1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: You're listening to an airwave media podcast. 2 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: Hello delicious friends, and welcome to Who I Want Now, 3 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: the history podcast That's not your History class with me, 4 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: your host Katie Charlewood, History Harlot and reader all books. 5 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: If you are new here, this is not my usual voice. 6 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: This is much sexier than my usual voice. I am 7 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: sick because of course I am, because I can't stay 8 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: healthy for more than five minutes. But fuck it, it's fine. 9 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: Here we are. 10 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: Oh. 11 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: You may have noticed that I speak with language more 12 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: colorful than a kaleidoscope filled with the word fuck. But 13 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: here we are welcome. If you don't like it, though, 14 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: you might want to stage left. Good now that we've 15 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: separated the week from the chaff, how are you you're 16 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: doing well? Yeah, this has been it's been a fun week. 17 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: It's been a busy week trying to get sort of 18 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: more of the tour dates locked in the Glassgow show. 19 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: Like over half the tickets are gone now, so if 20 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: you want to come see me in Glasgow, you're good. 21 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: You're gonna want to get those tickets in sooner rather 22 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 2: than later. It's it's gonna be a good one. Actually, 23 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: I'm very excited for the Glassgow Show. I have the 24 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: perfect person to talk about and my outfit is amazin. 25 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: Although if you want to contribute to my performance outfits, 26 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: you can always donate to my Smutty Little Dress Fund, 27 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: which is my PayPal which I've renamed the Smutty Little 28 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: Dress Fund for my own amusement. Oh man, But yeah, 29 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: it's gonna be It's gonna be a good night. 30 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: I'm very excited for the Glasgow Show. 31 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: All the events are going to be going up on 32 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 2: the website, so they're going to be on there, and yeah, 33 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: it's going to be good. I'm excited. Are you excited? 34 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: I'm excited. We should all be excited. 35 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: But oh, it has been. It has been a busy 36 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: week because I'm trying to like contact venues and arrange 37 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: gigs and stuff. But I don't understand an event space 38 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: that takes or somewhere that hosts any kind of event 39 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: that it takes two weeks to respond to an email, 40 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 2: Like that's that's madness to me, because as far as 41 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: I'm concerned, like you should be like two three days tops, 42 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 2: is you know, unless you know you're ill or you're 43 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: on leave, in which case you know there should be 44 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: someone else to do that for you. But yeah, I 45 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: had a company contact me after two weeks for you know, Glasgow, 46 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, thank you so much. That's 47 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: very kind of considerate of you. But unfortunately am I 48 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: of all all my Glasgow dates arranged for twenty twenty four. 49 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: Sorry because like I I did it, you know, someone 50 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: else got there first, which is a shame obviously, but 51 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 2: like maybe you should have answered your emails like quicker 52 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: and you know, but anyway, I know what you're thinking, 53 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: you're thinking, what your jibber jabber in fact me, in 54 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: fact you Well, but first we've got to get our 55 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: source on. Our sources are Marlina Dietrich Life and Legend 56 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: by Stephen Buck, Marlena Dietrich by Maria Riva, Blue Angel, 57 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: The Life of Marlena Dietrich by Donald Spoto, Steenberg and Dietrich. 58 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: The Phenomenology of Spectacle by James Phillips. A Woman at 59 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: War Marlena Dietrich Remembered by David J. 60 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: Riva. 61 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:17,119 Speaker 2: The Sewing Circle Hollywood's Greatest Secret Female Stars Who Loved 62 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: Other Women by Axel Madsden. The Girls When Sappho Goes 63 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: to Hollywood by Diana McLellan, and of course we have 64 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: our old favorites hestory dot com and biography dot com. 65 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: I will say it uncomfortably good. Then let's begin. So 66 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: Marlena Dietrich was born, as most of us are, she 67 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 2: was born Yeah, So she was born Marie Magdalene Dietrich 68 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: on the twenty seventh of December nineteen oh one in 69 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: the Lewis Strauss in Berlin. I will do accents. They 70 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: will not be pleasant. They're just gonna have to accept it. 71 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: So she was born to Wilhelmina Elizabeth Josephine and I 72 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: name I'm gonna fuck up. But luckily they don't have 73 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: to say it more than once. Lewis Rich Otto Ditrich. 74 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: It's a very sharp shot, sharp sharp sharp short. Oh 75 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: my god, I'm getting worse. It's a sharp short name. 76 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 2: It's like Louis Rich otto di see. It's it's very 77 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: difficult for my wee tongue today, is it? You know? 78 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: It likes the long names, the elaborate names. But this 79 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: is this is where we're at. So Louis he was 80 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: a police lieutenant, and Wilhelmina or Wilhelmina, probably Wilhelmina was 81 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: Rich she was my rich family, a well to do family. 82 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: They made their money on jewelry and claw and Marlena 83 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: here she is one of two children. She has an 84 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: older sister who's like a year older than her, so 85 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: it's nineteen hundred. Her sister, Elizabeth is born and then 86 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: she's born the year after, so there's like a year 87 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 2: and a half between them. But there's the two girls 88 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 2: and that's it. 89 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 3: That's enough. 90 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: So starting things off, she comes from a pretty privileged background. 91 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: Her family's prosperous. Things are going well. She's doing all 92 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: right for herself. Unfortunately, like most of our stories, at 93 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: tragedy strikes because of course they fucking do right. Of 94 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: course it does, of course. So her beloved father, Lewis 95 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 2: louis one of those. He is thrown from a horse 96 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: and dies of his injuries. And she's only six years 97 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: old when this happens, leaving her mother a widow who 98 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: is just not doing great. Unsurprisingly, being the turn of 99 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: the twentieth century, her mother goes into full on mourning. 100 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: So she is in her mourning garb. She doesn't go places. 101 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: She dresses all in black, like it's very much the 102 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: done thing of especially the world to do. But she 103 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: is absolutely done, like she is full on grieving and 104 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: you know, her husband has died and she's allowed to 105 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: do that. You're expected to do that, especially, you know, 106 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: in this era. And what happens is things are going 107 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: okay until the outbreak of World War One, the Great War, 108 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: the first War, however you want to phrase it. The 109 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: war breaks out and the family business is not doing 110 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: great because you know, war, although war is good for business, 111 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: it's not necessarily good for that business. Not really a 112 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: lot of clocks needed it this time, and so desperation, 113 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: their mother gets a job as a housekeeper, but she 114 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: manages to work for one of Lewis's old friends, Edward 115 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: von Losch. So Edward was a colonel in the Grenadiers, 116 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: and she was, you know, relatively well to do as well, 117 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: so things were okay. She kind of landed on her 118 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: feet there. But when they get married in nineteen fourteen, 119 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: sort of, the war has broken out and then a 120 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: lot of While they get married, Wilhelmina, the mum is 121 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: wearing her mourning clothes for her first husband, Like that 122 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: is her wedding dress, is her mourning garb, Like I'm 123 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: not saying that was a bad sign. I'm just saying, 124 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: does that flag look vaguely maroon to you? Just just 125 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: a question, just a thought, perhaps. So they get married 126 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: nineteen fourteen, and he's in the army, he's not around 127 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: too much, and then two years later, nineteen sixteen, he dies. 128 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: He dies in combat, as one does when one is 129 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 2: in the army during a fool on World War. 130 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: There is a wee bit. 131 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: Of a silver lining though, because they were married, they 132 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: had his pension, so they had Von Loosh's pension to 133 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: kind of tide them over and keep them going. I 134 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: should probably mention where the name Marlena came from. So basically, 135 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: the second half of her se name and the first 136 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: part of her first name smooshed together, so when she 137 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: was younger, people would call her Lena sort of for reasons, 138 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: I guess, And so she decided to mix those together 139 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: and make Marlena. So Marie Magdalene. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Marlena. 140 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 3: There you go. 141 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 2: She's gonna name good for her. She chose her name 142 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: and we have to respect that. So why she's grown 143 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: up as well is she's playing the violin and she 144 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: dreams of being a concert violinist. But then she starts 145 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 2: getting these pains in her hand, and she goes to 146 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: the doctors and turns out she has this bone injury 147 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: that didn't heal. So she's got this injured wrist and 148 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: she just can't play to the level of like a 149 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: concert pianist anymore. And here's the thing, Like she was 150 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: doing like theater and poetry and all this other stuff 151 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: as a back cup, Like it was a backup plan 152 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: for her. Like imagine imagine your massive, amazing, wonderful career 153 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: being a backup because you stumbled upon it, like you 154 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: fell into it, like by happenstance. 155 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: You know. 156 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: Well, when when I fall into things, I end up 157 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: covered in mud, you know, I end up drenched and 158 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 2: ruined and broken. She ends up with a career like, 159 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: oh no, I just fell into it. Oh no, Like 160 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 2: I end up in the bend next to Oscar the Grouch, 161 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: and she ends up at the Oscars, you know what 162 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: I mean. Like that's that's fun for everybody involved. But yeah, 163 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 2: she was doing this as a backup. But I'm getting 164 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: ahead of myself. Awey. Bit So when she's when she's 165 00:11:54,880 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: like seventeen eighteen, she gets a job as like a 166 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: violinist and an orchestra pet in a theater in Berlin. 167 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 2: So like back in the day, what would happen is 168 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: silent films would play and. 169 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: The orchestra would play along. 170 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: You know, they would do the little dangerous music when 171 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: the train would be getting towards the train tracks and 172 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: the damsel will be tied to it by the devious villain. 173 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: You know, they would play the appropriate like soundtrack for 174 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 2: the movie. And that's what she did. She lasted four 175 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: weeks before she was fired. But of course a girl 176 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 2: needs a job, and so she gets one as a 177 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: chorus girl, and so she's on tour with the Guido 178 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: Daisher's girl Cowboret. Fuck me, my throat was so sore. 179 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: I can't pronounce words properly, like I'm usually pretty good, 180 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: but you know European words. Places. Nope, not today. 181 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: Everything. 182 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: I'm buggering it all up. But it's fine. I'm sure 183 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: you'll I'm sure you'll forgive me. And so yeah, she's 184 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: on tour during these like vaudeville shows, and she tries 185 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 2: to get into a drama academy. She auditions when she's 186 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: twenty one, and she's, guys, what you trying to get 187 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: into this drama Academy. What is it the Max Reinheart's 188 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 2: Drama Academy, And they were like, no, she didn't get in, 189 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: not even a wee. But and so she ends up 190 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: doing chorus girl stuff small with here he parts, you know, 191 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: bits and pieces, and she's doing this around Berlin. But 192 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: what she also does in Berlin is she starts going 193 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: to the underground Berlin gay bars and drag balls. So 194 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: she was very much part of this scene. And throughout 195 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: her early twenties she is going out partying. She's shagging men, 196 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: and she's shagging women. She's probably shagging people who are 197 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: a gender nonconformist. She's doing everything everyone some might say, 198 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: and she's having the best time. And we love this 199 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: journey for her. When she's twenty two, she gets a 200 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: genuine role in a film called The Little Napoleon. So 201 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: that's her debut to the moving pictures. That is not 202 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: her accent. 203 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: That was bad. 204 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: That was really bad. So she's on the set of 205 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: Tragedy of Love, very optimistic one there where she meets 206 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: Rudolph cyber Now as someone who's just constantly this big 207 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: party girl and she's out shagging this person, that person 208 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: who ever right, and she suddenly flips on this. She 209 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: tells everyone that she's fallen madly in love. But all 210 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: the evidence suggests that this in fact was a shotgun wedding. 211 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: So effectively, Marlena Dietrich was pregnant and being you know, 212 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: the good man that he was. I guess I suppose 213 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: maybe Rudolph Cyber decides he's going to make an honest 214 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: woman out of her, and they get married and it's 215 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: in like a civil service, and they get married in May, 216 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: and then Marlena's only child, their daughter, is born into Zember. 217 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: Maria Elizabeth Cyber just just you know, made to Dezember. 218 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: That's uh, I mean, that's that's eight months. 219 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just saying that. 220 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: It's not a long time. I'm just just putting out there. 221 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: It's a good day for a shotgun wedding. Yeah, I know, 222 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: I know, I squeezed it. End there. 223 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: I did it. 224 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: I don't care I did it. So they have this 225 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: cookie cutter like family, husband, wife, baby, and they're married. Yeah, 226 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: and they stay married like they don't get divorced because 227 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe they couldn't be ursed. Maybe they 228 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 2: stayed friends because you know, they both got around and 229 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: they seem to be pretty chill, like he's living with 230 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: like another woman for like twenty years, and Marlina is 231 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: just kind of doing whoever she wants. And they love 232 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: separate lives, but they just can't be urked getting divorced. 233 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 2: I couldn't read anything about them not getting on. So 234 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 2: maybe they were fine, you know, but yes, nuclear family, 235 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 2: you might think, ah, you know, she might settle down. 236 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. So she continues working on stage and on 237 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: screen all through sort of the nineteen twenties. But then 238 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 2: in nineteen twenty nine she meets Joseph von Sternberg. And 239 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: what's interesting about these two is, as far as I remember, 240 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: they currently hold like the most collaborations between an actor 241 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 2: and a director. 242 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 3: So these two worked. 243 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: Have worked together more than any other being in more 244 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: productions than any other actor slash director. So go, then 245 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: that's actually fucking cool. So she gets her break as 246 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: Lola on his film The Blue Angel, and this is 247 00:17:55,280 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 2: her big break, and he's out there telling everybody that 248 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: he discovered her, like and for years afterwards, Malina would 249 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 2: say that, you know, this was her first film and 250 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 2: you know, and pretend like the old ones in Germany 251 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 2: didn't exist, didn't happen, but no, no, no, this was just. 252 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 3: Her being discovered. 253 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 2: So she ends up being signed to Paramount Pictures just 254 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 2: because this film does so fucking well, and she gets 255 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: signed because they're trying to find like another Greta Garbo 256 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 2: who's Swedish and so they wanted somebody else, and she's German, 257 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: so you know, she's she's foreign. She's out there and 258 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: she's doing well, and that's what they want. They want 259 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 2: someone who has the same kind of appeal, that same 260 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 2: I don't want to say exoticness, but like imagine like, oh. 261 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 3: They're so exotic, they're German like. 262 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: But Metro Golden Mayor they had Garble, and Paramit wanted 263 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: their own Garble, but they couldn't have another Swede because 264 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: that would be a turn up for the books. I 265 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: regret nothing, and so and so they wanted their own 266 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: and so enter Marlena. So she leaves Berlin for Hollywood. 267 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 2: She you know, kisses her husband and her daughter goodbye, 268 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 2: and she's like, I'll be back soon, but she's not. 269 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 2: And it doesn't really matter because at that point his mistress, 270 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: it's like a dancer. I think she's you know, and there, 271 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: you know, involved. 272 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 3: In that situation. 273 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: When Marlena is headed over to Hollywood and she's there 274 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: and she arrives and Joseph and Stenberg, he just starts 275 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: showering her with gifts, one of which is a green 276 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: Rolls Rooce. Now I don't care much for green cars 277 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: nor for rolls races, but I would not say no 278 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 2: to one, even though I do not drive. 279 00:19:58,880 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 3: That is not the point. 280 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: If I had one of those, if I could afford 281 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: a Rose Royce, I feel like I could afford a driver, 282 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: you know, except I would call mi chauffeur because i'mbougie 283 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: like that. So Marlena is just cruising towards the US, 284 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: preparing for her next film role, maybe flirting with some 285 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 2: people on the boat, and you know, because she has 286 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 2: to travel by boat because that's how one got around 287 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: in the past. And she gets to the States and 288 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: the moment she steps off the boat, she is served 289 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: with peoples because Joseph von Sternberg's wife, she was suing 290 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 2: Malena Dietrich for six hundred thousand dollars for a label 291 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: and for stealing her husband's affection. So basically this was 292 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: accusing her of seeing in an interview with some magazine 293 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 2: in Germany that von Stenberg was in love with her 294 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: and that he was going to leave his wife for her, 295 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: and the studio is like, oh no, we can't have this. 296 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: This is not something we can do right now. And 297 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 2: Marlena is just like wanting to fight it because she's like, 298 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: fuck this for a game of soldiers. And what happens 299 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: is the studio basically pair off and they make it 300 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 2: settle and to not go public. Like they're just like no, no, no, no, no, 301 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: keep it s dumb, keep it stumb. We're not We're 302 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: not having this. We have a reputation to think about. 303 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: And like the Hayes Code was starting to come into 304 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: effect at this point too, So if you don't know 305 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 2: what the Hayes Code is, it was this level of 306 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: censorship that was adopted by sort of the motion picture scene, 307 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: by all of the major studios and they will just 308 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: kind of agreed to it, and it's so fucking ridiculous. 309 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: It had a list of actors and actresses who were 310 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 2: blacklisted effectively for being like openly you know, sex, a gay, 311 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: who were using a lot of curse words in real life, 312 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 2: who had behavior that was seen as a moral or 313 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: unethical or you know, not upstanding traditional values. Like it 314 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: just said this so stupid, it's so stupid so and 315 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 2: had a list of all these actors and actresses on it. 316 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: And then it also had sort of rules that you 317 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 2: had to follow, like you couldn't have relationships quote unquote 318 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 2: relations outside of marriage. You couldn't have like a couple 319 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: sharing a bed together. You couldn't have anything that suggested sex. 320 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: You couldn't have like a bunch of weird, weird shit, 321 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: Like my personal favorite was if a couple are in 322 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: a bedroom, they have to have one foot on the 323 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: floor all times, like like you couldn't have really sexy, 324 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: sexy stuff going on, which in a way was really 325 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 2: good because it meant that at the time women would 326 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: get decent roles because they couldn't just be like a 327 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: sex symbol, like you couldn't just be that, like you 328 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: couldn't be pigeonholed into this specific sort of But at 329 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: the time as well, you had a lot of women 330 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: working behind the scenes in Hollywood, Like a lot of 331 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 2: the major players initially were women, and then men realized 332 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: you could make money off it, and then they came. 333 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, it was. It was a very interesting time. 334 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, the hay His code comes in. So women 335 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: get pretty decent parts because they can't just be a 336 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: sex simple, you know, a bout of fluff, and so 337 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 2: they get decent roles. And then comes Marlena, who causes 338 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: scandal on the set of Morocco because she's playing a 339 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 2: cabaret star. As always, I say, as always, but she is. 340 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 2: She's playing a cabaret star and she's wearing a suit 341 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: and she kisses another woman. Now again, this is something 342 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: that shouldn't be allowed, according to the Hayes quote, but 343 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 2: she argues and argues and says that it's essential to 344 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 2: the plot and that it's necessary, and she kind of 345 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: bullies slash convinces the sensors to allow it and to 346 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 2: keep it in and they do. And this is where 347 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 2: she also starts having an affair with Gary Cooper, who's 348 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: also having an affair with another actress who wants, to 349 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 2: quote Teir, Marlina's eyeballs out, like, okay, cool, that's that's fun. 350 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 2: So naturally, this is a perfect time to go visit 351 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 2: your husband. And she heads back to Germany, back to Berlin, 352 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 2: and she gets there and turns out her daughter doesn't 353 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: fucking recognize her, and she's like, oh no, this ain't good, 354 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: and she decides, you know what, you're all are coming 355 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 2: back to America with me. Come on, let's go, and 356 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: off they pop. They head over to the States. Now, 357 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: as her daughter grows up, instead of you know, sending 358 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 2: her to school like you know, one should, she ends 359 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 2: up having her become like a mini assistant and just 360 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: drags her from set to set. So the more she's acting, 361 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 2: the more she's getting around. She's bringing her with her. Now. 362 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 2: Part of this is probably a bit selfish because she's 363 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 2: upset that her daughter didn't recognize her, but another part 364 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 2: was she gets this letter threatening to kidnap Maria and 365 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 2: they're gonna come get her and whatever, and so she 366 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: always keeps her close, Like she tells, you know, Steiberg, 367 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: the husband, and he's like, yeah, I'm gonna call the cops, 368 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: and so he's like, people have threatened to kidnap her. 369 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 2: Eventually no one does, but you know, yeah, now, Maria, 370 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 2: she basically ends up writing this book, which is kind 371 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: of the equivalent of Mummy Dearest, and it is not favorable. 372 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 2: It basically says that Marlina Dietrich was, you know, a 373 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: bit of a bitch, which we kind of expected to 374 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: the best of our abilities, but it also said that 375 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: she was a wee bit racist. She was also a 376 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: little bit sexist, which you know, weird for a queer 377 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 2: woman to hate other women, but she did. She really 378 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: hated Josephine Baker. And I don't know if that's just 379 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 2: because Josephine Baker was amazing and she was jealous, or 380 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: because Josephine Baker was not white. So we have to 381 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: take it to consideration that no, no, no, not the 382 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: best of people in the world is Marlina Dietrich. That 383 00:26:54,680 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 2: being said, when when Sternberg goes back to Germany, she's like, 384 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 2: maybe you shouldn't do that because things don't seem great 385 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 2: over there, because one Sternberg is Jewish and he's her 386 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: friend and collaborator possibly lovers to say, and she's like, let's. 387 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 3: Not do that. 388 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 2: So she is doing okay film wise in the nineteen thirties. 389 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 2: She's in well received movies, but she's gone away from 390 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: Paramount and she's making movies and sort of other countries, 391 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 2: and she's making them in London and they're expensive and 392 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: she's doing well, all right, but she ends up like 393 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: number one, two six in the box office rankings, and 394 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: so she gets labeled poison, box office poison, which apparently 395 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: is a big deal. And just like everybody else, it's 396 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: just kind of she fell out of fashion a wee bit. 397 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 2: It's not really that big of deal, you know. She 398 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 2: just wasn't a thing like friend to Stare. At one 399 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 2: point was labeled box office poison, fred fucking a stare, 400 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 2: you know, Catherine Hepburn, Greta Garble, like all of the 401 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: interesting ones. They're like ooh, and so she gets labeled 402 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 2: as that, and that's right. But speaking of Catherine Hepburn 403 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: and Greta Garble and such, and allegedly, I've got to 404 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 2: say allegedly because there's a men of eminence, but not 405 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 2: a huge amount of evidence, but there's enough of it. 406 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: M So here's the thing. This sewing circle. The sewing 407 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: circle was like this. It isn't like a club, you know, 408 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: it's not like a member's only jacket. No, although we 409 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: should have sewing circle jackets if you want, like, let's 410 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: do that sewing circle, a little sewing circle. Oh, img 411 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: will be amazing, wouldn't it. Yes, So basically, the sewing 412 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 2: circle was more of a concept. And I'm not saying 413 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: it's like a ring, you know, it's not like a 414 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: drug ring, but it's a lesbian ring. 415 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 416 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: Effectively, So lesbians in Hollywood, whether they were actors, actresses, actors, 417 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,719 Speaker 2: whether they were actresses or behind the scenes or writers 418 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: or you know, the wife of Jack Warner of Warner Brothers. 419 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 3: Just saying, so they were. 420 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,479 Speaker 2: Lesbians and Hotllywood effectively, and that was the sewing circle. 421 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: So I think Tulula Bankhead, Claudine Colbert, so on and 422 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: so forth, Marlene and Dietrich and Marlena is having affairs 423 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: men women. Howmever, having the best life because of this, 424 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 2: because of this sort of known secret of who she 425 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 2: was and who she was doing. That's kind of where 426 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: Hollywood sort. 427 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 3: Of loses its fizz with. 428 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 2: Her and she gets an interesting offer. So it's the 429 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 2: mid thirties. Her films are doing okay, but they're not 430 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 2: quite and she starts dating John Gilbert. John Gilbert had 431 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: gone from like silent movies to talkies, and he had 432 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: a very light speaking voice, but the studios tried to 433 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: like alter his voice and like post to kind of 434 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 2: go make it sound a bit more manly and as such, 435 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: like this rumor mill started going out. They had a 436 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: high pitched, squeaky voice, and it kind of tanked his career. 437 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 2: Didn't tank his love life, though, because he was married 438 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: four times and like in the middle of like i 439 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 2: think between marriage two and three, he's dating Guerta Garbo, 440 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: who ends up leaving him at the altar like drama 441 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: Drama Central. So allegedly his last marriage ended because of 442 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: his affair with Marlena, but they like officially start dating 443 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 2: between like nineteen thirty five and nineteen thirty six, and 444 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 2: she tries to get him a comeback in one of 445 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: his films because you know, things are not going great 446 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: for him, but it doesn't work, and he basically drinks 447 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: himself to death, like that's what happens, you know, And 448 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 2: Marlena is very upsetal for this, Like she actually breaks 449 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: down crying in a church like sobbing. I mean, I'm 450 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: hoping it's real and it wasn't just for show, Like 451 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: it'd be nice to know that she had that level 452 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: of empathy when you know what they say, nothing gets 453 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: you over the last one like the next one, and 454 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 2: she starts getting down with Douglas Fairbanks Junior, who was 455 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 2: very much married to Joan Crawford. Now there are whispers, 456 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: there are rumors that it probably happened. So basically there's 457 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: there's a rumor that Joan Crawford was also part of 458 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: the social social circle, no, the sewing circle. She was 459 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 2: also part of the sewing circle, so that's right, and 460 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: they end up like going on holiday together, like Marlena Dietrich, 461 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: Douglas Fairbanks Junior, like her husband Rudolph, and Rudolph's mistress, 462 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: like just everybody all at once. But yeah, there's the 463 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: thing as well in Hollywood at the time and across 464 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 2: America actually is there was a thing called a lavender marriage. 465 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: And a lavender marriage was that usually put together by studios, 466 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 2: you know, where if one person was like a lesbian 467 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: or a gay man, and they would marry them to 468 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 2: make them look like a headone orgative couple. Even if 469 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 2: even if say, for example, both of them were bisexual, right, 470 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 2: it would be like that because have you ever noticed 471 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 2: that if bisexual people like if a woman is bisexual, 472 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: you know, men often think that women are like pretending 473 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 2: to like other women, you know, for performative reasons for men, 474 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 2: or that they can be easily quote unquote turned, you know, 475 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: and that gay men are. 476 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 3: Going to be obsessed with them. 477 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: Like it's funny how the very concept of sexuality revolves 478 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: around men. And but I digress. So these lavender marriages 479 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: would happen. I'm not saying this was one. I'm just 480 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: saying that, you know, they assume that both of these 481 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 2: people are going to be promiscuous and they're both gonna, 482 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 2: you know, fuck men. But the point is they wanted 483 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: it to look like this was a marriage, a real 484 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 2: March Jeniue marriage. But it's Hollywood, so how much is real? 485 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 2: So yeah, these uh, there's rumors that she was having 486 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 2: a wee thing. We don't Catford sous, rumors she was 487 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 2: having a thing with May West. You know, just Hollywood's weird, 488 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. So, like the whole thing with 489 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: her Banks Junior is if she was chatting to somebody 490 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 2: that she was, you know, interested in lays interested in her, 491 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 2: is she would let him listen in on the phone 492 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 2: call and then let him go like absolutely ape shit 493 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: ranting about her suitors, which is I mean, it's a 494 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 2: level of like petty that I don't want to aspire to. 495 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 2: But also I appreciate her tenacity. But yes, this is 496 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: the point where she is box office poison quote unquote. 497 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 3: Are you know? 498 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 2: And she she has fans, right nineteen thirty nine, good 499 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 2: bunch of fans, and one of which is you know, 500 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 2: the leader of the Third Right. So not the kind 501 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 2: of fans you want, you know, I get it, I 502 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 2: get it. I wouldn't want anyone following me or being 503 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 2: interested in me. I don't want Nazis, like in any capacity, 504 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 2: to be supportive of me, like I don't. I don't 505 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 2: want you, just like I don't want conservatives or Republicans. 506 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 2: I want decent human beings who actually, you know, don't 507 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: need explain to them that you should care about other people. 508 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: That basic empathy is not virtues signaling, you know, not 509 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 2: keen on that in any capacity, not my thing. 510 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,879 Speaker 3: No, thank you byeye. 511 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, she's not doing me on the box office. 512 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 2: But you know. 513 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 3: That's right. 514 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 2: The Nazi government, you know, Nazi Germany, they contact her 515 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: and they request that she stars in a range of 516 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 2: propaganda films, you know, to show how amazing Germany is 517 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 2: and the Third Right and everything that goes along with that, 518 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: but like two years previously, she had already applied for 519 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 2: American citizenship and she was like ready to renounce, and 520 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 2: she says what she was doing, she was renouncing her 521 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 2: German citizenship because she was like, I'm not fucking involved 522 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 2: with this bullshit. I'm not my circus, not my monkey's no, 523 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 2: thank you adios Adolf, like fuck off, no, and very 524 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 2: much a fuck this for a game of socials. But 525 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 2: when they request, when they contact her, when they ask 526 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 2: her to be in these propaganda movies, play response nine, 527 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 2: just nine, like, oh, we love you, You're amazing when you 528 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 2: be in this movie. Want you to promote her horrific 529 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 2: fascist agenda? No, like I love it. It's like the same, uh, 530 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 2: the same feeling I get about Princess Alice of Battenberg 531 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 2: where she's just like letting a cigarette and just being 532 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 2: like no, like I love it, like. 533 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 3: No, like I love the just. 534 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 2: Putting the ash out on the fucking soldiers like shoes, 535 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 2: like no, Like that's also terrifying. You've got gobles and 536 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 2: det lar being like, come be in her movies, get 537 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 2: to fuck me. No, oh actually no, I'm correction correction 538 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 2: already No, it wasn't nineteen thirty nine, it was nineteen 539 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 2: thirty seven, so it was like. 540 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 3: Pre war. 541 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 2: So like she was watching what was happening in Germany 542 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 2: and they're like, come and support her homeland, and she's like, no, no, 543 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 2: she doesn't want to be involved in that, and like 544 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 2: straight away it's actually after this straight away she's like, nope, citizenship, 545 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 2: thanks bye bye, and that's what she does. She doesn't 546 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 2: renounce her German cityship citizenship until nineteen thirty nine, when 547 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 2: you know, the war technically starts and she's like definitely gone, 548 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 2: thanks by, but yeah, bold move and we love it. 549 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 2: So Marlena Dietrich she actually starts fundraising to get Jews 550 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 2: out of Germany. So she starts like raising money for 551 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:54,399 Speaker 2: Jewish refugees and she ends up donating what was it 552 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 2: her entire salary from one of her films in nineteen 553 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 2: thirty seven, you know, like half a million dollars. I 554 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 2: think it is like towards this like fundraising. And when 555 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 2: World War two breaks out, like she like doubles down 556 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 2: on it. So like she'd gone back to Paramount, tried 557 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 2: a romantic comedy. Things did not go down well. Yes, 558 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 2: the movie was a knight without armor. So then when 559 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 2: obviously the war breaks out, World War two, and she 560 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 2: becomes one of the first like celebrities, you know, public 561 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 2: figures to start selling war bonds. And the biggest part 562 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 2: is is like she actually sells more war bonds than 563 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 2: any other like person, any other celebrity, any other She 564 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 2: sells the fucking most, because of course she does. Like 565 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,439 Speaker 2: she even then starts doing like the USO sort of thing, 566 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 2: like the tours where she visits the troops, and so 567 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 2: she even goes like pretty close to the German front, 568 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 2: and uh, she gets she gets contacted by the OSS, 569 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 2: so the big of the British sort of secret service, 570 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 2: and they ask her to make a series of recordings 571 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 2: in German, the whole purpose of which is to like 572 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 2: demoralize German soldiers, which I mean, I don't know how 573 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 2: you can bring down the morale of Nazis, because you know, 574 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 2: they're Nazis and pretty shite human beings and lack again 575 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 2: empathy and consideration. But yes, she's so she ends up 576 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 2: doing these recordings, which is fucking brilliant, like and and 577 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 2: so like you'd think, you know, she's doing the bonds, 578 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 2: she's raising money for Jewish refugees. She's, ah, she's got 579 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 2: these weird messages going on, she's visiting trips near the front, 580 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 2: Like yeah, but Jed Groover is convinced that's right. President 581 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 2: of America is convinced. No, he wasn't the President of America. 582 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 2: That's a lie. He was ahead of the FBI. 583 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 3: Fuck me, I'm tired. 584 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. So he's the head of the FBI 585 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 2: and he's like, that bitch is a German spy, and 586 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 2: he ends up having her tracked and followed, which I 587 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 2: feel was not the best use of you know, those 588 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 2: money and manpower just feels like a waste really. So 589 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 2: they end up like tracking her and like stogging her 590 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 2: and like going through her mail and whatnot, and they 591 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 2: don't find, you know, any like conspiracy in any spying. 592 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 2: What they do find is salacious details and so many, 593 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 2: so many lovers, just an abundance of lovers, some might say. 594 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 3: And so. 595 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 2: During World War Two as well, which is like so 596 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 2: fucking funny, is that people assumed that she was easy, 597 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 2: you know, because she was known to have all these lovers, 598 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 2: and they thought, you know, they think, if you're bisexual, 599 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 2: you're clearly as slut right, that's just how they do things. 600 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 2: And so Ma'm would come up to her and they'd 601 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 2: be like trying to get it all, and she was like, 602 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 2: I'll sleep with you over Hitler's dead body. So i 603 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 2: will sleep with you over Hitler's dead body. Like yeah, yeah, 604 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 2: when he's dead, then I'll consider you. 605 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 3: You absolute call gwombo. 606 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, she wasn't really into the whole fascist 607 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 2: Germany situation, unlike her sister, who was like running a cinema, 608 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 2: hosting things for Nazi trips and just generally supporting them. 609 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 2: And so when she tries to get to the States, 610 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 2: she expects Malena to like help her get there, and 611 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 2: she's like, no, I'm disowning you and her husband and 612 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 2: your son because you know, nazis not happening. I mean, well, 613 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 2: she kept them safe at first, and she vouched them, 614 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 2: and she was like, they didn't do it, they were 615 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 2: just in a bad situation. And then over time she 616 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 2: was like, no, actually, their fucking assholes. I'm done with them, 617 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 2: which you know, I respect. I respect being like doing 618 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 2: it alive with people who allied with Nazis feels like 619 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 2: a good litmus test, you know, shitty family aside, Molina 620 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 2: gets awarded the Jon d'arneum from France and the US 621 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 2: Medal of Freedom for extraordinary record entertaining trips overseas during 622 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,240 Speaker 2: the war. But like she gets his award and that's 623 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 2: going great. But uh yeah, yeah, still not creating the 624 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 2: box office. So her professional life is not it's not 625 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 2: going well, but again personally not so bad. So at 626 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 2: this point, Marie's in boarding school. 627 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 3: So she all she gets to school, which is nice. 628 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 2: So her daughter's in school, and she'll go visit her 629 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 2: husband and she'll go visit well, her husband and as 630 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 2: mistress and Tamara, that's her name, Tamara, And so she 631 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 2: would go there and go to parties and she would 632 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 2: just take these long trips and use it as excuses 633 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 2: to go sort of connect with, you know, other celebrities 634 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 2: and other well known people like honest fucking came Away 635 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 2: and things. Things are you know, they're warming up for 636 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 2: her and she ends up having these long love affairs. 637 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:56,280 Speaker 2: She's got Freed, she's got Mercedes de Costa, she's got 638 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 2: Dolores Delrio and. 639 00:44:59,000 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 3: So on and so forth. 640 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 2: You know, I mean, she's getting around, she's getting around. Basically, 641 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 2: there's you know a rotating door. It's rotating, revolving, it's 642 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 2: a revolving door of lovers and they're just going through. 643 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 2: And one of our lovers, Jean Jarbin, he is so 644 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 2: mad that she's like sleeping with other people. And she's like, 645 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 2: you knew this when you got in this with me, 646 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 2: Like I'm married and you are here staying with me 647 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 2: in my house and you're mad I'm sleeping with someone else. 648 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 3: Like what feels like a double standard. 649 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 2: And he would respond to her actions with his fucking fists. 650 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 2: He would beat the shit out of her, and clearly 651 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,280 Speaker 2: not wanting to take things lying down. 652 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 3: She decided to just nope out of that situation. 653 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 2: No, not dealing with that, which again fair, but she 654 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 2: did get like a wee bit of revenge, which I 655 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 2: am proud of. Is like, so he'd gone back to 656 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 2: France for reasons, and he left like a bunch of 657 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 2: really expensive paintings behind and that he was planning to 658 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 2: come back and deal with and she just fucking sells 659 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 2: them all because of course she does, which is, you know, 660 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 2: the least she could do, considering he beat the crab 661 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 2: out of our absolute shit bag. Oh. Actually, here's one 662 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 2: of my favorite stories. About Mariena Dietrich is like she'd 663 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 2: gone out to like a bar, and she was flirting 664 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 2: with a serviceman at a bar, as one does girls 665 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 2: like a man in uniform. What can I say? Girls 666 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,800 Speaker 2: like a girl in uniform with like women in uniform, 667 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 2: not girls. I don't want a girl's gut, that's creepy. 668 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:47,280 Speaker 2: I want a woman in a will cut suit sing 669 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 2: or a man and a will cuts it or a 670 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 2: man or a woman, a gender non cowoman person and 671 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 2: a cozy cardian. Everyone that's cutting a cozy cardian anyway, 672 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 2: like an owl. Ooh, okay, the medicine's kicking in. So yeah, 673 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 2: Marlina is flirting with a serviceman and a bar, and 674 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,760 Speaker 2: he is so taken with her that his wife actually 675 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 2: cites her as the reason for their divorce, even though 676 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,879 Speaker 2: they didn't know more than like flirting a fucking bar. 677 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 2: But anyway, her film career's not doing great, and so 678 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,439 Speaker 2: she ends up going back to the stage. So from 679 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 2: like the nineteen fifties all the way up to the 680 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 2: nineteen seventies, she's in you know, she's on the stage. 681 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 2: She's doing cabaret like performances, like she's in Paris, London, 682 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 2: Las Vegas, Berlin, like she's she goes on the stage 683 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 2: tour in Europe like in like the sixties early sixties, 684 00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 2: and she ends up in Berlin, which is well, it's 685 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 2: still split, it's separated at this point. So she goes 686 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 2: to West Berlin and she gets booed. They're like, Marlena, 687 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 2: go home, and they're like totally pissed at her. And 688 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 2: there I think there's like two bomb threats for the 689 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 2: stage that she's on, and it's like she's like shaken 690 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 2: up by this obviously. But then when she goes to 691 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 2: East Berlin and she performs there, everyone's like, yay Marlena. 692 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 2: So you know, swings and roundabouts. But yeah, she's out touring, 693 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 2: she's performing, she's singing, she's doing her stuff, and even 694 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 2: though she's doing all this, she's still doing a bunch 695 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 2: of other people. So at one point she's she's in 696 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 2: a relationship with You'll Brunner, you know from The King 697 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 2: and I You'll Bernner, who's, yeah, the man who like 698 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:59,800 Speaker 2: was involved in the Vietnam baby situation, like with the Playboy, 699 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:05,399 Speaker 2: and it's madness. It's wild anyway, So she's with Mike 700 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 2: Todd and George Bernard Shaw and John Wayne and Kirk 701 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 2: Douglas and Frank Sinatra. Like she is just getting into 702 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 2: everybody and like her and Riddolph are still married at 703 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 2: this point, and like she is supporting them, like financially, 704 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 2: she buys them a ranch in California and it gets 705 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 2: It doesn't go well for Rudolf's mistress though, because she's 706 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 2: ill and she starts like declining like mentally, and she 707 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 2: gets agrophobia and she's like stops eating and speaking, and 708 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 2: she ends up getting committed to a mental institute, you know, 709 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 2: because they're like she needs to go here, and she 710 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 2: goes there and another inmate attacks her and kills her. 711 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 2: And like she had been with you know, we'd al 712 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 2: super for like thirty five years, Like Maria saw her 713 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 2: as like another mother, and yeah, she passed away. It's 714 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 2: passed away. She was fucking killed. So like in the 715 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 2: sixties and the seventies, so like throughout that period, like 716 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 2: she starts using various techniques to mold her body. So 717 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 2: she does like spanks before spanks, she has quote unquote 718 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 2: body sculpting undergarments, you know, shapewear, and so she's like 719 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 2: making the shape where and like wearing it. And she's 720 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,879 Speaker 2: also doing non surgical facelips. It's tape, it's all taped, 721 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 2: so she like tapes her face back and then puts 722 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 2: a wig on and she like disguises it. And she 723 00:50:55,480 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 2: has this fucking brilliant quote. So she says, kethel grooming 724 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,759 Speaker 2: may take twenty years off a woman's age, but you 725 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 2: can't fall a flight of stairs. So yeah, you might 726 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 2: be like conjuring and taping her face back and stable 727 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 2: in bits and the wagon, but yeah, yeah that those stairs, 728 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 2: they're still gonna be tough to climb, you know what 729 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 2: I mean. So yeah, she does that, and then in 730 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 2: nineteen sixty five, she gets diagnosed with cervical cancer and 731 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 2: this is just not not great for her, and so 732 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 2: she ends up taking like like she's set of medicating 733 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 2: with like booze and painkillers, and it gets to the 734 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 2: point where like this is just like really starts taking 735 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 2: a toll on her. And then like things start going 736 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 2: wrong with her legs, like the circulation starts going and 737 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 2: she's having a lot of trouble with it. And in 738 00:51:55,040 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy three, she ends up fracturing like her left 739 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,759 Speaker 2: her left thigh and she has to get like skin 740 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 2: crafts and a bunch of other stuff, so they well, 741 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 2: a leg will hume because it just wasn't. And then 742 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy four she falls and breaks her leg, 743 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 2: right leg, so it's like left thigh, right leg, and 744 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 2: she ends up like just not being able. 745 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,320 Speaker 3: To like perform properly. 746 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,759 Speaker 2: But like at some point during this as well, she 747 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 2: ends up in a movie with David Bowie. David Bowie 748 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 2: Bowie Boie. I don't care she ends up in a movie. 749 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 2: I mean, of all the queer icons to smoosh together 750 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 2: in a film, I mean, it's not a great film, 751 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,839 Speaker 2: but you should still watch it because I mean, i'd 752 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,920 Speaker 2: like to say they sing. She kind of sings. She 753 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 2: does what she believes is singing again, respect the drip, 754 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:58,719 Speaker 2: Like god, the woman had such good style. And yeah, 755 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 2: so she's she's breaking bets all over the place. I 756 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,839 Speaker 2: fucked it up again. She fractures like one leg, she 757 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 2: fractures the other leg. And then in seventy five she 758 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 2: breaks her thigh bone and she's like, Okay, no more 759 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 2: stage for me. I'm done now, and she has to 760 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:19,399 Speaker 2: basically like stop doing the whole stage performance because she's 761 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 2: too old to do it now. In seventy six, her 762 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 2: husband Rudolph dies, he passes away, and seventy eight that's 763 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 2: when she's in the justa Jiggalow movie with David Berry 764 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 2: and like they're in the movie, like she's like the 765 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 2: madam of the brothel and he works for her. It's 766 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 2: it's a movie that exists. So after this, she basically 767 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 2: becomes like a reclose herma and she just like goes 768 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,879 Speaker 2: back to her little apartment in Paris where she only 769 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 2: has like family or servants, and she doesn't like go anywhere, 770 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,320 Speaker 2: but she does spend a lot of time on the phone. 771 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 2: She has a monthly phone battle of like three thousand 772 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 2: quid because she's phoning everybody. So she's phoning world leaders 773 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 2: like Margaret Thatcher and ron o' reagan and this is 774 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,240 Speaker 2: the eighties and she's just like calling all these people, 775 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 2: like she's trying to save like a Babel's back theater 776 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,359 Speaker 2: and so like she's happy to speak, but she doesn't 777 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,840 Speaker 2: want to be filmed, which is fair enough. So she's 778 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 2: like chatting to the people and she's trying to like 779 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,879 Speaker 2: save like this thing or she's talking about the fall 780 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,240 Speaker 2: of the Berlin Wall and you know it's it's being 781 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 2: like shared across like the BBC and like French radio 782 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,840 Speaker 2: and all that jazz and like, allegedly, according to her grandson, 783 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 2: like the reason she had phone up with these politicians 784 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 2: was to give out shit to them for being dis 785 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 2: I just love the idea of Malina Ddrich just being 786 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,920 Speaker 2: on the phone to Margaret Thatcher being like, listen here, beach, 787 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 2: have you tried, you know, not being a cunt, like, 788 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,839 Speaker 2: but yeah, I love the idea of it. So at 789 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 2: one point she gets like these calls from a doctor 790 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 2: who offers to like fly out and see her, and 791 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,840 Speaker 2: she's like, don't speak to me, and she cuts them off. 792 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 2: And then a few weeks later she allows him to 793 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 2: phone her again and he's like, I'm spending ninety dollars 794 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 2: an hour on this therapist and she's like, why give 795 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 2: money to the therapist when you can give money to me, 796 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 2: And so like he sends her a check and she 797 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,319 Speaker 2: like sings to him on the phone every night, like 798 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 2: that's commitment. So Marlena she becomes bedridden and just can't 799 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 2: go anywhere, and eventually her kidneys give up and on 800 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 2: the sixth of May nineteen ninety two, the age of ninety, 801 00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 2: she passes away from kidney failure in her home in Pais. 802 00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 2: Her funeral was a requiem mass held in Paris, which 803 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:05,759 Speaker 2: i'd like fifteen hundred like mourners with like important like 804 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:12,760 Speaker 2: dignitaries and whatnot from Germany, France, England, Spain. The French 805 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 2: president is there and he's got like the legion of 806 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 2: honor and everything for her. And yeah, she has her 807 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 2: funeral in France, and she is buried in Berlin, fairly 808 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 2: close to her mother actually, and then like the majority 809 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:35,840 Speaker 2: of resity is sold to the Steve Tungue Deutsche Kinematic 810 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,319 Speaker 2: so becomes like the main part of the exhibition of 811 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 2: the film Fieldhouse in Berlin. And so the family then 812 00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:53,800 Speaker 2: also sell like a bunch of goodness, just papers and 813 00:56:53,840 --> 00:57:00,040 Speaker 2: correspondents and letters and you know, costumes and prop It 814 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:01,439 Speaker 2: was some one of the stuff that she'd taken from 815 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 2: like the stage of movies, and all of her personal 816 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,759 Speaker 2: effects get sold to like auction, so you know they 817 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,879 Speaker 2: were out there. You could buy them if you had 818 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 2: enough money, if you wanted to. So yeah, thus ends 819 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 2: the story of Marlena Dietrich who was yeah, very polarizing 820 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:31,600 Speaker 2: figure in many scenarios. And if you liked my retailing 821 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 2: of the story, even with my gravelly see voice, please 822 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 2: feel free to rate in review five stars and appreciate it. 823 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 2: But of course it is recommendation time, so I'm I'm 824 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 2: gonna recommend for watching, just to check a lot, go 825 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 2: watch the movie you should love your best life. Treat 826 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:59,320 Speaker 2: yourself for reading. I'm gonna suggest it's not a bloody 827 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 2: trend this book about I Don't Adhd. If you were 828 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 2: not it with ADHD, which you may be because you're 829 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 2: listening to me, you might want to go read it. 830 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 2: And for listening. For listening, David Bowie, go listen to 831 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 2: some David Boie style manly single the Sky. 832 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:22,480 Speaker 3: You deserve it. 833 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 2: Go to it, and with that I shall bite you. Goodnight, 834 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:32,480 Speaker 2: adieus all of whim my friends, Bye bye,