nine er defender did

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Speaker 2: the momentum and sort of who was leading the game

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Speaker 2: did that suddenly switch. They had a great performance at

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and the opener for sure, but again I would

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Speaker 2: not call that a high powered offense. That's another young

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Speaker 2: quarterback who's still kind of learning his way. I tell

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Speaker 2: you what, Kyle, I hear what you're saying, but I

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Speaker 2: think there are problems. I really do when I hear

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Speaker 2: Nick Bosa come out. And this was not today, This

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Speaker 2: was after last week's loss and talk about two things.

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Speaker 2: A he did take some of the blame on himself

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Speaker 2: and say that missing training camp was a problem, but

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Speaker 2: he also talked about the blitz heavy scheme of Steve

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Speaker 2: Wilkes and how it's uncomfortable and how he's just not

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Speaker 2: used to it. And so I'm not even saying it's wrong.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying that a new learning curve has been created

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Speaker 2: for a defense where I would argue it wasn't broke,

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Speaker 2: so don't fix it. The forty nine ers having somebody

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Speaker 2: come into their building and just run the ball in

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Speaker 2: between the tackles, especially as you point out a running

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Speaker 2: back who has not had a game like that all

844
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Speaker 2: year long, it is such a red flag to me,

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Speaker 2: especially when their biggest free agent signing was brought in

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Speaker 2: to specifically address this. They took Javon Hargrave from the Eagles,

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Speaker 2: gave him a bunch of money and said you're gonna

848
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Speaker 2: plug the middle of this field. So running backs don't

849
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Speaker 2: do that, and it's not working. It's just not happening.

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Speaker 2: The Browns ran all over them. Madison had a really

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Speaker 2: good yard per carry average for the Vikings, and Kirk

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Speaker 2: Cousins on third down was incredible. And today is just

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Speaker 2: another block on the Jenga tower, if you will.

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Speaker 3: Kyle, Well you mentioned it before. You know, both the

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Speaker 3: Jaguars and the Niners will go into the bye week

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Speaker 3: this week, and then they play each other on the twelfth,

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Speaker 3: So you know, no better time for the forty nine

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Speaker 3: ers to take a step back. You know, they they

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00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 3: start this season five straight wins. You know, we heard

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Speaker 3: all the rumblings of well this team lose a game

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Speaker 3: all year. You know, they're gonna go undefeated potentially, And

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, you got to give the Browns

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Speaker 3: credit because you know, we talked about it that night.

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Speaker 3: It's if you're going to beat the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 3: nine ers, how are you going to beat them? You know,

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Speaker 3: you physically have to beat them up, and they did,

867
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 3: and I think you know here now, you know, certainly

868
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 3: we're talking a lot more about the defense than the offense.

869
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 3: But you know, the best way to get more pressure

870
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 3: on the quarterback and get more sacks on the quarterback

871
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 3: is playing with an offense that has all of its

872
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 3: weapons and gets out in front, and you're a defense

873
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: that's playing with a lead, and it's it's crazy because

874
00:49:54,360 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 3: I think none more so than the cliche of the

875
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 3: NFL being oh, it's week by week, anything can happen.

876
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: Anyone can beat anyone. We take it one week at

877
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 3: a time, is the impact that injuries and performance from

878
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 3: one side of the ball can have on the other.

879
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 3: I think when we just individually look at a San

880
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 3: Francisco forty nine ers defense and the performances that they had,

881
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden you go back and say, oh, well,

882
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 3: now they're struggling to stop the run, or now they're

883
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 3: giving up thirty one points. It's all on that defense,

884
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 3: and you kind of lose sight of the fact that, like, well,

885
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 3: hold on a second, like when they were dominant, like

886
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 3: they have been in the past. You know what makes

887
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 3: them dominant, and it's the fact that they know that

888
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 3: their counterpart on the other side of the ball with

889
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: all of the weapons that they have in Kittle and

890
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 3: Ayuk and Debo and Christian you know, go down the

891
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 3: list of guys. They know that they get a lead,

892
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 3: and guess what, we stop the run early in the

893
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 3: game and teams they have to abandon it. And now

894
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 3: we get to pin our ears back and the highest

895
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 3: paid player in football can get after the quarterback like

896
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 3: he has in years. Pass. So again, the forty nine

897
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 3: Ers will go into the bye week this week, they'll

898
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 3: they'll evaluate everything. Certainly, they'll look at the good through

899
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 3: the first five weeks, they'll examine the bad through the

900
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 3: last three weeks. And you know, I'm already excited for

901
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 3: two weeks from today to watch that game in Jacksonville

902
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 3: against the Jaguars to see, you know, okay, what forty

903
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 3: nine ers team are we gonna get? Are we going

904
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 3: to see a response to a little bit of adversity here?

905
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 3: You know, right now it's funny you look at the

906
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: playoff picture and you know, certainly it's way too early

907
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 3: in the season. But that's I told you last week.

908
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 3: That's my favorite part about being in the media. Now

909
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 3: I get to do stuff like that, and I've never

910
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 3: done it in the past, but you know, I remember

911
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 3: talking to you the night that the forty nine Ers

912
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 3: had that dominant performance against the Dallas Cowboys, and you know,

913
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 3: I remember saying like, if you're Dak Prescott, you certainly hope,

914
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 3: like if I have a game where, you know, we

915
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: get our butts kicked, it's tonight and not in January.

916
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 3: And here we are looking at a playoff picture three

917
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 3: weeks later, and Dallas is the five San Francis Vix.

918
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 3: Dallas beat a Rams team. They're up thirty to three

919
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 3: or something. At some point today Dak throws four touchdown passes.

920
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 3: It's like, hmm, interesting how things have changed in the

921
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 3: last three weeks. But that's the nature of the NFL.

922
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 3: That's just the way it goes.

923
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,959
Speaker 4: No doubt about it. Absolutely.

924
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: So what's interesting is one of the things you're you're

925
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 2: insinuating there is that no Deebo Samuel, no Trent Williams.

926
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 2: Now suddenly this forty nine er offense is not operating

927
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 2: as well. That may sound easy, but it also lends

928
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 2: to one of those rock pretty narratives that we've all

929
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 2: been battling out all year, which is is he's simply

930
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 2: a product of his surroundings. So we reboot that conversation.

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945
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Speaker 2: further into brock purty. Kyle, let me throw this out

946
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: at you, just because we were just discussing it ten

947
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 2: minutes ago. One man's opinion, but Emmanuel Acho FS one

948
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: just threw this out on Twitter. The Niners defense has

949
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: already allowed over three hundred and fifty yards four.

950
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 4: Times this season.

951
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 2: Last season that occurred only twice. Today, the Bengals have

952
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 2: had a season high four one hundred yards. The Niners

953
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 2: players are elite. I need all caps, Steve Wilkes to

954
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: put them in better positions. I agree with that, but

955
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 2: I will freely admit I'm not someone who can sit

956
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: here and describe every single schematic portion of offense and

957
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: defense the way those of you who actually laced them

958
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 2: up can.

959
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 4: It feels that way to me.

960
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: The reason I have that opinion is because it feels

961
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: like they have that opinion. When I hear Nick Bosa

962
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: say I'm not used to this much blitzing. This doesn't

963
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 2: feel I get used to feel, and I see all

964
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 2: of this elite talent.

965
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 4: Suddenly look frozen on the field.

966
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 2: I have no choice but to wonder if something beyond

967
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 2: the obvious is going on.

968
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 4: But do you not agree with that statement?

969
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 3: Not entirely. I feel like throughout my years in the NFL,

970
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 3: when you look at elite level players, it doesn't matter

971
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 3: what the system is, it doesn't matter what the scheme is,

972
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what the plays are that are being called.

973
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 3: They always elevate to the occasion. They make the play

974
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 3: caller better, they make the system better. You know, quite honestly,

975
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 3: if that forty nine ers defense doesn't like something that

976
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 3: they're doing, if they feel like they're blitzing too much.

977
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 3: You know, you have some of the best players in football.

978
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 3: You know, go say something, tell them that you want

979
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 3: to just rush for and let your front that's as

980
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 3: good as anybody and has been for years after the quarterback.

981
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 3: So again, I just feel like if you want Steve

982
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 3: Wilks to put these guys in better positions, they will

983
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 3: be in a better position when they play with the

984
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 3: lead like they did the first five games of the year.

985
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 3: The first five games of the year, the offense scored

986
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 3: over thirty three points a game. They've scored seventeen and

987
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 3: three straight. So it's like, you know it, certainly, it's

988
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 3: the easy thing to point to. It's the only thing

989
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 3: that's different really from last year. It's you know, hey,

990
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 3: we can look at statistics and yards and all that

991
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 3: kind of stuff, but you know, this isn't the defense

992
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 3: we mentioned. Extremely high paid guys, extremely talented guys. You know,

993
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 3: they're they're too good to find themselves out of a position,

994
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 3: out of position because of scheme. You know, I've never

995
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 3: been around an elite player who has allowed a coach

996
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 3: to bring their level a play down. Not at this level.

997
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, I mean it sounds pretty fair, to be

998
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: honest with you. Now, the other thing you said about

999
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: ten minutes ago was about getting the lead and how

1000
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: this offense is now moving at a lesser pace, and

1001
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: largely because there's no left tackle in Trent Williams that

1002
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 2: allows all of those runs around the left end from

1003
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, which are not chunking nearly as much as

1004
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 2: they were, and there's no Deebo Samuel somewhat of a

1005
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: security blanket around the line of scrimmage and over the

1006
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: middle as a wide receiver. Now, it's not a hot

1007
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 2: take to say, oh, the offense is missing some of

1008
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 2: its best players, therefore it operates lesser. But it is

1009
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 2: particularly interesting with the forty nine ers because of a

1010
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 2: portion of the brock Purty conversation. Some would call him

1011
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: a system quarterback, Others would call him a product of

1012
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 2: his surroundings. I actually think there's an intricate difference there.

1013
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 2: A system quarterback tells me that that's just Kyle's Shanahan's scheme,

1014
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 2: and if you can scheme anyone open, then missing a

1015
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: Deebo Samuel shouldn't matter. The product of the surroundings thing

1016
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 2: is what I find interesting when people will say you

1017
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 2: got Kittle, you got McCaffrey, you got Ayyuk, you got Debo,

1018
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 2: you got Trent Williams, and it is seen as a

1019
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 2: slight to Brock Party. I believe that to be a

1020
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 2: slight to a certain degree.

1021
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 4: But to hear you.

1022
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: Say it, it sounds like, uh, that is your belief

1023
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 2: or you tell me are you are you suggesting that

1024
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 2: Brock is a quote unquote product of his surroundings.

1025
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 3: Uh. I believe that Brock Party is still a really

1026
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 3: good quarterback. But I do believe that when you're a

1027
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 3: young player in this league and you go into the situation,

1028
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 3: both the scheme and the surroundings that he was entered

1029
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: into last year when he became the starting quarterback, has

1030
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,439
Speaker 3: allowed him to develop a confidence that I think has

1031
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 3: made him a better quarterback than when he was the

1032
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 3: last draft pick of the NFL Draft last year. You know,

1033
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 3: when when I watched Brock Purty on tape, you know

1034
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 3: certainly the quarterback that he was at Iowa State that

1035
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 3: led him to be the last draft pick in the draft.

1036
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 3: There thirty two teams didn't miss him six and a

1037
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 3: half almost seven rounds of the draft because they didn't

1038
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 3: see this quarterback who's going out there right now and

1039
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 3: playing at the level that he's played to, you know,

1040
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 3: up until recently. Even you know, we talked about the

1041
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 3: the the Browns game, and you know, Deebo gets hurt,

1042
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 3: Christian gets hurt, Trent gets hurt. You know, the game

1043
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 3: is ugly, back and forth, and ultimately they're a forty

1044
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 3: one yard field goal away from a game winning drive

1045
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 3: by Brockberty. And he did all of that on his own.

1046
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 3: So I, in my opinion, I think he is a

1047
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 3: much improved quarterback. And it's is it because of the system, certainly?

1048
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 3: Is it because of the players around him? Absolutely? There

1049
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 3: are very few guys in this league. And I'm sure

1050
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 3: we'll get to one of them here in a second

1051
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 3: with Kansas City and Patrick Mahomes and the guys around him.

1052
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 3: But there are very few guys. And you know, I

1053
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 3: watched it during my ten years in the NFC North

1054
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 3: with Aaron Rodgers across the border there, it didn't matter

1055
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 3: who the receivers were. Like when I got to Minnesota

1056
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 3: in twenty eleven, they had James Jones and Donald Driver

1057
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 3: and Greg Jennings and Jordie Nelson and Jeremichael Finley and

1058
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 3: they had just drafted Randall Cobb and it was like

1059
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 3: loaded loaded, loaded, loaded loaded, like just receivers everywhere, and

1060
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 3: then it was like, Okay, Donald's gone, Jeremichael's gone, James

1061
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 3: is gone, Greg is gone, now Jeordie's gone. And it

1062
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 3: never mattered because all of a sudden, it's like, oh, well,

1063
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 3: now here's this DeVante Adams guy who was taken in

1064
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 3: the second round. And nobody really knew who Davante was,

1065
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 3: and you know what the success he had had it

1066
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 3: that he had at Fresno, and all of a sudden,

1067
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 3: he becomes one of the best wide receivers in football,

1068
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 3: and it's like they're those guys are few and far between.

1069
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 3: So you look at the other good quarterbacks in the

1070
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 3: NFL and who are they Guys that use the players

1071
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 3: that are around them and make themselves better because of it.

1072
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 3: And I think that's what Brock has done. And he

1073
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 3: has developed a confidence up until recently we turned the

1074
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 3: football over, which we talked about. But when you watch him,

1075
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 3: you know, I watch him on primetime in that that

1076
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 3: Dallas game just like you did, and some of those

1077
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 3: throws that he was making, you know throughout that game,

1078
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Speaker 3: and a lot of the games that I've seen him

1079
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 3: play are high, high level of difficulties throws, He processes

1080
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 3: information quickly, he gets the ball out of his hand,

1081
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 3: you know, and he'll go back and you know, he'll

1082
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 3: spend a lot of time in the bye week looking

1083
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 3: at you know, where what are what's causing me to

1084
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 3: turn the football over? Where is it coming from? How

1085
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 3: do I fix it? And ultimately we talk about the

1086
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 3: run game and losing the best left tackle in football

1087
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 3: and Trent Williams, and I'm a firm believer in the

1088
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 3: fact that Deebo Samuel being out hurts the Niners run

1089
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 3: game more than the best left tackle in football not

1090
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 3: being out there to block in the run game. And

1091
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 3: it's it's crazy to think about, but like watching the

1092
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 3: Browns game when Deebo was out there, there's just so

1093
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 3: much just and Kyle does such a good job, whether

1094
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 3: it's prestat motion shifts, you know, guys crossing the formation

1095
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 3: on these Jets sweeps and you know, ghost motions through

1096
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 3: the backfield, and they're just when you're a linebacker and

1097
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 3: you're standing there looking at a Kyle Shanahan offense with

1098
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 3: Ayuk and Deebo and Christian? Where do you look like

1099
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 3: you can't focus your eyes on one thing because there's

1100
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 3: guys going everywhere, and that at any moment in time,

1101
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 3: the ball can be snapped and it can be an

1102
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 3: explosive play. So when you take Deebo off the field

1103
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 3: when he got hurt in the Cleveland game, all of

1104
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 3: a sudden, you know Trent Williams was still out there.

1105
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 3: He hadn't got banged up yet, but there wasn't as

1106
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 3: much air because now you have these backers just standing

1107
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 3: there at four or five yards like, all right, hand

1108
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 3: the ball to Christian. Nothing else scares me anymore. Like

1109
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 3: I can focus on this guy right here in the

1110
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 3: backfield and I'm not worried of you getting the ball

1111
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 3: on the perimeter, Debo, And now I gotta go chase

1112
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 3: that guy. So I think getting Deebo back will be

1113
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 3: huge for not only this offense, but also for the

1114
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 3: Niners run game.

1115
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 2: There is one thing that is a thread through most,

1116
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 2: if not all, of brock Perty's interceptions that I want

1117
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 2: to get to coming up next. Also, the Mahomes comment

1118
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 2: is interesting. We do need to talk about the Chiefs,

1119
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 2: and we will, but Let's get Kevin wired in here

1120
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 2: first with the latest on what's going on out at

1121
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Speaker 2: about Hey Kevin.

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01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 5: Hey, Yeah, it's NFL Sunday Night football going on right now.

1123
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 5: They got about two minutes ago in the second quarter,

1124
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 5: just got back from the two minute warning, and the

1125
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 5: Bears have just scored their first touchdown of the day

1126
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 5: of the day to make it seventeen to six. It

1127
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 5: could be seventeen to seven, pending at the extra point

1128
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 5: as the Bears running it in there. Seventeen to six

1129
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 5: is the score about minon forty seven to go before halftime.

1130
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 5: Early Earth scores from the late window, we had the

1131
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 5: Ravens top the Cardinals thirty one to twenty four. Gus

1132
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 5: Edwards three rushing touchdowns for Baltimore. They're now six and

1133
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 5: two on the season. The Bengals, after having a slow

1134
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 5: start Joe Burrow having issues with his calf to begin

1135
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 5: the season, looked like it might be a lost season

1136
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 5: for Cincinnati, but they've come warring right back, and Joe

1137
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 5: Burrow seems to have completely forgotten about his calf injury.

1138
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,479
Speaker 2: First and ten from the seventeen, Burrow fakes a pass

1139
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 2: to the right, throws toward.

1140
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 4: The Nizone Chase with it over the shoulder.

1141
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 2: Catch touchdown Bengals. Then he does a backflip in the

1142
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 2: back of the end zone instead of the gritty he

1143
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 2: made like an Olympic gymnast.

1144
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 5: Bengals Radio Network with the call won a three touchdown

1145
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 5: passes thrown by Joe Burrow as the Bengals beat the

1146
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 5: forty nine Ers thirty one to seventeen. They're now above

1147
01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 5: five hundred the first time this season. At four and three,

1148
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 5: the episode of the day in the AFC West, Broncos

1149
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 5: take down the Chiefs twenty four to nine at Mile

1150
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 5: highs Stadium as Patrick Mahomes being forced to throw two

1151
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 5: interceptions by that Broncos defense in Kansas City, just nine

1152
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 5: points total on the day, Broncos get their third win

1153
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 5: of the season. Chiefs fall to six and two. Seahawks

1154
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 5: over the Browns twenty four to twenty as Gino Smith

1155
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,919
Speaker 5: had a couple of touchdown tosses early scores. Panthers get

1156
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 5: their first win of the season fifteen thirteen over the

1157
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 5: Houston at Texans Eddie Panerro with the walk off field

1158
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 5: goal Vikings over the Packers twenty four to ten. Kirk

1159
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 5: Cousins had to leave the game, and the fear is

1160
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 5: that he has a achilles injury, a torn achilles that

1161
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 5: very well could knock him out for the rest of

1162
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 5: the season, although they're still waiting to confirm with in

1163
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 5: MRI Dolphins, Cruz pass the Patriots thirty one seventeen. Titans

1164
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 5: over the Falcons twenty eight to twenty three. Will Levis

1165
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 5: in his NFL debut through four touchdown passes, Saints out

1166
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 5: scored the Cold thirty eight twenty seven Jaguars over the

1167
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 5: Steelers twenty ten. Eagles beat the Commanders thirty eight to

1168
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 5: thirty one, and in probably the ugliest game of the day,

1169
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 5: the Jets, after a missed field goal by Graham Ganot,

1170
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 5: they were down by three, march down the field and

1171
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 5: were just a second to go. Zach Wilson able to

1172
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 5: spike the ball in field goal rains. The Jets convert

1173
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 5: on that field goal to force overtime, and they eventually

1174
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 5: do win it thirteen to ten. And the Cowboys demolished

1175
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 5: the Rams forty three to twenty, but they led thirty

1176
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 5: three to three at one point, so the scorer wasn't

1177
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,479
Speaker 5: even that close. Dak Prescott four touchdowns, Cowboys defense getting

1178
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 5: a pick six of Matt Stafford and their special teams

1179
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 5: getting a punt block.

1180
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 4: Back to you guys, all right, Kevin, thank you very much.

1181
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 2: We're live at the tyrack dot Com studios alongside the

1182
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 2: great Kyle Rudolph Mark Willard Kyle before we move on

1183
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 2: to Patrick and the Chiefs. Real quick on Purty five

1184
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 2: interceptions the last three games after not throwing any in

1185
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 2: the first five games of the year. The game the

1186
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 2: game in Cleveland, the ball is wet and there was

1187
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 2: just you know, he missed a spot and I think

1188
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 2: it was in the first half. Since then, these four

1189
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 2: interceptions in two games the last two weeks have all

1190
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 2: come late in the second half.

1191
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 4: They have all come while trailing.

1192
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 2: And while that is not an excuse because some will say, oh,

1193
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 2: look he's you know, you're in a little bit of

1194
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 2: a desperate spot. You got to take some chances. I

1195
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 2: wouldn't call it that at all. What is interesting to me,

1196
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 2: and one of them the one down by the goal

1197
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 2: line today. If you saw the game, there was a

1198
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 2: penalty ineligible downfield. They've admitted now it was supposed to

1199
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 2: be a handoff. The play call got all messed up,

1200
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 2: and so it was just a rookie mistake that he

1201
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 2: even went and threw that ball. But what I see

1202
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 2: with Brock Perdy and the question that I still have

1203
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 2: because if you watch the game, you also saw some

1204
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 2: absolutely ridiculous elite plays. Plays with his legs buying time,

1205
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 2: throwing across his body downfield. There are elite throws and

1206
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 2: then there are what look like young player mistakes late

1207
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 2: in the game. And because they're late in the game

1208
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 2: and when they're trailing, the question I have about Brock

1209
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 2: is what happens when the other team knows you're gonna

1210
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 2: throw it? That's what I want to see. And this

1211
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 2: is a Shanahan question too. He's oh and thirty six

1212
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 2: when his teams enter the fourth quarter trailing by eight

1213
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 2: or more oh and thirty six. So the ingenuity of

1214
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 2: his play calling, the execution of it from Brock Purdy

1215
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 2: when you're down in the fourth quarter and the other

1216
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 2: team knows that you're not gonna be pounding the rock,

1217
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 2: that's what I would love to see because the best

1218
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,879
Speaker 2: can do that, and that's where he struggled.

1219
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think it's more interesting to dive

1220
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 3: into the oh to thirty eight when trailing by eight

1221
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:13,839
Speaker 3: points are more statistic because that has in my opinion,

1222
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 3: that's something that has followed that system everywhere along the

1223
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 3: way from you know, Kyle's dad, I played under Gary Kubiak.

1224
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 3: That system is a system that you know, I just

1225
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 3: talked about all of the things that distracted defense that

1226
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 3: they have going on pre snap yep, the wide zone,

1227
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 3: you know, the stretch run action, the nakeds, the keepers,

1228
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 3: all of that stuff that goes out the window when

1229
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 3: you turn into a drop back pass team down more

1230
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 3: than one score. You know, trust me, I've been in

1231
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 3: that system in that situation. And when we get down

1232
01:10:56,120 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 3: double digit scores and we the other team knows that

1233
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 3: we have to pass. I remember we played the Niners

1234
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 3: actually in the divisional round. It was January of twenty twenty,

1235
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 3: but it was the nineteen season, and you know, like

1236
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 3: Nick Bosa and d Ford and Eric Armstead and it

1237
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,839
Speaker 3: was like first round pick, first round pick, high paid rusher,

1238
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 3: first round pick. They were arguing over like no, I'm

1239
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 3: not going out. You go out, like no, it's my turn,

1240
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 3: because they knew we had to throw the football. In

1241
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 3: that system, the drop back pass game is not the

1242
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 3: strength of the system. The strength of the system is

1243
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 3: everything looks the same. You rely on the run game

1244
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 3: to make the shots happen. In the pass game, guys

1245
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 3: are all a sudden running wide open because you know,

1246
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 3: linebackers are focused on the run game, or safeties get

1247
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 3: nosy and you hit them over the top with these

1248
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 3: big plays. So that worries me a lot more than

1249
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 3: Rock Purdy trailing at the of the game and needing

1250
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 3: to go down the field and get points because we've

1251
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 3: seen him do that. Cleveland has one of the best

1252
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 3: defenses in football. And I'll go back to that, that

1253
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 3: last drive in Cleveland in awful weather, you know, wet conditions,

1254
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 3: and he goes right down the field and gets his

1255
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 3: team in field goal range for a chance to win

1256
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:25,480
Speaker 3: the game. So you know, I have faith in brocksibility

1257
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 3: to lead that team down the field, even in a

1258
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 3: situation where the other the opposing defense knows it's a pass.

1259
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 3: I do think there is something too, you know, you know,

1260
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 3: not zero to thirty eight for no reason. You know

1261
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 3: there is something to that there.

1262
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is very very interesting, great great stuff there

1263
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 2: with Kyle Rudolph Mark Willard. Coming up next was Tyreek

1264
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 2: Hill right, I mean even just a little bit when

1265
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 2: he left the Chiefs.

1266
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 4: We'll explain what we're.

1267
01:12:56,479 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 2: Talking about coming up next on Fox Sports Radio.

1268
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 4: All right with Kyle Rudolph. I'm Mark Willer. Glad you're

1269
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 4: with us.

1270
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 2: We are live and the tyraq dot com studios. Another reminder,

1271
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Speaker 2: final stretch to get tickets to horse racing's biggest moment

1272
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,400
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1273
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1274
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Speaker 2: Cup dot Com. All right, Kyle, was Tyreek Hill right now?

1276
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 2: I know it sounds like a silly question because the

1277
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 2: Chiefs won the Super Bowl last year, so that seemed

1278
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 2: to automatically make Tyreek Hill wrong. But I remember everybody's

1279
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:45,719
Speaker 2: off season takes when Tyreek went to the Miami Dolphins,

1280
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 2: and he's only one player. He's an example of the

1281
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:54,839
Speaker 2: larger question and issue, if you will. So I'm certainly

1282
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 2: not going to make the point that Patrick Mahomes can't

1283
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 2: function without Tyreek Hill. I'm not here to say something

1284
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 2: stupid like that. But here's what I will say. When

1285
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 2: I watch the Chiefs, and it's not just today. When

1286
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 2: I watch them play football this year, they look like

1287
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 2: Patrick Travis and Prayer like it is completely Their defense

1288
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 2: looks a little bit better this year. But I'm not

1289
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 2: going to be disrespectful and call them talent deficient. I'm

1290
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 2: just gonna say that there is a deficiency on that

1291
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 2: offense when we look at the skill position players that

1292
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 2: have been there in the past, during Patrick Mahomes's recent

1293
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 2: run of Super Bowls, when super Bowl appearance is this

1294
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 2: is not the same and it is causing that offense

1295
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,480
Speaker 2: to really really struggle.

1296
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 3: No, But when I look at this offense and I

1297
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 3: think back to the Super Bowl run last year without

1298
01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill, Certainly, if this offense still had Tyree Kill

1299
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 3: on it, it would be exposed. I mean, he just

1300
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:07,719
Speaker 3: became the first receiver in sixty some years to reach

1301
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 3: the thousand yard mark in eight games. But when you

1302
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 3: look at this Kansas City Chiefs offense, SAMs Tyreek Hill

1303
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 3: like they were last year, and how they became successful,

1304
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 3: what they got to late in the season, the use

1305
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 3: of the talent that they do have on the roster.

1306
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:31,560
Speaker 3: I think about a guy like Jerck McKinnon. Jeric is

1307
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 3: a guy that I played with in Minnesota. He was

1308
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 3: out with you guys in the Bay Area for a

1309
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 3: little while. His stint with the Niners was injury plagued

1310
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 3: with two ACL surgeries, but no one played a bigger

1311
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 3: role in the Chiefs run and ultimately winning a Super

1312
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 3: Bowl last year, then Jeric on that offense as the

1313
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 3: you know, counterpart to Patrick and Travis. You know, you

1314
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 3: look at last year they had Juju Smith Schuster. This year, okay,

1315
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 3: who replaces Juju? And And quite honestly, when I look

1316
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 3: at this receiving corps, you know, to me, the name

1317
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 3: that jumps out, and the guy who's jumped out to

1318
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 3: me watching these guys on tape is Rashie Rice. He's dynamic.

1319
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 3: He's incredibly dynamic. And I think that's a guy that

1320
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 3: we can see. He's a rookie. And as we work

1321
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:32,839
Speaker 3: our way into November December, you know, I think that

1322
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 3: it was almost the same thing last year was early

1323
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 3: in the year, we're having all these conversations about the

1324
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 3: Chiefs offense. How are they going to survive without Tyreek Hill.

1325
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 3: They they don't. They're just not as dynamic. They're not

1326
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 3: as explosive and they figure it out, and I go

1327
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 3: back to when I referenced Patrick before. It's because he

1328
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 3: is one of those few guys that he will make

1329
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 3: Rashie Rice a wide receiver in this league. He will

1330
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 3: get the most out of a Justin Watson, a Marquez Valdez, Scantling.

1331
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 3: They got me Coole Hardman back like, certainly he's not

1332
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 3: just gonna jump over to the Chiefs and be like it, Oh,

1333
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 3: I've never missed a practice, I've never missed a game.

1334
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 4: Like.

1335
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 3: We'll hop right back in. They'll slowly start to work

1336
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 3: his speed back into this offense. I would love to

1337
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 3: see a lot more no pun intended in the use

1338
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 3: of his name there from sky Moore and also Kadarius Tony.

1339
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 3: Kadarius Tony was with him in New York for the

1340
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 3: year that he was in New York before he got

1341
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:42,440
Speaker 3: traded over to the Chiefs last year. Incredibly, incredibly dynamic,

1342
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 3: elusive player, a guy that you can get the ball

1343
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 3: into his hands in space and he's gonna make things happen.

1344
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:54,839
Speaker 3: So I have no worries whatsoever about this Chiefs offense

1345
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 3: and the skill position players around Travis Kelce. I do

1346
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,839
Speaker 3: think there are times where they just rely on Travis

1347
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 3: too much.

1348
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's all fair.

1349
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 2: I just think that what you're talking about, while accurate,

1350
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 2: may take time, and I would predict that it's going

1351
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 2: to hamper them when it comes to the end this year.

1352
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 2: They'll be there, but how far do they go? I

1353
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 2: do like Rashi Rice, I'm with you, that's the guy.

1354
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 2: But go through all those other names you mentioned, and

1355
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 2: there's so many of them. It feels like the Chiefs

1356
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 2: are still searching as evidence by going out on the

1357
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 2: trade market and bringing back a familiar name in me

1358
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,640
Speaker 2: Cole Hardman Valdas Scantling's a veteran. He's never going to

1359
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 2: blow the doors off. Justin Watson will see. But you

1360
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 2: mentioned the two names back to back years. These were

1361
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,840
Speaker 2: acquisitions one through the draft where people thought they could

1362
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 2: really do something. Sky Moore had a beautiful tear drop

1363
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 2: throw from Patrick Mahomes in the end zone today and

1364
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 2: it went right off of his forearms and he missed it.

1365
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 2: We know what can Darius Tony has been through this year,

1366
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 2: the pick six on opening night. He had one target today,

1367
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 2: one catch, four yards. I just I think that what

1368
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 2: you're saying is true, but it's gonna take a little

1369
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 2: bit more time than the Chiefs have this season.

1370
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 3: Well, I mean we thought that last year, and these

1371
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 3: are the same tastic characters that went and won that

1372
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. So you know, I see your point. It's

1373
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 3: just not something that I can worry about with this

1374
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs offense. I feel like this is this

1375
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,719
Speaker 3: offense that will Andy Reid. He does it every year.

1376
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 3: He'll figure it out and this will be a team

1377
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 3: that we're watching in December as they run around in

1378
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 3: circles in their huddle and score thirty five points a game.

1379
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:49,160
Speaker 2: By no stretch, am I suggesting that the Chiefs are

1380
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 2: not going to win the AFC West. However, it is

1381
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 2: fascinating when you watch a defense and I know it

1382
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 2: was cold, but a defense that gave up seventy a

1383
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 2: few weeks ago held the Kansas City chief out of

1384
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 2: the end zone.

1385
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 4: I did not have that on my bingo card.

1386
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 2: All right, we talked a lot about this game already,

1387
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 2: but only on one side did the other side rejoin

1388
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 2: the super Bowl conversation. We'll get to that coming up next. Yeah, man,

1389
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 2: it's not just Breeders Cup week. Down the stretch we

1390
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 2: come on week number eight in the National Football League.

1391
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 2: Narratives changing every single week, and we bring you through

1392
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 2: all of them. The Los Angeles call them please San

1393
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:39,640
Speaker 2: Diego Chargers in action right now, Sunday Night football, and

1394
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 2: they have finally found an opponent they can handle. They

1395
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 2: lead this one twenty four to seven, looking to get

1396
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 2: their third win of the year. We'll see what the

1397
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 2: Tyson Beagent led Chicago Bears have for them in the

1398
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 2: second half. We will keep you up to date, but

1399
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 2: we spent a lot of time Kyle on the San

1400
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine and their problems on both sides of

1401
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 2: the ball. What about the team that beat him today?

1402
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 2: Can we start talking, in your opinion about the Cincinnati

1403
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 2: Bengals the way we thought we were going to talk

1404
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 2: about the Cincinnati Bengals this year.

1405
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 3: I think this is the closest thing that we've seen

1406
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 3: to date in terms of our expectations of the Cincinnati

1407
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 3: Bengals coming into this season. Certainly, I think a huge

1408
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 3: credit goes to Joe Burrow and his health. He looked

1409
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:40,640
Speaker 3: healthier today, running around, scrambling, moving better than we have

1410
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 3: seen him through the first seven games of the season.

1411
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 3: I mentioned Joe Mixon earlier in the show and his

1412
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 3: ability to you know, not only run the football and

1413
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 3: what the run game does for this offense, but also

1414
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 3: catching the ball out of the backfield and the screen game,

1415
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 3: that element of this offense. And you know, I remember

1416
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 3: sitting on this show when the Bengals beat Arizona, and

1417
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 3: I get it, it's Arizona, but it was basically Joe

1418
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 3: Burrow and Jamar Chase and that was it. And it

1419
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 3: was where is this team going to find offense outside

1420
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 3: of just those two guys, And now here we are today.

1421
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 3: T Higgins sixty nine yards, Tyler Boyd forty yards. I

1422
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:32,440
Speaker 3: talked about Joe Mixon and his ability out of the backfield,

1423
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 3: so you know, we're starting to see this complete package.

1424
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 3: And also one thing that oftentimes gets overlooked with this

1425
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 3: Bengals team talks so much about the offense, we forget

1426
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 3: to mention the defense. And this is a defense that's

1427
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 3: really starting to play like a super Bowl caliber defense.

1428
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 3: You know, they get after the passer as good as anyone.

1429
01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:00,600
Speaker 3: You know, Sam Hubbard, Trey Hendricks Hendrickson and you know

1430
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 3: Tray's a guy who you know comes up there, signs

1431
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 3: a big free contract from New Orleans, and you know

1432
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 3: a lot of people really hadn't heard of him. But

1433
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:10,680
Speaker 3: he's a guy that I played against when he was

1434
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 3: in New Orleans and certainly was always a tough assignment,

1435
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 3: you know, for me, a guy that I had a

1436
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 3: block on the edge a lot, and he's just a

1437
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 3: high motor guy that seems to always find his way

1438
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 3: at the quarterback. He had another sack today, So it

1439
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 3: is it's it's a defense that's really playing stout and

1440
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 3: an offense that's starting to find their stride as we

1441
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 3: make our way into November.

1442
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,560
Speaker 4: You know what I was not expecting.

1443
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 2: You could look at Burrow's numbers, two hundred and eighty

1444
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 2: three yards through the year, three touchdowns, no interceptions. We

1445
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 2: mentioned that he only had four incomplete passes. It was

1446
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 2: sacked a couple of times, but he was kept pretty

1447
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 2: clean in this football game, and part of it.

1448
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:54,759
Speaker 4: Is a credit to him. Six carries for forty three yards.

1449
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 2: I've never thought of Burrow as a statue, but I

1450
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 2: will tell you this, he moved very well today, and

1451
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 2: knowing where he has been physically this year up to

1452
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 2: this point, I do think that it's time to re

1453
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 2: enter Cincinnati into the conversation, talk about them being at

1454
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 2: the top level of the AFC, like we expected them

1455
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 2: to be a top five Super Bowl preseason favorite, and

1456
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 2: it was for that reason. It was for six carries

1457
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 2: forty three yards, bunch of first downs on third downs,

1458
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 2: scrambling from Joe Burrow.

1459
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:34,560
Speaker 4: It told me, Kyle.

1460
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 2: That that leg is all the way back, That calf

1461
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 2: injury is no longer an issue, whether it's physically or

1462
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:46,839
Speaker 2: mentally for that matter. And once you have that, then

1463
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 2: everything else will sort of work and concert around it,

1464
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 2: which I think has been your big message tonight. You know,

1465
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:56,640
Speaker 2: the teams that are struggling, it's because of one or

1466
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 2: two things here or there that have this trickle down

1467
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 2: effect can go the opposite direction. Obviously, and we've known

1468
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 2: all along the Bengals are a good football team. They

1469
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 2: just need to be right at the key positions, and

1470
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 2: I think they finally are.

1471
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 3: There's nothing more demoralizing to a defense than a third down.

1472
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 3: You're covering Jamar Chase and T Higgins and Tyler Boyd

1473
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 3: and Joe Mixon and you got everybody covered. You think

1474
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 3: you're gonna get off the field, and all of a

1475
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 3: sudden Joe Burrow takes off, run and he picks up

1476
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 3: the first down with his legs, and now they get

1477
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 3: a new set of downs and three more shots at

1478
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,600
Speaker 3: exposive plays down the field. And uh, you know, you

1479
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 3: mentioned never really visioning, envisioning Joe as a statue, but

1480
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 3: that's what he was for the first six games, you know,

1481
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 3: first seven weeks of the season. He up until this week,

1482
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 3: he was a statue back there. And you know, almost

1483
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 3: it seemed like every time that his instincts were telling

1484
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:06,600
Speaker 3: him to take off, you would see that hesitancy with

1485
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 3: his calf. You know, Ultimately early in the year, I

1486
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 3: think it was the Pittsburgh game, he even reaggravated a

1487
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 3: little bit trying to scramble and move. And that's his

1488
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 3: nature as a you know, fairly athletic quarterback, a guy

1489
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 3: who can use his legs like he did today, That's

1490
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 3: what he wanted to do. That's what he was like

1491
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 3: so hesitant to do through those first six games. And

1492
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 3: you know, to your point, I think we did see

1493
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 3: today a completely healthy Joe Burrow for the first time.

1494
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 3: And you know what, the ability to move around and

1495
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 3: run the football from the quarterback position allowed him to

1496
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 3: do in the past game, and it again, it just

1497
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 3: trickled down throughout that entire offense.

1498
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly where they stand in the pecking

1499
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 2: order which we can go through in the AFC, but

1500
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 2: here's one thing that I can firmly state, and I

1501
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 2: don't even think it's debatable. We are definitely looking at

1502
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 2: the best last place team in the NFL. There there,

1503
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 2: they're four and three. Everybody has a winning record in

1504
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 2: the AFC North. I think top to bottom it's it's

1505
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 2: probably the best division in football, at least right now.

1506
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 2: I know that the Steelers and Browns will make people

1507
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 2: say a little bit of a yeah, But in terms

1508
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 2: of their four and three record, there technically have tie

1509
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 2: breakers over the Bengals right now. So it's technically a

1510
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 2: last place team that we're that we're looking at. But

1511
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 2: I just know that provided that they don't have any

1512
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 2: any more interruptions, uh, they find their way into the

1513
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 2: postseason one way or another. There there is one quarterback

1514
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 2: and one quarterback only in the NFL where where I

1515
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 2: would say I trust that guy in the big moment

1516
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 2: against the big time opponent, there's only one man who's

1517
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 2: gone into in the playoffs mahomes Den and and and

1518
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 2: Allen's Den and come out of both of them with

1519
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:04,520
Speaker 2: with resounding victories.

1520
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 4: And that's Joe Burrow.

1521
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:09,600
Speaker 2: And he's been forgotten this year because of what he

1522
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 2: was going through physically.

1523
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 3: No doubt about it. And I think when you look

1524
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 3: at the AFC standings, and you know, you look at

1525
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 3: the teams that are ahead of them right now, you know,

1526
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 3: they're tied with the Jets, tied with the Browns, tied

1527
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 3: with the Steelers, all that four and three. You know,

1528
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 3: we're talking about in their division alone, so teams that

1529
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:34,639
Speaker 3: they will play again during the course of the year.

1530
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 3: You know, we saw the Cleveland Browns, a team that

1531
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 3: has a really talented roster, a great defense, but do

1532
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 3: we believe PJ. Walker can kind of keep this thing

1533
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 3: afloat longer than a ascending Joe Burrow? And then you know,

1534
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 3: same thing in Pittsburgh. You know, Kenny Pickett goes down today,

1535
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 3: Mitch Truisky comes in. You know, it's like if you're

1536
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 3: looking at a stock market ticker, it's like, certainly the

1537
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 3: Bengals is going up and the other two teams in

1538
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 3: the AFC North are probably trending the other way with

1539
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 3: major injuries at the quarterback position.

1540
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree completely.

1541
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look up and down the AFC,

1542
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 2: there does feel like there's a lot of parody in

1543
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 2: that there's no freebies. Like I mean, the last place

1544
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 2: teams in the AFC right now are the Bengals, the Colts,

1545
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 2: they'll give you a crazy game, The Chargers we're watching

1546
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 2: right now, incredibly talented quarterback. And then the Patriots, which

1547
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 2: I get the Mac Jones situation and the struggles that

1548
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 2: they've had, but you really don't see a lot of

1549
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 2: free victories.

1550
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 4: In the AFC at all.

1551
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 2: But the list of teams where you really feel like, okay,

1552
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 2: that's a mover and a shaker and a team that

1553
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 2: I'm pretty confident is going to have January action. It's

1554
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, It's the jag I think the Bills still

1555
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 2: have enough. I know the Dolphins aren't great on defense,

1556
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:06,640
Speaker 2: but I think that they're gonna be a part of this.

1557
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 2: And then the Ravens as well, and and Cincinnati and

1558
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 2: and and that's six teams and somebody else will will

1559
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 2: join the party, and maybe there will be a party

1560
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 2: crasher as well. But it felt for a while like

1561
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:21,759
Speaker 2: like the Bengals may not be a part of that group.

1562
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 2: That's that's that's the group. And and for me, the

1563
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 2: Bengals are absolutely still in it.

1564
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 3: You know. And one thing that's interesting to me about

1565
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals, and you know, Baltimore is a really

1566
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 3: really good football team. That defense. You know, we talk

1567
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 3: so much about Lamar Jackson and the new offense, and

1568
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 3: you know, they're not gonna be so heavy run the football.

1569
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 3: They're gonna use these receivers that they have. They're gonna

1570
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 3: let Lamar make decisions in the pocket and throw the football.

1571
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 3: And uh, they're playing incredible football. Off to a six

1572
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 3: and two start. And it's like the thing about the

1573
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 3: Cincinna Bengals as you look at the last two years

1574
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 3: and what they've done once they got into the playoffs.

1575
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 3: The year they went to the Super Bowl, they go

1576
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 3: knock off the one seed at Tennessee. Then they beat

1577
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:16,759
Speaker 3: Kansas City in Kansas City to go to the Super Bowl.

1578
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 3: Last year they knock off the Bills in Buffalo to

1579
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 3: go toe to toe with Kansas City in Kansas City.

1580
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 3: So you mentioned it. They've gone in the Lions then

1581
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 3: in the playoffs year after year so they're not afraid

1582
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:34,759
Speaker 3: of that. For the Bengals, it's all about getting everyone healthy,

1583
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 3: starting to ascend toward the playoffs and if they get

1584
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 3: in as a six seed wild card team because Baltimore

1585
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 3: wins the AFC North, I don't think that bothers the

1586
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals one bit. They know that they can go anywhere. Yeah,

1587
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 3: you know, whoever the five seed, whoever the four seed is,

1588
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 3: and the Bengals are the five seed, that's not going

1589
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 3: to be good news for the team that has to

1590
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 3: host them the round of the playoffs.

1591
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Speaker 4: Kyle.

1607
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 2: We talked about him earlier, but kind of in a

1608
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:09,599
Speaker 2: different light talking about the Chiefs offense. Oh, by the way,

1609
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 2: a little bit of a milestone there for Tyreek Hill.

1610
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 2: Today we are eight games in and Tyreek is already

1611
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 2: over one thousand yards receiving. It's funny. Part of it

1612
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 2: is fantasy football. Justin Jefferson was everybody's clear number one,

1613
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 2: and for the most part, I think people were interested

1614
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 2: in the return of Cooper Cup even more than Tyreek Hill.

1615
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 2: And now even as we get into the season, and

1616
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase was part of this conversation as well, the

1617
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 2: who's the best receiver in football? Well, I know he's

1618
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 2: a part of an incredibly high flying offense and he

1619
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 2: always has been.

1620
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:58,679
Speaker 4: He was when he was with the Chiefs as well.

1621
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 2: But maybe part of the re that those are high

1622
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 2: flying offenses is because that's the.

1623
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 4: Jersey that he wears.

1624
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:10,639
Speaker 2: I don't hear people bring Tyreek Hill's name up when

1625
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 2: they talk about the best or most complete receivers in football.

1626
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 2: He's not just a deep guy. And for some reason,

1627
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 2: even though everybody knows exactly what he's going to be

1628
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 2: doing and where he's gonna be, there's absolutely no keeping

1629
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 2: up with him. Where do you put Tyreek Hill with

1630
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,879
Speaker 2: regard to the game's best at the position?

1631
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I've gone on record and saying

1632
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 3: that I believe Justin Jefferson is the best receiver in football.

1633
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 3: But I say that with regard to the fact what

1634
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:53,280
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill does week in and week out, year in

1635
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:57,639
Speaker 3: and year out, Like, Okay, he's a one trick pony.

1636
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 3: He can run fast. Still can't stop him. You know,

1637
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 3: I watch him a play today and to a you know,

1638
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 3: burries a hard play action fake to the right side,

1639
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 3: and you know he's left handed, so then it's easy

1640
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 3: for him. He you know, he reaches out with his

1641
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:17,639
Speaker 3: left hand on the fake and then he just turned

1642
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:19,679
Speaker 3: you know, he turns us back to the defense, which

1643
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 3: you're really never supposed to do as a quarterback. You

1644
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:25,880
Speaker 3: never want to turn your back to the defense. And

1645
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 3: when all you're doing is burying the run fake and

1646
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 3: then turning around and launching a go ball for a touchdown.

1647
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 3: You could turn your back as long as you want,

1648
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 3: because you know exactly when you turn around where you're

1649
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:41,719
Speaker 3: launching that football. And you know, he just he does

1650
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 3: things at the highest level in the NFL, with the

1651
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:50,680
Speaker 3: best players on the planet on the opposing side of

1652
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 3: the ball from him, that makes it look like he's

1653
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 3: playing high school football at times. You know, you're not

1654
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 3: supposed to be able to run by guys the way

1655
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 3: that he does. You're not supposed to make coverage feel

1656
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:09,200
Speaker 3: uncomfortable the way he does. You know, it's like, oh,

1657
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 3: he can run straight ahead fast. He's a one trick pony.

1658
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 3: It's all gobos. No, it's not. And you know he

1659
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 3: runs crossing routes and overs, and you know when when

1660
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 3: he runs a stop or a hinge or something where

1661
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 3: he gets a dB running and then puts his foot

1662
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 3: in the ground, that DB's gonna stay and get out

1663
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:30,720
Speaker 3: of his pedal immediately because he's scared to death that

1664
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 3: Tyreek can run by him. So you know what he

1665
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 3: does is truly amazing, But you have to remember through

1666
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 3: the first I don't know if it was four or

1667
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:44,599
Speaker 3: five weeks before Justin got hurt. Justin was on pace

1668
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:47,559
Speaker 3: for They were both going over twenty one hundred yards

1669
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 3: receiving this year. So it's it's a fun debate to have.

1670
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 3: You know, I will say, what Tyreek does and watching

1671
01:36:57,080 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 3: it on tape is incredible because I've seen really, really

1672
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:05,559
Speaker 3: good complete wide receivers Justin Cooper cup what Cooper did

1673
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:09,400
Speaker 3: when he won the Triple Crown. But that's that's like

1674
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 3: route running and scheme and feel. This is Tyreek just

1675
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 3: being physically better than everyone else and like I'm gonna

1676
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 3: run by you and I'm going to scare you to

1677
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:21,599
Speaker 3: death and then you know, I'm gonna catch a screen

1678
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 3: and make you look silly. It's just it's incredible to watch.

1679
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really is.

1680
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 2: And so you know that twenty one one hundred yard

1681
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,519
Speaker 2: pace that you just mentioned, Yeah, he's on pace for

1682
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:34,679
Speaker 2: twenty one fifty five.

1683
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 4: Right now, you do have the extra game.

1684
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:40,639
Speaker 2: There's never been a two thousand yard receiver in league history.

1685
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 2: And I never want to jinx anything because there's injury,

1686
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 2: and he does. He had a hip injury this week,

1687
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 2: and there have been some muscular stuff around the hamstrings,

1688
01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 2: and whatnot with him in the past. But quite frankly, Kyle,

1689
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 2: that feels like the only thing that that could potentially

1690
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,520
Speaker 2: get in the way of of him setting the records.

1691
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 3: No question about it. And you know, if you're the

1692
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 3: Dolphins training staff, just get the horse to the race

1693
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:16,800
Speaker 3: if his hip's bothering him. Okay, Tyreek, you do whatever

1694
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 3: you want to do today. We'll see you on Sunday,

1695
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 3: you know. And that's the way it goes. As the

1696
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 3: season goes on and you start to get bumps and bruises,

1697
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:29,200
Speaker 3: you know, what do you need? You want to run

1698
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:31,680
Speaker 3: routes on air today and that's it. Okay, perfect, you

1699
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:33,880
Speaker 3: run routes on air today and then you can go

1700
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:35,840
Speaker 3: inside and get all the treatment you want. You know,

1701
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:38,840
Speaker 3: I guess this is a guy that has familiarity with

1702
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 3: the quarterback. He understands the system. You know, We're not

1703
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 3: talking about somebody who needs to be out there grinding

1704
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:50,000
Speaker 3: and practice Wednesday, Thursday, Friday to understand what he has

1705
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 3: to do on Sunday to go out and be successful.

1706
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 3: So you know, I know that's how Miami will handle things.

1707
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,639
Speaker 3: They'll do, you know, exactly like they have the last

1708
01:38:57,640 --> 01:38:59,640
Speaker 3: couple of times he's been banged up and on the

1709
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 3: engine report. You know, he may be on the injury

1710
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 3: report because he's not practicing full that doesn't mean you're

1711
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 3: not going to get full speed ahead on Sunday. And

1712
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 3: that's what we've seen week in and week out so far.

1713
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 2: I'm with you, though, I will say, even in bringing

1714
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 2: up this conversation, if you did ask me to draft

1715
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:19,639
Speaker 2: any receiver in the NFL right now, I'm still going JJ.

1716
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 2: I'm still going Justin Jefferson. I think a little bit

1717
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:29,679
Speaker 2: more complete, a little bit younger, has the size and whatnot.

1718
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 2: Like I just think he's such a prototype. And it

1719
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:37,519
Speaker 2: circles us back to the conversation we were having earlier

1720
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 2: about Justin Jefferson and the predicament, if you want to

1721
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 2: call it that, that he's now in with the kirk

1722
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 2: Cousins injury if you missed it earlier today, and I

1723
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 2: know I'm jumping in and this is maybe a todd

1724
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 2: bit irresponsible, but there have been enough doctors that have

1725
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:58,839
Speaker 2: watched this, and enough things that have been admitted behind

1726
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 2: closed doors in the Vikings locker room tonight that I'm

1727
01:40:03,439 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 2: pretty confident that kirk Cousins popped his achilles. I know

1728
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 2: you feel that as well, And so if you're not

1729
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 2: going to see Kirk Cousins for the rest of the year,

1730
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 2: and with Justin Jefferson out, with his own injury and

1731
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 2: a contractual situation looming, it really sets up a hell

1732
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 2: of a situation. I know you and I both put

1733
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:28,760
Speaker 2: it out there what we would do, which is, I'm

1734
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 2: not going back out on that field and putting up

1735
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 2: bad numbers with a young backup quarterback and risking further

1736
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:39,320
Speaker 2: injury without that contract already in place.

1737
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 4: And I know you feel the same way, But what

1738
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:46,400
Speaker 4: do you think he is going to do? Well?

1739
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 3: And knowing Justin as well as I know, and watching

1740
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:54,760
Speaker 3: the way that he handled the entire offseason when negotiating

1741
01:40:54,760 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 3: a new contract and you know, making it very well

1742
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 3: known that he wanted it new contract. The guy didn't

1743
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 3: miss a practice, didn't miss you know, team periods or reps.

1744
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:12,760
Speaker 3: He went out there every single day all preseason, all

1745
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:18,200
Speaker 3: training camp and work the way Justin's worked. And quite honestly,

1746
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 3: if Justin were to come back from this hamstring injury,

1747
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 3: he I think he has one more week on IR

1748
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:27,200
Speaker 3: it would be I think next week is the fourth

1749
01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:32,880
Speaker 3: game he will have missed the whoever's playing quarterback for

1750
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings, your job is simple throw it to

1751
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 3: number eighteen. So I'm not necessarily worried that his numbers

1752
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 3: would diminish because they're gonna that's the only chance you have.

1753
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 3: You have to find ways to get him the football,

1754
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 3: and they would. The biggest issue that I have is

1755
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 3: the risk of injury prior to signing that that guaranteed deal.

1756
01:41:55,400 --> 01:41:59,000
Speaker 3: So it will be very interesting. How you know it's

1757
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 3: the IR thing is weird because you know there is

1758
01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 3: no well, if you're on it, it's a minimum of

1759
01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 3: four weeks. There is no maximum or you know, kind

1760
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 3: of extended IR to where after four weeks he can

1761
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 3: really come back at any point. But you don't know.

1762
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 3: If a guy goes on IR, he could be on

1763
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 3: IR for six weeks, eight weeks, ten weeks. You just

1764
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 3: have to designate that window for return and then boom,

1765
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:27,840
Speaker 3: you can put him on the roster. So it'll be

1766
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 3: interesting as he becomes eligible to come off IR when

1767
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 3: he actually does, if he ever does.

1768
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 4: All eyes are going to be on that, for sure.

1769
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 2: All eyes are always on a player who rips the

1770
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 2: refs after the game. We'll tell you about that in

1771
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 2: just a couple of minutes, But let's get Kevin wired

1772
01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 2: in here with the latest and what's trending out and

1773
01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:53,200
Speaker 2: about Hey Kevin.

1774
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, Sunday Night football. There late in the third quarter

1775
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:59,760
Speaker 5: out in Los Angeles at SOFI Stadium, the Chargers now

1776
01:42:59,800 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 5: with a twenty seven to seven lead, and it's largely

1777
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:04,679
Speaker 5: thanks to Justin Herbert.

1778
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:11,880
Speaker 3: Eleven seconds on the clock, Herbert Keenan's parum parum into

1779
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:17,640
Speaker 3: the episode touchdown Chargers Donald Parham with a second and

1780
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 3: third effort to cash it in.

1781
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:25,519
Speaker 5: That was Matt Muney Smith on KYSR Los Angeles. As

1782
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:28,679
Speaker 5: the Chargers now up by twenty against the Bears, Justin

1783
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:33,320
Speaker 5: Herbert three touchdown passes, including that one to Donald Barrum

1784
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:37,559
Speaker 5: and LA looking to go to three and four on

1785
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 5: the season. In the late afternoon slate of games, the

1786
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 5: episode of the Day in the AFC West, the Broncos

1787
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 5: their defense coming alive today. They hold the Chiefs to

1788
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 5: nine points, picking off Patrick Mahomes twice in a twenty

1789
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 5: four to nine win. The Broncos also holding Kansas City

1790
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:58,040
Speaker 5: scoreless in the second half. The Cardinals fall to the

1791
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 5: Ravens thirty one to twenty four, Baltimore getting three rushing

1792
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:04,680
Speaker 5: touchdowns from Gus Edwards. Bengals beat the forty nine Ers

1793
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 5: thirty one seventeen, Joe Burrow three touchdown passes, and Cincinnati

1794
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 5: now they're above five hundred four and three on the season.

1795
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 5: The Seahawks beat the Browns twenty four to twenty. Gino

1796
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 5: Smith with a couple of touchdown passes. Early slay the

1797
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:21,200
Speaker 5: games had the Panthers get their first win against the

1798
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:25,600
Speaker 5: Texans fifteen to thirteen. The Eagles come from behind and

1799
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:27,760
Speaker 5: beat the Commanders thirty eight thirty one. Jaguars over the

1800
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:31,719
Speaker 5: Steelers twenty to ten. Jets in overtime beat the Giants

1801
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:34,759
Speaker 5: thirteen to ten, Dolphins over the Patriots thirty one seventeen,

1802
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 5: Saints top the colt thirty eight twenty seven Titans in

1803
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 5: Will Levis's debut, he throws four touchdown passes and they

1804
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:45,400
Speaker 5: get by the Falcons twenty eight twenty three. Vikings beat

1805
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:47,760
Speaker 5: the Packers twenty four to ten, but they come came

1806
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:51,680
Speaker 5: at a high cost, as a Kirk Cousins leaving the

1807
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:55,719
Speaker 5: game and it's feared that he has an achilles injury.

1808
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 5: Specifically a tour in Achilles, although they do are do

1809
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 5: need an MRI to confirm that result, but that is

1810
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 5: what the team fears, that he'll have an achilles tear

1811
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 5: and that'll cause him to miss the rest of the season.

1812
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:10,240
Speaker 5: And the Cowboys over the Rams forty three to twenty,

1813
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 5: but Dallas up thirty three to three at one point

1814
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 5: as Dak Press got through for touchdowns.

1815
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, Kevin, great stuff tonight,

1816
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. We always love good drama. Right,

1817
01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:26,040
Speaker 2: It's like TNT. It's their slogan for goodness sake, and

1818
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 2: we got it. After the Jags beat Pittsburgh today, Mark Willard,

1819
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:32,479
Speaker 2: Kyle Rudolph with you. And here's what I want to

1820
01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 2: say about this. I'm gonna read you a quote from

1821
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:36,880
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson, wide receiver who's missed a lot of time

1822
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:40,080
Speaker 2: this year, but he's been back for a few weeks

1823
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 2: now and had a decent game today. But he unloaded

1824
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:49,760
Speaker 2: in the locker room on the officials, which is considered

1825
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 2: a no no obviously by the league, but more so

1826
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:57,760
Speaker 2: what I care about by fans. Nobody really want like

1827
01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 2: even though every fan always hates the refs during their

1828
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:05,559
Speaker 2: favorite team's game is that you're not allowed to use

1829
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:08,839
Speaker 2: it as an excuse after the game. It just doesn't

1830
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:12,720
Speaker 2: come off that great. So I understand that side of it.

1831
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 2: But here's what I want to throw at you. Since

1832
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:17,599
Speaker 2: you and I talked about this a couple of weeks ago.

1833
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 2: Here's the quote quote. Reefs were just killing us the

1834
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:26,719
Speaker 2: whole game, the same refs we had a training camp.

1835
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 2: I didn't like the refs today. At the end of

1836
01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:32,880
Speaker 2: the day, we can't keep complaining about the refs, like

1837
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:36,599
Speaker 2: coach Tomlin says, we can't worry about the refs whatever.

1838
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:40,320
Speaker 2: But everybody's different. I didn't like the refs today. They

1839
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 2: must have got paid good today or something. But they

1840
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:48,080
Speaker 2: blew that field goal that hurt us coming into the half.

1841
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:50,479
Speaker 4: We needed that, all right.

1842
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:55,799
Speaker 2: Here's my wish for this quote, even though it'll never happen.

1843
01:46:56,600 --> 01:47:00,519
Speaker 2: My wish for this quote is that Deontay Johnson didn't

1844
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:05,400
Speaker 2: get fined. It doesn't matter what the court of public

1845
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 2: opinion thinks. Let the court of public opinion take care

1846
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 2: of that. I just wish leagues weren't so terrified of

1847
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:16,840
Speaker 2: this kind of speech. He didn't get personal, he didn't

1848
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:20,680
Speaker 2: name names, and he didn't get lewd or anything like that.

1849
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:24,840
Speaker 4: He just was mad and he said it. What's wrong

1850
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:28,120
Speaker 4: with that? Why can't we say that in a locker room? Kyle?

1851
01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, and you mentioned it. We've talked about

1852
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:36,280
Speaker 3: this with coaches following games when you know it's clearly

1853
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:40,120
Speaker 3: blown calls, blown reviews. You know, they missed the call

1854
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 3: in the field, then we see it on the replay

1855
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:47,840
Speaker 3: and they miss it again, and you know, I get it.

1856
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:54,880
Speaker 3: I understand, especially in the public opinion of fans. It

1857
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 3: would be one thing. It would been interesting how this

1858
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 3: quote was perceived had the Steelers one by ten instead

1859
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:05,559
Speaker 3: of losing by ten, and there was just you know, like, hey,

1860
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:07,880
Speaker 3: the reps were terrible today. We had these guys in

1861
01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:11,800
Speaker 3: training camp. I didn't like him in training camp. You know,

1862
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:13,960
Speaker 3: thankfully we were able to get to win, but they

1863
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:17,600
Speaker 3: were not very good. It's like it's almost, you know,

1864
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:19,960
Speaker 3: he's still gonna get fined for that. The NFL is

1865
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:22,800
Speaker 3: gonna send him his fine for twenty five grand or

1866
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 3: whatever it is for talking about the officials. But it's

1867
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:30,360
Speaker 3: like the immediate reaction to this is you're a sore loser.

1868
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:32,559
Speaker 3: You're blaming it on the reps. You guys just didn't

1869
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:36,760
Speaker 3: play good enough. YadA, YadA, YadA. But it's like for

1870
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:40,800
Speaker 3: me personally, as a former player and someone who's i've

1871
01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:43,040
Speaker 3: been you know, since I'm now on the other side

1872
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:47,560
Speaker 3: of it, I've been very critical of the NFL officials.

1873
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:49,800
Speaker 3: I think it's the biggest problem we have in an

1874
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:56,439
Speaker 3: incredible game. It's just I don't envy the job that

1875
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:58,960
Speaker 3: they have because as fans we get to sit on

1876
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 3: our couches and see thirty five different slow mo replay angles. Right,

1877
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 3: But I have been around the game long enough to

1878
01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:12,200
Speaker 3: slowly see more and more games getting affected by officials,

1879
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:17,719
Speaker 3: and I do I strongly believe that in the great

1880
01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:22,519
Speaker 3: game of football and the incredible brand of the National

1881
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 3: Football League, the officials are one of the biggest issues

1882
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:29,280
Speaker 3: that we have. And it's like, look, he said it,

1883
01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:32,400
Speaker 3: he said again. He wears no personal attacks at these guys.

1884
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 3: He's like, look, I was running them in training camp.

1885
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:37,000
Speaker 3: I didn't think they were very good. I've been there before.

1886
01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:39,720
Speaker 3: These reps come to training camp, they come to the

1887
01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:41,719
Speaker 3: they come to mini camp, they come to training camp.

1888
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:44,679
Speaker 3: You know, you're you're they're they're getting their reps as well,

1889
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:48,920
Speaker 3: it's it's their training camp and they throw flags and

1890
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 3: I just laugh at him, like they make these calls

1891
01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 3: in training camp. Or and we had a joint practice

1892
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:58,639
Speaker 3: in Tennessee last year, and I get it, it's it's

1893
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:00,960
Speaker 3: their training camp too. I screw up in practice all

1894
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:04,679
Speaker 3: the time. But these guys, you know, they they miss

1895
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:07,000
Speaker 3: calls or throw flags and you're scratching your head like

1896
01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:11,400
Speaker 3: what are we doing here? And you know, but when

1897
01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:14,360
Speaker 3: we go out on Sundays and when we play on Sundays,

1898
01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:21,040
Speaker 3: we're allowed to be scrutinized by coaches, personnel departments, media, everyone,

1899
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:23,600
Speaker 3: but no one's allowed to say anything about the officials.

1900
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 2: Well, more importantly than being criticized, Kyle, is that you

1901
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:28,600
Speaker 2: can get replaced.

1902
01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:34,160
Speaker 4: If you do your job, you get replaced. And that's

1903
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:37,160
Speaker 4: not a football thing. That's a life thing.

1904
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:42,120
Speaker 2: And I think that's what gets everybody. It feels like,

1905
01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:46,240
Speaker 2: you know, they've got a box around them, there's a

1906
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 2: there's glass around them that is unbreakable. And I think

1907
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:55,519
Speaker 2: that's what frustrates people, not like anybody needs to go

1908
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:58,120
Speaker 2: after them and attack them. I agree with you, it's

1909
01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:02,200
Speaker 2: an incredibly hard job. I've been down on an NFL field.

1910
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 2: To try to make sense of what's going on in

1911
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:09,840
Speaker 2: the middle of that physicality is incredibly difficult. But like

1912
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:12,160
Speaker 2: anything else in life, there are people who are good

1913
01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 2: at it people who aren't, and let's let the people

1914
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 2: who are good at it do the job. I mean,

1915
01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 2: the best example is if we if we change sports

1916
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 2: and go to baseball, where Angel Hernandez is grated the

1917
01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:27,599
Speaker 2: lowest in the league every single year and comes right

1918
01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:30,599
Speaker 2: back with his uniform in the locker the very next year.

1919
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 4: I don't understand it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that was actually the last time we talked.

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Speaker 3: I think that was something that I mentioned. Just it

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Speaker 3: drives me crazy that every industry in the world, you know,

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Speaker 3: if you're graded poorly or you're not performing at the

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Speaker 3: level of the expectation of that profession, you're replaced, and

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Speaker 3: it's like, now, oh well, we great them every single week,

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Speaker 3: and the highly graded officials are the ones that get

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Speaker 3: to officiate playoff games. And it's funny, like, you know,

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Speaker 3: over all the course of the years, I used to

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Speaker 3: when I'd get frustrated with officials and you know, throw

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Speaker 3: a line or two at him and was just be like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we'll send you a postcard for the playoffs, Bro, because

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Speaker 3: you're not gonna be there, like in the way You're

1933
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Speaker 3: great now will you will not be in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: So and it is. It's just it's so frustrating that,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's an industry where we're not replacing these

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Speaker 3: people who we constantly see time in and time again

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Speaker 3: not doing things up to the standard of our incredible league.

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Speaker 2: With Kyle Rudolph, I'm Mark Willard and coming up next,

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Speaker 2: it was hotly debated leading up to one of the

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Speaker 2: games today. Luckily nothing bad happened, but my goodness, I'd

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Speaker 2: love to ask you about it because it is the

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Speaker 2: subject that is I think most near and dear to every.

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Speaker 4: Football player I've ever talked to. So we'll do that.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I'm talking about coming up next

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: From the Shotgun, lock it live to the far side,

1947
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Speaker 1: jsm he gets the thrown near sign, turns out feel got.

1948
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Speaker 5: A bucker touchdown.

1949
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Speaker 2: Stay Hawks, DK metcuff with a great block Jackson Smiff and.

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Speaker 5: Jippo turns up field and takes it in the front

1951
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Speaker 5: corner of the end zone.

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Speaker 2: That right there is from the Seahawks Radio Network. We're

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Speaker 2: Mark Willard. Uh listen, Kyle, I I everybody I've ever

1960
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Speaker 2: talked to who's played in the NFL, this subject matter

1961
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Speaker 2: becomes rather serious interesting because I know the more that

1962
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Speaker 2: we know about things like CTE, the more guys like

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01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:16,720
Speaker 2: you think about whether or not you've been affected by

1964
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Speaker 2: what you've done with your life, and is that going

1965
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Speaker 2: to show up now? Could it show up in twenty years?

1966
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Speaker 2: Hopefully it never shows up. I know how difficult this

1967
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Speaker 2: can be. And we watch what happened with TUA last

1968
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Speaker 2: year and it really makes everybody stop and think. And

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Speaker 2: so I wondered your perspective about the forty nine ers

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Speaker 2: this week in that it was very rare this year.

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Speaker 2: It was reported that it had not happened at all.

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Speaker 2: That's not quite accurate, but it's very rare. This year

1973
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Speaker 2: that when someone ends up in the concussion protocol, they're

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Speaker 2: able to clear and play the very next week. It's

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Speaker 2: especially rare when it happens on a Monday night and

1976
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Speaker 2: then you're able to play the very next week. Brock

1977
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Speaker 2: Perdy just achieved his clearance yesterday and he played. And

1978
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Speaker 2: by the way, we don't know of anything at this point,

1979
01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:13,960
Speaker 2: but I will tell you at the very end of

1980
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Speaker 2: that game, he did get knocked over and the back

1981
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Speaker 2: of his head did hit off the ground and he

1982
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Speaker 2: did hold his head, and it's very, very scary. And

1983
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Speaker 2: so I sort of looked at this and went, I'm

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Speaker 2: not a doctor. Therefore I'm not smart enough to basically

1985
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Speaker 2: say the concussion protocol doesn't work. So if you tell

1986
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Speaker 2: me that a guy is cleared, then I don't know

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Speaker 2: why he wouldn't play, because you're saying he's cleared. He

1988
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Speaker 2: can't be more cleared than cleared. But I acknowledge that

1989
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Speaker 2: I'm not a doctor and an expert. How did you

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Speaker 2: feel about rock Perdy playing six days after entering concussion protocol.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was completely fine with it. Fine with it

1992
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Speaker 3: because I know the protocol that's in place and that

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Speaker 3: has been you know, implemented throughout all thirty two training

1994
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Speaker 3: rooms across the NFL. And that is a protocol that's

1995
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Speaker 3: not necessarily meant to you know, if you have a concussion,

1996
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Speaker 3: the protocol isn't there to keep you from playing the

1997
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Speaker 3: next week. The protocol is there so that there are

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Speaker 3: steps in place to make sure that if you do

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Speaker 3: go play the next week, that you are as healthy

2000
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Speaker 3: as you can be. And you know, you just said

2001
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Speaker 3: it like if you're cleared, you're cleared, you're good to go.

2002
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Speaker 3: But the way the protocol is set up that it

2003
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Speaker 3: makes it very difficult to get cleared and play the

2004
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Speaker 3: same week that you had the concussion or develop the symptoms.

2005
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Speaker 3: So I'm completely fine with it. I had two concussions

2006
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Speaker 3: throughout the course of my career, and both of those

2007
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Speaker 3: concussions I played the next week as well. And it

2008
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Speaker 3: doesn't mean that I didn't go through the protocol or

2009
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:09,520
Speaker 3: was suspect of the protocol that it didn't work. It's

2010
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Speaker 3: just you know, that went in the next day, I

2011
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Speaker 3: took my impact test, and then the day after that

2012
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Speaker 3: it was exercise, and then you know, the day after

2013
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Speaker 3: that it's your you know, on field activity, and then

2014
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Speaker 3: you know you have to be cleared by an independent doctor,

2015
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Speaker 3: so it's not even the niners that are making this decision.

2016
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Speaker 3: A funny story about independent neurologists. I remember in the

2017
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Speaker 3: second one I had was in twenty twelve, and I'm

2018
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Speaker 3: sitting in an independent neurologist doctor's office in Minneapolis, and

2019
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Speaker 3: he looked at me dead serious, and I thought this

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Speaker 3: was where, Okay, maybe I'm not out of the concussion protocol.

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Speaker 3: Because I don't know if this guy's serious or not.

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Speaker 3: He was like, is it possible for you to play

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Speaker 3: and not get hit in the head? I was like, what,

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Speaker 3: what do you What are you talking about? Like are

2025
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Speaker 3: you are you messing with me? So I answered this

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Speaker 3: question wrong and like I can't play on Sunday. But

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Speaker 3: I say all of that because the protocols are in

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Speaker 3: place so that if you are symptomatic free every step

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Speaker 3: along the way, you can get back in six days.

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Speaker 3: That's not some medical miracle and crazy feet. But at

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Speaker 3: if at any point along the way you have symptoms

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Speaker 3: or you know, you don't pass the first step the

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Speaker 3: first day, the second you know, so on and so forth,

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Speaker 3: you will not be cleared in time. Like you said.

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Speaker 3: He had his on Monday, and he passed every step

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Speaker 3: along the way and got cleared the day before the game.

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Speaker 3: So that is the perfect scenario where you know, he

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Speaker 3: probably came in Tuesday, he was already feeling better, and

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Speaker 3: then Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, he's completely cleared.

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Speaker 2: Can you lie your way through it? Hey, are you

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Speaker 2: feeling kystoms? No? No, doc, not because I saw a

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Speaker 2: doctor suggest that this week.

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Speaker 4: The players can just say they feel fine.

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Speaker 3: You can't. There's so many like computer tests and iPad tests,

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Speaker 3: and you have baseline protocols like you can sit there

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Speaker 3: and say no, like I'm good, You're you're not gonna

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Speaker 3: pass them. You're not gonna have the you know, response

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Speaker 3: time and things that you need. You know, it's the

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Speaker 3: technology and the medicine. The doctors are too good to

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Speaker 3: of course, every single player that goes in there is

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Speaker 3: gonna tell you I'm fine. You would have never got

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Speaker 3: removed from the game if it was up to your opinion. Uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, like every time I got my bell rung,

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Speaker 3: if you would it was no, I'm fine, I'm fine,

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Speaker 3: let me go back in. Yeah, they're they're not gonna

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Speaker 3: listen to you.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff, man, We're listening to you tonight and looking

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Speaker 2: forward to doing it again next week.

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Speaker 3: Always a good time. Appreciate it all right.

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Speaker 4: Well, we'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 2: That it is for Kyle, Rudolph Mark will enjoy the

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Speaker 2: rest of your evening on Fox Sports Radio.