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Speaker 1: We will dive into a couple of things today. The
Speaker 1: Red Sox have fired their manager, The Metzer mom on
Speaker 1: their manager, and Luke Keakley decides to retire at the
Speaker 1: age of twenty eight. LSU suffers a loss. They lose
Speaker 1: their assistant coach, Joe Brady. He goes to the Panthers,
Speaker 1: where at the rifled age of thirty, I believe the
Speaker 1: youngest offensive coordinator in the NFL. Also, there's a documentary
Speaker 1: out on with Netflix on Aaron Hernandez. Dan Wetzel, the
Speaker 1: great columnist from Yahoo Sports, one of the executive producers.
Speaker 1: He will join us a little bit later on to
Speaker 1: talk about that. It is really well done three part
Speaker 1: documentary on Aaron Hernandez. If you like get in touch
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Speaker 1: now that Mario figured out that there are emails to
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Speaker 1: The problem is we have such a backlog of emails.
Speaker 1: Mario's been bringing things like, Hey, I think this North
Speaker 1: Dakota State quarterback Carson Wentz is going to be something.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts, Dan, Yeah, there's a little bit
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Speaker 1: We'll eventually get around to it, just like the calendars are.
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Speaker 1: always help Mario if you want to. Oh, yeah, exactly,
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Speaker 1: Up Ma That's they're available as well. Luke Keickley retired
Speaker 1: yesterday and he had a great career. Seven Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: appearances in eight years. He was five time first team
Speaker 1: All Pro. Hall of Fame voters look at that. They're
Speaker 1: not as interested in the Pro Bowl appearances as they
Speaker 1: are you're a first team All Pro, which Luke Keikley
Speaker 1: was five times. He was the Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: But with Keikley, you're going to remember a lot of
Speaker 1: good things, but you'll also remember one of the more
Speaker 1: notable concussions in recent history. He was carted off the
Speaker 1: field in twenty sixteen. He was crying uncontrollably after suffering
Speaker 1: a head injury. And concussions haven't been front and center,
Speaker 1: certainly not lately in the NFL. The movie Concussion with
Speaker 1: Will Smith came and went. This year's been about great
Speaker 1: TV ratings and the sports seems to be thriving, but
Speaker 1: Keikley's decision to retire at twenty eight as a reminder
Speaker 1: of just how dangerous head injuries still are, and even
Speaker 1: with the league changing the rules to protect players. This
Speaker 1: sport will never be completely safe, and it's one of
Speaker 1: the dilemmas we have as a football fan. Your root
Speaker 1: like crazy. We love these collisions. We love guys who
Speaker 1: are physical, but the players we love, like Luke Keikley,
Speaker 1: you want them to have a long, healthy life. And
Speaker 1: he does have money. Now. I do think that this
Speaker 1: is I can't say it's a smart decision. It's his decision.
Speaker 1: Do I think it's the right decision? Yes, And I
Speaker 1: hope it's not too late. I don't know if he
Speaker 1: you know, maybe there's information here that he got that
Speaker 1: is going to scare you. And when he was with us,
Speaker 1: this was at the Super Bowl a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago in Minnesota, and I talked to him about these
Speaker 1: concussions because when you see a player get hurt and
Speaker 1: he's crying uncontrollably and can't stop because of his concussion,
Speaker 1: how scary that is. And he's played that way. You
Speaker 1: go back to Boston College and watch Luke KEI click.
Speaker 1: He was a battering ram and that's that position has
Speaker 1: a collision on every play, and usually a violent collision
Speaker 1: on every play. Your goal is to have a violent
Speaker 1: collision on every play. That means you're tackling somebody, knocking
Speaker 1: somebody down. Here's keekly talking about the difficulties of a concussion.
Speaker 1: I just think it's it's one of those situations where
Speaker 1: I think what makes it so difficult is every every
Speaker 1: concussion is different. You know. I always tell people, you know,
Speaker 1: when you say you say you break your arm, you
Speaker 1: can go get an X ray and it shows you
Speaker 1: exactly where it's broken. There's a very well documented procedure
Speaker 1: of all right, we're gonna put a plate in or
Speaker 1: we're gonna cash you. We're gonna put you in that
Speaker 1: before weeks, gonna go back and give you another X
Speaker 1: ray and we're gonna see exactly where you are. I
Speaker 1: think the thing with concussions that makes it's different is
Speaker 1: it's hard to do that. So everyone's different. Everyone reacts
Speaker 1: differently to each one. So it's one of those situations
Speaker 1: where you just gotta gotta trust your doctors, trust your trainers.
Speaker 1: That's when Luke was on our show at the Minnesota
Speaker 1: super Bowl. And you have to allow a concussion to heal.
Speaker 1: You want to help your team. There's only sixteen regular
Speaker 1: season games. You can't change your style, and he's a
Speaker 1: form tackler. You know, you look at some of the
Speaker 1: great tacklers. You know, Ray Lewis was a great form tackler.
Speaker 1: Brian Herlocker great form tackler. These guys who launched themselves,
Speaker 1: those are the guys I worry about. But Keikley at
Speaker 1: age twenty eight, and I don't mean to say, well,
Speaker 1: he had money, that's why he retired. It makes it
Speaker 1: easier because what happens is the guys who don't have
Speaker 1: money who have to continue to play. When you're the
Speaker 1: fifty third guy on the roster, you're the backup linebacker,
Speaker 1: you got to continue to play. Luke Keikley has made
Speaker 1: sixty five million dollars. Maybe he's going to the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. He's on a team that wasn't going to
Speaker 1: be playing for a Super Bowl anytime soon. New coach
Speaker 1: in there, and maybe it's a rebuild. Maybe Cam Newton's
Speaker 1: not back there. If you look at Andrew Luck, he
Speaker 1: had money able to walk away. You know, Chris bore
Speaker 1: And did not have money when he retired from the
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers. Rob Gronkowski has money to
Speaker 1: be able to retire and maybe with new salaries that
Speaker 1: these players can retire. You know, Calvin Johnson retired earlier.
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders walked away, but you know, Barry wasn't in
Speaker 1: anywhere near the condition of Luke Keikley. He just didn't
Speaker 1: want to keep losing, so he walked away. Maybe more players.
Speaker 1: I'm not shocked at this at all. Andrew Luck surprised me.
Speaker 1: But he was on a good team, and he was healthy,
Speaker 1: and he was coming off a good year and they
Speaker 1: had a good offensive line. Like this was where you said, oh,
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck is going to be Now he's going to
Speaker 1: show he's a Hall of Famer. That's what surprised me.
Speaker 1: When a quarterback walks away at that age, now you
Speaker 1: have my attention. If it's another player at another position,
Speaker 1: not as much. I'm not surprised at Luke Keikley is
Speaker 1: walking away at twenty eight. I applaud him for walking
Speaker 1: away at twenty eight because you really have to look
Speaker 1: at this and be responsible. And others may say, oh,
Speaker 1: you got to play, Oh you play hurt or that's
Speaker 1: the way other players played. You get dinged up, you
Speaker 1: get back in there. You know, Carson Wentz is being
Speaker 1: labeled a hero because he's self reported I got a
Speaker 1: concussion here. He shouldn't be viewed as a hero, as
Speaker 1: just somebody who's being smart. And other players need to
Speaker 1: do this because I've said this before on this show.
Speaker 1: And as caunless as it may sound, you don't care
Speaker 1: about these players when they're done. You might care if
Speaker 1: they come back and you have a ring of honor,
Speaker 1: but how do you help my team win? And when
Speaker 1: you're not in there and you can't help us, then
Speaker 1: you move on, and you'll move on, and you've moved
Speaker 1: on from a lot of these players. When's the last
Speaker 1: time you thought about Earl Campbell? When's the last time
Speaker 1: you thought about Tony Dorsett who's dealing with concussion, dementia,
Speaker 1: head injuries? You know, you move on. Everybody has this up,
Speaker 1: like this awareness of self awakening when it's epiphany when
Speaker 1: they saw Earl Campbell and they went, oh my god, ekay.
Speaker 1: Earl has been like this for over a decade. And
Speaker 1: Earl's only a few years older. I think he's five
Speaker 1: or six years older than Barry Sanders. Earl Campbell played
Speaker 1: That's how he played football. He couldn't play it any differently.
Speaker 1: You know he's debilitated, but I remember when we were
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl in Houston and I saw him
Speaker 1: in a wheelchair and I that's the first time I went, Gosh,
Speaker 1: we forget about these guys and do we really care
Speaker 1: about these guys when they're gone? And we should, but
Speaker 1: we don't. We chew him up, We spit him out.
Speaker 1: That's what this sport does. And Earl Campbell has paid
Speaker 1: a price here. Luke Keithley maybe has paid a price.
Speaker 1: Who knows what this is going to be like. His
Speaker 1: life will be like in fifteen twenty years from now.
Speaker 1: But he walks away at twenty eight, and he's able
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Speaker 1: you got a poll question for me today? Is it
Speaker 1: even a poll? Is Luke Keeckley a Hall of Famer
Speaker 1: everyone's saying he is. I'm gonna guest with the five
Speaker 1: first Team All Pros and a Defensive Player of the
Speaker 1: Year and a Super Bowl appearance. And I also wanted
Speaker 1: to know, and I asked mcloven if he could find
Speaker 1: out the shortest Hall of Fame careers and maybe this
Speaker 1: is going to be modified, maybe the new era of
Speaker 1: NFL players and concussions and how long you play that
Speaker 1: we don't you know? Terrell Davis I fought for I argued,
Speaker 1: I brought it up constantly. I thought that he was
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame player. Who was He played seven
Speaker 1: years and he probably had four great years. He rushed
Speaker 1: for two thousand yards an MVP. Kenny Easley seven seasons.
Speaker 1: He was a great defensive back out of UCLA for
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. He's in the Hall of Fame. Earl Campbell
Speaker 1: played eight. Let's see Dwight Stevenson played eight, one of
Speaker 1: the great centers to ever play the game, but injuries,
Speaker 1: Floyd Little nine years, Leroy Selman nine years, Lynn Swan
Speaker 1: nine years, Kellen Winslow nine years. Luke Keikley fits in
Speaker 1: there with those guys. He does, and the first team
Speaker 1: All Pros would probably put him over the tump. Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 1: If you do the math, and let's say Luke Keickley
Speaker 1: goes in first ballot, which I think this modern era
Speaker 1: people are gonna be very epathetic or sympathetic to his situation.
Speaker 1: You know, he could have had more all pro seasons,
Speaker 1: but he would go in at age thirty four. I
Speaker 1: think the only other thirty four year old to go
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame is Gail Sayers. He would
Speaker 1: actually be announced as a Hall of Famer based on
Speaker 1: his birthday at the age of thirty three, because the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame class is announced this time of year,
Speaker 1: so he'd be announced if he goes in first ballot
Speaker 1: at the age of thirty three. Ever, lou Keikley came in,
Speaker 1: I think he was twenty or twenty one. He was
Speaker 1: the youngest player when he came in. He didn't miss
Speaker 1: a game in twenty twelve, didn't miss a game in
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen or twenty fourteen, miss three and twenty fifteen
Speaker 1: with a concussion, six games in twenty sixteen with a concussion,
Speaker 1: one game in twenty seventeen with the concussion twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: didn't miss a game twenty nineteen did not miss a game.
Speaker 1: He's not the same player, and that could be for
Speaker 1: a variety of reasons, but he was not the force
Speaker 1: that we had come I was surprised he came back
Speaker 1: this past year, but at age twenty eight deciding to retire.
Speaker 1: And that's it's a good resume. So you have your health,
Speaker 1: or at least we hope you'll have your health. You
Speaker 1: have some money in the bank and a chance to
Speaker 1: move on with the second part of your life. Yes, mcloven.
Speaker 1: If you look at the defensive players of the year,
Speaker 1: most of them seem a call of faintach Like it's
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, Clear, mac j. J. Watt, Troy palmyle Throelt Focks.
Speaker 1: These are all kind of first ballot guys. So I
Speaker 1: think it's like an end. Yeah, and he had a
Speaker 1: found MVP. Pretty much like I'm more lenient when it
Speaker 1: comes to the Hall of Fame. The more the better.
Speaker 1: I just want to celebrate the sport. And I think
Speaker 1: sometimes when baseball would have like one guy going like
Speaker 1: Bruce Shooter would go in. Now, there are times when
Speaker 1: I go, well, Harold Baines is not a Hall of
Speaker 1: Famer in my opinion, but you're still celebrating longevity there,
Speaker 1: and I would air to the side if you want
Speaker 1: to call heir to the side of more than less.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm happy that a friend, Jimbo Covert
Speaker 1: got into the Hall of Fame. Just got to announce
Speaker 1: their Chicago Bears blocked for Walter Payton and great guy
Speaker 1: did he blocked for Dan Marino as well. I think
Speaker 1: it pitted. But Jimbo Covert going into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: They're slowly leaking out Harold Carmichael the Eagles. God, will
Speaker 1: we ever see another six what sixty nine, six eight
Speaker 1: sixty nine receiver? That was Harold Carmichael. You talk about
Speaker 1: it mismatch where you line up and you probably got
Speaker 1: a six foot defensive back and then there was Harold Carmichael.
Speaker 1: Although the defensive backs were less shorter back then. They
Speaker 1: were probably you know, six two, but Harold was listed
Speaker 1: at six eighth. And I loved Wilbert Montgomery and Harold
Speaker 1: Carmichael had good uniforms. They had good uniforms. But Harold
Speaker 1: Carmichael gets into the Hall of Fame. Yes, Ton, not
Speaker 1: to take away from Jaworski's ability, but you're going to
Speaker 1: but when you could just locked it up like that
Speaker 1: and know that he he doesn't even have to jumb
Speaker 1: because reachings its head countless time to just throwing it
Speaker 1: into the corner of the end zone, and he's just
Speaker 1: no way to stop that. Thank you, Tod any other
Speaker 1: poll question, Sarah mclovin. Oh, and he's able too. Oh
Speaker 1: you've been You've been libbying for that for a while. Yes,
Speaker 1: that to me. Steve Sable who his dad started NFL
Speaker 1: films that you talk about a contribution to the sport.
Speaker 1: He and his dad took it to the next level.
Speaker 1: Has anybody contributed to the sport more than Kim like
Speaker 1: him and his dad, the history, the growth, those videos,
Speaker 1: John Facunda, I mean, Buck O'Neill to me should be
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame from the Negro leagues and
Speaker 1: his contribution while he was still alive with reminding us
Speaker 1: of just how great Josh Gibson and Satchel Paige and
Speaker 1: some of these other players were. He gave the speeches
Speaker 1: because these players had died, they weren't even around for
Speaker 1: the honor and Buck O'Neill, you know, I always argued
Speaker 1: that he contribution to the game. If you have that category,
Speaker 1: there are very few who contributed more than the Sables
Speaker 1: did to their sport. And I'm glad that both Steve
Speaker 1: and his father are now in the Hall of Fame. Yes, mccleman,
Speaker 1: if you want to, I have a baseball poll and
Speaker 1: a NFL draft pole. We'll take a break and then
Speaker 1: we'll come back with that. Antonio Gates is going to
Speaker 1: join us. Todd is telling me Antonio Gates is going
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame, former charger, and he just
Speaker 1: announced his retirement. So Antonio Gates a little bit later
Speaker 1: on in the program, coming up on seventeen after the hour,
Speaker 1: we'll settle on a poll question. Back after this in
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Speaker 1: dinner with my son. I had a golden road. I
Speaker 1: had a wolf pup section. I pa had a boy. Yes,
Speaker 1: indeed he spring some wings in with him. I did good,
Speaker 1: I did. You're back. It's weird how I know I
Speaker 1: am back. I have people who haven't talked to me
Speaker 1: in a while. Because I was on the steam vegetable
Speaker 1: purified water was a tough run for all of us.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I was. I was on that for almost
Speaker 1: five months. Then I got to introduce potatoes. Remember the
Speaker 1: day when I got to have potatoes instead of I
Speaker 1: could add that to the steam vegetables. I went out
Speaker 1: and bought two bags of potatoes, and my wife goes,
Speaker 1: you don't need two bags. You drop dropped like Andy
Speaker 1: Dufrain getting out of straw. I was doing that, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden I got to add a
Speaker 1: piece of meat or not fish. I got to have
Speaker 1: chicken or you know, steak or something one meal a day.
Speaker 1: And then I all of a sudden, I woke up
Speaker 1: one day and I went, I'm not feeling any better.
Speaker 1: I know this is smart to do. I got to
Speaker 1: go back to I had had pizza in six months,
Speaker 1: I had had wings in six months, and I said,
Speaker 1: I think it's time that I dive back in. I
Speaker 1: hadn't had sushi, i'd had seafood in six months, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, I go because I went
Speaker 1: to the doctor yesterday who had treated me for my inflammation,
Speaker 1: and she said, are you still on that goofy diet.
Speaker 1: I said, no, no, I'm done with that. She goes, good,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're back. Yeah, pout. Did you feel better
Speaker 1: after having beer and wings and you feel like, yes,
Speaker 1: they did. They're good for you. They're healthy. Beer and
Speaker 1: wings is healthy, put you in a good mood. Even pizza. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, I kind of felt like I was back. Yes, mcleugh.
Speaker 1: But the hot thing is now plant based. Eyets the
Speaker 1: Titans plant based. You got salary of wings, that's plants.
Speaker 1: I like the plant based burgers. I'm fine with that.
Speaker 1: You can still eat smart. It's just I didn't want
Speaker 1: to seem like I was being punished, and it felt
Speaker 1: like I was being punished. Yes, knew all these years
Speaker 1: later he'd be coming around to the old vegetarian. Yeah, anymore,
Speaker 1: while you did, it didn't last get yourself a nice
Speaker 1: greasy cheeseburger. Yeah. Yeah, but it was doctor's orders or
Speaker 1: I never would have done it. But I'm glad I
Speaker 1: did it. I'm glad that I proved that I could
Speaker 1: do it. And I don't think I'll be going back
Speaker 1: to it anytime soon. But I will say, the plant
Speaker 1: based stuff, you know, you're getting the people in the
Speaker 1: meat industry, You're getting their attention because now they're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out, all right, how do we capitalize on
Speaker 1: this market because it feels like it's here to stay. Yes,
Speaker 1: how do they make it look like the color and
Speaker 1: texture of a burger is my question? The same way
Speaker 1: they make it look like a color and a texture
Speaker 1: of a burger. And now with the whatever meat they're
Speaker 1: using it most of these fast food places, I'm just
Speaker 1: facintive about it because when you think of burgers and steaks, like,
Speaker 1: how do they get that black, you know, grilled brown color?
Speaker 1: And are we going to hear something in the next
Speaker 1: in the coming months, a coming years that it's actually
Speaker 1: helping to just eat the regular meat. Then the's a
Speaker 1: plant based one, Well, if you cook it then it
Speaker 1: turns brown. That's why it Yeah, because what's what's healthy now?
Speaker 1: All that is unhealthy, and what's unhealthy now is like
Speaker 1: great for you, eat a lot of drink a lot
Speaker 1: of coffee. You don't drink any coffee, have a lot
Speaker 1: of wine. Wine terrible. I'm still waiting for, you know,
Speaker 1: medical report to say that tequila is good for you.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm waiting for. Yeah see, there is still
Speaker 1: no version of these medical reports that I've seen though.
Speaker 1: That's this mountain dewing, chicken parmesan stubs are are the
Speaker 1: healthy way to go. Friste's hold up that mountain dew
Speaker 1: that it's the elixir. When you look at mountain dew,
Speaker 1: I like it feels like it might peel paint. It's
Speaker 1: like a lantern. It just does have a glow through it.
Speaker 1: In the dim light. You could almost see it, if
Speaker 1: you know, you were able to look at your X
Speaker 1: ray and then you pour it in, you could just
Speaker 1: see this orange liquid whatever it is. But I'm sure
Speaker 1: it's fine for people with stomach abolish. That's true. If
Speaker 1: that doing yellow number five settles you down, it's reverse
Speaker 1: psychology to your stomach. I'm actually gonna punish you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: take that. I'm trying to figure out my question about
Speaker 1: plant based burgers have to do with an attack on
Speaker 1: my dietary. Well know, we're getting there. We were about
Speaker 1: mountain dew, but I didn't quite a particular person who's
Speaker 1: like saying, how wonderful plant But your question is something
Speaker 1: that's more than likely healthy. We know mountain dew is
Speaker 1: not healthy. It's unlikely to be good. It's not good
Speaker 1: for you. It's not plant based. I would try it
Speaker 1: if I were you, Just try it. What's the report
Speaker 1: on Strip Mall Chinese food? I think still out of
Speaker 1: that depends on how much of a lobby the strip
Speaker 1: that you've had plant based burgers here and you don't
Speaker 1: even know it. I'll bet you have. I know there's
Speaker 1: definitely things. Do you want Burger? Do you want the
Speaker 1: big German to go get some plant based burgers and
Speaker 1: we'll cook those up. We're having a Burger showdown. We
Speaker 1: can have a burgy Burger showdown. We can do it.
Speaker 1: Do you guys want to do that? Yeah? Pull, there's
Speaker 1: a Burger King like two miles from here. We can
Speaker 1: go get a little whopper plant whopper and go total.
Speaker 1: So you can recognize that no one's ever done that. Before. Ye.
Speaker 1: I think it's funny those commercials that they don't even
Speaker 1: they don't actually recognize or realize what they're saying. It's
Speaker 1: not actually a statement about how wow, these plant based
Speaker 1: ones taste almost like real meat. It's more like the
Speaker 1: real meating. It's bubbly, using, it's had nothing like real meat.
Speaker 1: It's actually they're saying the exact opposite. It's like these
Speaker 1: ones are so terrible that it's just like the soy one.
Speaker 1: These aren't actors. And then you see them biting into
Speaker 1: a hamburger. It tastes just like a real burger. No,
Speaker 1: it doesn't available in all fifty states. Golden Road. That's
Speaker 1: where we started here, Golden Road brewing a fresh craft
Speaker 1: to beater since twenty eleven. I knew we'd get back
Speaker 1: to that eventually. Here. All right, poll question, mcleven, what
Speaker 1: do you have? Okay, you want to go baseball? Or
Speaker 1: do you want to go NFL draft? Let me do draft.
Speaker 1: And then once we get into baseball, I got a
Speaker 1: few things to say about baseball and when what's happened
Speaker 1: with the Red Sox firing Alex Corp. Okay, okay, now
Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow has signed on with the Panthers to
Speaker 1: become offensive coordinator. I am sorry, Joe Brady, the former
Speaker 1: LU passing coordinator with the Panthers. If you're Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: do you make a real push to not go number
Speaker 1: one to Cincinnati and say have their ancient call and
Speaker 1: say we want to go number seven? Am I missing
Speaker 1: something here? Yeah? He wants to go Jay. He doesn't
Speaker 1: want to go to Bengals. He does not. Well, no,
Speaker 1: I'm bet thinking Joe Burrows. But a lot of people
Speaker 1: think it's the worst. Well, no, no, I want to
Speaker 1: know what Joe Burrow wants to do, not what Jimmy
Speaker 1: Lipper wants him to do. Well, logically, why would you
Speaker 1: want to go to the Bengals? You have nothing? He's
Speaker 1: from Ohio, Yeah, but I don't think he's a Bengals fan.
Speaker 1: I think he's a Browns. Well yeah, where he's from,
Speaker 1: he would be a Browns fan. Yeah, Like I don't
Speaker 1: even think he lights the Bengals. Like then none of
Speaker 1: that Ohio stuff. Don't that out? Okay, but there's no deef.
Speaker 1: They have the worst defense they have, their offense gets
Speaker 1: hurt all the time. They their coach has unproven Why
Speaker 1: would you want to go there. Why didn't Cincinnati hire
Speaker 1: Joe Brady? Right, whatever was going to cost you get
Speaker 1: him in there as your offensive coordinator, you're Joe Burrow
Speaker 1: whisper Well, I say Cincinnati has this reputation of being cheap.
Speaker 1: That no, no, they they are cheap, and it's a
Speaker 1: reputation that they've earned. They've they've done it. That's one
Speaker 1: thing that they earned. They're cheap. Yes, point. The Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins have the fifth pick in the draft, the eighteenth
Speaker 1: pick in the first round in the twenty sixth would
Speaker 1: you trade all three of those to jump up for
Speaker 1: the first pick in the draft with sincnati. If you
Speaker 1: ran Miami, you're the ownership, you're the gym three first
Speaker 1: round picks, fifth and eighteenth and twenty six to get
Speaker 1: the first and you get whatever quarterback you want, and
Speaker 1: vice versa. If you're Cincinnati and we're offered that, you
Speaker 1: still get the fifth pick, which means you can get
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert maybe or tuah. Yeah, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to get a quarterback. I want to get my quarterback.
Speaker 1: This is what this is the mistake. The teams make
Speaker 1: you miss out on that guy, so you go, well,
Speaker 1: let's take Kim and then you make a mistake because
Speaker 1: that's not the right guy for you. But you feel
Speaker 1: like remember that one draft where it felt like everybody
Speaker 1: went stupid and they were like, we gotta get it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quarter back, and then we're gonna
Speaker 1: take a quarterback, Christian Ponder. We're gonna take that quarterback,
Speaker 1: and you're going is he the right quarterback for you? Yes?
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen thought a little bit like that when he
Speaker 1: got picked by Arizona. Like everybody, there were a bunch
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks right before and he was just there, so
Speaker 1: they took him. Johns. Rosen gonna emerge someplace? Is he
Speaker 1: gonna surface someplace? Yes? I mean I think he's had
Speaker 1: a contact with the Dolphins. I know, but yeah, but
Speaker 1: they're gonna take tuh think. So I don't know what
Speaker 1: happened there. I don't know, because it felt like people
Speaker 1: were turned off by his attitude or his cockiness or
Speaker 1: whatever it might be. I watched a lot of UCLA
Speaker 1: when he was there, and there were times when he
Speaker 1: looked really good and then there were times when he
Speaker 1: just looked average. Yes, Paul, But if you're since Danny
Speaker 1: Bengals and you're at the one spot. You could trade
Speaker 1: down four spots to get Tah, who five months ago
Speaker 1: was the number one picking the draft, and pick up
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of capital draft capital. Yeah, you gotta
Speaker 1: consider that because if it's a coin flip between those
Speaker 1: two guys, assuming two is healthy, assuming he's going to
Speaker 1: be healthy four months ago, that it was a reverse order. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think that I would trade all of my
Speaker 1: draft picks draft capital to do that. And I find
Speaker 1: the Bengals and I find a guy and it feels like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's the guy you want is to face
Speaker 1: your franchise. Then you build along with him. He might
Speaker 1: not want to go there because they're not very good,
Speaker 1: but you do get the opportunity to go number one overall.
Speaker 1: If you're the Dolphins, you surprised a lot of people
Speaker 1: and you got these draft picks, capitalize on those, build
Speaker 1: something special. And if you want to keep Ryan Fitzpattery
Speaker 1: for one more year, or you feel like two is
Speaker 1: the guy that we got to get her justin Herbert,
Speaker 1: whoever that is. But you've got to be sold on
Speaker 1: your quarter back, not a quarterback. Yeahmigloon. So who do
Speaker 1: you think ends up in a better situation. Burrow probably
Speaker 1: will go number one at Cincinnati. What if TWA falls
Speaker 1: to like a better team at the end of the
Speaker 1: first round. If you look at a ten year window
Speaker 1: like the Chargers, yeah or yeah the Chargers. Well, this
Speaker 1: is why Mahomes. The reason why Mahomes is so good,
Speaker 1: it is because he's with an experienced coach. He's got
Speaker 1: a great offensive coordinator, and he has as many weapons,
Speaker 1: if not more weapons, than any other quarterback in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and he got a year to observe. If he was
Speaker 1: playing for Jacksonville, we would not he would not have
Speaker 1: this fanfare. Would You would watch him and say, boy,
Speaker 1: he's fun. But it would be like when he was
Speaker 1: at Texas Tech. You would look at him and say
Speaker 1: he's got a strong arm, or he's interesting or creative.
Speaker 1: But he's with Kansas City and they appear to be
Speaker 1: going to the super Bowl. He would not be going anywhere.
Speaker 1: If he was with throw out another team that's not
Speaker 1: very good like Cincinnati, you would watch, but you would
Speaker 1: go he's interesting. That's the difference here. DeShawn Watson went
Speaker 1: to a better team. The lower you go, you may
Speaker 1: have to sit but you do get a chance to
Speaker 1: play for a better team. Now, would I want to
Speaker 1: go to the Bengals, No, I would not. The organization,
Speaker 1: the talent around them. It feels like you're looking at
Speaker 1: a two or three win season. I don't want to
Speaker 1: have what happened to David Carr, Derek's brother, who I
Speaker 1: thought was extremely talented, and he got roughed up when
Speaker 1: he was with the Texans. He got roughed up and
Speaker 1: he never recovered from it. But I thought he was
Speaker 1: an extremely talented quarterback. That confidence level, it can go quickly.
Speaker 1: By the way, guess who was coming back for his
Speaker 1: seventeen NFL season. Say hello to Larry Fitzgerald. Great, I
Speaker 1: love it. He had a good year this year, Yeah, Polly,
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald started all sixteen games, as he has the
Speaker 1: past five years, seventy five catches, four touchdowns. He's one
Speaker 1: in seventy two catches from breaking Carry Rice's record. He's
Speaker 1: averaging about seventy two catches a year the past two
Speaker 1: years with with a not great quarterback situation. That's getting better, man.
Speaker 1: That's so basically two and a half years. Is the
Speaker 1: pace a little less? Yes? Mclip, Sorry, one more headlines
Speaker 1: just gave over the NFL is killing us that there's
Speaker 1: a hall I could save it. There's a Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame induction right now. It's going to cause some problems.
Speaker 1: Well unless their teammate taking OJ out of the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. Now, it's not gonna cause me that many problems.
Speaker 1: A former commissioner. Oh, Paul Taglibu, Yeah, all right, whatever, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: he didn't bother you. Some some NFL writers are right,
Speaker 1: you know what. That's that's their little world. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you grow the league. Roger Goodell, is he gonna
Speaker 1: get into the Hall of Fame. Yes, whether you like
Speaker 1: him or not, or he's made good decision, but he's
Speaker 1: made them money and he'll probably get into the thing.
Speaker 1: But Paul Taglubo obviously around when he was commissioner, and okay,
Speaker 1: that's why I don't care put him in. Celebrate the game.
Speaker 1: By the way, two days just sent me the surprising
Speaker 1: health benefits of tequila. It's good for your bones. Did
Speaker 1: you know this. It's one of the best alcoholic drinks
Speaker 1: for fitness fans. It aged digestion, it's been linked to
Speaker 1: weight loss, it can age sleep. Well Yeah, wait, no,
Speaker 1: don't do this too. I'll debunk tequila because I gotta
Speaker 1: print this out for my wife. I gotta I gotta
Speaker 1: look at this, hun. Yes, yeah, that's kind of a
Speaker 1: way you could spin anything that we do. Yeah. Of course,
Speaker 1: if you passed out, you just got ten hours sleep.
Speaker 1: Of course I lost weight. I've been thrown up all morning.
Speaker 1: I got shimmered last night. Drinking tequila is not more
Speaker 1: healthy than not drinking tequila. Put it that one, like.
Speaker 1: You need all the benefits in your system, not avocad
Speaker 1: like vitamins. Honey, my bones are getting stronger because of tequila.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, those are called beer muscles. Tequila.
Speaker 1: We need to start our own tequila. Oh yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: dan quila. Yeah, to kill you for the sportsman, Well
Speaker 1: I came up with this idea. Well I thought I
Speaker 1: came up with this idea years ago. Uh, Tequila mockingbird,
Speaker 1: What what are the other ones? Wait, you don't love
Speaker 1: that to to kill a mockingbird? Toequila mockingbird? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding me. For the literary drinker, Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: for the beat poet in your house, and then the
Speaker 1: next chair to be the next bear. We catch her
Speaker 1: in the rye? Yeah, dude, No, that would be your whiskey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's your whiskey. Sound spirit right? Oh, I thought you
Speaker 1: said our next beer. No, no, catch her in the rye.
Speaker 1: I would buy that. Yeah, but that was used by
Speaker 1: Tim McCarver. That was the title I think of his
Speaker 1: book Catcher. Oh no, was that Bob Uker Catcher in
Speaker 1: the rhyme? I love a literary spirits, very spirits. Elsie
Speaker 1: mc club gossam ego has made a billion dollars and
Speaker 1: that name's not that great. Well, I know that has
Speaker 1: to taste good, but you have to look as good
Speaker 1: as George Clooney too. That's a big part of the deal.
Speaker 1: And Randy Gerber, Yeah, go out on your motorcycle promoting
Speaker 1: Crawford's husband Tekala Mockingbird. I love it. I think it's amazing.
Speaker 1: I had us. I'm absolutely shocked that you guys don't
Speaker 1: go that is and Todd and you have like a
Speaker 1: nice mockingbird logo like on the yes on the bottle. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: don't try to latch onto what my great taste like
Speaker 1: a mocking bird good bye? No, no, how could you
Speaker 1: do that? But it's it's called. Okay, I understand the
Speaker 1: plan on words, but then like, what are you what
Speaker 1: are you doing with it? Why what it be called that?
Speaker 1: Other than that? That sounds cool to call it que Okay,
Speaker 1: but wait now I want you to listen into yourself.
Speaker 1: Your entire career is based off of Yeah, twisting words,
Speaker 1: play on words, Tequila mocking Bird. I just fine. I
Speaker 1: got a tag line boom Radley, there you go. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. We don't expect people to read the book.
Speaker 1: We just want them to buy the tequila. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: went to see the play on Broadway. You don't want
Speaker 1: to drink a book, but you get hammered. Yeah, catching
Speaker 1: the rye tequila, buy the book, Tequila Mockingbird. We do
Speaker 1: bang the rum slowly? Okay, now we're going you're gonna
Speaker 1: have my rum? Yes, I'm fine with that. We just
Speaker 1: have to mention the movie reference is an old movie reference.
Speaker 1: We don't get stood. Wasn't Bob DeNiro and bang the
Speaker 1: drums slowly? Was DeNiro was the baseball player? Wasn't he
Speaker 1: in banging the drums? Yes? And then a line line
Speaker 1: the grapes of wrath. Now here we go collection get
Speaker 1: yes a billion dollars, billion dollars. Yes, somebody is already
Speaker 1: trademarking that. And as we speak, can we skip right
Speaker 1: to the part where we get bought out and we
Speaker 1: don't actually to produce anything. Pride and Gina juice? All right,
Speaker 1: juice and pred juice, prend Gina juice. Let's take a
Speaker 1: break here, take a break here, Tequila mocking bird. I'd
Speaker 1: wear that shirt. Oh yes, take a break, play today
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Speaker 1: John Moran's a lot of fun to watch. What was
Speaker 1: hardened last night? He had forty and that might be
Speaker 1: the headline, you know that he gets forty in a
Speaker 1: loss or something. But it as much as I'm fascinated
Speaker 1: by James Harden, I'm really disappointed in James Harden. This year.
Speaker 1: He was thirteen for thirty seven. He was five of
Speaker 1: nineteen for three. Like I wouldn't show my face and
Speaker 1: I do think that he's been a really good shooter
Speaker 1: at times, and I think that one of these nights
Speaker 1: he's just going to get on a roll and he'll
Speaker 1: make everything and he'll score seventy five and he can
Speaker 1: get forty every single night. But man, is it ugly?
Speaker 1: It really is. And he was just throwing up shots
Speaker 1: there at the end where you're going, I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: is that the best shot you can get? Yeah, Paul
Speaker 1: John Moran was ten or eleven, twenty six points. Yeah.
Speaker 1: John Moran looked good. He was fired out. He was
Speaker 1: like challenge. I thought his attitude last night was what
Speaker 1: was impressive, Like, let's go James. He wasn't afraid. I
Speaker 1: am not a rookie. He was not afraid. He was
Speaker 1: talking a little junk to him. I thought there was
Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch. A couple of email
Speaker 1: will the retirement of Luke Keikley. With the retirement of
Speaker 1: Luke Keikley, should the Panthers go all in and rebuild
Speaker 1: trade Cam Newton, let coach Matt Rule build the team
Speaker 1: how he likes Thanks love the show justin in Florida.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Luke Keekley, if that factored in
Speaker 1: of how good this team is going to be. You
Speaker 1: got a new coach, and he said, look, that's not
Speaker 1: the reason why I'm retiring. Hopefully he made a decision
Speaker 1: for the right reason and that's his health. Not Hey.
Speaker 1: You know, now if they're twelve and four this season
Speaker 1: they made the playoffs, does he come back? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Guys have a hard time walking away. Here's the tuggle
Speaker 1: war that you have with athletes. Oh you can't like
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Oh you can't go out like that. Okay,
Speaker 1: Then you come back and then you win, and then
Speaker 1: you say, why don't want to walk away from this?
Speaker 1: John Elway had to retire. We talk about the perfect retirement.
Speaker 1: What it's because healthwise, he had to, even if he
Speaker 1: wanted to. They just won the Super Bowl, and that's
Speaker 1: where you go, Boy, I hadn't love to come back.
Speaker 1: He couldn't. It's almost you have to be forced to
Speaker 1: make that decision, like I can't play anymore, Larry Bird
Speaker 1: couldn't play anymore, Steve Nash couldn't play anymore. You get
Speaker 1: to that moment where you go, I'm done, And maybe
Speaker 1: Luke Keickley got to that point where he just said,
Speaker 1: no matter what, our team is no matter the amount
Speaker 1: of money, I need to do this now. Yeah, po.
Speaker 1: But the one difference with like Luke Keikley and Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck Keikley, He's going to the Hall of Fame. There's
Speaker 1: not really much doubt. He's got the money. And he
Speaker 1: appeared in the super Bowl, which is kind of the
Speaker 1: pinnacle appearing at least appearing. Andrew Luck didn't appear in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. He's not going to the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: and he has the money. And Luck also had a
Speaker 1: very competitive team around him, which makes the craziest of
Speaker 1: all time because of the circumstance. Yeah, but this is
Speaker 1: where and I've said this before when it comes to
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, I hope the Texans take care of him
Speaker 1: and that they look at what happened with Andrew Luck,
Speaker 1: because if it can happen with Andrew Luck, it can
Speaker 1: happen with any quarterback in the NFL, where you get
Speaker 1: so banged up and they're always rehabbing, and then you
Speaker 1: just say, is this worth it? And they've made their
Speaker 1: money and they can walk away. And that's why when
Speaker 1: people say, oh, Andrew Luck, he's gonna come back and play,
Speaker 1: and I go he's not. If he was going to play,
Speaker 1: he would be back or he would let you know.
Speaker 1: But he walked away, and he walked away from a
Speaker 1: very good team. But I don't like Gronk. I don't
Speaker 1: see Gronk coming back. And gront is now a businessman.
Speaker 1: He's got shows on Amazon. I mean, he's moved on
Speaker 1: with this. He doesn't need this. Ron's going to the
Speaker 1: the thing too. You know. Patrick Willis Hall of Famer McLevin.
Speaker 1: I would think that a great player. He was the
Speaker 1: best at his position for a little while. A couple
Speaker 1: other Hall of famers. Alex Carris got in, played with
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions, were right, Yeah, and he got suspended
Speaker 1: for a year for gambling. So you see his career.
Speaker 1: It's nineteen fifty eight to nineteen sixty two, and then
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty four to nineteen seventy. So they took
Speaker 1: out in nineteen sixty three because he didn't play that year.
Speaker 1: He was Donnie Shell got in from the Steelers. Awesome,
Speaker 1: that's great. Max Speedy Tony Vaselli did not get in.
Speaker 1: Max Speedy, what a great name. Yeah, he played with
Speaker 1: the Browns. He was a white Way. You were an
Speaker 1: end back then he was not a wide receiver. He
Speaker 1: was an end Jim Bocover gets in, Cliff Harris and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys got in. All right, that's good, that's fun.
Speaker 1: Two tackles, not Sali Winston, Helen Jimbocover, Yeah, got all right?
Speaker 1: Will disappointing. Let me see Jeff in Detroit. Hey, Jeff,
Speaker 1: how are you today? Hey? What's going on down? How
Speaker 1: is everything? That's one of my friends? Anybody h listen?
Speaker 1: Could you do me a favorite? When I TOMMYO. Gates
Speaker 1: came ball, he has always been a big stad. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've always been a big fan of his. Detroit guy,
Speaker 1: he's been a big fan of yours. Jeff, I wish
Speaker 1: I wish Hey tell him what up? Though? The oe?
Speaker 1: What up? Though? It's like a Detroit Uh. When you
Speaker 1: say that to somebody, they know that you're from Detroit,
Speaker 1: so to tick let me, Hey, Jeff, what up? No? Listen,
Speaker 1: My question to you is how's your inside sources had
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