1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: Ron and Nanian. The cop was so and I guess 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: he was surprised to see this eighty five year old 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: guy with goggles and a little beat, Nick cap on 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Um driving a Stanley Steamer at sixty three. It's tend 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: to be quite a sight. And the Car Doctor and 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: Fred leaned over to him and he said, now, listen, 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: you make sure you write that miles per hour legible 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: on the ticket, because I'm gonna show that to my friends. 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: They're not gonna believe me. Welcome to the radio home 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: of Ron and Aian, the Car Doctor. Since this is 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: where car owners the world overturned to for their definitive 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a 13 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. The 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: garage doors are open, but I am here to take 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: your call. At eight five and now he running, Hey, 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: it's time to get together and talk about cars. That's 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: what the Car Doctor loves to do. Thanks for joining 18 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: me this hour, and let's get over to the phones 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: because there's a lot going on. I want to get 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: to each and every one of you. Let's go talk 21 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: to Tony in Long Is Accord. Tony, Welcome to the car. 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: Doctor sir, what's going on? Hi? Ron Pleasure speaking true 23 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: than you. I have a Navy eight record on the 24 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: original owner. Believe it in not the only hundred six 25 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: thousand miles. Holy bug potty. Now what happened last May May? 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: In May of nineteen Uh, damp days, she couldn't stop 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: got it. Told him he changed the distributor and the 28 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: y is fine for six months, work beautiful. Around October 29 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: of last year, Uh, engine light goes on. Uh she's 30 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: still started, still have no problem. But I brought it 31 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: in to get the tute with that was all about 32 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: and it was near closing time, so he really couldn't 33 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: get into great detail. But the I guess he put 34 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: the test on him whatever, and he said that it's misfiring. 35 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: You need to change the the wires. And at that point, 36 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm sayazon would just changed the wires there, and I 37 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: kind of lost confidence, you know, and uh, and he said, 38 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: you know it's it's misfiring. It could also maybe be 39 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: the injectors. Uh. He wasn't sure anyway, So I go 40 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: back home and uh rad curiosity. The next morning I 41 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: go to the car and damp day, she wouldn't start okay, great, 42 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: So out of curiosity, I went online and I just 43 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: typed in the Google mandate on the record. Uh, damp weather, 44 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: doesn't that start? So this guy comes on with a 45 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: video and he says, all you gotta do is take 46 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: a pad dryer, and he aimed on the coil and 47 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 1: but we were go not ron and then the car 48 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: runs beautiful. The only time I have a problem is 49 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: on a damp morning the first starting, regardless how much 50 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: it's raining the rest of the day, Uh, providing, I'm 51 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: not going to pop the car for twelve hours, you know, 52 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: But I mean going on a routine shopping. Uh. She 53 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 1: starts up, and my neighbors think I'm a nutshell. You 54 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: imagine me going out there with a hedge dry given life, 55 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: my bachelor Tony. If if you know it's the coil, 56 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: why aren't you changing the coil? All right? Well, I 57 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: don't know. It's no, but this is where I went happened. 58 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: So I called him back, and I don't know's I 59 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: explained to him. At first, I figured it's it's the distributive. 60 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: Maybe I need enough a distributed I was defected. It 61 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: wasn't made well or whatever, right, and uh so I 62 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: had told him on the phone. I said, I went 63 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: online and when I'm telling you right now, and he said, pop, 64 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: that's not the issue. That's not, dear Sue. He said, 65 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: it's it's something else that ain't, Thersue. And Tony, let 66 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: me ask you, Tony, let me ask you a question. 67 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait, wait wait, I'm sorry. Put from up 68 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: there real quick, and all the swath all this wild. 69 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: The engine lights remains on all the time. I don't 70 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: know if I mentioned that, didn't I think I did. 71 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: And you know to this day, every day the week, 72 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's always do. And it also even 73 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: stops even better in the most frigid weather you because 74 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: I gotta start. It starts even better than than moderate weather. 75 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: All right, hold on my turn. So so the check 76 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: engine light's been on? How long since he put the 77 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: distributor in the car? Yes? Or no answer? No? Said October. 78 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: He put the distributor in May, Okay. So since October 79 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: check engine lights on? Has he has he scanned it 80 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: for a fault code? Uh? Yes. I brought it down 81 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: to him that time and he did scan it and 82 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: what code was in there? And he said that it's misfiring. 83 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: He said, he doesn't know if it's the injective is 84 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: it's okay, so it's misfiring. Did he show you? Did 85 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: he show you a print out of the code that 86 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: he pulled? Okay? Does the car feel like it's misfiring? Alright? 87 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: Another thing that I should mention Also, I know you're 88 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: not gonna believe this, right, I got the original plugs 89 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: in there. Well, how many miles are on the car. Yeah, 90 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: that's that's that's not unbelievable. Sparks. Spark plugs don't go 91 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 1: bed that often. What I'm trying but what I'm trying 92 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: to get you off of is the internet says this. 93 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: He says that it's got to check engine light on. 94 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: Nobody has done any diagnosis. So this is sort of 95 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: like Tony, about two years from now, you're gonna get 96 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: an ache in your left knee. I want you to. 97 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: I want you to start taking this particular pill for it, 98 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: just in case. I mean, it makes as much sense 99 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: as doing that. So I want to print out all right, 100 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: scan print diagnose period alright, no rule, no rule. It 101 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: says there's only one fault with this vehicle, all right, 102 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: because of the age. If heating the coil or warming 103 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: the coil does make a difference. I would have put it. 104 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: I would have put a coil in it about six 105 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 1: months ago. Um and obviously I would get a Honda 106 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: piece because uh, these cars are very persnickety technical word, 107 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: all right. I would be also concerned that depending upon 108 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: whose distributor he used, what the what the what? The 109 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: quality level? Was my experience back in the day when 110 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: these cars were there were more of them that roamed 111 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: the land. It was we were either getting internal pieces 112 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: from Honda and rebuilding them on the bench, or we 113 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: were putting a Honda distributor in the car, and there 114 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: there was no substitute. And I don't care that the 115 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: Honda distributor is four in the aftermarket, one is two hundred. 116 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: The guys that spent the two hundred had all the 117 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: problems you're describing. And I'm not saying that's your problem. 118 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: Don't run out and change it. But I'm just trying 119 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: to make the point. It seems like in an age 120 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: where there are certain things the after market can't make, 121 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: Honda distributors is one of them, and it just seems 122 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: to be a problematic issue. That being said, get past 123 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: the distributor, get past the coil. Now I've got a 124 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: car that misfires. I just want to mention this and 125 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: then I'll let you go. So because of the age 126 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: of the car, because of what this is, and this 127 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: is where diagnosis comes in, and it's very important. All right, 128 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: a cold misfire. This is a cold misfire you're describing, right, Tony. 129 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: All but but it happens to you when when it's cold. Uh. 130 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: When you started telling problem happen on a wet day, 131 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: she won't start after that. She's okay, okay, when it 132 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: when it goes, when it goes hang, well, well, okay, 133 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: first things first, when it goes into the no start 134 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: on the wet day. Is anybody checking for spark anybody 135 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: does anybody check for spark to see what spark out is? 136 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: So wait a minute, and Tony, you know I love you. 137 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: So you're telling me that the guy on the internet 138 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: and iowas said, hey, it's a coil. Heat the coil 139 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: with with a hair dryer. You're taking that as a diagnosis. 140 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: But nobody's gonna go out there put a calibrated spark 141 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: plug into the wire and check to see if I've 142 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: got sparks something as simple as that. You're right, I mean, 143 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: you know you know what's funny. It's just two seconds 144 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: with the hair drying. I don't care. If it's three seconds, 145 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care if the hair dryer 146 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: walks out to the car, plugs itself in, heats it up, 147 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: and turns the key and warms your coffee for you. 148 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: If you want to diagnose it, you gotta art somewhere, 149 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: all right. So here's here's the deal, all right. I 150 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: mean you could do this, all right. I I barely 151 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: know you, and I think you're coordinated enough to chew 152 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: gum walk at the same time and diagnose you're not. 153 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: You're no. Start On a wet day, go down to 154 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: your local auto parts store. Tell the guy you want 155 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: to calibrated spark tester. You'll understand when you see it. 156 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: If you don't know what I'm talking about, it's gonna 157 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: be it's gonna be a fancy spark plug with an 158 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: alligator clip, or it's going to give you the ability 159 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: to pull a plug wire out. It'll attach with an 160 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: alligator clip the ground. You'll you'll you'll see spark jump 161 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: across the gap. It will tell you what to rest 162 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: or what stress the ignition system can deal with as 163 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: to whether or not I'll be able to start the 164 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: car and keep the car running. All right, Now, when 165 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: you get into this no start condition, go out, pop 166 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: a wire, pock it up. Do you have spark? It's 167 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: a yes or no answer. It's not based on Iowa, 168 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: a hair dryer's rain, the color of the moon, the 169 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: tide is rising, and what you had for dinner last night. 170 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: None of that stuff won't matter. Trust me, all right, 171 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: trust me, okay, I know, so you know. That's where 172 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: I want you to be. Now, when you get the 173 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: spark tester, alright, if it's the calibrated style with numbers 174 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: on it, set it to about thirty thousand's you'll understand 175 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: when you see it. Do the test on on the 176 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: car when it's working. Why do I tell you to 177 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: test something when it's working, Because if we test things 178 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: when they're broken, if we don't know what good looks like, 179 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: we won't know what bad looks like. All right, that's 180 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: your that's your assignment this week. Call me back next week. 181 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: Let me know what happens. That's it. Yes or no? 182 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: Good luck? Tony eight eight hundred eight five zero nine 183 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: zero zero. I knew there was a hundred in there 184 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: somewhere zero running any of the car Doctor. We're back 185 00:10:55,360 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: right after this the knock up to the hand. That's 186 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: all right with me, welcome back, wanting any of the 187 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: car doctor. Eight five five five zero nine nine zero zero. 188 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: You know, Tom, and I know you can hear me. Tom. 189 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: You know you know what we haven't done, and I 190 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: keep meaning to do this. I've got the greatest little 191 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: uh T shirt hat or something. Well, we could go 192 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: we we could go play the ponies. But um, with 193 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: with my luck, I it doesn't matter. Um, we gotta 194 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: give away that p B Blaster T shirt and hat 195 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: and and goody bits. Let's see if we can find 196 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: somebody to give away. To this hour, it's sitting here 197 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: on the prize desk and I'm trying to clear out 198 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: the closet for the next round of whatever. So let's uh, 199 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: let's I'll leave that up to you. You're in charge 200 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: of that. If you find somebody that uh, you know, 201 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: if it's any it's it's any size they want, Tom, 202 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: as long as it's extra large, you know. It's it's 203 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: like it's like it's it's like the model T of 204 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: T shirts that's always well, it's universal size. But Henry 205 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: Ford said that you know you can get them. You 206 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: can get a model tea in any color you want, 207 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: as long as it's black. And uh, you know that's 208 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: the way the story goes. So let's get over to 209 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: John and Saratoga, New York, fifty and some problems with 210 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: the high speed cooling fans. John, Welcome to the car, doctor, sir, 211 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: how can I help? Well, just like you said, for fifty, 212 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: it's got the five point engine in it. And uh, 213 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: about two months ago I had a coolant flush and 214 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: the mechanics said, my my water pump was on its 215 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: way out. It was was seasoned up a little bit, 216 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: so he changed that. About two days later, I noticed, 217 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: when I'm driving probably five or six mile drive, the 218 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: fan comes on. It sounds like an airplane. I've never 219 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: had that before, so it shot me. So I drive 220 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: the mile to the shop and he's in there basket 221 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: and he comes out and he goes, oh, that happens 222 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: when it gets up to temperatures sometimes, but this was 223 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: cold weather too and noisy, so I thought it was 224 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: a little weird. And I said okay, whatever, and I 225 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: went about my business and this time went on, I 226 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: don't drive it that office. I mean a job about 227 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: thirty miles a week, maybe end a thing. But it 228 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: seemed odd and I didn't, you know, but I just 229 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: believed him, you know, and he's a knowledgeable guy, and 230 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: I believe so. But then I said, you know, this 231 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: isn't right. It sounded you go through a drive through 232 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: or you go through a parking lot and the people 233 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: stare at you like you're like you are coming in 234 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: with an airplane. So I um end up taking it 235 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: to another mechanic I'd used before, and he uh said, 236 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: you know what, might have something to do with the 237 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: A C lines of the pressure or whatever. So he 238 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: checked the lines and they were low. So we did 239 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: a service on the cool Are they the free on 240 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: or whatever? And then he I drove it up parking lot, 241 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: drove home and it started again, but I took it 242 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: back and he heard the fan on high this time 243 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: and said, WHOA, that is something. So he diagnosed. He 244 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: said it was the private the the censor for the 245 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: A C the pressure sensor. So he changed it, changed 246 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: that out, drove it home again, did the same thing. 247 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: And he started wondering about other things. So he said, 248 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: you know what, well you had that that water pump 249 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: changed by that guy. So he goes out, maybe it's 250 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: air bound and whatever. He says, feeling hoses. He's doing 251 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: other things, starts taking the temperature and his kind his 252 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: scanner and doing all those things, and he says, well, 253 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: the top holes is hot, in the bottom hoses is cool. 254 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: I mean it's cool. It's like way cool, and it 255 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: should be. And he keeps it. He evacuates the system 256 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: or with a vacuum pump and does all plugs off, everything, 257 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: does all the stuff of the cooling system. He says, 258 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: it seems to be working fine, but it's still hot 259 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: cool over here. He goes, I don't know where the 260 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: heat's going. He goes, and that's as far as I 261 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: can get you. He goes, You've got to go to 262 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: somebody else. So let me ask that's where I lie. 263 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: So let's let's start at the beginning. The first thing 264 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: I want to do here is I want to check 265 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: engine temperature is and I want to do this by 266 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: scan tool. I you know, I'll use a thermal imager 267 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: in the shop to find something that's maybe superheated or overheated. 268 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: But when I'm dealing with something this precise um, it 269 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: doesn't matter to me what the actual temperature is. I 270 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: want to see what the computer that's crolling the device 271 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: is perception is of what the temperature is. If that 272 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: makes sense, you know, I could I can look. I 273 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: can look at it on a thermal imagere and the 274 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: thermal imager or the infrared gun tells me that engine 275 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: temperature is agrees. But if I plug in a scan 276 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: tool and the scan tool says two degrees, then why 277 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: is the computer interpreting something different than what it actually is? 278 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: If you get my meanings, so you know, let's let's 279 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: let's let's look at what does the computer see for 280 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: engine temp? All right? Is it is it coming up 281 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: to speed? Is it doing what it's supposed to be. 282 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: If engine temp is okay, then yeah, then the a 283 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: high pressure sensor is a known failure where if it 284 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: if it's out of range, or if the voltage is incorrect, 285 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: it will cause the high fan to run all the time. 286 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: All right, Now, it's a simple test. You can check 287 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: the voltage on a scan tool with the end with 288 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: the a C not running, the voltage will be around 289 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: a volt. If you have voltage higher than three volts, 290 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: the fans are gonna come on. If the voltage is 291 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: high and the a C isn't running, either the sensor 292 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: has failed or the yellow violet circuit, which is signal 293 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: return back to the PCM has an issue. But again, 294 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: if I look at it, if I look at it 295 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: on a scan tool and the scan tool says the 296 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: a C high pressure input signal is three and a 297 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: half vaults, and I measured it at the censor and 298 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: the sensor reads two volts, I've either I'm either inducing 299 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: voltage somewhere or I've got a bad PCM. Does that 300 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: make sense. I'm just trying to get everybody away from 301 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to get everybody. Yeah, you know, 302 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: take the part out of the car, take the component 303 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,479 Speaker 1: out of the car, break it down into the simplest, 304 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: most basic of of of whatever setting you can. All right, 305 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: that being said, all right, if if we want to 306 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: go back to the problem started after the water pump, 307 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: all right, maybe the engine is right, well, maybe the 308 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: engine is really overheating. And you know, here's a case 309 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: of That's why I don't care what a thermal immature, 310 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: a heat gun or whatever, tells me? What does the 311 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: computer think? UM, I don't remember if this is the 312 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: truck or not. I don't remember. If it's possible. Is 313 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: the water pump spinning the wrong way because the belts 314 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: on backwards? M And I've seen that, and I can't remember. 315 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: If I can't remember if this is the truck, is 316 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: there a way to put that belt on and spin 317 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: the pump the wrong direction? Good question? Good question? And 318 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: that way I get. That's I kind of do that 319 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: once in a while. UM. And that's why I want 320 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: to know, you know, with regard to UM, you know, 321 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: is it going the right way? Felt on the right way? 322 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: What's engine temp? You know? Forget the fans running. If 323 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: that vehicle has been properly burped, purged, and all the 324 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: airs out of it, I gotta have a hot hose 325 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: top and bottom. If I don't, I've got a circulation 326 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: issue of some kind. Comes back to basics. Don't get 327 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: too deep into the diagnosis, John, get the basics and 328 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: we'll go from there. Call me back if you need 329 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: more five zero zero zero run any of the car 330 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: doctor back at your service right after this. Need advice 331 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: on how they're maintaining that classic g T O. Ron 332 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: is the guy eight five five five zero nine zero zero. 333 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: Here's Ron. Let's get over to David in Iowa. David, 334 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: welcome back, sir. What's going on? What's on your mom 335 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: this weekend? What's got? What you got? You know? I'm 336 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: just wondering you mention these, you know, and uh uh, 337 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: I just wondering that maybe one of your days we 338 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: don't even need a driver in there, you know, if 339 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: they're kind of all that kind of stuff, they're there 340 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: now where they don't need a driver. Listen, I can 341 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: tell you what I can tell you, no pun intend that. 342 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: I can tell you what's driving this this need or 343 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: association towards you know, advanced driver assist systems and automatic 344 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: driver and automatic park is accidents. They're they're working, they're 345 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: looking to eliminate the potential for accidents. Imagine a world 346 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: where accidents are cut by Those are the numbers they're 347 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: talking about. You know, they're they're talking about vehicles. If 348 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: if every vehicle was an a DOS equipped vehicle, advanced 349 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: driver assistant, where it was self driving, self steering, automatic 350 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: park you wouldn't need traffic lights. You wouldn't have traffic, 351 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: all right, because in in theory, there would be no right, 352 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: what's the worst thing that happens, There's an accident on 353 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: the side of the road and everybody has to stop 354 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: and look. All right, in a in a perfect society, 355 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: everything's going to be controlled by the computer, and the 356 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 1: cars will zip along at fifty mile, narrowly missing each other, 357 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: but never colliding because the computer is in complete control. Well, 358 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: this I'm gonna cost bron I mean, you know, the 359 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: price of the cars are pretty high right in on 360 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: That's right. God, they started putting on that stuff in there. 361 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: But David understand, as as George pointed out our our 362 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: interview in the previous hour today, that the cars have 363 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: had it for the last twenty years, predominantly in the 364 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: States since so it's it's already there. That's why the 365 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: cost of cars is. That's part of the reason why 366 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: the cost of cars is high. I'll tell you what. 367 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the bigger concern is. The bigger 368 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: concern is now with the quarantine and the pandemic and 369 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: the way the car companies are shut down. Somebody said, 370 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: and this was this was my guy Eddie goidas good 371 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: as capital um that Ford is burning through. Was it 372 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: a hundred and ten million a day? I think it 373 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: was a hundred and ten million dollars a day. Maybe 374 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: it's a week, but I thought it was a day 375 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: hundred ten million dollars a day because they're not selling 376 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: any cars. Tom was telling me at the beginning of 377 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: the show today he was down the New Jersey Turnpike 378 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: this week on a on a service call for a 379 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: transmitter he had to take care of, and he said, 380 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: the cars are piled up in Port Newark like he's 381 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: never seen. They're not selling any cars. And the the 382 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: issue is the next step you're gonna see is cash 383 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: for clunkers. They're gonna try and bring back a cash 384 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: for clunkers program where you're going to you know, push 385 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: toe drive, shove your dollar amount a couple of thousand 386 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: bucks for a car that's worth ten cents a fixed 387 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: dollar amount a couple of chew into a new vehicle, 388 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 1: and then they're going to put you into a new 389 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: vehicle that you probably or may not be able to 390 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: afford given the current economic climate out there, but that 391 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: will put more a does vehicles out into the world 392 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: that will eliminate a huge supply of older cars when 393 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: it comes time for used parts, and will roll merrily along. 394 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: Where it's gonna hurt is the auto repair industry, which 395 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: is already reeling from the pandemic, is now going to 396 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: have less business. So we're going to sacrifice one industry, 397 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: one end of the industry for the other because they 398 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: the government wants to get the car companies back to work, 399 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: because the bigger picture is if they've got if they're 400 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: selling cars, they're building cars, they've got more employees than 401 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: the repair side. I could debate that, but uh, you know, 402 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: these are the things that drive all this stuff, David. 403 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: It's not that somebody gets up one day and well 404 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 1: maybe it is, but you know, they get up one 405 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: day and they say, hey, here's the world we're going 406 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: to create. Here's the reason why, you know. But it's 407 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: because they're they've got their reason, and that is they're 408 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: trying to you know, safer, you know, more efficient, lower 409 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: insurance premiums, no accidents. Would another reason be that we're 410 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: getting kind of overpopulated. I mean, you know, with all 411 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: the medical stuff and uh, certain parts, I think, yeah, 412 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: listen again, you know what twenty years from now, people 413 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: are not going to know what it is to get 414 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: in a car and go for a Sunday drive. They 415 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: barely know that now, you know that I did. I 416 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:56,479 Speaker 1: did a two thousand Silorado the other day. I had 417 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand miles or I gave two hundred bucks 418 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: for it, took it home, planed all the dirt and 419 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: desk off of it. Looks like a brand new truck. Well, 420 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: I actually right, and you got a good deal, and 421 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: you know what, and now you'll go ahead for a 422 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: Sunday ride, you know, David. It's it boggles my mind 423 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: that I'm not picking on the younger generation, and it 424 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: sounds like I'm old. I guess I'm getting old that 425 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: they don't want to get their driver's license. Young kids 426 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: today don't want to get their driver's license. And and 427 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: that's sad because to me, that was a rite of passage. 428 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: That was that was the moment of coming of age. 429 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't video games, it wasn't much of 430 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: anything else. It was I got my license, I could 431 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: afford a car. And you know, everybody'll say cars are 432 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: so expensive today. You know what, horse hockey, all right, 433 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: everything's relative to a large degree. There's there's there's yeah, 434 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: there's Listen, there's always a way to find a car. 435 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: You work a couple of jobs, you make it work. 436 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: But my point becomes, uh, my, my point becomes that 437 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: you know, we're going to lose the ability to have 438 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: fun and what cars represent. Cars above all else, represent freedom, 439 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: and they represent the ability to go where you want, 440 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: when you want. And that's what's going to be lost 441 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: on this next generation. So yep, David, I gotta go. 442 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: I gotta pull over and take a pause. But as always, sir, 443 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: it's a pleasure to talk to you, and you keep on, 444 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: you keep on calling, and we thank you for your support. 445 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: All right, you take good care nine zero zero or 446 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: on any of the car Doctor. We are back right 447 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back ran the name of the car doctor. 448 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: Let's get over to Andrew when Plattsburgh, New York O 449 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: sixth Grand Caravan Andrew, Welcome to the car Doctor, sir, 450 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: how can I help Hey, thank you very much for 451 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: taking my call. Um about three months ago, uh, the 452 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: passenger side, uh straw assembly on my my van broke 453 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: and ever since then, um, I've had a noise in 454 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: the front of my van. It's like a clunking or 455 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: a funking noise every time I come to a complete stop, 456 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: and then every time that I take off. And we 457 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: changed the the straw assemblies on both sides of the car. 458 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: We've changed the ball joint and the lower control arm 459 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: assembly on the driver's side of the car, and the 460 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: sway bar by links on the driver's side of the car, 461 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: and it's it's still making that noise. Every time I 462 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: come to a complete stop, it makes like a funk 463 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: or clunk and uh and and sometimes it happens when 464 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: I turned. That's why we were thinking maybe ball joints 465 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: or sway bar links, but that hasn't fixed it either. 466 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: And uh. We we just keep fixing one thing after another. 467 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: And we have the lower control him in ball joint 468 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: for the passenger side coming and both CV joints coming, 469 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: and we're gonna try to fix those next. Okay, hold on, 470 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: hold up a second here, Andrew so up. Until whatever 471 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 1: it was two months ago, the fron end was quiet. 472 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this my van is it runs like the top. 473 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: I bought it with only about seventy thousand miles on it. Um. 474 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 1: I take good care of it. I change anything that breaks, 475 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: and and I changed the oil early every time. And 476 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: what what what happened? What happened the strut broke or 477 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: the strut was leaking? What made you change the strut? 478 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: The spring on it snapped and h it was it 479 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: was like resting on my tire. Actually had to call 480 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: a buddy of mine who had a flatbad become and 481 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: taken got it. And then what did you do? You 482 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,120 Speaker 1: put in loaded strut assemblies. You put in the whole 483 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: strut and spring assembly together, Yes, sir, the path kit 484 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: that that comes with out assembly first because it broke. 485 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: But and we did the passage. We did the driver 486 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: side first because it broke. But and and that's when 487 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: we noticed the sound. So we changed the whole assembly 488 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: on the on the passenger side too. And then like 489 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: I said, we did the ball joint. Well but wait 490 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: a minute, wait wait wait wait wait. So so the noise, 491 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: the noise the driver's side spring broke. You change the 492 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: driver's side strutt and spring as an assembly. You drove 493 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: it changed nothing else, and that's when you noticed the noise. 494 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: That's when the noise started happening. Okay, what makes you 495 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: think that it's not a bad new strut. I don't know. 496 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: I guess I just assumed that it, uh you know, 497 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: would come to you know, from the factory in in 498 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: good working order. Um, we've looked at it since and 499 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: there's no breaks or anything like that that leads us 500 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: to believe that it's that making the noise. Andrew, do 501 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: you know what news stands for? Uh? No, Well, I 502 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: I guess new men new means never ever worked, all right, 503 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: So you know, never assume. I can't tell you why 504 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: here on family radio, but you know, assume as a 505 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: bad word, and new is a bad word. However, one 506 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: of the things I want you to look at is 507 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: the Now, this is a No. Six. So the top 508 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: of the strut is under the cowl area. Correct. You 509 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: can't get to it readily without pulling the front tray out. 510 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: Uh No. The assembly connects to the top of like 511 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: three bolts, right, But do you have access to those 512 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: three bolts? Can you get a clear shot at those 513 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: three bolts? Okay? You know the center nut that's that's 514 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: holding the strut in. Do you have a cordless impact 515 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: or an impact gun? I don't don't, but my mechanic does. Okay, 516 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: ask him to kiss that nut. Just just put the 517 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: gun on it and give it a little Make sure 518 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: you're going in the right direction. We want to tighten. 519 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: Just a touch, just a touch. I see this a lot. 520 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: I doesn't. It doesn't matter. We can, we can mention brands. 521 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: I can tell you stories about all different kinds of 522 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: after market struts um when we have to use them. 523 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: I've seen more than a few where you just kiss 524 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: that nut, just give it a little tap, all right. 525 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: For that matter, look at the number of threads on 526 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: the driver's side struts center not and the passenger side 527 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: threads center not. Count the count the number of threads. 528 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: All of a sudden you realize the driver's side is 529 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: two threads, the passenger side is three and a half. 530 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: You go, uh. You know there's no rule that says 531 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: everything got assembled and tightened correctly. All right, So before 532 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: before we start changing a pile aparts, let's go back 533 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: to where we were. Let's try and be logical. If 534 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: you do, you hear the noise driver's side or the 535 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: noises nondescript as far as location. To me, it feels 536 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: like it's coming right from under me on the driver's side. 537 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: But when someone sits in the passenger side, they think 538 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: it's coming from that side. Okay, well, then you need 539 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: to sit in the passenger side while somebody's driving and 540 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: see if you have the same experience. You have to 541 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: become the consistent factor. If you feel a driver's side, 542 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: somebody needs to drive the car and you sit in 543 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: the passenger side, don't count on that other person's perception. 544 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: Your perception is the most important because you know what 545 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: it feels like. Here, go sit over there, all right. 546 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many arguments Danny and I 547 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 1: get what we used to get into until I realized 548 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: what it was. Ron and the noises in the back, 549 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: Danny the noises in the front, and then we'd switch 550 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: places and there'd be Danny, the noises in the back, 551 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: run the noises in the front. You know it's it's 552 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: it's perceptions reality, all right. The other thing, the last 553 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: thing I want you to think about and look at. 554 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: Could you have a loose steering rack? Is the rack 555 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: loose on its bushings or mounts? Could the rack be rolling? 556 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: All right? But I want you to go back to 557 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: if it if it was at that moment when it happened, 558 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: where the you know the noise started right after that 559 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: left front strut. I want you to think about that 560 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: left front strut. Could that be a problem? All right? 561 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: Do that? Call me back if you need more. I 562 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: gotta go him up against the clock. And by the way, Andrews, 563 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: stay on the line. Get let's give Tom your information. 564 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna be sending out that P B. Blaster goody 565 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: bag courtesy the folks at p B. Blaster hat, T 566 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: shirt and a few other odds and ends in the bag, 567 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: and we hope you enjoy it and have yourself a 568 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: good summer. So you stay put for that. I'm running 569 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: any of the car doctor. We are back right after 570 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: this car doctor, we're back. Let's go to Carol in 571 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: New Jersey. Carol, welcome aboard. How can I help um? 572 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: I'm the original owner of Audi A four. I'm sorry, 573 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: can you hear me? Yes, ma'am, I'm the original owner 574 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: of the Audi A four. I have a hundred and 575 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: sixty miles on the car. When did it start? It's 576 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: so is burned oil from the get go. Um, every 577 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: five thousand miles I'm in and they usually fill it 578 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: with new oil. And I'm on my way. Well, something 579 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: changed back in UH February, I had to have a camp. 580 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: They sealed the cam carrier and replaced upper timing. That 581 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: was because the oil light came on and I had 582 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: just been in there. Now I'm in there again and 583 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: they tell me that I need new pistons and rings. 584 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: I'm at the point where I'd like to buy a 585 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: twenty nine. But I was doing some research and found 586 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: that there was a class action suit on a two 587 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: outie regarding this oil issue. So do they still have 588 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: that oil issue even with the newer models. I can't 589 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: comment on a nineteen. I can tell you I just 590 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: spoke to someone last week with an eighteen. It's having 591 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: an issue, and you know, they went. They told me 592 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: that they got to about thirty four thousand miles on 593 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: the car, and all of a sudden, it started going 594 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: through a court every five hundred miles. So you know 595 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: in my in my eyes that you know, if they 596 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: can't resolve it after all this time, it sounds like 597 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: it's a car to stay away from. I give you 598 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: a lot of credit. I don't know that I would. 599 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: I don't know that I would. You know, want to 600 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: continue to drive and go back to a car you've 601 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: got a hundred sixty thousand miles out of it. But 602 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: if you if you've been adding a quart of oil 603 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: every couple of five hundred thousand miles, Uh, you know, 604 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: it becomes Yeah, you're right. It seems like they should 605 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: be able to fix it, and it comes time for 606 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: a change. The other issue that I have heard with 607 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: regards that it's beyond pistons and rings, that there's also 608 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: conversation out there on the eighteen anyway, is that there's 609 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 1: talk about problems with the turbo charger and the turbos 610 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: are causing oil consumption too. So, um, you know, the 611 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: issues sort of comes Carol, de enjoy the car. If 612 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: you enjoy the car, and you're going to have AUDI 613 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: service it, and they've been taking care of you up 614 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: to this point. Yeah, the question is where what's the 615 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: cost factor? All right? And there's other cars out there 616 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: to pick from. There are other choices something that will 617 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: give you a comparable ride. So I think you've got 618 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: to do your homework. Um, I think you've got to 619 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: be cautious because yes, to my knowledge, they still have 620 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: some forms of an issue. Um uh in my mind 621 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: across the board, good luck to you. I'm not anating 622 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: in the car. Doctor reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, 623 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: they're priceless. Let's see that