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LSU suffers a loss. They lose 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:32.360 their assistant coach, Joe Brady. He goes to the Panthers, 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:35.080 where at the rifled age of thirty, I believe the 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:39.920 youngest offensive coordinator in the NFL. Also, there's a documentary 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:44.800 out on with Netflix on Aaron Hernandez. Dan Wetzel, the 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:48.160 great columnist from Yahoo Sports, one of the executive producers. 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:49.680 He will join us a little bit later on to 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.680 talk about that. It is really well done three part 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:56.040 documentary on Aaron Hernandez. If you like get in touch 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.120 with the program, you can in a variety of ways 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.120 now that Mario figured out that there are emails to 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.440 get each morning. Yes, you can email us DP of 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:06.679 Dan Patrick dot com. You can dial us up each 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.600 seven and seven three VP show and say a little 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.959 to Mario when he answers the phone, and our Twitter 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:14.320 handle at DP show mclovin will handle that. Yes, Paul. 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:16.520 The problem is we have such a backlog of emails. 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:19.000 Mario's been bringing things like, Hey, I think this North 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.239 Dakota State quarterback Carson Wentz is going to be something. 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.240 What are your thoughts, Dan, Yeah, there's a little bit 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.760 of a backlog there. It's okay. I'm fine with that. 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.200 We'll eventually get around to it, just like the calendars are. 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:33.919 We are finally finally done with the calendars. We signed 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:36.720 them all and I think that we're going to be 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:40.240 able to get everything out by the end of this week. No, 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.600 we're supposed to buy back. No, No, we're getting those out. Yes, 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.760 just in time for Christmas. Yes, just in time for 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:50.920 Valentine's Day. And of course i'm mister February. Yes. Time. 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:52.440 Is there a cut up on this because it seems 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:54.400 like every other day there's a whole lineup of new 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:57.240 calendars in the back, and we're signing like crazy form 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:58.880 like alas f of the show, which is fine. I 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:00.920 didn't know if you're putting a dead line on, you know, 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.960 not taking them in anymore when they're coming. You can 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.360 always help Mario if you want to. Oh, yeah, exactly, 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.680 pass Yeah, yes, boys. Maybe our next calendar we shoot 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.080 should be the twenty twenty two calendar and we put 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:15.800 it out this time next year, because then they'll get 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:20.560 to the people right on TIMEO. Wow, no offense, no offense. 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:24.040 Take I'm sure with Mario. But yeah, we're getting all 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:27.320 the calendars out and hopefully you'll you'll be getting those 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.440 by next week as we promised. Now, if you go 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:33.320 to the website the Green Bay Packers fans, I got 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:36.040 your T shirt for you. I got yellow Weasel up there, 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:40.760 the Aaron Rodgers. I never thought in my career i'd 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:42.840 be saying, hey, you can get a yellow Weasel T 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:46.440 shirt go to Dan Patrick dot com. That's the audible 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.160 call by Aaron Rodgers. So Packer fans have been very 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.400 loyal when we put out a T shirt, certainly when 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.680 it's related to Aaron Rodgers. But you can go on 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:55.719 the website and you can see other T shirts that 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:59.560 we have available, including the Patrick Mahomes T shirt What's 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:05.320 Up Ma That's they're available as well. Luke Keickley retired 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:08.400 yesterday and he had a great career. Seven Pro Bowl 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:12.320 appearances in eight years. He was five time first team 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:15.680 All Pro. Hall of Fame voters look at that. They're 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.960 not as interested in the Pro Bowl appearances as they 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.920 are you're a first team All Pro, which Luke Keikley 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.599 was five times. He was the Defensive Player of the Year. 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:27.960 But with Keikley, you're going to remember a lot of 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.040 good things, but you'll also remember one of the more 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:34.480 notable concussions in recent history. He was carted off the 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:38.760 field in twenty sixteen. He was crying uncontrollably after suffering 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:42.920 a head injury. And concussions haven't been front and center, 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:47.000 certainly not lately in the NFL. The movie Concussion with 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:50.280 Will Smith came and went. This year's been about great 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.279 TV ratings and the sports seems to be thriving, but 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.839 Keikley's decision to retire at twenty eight as a reminder 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:00.240 of just how dangerous head injuries still are, and even 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.520 with the league changing the rules to protect players. This 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.400 sport will never be completely safe, and it's one of 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:07.800 the dilemmas we have as a football fan. Your root 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:11.360 like crazy. We love these collisions. We love guys who 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.799 are physical, but the players we love, like Luke Keikley, 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.599 you want them to have a long, healthy life. And 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.680 he does have money. Now. I do think that this 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:24.360 is I can't say it's a smart decision. It's his decision. 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.160 Do I think it's the right decision? Yes, And I 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:29.839 hope it's not too late. I don't know if he 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.640 you know, maybe there's information here that he got that 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.479 is going to scare you. And when he was with us, 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.000 this was at the Super Bowl a couple of years 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.760 ago in Minnesota, and I talked to him about these 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:45.599 concussions because when you see a player get hurt and 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:50.560 he's crying uncontrollably and can't stop because of his concussion, 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.279 how scary that is. And he's played that way. You 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.719 go back to Boston College and watch Luke KEI click. 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.760 He was a battering ram and that's that position has 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:03.840 a collision on every play, and usually a violent collision 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:07.279 on every play. Your goal is to have a violent 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:11.320 collision on every play. That means you're tackling somebody, knocking 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:16.200 somebody down. Here's keekly talking about the difficulties of a concussion. 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:18.800 I just think it's it's one of those situations where 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.920 I think what makes it so difficult is every every 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.920 concussion is different. You know. I always tell people, you know, 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.720 when you say you say you break your arm, you 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.160 can go get an X ray and it shows you 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.800 exactly where it's broken. There's a very well documented procedure 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:34.640 of all right, we're gonna put a plate in or 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:36.240 we're gonna cash you. We're gonna put you in that 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.000 before weeks, gonna go back and give you another X 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:39.960 ray and we're gonna see exactly where you are. I 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.120 think the thing with concussions that makes it's different is 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.400 it's hard to do that. So everyone's different. Everyone reacts 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.320 differently to each one. So it's one of those situations 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.400 where you just gotta gotta trust your doctors, trust your trainers. 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:55.280 That's when Luke was on our show at the Minnesota 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:59.360 super Bowl. And you have to allow a concussion to heal. 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.920 You want to help your team. There's only sixteen regular 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:05.840 season games. You can't change your style, and he's a 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.920 form tackler. You know, you look at some of the 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:13.160 great tacklers. You know, Ray Lewis was a great form tackler. 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:18.840 Brian Herlocker great form tackler. These guys who launched themselves, 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.960 those are the guys I worry about. But Keikley at 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.480 age twenty eight, and I don't mean to say, well, 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:27.640 he had money, that's why he retired. It makes it 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.840 easier because what happens is the guys who don't have 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:34.960 money who have to continue to play. When you're the 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:38.000 fifty third guy on the roster, you're the backup linebacker, 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:42.560 you got to continue to play. Luke Keikley has made 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.559 sixty five million dollars. Maybe he's going to the Hall 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:47.920 of Fame. He's on a team that wasn't going to 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.679 be playing for a Super Bowl anytime soon. New coach 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.800 in there, and maybe it's a rebuild. Maybe Cam Newton's 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:57.080 not back there. If you look at Andrew Luck, he 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.920 had money able to walk away. You know, Chris bore 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.439 And did not have money when he retired from the 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:06.200 San Francisco forty nine ers. Rob Gronkowski has money to 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:10.640 be able to retire and maybe with new salaries that 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:15.040 these players can retire. You know, Calvin Johnson retired earlier. 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.960 Barry Sanders walked away, but you know, Barry wasn't in 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.040 anywhere near the condition of Luke Keikley. He just didn't 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:25.840 want to keep losing, so he walked away. Maybe more players. 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.760 I'm not shocked at this at all. Andrew Luck surprised me. 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.640 But he was on a good team, and he was healthy, 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:35.360 and he was coming off a good year and they 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.160 had a good offensive line. Like this was where you said, oh, 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.199 Andrew Luck is going to be Now he's going to 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.000 show he's a Hall of Famer. That's what surprised me. 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.160 When a quarterback walks away at that age, now you 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.720 have my attention. If it's another player at another position, 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.920 not as much. I'm not surprised at Luke Keikley is 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.200 walking away at twenty eight. I applaud him for walking 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.280 away at twenty eight because you really have to look 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:03.160 at this and be responsible. And others may say, oh, 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.440 you got to play, Oh you play hurt or that's 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.920 the way other players played. You get dinged up, you 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:11.600 get back in there. You know, Carson Wentz is being 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:15.680 labeled a hero because he's self reported I got a 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.240 concussion here. He shouldn't be viewed as a hero, as 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:21.840 just somebody who's being smart. And other players need to 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.840 do this because I've said this before on this show. 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:28.800 And as caunless as it may sound, you don't care 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.520 about these players when they're done. You might care if 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:33.720 they come back and you have a ring of honor, 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.880 but how do you help my team win? And when 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:40.560 you're not in there and you can't help us, then 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.480 you move on, and you'll move on, and you've moved 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:46.080 on from a lot of these players. When's the last 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.679 time you thought about Earl Campbell? When's the last time 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:53.880 you thought about Tony Dorsett who's dealing with concussion, dementia, 0:10:54.200 --> 0:11:00.280 head injuries? You know, you move on. Everybody has this up, 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.679 like this awareness of self awakening when it's epiphany when 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:05.760 they saw Earl Campbell and they went, oh my god, ekay. 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:10.240 Earl has been like this for over a decade. And 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.040 Earl's only a few years older. I think he's five 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.560 or six years older than Barry Sanders. Earl Campbell played 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.360 That's how he played football. He couldn't play it any differently. 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.440 You know he's debilitated, but I remember when we were 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:25.760 at the Super Bowl in Houston and I saw him 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:30.080 in a wheelchair and I that's the first time I went, Gosh, 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.200 we forget about these guys and do we really care 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:37.480 about these guys when they're gone? And we should, but 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.760 we don't. We chew him up, We spit him out. 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.560 That's what this sport does. And Earl Campbell has paid 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:46.959 a price here. Luke Keithley maybe has paid a price. 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:48.960 Who knows what this is going to be like. His 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.360 life will be like in fifteen twenty years from now. 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.760 But he walks away at twenty eight, and he's able 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.360 to walk away at twenty eight. This program is brought 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:59.520 to you by the great folks at legal Zoom in 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.360 the new year, Year, make twenty twenty a great year, 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.439 a year you'll remember you use legal zoom to help 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.600 you navigate the legal world legal zoom dot Com from 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.520 a code Patrick at Checkout Special Savings. That's legal zoom 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:16.360 dot Com promacode Patrick, legal Zoom where life meets Legal. Mcleven, 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.000 you got a poll question for me today? Is it 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:19.959 even a poll? Is Luke Keeckley a Hall of Famer 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:24.000 everyone's saying he is. I'm gonna guest with the five 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.080 first Team All Pros and a Defensive Player of the 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:30.760 Year and a Super Bowl appearance. And I also wanted 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:32.760 to know, and I asked mcloven if he could find 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:36.360 out the shortest Hall of Fame careers and maybe this 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.960 is going to be modified, maybe the new era of 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:44.280 NFL players and concussions and how long you play that 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.640 we don't you know? Terrell Davis I fought for I argued, 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.960 I brought it up constantly. I thought that he was 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.720 a Hall of Fame player. Who was He played seven 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:58.440 years and he probably had four great years. He rushed 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:04.959 for two thousand yards an MVP. Kenny Easley seven seasons. 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:09.000 He was a great defensive back out of UCLA for 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.640 the Seahawks. He's in the Hall of Fame. Earl Campbell 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:17.000 played eight. Let's see Dwight Stevenson played eight, one of 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.360 the great centers to ever play the game, but injuries, 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:23.000 Floyd Little nine years, Leroy Selman nine years, Lynn Swan 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:27.600 nine years, Kellen Winslow nine years. Luke Keikley fits in 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:31.000 there with those guys. He does, and the first team 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.520 All Pros would probably put him over the tump. Yeah, Paul. 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:35.520 If you do the math, and let's say Luke Keickley 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.560 goes in first ballot, which I think this modern era 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.959 people are gonna be very epathetic or sympathetic to his situation. 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:44.000 You know, he could have had more all pro seasons, 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.520 but he would go in at age thirty four. I 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:48.000 think the only other thirty four year old to go 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:49.920 in the Hall of Fame is Gail Sayers. He would 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:51.760 actually be announced as a Hall of Famer based on 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:53.920 his birthday at the age of thirty three, because the 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:55.840 Hall of Fame class is announced this time of year, 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.360 so he'd be announced if he goes in first ballot 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.920 at the age of thirty three. Ever, lou Keikley came in, 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.240 I think he was twenty or twenty one. He was 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.960 the youngest player when he came in. He didn't miss 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.040 a game in twenty twelve, didn't miss a game in 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:13.319 twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen, miss three and twenty fifteen 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.679 with a concussion, six games in twenty sixteen with a concussion, 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:20.200 one game in twenty seventeen with the concussion twenty eighteen, 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.960 didn't miss a game twenty nineteen did not miss a game. 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:27.400 He's not the same player, and that could be for 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.080 a variety of reasons, but he was not the force 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.360 that we had come I was surprised he came back 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:38.760 this past year, but at age twenty eight deciding to retire. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.800 And that's it's a good resume. So you have your health, 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.240 or at least we hope you'll have your health. You 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.400 have some money in the bank and a chance to 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.920 move on with the second part of your life. Yes, mcloven. 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.000 If you look at the defensive players of the year, 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:52.800 most of them seem a call of faintach Like it's 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:56.640 Aaron Donald, Clear, mac j. J. Watt, Troy palmyle Throelt Focks. 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.360 These are all kind of first ballot guys. So I 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.640 think it's like an end. Yeah, and he had a 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:05.160 found MVP. Pretty much like I'm more lenient when it 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.080 comes to the Hall of Fame. The more the better. 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.480 I just want to celebrate the sport. And I think 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:14.320 sometimes when baseball would have like one guy going like 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.080 Bruce Shooter would go in. Now, there are times when 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:18.800 I go, well, Harold Baines is not a Hall of 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:23.360 Famer in my opinion, but you're still celebrating longevity there, 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.960 and I would air to the side if you want 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.720 to call heir to the side of more than less. 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.880 By the way, I'm happy that a friend, Jimbo Covert 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:35.240 got into the Hall of Fame. Just got to announce 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:39.680 their Chicago Bears blocked for Walter Payton and great guy 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.680 did he blocked for Dan Marino as well. I think 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.960 it pitted. But Jimbo Covert going into the Hall of Fame. 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:51.720 They're slowly leaking out Harold Carmichael the Eagles. God, will 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:56.240 we ever see another six what sixty nine, six eight 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.880 sixty nine receiver? That was Harold Carmichael. You talk about 0:15:59.880 --> 0:16:03.040 it mismatch where you line up and you probably got 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:07.520 a six foot defensive back and then there was Harold Carmichael. 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.040 Although the defensive backs were less shorter back then. They 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:13.880 were probably you know, six two, but Harold was listed 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:18.320 at six eighth. And I loved Wilbert Montgomery and Harold 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:24.160 Carmichael had good uniforms. They had good uniforms. But Harold 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.320 Carmichael gets into the Hall of Fame. Yes, Ton, not 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:28.720 to take away from Jaworski's ability, but you're going to 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:30.920 but when you could just locked it up like that 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:32.840 and know that he he doesn't even have to jumb 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.760 because reachings its head countless time to just throwing it 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:37.280 into the corner of the end zone, and he's just 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:39.840 no way to stop that. Thank you, Tod any other 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:43.280 poll question, Sarah mclovin. Oh, and he's able too. Oh 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:45.880 you've been You've been libbying for that for a while. Yes, 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:49.920 that to me. Steve Sable who his dad started NFL 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:54.440 films that you talk about a contribution to the sport. 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.480 He and his dad took it to the next level. 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:03.560 Has anybody contributed to the sport more than Kim like 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:07.960 him and his dad, the history, the growth, those videos, 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:12.560 John Facunda, I mean, Buck O'Neill to me should be 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.600 in the Hall of Fame from the Negro leagues and 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:19.840 his contribution while he was still alive with reminding us 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.560 of just how great Josh Gibson and Satchel Paige and 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.359 some of these other players were. He gave the speeches 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:30.000 because these players had died, they weren't even around for 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:34.399 the honor and Buck O'Neill, you know, I always argued 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:39.560 that he contribution to the game. If you have that category, 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:44.160 there are very few who contributed more than the Sables 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.920 did to their sport. And I'm glad that both Steve 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.800 and his father are now in the Hall of Fame. Yes, mccleman, 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:53.359 if you want to, I have a baseball poll and 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.240 a NFL draft pole. We'll take a break and then 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:59.359 we'll come back with that. Antonio Gates is going to 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:03.160 join us. Todd is telling me Antonio Gates is going 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:06.439 into the Hall of Fame, former charger, and he just 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:10.000 announced his retirement. So Antonio Gates a little bit later 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:13.120 on in the program, coming up on seventeen after the hour, 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:15.800 we'll settle on a poll question. Back after this in 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:18.200 the day Patrick's show, Everybody's Got It to Do? 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