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Speaker 1: And the Kicks Block College Football. Laura Stundus, Oh my.

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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast. Was

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Speaker 3: anybody bet MGM? I am your host Matthew Cox, joined

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Speaker 3: by the rest of the esteemed three Man Weave contingent

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Speaker 3: Jimbo Root Kai McKeon, yet again dropping to you another episode.

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Speaker 3: Every Monday, we're coming to you breaking down the early

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Speaker 3: portion of the upcoming week of college basketball slate Monday Tuesdays. Specifically,

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Speaker 3: we are putting the finals week behind us. We have

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Speaker 3: Christmas break, the holiday break in the beloved Diamond Head

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Speaker 3: Classic out there on the island, of course, but we're

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Speaker 3: going to talk of the Monday Tuesday action coming up. Bellas,

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Speaker 3: How are you tonight, Ky? Early thoughts, Jim Early thoughts, goat.

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Speaker 4: And I have I have nothing exciting to say you're

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Speaker 4: the one with the whole earth paradigm shifting.

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Speaker 3: Wyeah, that's going on fatherhood, Jim. Yeah, fatherhood so planned.

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Speaker 3: It was planned and was expected, which is great. So

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Speaker 3: uh a little earlier than expected, but but yeah, that's

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Speaker 4: That the dad strength is coming on the bets And yeah, folks,

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Speaker 4: folks listening, Matt is grinding hard through very you know,

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Speaker 4: no paternity leave, no rest for the weary for this guy.

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Speaker 1: He's he's he's here for you to give you winners.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kai and Jim had better better litigation representation mind

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Speaker 3: the scenes. The parental League was limited to three days,

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Speaker 3: so tough, but hey, it's a bottom line organization. Times

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Speaker 3: are tough, and you got to just roll up the

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Speaker 3: old sleeves and cap the cards before you get into

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Speaker 3: the six pack plus one of sections. I just want

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Speaker 3: to do a quick overview of the schedule. I just

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Speaker 3: always think it's nice to look ahead at the upcoming week,

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Speaker 3: which changes every week until he gets a conference play.

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Speaker 3: So Monday and so Monday's light, Tuesday, Wednesday heavy, Thursday

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Speaker 3: play really gets into full swing, and that's be a

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Speaker 3: these weird non conference scheduling quirks, and we'll talk about

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Speaker 3: some of those today, but first let's get into the

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Speaker 3: big games. Tuesday is where most of them are. Hows

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Speaker 3: we have three I would say semi premiere major conference

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Speaker 3: matchups of Florida North Carolina. This is out of neutral

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Speaker 3: believe is where it's located. Clemson at South Carolina, big

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Speaker 3: rivalry there in the game Cock State. That's not what

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Speaker 3: it's called the Palmetto State, thank you. And yeah, being

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Speaker 3: Hall at Villanova is our third interesting games here. I

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Speaker 3: just let's start Villanova. Are they back guys kind of

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Speaker 3: good recently.

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Speaker 2: They're good teams, not against bad teams.

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Speaker 1: Right around fiftieth and ken Poon.

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Speaker 4: It's not a complete mockery of a program, which unfortunately

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Speaker 4: that's kind of where seton Hall lands right now. They're

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Speaker 4: the one that's circling the drain with the lack of talent.

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Speaker 4: Clear best player on the floors is Villanova, but kay

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Speaker 4: I talked about it with Seton.

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Speaker 1: Hall and Rutgers on Saturday.

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Speaker 4: I think this Pirates team is going to be a

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Speaker 4: going with Holloway in a major coaching edge over Neptune.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I wrote the exact same thing down. Hall is

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Speaker 5: a tough dog, very difficult to blow them out because

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Speaker 5: At least they have some mobility up front in their

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Speaker 5: I still don't trust under Kyle Neptune. Yeah, Holloway versus Neptune,

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Speaker 3: But obviously the market has been more and more opinionated,

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Speaker 3: the Pirates, However, I wonder if they're going to be

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Speaker 3: just deflated off of the Dylan Harper buzzer beater from

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Speaker 3: that's hovering around five hundred. But back to Florida, UNC

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Speaker 3: disadvantage will UNC be on the glass against Florida's vaulted

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Speaker 3: are playing. But Jim Florida, I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 3: how good. They can be, but they are a comment

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Speaker 3: right now, a freight train. I have no desire to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no chance, I'm gonna bet against Florida. They've won

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Speaker 1: It does like you're saying, Matt, I don't know what.

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Speaker 4: To do with my rating on Florida, Like I keep

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Speaker 4: The market is what kept me off of Arizona State

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Speaker 4: Likely on Gators or nothing here. North Carolina has been

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Speaker 4: And if North Carolina does that, I think Florida is

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Speaker 1: I think that's where the Gators are going to have

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Speaker 5: I'm starting to buy Florida all the way and maybe

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Speaker 5: love these Gators the last couple of years. Now finally

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Speaker 5: they're their top ten team. You and see their toughest challenge.

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Speaker 5: Let's put it in perspective, Florida hasn't played a top

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Speaker 1: But still you and see the toughest challenge.

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Speaker 5: I think the Gator size though, you guys hit it,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Matt, do Elijah Martin swallow up? RJ. Davis? Is

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Speaker 3: I would think the UNC's guards are it's everyone picks

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Speaker 2: But.

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Speaker 1: That's the first of former Duke fan.

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Speaker 3: I just you know, my allegiances die you and do

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Speaker 2: I have no allegiances.

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Speaker 3: I bet numbers, not teams, as some famous handicapper I

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Speaker 3: think said once speaking of SEC real quick Clemson South Carolina.

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Speaker 3: If you're a believer in this SEC thing, where I

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Speaker 3: I do link Clemson coming off that weird ot loss

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Speaker 3: So I kind of get Clemson a path for that loss.

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Speaker 1: We'll see. Yeah, definitely play In Hall Clemson. Yeah, big rivalry.

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Speaker 5: I still left impressed with Clemson after the Memphis game.

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Speaker 5: be a fun little matchup. I just think Clemson is

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Speaker 1: They're not bad, but they're the quote.

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Speaker 5: Unquote weakest link in the SEC, the block nest monster

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Speaker 5: Kai lock He's like making jump shots.

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Speaker 1: That's weird.

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Speaker 4: That's what Cincinnati fans are all mad at him because

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Speaker 1: That kind of scares me. I don't know, Matt, you

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys saw the stat I

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Speaker 4: retweeted from Bart Torvic today. In top one hundred caliber games,

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Speaker 4: the SEC is fifty and nineteen. The second best league

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Speaker 4: So it's it's hard for me to want to go

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Speaker 4: Although Clemson was one of the two ACC teams to

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Speaker 1: I'll be on seat and haul, like you guys said

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Speaker 4: And thinking about Florida, I kind of want to ride

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Speaker 3: Not a really great week for mid major showdown to be,

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Speaker 2: I like the I like the boys from San Diego

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Speaker 1: They just don't make mistakes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're close to the top of the country in

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Speaker 1: The shot volume. I just don't love the spot.

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Speaker 4: They're extremely fun to watch Aniela and Nila Tate Jones

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Speaker 2: I will too.

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Speaker 3: I'll bet the over just to kind of on a

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Speaker 4: Just glance to my numbers for for what I make this,

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Speaker 1: So I've been with you. See.

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Speaker 3: a Grand Canyon I losing a tech Ki we like

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Speaker 3: very good, very capable. This game looking to open probably

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not gonna beat this one, probably,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I saw even Pick. I think spreads

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Speaker 2: I believe Monday. Yeah, this is the episode.

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Speaker 1: Pick right now.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, the market likes well, the openers like Grand Canyon. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that really forces turnovers. I think Bacho excuse me, has

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I Grant Foster is worrisome to me right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's really efficient late starts of the year.

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Speaker 4: They almost beat Georgia, hung around, lost by five in

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Speaker 1: Despite Grant Foster shooting.

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Speaker 4: Two for seventeen from the field, he's at thirty two

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Speaker 4: And they're still kind of competent. And I noted I

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Speaker 1: Back in the lineup the seven footer.

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Speaker 4: He's not like a shot blocker, but he's big, he

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Speaker 1: An NBA arena against Georgia you go to Rustin, which

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Speaker 4: I would like to bet Grand Canyon, but just kind

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Speaker 3: Jim, you kind of laid the breadcrumbs to under I

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Speaker 3: was kind of gonna say, I like under in that

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Speaker 3: and that's a tough place to go and win, especially

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Speaker 1: I think they are better than last year. I think

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Speaker 1: they're awesome. They've been great this year.

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Speaker 5: Their defense is really locked in and their transition offense

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Speaker 5: Seattle really has scoring issues. They do have some shooters

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Speaker 5: They will send you to the free throw line. That

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Speaker 5: But I don't want to go against the Hilltoppers. They're

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Speaker 5: I don't really think that's gonna be a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, also a lean Western Kentucky. Seattle's defense.

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Speaker 4: I know it's against a tough schedule, top fifty schedule

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Speaker 4: It's it's a problem, like they're they're not really able

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Speaker 4: The transit, the guy that left and went to Iowa

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Speaker 1: They also lost Kobe Williamson. I don't know where he's been.

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Speaker 5: He hasn't played all year, and that's pretty important on

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Speaker 4: We should mention mon Creek miss last game for Seattle,

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Speaker 2: West Mine, weast Mine.

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Speaker 3: Last week good for us, really good. I just processed

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Speaker 3: like we Actually I've been bettingas rth Zkota State like

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Speaker 2: I mean, just an insane team right now. And then Charleston.

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Speaker 3: out here at South Alabama against TCU on Monday. Weird

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Speaker 3: yourself for the postseason format, go to TCU the day after. Obviously,

438
00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,320
Speaker 3: the back to back favors TCU, but I think the

439
00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,320
Speaker 3: USA matchup, the way they play with so many zones schemes, like,

440
00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,000
Speaker 3: I think there's a team that actually can play well

441
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,399
Speaker 3: in a short rest spot and like TCU's offense kit

442
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,160
Speaker 3: doesn't scare me at all. So you know, plus twelve,

443
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,120
Speaker 3: I could see USA getting some getting some jumpers to fall,

444
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,479
Speaker 3: kind of scaring the horny frogs.

445
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe TCU takes a little bit of money for

446
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 5: the back to back. I think a lot of betters

447
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,879
Speaker 5: would probably better value like that. Yeah, but TCU is

448
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,399
Speaker 5: super vulnerable man in USA. They have the blueprint of

449
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,399
Speaker 5: these money line specials. They shoot a ton of threes

450
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,200
Speaker 5: top ten, three point and temperate in the country.

451
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 1: That's high variance. That's what we like.

452
00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,560
Speaker 5: And they grind, They grind it up on defense, sit back,

453
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,399
Speaker 5: slid down, throw some zones out there at TCU a

454
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,320
Speaker 5: little better shooting than than last season, but still can't

455
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 5: really shoot. And of course Frankie Collins is done for

456
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,879
Speaker 5: the year for TCU, so I a lot polling towards

457
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,159
Speaker 5: South Alabama besides that back to back spot.

458
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really weird. I don't know why they did

459
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:18,439
Speaker 1: that to themselves with.

460
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 4: The schedule, but yeah, it's a disappointing Power Conference team

461
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,480
Speaker 4: that can't really score. And I know Kay said they're

462
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 4: a little bit better shooting. I watch them and.

463
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,400
Speaker 1: It's like these guys are tossing up prayers like they're

464
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 1: they're just hoping when they throw it towards the rim.

465
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 4: And South Alabama gives up the highest rate of threes.

466
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:35,719
Speaker 1: In the country.

467
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,400
Speaker 4: So Kai mentioned how much they shoot threes, they also

468
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 4: give up a ton low possession game tons of threes.

469
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 1: That's variance.

470
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 4: Maybe that's what we love to see. And I just

471
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 4: don't trust TCU at all right now. So I think

472
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 4: that the South Alabama angle has some legs to it.

473
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,919
Speaker 1: Matt, I'll probably sprinkle on that.

474
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 3: I think I will too. The I mean concern is

475
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 3: obviously on the glass. If Oude and the freshman a

476
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 3: punch David punch kind of a fun brick house type dude.

477
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 3: I mean, at USA is gonna get bullied on the glass.

478
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 3: But you know, against the zone, you can force a

479
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 3: lot of threes, you force long rebounds, you can mitigate

480
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 3: your lack of sides if those misses are long ones,

481
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 3: and get those into quick points the other way.

482
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 2: So that's I think the recipe for the Jaguars.

483
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 4: One we brought him and him and Uda there they're

484
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 4: one two punch and the.

485
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 3: One two punch Jimbo. Like that we turn the page

486
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 3: to Tuesday. James Madison, Duke's going to Wake Forest the

487
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 3: high major that I continue to back and get right

488
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 3: spot every game because every game they're supposed to get right,

489
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 3: but maybe they're just not very good. Do we just

490
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 3: keep fading this kind of falling knife here? Hempom has

491
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 3: this plus seven. I mean, talent wise, Wake Forest we

492
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 3: thought was like top tier, but James Madison one of

493
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 3: those teams kind of like Western Kentucky, a ton of

494
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 3: super talented transfers, has a high variance type of outcome.

495
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 3: You would think, Hi, any interest at all. I feel

496
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 3: like the value here won't be good enough for me

497
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 3: to bite at it. But it's it's worth discussing just

498
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 3: because Wake Forrest is like a team that gets money consistently.

499
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 3: You probably an extra you know, twenty thirty cents in

500
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 3: value on the money line for people bett in Lake Forest.

501
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,239
Speaker 2: But I just don't see it right now.

502
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no way my number will make it seven, unfortunately.

503
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 5: But yeah, Wake is just not it outside the top

504
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 5: two hundred in offense. It's just not what I expected

505
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 5: from this team heading into the season. And Preston Spraddon

506
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 5: is a great coach for James Madison, and they take

507
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 5: a lot of threes, just like South Alabama top thirty eight.

508
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,199
Speaker 5: If they can protect the rock, they can handle the

509
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 5: ball because Wake Forest does press you.

510
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: They're still pretty good on defense. I think they can

511
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: hang around.

512
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there's risk that this is like the Washington

513
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 4: Eastern Washington thing where team that hasn't made any shots

514
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 4: all season suddenly goes fifty percent from three on decent

515
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 4: volume because Wake Forest has been abysmal. They're bottom fifteen

516
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 4: in the country in three point percentage, and it's.

517
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 1: All guys that have made threes in the past.

518
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 4: Hildreth, Sallas, Fredrickson, Like, those guys are good shooters. Maybe

519
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 4: not Hildrith, he kind of shoots skyballs, but Sallas and

520
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 4: Fredrickson especially are not making anything, and at some point

521
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 4: those are going to to go in. So as much

522
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 4: as I'm tempted here, I think James Madison's awesome and

523
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 4: a potential winner of the Sun Belt.

524
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 1: But again, value is not great.

525
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 4: And I am scared of that shooting aggression coming all

526
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 4: at once for the Deeks.

527
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jim, I like your throwing here doesn't really fit

528
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 3: into a neat category, but we do We are in

529
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 3: the business of giving you winners on this program, so

530
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 3: we have to mention value where we find it. Kind

531
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 3: of a cross match between Power Conference Been Major Drake

532
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 3: k State in Kansas City, so a quasi home game

533
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 3: for the Purple Kittens Kai Drake we like kind of

534
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 3: forgot about.

535
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 2: Remember how awesome.

536
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 3: I mean, they still are awesome, but they haven't played

537
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 3: a meaningful game since November twenty fourth, Right, they beat

538
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 3: Vanderbilt to win that MTE, then maybe Georgia Southern in

539
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 3: a sleepy Saturday game and no one paid attention to

540
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 3: They kind of messed around at Valpa, almost lost at

541
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 3: Valpel actually kind of had to stand a late run.

542
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 3: That was December fifth, and then we're off for seven days,

543
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 3: played a non D one team, and now they're a

544
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 3: Case State. So I think it's sort of a maybe

545
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 3: you actually still have value on Drake if you thought

546
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 3: they're awesome because no one's paying attention to him. And

547
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 3: if you think Case State's sort of a payper tie,

548
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 3: you're a kind to Wake Forest. Maybe you just kind

549
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: of punch at that. I like this angle here, hopefully

550
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 3: their dog. We'll see if the market has the stones

551
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 3: to bet Drake to a favorite, But can palm has

552
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 3: it plus to you right now?

553
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

554
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 5: I mean I think everyone wants to bet on Drake period.

555
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 5: Then McCollum's awesome. This team's awesome. Case State doesn't scare me.

556
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 5: It's gonna be no bargain.

557
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 1: I'll say that, though, Yeah, I kind of think it might. Like,

558
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: I think Drake's just better.

559
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 4: I like, having watched both these teams, Kansas State's a

560
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 4: little inflated because they got to play the Pine Bluff

561
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 4: Mattador defense and score one point five points for possession

562
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 4: every other game. They kind of suck and they don't

563
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 4: look like they have any fun together.

564
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: They don't fit.

565
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 4: They just kicked there off the team. There were rumors

566
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 4: that McDaniel might leave the team.

567
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: He hasn't.

568
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 4: He's still there, but like there's just such bad vibes

569
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 4: behind the scenes, and it's like the complete opposite with Drake.

570
00:24:58,680 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: The team looks like they're.

571
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 4: Having a The guys that came from Northwest Missouri State,

572
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 4: they're like, now we're awesome at D one two.

573
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: Look how cool we are.

574
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 4: Like I'm I'm going to be betting Drake even if

575
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 4: they're minus one. I just I think they're better, and

576
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 4: I think they're going to out execute a team that

577
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 4: seems to hate each other.

578
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: When you talk about vibe handicapping sometimes behind the scenes,

579
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 3: and this is like you could do a whole two

580
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 3: thousand word expose of, like the David Goliath of like

581
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 3: the new player player era team versus the old team

582
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 3: team and just like how these two teams are microcosms

583
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: of the good and the peer versus the bad and

584
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 3: the evil and money. And that's kind of a case

585
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 3: State's been you know, scrounded into because of all the

586
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 3: bags they dropped to get this all star team.

587
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,239
Speaker 2: That really isn't that good. It's just not good. So

588
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: we'll see.

589
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll square pegs in round holes foray.

590
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 3: State, although it doesn't give me the law and fuzzies

591
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 3: fading a team that's been off ten days since a loss,

592
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 3: that's you know, objectively.

593
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 2: The more talented team here. So I do where it

594
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 2: could be an angry smash of sorts.

595
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 3: Let's go to the favorite favorites. We were one in

596
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 3: one last week. Houston did what Houston usually does. Now,

597
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 3: they've not been as dominant as a favorite as a

598
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 3: years past, but they you know, they took care of

599
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 3: their business.

600
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 4: Well, they did the odd thing where they covered the

601
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 4: Kempong line of minus nineteen or twenty, but they got

602
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,479
Speaker 4: back to twenty seven in the market and did not

603
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 4: cover that like that.

604
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: That was absurd.

605
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 2: I had them as a cover on my.

606
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's funny, right, Yeah, they got crazy big. It

607
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 4: was just a low scoring slot fest.

608
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you sorry, if you found minus nineteen, Houston,

609
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 3: congrats on your one point where and let me know

610
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 3: what bookie you operate through. I'd like to like to

611
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: be a new customer of that of that shop. And

612
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 3: then yeah, Michigan frustrating, just a frush, fun team, but

613
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 3: frustrating team. The turnovers and Danny Wolf like Barry Jekyl

614
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 3: and Heidial we don't even throw it behind the back

615
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 3: globe trotter passes in the last two minutes, and high, high.

616
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: Leverage games this week.

617
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 3: Couple of spots that we picked out Jim, you wrote

618
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: down you taped Tarloton the Fighting Billy Clydes on Monday

619
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 3: and then Texas Tech versus Oral Roberts.

620
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 2: That one I like.

621
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 3: And I threw in a third bonus one which seems

622
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 3: stupid and I'm gonna probably regret it. But I'm gonna

623
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 3: go back to the poisonous well of East Carolina one

624
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 3: more time. They are hosting FIU. Mike Schwartz after the

625
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 3: game they got absolutely boat raced by you and a

626
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 3: last time out, he said, we are not a good

627
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 3: see right now. There will be major and I mean

628
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: major adjustments made, and that could be batter it could

629
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,479
Speaker 3: be good. I kind of like the match up here

630
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 3: with FIU and a helter skelter game, a team with

631
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 3: more I think talent. Frankly, so that was where I

632
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 3: leaned in. Maybe it's a qualify as the fagorite. It's

633
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: only eight point spread market, like you see if.

634
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: They are they are giving points such.

635
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, but like usually be kind of focused on

636
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 3: the double digits more of the smashy favorites, but the

637
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 3: market bets them pretty I think that's gonna be a

638
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: minus ten. But anyway, so off my ECU soapbox, sham

639
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: UTEP Texas Tech.

640
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: You like both those?

641
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, the UTEP ones all match up. They they're number

642
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 4: two in the country at forcing turnovers. Tarleton is dead

643
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 4: last in the country at turnover rate over thirty percent.

644
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 4: That is insane. They could turn the wall over thirty

645
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 4: times in this game. It's also going to be a

646
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 4: massive walk to the charity stripe on both teams. Both

647
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 4: teams foul a lot defensively, and UTEP is the categorically

648
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 4: better free throw shooting team, which is really weird to say.

649
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 4: That has not been the case in the past. Under

650
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 4: Golding typically a bricky team from the line, but they

651
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 4: actually make them this year. So I think they end

652
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 4: up running out Tarleton and then yeah, Texas tech awful

653
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 4: loss home playing a team that cannot.

654
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: Guard a soul in Oral Roberts.

655
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 4: I will probably lay that kuy, but I bet market

656
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 4: bets it till like thirty one, which is going to

657
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 4: be a different than the Ken Pom spread at twenty six.

658
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, Charleton spreads too big. It's like seventeen in

659
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 5: the actual market right now. So might I might bet

660
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 5: on Tarleton because I think it's gonna be a.

661
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: Cockroach cockroach Texans. Maybe it's going to be.

662
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: An ugly game. They're not a cockroach.

663
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: They were not. They were just they're getting better.

664
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 5: If Freddie Hicks ever debuts, we'll see he's always like

665
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 5: next day, next day.

666
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 4: Whenever they post pictures from practice, He's like feature because

667
00:28:58,920 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 4: you're playing or not.

668
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, that one's weird. Texas Tech should kill l Roberts.

669
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 5: Do I have the stones Leigh twenty six? I don't

670
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 5: know it's twenty six right now. It'll definitely take money.

671
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 5: Like Jim said a couple other ones, I'll just mention

672
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 5: Matthew and we want to talk about him. You don't

673
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 5: want to just Charleston laying three against Watford stood out

674
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 5: to me. I think Charleston covers that go from a

675
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 5: gut perspective. And then Colorado State against Radford. Radford doing

676
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 5: the Utah to Colorado State travel from Saturday to back

677
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 5: to Monday or Tuesday kind of weird is hanging out there?

678
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. Lean towards the rams.

679
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 4: There, Yeah, Carroo State coming from Vegas off that loss,

680
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 4: you could see them being very angry.

681
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know.

682
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: Let's just go right to some of the additional spots

683
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 3: that we wrote down last week. We talked about the

684
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 3: Rutgers in brown spots, and we warned you about the

685
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 3: tax you would be paying to bet those teams in

686
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: terms of the discrepancy between the Kenpom more analytically pure

687
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: line in the market line. But they both panned out Rutgers,

688
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 3: as we've seen many Big ten teams at home play

689
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 3: to a much much much higher number than you think.

690
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 3: And then Brown in the crosstown rivalry against Rhode Island

691
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 3: survived two OT scares for those of you backing the

692
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: Brown Bears. And then I also bid on the col

693
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: hosting Cornell on the east to West coast thing, but

694
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: Cal stanks and Cornell is awesome, and so when you

695
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 3: have a good team, it's a bad scene. The spot

696
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 3: doesn't matter sometimes, so loser for me and others out there.

697
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: Sorry this week to Paul Old won in conference play.

698
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: Looking at that first marquee banner win the Chris Holman

699
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: era double digits at Saint John's. Now we're not saying

700
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: they're gonna beat the Johnny's, but I do like the

701
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: angle here. The Johnnys have been a little bit overpriced,

702
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 3: in my opinion, in the market recently. I just think

703
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 3: they've they don't quite have all of the synchronicity that

704
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: we thought they had to start the year. Kai I

705
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 3: like Holtman in sort of a dog spot, and I

706
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: think he's got enough not talent, may not beat St.

707
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 3: John's collar, but enough depth They won't get run off

708
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: the floor a couple of you know enough ball handler.

709
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: I think they'll be fine.

710
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 5: I think DePaul is gonna be a fun little dog.

711
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 5: Yeah in Big East play and especially double digits because

712
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 5: they can shoot. It's almost like the Honeyline Live Dog Special,

713
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 5: like every single game because they take so many threes,

714
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 5: the number two in the country and percentage of points

715
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 5: scored from the three point line.

716
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: They used other bullets. Last Dame seventeen of thirty three

717
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: against what Chaw State.

718
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 5: For the year, they're shooting four from of the year.

719
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 5: They all can shoot it. He literally recruited guys who

720
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 5: can shoot at every position. It was smart, really smart.

721
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 5: Can they stop Saint John's No, I don't think so,

722
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 5: but uh, I.

723
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: Do think they can hang around with their shooting.

724
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like a high variance one where I mean

725
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 4: maybe you take a look at money line or something.

726
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 4: I don't think they're gonna win, but own one team

727
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 4: that takes a ton of threes and makes a ton

728
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 4: of three seventh in the country and three point attempt

729
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 4: rate and eleventh and three point percentage like that is

730
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 4: just marksmen. It's North Dakota State esque. I almost put

731
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 4: them on that hallow ground. But yeah, I think Saint

732
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 4: John's is gonna have too good of a game plan

733
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 4: and DePaul doesn't have a plan b. So despite that

734
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 4: being an okay spot, I'm not I'm not gonna jump in.

735
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jim, I had the UNLV spot going to Dayton

736
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: written down as well, but then Dayton, it's just sort

737
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 3: of I looked at U and lv's rostered a little closer. Man,

738
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: they just don't have bodies right now. Like I know,

739
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: that was a team that randomly rose against awesome teams

740
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 3: last season and play really well down the stretch, got

741
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: some crazy wins, looked like a tournament team, but didn't

742
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: get in because they didn't actually have the consistency and.

743
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: The and the body of work to do that.

744
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, them going to Dayton, that could be sort

745
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 3: of a Dayton sleepy you find yourself and a dog

746
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 3: fight down two with five to play, and un l

747
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: V has that potential.

748
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: I just don't know if this version of un LV

749
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: has that that juice. So I crossed that off.

750
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: But I like what you're looking at, especially with Dayton

751
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: just off that big win against Barketa, but pretty much

752
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 3: punches their tick in the tournament unless they really shop

753
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: the bed during a ten play like that's a tournament.

754
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: Resume with the bullet, don't cut that out.

755
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 4: But that's I'm just worried about Dayton, like having a

756
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 4: little hangover effect from Yeah, that hurts the spot for

757
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 4: wanting to fade.

758
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: UNLV. You know he's been bad.

759
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: They haven't bad.

760
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: Oh sorry you were saying, Faye, you knowl V. I

761
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 3: was thinking, actually, UNLV okay, gotcha, Okay, I'm with you.

762
00:32:58,920 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

763
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 3: So the other one to hear Sienna against the Bonnies,

764
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: who have been a cover darling and I've just been sleepy.

765
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: I feel like I have this team rated properly. They

766
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 3: just continue to find ways to cover. I don't know

767
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 3: if they're actually as good as they as the ATS

768
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 3: record indicates.

769
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: Kai.

770
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 3: I feel like their schedule is a bunch of teams

771
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: I don't like, and maybe they just actually haven't played

772
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 3: anybody good or teams that were all overvalued to say,

773
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: But yeah, so Sienna, Jerry McNamara, they play some zone.

774
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,239
Speaker 3: They had a couple of decent JUCO players, you know

775
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: New York, you know Western New York rivalry, so to speak.

776
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: I can see maybe Sienna catching the Bonnie Sleepy and

777
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: that one that's on Tuesday, right, yeah, Tuesday.

778
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think the.

779
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 5: Bonnies are quite as good as their ATS record is either.

780
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 5: I think they're solid, but I think they're getting a

781
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 5: little too high up there in the ratings. I mean,

782
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 5: Sianna is not fun to back by any means, but yeah,

783
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 5: I lean your way for sure.

784
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 4: Kind I kind of like this spot for Sienna, even

785
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 4: though I don't like them as a team, but they've

786
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 4: got a couple of good guards. DeSante Bowen was out

787
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 4: for Saint on a venture that basically only point guard.

788
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 4: They're still able to be Providence because Hopkins was a

789
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 4: late scratch and Providence just sucks.

790
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 1: So you know, maybe beating them it's.

791
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 4: Not that much of a great shake, but it is

792
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 4: coming off a big neutral court win against big East team.

793
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 4: I think there could be a little bit of a

794
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 4: weird letdown and this could be a good environment, like

795
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 4: Siana gets a pretty strong crowd.

796
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: Albany's not Western New York, isn't that Sorry?

797
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah sorry, thank you, yeah, thank you, thanks, thank you.

798
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: Forgerecting me on that.

799
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, LSU is back home after losing to our ponies,

800
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 3: who been kind of good by the way. Shouts to

801
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 3: the Pony Express, Andy Enfield Co. Nice little squad out

802
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: there and big d but good team this year in

803
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: Beton Rouge inconsistent. It's a great spot. They're playing sets

804
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 3: and who's horrible? Like you thought they'd be down this

805
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 3: year after making the turnaroun but they're like really really bad.

806
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: Now?

807
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: Will LSU look stupid against sets and zone?

808
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: Certainly c LSU being tied at the half, but LSU

809
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: has done that thing where they put like massive, massive

810
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: runs on bad teams.

811
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: Maybe they smashed sets in there. I did have that

812
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: one as well.

813
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 3: I have no interest in backing that one though officially,

814
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: Jim do you.

815
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 4: No, not really OLiS He's not a great home like

816
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 4: big favorite to me, like take a dumb show.

817
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 2: I just don't trust that team as a favorite.

818
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the spot's good, like these high major

819
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 4: teams back home awful loss against a by game opponent,

820
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 4: like you get a motivated favorite. I just don't know

821
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 4: if that matters enough, Like LSU are they good enough

822
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 4: and disciplined enough to consistently whip teams? And I'm not

823
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 4: sure they are KAI And I'm not going to find

824
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 4: out but it's an SEC team and non conference.

825
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: Remember that, yes, sets's horrible, so don't bet them. And

826
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 3: I'll throw one more in there. This is Monday. By

827
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: the way, I crossed it off because I just was like, yeah,

828
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 3: I passed, But Montana goes to you and I and

829
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 3: Northern Iowa is gonna play. I think they're They played

830
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 3: Friday and now they're going to play Monday. Kind of

831
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 3: a quick, weird turnaround, and they're dealing with some injuries.

832
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 3: They don't have a ton of depth. And Montana, for

833
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: like is you know, they've been good, not great, but

834
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 3: they have a lot of talent and a ton of

835
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 3: upside and maybe this is sort of a spot where

836
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 3: they randomly play really well their pieces all come together.

837
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 3: We talked about how Malik More, the Pepperdine transfer, has

838
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 3: like wildly turned their best player to spite money. Williams there,

839
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: Brandon Whitney, there a litany of other talented guys there

840
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 3: that actually might be a better money line inclusion if

841
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: I could go back and revise, but just one more

842
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: courtesy consideration, I think Montana at You and I could

843
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 3: be a close one.

844
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: In Cedar falls.

845
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: Montana's good.

846
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 4: I'm excited to see them get in conference play where

847
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 4: they're playing more equals that.

848
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: The schedule has been really tough.

849
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, they I mean the South Dakota State one looks great,

850
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 3: but again that was a very fortunate cover because there

851
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 3: was no cloth on that one and they shot the

852
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 3: lights out in Southcota State did not so, but I

853
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 3: still think they are good. The Utah State cam, I

854
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 3: think kind of parts that. Let's quickly take out the trash.

855
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: The trash man pick of the week. I'm the trash man.

856
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: Just throw me the trash, your garbage, and you know it.

857
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: Totally unreliable, undependable. That's it. You've been told off. How

858
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: do you like that?

859
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: Good?

860
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 3: Last week we've discussed some bad teams doing what we

861
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 3: expect them to do. UMKC, who I still think is terrible.

862
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: They did come through for us. Trust that team anymore.

863
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 3: There're too many injuries, Anderson Cops out here and there,

864
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 3: Jamar Brown's out here and there, so.

865
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: Brown's they came through for me on Saturday.

866
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't trust this team. Like, if you wanted

867
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 3: that game, great, I think I had had two covers

868
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 3: on this year.

869
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Put them behind you.

870
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 3: That portfolio will no longer have you mksy the rest

871
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 3: year unless in Tererson cop is back in cooking, which

872
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 3: I have not seen the last week or so. And

873
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 3: then we had oh yeah, we had the Duke Incarnate

874
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 3: word under uh that stupid spot for Duke where they

875
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: had to come back and play a game forty eight

876
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 3: hours later after the Louisville Conference game, and incarnate Word

877
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 3: did cover as well on the sundide.

878
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was on that first half. I thought the

879
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: first half was aaric great look and it came through easily.

880
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: It was awesome.

881
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: I had full game. I was sweating when he got

882
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: to thirty with four to play. But shouts to the

883
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 3: the boys San Antonio for getting it done. Okay, this

884
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: week Towson at Robert Morris, a team in Towsand who

885
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 3: we all loved wanted to be good. The shore Pat

886
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: scary scary as we love him. The Bostonian who's doing

887
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 3: great things both for this year's team's bad. They're hurt,

888
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 3: they don't have depth, and they lacked just kind of

889
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 3: that physical punch or any offensive skill at Robert Morris.

890
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: Andy Toole's got some talented juco guys this season. I

891
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: think it's a better version than we've seen in years past. Again,

892
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 3: this is all trash. We're not trying to hype up

893
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: or beautify this thing, Kai, but I do like I

894
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 3: do lean Bobby mow at Home minus two.

895
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 5: If you want to get involved in the Yeah, dups riding,

896
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 5: I'm not touching taws in the rest of the year.

897
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 5: Something's wrong with this team. They are they're broken. It's

898
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 5: it might be a chemistry issue because they just got

899
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 5: the doors blown off and against Duquane they were ten

900
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 5: for thirty five from two in that game, ten for

901
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 5: thirty five from two. Something is drastically wrong. They got

902
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 5: smoked by UNBC. I don't get it. I don't know

903
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 5: what's really happened to this team, but they're bad. I

904
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 5: would not feel comfortable back in them against any team

905
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 5: in the country right now.

906
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, at this rate, this would be the first pat

907
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 4: Scary team in fifteen years at top to not rank

908
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 4: in the top fifty of offensive rebound rate. Like that's

909
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 4: just that's what they do every single year. They pound

910
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 4: you on the glass, and this team's not really doing that.

911
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 4: They're good, but not great in that area, and they

912
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 4: haven't fixed anything else. Like they can't shoot, they can't

913
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 4: make layups. It's like ka I said, if we're vibe

914
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 4: handicapping that the touswives are horrific. And I think Robert

915
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 4: Morris is at least a little more competent with cam

916
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 4: Woods back in the lineup. He gives them a lot

917
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 4: more offensive pop when he was out. They couldn't score,

918
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 4: but I would I would definitely lean hard towards Robert

919
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 4: Morris in that game.

920
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 3: So of note, the Duquane game was played at Lebron

921
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 3: James Arena, and so Drew Joyce was never going to

922
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 3: lose that game like the Stars Reborees forces at like

923
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: you never. So I give him a pass for that one.

924
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: But still four and seven on the year. When you

925
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: lose it at home to NBC by thirteen, I kind

926
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 3: of think they've May mailed an until conference play. Even then,

927
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if they have any like you know,

928
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: bounce back potential at this point, especially if Tahada and

929
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 3: May are going to be shells themselves or just non

930
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 3: exist at all. TI other last section here real quickly,

931
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 3: I want to spotlight a few more spots than I start.

932
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: As I went in the card for the upcoming week too. Specifically,

933
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 3: KAI get your take on East coast to West coast trips.

934
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 3: Merrimack going to Stanford, Florida A and M going to Utah.

935
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: I think both teams lose by thirty plus easily, and

936
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: I like Merrimack relatively. I like four A and M relatively.

937
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 3: I hate these trips. These games mean absolutely nothing. They're

938
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: playing two coaches in Craig Smith and Kyle Smith, who

939
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: pretty consistently put these mid majors love Majors in the

940
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 3: grinder and win by margins, So those will be two

941
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 3: I think auto fades for me.

942
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: I just want to throw that out there.

943
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: Definitely Florida A and M.

944
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Utah smashed them. I don't like Fatie.

945
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 5: Merrimack is a big dog. I just think they're they're

946
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 5: junk Zone Man is so hard to prepare for and

947
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 5: so funky you've never seen it, So I'm not super

948
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 5: comfortable with that one.

949
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: Where are you guys out on Utah? Overall, like, they've

950
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: been pretty good, and they're.

951
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 4: Defense good because they're huge, one of the biggest teams

952
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 4: in the country, but they've they've mostly gotten by just

953
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 4: blowing out teams at home in elevation. They haven't really

954
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 4: done a whole lot against good teams yet, but I'm

955
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 4: starting to I'm coming around.

956
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: I'm going around on the utes.

957
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I will be on the utes for sure.

958
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: You're right.

959
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: The Merrimack thing kind of scare me.

960
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 3: I just in historically they haven't actually played well against

961
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: premier teams. I just don't think Gallo cares about those games,

962
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 3: like he really tries to save his bullets for conference play,

963
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 3: as we're starting to see so far in the NAAC.

964
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 3: So again, weird spot, weird schedule. Let's transition into our recap.

965
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: Why you're all here, picks, winners, predictions. My first two

966
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: I'm going to go with those two. I mentioned Stanford

967
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 3: and Utah. I'm still kind of pondering as I look

968
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 3: through the West. We discussed here what I'm officially taking.

969
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: I will go South Alabama money line for a third

970
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 3: official for me, and then I mentioned my ECU versus

971
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 3: FIU in the favorite favorites pondering Drake Jim, I'll go

972
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: to you. What's your official slate here? I might add

973
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 3: that might be my fifth official, so four confirmed, fifth

974
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 3: on the fence.

975
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, my favorite bet of these two days. Monday Tuesday

976
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: is Drake.

977
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 4: I will be on the Bulldogs, just watching them out

978
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 4: execute a team that, like I said, does not seem

979
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 4: to like.

980
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: Each other or really be that well coached. Sorry mister Tang,

981
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: but you don't look like you don't look at right now?

982
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 4: Okay State, So Drake, and then of the big games,

983
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 4: definitely seat in Hall. If it's double digits, I'll be

984
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 4: backing them against Villanova, and I think I'm going to

985
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 4: be able to get there on Florida as long as

986
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 4: they're laying three or less. I don't maybe let up

987
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 4: being five or something because flour is just rolling, but

988
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 4: hopefully three or last and I can be on the Gators.

989
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna sprinkle South album money line with you, Matthew.

990
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 4: I think it's high enough variance game against a bad

991
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 4: favorite utep and Texas Tech in the favorite favorites, I

992
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 4: think they can blow out, although Kai mentioning the actual

993
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 4: price on utep A maybe not.

994
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: It's a little high, so I guess I'll withdraw that

995
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: or go half unit or something.

996
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 4: And then Sienna, I think this spot's really good against

997
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 4: Saint Bonaventure that could be ugly. Saint bonavent is way better.

998
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 4: But the spot's there and Bowen's still out for Bonnie's.

999
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 4: I think that hurts them.

1000
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, not too dissimilar from Gym Seaton Hall against Villanova.

1001
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 5: I'm going South Alabama's well against TCU. I do think

1002
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 5: Texas Tech takes care of business and smashes Soil Roberts.

1003
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 5: I think Utah smashes four A and M. I do

1004
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 5: like the Sianna spot against the Bonnies, and I will

1005
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 5: go with Drake. I just have to.

1006
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: I love this team. There you go until they die.

1007
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, every night there's always one bet that's like the

1008
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: obvious bet that people are like. Some people are like, oh,

1009
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 3: that's a public bet, which means nothing, by the way,

1010
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: but it wins, and you're just like, oh, that was

1011
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 3: gonna win the whole time.

1012
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: Why don't I. That's this Drake bet. So I'm with you.

1013
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: I'm joining that.

1014
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 3: So I officially have five. We also mentioned a couple

1015
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 3: of totals in there, folks, so go back, pay attention.

1016
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 2: Not a fit.

1017
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: We're more than the sides business on this program. But

1018
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 3: when we have totals takes, we're not afraid toss them

1019
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 3: out there. That's all we have come back and join

1020
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 3: us next Monday. As we preview, it should be a

1021
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: pretty weird next week slate of games, frankly with the

1022
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: Christmas holiday break looming. Maybe some fun spots, a little

1023
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 3: diamond Head Classic conversation, we'll see until that time. This

1024
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 3: is the BBOC. Matt Cox, Kai mcke and Jim Root

1025
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,520
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