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Speaker 1: In the Lab, a Texans podcast that takes a different

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Speaker 1: look at things. Drew Doherty and John Harris have their

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Speaker 1: lab coats and goggles on and the Bunsen burners burning.

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Speaker 1: Here's Drew.

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Speaker 2: How much fun is this? Texans are in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: We're getting ready for a big game against the Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns this Saturday. Drew here, Thanks for listening. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: you taking some time out of your day for night

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Speaker 2: to listen to this. Okay, here's what we got on

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Speaker 2: the show today. I'm gonna go back and forth with

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Speaker 2: John Harris. We have a what if I told you?

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Speaker 2: We also have our Cream of the Crop award winners

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Speaker 2: to be So who's gonna be the guy that shines

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Speaker 2: on Saturday against the Browns. We got our choices and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna wrap things up and then we're gonna seed

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Speaker 2: things over to Jerry Hughes, the defensive end. Got wacky

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Speaker 2: with me last week. This is a timeless interview. Can

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Speaker 2: kind of go up now, can go up really anytime,

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Speaker 2: but fun stuff with Jerry. He answered a few questions,

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Speaker 2: just got wacky. Then we talk with our good pal

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Speaker 2: Max Lobe. He hosts the dog Check podcast. It's all

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Speaker 2: about the Browns. He does so with Eric Metcalf, a

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Speaker 2: former Cleveland brown, a former Longhorn, one of the most

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Speaker 2: electric players I've ever watched in my life. So Max

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Speaker 2: had some good stuff to talk about with this Browns matchup.

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Speaker 2: We did it again after doing it about three weeks

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Speaker 2: ago before the Christmas Eve Day game, but a lot's

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Speaker 2: changed since then for both teams, as Max will point out,

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Speaker 2: but we always got to remind you. Please, please, please

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Speaker 2: this notification every time. We're ready to rock, and we

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Speaker 2: have a new one on Wednesdays. So let's get rock

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Speaker 2: and let's get rolling, and let's talk with John Harris. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it is time. John. You know what we're not doing

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Speaker 2: right now. We're not interviewing our counterparts from other cities saying, Hey,

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Speaker 2: what can you tell me about ever Roa Jiro? Hey,

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Speaker 2: what makes what makes Jonathan Gannon a leader of men? Hey?

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Speaker 2: Why would hines Ward be a good head coaching choice

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Speaker 2: even though he's never been a head coach at any

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Speaker 2: level here for the Houston Texans? How sweet is that?

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Speaker 2: And I don't mean to like because everything else has

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Speaker 2: been covered about how phenomenal this season has been, how

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Speaker 2: thrilling this last weekend was. And I say weekend because

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Speaker 2: Sunday was pretty damned fun too, you know, in that

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Speaker 2: delirium of standing up so late and get home so

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Speaker 2: late and then seeing the Titans take care of the Jags.

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Speaker 2: But I just it's the perspective of things, because we

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Speaker 2: have been shell shocked from twenty twenty one in twenty two,

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Speaker 2: and to have such a flip is just delicious. We're

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Speaker 2: not focused on the draft yet, we don't know where

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Speaker 2: the Texans are picking. Texans win this weekend, they might

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Speaker 2: have a better way. They will have a better draft

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Speaker 2: pick than the Cleveland Browns will, or really the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: will because they have the Cleveland Browns draft pick. It's

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Speaker 2: just so wonderful that at least for one more week,

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Speaker 2: you don't have to talk about any of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: And you're certainly not gonna have to talk about anything

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Speaker 2: coaching wise, head coaching wise, because Demico has been mouth

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Speaker 2: to mouth resuscitation for this franchise. But yeah, one more time.

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Speaker 2: How delicious is this week? Right now?

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Speaker 3: I I'm kind of out of loss for words in

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Speaker 3: some sense.

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Speaker 1: True.

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Speaker 4: I mean, as you were going through those things, I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, I put the prayer hands up, like thank you.

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Speaker 4: I've gone to three straight Senior Bowls, in which when

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Speaker 4: I was at the Senior Bowl at two of them.

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Speaker 4: At two of them, our coach was named, or there

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Speaker 4: were rumors of our coach being named. Demiko was actually

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Speaker 4: I was in Mobile. I was in Mobile listening to

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Speaker 4: to everybody breakdown to candidates and then hearing, Okay, it's

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Speaker 4: going to be David Kully as the head coach. The

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Speaker 4: we still don't have a coach was twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 4: But I'm Lovey Smith uge So I've chosen to stay

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Speaker 4: down at Dauphine Island because we can kind of get

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Speaker 4: It's basically like a commute in Houston, so it's no

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Speaker 4: where was where was Forrest Gump from uh.

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Speaker 2: Green Bow, Alabama?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Where was uh? Where was Bubba from Bia buya

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Speaker 3: la battery?

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Speaker 4: We drive, You got to drive through by a La battery,

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Speaker 4: then to go through the Alabama towns.

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Speaker 3: And so I'm driving through these small Alabama towns.

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Speaker 4: There's a Dollar General, there's our favorite like gas station

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Speaker 4: plus grocery store called Careers, and I'm listening to them

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Speaker 4: would come on and he was like, how crazy is this?

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Speaker 4: And all these different things are happening, and then it

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Speaker 4: comes to is Lovey Smith?

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Speaker 3: And that happened when I got back.

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Speaker 4: But two of the three years, a coach was named

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Speaker 4: while I'm at the Senior Bowl, So I don't even

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Speaker 4: get a chance to meet Tomko until we get to Indianapolis,

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Speaker 4: ironically for the combine. That's the first time that I

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Speaker 4: met Tomiko was in Indianapolis when we never you never

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Speaker 4: met him as a player, I never met as a player. Okay,

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Speaker 4: met him as a player. So learn something new about

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Speaker 4: you today, Yeah, exactly. Hopefully I've kind of you know,

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Speaker 4: made up time. But that's that's sole fact. Kind of

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Speaker 4: knew that for a while and figured and hope that

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Speaker 4: if it went well, that you know, we wouldn't have

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Speaker 4: to think about a GM hire or head coach hire

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Speaker 4: for for a while. And hopefully that's the case. But

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Speaker 4: just to you, Drew, you just said it perfectly did

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Speaker 4: not have to. Hey tell us about is Isiro ever?

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Speaker 4: Hey tell us about you know, Josh McCown. Why why

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Speaker 4: do you think Josh McCown would be a good hire

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Speaker 4: though he's never coached and all that, all that, all

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Speaker 4: that noise that went with it. It's like it's like

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Speaker 4: somebody just walked over, well, actually it was the McNair

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Speaker 4: we don't need that noise anymore. And now all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden you can build an organization going forward in

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Speaker 4: the way that the McNair family would like, the way

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Speaker 4: that Cal Hannah and uh Cale's mother Janis would like,

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Speaker 4: welling forward with positivity, with people that believe in each other,

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Speaker 4: people that love each other, and a team that is

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Speaker 4: going to be representative of I think about this team

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Speaker 4: a lot.

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Speaker 3: Drew that.

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Speaker 4: Bob would have loved this team. Oh yeah, he would

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Speaker 4: have loved this team. He would have loved everything about

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Speaker 4: this team. And it's just been I think when he

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Speaker 4: drew up what he wanted the Texans to be, this

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Speaker 3: This is the team that he he thought about.

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Speaker 4: And the fact that Demiko and Nick have as the

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Speaker 4: phrase I would like to use, all yours, We'll figure

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Speaker 4: it out. They figured things out, how to work together,

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Speaker 4: how to get the right pieces in place, how to

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Speaker 4: take pieces that you've got and make them work better.

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Speaker 3: It's been it's been an incredible ride.

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Speaker 4: But you know the other thing is, you know we're

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Speaker 2: When they're a very games.

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Speaker 4: At home, and I'm say, I'm gonna love this one

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Speaker 4: final verbal bomb at all the the uh draft geeks

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Speaker 4: and nerds, and well, you don't trade a future pick

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Speaker 4: when it's gonna be number two or number three in

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Speaker 3: What do you do in Houston's so dumb.

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Speaker 4: Nope, we drafted elite talent and number two and at

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Speaker 4: number three. We drafted elite leaders at number two and

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Speaker 4: number three, And Nick and the personnel staff and the

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Speaker 4: Miko and the coaching staff came through with a draft

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Speaker 4: that will always remember. Guys that contributed up and down

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Speaker 4: the draft, all the way throughout, that made huge plays.

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Speaker 4: So all you, as you said, Drew, all you suckers

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Speaker 4: went on Saturday. I guess who's drafting in front of US?

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Speaker 4: US drafting in front of every the Arizona Cardinals who

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Speaker 4: have the pick. So sorry Arizona. I kind of like Arizona.

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Speaker 4: I'll be honest. I like what Jonathan Gannon's done. I

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Speaker 4: think he's done a really good job. I think Moni's

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Speaker 4: done a goodjob bringing into plays.

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Speaker 3: It fit.

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Speaker 4: Sure, they got young oc good DC. So this really

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Speaker 4: has nothing to do with Arizona. Arizona made a deal

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Speaker 4: I'd make that deal if I'm Arizona's a good deal

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Speaker 4: for Arizona. It just worked out that we got an

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Speaker 4: elite talent in Will Anderson, and an elite leader and

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Speaker 4: as close to one hundred percent as he can be

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Speaker 4: he did up in India, I think he's gonna try

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Speaker 4: and give it a go and do what he can.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you'll take that. You'll take that over, take

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Speaker 2: it over. What what is behind him? Is the big

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Speaker 2: boom goes on behind ye? Yeah, we'll get into that

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Speaker 2: a little bit later. But we got to do a

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Speaker 2: what if I told you? What if I told you

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Speaker 2: because win in dramastic, as Scottie Pippen would say, not dramatic,

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Speaker 2: not drastic, but dramastic fashion twenty three to nineteen, John,

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Speaker 2: if I told you the Texans we're gonna have uh,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna allow safety. What if I told you I

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Speaker 2: told you that around seven o'clock, right before kickoff at

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Speaker 2: seven fifteen the other what if I told you, Hey, John,

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Speaker 2: you know we haven't had a one hundred yard rusher

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Speaker 2: against this all season long. Well, our guy Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 2: is going to tote the rock thirty times for one

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty eight and they're gonna get two two

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Speaker 2: seven on the ground as a team. You wouldn't have

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Speaker 3: I would not have. Yeah, I could not have.

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Speaker 2: On top of that, John, Texans are gonna also lose

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Speaker 2: time of possession, which, hey, Mike Leach, if I'd asked

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Speaker 2: him about time, it's the stupidest stat, most miningless stat.

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Speaker 2: There is no I will. I'd rather win the scoreboard

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Speaker 2: than the time. Anyways, Rest in peace, coach. What if

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Speaker 2: I had told you those three things? You give up

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Speaker 2: a safety, you allow two two seven on the ground.

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Speaker 2: Two to seven is also a fun sitcom on Saturday

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Speaker 2: Night on NBC back in the eighties. Second uh, and

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Speaker 2: kind of reaching for things that didn't go your way.

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Speaker 2: But what if I'd have told you those things?

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Speaker 4: If I told you, I would have said that we

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Speaker 4: It would have absolutely been locker clear out Day. I

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Speaker 3: It's like one of those things like, oh, damn, it's good.

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Speaker 4: And then it was just all happening all at once.

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Speaker 4: But then Texas went down and scored and kicked the field.

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Speaker 4: That's when you'd started stopping him. You forced the field

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Speaker 4: Now we can go in around ten leive twelve and

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Speaker 3: And the Texans definitely did.

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Speaker 2: Man, it's great minds thinking alike, because I can't it

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Speaker 2: a It might have been Desmond because he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: It felt like a heavyweight fight, and it was so

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Speaker 3: Here we go and.

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Speaker 2: Let's set the table and let's remind folks everyone knows. CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud didn't play in the first one. Will Anderson did

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Speaker 2: not play in the first one. Jonathan Garnard played three

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Speaker 2: Grenard and two other just killers from around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember who the other two are, but they

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Speaker 2: He's been having a fun time. Lake Cashman's back, he's playing.

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Speaker 2: He was out against the Browns, so there's lots of

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, with all these things in mind, with a Saturday

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Speaker 2: to be talking about? This was our Cream of the

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Speaker 2: Crop award winner, John Who's going to have a day

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm going to pick a guy.

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Speaker 4: And part of this is emotional, okay, part of this

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Speaker 4: is retribution, okay. And that man's name is Jalen Petrie.

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Speaker 4: All right, I like against the Browns when a Mario

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Speaker 3: So Jalen didn't.

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Speaker 4: Play a lot of that game, and when we played

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Speaker 4: like eighteen or nineteen plays over the next couple of weeks,

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Speaker 4: I've seen a different Jalen Petrie. It composed, under control,

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Speaker 4: was perfect. He got in his position, he didn't he

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Speaker 4: I think Jalen Petrie can be a big, big figure.

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Speaker 4: Now he's gonna have to cover in Djoku at certain times.

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Speaker 4: And I know he did get the lou contact the

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Speaker 4: And and I'll give you this kind of quick personal story.

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Speaker 4: I'm just everything. I just it's going horribly that night

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Speaker 4: we win a game and win the district. Anyways, we

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Speaker 4: we had one more game to play this season, played it.

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Speaker 4: We want it, and because Brassport lost, we met them

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Speaker 4: I just was like, I gotta I gotta relax, I

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Speaker 4: In the second quarter, I went six for six. I

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Speaker 4: because you start stressing and press. The best thing you

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Speaker 2: I like that. I like that. Jalen Petrick that long story, dude. No,

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Speaker 2: I like long stories. That's what this podcast is for.

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Speaker 2: And before we move on to my choice, I just

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Speaker 2: want folks to hear this so much fun answer that

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Speaker 2: to celebrate on the plane? And I'm sure I sounded

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Speaker 2: like Walter Kronkite, but you know, dorky Walter Kronkite. And

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Speaker 2: Petrie talking about the plane ride home and what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be the most fun plane ride ever. Oh

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Speaker 2: for show.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna be lit. You know, We're gonna have some good.

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Speaker 6: Food, some good apple juice with some cranberry juice all that.

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Speaker 5: Like we're finna be lit, some some sprite.

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Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: We're going soda tonight, like we're not playing with it.

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Speaker 3: Ain't no water or no good light. Gatorade. Gator Light

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Speaker 2: Jalen Peatree, congrats on the victory appreciates you man. All Right,

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Speaker 2: there's probably some jokes in there that I that went

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Speaker 2: that was a fun plane ride home. Deservedly so for

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Speaker 2: Jalen Petree, love your choice for him. I have gone

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Speaker 2: on record a few different times saying this year feels

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Speaker 2: a lot like twenty eleven. Many similarities. One similarity that

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna apply to this one. I could see a

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Speaker 2: breakout a lah JJ Watts picked six, a breakout performance.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go two from either or maybe both Will

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Speaker 2: go with one of them. That's there's nothing I don't

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00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 2: know matchup wise, and I'm I just have a gut

435
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 2: like one of them is going to erupt and make

436
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 2: his mark, So yeah, I don't like it.

437
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 3: It's funny because I.

438
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 2: Mind a reason to it, but I just kind of

439
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 2: have that feeling.

440
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 3: I almost Pickedtingly, I almost picked thing.

441
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 2: He's gonna be called up. I mean, he's yeah, and

442
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,400
Speaker 2: he doesn't trail a guy the whole. They don't just say, hey,

443
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 2: go go trail uh Cooper. But he's gonna get his

444
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,400
Speaker 2: shots at Cooper from time to time.

445
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 4: And that's not something that I think if you ask

446
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 4: sting he'd do it, yeah, and he would love to

447
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 4: do it. It's just not something that's not in the defense.

448
00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 3: The Mico has not done that.

449
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 2: I do think They're defenses aren't that way either.

450
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 4: Correct correct, and you know, based on how you know

451
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 4: different thing the defense works.

452
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: You know.

453
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 4: I think back to the Jets with Durell Reeves. The

454
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 4: reason Revis went all over the place was Rex Ryan

455
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 4: was playing cover won the entire time, Man and man

456
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 4: a whole entire time.

457
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 3: So it's like, Okay, Texas don't play man and man

458
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 3: a lot.

459
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 4: So those secondary players have got to work in concert

460
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 4: with one another. And if Stingley is going to where

461
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 4: Cooper is and say Cooper goes in the slot, well

462
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 4: that could mess up kind of his own coverage there playing,

463
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of things.

464
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 3: That go into it.

465
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 4: I do think there's a way that you can handle

466
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,959
Speaker 4: that depending on where Cooper lines up. If Cooper goes

467
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 4: to Stingley's side, okay, let's Sting have him one on

468
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 4: one and then roll your coverage other way. If sting

469
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 4: goes to Nelson's side, and you feel like Steven needs

470
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,239
Speaker 4: some help, roll some help that way and give him help.

471
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 4: When Cooper's on that side, let's staying handle the other

472
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 4: side by himself. So it's a lonely island to be

473
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 4: on first thing, but that might be what he's got

474
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 4: to do against his team. And I I was so

475
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 4: close to say in Stanley, and I thought about Petri

476
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 4: and I was like, you know what, I think retribution

477
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 4: for him would be really, really sweet, and I think

478
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 4: they need it. Considering no Jimmy Ward, no Eric Murray,

479
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 4: no MJ. Stewart, they were down so many safeties. But

480
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 4: DC's played well, Kareem's played well. And here's the other thing.

481
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 4: I'll say one one final thing I would love to

482
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 4: see early in this game, Drew.

483
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 3: I would love to see Kareem. I'd love to see Kareem.

484
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 4: Jackson Mide just pop them whether the ball comes out

485
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 4: or not, but just to let them know, Hey, y'all

486
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 4: gonna be floating around his secondary all day and if

487
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 4: you do, I'm back here and you're about to get hit.

488
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 4: And just that little bit of hesitation that it can

489
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 4: cause can create some problems. So Drew, I'm just really excited.

490
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 4: I don't want to say we're playing with house money.

491
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 3: I don't.

492
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 4: I don't want to kind of take that, but a chance,

493
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 4: we kind of are playing with house money.

494
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 3: Man.

495
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 4: We're three thirteen one last year, like the hell look

496
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 4: at us now?

497
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 3: So they're eighteen teams watching, including the Jacksonville Jaguars.

498
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,479
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, don't forget our friends, the Colts and the

499
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,719
Speaker 2: Titans too. Oh Hi guys, Yeah, smell you late.

500
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 3: You get the combine.

501
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: John, this was fun. Yeah, we'll do it again very soon, hopefully,

502
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 2: well we will, no matter what, we'll do it again

503
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 2: next week. But anyhow, let's do it again next week

504
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: with a win. Cool cool, cool, Bye cool stuff from John.

505
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: And now it's time to talk with one of my

506
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: favorite Texans, Jerry Hughes. He's a Hustonian, he's from this area.

507
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 2: He came back to second season with the team. He's

508
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 2: a leader in every single sense of the word. He

509
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 2: entered the NFL the same year as Kareem Jackson, the

510
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: same year as John Weeks. So it's really cool talking

511
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: to a guy with his level of experience, his connection

512
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 2: to the town, and a whole lot more. Without further ado,

513
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 2: my one on one with Jerry Jerry Hughes. You're stuck

514
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 2: in a ten foot by ten foot room and it's

515
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 2: filled with food. You've got to eat your way out

516
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: of it. But what's the food you're going to choose

517
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 2: to eat your way out with?

518
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 4: Oh?

519
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 5: My god, favorite food probably gonna be Skittles.

520
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 6: Skittles got a nice little fun flavor for each different bite.

521
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 2: Hey, speaking of Skittles, weren't you happy a few years

522
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 2: back when they changed the green flavor back to lime

523
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 2: from what whatever it was was like apple before?

524
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I was kind of getting used to

525
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 6: the apple flavor, you know what I mean, it's been there.

526
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 5: For a while. Yeah, you might as well.

527
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, I secretly might have actually tried

528
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 6: a couple of apples in between, you know.

529
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 2: So you were more of an apple fan.

530
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

531
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean apples now green Granny Smith asking

532
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 6: me the name any more apples.

533
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: It's Fuji, there's banquet, there's red Delicious. We can go

534
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 2: on and all. That's like a question in itself. I

535
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 2: should bring up next week.

536
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 5: That'd be a good one to see how many apples

537
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 5: people know.

538
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one I've seen. Yeah, that'd be fun.

539
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: Which would you rather? Can be the fastest person in

540
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 2: the world running okay, but you have offensive bad breath,

541
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: or you can fly but you have no sense of

542
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 2: taste or smell to.

543
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 5: These some good ones. I had to go with fine, Yeah.

544
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 6: Just because the offensive bad if that's a deal breaker,

545
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 6: if I feel like for anyone, it's like we all

546
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 6: get up so early in the morning to make sure

547
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 6: we don't have that problem.

548
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: How do you combat bad breath?

549
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, I mean chewing gum spirit man,

550
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 6: you know a lot of listening. But you can't carry

551
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 6: that stuff around anymore. You know, we used to have

552
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 6: the banaka back in the day.

553
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right there.

554
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm with you.

555
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 2: You're speaking of the right clientele here right, perfect, perfect

556
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: in the locker room, always showing my age, so I

557
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 2: always get reminded. Man it's it's funny you bring that up,

558
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: because so I don't I don't remember who it was.

559
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: Was somebody younger talking about the blue uniforms that the

560
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 2: Oilers were wearing, and they said, yeah, Jerry's the only

561
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 2: one that remembers that you were well that they were

562
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: well gone before you'd gotten into the league. But you

563
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: remember growing that up in Houston.

564
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I remember, being uh Houstonian. We used to

565
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 5: watch those guys.

566
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 6: I remember where we were watching them beat the Buffalo

567
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 6: Bills when they make that first move to Tennessee.

568
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, so yeah, I mean I had the old.

569
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 6: School starter set up, sure Moon, fresh out the box though,

570
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 6: the little helmet on and everything. I was dressing the

571
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 6: nines back in the day. Man, little eight year old men,

572
00:26:59,320 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 6: you couldn't tell me.

573
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: Couldn't tell you anything. Hey, As a pass rusher, you've

574
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 2: seen the stuff of warn Moon over the years, as

575
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: your appreciation for them only grown.

576
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 6: Oh absolutely, I mean just not only how long he

577
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 6: was able to play, but just to stay healthy. I mean,

578
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 6: you got big nasty guys like myself coming at you,

579
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 6: trying to take the ball away, trying to hit you

580
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 6: as hard as possible, just because we hadn't seen you

581
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 6: all day, you know, just want to be nice and

582
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 6: introduce ourselves.

583
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 5: But I mean for.

584
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 6: Any quarterback who can play that well and deal with

585
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 6: that kind of punishment and be successful for those many years, man,

586
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 6: I got tip my hat to you, because that's a

587
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 6: gladiator sport right there.

588
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the rules protecting quarterbacks not as generous back

589
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: then as as maybe they are. Did most overused emoji

590
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: is what for me.

591
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 7: Or just in general?

592
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness.

593
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 6: Probably the most overlooked the emosi would be the one.

594
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 5: With the hands over the eyes. I still don't know

595
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 5: what that means.

596
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 6: I don't know if you're laughing, or if you're laughing

597
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 6: together or are we embarrassed together.

598
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 5: I have a lot of questions about that emoji.

599
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 2: That's a good one.

600
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 5: I mean, there's there's just so much going on with

601
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 5: that one picture right there.

602
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: Who sends you that the most?

603
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 5: Oh my god, it would probably be not only my wife,

604
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 5: but probably the guys on the team.

605
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 6: Deli guys, Okay, Normally I'll say something and it's just

606
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 6: right after that I'll get that emoji you don't like. Wait,

607
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 6: so it was that good am I in the am

608
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 6: I in the clear. I, Like I said, you gotta

609
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 6: follow up with any emoji.

610
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 5: You just can't leave it out there. It's not a hieroglyphic.

611
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 2: Have you brought this up with them, like, what's this mean? Guys?

612
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 5: Or they say they just say the emojis mean what

613
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 5: they mean?

614
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: Oh man, they're keeping it from.

615
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 5: You, That's what I said. What does that mean?

616
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: And for the record, I don't know what it means either,

617
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: So I'm not I'm not the only one in that boat.

618
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I'm good.

619
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 2: Wild animal wise or train animal wise. You can have

620
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: any animal in the world as a pet. It's never

621
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: gonna go crazy. It's gonna be fine, it's not gonna

622
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: hurt anybody.

623
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 7: What are you gonna choose a bear well type?

624
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 6: Oh man, I want one of those big brown bears. Yeah, yeah,

625
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 6: just walking on the chain, sitting next to me. I mean,

626
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 6: because you always see them. I don't want anything to

627
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 6: sneak up on you or you don't know it's there.

628
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 6: I want the big old bear that can stand on

629
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 6: his two legs, big old bear, hug when you see them,

630
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 6: and then you have fun.

631
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't have to worry about anything that happening.

632
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 5: I mean, nothing could take down the bear, like they

633
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 5: say nothing.

634
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: Do you got any pets of your own right now?

635
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 5: Two dogs? Oh yeah, I'm a dog, guys.

636
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 6: I got two German shepherds, two girls, So yeah, I'm

637
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 6: always messing with them. Love dogs, I mean they're so

638
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 6: sure mass best friends for a reason, right of course.

639
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, But I mean other other than that, any other

640
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 5: animal I would leave. I would love to have a bear.

641
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: And German shepherds are kind of bearish, you know, like

642
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 2: in appearance.

643
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 6: I mean I've never been that close to be but

644
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 6: I feel like you're right in the appearance hopefully with

645
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 6: the behavior.

646
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 5: You know, you always want to be around you. Maybe

647
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 5: they love to protect.

648
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: Us and I'm no dog. I mean I've got two

649
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: dogs too, but from what I have encountered seeing them

650
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: out in the workforce with you know, the police and

651
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: all that stuff, German shepherds are like some of the

652
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: smartest too. They do calculus and chores.

653
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 6: And stuff like I think I haven't trained my dog

654
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Speaker 6: at all and they never leave my side, And I'm.

655
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Speaker 5: Like, man, thank you guys.

656
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Speaker 2: Good dogs.

657
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say, they love the kids. They

658
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Speaker 5: make it easy for us.

659
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: Now do they snuggle on the couch or you keep

660
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Speaker 2: them on the ground.

661
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 5: Or on the ground. Yeah, I can't do the you're.

662
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: A responsible dog owner because my little dogs they're also

663
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: German dogs, but they're dogs.

664
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Speaker 5: It's nice.

665
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they hang it on the couch. First thing you

666
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: do when your eyes open in the morning, when you

667
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: wake up, I.

668
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 5: Get an alert to order Storebucks.

669
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Speaker 2: You need it. What's the order, Vincy?

670
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 5: Peppermint moocha?

671
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: You gotta get Venti, but Peera it is.

672
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Speaker 6: It's a long drive in It's about forty five minute commute,

673
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 6: so it kind of helps me kind of wake up there.

674
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 5: Peppermint moocha, got to asked my wife.

675
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 6: She kind of introduced that drink to me a couple

676
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 6: of years back, and it has yet to change.

677
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: And it's stuck. That's a good thing.

678
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, And like it's crazy because I opened my eyes

679
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 6: and it's it's almost like Siri knows me, so my

680
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 6: eyes open, phone lights up and it's like you want

681
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 6: to place an order and sometimes I'm like no, but

682
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 6: since you ask, you know.

683
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: And it all comes back to the good breath thing,

684
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: the peppermint fighting the coffee breath. Yeah, you see, I

685
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: like it so what's going on on this forty five

686
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: minute commit commute. Are you talking to people? You're listening?

687
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: Combo of both? What's going on?

688
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 6: Oh man, it's a combination of between podcasts listening every

689
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 6: now and they're a little NPR news and then just music,

690
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 6: you know, just depending on today. Today was a throwback.

691
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 6: Even though it's not Thursday, it's Thursday for the week.

692
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: It feels like it because the game is on a Saturday.

693
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: It'said on a Sunday.

694
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 6: Yes, we'll throw back Thursday. So I'm hitting some of

695
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 6: the oldies. I mean, some Monica three to O W.

696
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 6: Might throw in some fat Pad. I mean, it's just

697
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 6: whatever it's on that playlist, and we're just man, it's

698
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 6: a blast from the past.

699
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 5: You know, we all been.

700
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 6: Listening to so much music you get you get it

701
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 6: so much throughout the year. Anytime you can go back

702
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 6: to the two thousand and ones, you know, the ninety

703
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 6: nine is the late nineties, tough.

704
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 5: It is good stuff.

705
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm never gonna pretend to pass myself off as a

706
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: fat Pad expert, but tops Drop we play that in

707
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: between innings at my son's baseball game, so love that

708
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: and the hits always follow after.

709
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Speaker 5: I mean, how could they not. The kids know the truth. Yeah,

710
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 5: they know their sound legend when they hear it.

711
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: It's the best. It's the best. Okay, favorite place you've

712
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: ever visited is what?

713
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 5: Or where?

714
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 6: Gosh, you know, I don't travel much, so I'm gonna

715
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 6: throw out Fiji. It's probably the favorite place I've ever visited.

716
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 6: It was an island, so of course you can have

717
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 6: so much fun on the island. When you're on an

718
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 6: island time. I really got to understand the meaning of that,

719
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 6: waking up and joining a little mimosa with breakfast, with

720
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Speaker 6: a little corona, or with lunch. I was gonna say,

721
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Speaker 6: I mean the way they say it's five o'clock somewhere.

722
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Speaker 6: I want to say, Island time was incredible, man, it was.

723
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Speaker 6: It was great just to kind of get out of

724
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Speaker 6: the US, not worry about anything but just watching the

725
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 6: sunrise and set.

726
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 5: That's about it.

727
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Speaker 2: Favorite nickname is what oh man, because you have a few,

728
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: don't you?

729
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 5: You know what everyone says I have a few. I

730
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Speaker 5: don't know if I do.

731
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Speaker 6: I've heard some of the guys call me Gary from

732
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 6: back in the day. I know, a college is just

733
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 6: a mess with you.

734
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 5: I think so like a little play.

735
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Speaker 6: On Jerry, but instead of being Jerry on the field,

736
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Speaker 6: you turn to get I know, the college guys would

737
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 6: call me hulk or something like that. Just I guess

738
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Speaker 6: I just flipped that switch. I think that might be

739
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 6: the biggest thing for people is the the on the

740
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 6: off field, the universes on the field. They don't see

741
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 6: a correlation between the two guys. But I'm like, you

742
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 6: can't be the same person on them off you gotta

743
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 6: be able to let your hair down somewhere.

744
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: You unquestionably can't. I mean, sitting in your seat last

745
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: week was Christian Harris and he said, yeah, a lot

746
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: of people call me angry man. He's like, I don't

747
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,479
Speaker 2: think I'm an angry man. I was like, man, we're

748
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: having a nice conversation here, but when you're on the field,

749
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: you gotta be some angry Yeah.

750
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Speaker 6: Not to be I mean you're here there for what

751
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 6: sixty minutes? You get to have fun knocking people's heads around.

752
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 6: So I mean, if that doesn't allow you to kind

753
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 6: of just let your hair out and be yourself, I mean,

754
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 6: I don't know what else does, Especially with this great game.

755
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four, I would like to do new things.

756
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 5: We've talked about this the other day.

757
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to do new things, travel more, try

758
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 6: new restaurants here in the city. We're always opening up

759
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 6: good foods and I'm constantly looking to find some places

760
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 6: to go just to see what the what we got.

761
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 6: We always got something new. The foods here is always great.

762
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 6: So that's it for me. Try new foods, see new things,

763
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 6: do new things.

764
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Speaker 2: You will never run out of phenomenal places to eat

765
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: in this town.

766
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Speaker 5: And that's what I love. That's what I love, and

767
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 5: I can't wait.

768
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Speaker 2: Can't wait, Jerke, great new things on the way for you.

769
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Speaker 7: Jerry Hughes.

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Speaker 2: We always appreciate the time. It's always good to be

771
00:33:59,120 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: with you, my friend.

772
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me man always.

773
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: Jerry Hughes one of my favorite Texans, one of yours

774
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: as well. Appreciate his time, and we also appreciate Max Lobe.

775
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: He's a Cleveland Browns podcaster. He hosts The Dog Check

776
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 2: on the Believe podcast Network. He does that with former

777
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: Beat of Mercury, the Slippery Eric Metcalf, who played for

778
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: the Longhorns and then played in the NFL, notably with

779
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: the Browns and a lot of other teams as well.

780
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 2: But here is my conversation with Max about the playoff

781
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Speaker 2: matchup between the Browns and the Texans. Having a fun

782
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: time with Max Lobe. He is the host of the

783
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: dog Check. It is a podcast all about the Cleveland

784
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: Browns on the Believe podcast network. He does that with

785
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: former Cleveland brown Eric Metcalf as well as former Longhorn

786
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: Eric maccaf Metcalf. He was awesome back in the day.

787
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: Max is awesome currently in Max, we did this just

788
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: before Christmas, Browns came to town and basically smoked the Texans.

789
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Speaker 2: But any many differences this Saturday, right, Very Yeah.

790
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 8: It's an extremely different matchup, like we talked about very brieflyly,

791
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 8: It's not two different teams like that wouldn't be doing

792
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 8: justice to the players who played last time. But you're

793
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 8: getting multiple starters back on both sides, So it's as

794
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Speaker 8: different as it can be.

795
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: For sure, no doubt. You know, let's start with the

796
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: Cleveland aspect of things, because we know about CJ. Stroud

797
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: returning and so on and so forth, and we'll get

798
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: to that in a moment, but we're shooting this. You

799
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: and I on a Wednesday morning around ten am, and

800
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: the news came out today safety Grant Delpitt has been

801
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 2: cleared to practice. Now they haven't said he's gonna play,

802
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: but most likely he's probably gonna be out there. He's

803
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: a guy that a lot of people around here are

804
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: familiar with. He's from this area. Heck, he played on

805
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: a select team in junior high with Texan safety Jalen Petrie.

806
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: What does Grant delpitz possible return mean for this defense,

807
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: which is already a really salty unit.

808
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 7: It means a lot.

809
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 8: And I just think back to the beginning of this

810
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 8: when this secondary was playing their best. It's so vanilla

811
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 8: to say, but those five starters because they technically they

812
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 8: roll out and nickel personnel with true nushim.

813
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 7: Out there a lot.

814
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 8: But the five starters are three corners, both stafety. He's like,

815
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 8: all five of those guys haven't been on the field,

816
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 8: I think since October. So it's really really cool to

817
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 8: think back as to how good the secondary was to

818
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 8: start the year, and now you're getting all of those

819
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 8: guys at least somewhat.

820
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 7: Healthy on the field together.

821
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Speaker 8: It's huge and I think Grant Delt's been having an

822
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 8: amazing year from when he was healthy, and I think

823
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 8: it's a big name that's coming back, but to be

824
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 8: honest with you, if he's not one hundred percent, I

825
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 8: really have liked the way the Browns backup safety Ronnie

826
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 8: Hickman has been playing. You was the guy that Eric

827
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 8: and I highlight in the preseason as somebody who could

828
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 8: play meaningful snaps in a sub.

829
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 7: Package type role.

830
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 8: Now he's thrust into the real thing and he's been

831
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 8: playing really, really well. So even if Delpit can't play

832
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 8: full snaps, if he can't play at all, I trust

833
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 8: the safety depth there. And having Juan Thornhill back, who

834
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 8: they've had back for a couple of weeks, now that's

835
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 8: huge too, a guy that's that's bolstered that back end

836
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 8: a ton And now they're getting Obo Garnquo back, who

837
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 8: I'm sure you all know very very well. He is

838
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 8: a huge aspect, not in every down guy, but the

839
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 8: third downs. He is out there every time, and it's

840
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 8: a big impact to have him because he can win

841
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 8: on one on one. You can't go double team Miles

842
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 8: Garrett because you'll leave him and Zadarius Smith opens things

843
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 8: up for everybody else. Like that's a huge impact edition

844
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 8: as well.

845
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: Max Love of the dog Check podcast with us. He

846
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: just hurt my heart there a little bit talking about Obo.

847
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: He was a good Houston Texan last year on a

848
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: pretty bad team. He really came on month of December

849
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: and started showing why the Browns went after him and

850
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 2: why they they spent the way they did on him.

851
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: That's that's that's three pretty solid names there in you know,

852
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: Obo in Thornhill, and then like I mentioned, off the

853
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: Top and Delpit. What do you think about this the

854
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: rest of this team as far as it's constructed and

855
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: how much different it is than the one we saw

856
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: on Christmas eve Day.

857
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 8: To be honest with you, I don't think it's all

858
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 8: that different. I think the biggest difference with the offense

859
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 8: and Joe Flacco.

860
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 7: Like, even if it was an.

861
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 8: Extra week or two, you do see Flacco starting to

862
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 8: settle down a little bit more. He's been having better

863
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 8: performances as time has gone on. But it's interesting, like

864
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 8: Amari Cooper did not play against the Jets like he's

865
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 8: been performing without some of his top weapons. Like you

866
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 8: could see he's very very comfortable in that offense, which

867
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 8: coming in that was the biggest thing for me. I mean, really,

868
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 8: the only game he lost was the first game against

869
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 8: the Rams, so he's looking more comfortable as time has

870
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 8: gone on. The team is all not all that different,

871
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 8: to be honest with you. Offensively, the only thing that's

872
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 8: a little bit different could be different is the running

873
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 8: back depth because Pierre Strong picked up an injury this

874
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 8: past week. But even then, it's not one of your

875
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 8: top two guys. Defensively, very much the same, A lot

876
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 8: of the same guys are playing, and now they're getting

877
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 8: some starters back, which is huge.

878
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, how big do you think this last week was

879
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: getting those guys some rest. You'd never really hear excuses like, oh,

880
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: they were rusty, but you know what do you think

881
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: about that? That idea that they got some time off,

882
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: they got some shape to heal, and now they're a

883
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 2: little bit more at full strength.

884
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 8: It's all well and good until you look at one

885
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 8: who comes out there on Saturday.

886
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 7: Because the reality is you have that extra week.

887
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 8: Your kicker, Dustin Hopkins, still is not going to play,

888
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 8: so that extra week at least for him, didn't matter

889
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 8: as much in that sense. But you have to come

890
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 8: out and start fast, and that was the biggest key

891
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 8: that Eric and I talked about too, Because you have

892
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 8: a week off where the vast majority of your starters

893
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 8: don't play. You can't roll into a game, especially on

894
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 8: the road, against a team that can put points slow.

895
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 7: You can't come out slow.

896
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 8: You have to go especially offensively, set the tone, put

897
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 8: some points, keep the crowd a little bit more quiet.

898
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 8: That has to be the main thing for the Browns. So, honestly,

899
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 8: thinking back to the game before Christmas, I wouldn't be

900
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 8: surprised if we saw a shot the first couple of plays,

901
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 8: just like we saw then. Like, I think the Browns

902
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 8: are gonna look downfield early, and if I'm the Browns,

903
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 8: I am trying to punch them in the mouth as

904
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:52,479
Speaker 8: soon as I can.

905
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it worked well. Last time worked for the Texans.

906
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,240
Speaker 2: On Saturday night in Indianapolis, they basically did the same thing.

907
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: They get that touchdown Stroud and Nico Collins. So you're

908
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 2: in that area. You know a little bit about c. J.

909
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: Stroud because he's an Ohio State buck eye, but you've

910
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: also have not been any stranger to the successes he's

911
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 2: gone through this season. How much does he change the

912
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: complexion of things from the Browns and Brown's fans standpoint.

913
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: I know y'all are a confident bunch, but that was

914
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: a different unit seeing case Keenuman, a little bit of

915
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 2: Dave S Mills. What's the difference now in y'all's eyes

916
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 2: with Stroud?

917
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 8: I can speak through for myself as well as the

918
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 8: Browns fandom. Brown's fandom. I know for a fact the

919
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 8: last AFC South team we wanted.

920
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 7: To play coming in this week was the Texans.

921
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 8: I think anybody who doesn't says that wasn't the case

922
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 8: to you is live like. Nobody wants to play at Texans.

923
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 8: One because they play good defense, like they have a

924
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 8: defensive front that can stop the run, that can force

925
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 8: you in the uncomfortable positions. But two because of C. J.

926
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 8: Stroud and it's a quarterback. The Browns really haven't seen

927
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 8: the the caliber of much this year, and when they have,

928
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 8: they've struggled at least defensively. And I think the ability

929
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 8: for the Texans to stretch the field, which is what

930
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 8: I think their best at offensively. The ability to stretch

931
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 8: the field downfield against an aggressive defensive back unit not

932
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 8: only could result in big catches, but big pass interferences.

933
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 8: And I think a guy like Nico Collins, who's six

934
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 8: or four runs like to win athletic mismatch is going

935
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 8: to draw a lot of attention from a guy like

936
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 8: Martin Emerson, and Emerson is you know, it's hit or

937
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 8: miss with him, he can go make an incredible play

938
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 8: on the ball. He is also very early a lot

939
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 8: of times draws pay receivers drop pass interferences, so that

940
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 8: ability to stretch the ball downfield is more prevalent with CJ.

941
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 8: Stroud I also think just managing a game the Texans

942
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 8: in general, you are more confident with a guy like

943
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 8: c J. Stroud in and you could see the plays

944
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 8: he makes off script. You could see how confident the

945
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 8: offensive line is, the running backs like everybody rallies around

946
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 8: that guy, and I think that's what you need in

947
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 8: a franchise quarterback, but especially in a game like this,

948
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 8: which you know people will say this is his first

949
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 8: playoff game. Last week was a playoff game basically, so

950
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 8: this is technically his first playoff game. Really is second,

951
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 8: but he's no stranger to big games. Playing in Ohio

952
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 8: State college football, playoff all that stuff. So having a

953
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 8: guy who's honestly been in a couple of big games

954
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 8: before rather than a backup who's sat behind CJ.

955
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 7: Stroud all year is enormous.

956
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: Let's take CJ. Stroud's name out of the equation. Who

957
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: do you see offense defense as the biggest challenge, the

958
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: biggest guy who kind of not takes your breath away

959
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 2: but gives you a little bit of pause. It makes

960
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: you kind of worriessome of about what's gonna happen on

961
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon.

962
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 8: Oh, Will Anderson, for sure, It is no brainer Will

963
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 8: Anderson because he didn't play last time, first of all,

964
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 8: but second of all, the weakest unit for the Browns

965
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 8: right now is their offensive line, especially their tackles. And honestly,

966
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 8: when the Browns have been outmanned, like against guys like TJ. Watt,

967
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 8: against guys like mont has Sweat, they've done a really

968
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 8: really good job of keeping extra guys in or using

969
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 8: a tight end or running back to chip like, they've

970
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 8: done a really good job of slowing those guys down.

971
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 8: But elite pass rusher against the backup offensive line scares

972
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 8: me every time, and it should because that's a guy

973
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 8: who can wreck a game. And if I'm the Cleveland Browns,

974
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 8: I'm coming into this game knowing we can win this game.

975
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 7: We just have to control the football and take care

976
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 7: of the football. That is the.

977
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 8: Biggest hindrance in the Browns operating at least offensively in

978
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 8: that sense, because Will Anderson, like I said, record game,

979
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 8: multiple sacks, forts bumble, he can do all of that

980
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 8: and the Browns haven't seen him yet this year, which

981
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 8: is the scariest part.

982
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Max Loeb is a podcaster hosts The Dog Check

983
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: on the Believe podcast network along with Eric Metcalf, the

984
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: receiver running back return man extraordinaire from the old days

985
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: in the nineteen nineties. Let's kind of revisit that Kevin

986
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: Stevanski done a fantastic job this year. What though, advantage

987
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: do the Texans have in that they didn't have CJ.

988
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: Stroud out there last time and Will Anderson and for

989
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 2: the bulk of the game Jonathan Garnard, The Browns have

990
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 2: not seen on film a lot of stuff of the Texans,

991
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: whereas the Texans quarterback wise, they know about Joe Flacco.

992
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 2: How much of an advantage is that. How much does

993
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: that not really matter because the talent that is on

994
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 2: the Browns defense. What do you make of that idea

995
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: of they've not seen this, so there's x amount of advantage.

996
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 8: I think it's probably more of an advantage defensively for

997
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 8: the Texans than it is offensively for the Texans because

998
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 8: the end of the day, the Browns have played some

999
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 8: dynamic quarterbacks and honestly, they haven't done a great job

1000
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 8: in terms of keeping points off the board. But when

1001
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 8: you look at their performances against guys like Lamar Jackson,

1002
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 8: like they did enough to limit his explosive place, guys

1003
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 8: like brock Purty, like they did enough to.

1004
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 7: Limit his explosive play.

1005
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 8: So as much as I want to say they're good

1006
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 8: against these elite quarterbacks, they still put up points, but

1007
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 8: they definitely have limited their explosive plays. I think that's

1008
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 8: the biggest thing defensively for the Browns, So not seeing

1009
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 8: film on CJ.

1010
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 7: Stroud in that regard.

1011
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 8: Obviously, it's an advantage for the Texans in that sense,

1012
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 8: but I don't think it's.

1013
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 7: As big of an advantage as when you.

1014
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 8: Look at the other side of the ball, especially because

1015
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 8: you talked about it, they didn't have Will Anderson at all.

1016
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 7: Blake Cashman is another.

1017
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 8: Guy that sticks out to me because he pops on film,

1018
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 8: but he's great against the run, and I think so

1019
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 8: much of what the Browns want to do offensively, obviously

1020
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 8: it wasn't the case when they played the Texans a

1021
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 8: few weeks ago. So much of what the Browns want

1022
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 8: to do offensively with Flacco goes through David Nijoku, And

1023
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 8: I think it is a matchup the Browns will like

1024
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 8: in Djoku against Cashman, but it's definitely a tougher matchup

1025
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 8: than what they saw last time around. So that's another

1026
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 8: one for me where you don't know how they're gonna

1027
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 8: play David Nijoku with their starting linebacker. You don't know

1028
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 8: what they're gonna do with Will Anderson in terms of

1029
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 8: pass rush, and you don't know if it's gonna change

1030
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 8: how much they blitched they try to get more one

1031
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 8: on ones.

1032
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 7: I think it's a bigger schematic.

1033
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 8: Advantage in terms of the Texans defense than it is

1034
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 8: Texans offense not having cjs drout, But both are in

1035
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 8: like inherent advantages for sure.

1036
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 2: Max Loeb I asked you this last time. I'm gonna

1037
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: ask you this again. How the hell do you win

1038
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: eleven football games by going minus nine in turnover differential?

1039
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: It's I mean it's astounding. That's what the Browns did

1040
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: this year. The Texans were plus ten on the year,

1041
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: which is really really good, but they don't even have

1042
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: the have the same amount of wins. How how did

1043
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: this happen? It's amazing.

1044
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 8: I think, Well, one, I think it's coaching. I think

1045
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 8: Kem's Fansky has done an unbelievable job. I wanted the

1046
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 8: Browns to win this past week so bad because it

1047
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 8: would have been the first, I think the first time

1048
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 8: ever a team would have won twelve games with five

1049
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 8: different starting quarterbacks. Like he's been thrown to the Wolves

1050
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 8: in terms of the most important position on the field,

1051
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 8: lost his best player in Nick Chubb. Like what's the

1052
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 8: Fansky has done as incredible? But I also just think people,

1053
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 8: you know, you look at the Browns, you look at

1054
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 8: the scores of these games and the past few weeks,

1055
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 8: like it's been moderately high scoring on the opponent's end.

1056
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 8: You kind of got to look at how teams scored

1057
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 8: like that Bears game touchdown because of a pick six,

1058
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 8: touchdown because of a ball returned to the one. This

1059
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 8: defense is incredible, incredible. First, I believe first in the

1060
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 8: NFL and yards per game first in the NFL, and

1061
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 8: yards per play first the NFL in first downs, like

1062
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 8: this defense is suffocating and the reality is teams struggle

1063
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 8: to move the ball on them and sometimes it's the

1064
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 8: Browns doing it to themselves giving opponents the ball, you know,

1065
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 8: and plus territory or in the red zone. And that

1066
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 8: was a huge, huge issue at the start of the year.

1067
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 8: It's gotten better as time has gone on. It was

1068
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 8: a huge issue at the start of the year, like

1069
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 8: it's why they lost the Steelers game the beginning of

1070
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 8: the year. They give up fourteen points or the offense

1071
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 8: let the Steelers defense score fourteen points, Like you can't

1072
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 8: win a game like that. So it's been a huge

1073
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 8: issue at the beginning of the year. It's gotten better

1074
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 8: as times gone on. But flaccoat as much as the

1075
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 8: Browns fans love him, as much as he loves to

1076
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 8: sling the football, he'll put it in harm's way, like

1077
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 8: he'll give you one for sure. And I think the

1078
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 8: only turnover free game the Browns I've had this year

1079
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 8: was at home against the Arizona Cargins when they were

1080
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 8: starting Clayton two.

1081
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 7: So, like you gotta take care of the football.

1082
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 8: The reason they're sitting in eleven wins with the minus

1083
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 8: nine turnover differential. I think is coaching, but it's also

1084
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 8: just because of the defense. Like you turn the ball over,

1085
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Speaker 8: defense will get a stop for you. Defense will embrace

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Speaker 8: whatever adversity is in front of them, embrace the situation

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Speaker 8: that they're put in, and sometimes honestly, sometimes it's holding

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Speaker 8: them to three instead of seven, like stuff like that

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Speaker 8: is huge, and this defense has been unbelievable with it.

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Speaker 2: Well, he threw a pair of picks last time in Houston,

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Speaker 2: but they're both basically arm punts. One was in the

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Speaker 2: end zone. You're just taking a shot, you know, as

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Speaker 2: time expired, it really didn't count. And then the other one,

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Speaker 2: the defense, like you said, responded Texans had caught it

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Speaker 2: deep in there. I think it was in the red zone,

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Speaker 2: and the defense steps up and kept them from doing

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Speaker 2: anything with it. So no harm, no foul really in

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Speaker 2: all that regard. All right, let's wrap this up, Max Lobe,

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Speaker 2: what do you see happening? I'm not saying predict, but

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Speaker 2: what do you see happening? If the Browns are to win,

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Speaker 2: this must occur. It's tough.

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Speaker 7: I think it's a couple things one.

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Speaker 8: I think, like I said, I think it's limiting explosive

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Speaker 8: plays on the text inside. Offensively, like if the Browns

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Speaker 8: defense can't avoid CJ. Stroud throwing the ball over the top,

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Speaker 8: they're gonna be okay. If they can keep everything in

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Speaker 8: front of them, I think they're gonna be okay. I

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Speaker 8: also think defensively it comes down to stopping the run,

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Speaker 8: because there were a couple plays last time they played

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Speaker 8: where Devin Singletary had a ten fifteen yard run. When

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Speaker 8: you look at the box score like it wasn't anything crazy,

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Speaker 8: it was because the other runs were two yards behind

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Speaker 8: a line of scrimmage, Like there were explosive runs there

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Speaker 8: for sure.

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Speaker 7: So if you can cut the head off that snake

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Speaker 7: for CJ.

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Speaker 8: Stroud and the third and longs and just let your

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00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 8: pass rushers go get them, now you have Garrett Smith

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Speaker 8: and Obokronquo. I love the Browns chances defensively. Offensively, it's

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Speaker 8: gonna come down and taking care of the football. We

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Speaker 8: talk about it every week. We haven't seen a turnover

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Speaker 8: three games since Arizona, so I'm gonna keep saying it

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Speaker 8: till we do see it. But it's taking care of

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Speaker 8: the football, and it's again it's just taking care or

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Speaker 8: taking advantage of the matchups you have. The Browns obviously

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Speaker 8: loved what they had on the outside with the Marii

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Speaker 8: Cooper last game. Continuing to do that, it's gonna be

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Speaker 8: really interesting to see. Because Cedric Tillman was mispracticed yesterday

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Speaker 8: with a concussion. You don't know if he's gonna go.

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Speaker 8: So that's another one you got to keep a close

1131
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 8: eye on. If they don't have that threat on the outside.

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Speaker 8: Ken guys is like Elijah Moore, David Bell step up

1133
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Speaker 8: and obviously they're gonna feed the ball to Nadjoku. And

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Speaker 8: I think staying ahead of the chains is big for

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Speaker 8: the Browns too, because again, backup offensive line against guys

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Speaker 8: like Will Anderson, you don't want the same situation you

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Speaker 8: want to put the Texans in where you're dropping back

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Speaker 8: on third and long they're getting after the quarterback. If

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Speaker 8: that happens, I think the Browns are in trouble, to

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Speaker 8: be honest with you, So staying ahead of the chains

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Speaker 8: efficiently running the ball, you don't have to run a ton.

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Speaker 8: I know Texas defense is good against the run, but

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Speaker 8: you don't have to run a Ton just efficiently do it.

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Speaker 8: And honestly, one thing I've been saying to everybody I've

1145
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 8: talked to, I think this game is gonna be a shootout.

1146
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Speaker 8: As much as I love the Browns defense, I think

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Speaker 8: the Texans are as good as them through the air.

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Speaker 8: I think they know they have some matchups there that

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Speaker 8: they like, and I think the Browns will be able

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00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 8: to move the ball through the air. So like I

1151
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Speaker 8: think it's a moderately high scoring game. To be honest

1152
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Speaker 8: with you, it's gonna be fun. Max low is awesome

1153
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 8: talking with you. Make sure you listen to Max on

1154
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 8: the Dog Check. It's a Browns podcast. He's gonna have

1155
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 8: fun stuff this week with Eric Metcalf. It's on the

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Speaker 8: Believe Podcast network. Max can't believe. We just did this

1157
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 8: a few weeks ago. It's great to do it with

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Speaker 8: you again.

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Speaker 2: And it's been a fun, fun season.

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Speaker 7: Yes, and nice.

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Speaker 8: Thank you for having me on again. Like I said,

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Speaker 8: thought we were on a collision course. Didn't know if

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Speaker 8: it'd be the Texans, but I'm glad it.

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00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: Is all right. Max Lobe, thank you for the time.

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Speaker 2: All Right, that's cool stuff from Max Lobe. Thank you,

1166
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Speaker 2: Max for the time. And thank you for checking this out.

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Speaker 2: I know you got a lot of options and you

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00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: got a lot of things you could be doing, but

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Speaker 2: thank you for spending your time with me and with

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Speaker 2: John and with Jerry and with Max. And please remember

1171
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: to subscribe to this podcast. Remember while you're there to

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00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 2: go give it five stars, comment on how much you

1173
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,239
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1174
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: and let me know what you think. This is going

1175
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: to be a fun one Texans and Browns. It's the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: It's special. Just think back to where we all were

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00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 2: one year ago. At this time, things were a little

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Speaker 2: bit darker. But it's sunny here in Houston, all right,

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Speaker 2: this is in the lab. Thank you for listening.