1 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: by my partner in crime, Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to 4 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: you hear from our studios at lambeau Field and West. 5 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: The Baltimore Ravens are in town. Shortly after we are 6 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: done recording this episode, we will be heading to the 7 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: practice field to watch the joint practice against the Ravens 8 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: and the bottom line er I guess the big picture 9 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: is this. This is a team coming into Green Bay 10 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: that is going to present an interesting challenge on both 11 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: sides of the ball for the Packers here, because if 12 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: you look at what Jordan Love and the offense will 13 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: be up against, that's the defense that led the league 14 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: last year in points allowed or allowed the fewest points 15 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: in the league and ranked sixth. I believe it was 16 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: in yards allowed on the flip side of things. The 17 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: quarterback on the other side, when the Packers' number one 18 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: defense is on the field getting their work this afternoon, 19 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: will be two time MVP and Raining League MVP Lamar Jackson. 20 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: In some ways, you couldn't ask for a better challenge, 21 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: a better tune up regardless of whether the starters play 22 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 1: on Saturday in the preseason game or not. For either team, 23 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: This joint practice is about as intense and exciting a 24 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: way to wrap up training camp as you could ask for. 25 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure that was part of the alchemy too, 26 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: and they were figuring out exactly this training camp schedule 27 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: and what they were going to do as far as 28 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: joint practices and how that's going to be concerned. I mean, 29 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: I go back to twenty nineteen and I know it 30 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: was something we all kind of remember, was the Packers 31 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: played a lot of their defensive starters against Labar and 32 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: the starting offense from the Ravens in the first half, 33 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: and Jackson really took it to him in that matchup. 34 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: I mean it was he was pretty flawless. I don't 35 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: maybe there was like two or three incompletions. I mean, 36 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: he was very efficient. And when you have somebody that 37 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: is his mix of size, athleticism, speed, there's just so 38 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: much to like about that. And there's a reason why 39 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: he's a multiple time MVP now because of what he 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: brings to the table in that capacity. So, yeah, that's 41 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 2: going to change. That's going to change, you know how 42 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 2: these guys rush him. It's going to change how you 43 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: defend him. It's going to change all these different attributes 44 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: that you have to account for in the quarterback position, 45 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: in addition to the fact they have a lot of 46 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: really talented weapons around them too. And you look at 47 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 2: Mark Andrews and you know the receiving corps, certainly Dereck 48 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: Henry now being in that backfield. 49 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another that's a new look for a Baltimore backfield. 50 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: Suddenly Derrick Henry, the old Tennessee Titan is is back there, 51 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: ready to carry the rock. 52 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it'll be uh, you know, it's the challenge 53 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: you look for in these matchups and seeing exactly what 54 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: you can get out of them. Yeah. 55 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: And on the defensive side, I was looking up some 56 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: of the statistics the the Ravens bring back two of 57 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: their top three pass rushers in terms of sacks from 58 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: last year, justin Mattabueke if I'm pronouncing that, Correll done, 59 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: and also Kyle van Noy. Those two guys combined for 60 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: about twenty two sacks last season. And then in the secondary, 61 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: their leading interceptor last year was Gino Stone, who is 62 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: no longer with them, But you still have a cornerback 63 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: like Marlon Humphrey. You have and a safety, a guy 64 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: who's really rising to become one of the more well 65 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: known and more dynamic safeties in the league. And Kyle Hamilton, 66 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: the Notre Dame product who they was a first first 67 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: round pick. On Hamilton, I can't remember for sure now 68 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: if it was, if he was a late first round pick. 69 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: He was a first rounder, I was a second Okay, 70 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude, he was. He was fourteenth over. 71 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: Oh he was fourteenth overall, so he's a mid first 72 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: round Okay, okay, But anyway, Kyle Hamilton a very dynamic 73 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: player and a guy who's really start to get a 74 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: lot more national recognition. This is gonna be an interesting 75 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: test for Jordan Love for this receiving corps. You know, obviously, 76 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: with the running game and Josh Jacobs, I'm sure he's 77 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: gonna get work like he did in the joint practice 78 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: with the Broncos where Jacob's got the ball quite a bit. 79 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: He still don't really know how to totally evaluate the 80 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: running game when guys aren't tackling all the way to 81 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: the ground and whatnot. But from what we've heard from 82 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur. It sounds like how this practice goes, and 83 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: how Matt Lafleur feels about the work that his first 84 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: units get and how they perform both offensively and defensively 85 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: against the Ravens in this practice will determine whether or 86 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: not the starters are going to play in Saturday afternoon's 87 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: preseason finale or if they're going to sit like the 88 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: Denver game. And then it all gets turned over to 89 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: the second and third units for the full sixty minutes 90 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: on Saturday. So that's the big TBD of the week, 91 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: so to speak. But I think this should be a 92 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: fun practice to watch. 93 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also from the standpoint of you know, you 94 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: look at what Baltimore accomplished last year defensively, there's a 95 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: reason why their coaching staff got completely pilfered in terms of, 96 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: you know, head coaching opportunities, defensive coordinator opportunity. There's so 97 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 2: much talent there on that side of the ball as well. 98 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: And now as far as the team side of it goes, 99 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: most of it is still on this squad. So I'm 100 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 2: very interested to see. You know, when you look at 101 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 2: a guy like Kyle Hamilton, for example, I think it's 102 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 2: it's one of those guys that when we do our 103 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: draft prep every year, you see these names and you 104 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: see them become stars and in all pros in this 105 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: league and guys that have really been able to separate themselves. 106 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 2: Hamilton has been one of those guys and one of 107 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: the things I have the ultimate respect for, whether it's 108 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: bringing in a guy like Rokwan Smith or is it 109 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: just finding guys to the draft. The Baltimore Ravens always 110 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: develop defensive talent. Well, so when you're talking about a 111 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers offensive line that's still trying to answer 112 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: some questions here about what that starting five is going 113 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: to look like, who's going to be swing tackle, who's 114 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: going to be your next guy up at center. These 115 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: are the type of matchups, just even in just two 116 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: hour practice, that are going to be able to challenge 117 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: you schematically a little bit in that way. And then 118 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: also for the Packers' safeties and maybe even Keyshawn Nixon 119 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: seeing a guy like Mark Andrews lining up against you 120 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 2: as well. When the Packers this is you know, for 121 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: as much as has been made about them traveling for 122 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: these joint practices for as long as I can remember, 123 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: there's been opportunities for teams to come into Green Bay, 124 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 2: and yeah, you look think back to the Houston Texas practice. 125 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: It's not always perfect. Sometimes it's a little too vanilla. 126 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: Maybe nothing really happens other than you know, a player 127 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 2: unfortunately getting injured. But I think when you've seen the 128 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: practice against the New England Patriots, against the New Orleans Saints, 129 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: some of these ones we've had in recent years, Robert 130 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 2: Salain the Jets because there was that friendship factor and 131 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: that respect factor between the two head coaches. There's been 132 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: some really good work done on lambeau Field and with 133 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 2: somebody like John Harbow, one of the longest tenured, if 134 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: not the longest tenured coach now in the National Football League, 135 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: but him are or actually would probably Mike tom. 136 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: Think I think it's Mike Tomlin, but John Arbaugh is 137 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: not far behind. 138 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: Well established coach, well established program, and the Packers are 139 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: gonna get a real let miss tests there for where 140 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: they're at here during this final week camp. 141 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you look at the defense having to deal 142 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson, obviously you look ahead to week one, 143 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, Jalen Hurts of the Philadelphia Eagles, now 144 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: not the same type of mobile, dualt dual threat quarterback, 145 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: but a very mobile dual threat quarterback. And at least 146 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of preparation in that regard getting 147 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: the real deal, so to speak, as opposed to just 148 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: somebody running the scout team and whatnot in practice leading 149 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: up to Week one. When you talk about matchups, the 150 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: interesting one and it's not necessarily like a head to 151 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: head kind of thing or a one on one kind 152 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: of thing. But Lamar Jackson JayR Alexander. We don't know 153 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: if we will see it on Saturday in the preseason game, 154 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: but these two guys Louisville products, they go back quite 155 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: a way, as they've known each other for a long time, 156 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: and it's it'll be under to see, you know is 157 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: I would imagine we're going to get the rather vociferous 158 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: JayR Alexander on the practice field today. He's not gonna 159 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: hold back with the jawing and the talking and the 160 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: yelling and what not to just to see if he 161 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: can get under his old Louisville teammate skin just a 162 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: little bit. 163 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: Of yeah, and the love that those two guys have 164 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: for each other. I always go back to that twenty 165 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: eighteen draft where you know, Jaws and the Middle getting 166 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: interviewed about getting selected by the Packers. It's the end 167 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: of the first round and he's literally on camera as 168 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson is being taken thirty second overall by the 169 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens, and JayR just completely stops everything he's doing 170 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: and just celebrates. Because one, there's a natural respect there, 171 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: there's a friendship there. But I think it's also the 172 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: fact that these are two guys that have had chips 173 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: on their shoulders. Now, Lamar Jackson has long been considered 174 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 2: an elite NFL talent, elite college prospect, but you go 175 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: back to those questions at the NFL Scout and Combine 176 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen. 177 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: I remember, I remember that interview like it was yesterday. 178 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: That was That was where I learned a little something 179 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: about Lamar Jackson because he kept getting asked by all 180 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: these national reporters who are there about about moving to 181 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: receiver and you know, are you gonna try this? Are 182 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: you going to try that? He just he got to 183 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: where he was almost laughing because he just kept saying, 184 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm a quarterback, I'm gonna play quarterback, and that wasn't 185 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: the consensus necessarily at the time, and maybe it was 186 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: more of a media narrative than it was an actual 187 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: NFL personnel narrative. I don't really know. I wasn't I 188 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: wasn't privy to all that, but he was absolutely one 189 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: hundred percent certain he was a quarterback in this league. 190 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: He was not going to be moved around to play 191 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: other positions. The guys won two MVPs and done a 192 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: heck of a lot. And what's left for him now, 193 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: which of course is the pressure that's on his shoulders now, 194 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: is to get the Ravens to a Super Bowl someday. 195 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: And from Jaiyere's standpoint, the story's well documented, the fact 196 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: that you know, he was kind of an overlooked prospect 197 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: coming out of Charlotte. He eventually goes to Louisville, becomes 198 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: a first round plus, you know, first round draft pick. 199 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: The amount of success that he had there, not only 200 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 2: as a cornerback but as a punt returner. I mean, 201 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: those those two guys were just the cornerstones of that 202 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: program and the time that they were there. And now 203 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 2: to be on the other end of it, it's one 204 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: thing I'm really hoping to hear from JayR about this 205 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: on Thursday, where he took his himself and how he 206 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: made himself into this and just how far those two 207 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,599 Speaker 2: guys have come now where you know, Lamar Jackson just 208 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 2: isn't an MVP. He's an MVP quarterback, right and Jai 209 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: Air is a two time All Pro cornerback. So you know, 210 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: but you know, by the time his post practice will 211 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: already be over. But it will be interesting to see 212 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 2: those two guys kind of joust a little bit. I'm 213 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: sure there's gonna be a couple times where Lamar is 214 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: gonna he's gonna test his old friend a little bit. 215 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, he's going to go after him 216 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,239 Speaker 1: at some point. I think that's I think that's inevitable. 217 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: And you know that JayR is going to try to 218 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: bait his old friend into into throwing something you might 219 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: be able to get his hands on. So there's gonna 220 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a little bit of a cat and 221 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: mouse game going on out there. 222 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 2: And that was one little interaction I had with JayR 223 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: in the locker room earlier this week, because I had 224 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 2: actually forgotten that they had played, that they both were 225 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: on the field during that twenty nineteen preseason game. I'd 226 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: forgotten all about that, and it was pretty interesting hearing 227 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: him talk about how he had not forgotten that. Yeah. 228 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 2: Over one of the points of that matchup, Lamar actually 229 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: jumped over him on a would be tackle, which was 230 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: going into the second season for both of those guys 231 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: at that point. It's special and it'll be cool to see, 232 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: if you know, maybe each shire can get a little 233 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 2: bit of retribution. 234 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I do want to get your thoughts on 235 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: what we're thinking about what we're watching for in this 236 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: preseason finale coming up on Saturday. But I'll take care 237 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: of some sponsor business. First. 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That doesn't 247 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: get much better than that one at Lambo. 248 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: We very rarely have gotten it at Lambo. 249 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, You've got a couple of road ones looming 250 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: after that. After Saturday's game at lambeau Field will be 251 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: the rosters decisions. The cut down two fifty three players 252 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: will take place on Tuesday. The deadline is Tuesday afternoon, 253 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: and then there's actually it's less than a twenty four 254 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: hour period there of the officially of the waiver wire 255 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: than before. Players who clear waivers that can then be 256 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: re signed to practice squads as all the teams around 257 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: the league get to their group of sixty nine, the 258 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: fifty three plus the sixteen that they will take into 259 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: Week one, and then everybody begins their preparations for the 260 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: Week one opponents. So, with the roster decisions looming and 261 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: everything that is on the line for so many of 262 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: these plays on Saturday at Lambellfield, what are you watching for? 263 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: Heart? The grit, the strain that that Matt Lafleur has 264 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 2: talked about, And obviously Matt kind of changed his tune 265 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: a little bit this week as he reviewed the film 266 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: from Denver. But I mean that is, ultimately the decisions 267 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: will be made on Tuesday based in terms of the 268 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: bubble players, based on a lot of how this stuff goes. 269 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: And I wrote about an insider inbox for Thursday Morning 270 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 2: in that you know, there's been a handful of guys 271 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 2: Mike and my twelve years doing this now that have 272 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 2: made the roster based strictly on how they performed. Obviously, 273 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: you had to have a decent camp. You could just 274 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: come out of completely no when, right, But you know, again, 275 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 2: I think the best example that was James Crawford, I 276 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: think in twenty eighteen, where this was a guy Mike 277 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: that came in during training camp and we all were 278 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 2: kind of like, okay, well, I think he was Charles 279 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: Woodson's cousin or there was some familiar relationship there, and 280 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: next thing you know, he ends up making the roster 281 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 2: as a special teams guy. 282 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: Right. 283 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: There are those stories every year, and also like the 284 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: Justin McCrae, the guys that end up playing two hundred 285 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: snaps in the preseason, although that's pretty hard to do 286 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: now with only three games, but back in the day, yeah, four, 287 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 2: and then suddenly they're starting eight, nine, ten games for 288 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: you during the regular season. This is about Jordan Love 289 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: and in the top skill position players and who's going 290 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: to be the starting right guard and who's going to 291 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,119 Speaker 2: be the swing tackle, like those things all are are paramount, 292 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: but this is ultimately the final audition for the guys 293 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: that are trying to live their NFL dreams. Unfortunately, there 294 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: every year there are guys that will play their final 295 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: NFL game this weekend on both sides. For the Green 296 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: Bay Packers, trying to figure out who that that we 297 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: talk so much about the fifty three, they're trying to 298 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: find that seventy and who's going to ultimately be with 299 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: them on the practice squad and be available with them 300 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: throughout the course of the season, because as we saw 301 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: last year, it can be Christian Welch coming up, it 302 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: can be Corey Ballentine playing some major snaps in the 303 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: second half the season after they didn't make the final cuts. 304 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: So almost in another example, guy like Bowl Melton, who 305 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: did you know was that as well? I want to 306 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: backtrack to what because you mentioned Matt Lafleur kind of 307 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: walking back his comments a little bit about the effort 308 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: and whatnot from the preseason game in Denver, because Sunday night. 309 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: He was clearly frustrated with how things had transpired there. 310 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: It had been such a struggle, particularly on offense, to 311 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: get things going, and he did kind of call out 312 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: the players a little bit for the effort and the 313 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: grid and whatnot. But then he walked that back after 314 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: he saw the film. But I was reminded then from 315 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: what he said when he did walk that comment back, 316 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: because he said he said it really was an execution issue, 317 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: and the lack of execution was rooted in mental errors 318 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: across the board. You know where players were, whether you're 319 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: talking about running the wrong route or just executing the 320 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: wrong assignment, whatever the case might be. And that's a 321 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: reminder for me, a reminder for us. I think that 322 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: when we try to make our little predictions, you know 323 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: who we think is going to make the team and 324 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: who's not. We don't know who's out there making mental 325 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,119 Speaker 1: air right like we're trying to we're trying to judge performance. 326 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: We see what happens, we see the results of plays. 327 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: We don't know the guys who are who are getting 328 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, who are getting graded by the coaches in 329 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: the grade books with with mental mistakes and when you 330 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: get this far, you've had all of OTAs. Now, granted, 331 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: some players have come in at different times, but for 332 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,239 Speaker 1: the bulk of the players, you've had all of OTAs 333 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: and a mini camp, all of these public practices, plus 334 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: numerous walkthroughs and jog throughs and everything else, and you 335 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: get all the way to the third preseason game. Nobody's 336 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: going to be perfect, but the expectation is that the 337 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: mental errors are going to start going down, and if 338 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: players are still out there making mental errors, they might 339 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: be able to make a splash player two. And everybody's 340 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: talking about, oh, well, that guy looks like he's going 341 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: to make the team. How can they leave him off 342 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: the team? Well, just remember there are things that we 343 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: don't necessarily know in terms of what's going on in 344 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: terms of how these players are graded. So that was 345 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: a reminder for me to hear him say that, Oh yeah, 346 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: like not every not every guy does everything he's supposed 347 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: to do on a give and play, and that's part 348 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: of how the players are evaluated. For me, two key 349 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: pieces that I'm watching in this last preseason game. One 350 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: is the obvious the backup quarterbacks Sean Clifford, Michael Pratt. 351 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: Neither guy was happy with how the game went in Denver. 352 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: Both guys, I think are very determined to bounce back 353 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: to play much more like they played in the Cleveland 354 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: game as opposed to the Denver game. And there's a 355 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: lot on the line for those guys, and we don't 356 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: know if the Packers are going to keep three quarterbacks 357 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: on the fifty three or if one of those guys 358 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: is going to get exposed to waivers and whatever the 359 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: decisions are there, we'll see what happens. But then the 360 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: other thing is kind of what you were talking about, 361 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: with somebody who can always rise up in that last 362 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: preseason game and get themselves a roster spot. It usually 363 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: would happen on special teams, and the Packers are still 364 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: trying to figure out exactly, you know, what is going 365 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: to be the best combination of guys for special teams. 366 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: Are there certain guys they can keep on special teams 367 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: that they can still rely on as depth on defense? 368 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: Are there some guys that, even if you know they're 369 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: quite always down the depth chart on defense, but they're 370 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: good enough on special teams that Rich Bassacia needs those 371 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: guys for the kickoff and punt return and coverage units 372 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: and all that to be as good as the Packers 373 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: need them to be to get to where they want 374 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: to go. So those are the two biggest areas for me. 375 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are going to talk 376 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: wide receivers and et cetera, but for me, it's about 377 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: the backup quarterbacks and about the special teams units in 378 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: this last game. 379 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's funny too, because, like you'll see every year, 380 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: there'll be a receiver, it will be a cornerback that 381 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 2: have a big game, and in that matters. I mean, 382 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 2: it certainly matters trying to make a fifty three, but 383 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: a lot of times it comes down to wells, who's 384 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: on those first team special teams units, who's getting those reps, 385 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 2: who's being able to have that opportunity, who's making a tackle? 386 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: You know, I was last week. I mean, no one's 387 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 2: going to write about it, but you know, I think 388 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: Zan Anderson's had a really strong in terms of a 389 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: personal protector, sometimes a gunner, a guy that can get downfield. 390 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 2: We've talked about every single one of these safeties, but 391 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 2: you think about the special teams aspect of it, it's 392 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 2: a different game. It's a different phase and all that 393 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: stuff is ultimately, what comes down to how you construct 394 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 2: to fifty three. And I think Tom Silverstain asked a 395 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 2: really salient question to Matt Lafleur on Wednesday when he 396 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: was talking about, you know, now that this team's a 397 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: little bit older, you don't have as many young guys anymore. 398 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: Can you afford to keep maybe a couple more special 399 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 2: teams stalwart type players that aren't going to necessarily give 400 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: you a ton on defense or a defense, but are 401 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 2: going to be able to really help you in that phase. 402 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 2: And I was thinking in the back of my head 403 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: as Tom asked that, and Matt agreed, He's like, yeah, 404 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: I mean this is you know, it all depends, but 405 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 2: I mean that's obviously possibility. But I was thinking of 406 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 2: the back of my head. With as many rule changes 407 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 2: there are with the kickoffs this year, with as many 408 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: different ways that this league has really stretched and pulled 409 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 2: at special teams, you need people that are on top 410 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 2: of it, not just for that one position, but to 411 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: be able to set the tone. I mean, there's a 412 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 2: reason why you want to have an Eric Wilson on 413 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 2: your football team. I saw it when I was watching 414 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 2: some of the special teams periods on Wednesday, and also 415 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: in last the preseason game and some of these other things. 416 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the general out there. That's the one 417 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: that's telling everybody here, here's what we're doing out here. 418 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 2: Those type of players matter. And now seeing exactly who 419 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: could emerge there and weighing, okay, the proven veterans against 420 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: some of these young guys that might take a little time, 421 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: but you know, who could potentially have some really long 422 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 2: term value for you. That's the game that Brian Goodkinson 423 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: and scouts have to play. 424 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's interesting how there are always difficult decisions 425 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: to be made every year. But as much as that 426 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: becomes kind of a broken record every year, the context 427 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: within these difficult decisions that are made is always changing, right, 428 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: because of the makeup of your team, whether you're talking 429 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: whether you're talking the youth versus the age, whether you're 430 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: talking areas of the team that you want to improve, 431 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: areas of the team that you feel. You have these 432 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: young prospects who are coming along, and you know, maybe 433 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: you don't want to expose them to waivers because you 434 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: want to keep them and be able to develop them, 435 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: and you don't want somebody else to claim them all 436 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. The context is always is always 437 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 1: shifting and always changing based on where your team is, 438 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: and this Packers team twelve months later is in a 439 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: very different place than where last year's was. Where you're 440 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: making the transition at quarterback. You have a whole bunch 441 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: of brand new rookies, young guys on offense that are 442 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: you know, you're building this cast around your new franchise quarterback. 443 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: The Packers got went a long way in that very 444 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: first year to where now the context and these decisions 445 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: being made for twenty twenty four, it feels very different. 446 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: At least it does to me. 447 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: And we saw throughout the course of that season, Michael, 448 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: how every single win, whether it was in Week one 449 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: or Week eighteen, they all matter, they all count. This 450 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: is all critical to the final puzzle, absolutely, and seeing 451 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 2: who's going to help you get there. I don't know 452 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 2: how this is going to shuffle out as far as 453 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: the personnel that at this time in which we're taping this, 454 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: Mattleafleur himself might not fully know. But this is the 455 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: last this is the last leapfrog here, This is the 456 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: last chance, this is the last opportunity to sort of 457 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 2: propel yourself into the regular season and you know, whether 458 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: it's the reserves, whether it's the starters, figuring out if 459 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: we're going to be able to be the team that 460 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: everybody wants us to be. Those expectations they get set 461 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 2: and now you have to rise to them. 462 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, well, with that, we will call it a 463 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to 464 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: follow all of our coverage of the joint practice with 465 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: the Ravens, the preseason game with the Ravens, as training 466 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: camp wraps up here. We will have it all for 467 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: you on Packers dot Com. With regard to this show, 468 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: Packers Unscripted with roster cuts next week on Tuesday, we 469 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: need to kind of let the dust settle with regard 470 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: to that, so we will just have one show next 471 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: week instead of two, and we will be waiting until 472 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster has been selected and hopefully 473 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: we'll know everything about the practice squad as well, and 474 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: we can discuss all of that when we return to 475 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: these chairs a week from now. So for Wes, I 476 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: am Mike, thank you for tuning in. Everybody. We will 477 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: see you next time.