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Speaker 3: Thank you well, Podsitive reinforcement from the Orchestra. We are

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Speaker 3: going to talk now, and we've got a lot on

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Speaker 3: electric cars this half hour. The only company that seems

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Speaker 3: to be very popular with drivers is Tesla. Of course,

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Speaker 3: their cars are very expensive, but they run really well.

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Speaker 3: Most people, if they can afford a Tesla, are happy

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Speaker 3: with it. And it's actually kind of shocking that two

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Speaker 3: billion of them, nearly every vehicle it makes, are being

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Speaker 3: recalled a problem with autopilot and the driver monitoring systems.

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Speaker 3: Mike Debuski, ABC News Technology reporter is going to explain

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Speaker 3: specifically what's gone wrong here. Mike, how are you welcome

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Speaker 4: I'm doing well, John, Yeah, thanks for having me on,

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Speaker 4: and you're not under selling it. This is a huge

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Speaker 4: recall for Tesla. Basically, if you own a Tesla, there's

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Speaker 4: a really good chance your car is under recall right now.

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Speaker 4: And as you mentioned, it all comes back to their

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Speaker 4: autopilot system, which is essentially a very advanced cruise control

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Speaker 4: system that Tesla offers its standard on all new Teslas.

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Speaker 4: It's been around for a few years and essentially what

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Speaker 4: it does is it will speed up and slow down

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Speaker 4: Highway Traffic Safety Administration says the monitoring systems that Tesla

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Speaker 4: watching Netflix, those systems aren't sufficient enough and that Tesla

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Speaker 3: So it doesn't monitor autopilot, but it monitors the driver

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Speaker 3: to make sure that he's awake if he needs to

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Speaker 1: So think of it this way.

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Speaker 4: The idea is that you have to keep your hands

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Speaker 4: it needs to recognize that you're there. When this system debuted,

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Speaker 4: John A. Few years ago, there was a whole host

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Speaker 4: So NITZA took issue with that. They opened an investigation.

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Speaker 4: That investigation is ongoing, but they say that these systems

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Speaker 4: You know, they got to beef those up a little bit.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've never been driven in a tesla. I

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Speaker 3: not familiar with how it works. These people would would

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Speaker 2: It really can do.

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Speaker 4: That, yes, with an asterisk right, So this again is

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Speaker 4: A following distance, and then slow down to whatever speed

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Speaker 4: is not a new technology. Mercese actually introduced adaptive cruise control,

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Speaker 4: S class. This is a system that is very popular

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Speaker 4: on Tesla's As I said, it's standard. People can turn

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Speaker 4: want to under sell it. But it's not like Tesla

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Speaker 3: Right, So what's specifically wrong with the monitoring system to

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Speaker 2: Well, what's the failure of it? Right now?

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Speaker 4: Again, the way that the federal government sort of phrases this,

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Speaker 4: have you. The other systems that are out there. General

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Speaker 4: little bit more on GPS, right. General Motors sent a

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Speaker 2: I've rented a car.

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Speaker 3: It was really irritating because every time my eyes darted

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Speaker 3: like shut up, all right, good, Well, some of that

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Speaker 4: Well, So the software update that Tesla is shipping to

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Speaker 4: it affects all the cars they make. But this is

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Speaker 4: not a recall where you have to take your car

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Speaker 4: This is something that Tesla is going to just send

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Speaker 4: that this update will add more of those alerts to

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Speaker 4: This investigation is remaining open, so there could be more

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Speaker 3: This wasn't a manufacturing era. Tesla knew that it was

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Speaker 4: That's right. Yeah, no, of course, and it's not like

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Speaker 4: this was a flaw necessarily. But clearly the government is

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Speaker 4: implemented with this system, they're just not enough. They're not sufficient,

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Speaker 3: Who the hell would trust technology enough to climb in

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Speaker 2: So that's just stunning to me.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't want to speak for you know,

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Speaker 4: the drivers here, but Tesla does say, you know, they

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Speaker 4: Safety Administration saying that they're going to ship a software update,

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Speaker 4: but they also touted exactly how safe autopilot is. They

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Speaker 4: say that there is incontrovertible data that shows autopilot saves lives,

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Speaker 4: that this level of automation actually cuts out human error

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Speaker 4: the driving public. There's a lot of questions with that,

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Speaker 4: but they cited example, so Tesla pushing back on that

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Speaker 2: I don't think I'm ever going to believe that. But Mike,

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Speaker 2: thanks very much for all the information.

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Speaker 3: Take Mike Debuski, ABC News Technology reporter on the autopilot

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Speaker 3: system in at Tesla. You know, they say, I see,

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Speaker 3: I've come to the end of the line when it

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Speaker 3: their statistics, their charts, their research, their studies. I just

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Speaker 3: don't believe a lot of the scrap anymore. Would you

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Speaker 3: get would you go land a backseat?

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Speaker 2: No way. I don't like my eyes open when certain

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Deborah Mark has got the news.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, coming up next.

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Speaker 3: Well, since we're on electric vehicles, Congress and the Biden

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Speaker 3: administration spent seven and a half billion dollars on EV

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Speaker 3: The every day there's stuff about electric vehicles which make

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Speaker 3: as one of the biggest boondoggle ever. They Biden got

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Speaker 3: After two years, none have been built, not one charging station,

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Speaker 2: Zero. That would be a nothing.

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Speaker 3: The EPA is mandated by twenty thirty half of all

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Speaker 3: know the dunts that you people voted in, as governor claims.

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Speaker 3: By twenty thirty five, it's got to be one hundred

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Speaker 3: percent of electric vehicles sold. One hundred percent. Now, yesterday's

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Speaker 3: news was that so few people are interested in buying

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Speaker 3: they're only going to build half as many. It seems

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Speaker 3: twelve to eighteen months, twelve to eighteen months on.

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Speaker 2: Average, And according to.

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Speaker 3: A research group called Global Mobility SNP Global Mobility, Stephanie

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Speaker 3: Brindley says that the US needs to see the number

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Speaker 3: of EV chargers DRUPEL between twenty twenty two and twenty

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Speaker 2: How are you.

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Speaker 1: The big thing they want is there's something an asylum.

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Speaker 2: Right, and then nobody has standing to sue over it.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. There's only a political solution here. One thing the

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Speaker 1: administration can do is something the Republicans are trying to

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Speaker 1: get is requiring remain in Mexico to be reinstituted. That's

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Speaker 1: where if you make an asylum claim you're an illegal alien,

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Speaker 1: you can make it, but you have to go way

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Speaker 1: back on the other side of the border for your

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Speaker 1: hearing dates, so you don't just disappear into the United States.

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Speaker 1: The problem is Mexico would need to agree because these

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Speaker 1: aren't Mexicans. These are third country people who came through Mexico.

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Speaker 1: This administration will make it clear to Mexico with a

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Speaker 1: wink and a nod, please do not agree so that

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Speaker 1: we can't do it. So there's all kinds of things

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Speaker 1: this administration could do to obstruct even if the Republicans

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Speaker 1: get what they want, but it would be a huge

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Speaker 1: step in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: They really are fanatics on this They really are fanatics

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Speaker 3: on this issue. Orient Thank you for coming on. Thank

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Speaker 3: you the Center for Immigration Studies. All right, when we

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Speaker 3: come back, did you know that forty two thousand illegal

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Speaker 3: aliens have been dumped on the streets of San Diego.

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Speaker 3: That's happened, and what are they doing with all of

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Speaker 3: them in San Diego? And your breathing is contributing to

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Speaker 3: global warming and it must be stopped.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 5: six forty.

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Speaker 3: Can you get to this headline immediately? Now, I'm not

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Speaker 3: making this up the Daily Mail as the story. Now

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Speaker 3: scientists say breathing is bad for the environment. Gases we

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Speaker 3: exhale contribute to one tenth of one percent of the

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Speaker 3: greenhouse gas emissions. Carbon dioxide and methane is what the

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Speaker 3: body well, we exhale it and it's in our burps

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Speaker 3: and farts. So if you've got a lot of gas,

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Speaker 3: you are causing climate change. This study, this is a

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Speaker 3: real study. It's methane and nitrous oxide we exhale in

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Speaker 3: one way or the other. And in fact, the tenth

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Speaker 3: of a percent that doesn't even account for the burps

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Speaker 3: and farts.

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Speaker 2: That's an addition.

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Speaker 3: Doctor Nicholas Cowan is an atmospheric physicist at the UK

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Speaker 3: Center for ecologen Hydrology in Edinburgh. Exhaled human breath can

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Speaker 3: contain small, elevated concentrations of methane and nitrous oxide, both

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Speaker 3: of which contribute to global warming. Doctor Cowen said, we

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Speaker 3: would urge caution in the assumption that emissions from humans

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Speaker 3: are negligible because, as you know, we breathe in oxygen,

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Speaker 3: we exhale carbon dioxide. See, the air enters the lungs.

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Speaker 3: The oxygen from that air moves to the blood. The

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Speaker 3: carbon dioxide is a waste gas moves from the blood

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Speaker 3: to the lungs and is breathed out, and then the

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Speaker 3: os the oceans boil over. So if you're alive and

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Speaker 3: you're breathing, it's your fault.

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Speaker 2: That's another reason why you want the exit bag. Right. Well,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to contribute to this. I know you're

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Speaker 2: you're very conscientious.

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Speaker 3: I think the best thing we could do is maybe,

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Speaker 3: like collectively the whole audience, if we just.

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Speaker 2: Handed out like a mass suicide. Sure, I don't think

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Speaker 2: that's such a good idea.

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Speaker 3: So like that that cult with the remember the pudding

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Speaker 3: and the purple shrouds.

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Speaker 2: What was the name of that cult, Heaven's Gate? Was

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Speaker 2: it Heaven's Gate?

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Speaker 3: I think so back in the nineties, and they all

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Speaker 3: they all ate poison pudding. They covered their faces with

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Speaker 3: purple shrouds, and they and they all died.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's what our that's what our government

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Speaker 2: would like.

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Speaker 3: Now, is that if we just all took the exit

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Speaker 3: bag and stopped emitting carbon dioxide and nitrous oxide and methane.

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Speaker 3: In fact, here's what they did in the test, where

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Speaker 3: participants had to take in a deep breath, hold it

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Speaker 3: for five seconds, and then exhale it into a sealable

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Speaker 3: a sealable plastic bag. They collected three hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: eight breath samples, and after analyzing, they found that nitrous

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Speaker 3: oxide was emitted by every participant, methane and thirty one

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Speaker 3: participants and of course carbon dioxide. People that had more

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Speaker 3: methane were more likely to be female and above the

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Speaker 3: age of thirty. So it looks like you or well,

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Speaker 3: you were one of the worst contributors. Adam a vegan,

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Speaker 3: so I ate a lot of vegetables, right, So there's

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Speaker 3: all kinds of methane tootes coming at you, right yeah,

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Speaker 3: And well it's got all these trites and graphs here.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I knew this day was coming because

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Speaker 3: it's human being on the planet that causes all the

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Speaker 3: greenhouse gases to be admitted one way or the other,

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Speaker 3: including from our miserable bodies.

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Speaker 2: So this is where they were headed. I think we're

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Speaker 2: running out of time here.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to this next hour about the forty two

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Speaker 3: thousand migrants dropped on the San Diego streets. Also, right

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Speaker 3: after Debra's news, we're gonna have Richie Greenberg gon. We've

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Speaker 3: had him on a few times. He ran for mayor

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Speaker 3: in San Francisco, but he appeals only to a small

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Speaker 3: segment of the electorate because he's rational. And you may

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Speaker 3: have heard the clip we played yesterday from Dean Preston,

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Speaker 3: who's this socialist supervisor in San Francisco. His district is

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Speaker 3: the Tenderloin District, which has thousands and thousands of zombie

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Speaker 3: drug addicts, homeless vagrants who are shooting up and dying

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Speaker 3: and rotting in the streets. You know, zombies who ingesting

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Speaker 3: fentanyl and xylazine and heroin.

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Speaker 2: He's blaming capitalism.

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Speaker 3: We're going to play you the Dean Preston clip and

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Speaker 3: then talk to Richie Greenberg, former mayoral candidate up in

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Speaker 3: San Francisco, and we actually got a lot of good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Next hour on The John Coblt Show, KFI AM six forty. Hey,

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Speaker 3: you've been listening to the John coblt Show podcast. You

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Speaker 3: can always hear the show live on KFI AM six

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Speaker 3: forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday,

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