1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Buck 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 2: with you? Buck? What is going on? 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 3: Man? 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 2: I see you're in the studio. 6 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, in studio, man, getting ready for path to the draft. 7 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Counting down the days to the NFL Draft. So the 8 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: prejraft process is in full swing. 9 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm excited to get in there later in 10 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 4: the week. I do understand it. From a little Bertie, 11 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 4: we're going no ties. Sounds like RTT got his way, 12 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 4: which you know, I know, I'm comfortable with. I think 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 4: you though, you know you like to dress it up 14 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 4: a little bit. Buck, you like to play around with 15 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 4: a different tie, a little bit pocket square. 16 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: I mean I can I can work around I can 17 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: work around it. Charles Davis. Though Charles CD is a 18 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: tie guy, not a fan, not a fan, not a fan, 19 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: so we'll see. I wouldn't be surprised if CD still 20 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: shows up tie. Oh probably, So I don't think this 21 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: would be as contentious as the push conversation at owners meetings. 22 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: But yes, maybe maybe and Red may have a little, 23 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: a little face off in the hallway explaining their various 24 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: size on why they stand on certain issues. 25 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 4: Well, by the way, just a quick, a quick, a 26 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 4: quick glimpse into CD. For those that don't know Charles 27 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 4: Davis as a person, obviously, you've you've heard him call games. 28 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 4: You've heard him called National championship games in college. You've 29 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 4: heard him call big time NFL games, playoff games. You've 30 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 4: you've heard him on Madden if you played the video 31 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 4: game for years and years and years. Charles Dave's one 32 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 4: of the best humans alive. He's I just got another 33 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 4: note from him, Buck. He sends these handwritten notes like 34 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 4: as I get ready to get to the draft about 35 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 4: you know, just encouraging you and and just what He's 36 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 4: an unbelievable teammate. So shout out to c d there 37 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 4: on that on that front. Wasn't planning to go there, 38 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 4: but you brought up his name, so I was like. 39 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: It was really great. 40 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: One of the greatest dudes ever, one of the best, 41 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: I would say, mentors when it comes to how to 42 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: operate in this space, how to prepare, how to get down, 43 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: how to survive, how to navigate various different obstacles. Uh, 44 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: he's done. He's had a long career. He is to 45 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: guide I would say as a phone or friend, if 46 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: I need a lifeline, it's tribute question. Yeah, he has 47 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: all the information to do anything. Absolutely one of the best, for. 48 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: Sure, no doubt. 49 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 4: All Right, today we're going to get into some of 50 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 4: the stuff that happened at the owner's meetings, because I 51 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 4: do think there's information you can pull out of those 52 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 4: meetings every year that do help us in our draft 53 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 4: prep and and some information there that kind of opened 54 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 4: some eyes a little bit. So we'll get to that 55 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 4: in just a minute, but I do want to give 56 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 4: you a quick update. So I did a promotional shoot 57 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 4: where we shot some videos. It was with rock Pretty 58 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: at NFL Network yesterday. It was with Toyota. And first 59 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 4: of all, we get there and it was we had 60 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: the camera mounted on the hood. We had all these 61 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 4: GoPros inside and we're gonna have these conversations just driving around. 62 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: Right. 63 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 4: So, by the way, I did learn when you're doing 64 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 4: those with a car company, you have to be at 65 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 4: ten and two. You can't. 66 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't do that. They don't let you do that. 67 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: And I'll use your hand kind of one hand. 68 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: So we did. 69 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 4: We did one run through and they're like like cut, cut, 70 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 4: DJ at ten and two. 71 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: We just bet. 72 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: I get it. I mean, I'm going five, I'm going 73 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: five miles an hour and there's. 74 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 3: No I haven't been. I have been in and drivers. 75 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: Yes. 76 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 4: So when you see these videos come out, you're gonna 77 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 4: see me talking to Brock Purty with my with my 78 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 4: hands out like this. Uh locked, locked and loaded. 79 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: But uh man, what what a what a great dude. 80 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 4: Man. I think you have had a chance to maybe 81 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: spend a little more time with him than I have. 82 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: I never have really spent any time with him, and 83 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 4: so that was the first time really meeting them, getting 84 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 4: to know him, and man, you can see why his 85 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 4: teammates love him Buck, And I want to get to 86 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 4: you what you took away from him, because I knew 87 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: you around him at the at the East West game 88 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 4: coming out. But I'll give you the one thing that 89 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 4: I asked him, Uh, I said, what do we always 90 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 4: miss about quarterbacks? 91 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: Like? 92 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 4: What is something that maybe we don't pay attention to? 93 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 4: And his answer caught me off guard because I don't 94 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 4: know if I've ever heard this. He said, Uh, I 95 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 4: think it's important that you can inspire your teammates that 96 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 4: like you're someone that they can rally around and you 97 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: bring you know, you always you've always used to phrase 98 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 4: like hope, like you have a franchise quarterback that brings hope, 99 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 4: but he kind of even was more like kind of 100 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 4: instead just saying leadership, he use the word inspiration, which 101 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 4: I thought was pretty interesting. 102 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: Look, I think it's fabulous because I don't know if 103 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: you've ever seen any of the micd up things on him. 104 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: He got he got more dog to him than people 105 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: would know. He's an alpha competitor. And you know what 106 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: I can appreciate him is as the young people say, 107 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: like he got it out the mutt. 108 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: He was a seventh round pick. 109 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: He was someone that when we saw the East West 110 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: Shrine game DJ, I didn't know if he was even draftable. 111 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: Like he was fine. He had a great career at 112 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: Iowa Stay. 113 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: He's an all time leader in so many different categories, 114 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: won a lot of games there, turned the program around. 115 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: But when you see him on the hoof, like he's 116 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: not an impressive physical being. He doesn't have great stature. 117 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't have some of the tools that 118 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: you see some of the elite quarterbacks have. And what 119 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: I can appreciate is when he was kind of dealing 120 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: with the criticism pre Jeff Process East West Shrine game 121 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: getting into training camp. He didn't get bitter, he got better. 122 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: He took all of those critiques. And I've heard him 123 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: talk about being in the room and Shanahan and those 124 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: guys coming at him and talking about him and asking 125 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: him to improve certain aspects of the game, and he 126 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,239 Speaker 1: just went to work. And when he got his opportunity, man, 127 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: it clicked and it called on like wildfire. And even 128 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: now where people refuse to give him credit for the 129 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: team's success, he still just goes to work. And you know, 130 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: people can talk about fifty million dollars quarterbacks and what 131 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: it should look like and what tools they should possess 132 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: and those things. But at the end of the day, 133 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: Man brock Prady, when he's under center for the Niners, 134 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: they win, and they went a lot, and it's undeniable 135 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: how different the offense looks when he's the point guard there. Look, man, 136 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna get a big contract. He's well deserving, and 137 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: then the Niners have to figure out a way to 138 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: build a round them to allow them to continue to 139 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: sustain a level of success with him a quarterback. 140 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you what when you spend time around 141 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 4: him and you see obviously we see the numbers and 142 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 4: see how fishent he is and how productive he is, 143 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 4: but I think he is like the sum is greater 144 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 4: than the individual parts with him, like you kind of 145 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 4: I got it, Like spending a day with him, I 146 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 4: definitely got it. 147 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, the in factor. 148 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: And I'll say this, man, for your teammates, likability matters 149 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: at quarterback. Like if guys really like you, and you 150 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: talked about inspiration, but if guys really like you, they 151 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: rally around you. You see it in their interactions, how 152 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: they pick him up when he's been knocked down, how 153 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: they run to him and they're genuinely excited when he 154 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: makes plays, and how he's genuinely excited for those other guys. 155 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: The one thing that we can look at tape and 156 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: we can talk and interview, but man, there's a chemistry 157 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: experiment that takes place with football teams that certain quarterbacks haven't. 158 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: And I think we've talked about it in times in 159 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: using like pick up basketball. Yeah, sometimes you can take 160 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: a quarterback and just put him in with four of 161 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: the guys, but his team always stays on the court 162 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: because they have this X factor. 163 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: Brock Purdy has some of that in his. 164 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 4: Game, no doubt. H And by the way, it's time 165 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 4: for the lead block presented by Team Obil for Business. 166 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 4: Football needs a network willing to go the xtra yard, 167 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 4: so to you, so go further with Team Mobile for Business. 168 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: Uh. I wanted to jump that jump off from there 169 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: into one pro. 170 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 4: Day and then we'll get into what I was talking 171 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 4: about the top about some of these comments from the 172 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 4: owner's meetings. But I heard from teams Jackson Darts pro 173 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: Day was really really good, man. And I know we 174 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 4: talk about pro day's all the time that it's you know, 175 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 4: let's don't read into it more than you should. But 176 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 4: I was listening more instead of just like how he 177 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 4: threw it, which you know, by all accounts was really good. 178 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 4: It was he was in kind of complete control. He 179 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 4: was running the whole thing. You know, they took recommendations 180 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 4: from the crowd about like coaches, what what else you 181 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 4: want to see, like let's we'll do it, we'll go 182 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 4: through it. But just kind of had a presence about 183 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 4: him in hand handled himself really well. So that's the 184 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 4: stuff I think that outside of the throes, that's the 185 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 4: stuff that's going to help people. 186 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,239 Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna say this and a lot of people 187 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: will know this, but was the Super Bowl sending when 188 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: Jackson DRT was in the building and he sat with 189 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: us while we were watching the game, I would say 190 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: I came away really impressed with him. 191 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 192 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: And the reason why I was impressed DJ, like, when 193 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: you meet prospects doing what. 194 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: We do, you never know how they're gonna come off. 195 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: You never know what they've heard in terms of what 196 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: you said about them, what they've read, if you've written 197 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: a critique of those things. But I can say this, 198 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: he has a blend of confidence and humility that I appreciated. 199 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: Humble enough to ask about the process and what to expect, 200 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: but confident enough to know that he's ready to handle 201 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: what is on the horizon. And as you begin to 202 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: dig deeper and you look at the tape and you 203 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: talk to people around the program, and you see him 204 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: handle all these things along the way, the combine, the 205 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: pro day and those things. DJ, I have him as 206 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: QB three, But I'm really confident, and I'm really confident 207 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: in terms of who Jackson Dart is going to be. 208 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm confident, and not only the intelligence, the toughness, the talent. 209 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 3: All of that is there. 210 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: I think he has that it factor that you must 211 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: have to be a really good quarterback in our league. 212 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: And I think the rough moments that we saw at USC, 213 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: the journey and the odyssey that he had at Ole 214 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: miss that's gonna serve him well. I just look at 215 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: bow Knicks, and I look at jayde and Daniels, and 216 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: I look at the people that have had to go 217 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: through some things to get to the other side. To me, 218 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm really confident that Jackson Dart is gonna be a 219 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: solid starting quarterback in the league. 220 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's I think there's more than a 221 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 4: few teams that degree, and I'm curious to see when 222 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 4: he ends up going off the board. But I would say, 223 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 4: if you're asking me right now, I think he's more 224 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 4: likely to go in one than he is to go 225 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 4: in two. I think he's a really good shot of 226 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 4: going in there. 227 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: The team that I would love to see take him, 228 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: I would love to see the la Rams take him 229 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the first ront. And the reason 230 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: why is I would love to see his bility to 231 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: mash up with Sean McVay in a run heavy. I 232 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: can't even call it run heavy, but a run centric 233 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: offense that has confinary play action passes, that utilizes the 234 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: athleticism of the quarterback and those things. Because I think 235 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: about those scripted winners that Lane Kiffin routinely uses at 236 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: ole Miss. 237 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: I know Sean McVay can script some winners. 238 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: As well, and I just feel like that environment or 239 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: the ecosystem as they talk about with the rams would 240 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: be perfect and ideal for him. I also think that's 241 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: about the right spot based on what I saw on tape, 242 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: how I graded him where he should come off the board. 243 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I think that's I think that's a great point. 244 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 4: That would be a fantastic fit. That's a rap for 245 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 4: the lead block presented by T Mobile for Business. Football 246 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 4: needs a network willing to go the extra yards. So 247 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 4: do you go further with T Mobile for Business? Buck, 248 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: Let's take a quick pause here, let's come back. I 249 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 4: want to hit you on some of these comments I 250 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 4: saw from the owner's meetings and see what we can 251 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 4: make some sense of it. Right after this, all right, Bob, 252 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 4: First one here, this is Mike Tomlin. This is him 253 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 4: talking about a quarterback, and that is a quarterback in 254 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 4: Mason Rudolph, and that's why we brought him back. Tomlin said, 255 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 4: I'm comfortable with that with him being the starter. We've 256 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 4: been there before. He's a very capable guy. Are you 257 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 4: buying that that he's comfortable going into the season with 258 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 4: Mason Rudolf. 259 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: I think sometimes, you know, coaches have a greater appreciation 260 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: for guys when they leave, and after dealing with all 261 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: of the things, I thought Justin Fields was solid for them. 262 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson had moments for them. 263 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: But I think if you're Mike Tomlin and there's a 264 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: comfort level in terms of guys and fit within the 265 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: locker room, Mason Rudolph was of Pittsburgh, still there for 266 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: a long time. Mason Rudolph knows how the Pittsburgh still 267 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: is get down and how they do business. Mason Rudolph 268 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: is at a point where ego isn't an issue when 269 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: it comes to being the QB one. 270 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: Maybe, just maybe, and I did know that you're gonna 271 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 3: take us. 272 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: This, But you know how we always talk about the 273 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback being the best way to build a Super 274 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: Bowl team because when you have it at that low number, 275 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: you can build all the other pieces well, maybe Mason 276 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: Rudolph this year or whatever they signed them to. Maybe 277 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: this is the bargain basement quarterback that they can use 278 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: to fill out the rest of the roster until they 279 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: really find the quarterback of the future. And maybe they 280 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: don't want to rush it because a couple of years 281 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: ago they reached for Kenny Pickett at twenty, you know, 282 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: because they had to have a quarterback and it wasn't 283 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: the right one. I think if they really feel like 284 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: that internally about Mason Rudolph, well, now, man, you just 285 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: attack the draft like you always attack it. 286 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 3: Take the best player that is available at that thing. 287 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: Because if you can line up and play with Mason 288 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: Rudolph and you literally believe that you can win with him, 289 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: when that opens up the board for you to make 290 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: decisions that are best for the team and not based 291 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: on need. 292 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm also looking through here. I wanted to pull 293 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 4: these number up. Think about the Steelers. The Steelers last 294 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 4: year buck were passing offense. They were twenty seventh in 295 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 4: the league. Twenty seventh. So let's look at DK Metcalf 296 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 4: last year fifteen yards to catch the year before, sixteen 297 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 4: point nine yards to catch. Darner's you know, right, it's 298 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 4: seventeen yards per catch. This was I've kind of referred 299 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 4: to the Steelers as a station to station, you know, offense. 300 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 4: If you think about baseball, it's just yeah, first based 301 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 4: like there's no triples and home runs like this is 302 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 4: none of that. 303 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: And I thought, you know, and we'll see what happens. 304 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 4: I thought when they got DK that that meant that 305 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 4: George Pickens probably would be trade bait, that he would 306 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 4: be on the way out. But he's still on the 307 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 4: team right now. We'll see if they carry him into 308 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 4: the year. But in some ways, like Naji Harris leaving, 309 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 4: who was kind of the face of singles, singles, singles, 310 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 4: maybe an occasional double, I don't think he had a run. 311 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 4: You know, I don't know what his longest run was, 312 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 4: but I know I think Jim Harbaugh has a longer 313 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 4: career run than than Naji Harris. I saw that week 314 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: when it happened. So you're not getting you're not He's 315 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 4: not a home run hitter. That's not the style of 316 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 4: back yet, but they're going to be now. They're gonna 317 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 4: have more carries from a more explosive player, whether that's 318 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 4: Warren whoever, else they draft and bring in there. But 319 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 4: they're gonna have more explosive runners. They're gonna have with 320 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 4: DK Metcalfe, and if they keep George Pickens, you've got 321 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 4: some flyers there. Like, it's kind of interesting to see 322 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 4: how they would build that offense. But I think in 323 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 4: some ways you could. You could even say, Okay, maybe 324 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 4: from a talent standpoint, with Fields and Russ, maybe Mason 325 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 4: Rudolph comes in a little bit below them. But if 326 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 4: this is what they had to do, I think they'd 327 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 4: still could be a more explosive offense. 328 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: So so what you're telling me is Mike Tomlin is saying, hey, 329 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna bring you back, Mason Rudolph. But before you 330 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: go up to bat, Oh, I got this new little 331 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: torpedo bat that we're. 332 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 3: Gonna put in your hand. 333 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: We don't put DK metcalf and George Pickens on the perimeter. 334 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: A little more explosiveness and oh, by the way, you 335 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: may have a little more pop in you bet, because 336 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: then you got more explosive options. And now that you're 337 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: talking about let's be honest, DJ, you said they had 338 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: the twenty seventh ranked pass offense. 339 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, how much worse could. 340 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: It be like we're just being it, We're being honest. 341 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,119 Speaker 2: How much he won ten games? They wont ten double. 342 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 4: Digit games with that last year, So how much worse 343 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 4: being team with Rudolph? 344 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: And if you give him weapons and opportunities to push 345 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: the ball down the field, you got firepower and pickings 346 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: and DK metcalf. We talked about a running back that 347 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: potentially you can take. Maybe just maybe it's to still 348 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: as saying yeah, we're gonna double down and figure out 349 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: a way to continue to win. And maybe we're talking 350 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: about preserving the culture in the locker room as opposed 351 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: to mortgage in the farm. For Ann Rodgers to come 352 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: in there and potentially wreck a little bit of the 353 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: goodwill that they have, the vibes that they have. 354 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 3: In the locker room, Yeah, I saw it. 355 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 4: I think somebody reported that he is playing catch with 356 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 4: DK though somewhere that Aaron Rodgers was, So maybe that's 357 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 4: eventually what happens Aaron Rodgers. But even at that same 358 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 4: thing applies with Rogers. I think this will be I 359 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 4: think the goal would be for this to be a 360 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 4: more explosive offense. And I would argue because they traded 361 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 4: the two for DK they don't have a two they have. 362 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 4: They picked twenty first and then next pick is eighty third. 363 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 4: If somebody who is interested wants to come up for quarterback, 364 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 4: if they're not comfortable taking the quarterback there, if it's 365 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 4: Jackson Dark, they might be a prime candidate to say, hey, Cleveland, 366 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 4: you know the Giants whichever you guys don't take quarterbacks 367 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: at the top. You want to come back in and 368 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 4: still get one. We're open for business and we'll go 369 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 4: ahead and get some of those picks in that second 370 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 4: round range that we don't currently possess. 371 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm okay with it, Like I think there are a 372 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: few different ways to do it, and the likelihood of 373 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: where they're picking the quarterback jumping in and being a 374 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback being an immediate offensive niter, the odds are 375 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: against that kind of impact from a rookie quarterback. If 376 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: you're Mike Tomlin and if you're the Stillers and you're 377 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: talking about closing the gap and winning now, maybe a 378 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: veteran presence with a better supporting cast, a more dynamic 379 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: supporting cast is the way to go for them. 380 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, no question, We'll see what they end up doing there. 381 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 4: But I thought interesting comments there from Mike Tomlin. How 382 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 4: about this one? This is from coach Calahan Tennessee Titans. 383 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 4: We're open to everything at this point. If it's something 384 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 4: you feel is beyond the value you ever thought you 385 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 4: could get, that's one thing. But you also have to 386 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 4: look at what a potential quarterback could look like. Those guys, 387 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 4: to me, are priceless tip pitches there, Buck, you tip 388 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 4: in your pitches. 389 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 3: I think that's a tip pitch. 390 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: That is a tip pitch. I mean we all know this, 391 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: right and particularly because you and I on our side, Jows, 392 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: we live in a conference where it looks it's a 393 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: murderer's row quarterbacks. 394 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 3: I don't care how you slice it. 395 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: And I know we just talked about Pittsburgh being in 396 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: the AFC and how they can piece middle. 397 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 3: With explosive plays whatever a DJ. 398 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: At some point you gonna have to stand on the 399 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: mound and you have to you have to go and 400 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: get out Alan Mahomes, Jackson Burrow, Herbert Stroud, bow Nicks 401 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: and others. We can sit here and talk about the 402 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: team thing is going to work, but at some point. 403 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 3: You got to have a dude that can put the 404 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 3: fire out. 405 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: And if you don't have one you're chasing, or the 406 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 1: margin of eer is so small for you to be 407 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: able to get it done. 408 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 3: I mean, that's just the reality. 409 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: So Callahan looks around and he sees it, and he's like, 410 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: you got to have one to at least compete. 411 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: If you don't have one, you don't really have a chance. Yeah. 412 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 4: I definitely think that's the direction in which they're going 413 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 4: to end up going there in Tennessee with the first overall, 414 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 4: pick a couple more, two more for you. Jim Harbaugh 415 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 4: was asked about bringing Keenan Allen back. Anything's possible, that 416 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 4: would be cool. What Harbaugh said, I don't know, you 417 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 4: see anything there, And Mike Williams already come back. You 418 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 4: bring back Keenan Allen as well. 419 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 3: Get the band together. 420 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: Bringing a band back together, I will say this, So 421 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: you did it one way, and look they did it 422 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: without last year. Well, sometimes guys have to go away 423 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: to kind of finally remember how good they had it 424 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: at their previous destination. Mike Williams hearing him talk lovingly 425 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: about being back in the building, talking about the bolt 426 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: and those things, and I'm sure he's talked to his 427 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: teammates and they talked about how cool things may be 428 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: down there, the fact that they're winning. I think now 429 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: at look, Keenan Allen's accomplished a lot of individual things. 430 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: The only thing that's left to accomplish is really winning 431 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: at a high level. Maybe he is more amenable to 432 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: coming back and playing without the money being a big 433 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: part of it, and maybe the charge, like, hey, if 434 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna come back at a price, this team friendly. 435 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't we take it? 436 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: You know, it helps our quarterback get better because he 437 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: already has instant chemistry with those guys, and then it's 438 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: a matter of having young guys ready to take those roles. 439 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: But to me, I think it could be a good play, 440 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: and I think Keenan Allen, to me, look, he's forever 441 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: a charge. He will probably be a better fit and 442 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: more agreeable to some of the things that have to 443 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: take place for the team to win in LA as 444 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,120 Speaker 1: opposed to other spots. 445 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 4: If you're Keenan Allen, you know you you you look 446 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 4: at that situation that you've got Lad McConkie, who's does 447 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 4: a lot of his work in the slot, where Keenan 448 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 4: is kind of, you know, really really comfortable in there. 449 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 4: I was almost looking at it. If you're you know, 450 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 4: you get back to the West coast, for sure, that 451 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 4: could be an option. But I also was thinking about 452 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 4: Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen, where do you go to college? 453 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 3: Buck? Where did he go? Ko? Then you put him 454 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 3: in the Bay Area. 455 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 4: No, I'm saying he went to Cal was a Cal 456 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 4: quarterback who hadn't signed yet. 457 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 3: Oh oh, you think he's gonna be a buddy. 458 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 4: You think, you think you think the relationship is, but 459 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 4: you think about he kind of compliments the two guys 460 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh. If you think about it, I mean, you've 461 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 4: got to get in there outside Flyers. Now you get 462 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 4: a real trustworthy slot. I mean, he's a He's a 463 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 4: better version of of you know, an Alan Lazard, who 464 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 4: someone who is someone who is someone that that Rogers 465 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 4: has had affinity for and love throwing to. I mean, 466 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: he does everything he does better. So I know, I 467 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 4: know this about you. You don't normally drop little things 468 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 4: without this one I got. 469 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 3: I know. 470 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: But I did wonder lab McConkie because Lab mnconkie did flourish. 471 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: And it's like Keenan is really a slot receiver. You 472 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: have some redundancy but I just like, if potentially you 473 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: could bring the gang. 474 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 3: Back together, I just know trusts him. 475 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just know if you're Keenan Allen and you 476 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: haven't had like quality quarterback play the last year, so 477 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: and you just know, I know Herbert is a stud, 478 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: you'd probably more likely be like, Man, let me go 479 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: back and play with a really good quarterback so I 480 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: can get. 481 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 3: Back and get my numbers and my touches. Yeah. 482 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 4: Maybe that's maybe that's where we end up going there, 483 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,239 Speaker 4: and that's what ends up happening. All Right, this has 484 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 4: been kind of the big topic. I don't even think 485 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 4: we've talked about this once. It hasn't just hasn't been 486 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 4: as interesting to me as it is to apparently everybody else. 487 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 4: But Sean McDermott, still anti Tush Push, says he has 488 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: injury concerns even though the data suggests there's no injury risk, 489 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 4: which I found to be kind of funny. This just 490 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 4: seems like, Look, the rest of the league is like this. 491 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 4: One team is really really really good at this. If 492 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 4: we can all band together and just eliminate it, I 493 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 4: think we all benefit in some way shape. 494 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: But I think that's such a weak way to go out. 495 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: Everyone has the opportunity to be really good at the play. 496 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: Everyone can devote the time into resources to really make 497 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: the play effective for them. The Philadelphia Eagles have found 498 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: a way to make this a very potent play, and 499 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: it's a combination of how they teach it, how they 500 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: scheme it, how they are committed to it, and who 501 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: they have executing it. I mean, DJ, if you have 502 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: one of the best offensive lines in football and probably 503 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: the strongest quarterback lower body strength and football executing a 504 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: rugby scrum, it's gonna be hard to stop it. 505 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 3: Everyone else has the opportunity to do the same thing. 506 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: They have mastered the tush push, and I think all 507 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: of this other stuff is jealousy and envy and just 508 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: bitterness because they are so good at it. Now here's 509 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: the thing. We've seen some teams stop it mm hmm, 510 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: but it's hard to stop a lot because they've been really, 511 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: really good with their execution. 512 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 4: I don't know, I just I think it is kind 513 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 4: of weak sauce. I'm with you on that. 514 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 3: Of just y'all have. 515 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 4: It's not like they nobody else has the opportunity to 516 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 4: do the exact same thing. It's just they crafted a 517 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 4: play that perfectly fits their personnel. But I mean, I 518 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 4: guess there are they is there an argument of wow, 519 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 4: it's just a non competitive play because they're so good 520 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 4: at it. I mean, like, what are we gonna do? 521 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 4: We're gonna ban what are we gonna outlaw fades to 522 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 4: Randy Moss in the red zone, like what what are 523 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 4: we gonna do? Like, well, we can't stop. 524 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 3: That is like that doesn't I don't. 525 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: I don't think that's right, and I don't think it 526 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: should be something where you make a change without the 527 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: data supporting. 528 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 3: There's been a ton of it. 529 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: If they've been carding guys off like the old video 530 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: game where the ambulance would come on the field and 531 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: take them off, it hasn't been there, Like so I remember. 532 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 2: That they couldn't get a rid with that anymore. 533 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 4: By the way, I forgot about that. 534 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: If they're not doing that, then look, you gotta go. 535 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: You gotta figure out a way to do it. You 536 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: gotta practice against, you gotta work against, you gotta get 537 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: better at it in training camp. But it's unfair to 538 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: penalize a team that's really successful doing it for something 539 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: that they created and mastered. 540 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 3: I did find. 541 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 4: The only thing that I found interesting about this whole 542 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 4: thing was the fact that Sirianni was going around to 543 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,479 Speaker 4: all the former Eagles coaches that are now head coaches, 544 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 4: being like, yeah, you guys better vote. You guys got 545 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 4: your jobs because of this thing. You better vote to 546 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 4: keep this thing alive. Talking about you know, coach stich In, 547 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 4: talking about Kellen Moore, Jonathan Gannon, like, I better have 548 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 4: those three votes. 549 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: Well, because he only needs he only needs nine votes 550 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: to squash it. So if he gets his guys to 551 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: come through, that would help. 552 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 4: Knowing Howie too, you know how he's been lobbying, Like 553 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 4: he's been going around trying to lobby people around the league. 554 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 4: But I'll be interested to see what the vote. As 555 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 4: we're recording this, there's no finality to it, but I 556 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 4: wouldn't feel great about it, just because I know how 557 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 4: this league operates, and if it does benefit them, they're 558 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 4: going to vote against it. 559 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: That's just how competitive the league is. It is what 560 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 3: it is. 561 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, anything else you want to get into Buck, I 562 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 2: know you've got to run to get a meeting. 563 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: But out of there, man, it's just so much fun 564 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: to have these opics and DJ as we get into it. 565 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: I'm really curious as we go back and start talking 566 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: about like some of these last burning questions. When it 567 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: comes to final rankings, you're putting out your last you know, 568 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: top fifty as expands, So I think you expanded all 569 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: the way out on top one hundred to one fifty, 570 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: being able to put the finishing touches on that. Like, 571 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: I can't wait to have some of these conversations because 572 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: now it's getting real. 573 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 3: Everyone's going back into the meetings. 574 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: We're putting all the data, the medical, all the background 575 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: stuff in there with the final film evaluation. So I'm 576 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: looking forward to kind of honing in on some of 577 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: the players, some of the late rises, some of the 578 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: late faults in this draft lives. 579 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's also ghost chasing season, so that's what I'm doing, 580 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 4: trying to find these deen. 581 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 3: Down depend down. 582 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 2: But depending on these guys end up going. 583 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 4: So I gotta just I gotta find some guys to 584 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 4: round out these six and seventh rounds. 585 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 3: We get some of these. 586 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 4: Pop up dudes, but there are fewer this year because 587 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 4: I think the transfer portal eliminated that. Like, I'm not 588 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 4: watching nearly as many you know, Division two type guys 589 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 4: like normally, I've got a pretty good chunk of those 590 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 4: guys that have a chance. 591 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 3: They should say that many. 592 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: Man, Yes, sir, the chance for a porter has forever 593 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: changed the NFL draft and has changed March Madness. It's 594 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: all chalk is all the heavyweights are going. 595 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: It is forever change. 596 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: I never thought that it would have this much of 597 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: an impact we talked about on the NFL Draft. But man, 598 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: college basketball, like March Madness is, there's no madness, there's 599 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: just March. 600 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 4: Somebody I think was Jay Wright, brought up a great 601 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 4: point that we've never seen this talented of a final four, 602 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 4: Like all these great players have all banded together, so 603 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 4: they're all on just a few teams. So from I'm 604 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 4: sure the NBA scout feel the same way we did 605 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 4: when we talked about the college football playoff and we 606 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 4: talked about the conference realignment, like we've never seen more 607 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 4: good on good than we're seeing now. 608 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: You can't evaluate if you can't evaluate now seeing good 609 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: on good, great players playing against other great players with 610 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,959 Speaker 1: in high stakes games. 611 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, as a scout, that's all you want. 612 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: Are you looking for these high leverage opportunities to see 613 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: how it could translate to the next low. It's been 614 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: great in terms of that, not as fun for the 615 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: bracky guys that like that. Oh I'm gonna going to 616 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: number fourteen. 617 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 4: Yeah not this year, Bud, my son, my son went 618 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 4: that route. Pool, got a bunch of ones, ones and 619 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 4: two bad ones. 620 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so so much. 621 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Well that's gonna do it for us today. 622 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 3: I hope you guys have enjoyed it. We'll be back Thursday 623 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 3: with a new pod. 624 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 4: I appreciate you hanging with us right here on Move 625 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 4: the sticks.