1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to a social distancing episode of Packers 2 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Unscripted from Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined 3 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: as always by my trusted colleague West hod Kwitz. We're 4 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: restarting Packers Unscripted here from our homes during the COVID 5 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: nineteen pandemic, doing the best we can with the technology 6 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: that is available. West, and my friend, how is your 7 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: weekend and how are you well? I'm doing good, Mike. 8 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: I like how we're slowly but surely evolving with our backgrounds. 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: I still have some work to do. I got to 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: remove the board games over here, and obviously you have 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: that nice bookshelf in the background. We're all adapting, we're 12 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: all adjusting, and we're all healthy, so that's the most 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: important thing. Yeah. I just happen to have to move 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: into another room from where I've been for some other 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: videos because my wife also has video conferencing and things 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: to do, and we've been sharing a home office. So 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: we're making do here as best we can as we 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: restart Unscripted over this weekend. Next week, we're gonna be 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: doing a series of episodes previewing the draft and in 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: doing so, looking at the Packers roster position by position 21 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: where how the positions are shaping up heading into the draft. 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: There's also a written series on the website going position 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: by position if you want to check that out as well. 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: We will follow that along here during our unscripted episodes today, 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: we're going to touch on the quarterbacks and the running backs. 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: We'll start there. So, Wes, I'm just gonna throw this 27 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: at you. There's Aaron Rodgers, Tim Boyle, and Manny Wilkins 28 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: right now in the Packers quarterback room and whenever they 29 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: actually reconvene in a room, as we like to say, 30 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people wondering what exactly the Packers are 31 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: going to do at quarterback, if anything, in the draft. 32 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: Do you see that quarterback room changing in the draft 33 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: after the draft, and if so, how high a pick 34 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: do you think Green Bay might use at that position. Yeah, 35 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: I definitely think it's within the realm of possibilities that 36 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: the Packers draft a quarterback this year. It will have 37 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: been five years now since they drafted Brett Huntley, so 38 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: there is time to do that. The only thing that 39 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: I keep coming back to those the people that are 40 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: talking about a quarterback at number thirty now while Brian 41 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: Goodacuin's has left all of his options on the table 42 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: and has made sure to mention numerous times that no 43 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: matter what happens, they're going to play the board as 44 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: it as it stands. But the other way I look 45 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: at it, too, kind of goes back to how I 46 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: approach quarantining life, and that is with milk, Mike, I'm 47 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: sure you eat cereal. I eat cereal. My son drinks milk. 48 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: You can only buy so much milk and actually consume 49 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: all the milk. Sometimes it'll just end up spoiling on 50 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: you if you don't get to it in time. I 51 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: don't know if I necessaries necessarily see the point in 52 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback Aaron Rodgers successor this year, this early. 53 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: The situation that I've tried to lay out you also 54 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: pinpointed in your story as well, is that Roger's situation 55 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: is so different from what the Packers went through with 56 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: Brett Farve because he says time and time again he 57 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: wants to play into his forties. He looks at a 58 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: guy like Tom Brady with admiration of what he's been 59 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: able to do in the latter half, in this final 60 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: stage at his career, and Rogers. The way that he 61 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: trains and takes care of himself, there's no reason to 62 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: believe that he's not going to be doing this for 63 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: another four five six years, barring injury. That being said, 64 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: I think the Packers have a lot of issue not issues, 65 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: but a lot of areas where they could address in 66 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: this first round, and that number thirty pick is very valuable, Mike. 67 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: A lot of other people have talked about Aaron Rodgers. 68 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: They took him in two thousand five and they didn't 69 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: really need him, but the thing was that he was 70 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: the only guy left on their board with the first 71 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: round great at that point, and they also didn't have 72 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: the fifth year option. So if there is a quarterback available, 73 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: maybe that's where you see another team draft up, trade 74 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: up to get that pick. Those are all the things 75 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: kind of going through my mind right now is the 76 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: Packers have to make a really big decision. Are on 77 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: the next Yeah, I'm with you there too. I mean, 78 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: we've seen lot of mock drafts that have the Packers 79 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: taking a quarterback at number thirty, whether it be Jordan's 80 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: Love from Utah, stage Jacobieson from Washington. Those are a 81 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: couple of guys that some of the draft knicks have 82 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: going to Green Bay at number thirty. But I'm with 83 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: you with Rogers having four years left on his contract, 84 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: with him being very clear about how long he wants 85 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: to play, and the fact that the Packers just got 86 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: to an NFC Championship game a year ago. Rogers is 87 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: not talking retirement at all. I just don't see necessarily 88 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: the investment in that quarterback of the future right now. 89 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: And I've said this inn inbox before as well. When 90 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: if you do it now and Rogers is still going 91 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,679 Speaker 1: to play for three or four or maybe five more years, 92 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: you have to make a decision on a second contract 93 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: with that quarterback of the future before you've even seen 94 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: him play. And so I don't understand that timeline really 95 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: working for the Packers in that respect. And the other 96 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: thing too, I've said this all along. I think that, 97 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, if a quarterback, one of the top 98 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: first round quarterbacks, falls to Green Bay at number thirty, 99 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: I think that pick becomes potentially really valuable as a 100 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: trade piece for Brian Goodacons he can trade back maybe 101 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: it's five or six or eight or ten spots still 102 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: get a really good player at the top of the 103 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: second round and recoup another draft pick to be able 104 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: to use to address some of those other areas on 105 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: the roster that we're gonna be talking about here as 106 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: the week goes along. Now that being said, a mid 107 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: round or late round draft pick on a quarterback to 108 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: add some competition for those backup spots with Tim Boyle 109 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: and Manny Wilkins. I could totally see the Packers doing 110 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: that with goodacoons coming into this draft with end picks, 111 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: including five of them in the final two rounds, bringing 112 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: another quarterback and uh and having a full fledged competition 113 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: for that number two job. I could definitely see that happening. Yeah, 114 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: and and there's so many times I meant I made 115 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: this argument and Insider inbox last month. You look around 116 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: the NFL right now at these teams with quarterbacks, established 117 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: quarterbacks over thirty five years old. How many of them 118 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: have a handpoint successor you know, successor her a parent 119 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: at this point? They don't um Right now, the Los 120 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers look like they're going to be moving into 121 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: the season next year with Tyrod Taylor as their starting 122 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: quarterback after he was a backup in a veteran that 123 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: they signed last year. They don't really have that in Pittsburgh. 124 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: Certainly New England is going through right now in the 125 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: post Tom Brady era, so it's not that uncommon, and 126 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: it's almost a real strong luxury to be able to 127 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: have a guy that you feel is going to be 128 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: the next person to take the reins at the quarterback position. 129 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: All that being said, so many times, Mike, I go 130 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 1: back to what Ron Wolf did. He had a really 131 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: nice plethora of quarterbacks coming through Green Bay during that time. 132 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: None of them were Day one or Day two what 133 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: would be Day one or Day two picks. They were 134 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: all fourth rounders, fifth rounders, six rounders, and they had 135 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: opportunity and they took advantage of it. That's what I'm 136 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 1: looking forward to. Maybe find somebody that can push Tim Boyle, 137 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: can push Manny Wilkins, but not necessarily lock yourself into 138 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: having to make sure that this guy's on the roster 139 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: and is the next guy. Yeah, and I'll make one 140 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: last point on this to the other approach to go 141 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: about it. When you look at this at the succession plan, 142 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: so to speak, maybe you just wait until Rogers is done, 143 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: you invest what you need to in the quarterback of 144 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: the future, and then you try to do what the 145 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: Seahawks did with Russell Wilson, what the Chiefs did with 146 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, which is to win a Super Bowl on 147 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: with a quarterback on a rookie contract because you can 148 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: spend a lot of money salary cap wise elsewhere on 149 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: the roster to build yourself up and make that run. 150 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: So that's the approach that a lot of other teams 151 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: have have taken as well. So with that, um, should 152 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: we move on to running backs? Yeah, let's move on 153 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: to running backs. I'm excited to talk about this. Okay, Well, 154 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: here's the interesting thing with the Packers at running back west. 155 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: When you do what Brian Goodakoints did in the draft 156 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what Ted Thompson did in the draft a 157 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: few years ago, and you stockpile at one position. Well, 158 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: here now the Packers are with Aaron Rodgers or Aaron 159 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: Jones excuse me, and Jamal Williams as you're one two 160 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: punch in the backfield. But they're both entering their contract 161 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: year at the same time because they were drafted in 162 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: the same year. So the running back position, the Packers 163 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: definitely have to look to the future here and I 164 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: think make some plans for where this position is going 165 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: to go. Because as much as Jones and Williams are 166 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: best friends, they're a great one to punch. They've been really, 167 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: really close personally since the day they arrived in Green Bay. 168 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: It's probably not realistic from a salary cap perspective to 169 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: keep both guys beyond this year. Maybe it could happen. 170 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. It just doesn't seem likely. So planning 171 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: for the future at the running back position, I definitely 172 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: think that's on the table in this Drafford Green Bay. Yeah, 173 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: because it's so rare that you actually get two running 174 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: backs that even go into a fourth season together. At 175 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: some point, you know, you don't draft guys typically this 176 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: same year. They end up being kind of, you know, 177 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: helved off a little bit in terms of when they 178 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: enter the league. And then here they are now and 179 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: going into year four and both of them are established players. 180 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: I firmly believe, and I've said it to you a 181 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: numerous amount of times, I think Jamal Williams could be 182 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: a thousand yard rusher in this offense. I think he 183 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: could be a thousand yard running back in the NFL. 184 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: And I imagine he wants to get that opportunity. At 185 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: some point, Aaron Jones became the prominent playmaker I think 186 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: everybody thought he could be last year in this offense 187 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: and multifaceted. It's not just as a running back. It's 188 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: not as a scatback. It's as a receiver, it's a 189 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: as a power guy in the middle of the field 190 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: when he needs to Aaron Jones, I look at this 191 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: year that he's entering now in two thousand nine or 192 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: two thousand twenty, excuse me, h, I look at this 193 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: as an opportunity for him to not only show that 194 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: last year wasn't you know, in operation or anything like that, 195 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: that that was something that he actually can do angeibly 196 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: every single season. But I think it's also an opportunity 197 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: for to show that, you know what, I'm one of 198 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: the best running backs in the National Football League. At 199 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: this point. Those two guys together in tandem, I think 200 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: they're one of the top one two punches they have 201 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: right now in the NFL. But all that being said, 202 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: you also have to keep an eye on the future. 203 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: And while I still don't think number thirty is gonna 204 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: be Jonathan Taylor or something like that, it makes sense, 205 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: you know where they found Jamal Williams in the fourth round, 206 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones in the fifth round. You go back a 207 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: lot of years James Starts. For as much as people 208 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: kind of ragged on him about the injuries, he was 209 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: a heck of a find in the sixth round. Those 210 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: type of players are out there and they're ready to 211 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: make impacts. So when you have Dexter Williams Tyler Irvin 212 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: obviously coming back, there's depth there, but maybe you find 213 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: another prospect to bring into that to also have in 214 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: the backshelf. Now, depending on what happens with Jones and 215 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: Williams over the next year. Yeah, as you mentioned, the 216 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: Packers brought back Tyler Irvin at running back. He's sort 217 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: of that change the pace I guess I call it 218 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: a niche role in the offense. They're gonna be certain plays, 219 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: certain packages that we saw where Matt Lafleur likes to 220 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: use him in certain situations. He's also obviously the primary 221 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: return man on special teams on the roster right now. 222 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: Dexter Williams, drafted in the sixth round last year out 223 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: of Notre Aim was inactive on game day for the 224 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: better part of his rookie season. I think we saw 225 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: West things like catching the ball out of the backfield 226 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: the past protection those things are works in progress. With 227 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: Dexter Williams, I don't know if the Packers are necessarily 228 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: going to feel like he can just step in and 229 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: be the number two guy right away if either Aaron 230 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: Jones or Jamal Williams were to miss time with injury, 231 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: so so, as I said, planning for the future at 232 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: that position, to see where this goes. I think with 233 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones and trying to get a new contract after 234 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: this year, we all know that's not going to come cheap. 235 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: And as you mentioned with Jamal Williams, he may be 236 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: looking for an opportunity where he's not second fiddle, so 237 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: to speak, and he gets a chance to be more 238 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: of a feature back somewhere. Jonathan Taylor from Wisconsin, you 239 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: mentioned him, He's one of these first or second round 240 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: running backs that's being talked about out there. I'll glance 241 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: at my list here quickly. Also DeAndre Swift from Georgia, 242 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: J K. Dobbins from Ohio State, a couple of other 243 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: guys mentioned that if the Packers are going to go 244 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: running back in the first round or maybe the second round, 245 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: those are the guys that that could be available, could 246 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: be on the board there. And then I've also seen 247 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: uh some you know, mock drafts in in the second 248 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: round or beyond linking the Packers to cam Acres from 249 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: Florida State or maybe Zach Moss from Utah. As you mentioned, 250 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: I think there are always the you know, when you 251 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: look at the fact that Jamal Williams was a fourth 252 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: round pick, Aaron Jones was a fifth round pick. You 253 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: mentioned James Starks being a sixth round pick. Those kind 254 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: of picks don't always work out, but when they do, 255 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: they really really help you because because the Packers have 256 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: found a lot of production at the running back position 257 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: over the last few years, and they did not have 258 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: to spend what you would consider a premium draft pick 259 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: in order to get that production. Yeah, it's just funny 260 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: when you go back and look at it. Over the 261 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: years Packers of actually going back to two thousand, you 262 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: know ten, they've had success finding running backs and finding 263 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: different types of running backs to fit these offenses. Certainly, 264 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: when they invested the second rounder with Eddie Lacy, he 265 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: paid them off for that. I mean, he was a 266 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: big part of those two teams. In two thousand, thirteen 267 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: and fourteen and the success that they had on the 268 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 1: ground and really revitalizing the running game. And I think 269 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: you've seen a very similar impact with Aaron Jones, Jamal 270 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: Williams and what they've done since two thousand seventeen. So 271 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: it is gonna be interesting, though, because there are gonna 272 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: be guys up there that could tempt packers. I mean, 273 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: you look at Swift. Swift is one of my favorite 274 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: guys in this draft class. He's just a little, you know, 275 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: brick house with you know, five ft eight two d 276 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: and twelve pounds. I mean, he brings everything you want 277 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: and like a power type back, especially with the low 278 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: center of gravity. He could be available. He could be interesting. 279 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: And certainly, Jonathan Taylor is a guy that Wisconsin sports 280 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: sports fans are really familiar with uh and had a 281 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: prolific career with the Badgers, and I think no matter 282 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: where it ends up, he's gonna make some teams running 283 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: game a lot better. For me though, when I look 284 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: at Green Bay, there's just you know, there's so many 285 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: positions we're gonna get to talking about them in the 286 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: next few days that I think can making an address 287 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: and immediate need out that you always draft for that. 288 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: But if there isn't one guy that maybe is a 289 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: top ten pick that falls to you, you know where 290 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: you find comparable players. I see it as a luxury 291 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: position right now. But that being said, it doesn't mean 292 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: that at some point during those three days you can't 293 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: find a guy to make that room better. Yeah, I 294 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: agree with you. I think I think running back is 295 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: a is a position that's on the priority list for 296 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: the Packers, but not necessarily in the first round, unless 297 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, you compare it to the Aaron Rodgers situation 298 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: of two thousand and five, unless one of these running 299 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: backs is just far and away the best player in 300 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: the draft and at the time that the Packers are 301 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: on the clock at thirty. Otherwise, I'm with you. Some 302 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: of these positions will be talking about as our preview 303 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: episodes continue. I think those are gonna be a little 304 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: bit higher on the priority list for the Packers. So 305 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: any final thoughts here on these couple of spots West 306 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: before we sign off, I'd be remiss. I have to 307 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: throw one more shutout for Ashwabinon's own. James Morgan, we 308 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: were talking about quarterbacks. You were asking about mid round guys, 309 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: potentially the guy the f i U quarterback Um certainly 310 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: has has done nothing but to improve his draft stock 311 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: over the past month two months, and especially during a 312 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: time Mike, if you look at a lot of these boards, 313 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: a lot of these pundits divorce have pretty much stayed 314 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: the same. There's no big pro days to wow anybody 315 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: or or any kind of things that are leaking out 316 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: that are making people look at Oh, this guy is 317 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: getting twenty five pre draft visit. So a guy like 318 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: Morgan doing the kind of steady escalation that he's had, 319 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: I think speaks a lot to his arm talent, a 320 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: lot to his ability, and if you talk to him, 321 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: he's a guy that knows how to carry himself, he 322 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: knows how to lead. And if you look at his 323 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: last season at f i U, I know, statistically it 324 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: wasn't as impressive as the previous here, but he also 325 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: battled through a lot of injuries to to stay on 326 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: the field for them, And I think watching his story unfold, 327 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: whether it would be Green Bay or otherwise, it's gonna 328 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: be really interesting because Green Bay not known as a 329 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: big area for developing NFL talent, especially at the quarterback position, 330 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: and here's a guy like James Morgan try to become 331 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: the first Green Bay Metro alumnus to be able to 332 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: get draft in the NFL in three decades. Yeah, I 333 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: think there will be a lot of folks in the 334 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: Green Bay area watching the draft, will be paying attention 335 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: to James Morgan and his story and where he ends 336 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: where he ends up because for a guy who is 337 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: not at a Power five conference, he's a quarterback who's 338 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: certainly getting a lot of attention his his story will 339 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: be fun to watch. So with that, we will sign 340 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: off on this edition of Packers Unscripted. We will continue 341 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: this draft preview series right now. We're looking at this 342 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: week next week Monday, Wednesday Friday kind of being our 343 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: our schedule if all goes well from a technology standpoint, 344 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: so we will do the best we can there For now, 345 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: for West, I am Mike. Thank you for tuning in everybody. 346 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: We will see you next time.