WEBVTT - Ep. 69: Nice Carp-skie There, Bud

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<v Speaker 1>I flew all the way to the Keys to catch

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<v Speaker 1>my first amberjack on my new slow pitched chicken rod,

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<v Speaker 1>and shark bet him in half. And that's not fair.

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<v Speaker 1>You right to found uh Lake st Clair there because

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<v Speaker 1>you said they're too easy to catch out there. But

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<v Speaker 1>that don't matter. Still fun frick to catch. I do

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<v Speaker 1>him two swabs up my nose and touch my brain

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<v Speaker 1>to get up to Canada to ice fish this winter.

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<v Speaker 1>And I came back at the end of the day

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<v Speaker 1>and she had prinked o Taylor Swift photos and put

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<v Speaker 1>them all over my guide jack room. Good morning to

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<v Speaker 1>generate anglers, And welcome to Bent, the fishing podcast that

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<v Speaker 1>once got pulled over by a mounte for blasting closer

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<v Speaker 1>to the heart too loudly a little too close to

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<v Speaker 1>the four way moose crossing. I'm Joe Surmelie and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Hayden Samac And do I detect a hint of Oh Canada?

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<v Speaker 1>Why else? Why else would you bother referencing Rush if

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't going to talk about Canada? You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? I hate rush Man, I hate I hate

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<v Speaker 1>prog in general. I hate yes, like if I liked

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<v Speaker 1>watching assholes do math in front of a bunch of nerds.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd have stayed in college. Oh come on, man, say

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<v Speaker 1>Getty Lee. Who's Getty Lee? Getty Lee? Best base player ever? Cood? No,

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<v Speaker 1>truth be told. I'm not really in the rush either.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a big fan, but I am into Canada right,

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<v Speaker 1>And we haven't checked in with Canada in a while, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we have lots of friends and listeners up there, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>the last time we heard from one was in the

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<v Speaker 1>Nibbles and SIPs and I was just braided for saying

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<v Speaker 1>the name of a hockey trophy incorrectly. Like that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I could voice memo. You couldn't find it within yourself

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<v Speaker 1>to correctly pronounce Stanley. No, no, man, it was some

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<v Speaker 1>obscure trophy. Damn it. It wasn't the Stanley Cup. Um. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever fished in Canada? Uh? You know I haven't. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>But they're like, that's not to say I'm not like

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<v Speaker 1>interested in it. There's a bunch of ship that I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to do up there, like you know, obviously like

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<v Speaker 1>BC Salmon and Steele, Atlantics and Nova Scotia. I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to do uh those like big old like ten

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<v Speaker 1>pound Brookies and Labrador Yeah, yeah, I've I've done the Atlantic,

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<v Speaker 1>so I scratched that. But the Labrador Brookies, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do that very badly too. I have not

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<v Speaker 1>gotten there yet. And I remember, um, I guess it

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<v Speaker 1>was a couple of years ago now when when Orvis

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<v Speaker 1>dropped that video of those massive brookies up there hammering

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<v Speaker 1>my master spooner flat. I was like, well, that's just terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>Like had it been for me, you probably wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>catching those. Tom Rosenbauer and I didn't get invited, so whatever. Yeah. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of like people skating for steel head, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I never get tired of watching like brookies hit huge

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<v Speaker 1>top water bugs like midday. That would be of course,

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<v Speaker 1>not that would be wild. I mean, that's that's truly

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<v Speaker 1>a bucket list thing. Um. You know, honestly, I just

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<v Speaker 1>love to, like I can't believe I'm gonna say this,

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<v Speaker 1>but to the surprise of many listeners, I would just

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<v Speaker 1>love to walleye fish up in Canada, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of those smaller lakes, just like loaded with like

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<v Speaker 1>eater size fish, most because of the flas Hey, man,

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<v Speaker 1>don't be sorry, that works too. And I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to point out to the Bent fans, I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>were listening, because now there is a pro Walleye person

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<v Speaker 1>here every week, you can no longer say that both

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<v Speaker 1>Bent host dislike Walleye. Um. Yeah, and nothing wrong with

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<v Speaker 1>that at all. And then there's there's so much water

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<v Speaker 1>up there, so much unspoiled water compared to down here

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways. Um. Anyway, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>headed up to one of those eater walleye lakes are

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful sponsors. Thirteen fishing could definitely get you more of

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<v Speaker 1>them to eat faster, especially on hard water. Tis the season,

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<v Speaker 1>I might suggest the micro magic Man, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>tiny one in lipless crank and even though it's tiny,

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<v Speaker 1>it's loud as hell. Okay, rattle them right in like

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<v Speaker 1>a big Buck man. What do you know about rattling

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<v Speaker 1>in big Bucks? Absolutely nothing, nothing whatsoever. Uh, thank you anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So why the Canadian theme? Why here? Why now? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because we've got some big news um out of Canada

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<v Speaker 1>to share with you guys. But I'm gonna let the

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<v Speaker 1>man responsible for that big news tell you what's up.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's fire up a little covering water segment with

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<v Speaker 1>our old pal and brother from the north, Ja Siemens,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going in. I hold it all right, joining us

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<v Speaker 1>today for covering water are old pal Ja Siemens. J.

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<v Speaker 1>You've not been here in a while. How the heck

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<v Speaker 1>are you? Man? It's been a minute. It's it's been good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's winter now. It's all I see is white looking

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<v Speaker 1>at my office. And uh, it went from open water

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<v Speaker 1>season ice fishing season in a hurry. Yeah, it's still

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<v Speaker 1>open water here and I'm still very okay with that.

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<v Speaker 1>But um yeah, a little further north than we are.

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<v Speaker 1>So I tee it up that you are here for

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<v Speaker 1>a very specific reason today. You have an announcement to make.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted us to make it together. Something is happening

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<v Speaker 1>today on the meat eat or YouTube channel. What is

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<v Speaker 1>that we got? Uh, we got a new series drop

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<v Speaker 1>and called The Canadian Angle. Something I've been chipping away

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<v Speaker 1>out over the summer and it's gonna be a phishing

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<v Speaker 1>series I'm hosting on the Mediator YouTube channel and m

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the play on words on the Canadian Angle

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<v Speaker 1>is me being a videographer but then also the angling

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<v Speaker 1>side and being a Canadian. So I love it, man,

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<v Speaker 1>It's very smart. It's like pet smart. Is it pets

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<v Speaker 1>smart or pet smart? Like we don't actually know, um.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, man, So I've been really excited about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really pumped that you are officially doing your own

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<v Speaker 1>series now with Meat Eater UM episode one today. What

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<v Speaker 1>are we looking at for episode one? Episode one? UM

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<v Speaker 1>doing something unique? We went from kind of the food

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<v Speaker 1>chain in the springtime. But you normally you go to

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<v Speaker 1>the tackle store, you buy your leeches, and you go

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<v Speaker 1>walleye fishing, right, But now I wanted to take it

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<v Speaker 1>back a couple of steps. So we started off by

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<v Speaker 1>going to the creeks in the spring as they're thawing

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<v Speaker 1>and the sucker start running up the creeks. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you just recently did a sucker video. So we started

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<v Speaker 1>by netting some suckers and then from that chunked them up.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned the art of leeching, so trapping leeches, which

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<v Speaker 1>is something I've never done before. So I have a

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<v Speaker 1>buddy in town here that is a commercial leech trapper,

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<v Speaker 1>so he brought me along. We use those suckers we caught,

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<v Speaker 1>went and set traps for leeches. Came back the next

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<v Speaker 1>day there was leeches in our traps and then I

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<v Speaker 1>finished it off by going walleye fishing on Lake of

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<v Speaker 1>the Woods. So it's it's pretty cool showing how much

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<v Speaker 1>work goes into getting the leeches, and then it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the full full cycling things. Yeah, man, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's a new one for me. I've never really given

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<v Speaker 1>much thought to how the leeches end up in the

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<v Speaker 1>tackle shop. I don't know anything about that. I understand

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<v Speaker 1>why why you can pay so much of them. I

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<v Speaker 1>understand why they're sixty bucks a pound. It's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because you've seen how much work goes into doing that. Now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well so dude, I'm I'm very excited for it. We've

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<v Speaker 1>we've had you one, We've done tackle hacks with you.

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<v Speaker 1>We've done i think multiple smooth moves with you, the

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<v Speaker 1>one where you sunk your boat that was a classic.

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<v Speaker 1>But we have not had you here yet for covering water. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a little bit different than what we've done

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. Hayden, What tell j what what covering

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<v Speaker 1>water is all about? All right, So here's how covering

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<v Speaker 1>water works. We're gonna put two minutes on the clock

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<v Speaker 1>and rapid fire some questions at you and basically intentionally

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<v Speaker 1>give you no time to answer. You can't think. You

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<v Speaker 1>just got to react. And at the end we'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you one full minute to expand on any answer that

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<v Speaker 1>you like. We whichever answer you know was the biggest mistake,

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<v Speaker 1>you can try and explain it away or completely retracted

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<v Speaker 1>if you like, Yeah, you can just make it go away.

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<v Speaker 1>So and I also I should point out there, like

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<v Speaker 1>the last few covering waters, I put two minutes on

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<v Speaker 1>the clock, but I don't know why because we we

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<v Speaker 1>always go over two minutes just because we're having such

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<v Speaker 1>a good time. But I think the whole point here

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<v Speaker 1>is to sort of um, you know, the fire some

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<v Speaker 1>things out there that will show us the wishing and

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<v Speaker 1>the non fishing side of jay siemens, which is good

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<v Speaker 1>now because we want people to love you on the

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<v Speaker 1>Canadian angle even more so if you're feeling good, we

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<v Speaker 1>will we will begin. So I mean to put two

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<v Speaker 1>minutes on the clock here, and Hayden, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>start and let's go now. Is modern technology making ice

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<v Speaker 1>fishing too easy? No? What is the weirdest non target

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<v Speaker 1>species you've ever caught? Oh? An eel? Okay? Do trolled

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<v Speaker 1>muskies count? Yes? Absolutely? When is the last time you

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<v Speaker 1>threw a daredevil oh man, probably seventeen years. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you throw a lot of five of diamonds

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<v Speaker 1>right once in a while, once in a while. Right

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. Okay, finish this sentence. The band rush

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<v Speaker 1>is uh before my time. Finish the sentence. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no desire to fish for oh um, microfish, for minnows. People.

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<v Speaker 1>Books have been written about it, volumes. I'm like, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, okay, in your free time, would you rather

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<v Speaker 1>catch one trophy walleye or a whole mess of yellow

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<v Speaker 1>perch trophy walleye? There you go. It's your career has

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<v Speaker 1>taken a major turn and you have become the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>Canadian rapper since Drake. Much like Action Bronson raps about food,

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<v Speaker 1>you rap about fishing. What is your rap name? Your

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<v Speaker 1>rap name? King Cod? I I did not know that

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<v Speaker 1>question was coming. By the way, anyway, What's what's so

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<v Speaker 1>good about Tim Horton's anyway, They're always open for fisherman,

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<v Speaker 1>open around the clock. Name an underrated fish for the

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<v Speaker 1>frying pan um, freshwater drum A good one, good one? Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The number one species still on your bucket list is

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<v Speaker 1>GT Janer Valley, me too, man, mullet or bowl cut?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the second one? Bowl cut? Oh? Bowl cut?

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<v Speaker 1>I like the mullet for sure. There you go. Who

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<v Speaker 1>is the greatest musky angler of all time? Mike Lazarus? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever gone all in on a piece of

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<v Speaker 1>gear or a technique only to have it proved to

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<v Speaker 1>be a fad? And if so, what was it? Oh man?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's half the musky bits I own

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<v Speaker 1>right on? All right, see if you remember this one?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the last CD you purchased? Not music you downloaded,

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<v Speaker 1>physical CD you purchased? Oh man, probably Taylor Swift? Okay, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>alright when we got a time for one more hit?

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<v Speaker 1>And hit him with one more? What is the most

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<v Speaker 1>overrated lure in your opinion? Over rated lure? And? Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a fantastic question. I think I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>the five diamonds? Really? Oh? No, way, a controversial because

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<v Speaker 1>that is a controversial one. Yeah, okay, that's interesting. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's the most overrated lure of all time? Well? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you that jokes about it? Because I just posted a

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<v Speaker 1>picture on Instagram with my biggest pike ever on a

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<v Speaker 1>five of diamonds, but in the same Yeah, it's that's

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<v Speaker 1>a that's a big one. Oh. I gotta say, having

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<v Speaker 1>spent enough time in Canada pike lodges, it's like your

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<v Speaker 1>average owner, I feel like in a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>places is just like five of diamonds, five of diamonds. Five.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like all they throw and I'm like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a good spoon. But there's a lot more out there

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<v Speaker 1>than the five of diamonds, right, alright, alright, So so

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<v Speaker 1>Joe kind of forced you into extrapolation on on that answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you got one minute to choose one. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>So anyone you want, we'll give you. We'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>a minute to to expand on any one of those answers.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, let me think about which one was given

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<v Speaker 1>given our audience. I might suggest the Taylor Swift one,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's probably not the one that you want to do. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I can talk about Taylor. No, I'm kidding, fan, whichever

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<v Speaker 1>one you want. There was a fit when I guid it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sixteen years old guiding at the first lodge,

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<v Speaker 1>the lodge that I sunk that boat at, and I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned to one of the girls in camp that I

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<v Speaker 1>was a Taylor Swift fan and I came back at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day and she had printed out

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift photos and put them all over my guide

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<v Speaker 1>shack room. So I never really lived that one down. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but in fairness, I'll give you one more, any any

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<v Speaker 1>any any other ones you want to tell us more

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<v Speaker 1>about the ice fishing. Is ice fishing getting too easy?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's growing the sport more than anything. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you know now shocks from going to non thermal

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<v Speaker 1>now they're thermal shack so you don't need as big

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<v Speaker 1>of a heater, you don't need like as much propane,

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<v Speaker 1>so it makes it easier to get on in the

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<v Speaker 1>cold days. Electronics is getting better, which uh you know it.

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<v Speaker 1>It keeps people more engage. If you can have a

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<v Speaker 1>kid starting underwater camera, I think that's better than them

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<v Speaker 1>staring at their phone in the shack. Right. All those

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<v Speaker 1>things is making ice fishing so accessible. And that's the

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<v Speaker 1>big thing with ice fishing is you don't need an

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<v Speaker 1>eighty thousand dollar boat about to get into it acts

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<v Speaker 1>and you get even here, three shack and a heater.

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<v Speaker 1>You can fish in any conditions on any size lake.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I mean obviously you can add to that

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<v Speaker 1>and get a snowbile and all those other toys. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's becoming more accessible than every and that's why the

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<v Speaker 1>sports growing so fast. And I think that's a great answer, man.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the side of it that I think people

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<v Speaker 1>overlook that you know, everybody loves to gripe about while

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<v Speaker 1>it's like playing a video game now, it's just too easy.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to put the work in. But you're right, like,

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<v Speaker 1>we need people to keep fishing going forward in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>And if that is what's going to engage people to

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<v Speaker 1>get out there and enjoy that more, that's that's one

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<v Speaker 1>reason why it is definitely not a bad thing. Um

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<v Speaker 1>so what are we're gonna see what kind of technology

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<v Speaker 1>you're busting out on the Canadian Angle? Round one, Round one,

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<v Speaker 1>little little side scan man, there's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>there's a little bit of live scope, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. It's at a little bit later on techno.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think season two, I shouldn't even be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Season two. No, no no, we're breaking the rules.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't talk I know a little bit about Season two.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't talk about that yet. We can't talk we'll

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<v Speaker 1>just get through season all. I just want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>Season one ends with one of my favorite fish of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, so you gotta you gotta watch through right

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<v Speaker 1>till the end. But uh yeah, I'm I'm excited for

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<v Speaker 1>the ending fish for season one. Dude. They will keep watching.

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<v Speaker 1>I will keep reminding them this was a lot of fun. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so pumped to have the Canadian Angle launching today. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's running for at least four weeks, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>four weeks, um, But dude, this has been a blast.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe maybe down the road, you know, I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to have you in a B side. Maybe I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>in the Canadian Angle. We'll see, But I know everybody

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<v Speaker 1>wants to put me on the ice. I know I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get there, I promise. So again, the Canadian Angle drops today.

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<v Speaker 1>You definitely need to check that out. Maybe I'll even

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<v Speaker 1>be in one with Jay down the road. Who knows, right, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but man, he is. Jay is just a terrific angler,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm so excited that he's doing some official work

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<v Speaker 1>with the Meat Eater. Yeah. He's also just like a

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<v Speaker 1>really really nice fella, like like that guy that your

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<v Speaker 1>grandma would meet and would afterwards to be your Your

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<v Speaker 1>friend is such a nice young man. Yeah, yeah, totally,

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<v Speaker 1>well he is. Man. We've said on this show that

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<v Speaker 1>that Canadians are just generally nicer people than us, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm about to further that notion. Can we

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<v Speaker 1>do if you don't mind, we do a quick voice memo.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we need to make this an entire

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<v Speaker 1>Nibbles and SIPs segment, but I want to play it

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<v Speaker 1>only well. I mean it's callers from Canada, right obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, yes, yes, yes, yeah, So this comes from

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<v Speaker 1>north of the border and it was sent to me

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<v Speaker 1>by at nerf Work boys, so I'm thinking that's North

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<v Speaker 1>Fork nerf Work. I love that. Um and and he

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<v Speaker 1>says his name is Cletus, which may or may not

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<v Speaker 1>be an alias, but he's very nice. So let's listen

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<v Speaker 1>real quick. Oh hey there, this is cleats up from

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<v Speaker 1>Nerfer County in Canada. I got carp story too for you.

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<v Speaker 1>It starts selling musky fishing on Lake Sint Clair there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that U you ain't too fund uh

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<v Speaker 1>Lake St. Clair there, because you say they're too easy

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<v Speaker 1>to catch out of there, But that don't matter. Still fun,

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<v Speaker 1>it's bricked to catch. So we was on the fall

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<v Speaker 1>fishing them in the river mouth there and uh, guy,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm throwing these big rubber dogs. I hooking to a monster.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I think, at least they and uh, we're

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<v Speaker 1>fighting him for like ten fifteen minutes. All the boats

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<v Speaker 1>around us are like, oh, my goodness, is a fifty inchur.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get her up boat side and nod to

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<v Speaker 1>think where she's a fifty inchurer? But guess what she

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<v Speaker 1>ain't She a big old carp. She's the biggest carp

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<v Speaker 1>I ever did see a big old rubber lips bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than big enough to make any old European carp fisherman

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<v Speaker 1>blush bad. So uh yeah, big old carp Lake St. Clair.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't catch any musky, And uh that's my nibbles and

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<v Speaker 1>SIPs for you. We'll see if she gets on there.

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<v Speaker 1>But so you just have a great old day there

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<v Speaker 1>all right now? Oh yeah, thank you Bud Well clean

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<v Speaker 1>us from the great Northern uh the great north Woods.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you say? Well, yeah, but he's not that

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<v Speaker 1>far north. If he's fishing St. Clair, he's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be right outside Detroit, so he's not like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the but it reminds me of me and my buddy

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<v Speaker 1>David Uh. We used to have this gag whenever we'd

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<v Speaker 1>go ice fishing. We go by the alias is Ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>of Cletus and Jebediah. And every time, yeah, every time

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<v Speaker 1>I tip up, will go off. Please go, get go,

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<v Speaker 1>get out on that tipple right now. I bet that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get annoying happening all day long, all day Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what, man, you're drinking of beer. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>it just gets funnier and funnier. I love how he

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<v Speaker 1>takes a very backhanded shot at you for saying that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't like the same Claire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know which is it's not true, Okay. I have

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<v Speaker 1>suggested in the past that St. Clair has a reputation

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<v Speaker 1>for being the easiest place to catch muskies. But I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't give it that reputation. Damn it. Like I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make that up. That's a that's a known thing in

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<v Speaker 1>muskie circles, especially if you're trolling, which a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people do there. Like the guy who's never spent hours

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<v Speaker 1>breaking his wrist throwing a double cow girl gets his

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<v Speaker 1>fifty there and he's like got it. I'm like no,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't. You got it, but you didn't earn it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. Musky fishing is interesting to me,

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<v Speaker 1>but like as much as I am, I guess you'd

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<v Speaker 1>say fly fishing inclined. I much rather do muskies conventional.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you're and you're a very smart man. You're

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<v Speaker 1>smarter for that, um totally. I Lord knows, I've learned

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<v Speaker 1>that fly fishing for muskies anyway. I gotta say I

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<v Speaker 1>got such a kick out of this voice memo there.

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<v Speaker 1>But because this has happened to me, I am not

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<v Speaker 1>a muskie zealot. I chased them time to time. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lake not far from me at all that

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<v Speaker 1>is classified as a trophy musky lake. I fished it

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<v Speaker 1>probably a dozen times over the years, never seen a muskie,

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<v Speaker 1>never moved a muskie. But the last time I was

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<v Speaker 1>out there, I got thumped and this fish was not small.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm full on, like my buddy lunges for the

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<v Speaker 1>net game on this is it finally pound carp with

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<v Speaker 1>the glide bait in its back. That was it. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the last time I ever fished that lake looking

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<v Speaker 1>for a muskie. What I'm saying, yeah, Yeah, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>can definitely see how that would be a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a kick in the ass. Um. You know, my

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<v Speaker 1>leg sort of running joke out here is like is

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<v Speaker 1>it the fish of the day or is it another

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<v Speaker 1>ass hooked whitefish? You know what I mean exactly? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of a of a little kick in the ass,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to deliver another one when I beat you

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<v Speaker 1>in a weekly competition we like to call fish news.

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<v Speaker 1>Fish news. That escalated quickly, so not really much housekeeping

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<v Speaker 1>this week. Um. The only thing I got what I

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<v Speaker 1>was called out on a mispronunciation, and I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>rectify that if I may. Uh in our our last

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<v Speaker 1>that's my bar. We covered Eagle Valley Resort in what

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<v Speaker 1>I said was posh, Nevada, and that was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be pronounced poh shit, posh poch. I still don't really

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<v Speaker 1>know how to pronounce pos pos posh, that's what posh. Interestingly,

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<v Speaker 1>if you talk to Remy Warren, he will probably also

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<v Speaker 1>reprimand you for saying Nevada if you are from that area. Nevada, Nevada. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Now that's been the same guy hit me

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<v Speaker 1>on that too, and I was like, I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>that much about it as a dude who regularly fails

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<v Speaker 1>to pronounce ship that he reads, I feel your pain

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm I'm here for you. Man. Yeah, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal. It's gonna happen, but but I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I have to say what happened. So posh is

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<v Speaker 1>spelled p I O C h E, and listener end Parks,

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<v Speaker 1>who sent the submission even spelled it out phonetically from

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<v Speaker 1>my dumbmass, but he wrote p dash oh dash with like.

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<v Speaker 1>So looking at it again now I see that he

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<v Speaker 1>meant it to be po but like, in a moment

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<v Speaker 1>of haste, because I'm always juggling four things, I took

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<v Speaker 1>it at face value and just read it as posh,

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<v Speaker 1>as in posh pie you know who was inferior to

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<v Speaker 1>Ginger your spice. So sorry, Nevada, Nevada, I apologize. I

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<v Speaker 1>I could see how you would make that mistake. I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna rip on you if that makes sense. Thank you. Go.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So that's it. That's housekeeping this week. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>on with it. Remember, fish News is a competition. At

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<v Speaker 1>the end of this are apparently non stovetop loving audio

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<v Speaker 1>engineer Phil will declare a winner. I know, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe not right. Last week I think we irked Phil.

0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I think we rattled Phil's cage. He did call his

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<v Speaker 1>assholes and then declared Lake Trout the winner of Fish News.

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<v Speaker 1>So Phil, we're sorry. I won't even ask about Rice

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<v Speaker 1>Erroni or a pizza flavored hamburger Helper or Lipton microwave

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<v Speaker 1>noodles because now we know that's not what you're about. Okay, fair,

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<v Speaker 1>But Hayden, what are you about? It is your leadoff

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<v Speaker 1>this week? Man, what do you got? Alright? So Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>this week in Fish News, we're going back to Australia. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>little minute work right there, Phil? Thanks? So today we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about the Great Barrier Reef. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to surprise a lot of people. We're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about how totally it is. That's refreshing. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we are, but only to contextualize some like good news.

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<v Speaker 1>So did that end? Here's the little ray of hope

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<v Speaker 1>for one of the great wonders of the natural world.

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<v Speaker 1>This comes to us from the Washington Post. This week,

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<v Speaker 1>scientists observed a massive coral spawn on the Great Barrier Reef.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. Uh, that's not really there's not really like

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch to the story. It's just kind of something

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<v Speaker 1>that happened. It's a fact. So you may be asking,

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<v Speaker 1>why bring this up? This is a weak ass story, Hayden,

0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:17.840
<v Speaker 1>where you rushed and had a bunch of other ship

0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:22.920
<v Speaker 1>on your plate. First of all, yes, that's exactly what happened. Secondly, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this story does have some legitimate meat on the bone,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have to look beyond the actual event and

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<v Speaker 1>talk more about the implications of this event. Um, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>knows the coral reefs are in trouble. How much trouble

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<v Speaker 1>do you ask? A study conducted by the Global Coral

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<v Speaker 1>Reef Monitoring Network published in October of this year, concluded

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<v Speaker 1>that between two thousand nine and two thousand and eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>climate change is killed four of the world's coral reefs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a big deal and it's everywhere. It's all it's

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<v Speaker 1>it affects like all coral reefs everywhere. Yeah, for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of folks, we hear warm and a eate it

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<v Speaker 1>with bad And that's where our understanding of the issue

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<v Speaker 1>between coral and climate change ends. Because information is power,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to offer you an explanation of what actually

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<v Speaker 1>goes down and exactly why the warming is bad even

0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 1>for these tropical reefs. Uh, just what because information? Because

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<v Speaker 1>information is power. That's like a PS. That's like a

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<v Speaker 1>g I Joe p s a for bent whatever Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>When we when we think of coral, we typically think

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<v Speaker 1>of shades of like pink, orange, blue, green, etcetera, etcetera. Well,

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:41.679
<v Speaker 1>that coloration is largely due to the algae that covers

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 1>the coral itself. Coral has a symbiotic relationship with algae.

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 1>The coral provides it with a home, and in turn,

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the alergae feeds it. When coral becomes stressed due to

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<v Speaker 1>outside pressures, including but not limited to a warming environment,

0:24:56.760 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the coral expels that algae. This is called coral bleaching. Basically,

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:06.439
<v Speaker 1>as a result of the vacated algae, the coral turns white. Unfortunately,

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 1>this lack of algae now not only means the coral

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<v Speaker 1>is is white is joe summertime farmer's tan, It also

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:17.440
<v Speaker 1>means that the coral now has nothing to eat, which

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 1>caused it to starve and die. Yeah, So that those

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:22.719
<v Speaker 1>are like the images that they try and tug at

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the heartstrings with where it just looks like a wasteland

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<v Speaker 1>of like dried bones where coral reef used. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's serious, and lately it's been occurring it as scale

0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 1>much larger than has ever been seen before, including mass bleachings.

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:43.639
<v Speaker 1>In fact, the first mass bleaching event ever observed killed

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<v Speaker 1>eight percent of the world's coral reefs in a single year.

0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I think the second mass bleaching event that year was

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<v Speaker 1>my hair, but that's a different We will now for

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:02.280
<v Speaker 1>some good news. It has been observed that coral reefs

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<v Speaker 1>can indeed recover from a bleaching event. In smaller bleaching

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 1>events when the root cause has been controlled and conservation

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:14.720
<v Speaker 1>practices implemented, there's been a significant recovery within those coral reefs.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the good news. This is what they're hoping can

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<v Speaker 1>happen here, and the fact that the coral is still

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<v Speaker 1>spawning points to reproductive potential even under pressure. So really,

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 1>this story highlights one big important point. We can do

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<v Speaker 1>something about a problem even when it's gotten, you know,

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:36.640
<v Speaker 1>cross the line into a dire situation. Things are never

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<v Speaker 1>really too far gone to at least recover a meaningful

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:43.440
<v Speaker 1>portion of And just because the situation is dire doesn't

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>mean that it has to end in certain doom. Yeah. Man,

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean we've we've covered stories here before about like

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>there's other organizations that are trying to move and replant coral. Um.

0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:57.879
<v Speaker 1>But I you're making a good point here, and you

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 1>can apply this to a lot of different conservation stories. Um.

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>We often feel the need to be like, well, it's

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:07.439
<v Speaker 1>it's all screwed and it's never coming back. Um. But

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>it's the wrong attitude and you sort of have to

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 1>start somewhere and and sort of find the good in

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:16.360
<v Speaker 1>all of these problems. Um. So I mean, dude, that's

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>that's good news for the entire environment. Plus all the fish.

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 1>If all those dead zones that that you see, all

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>those bleaching um you know videos, it's just it's horrible. Um.

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:29.360
<v Speaker 1>If that has the potential to come back, then that's

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:32.640
<v Speaker 1>good for everybody, even if it is on a small portion. Yeah. Yeah,

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 1>And we can really look to other conservation success stories

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 1>to give us hope here. You know, one that comes

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 1>to mind is, you know the wild turkey population in

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the early twentieth century. I mean they were like something

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 1>like thirty thousand wild turkeys left in America and now

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 1>and if if you have eyes. You see turkeys. Yeah,

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean I see turkeys and I'm not even looking

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 1>for him. I almost hit turkeys with my car. And

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:00.640
<v Speaker 1>when when it comes to like the wall A specifically,

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're doing all sorts of interesting things. Um.

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 1>There there's been a legitimate recovery of coral reefs in

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<v Speaker 1>the time of COVID when tourism has slowed down, Like

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 1>that's like a big part like the problem. Um you

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:17.440
<v Speaker 1>also see art the success of artificial reefs. So there

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:19.919
<v Speaker 1>is a lot of potential for good. And you know,

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 1>don't listen to a news story that's just totally you know,

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>forecasting doom and gloom and irreversible, forever forever damage and

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 1>just resign yourself to it. You know, there is always

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 1>something that can be done in the name of conservation

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>to either protect what we have or hopefully, is is

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>the case with this, you know, eventually restore to its

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>to its original luster. Yeah, man, no, this is great.

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I I The only thing I think is funny is

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 1>it's sort of it's like all news these days. It's

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 1>also just depends on who you talk to, you know

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like it's kind of like, um, yeah,

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>I had to say. It's kind of like with COVID,

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>like you read the headlines. One day it's like we're fine,

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 1>and the next day like in the same we're all done. Yeah, whatever,

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>good news is always more uplifting. Um. And I guess

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 1>there are some people who would say that, um, there's

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 1>some success in the recovery of sharks. Sharks have a

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of problems, and that's gonna that's gonna tie you

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 1>into my story here. But I just I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start this by saying very quickly and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised in your hasty went Carl Reef verse grabbing

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 1>this Because yes, we know that a new state record

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>muskie has been caught in Minnesota, which is kind of

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>a big deal, seeing that the state record has stood

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>for sixty four years, kind of a big deal. I'd

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>like to congratulate angler Nolan Sprinkler on that catch, which

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>weighed fifty five pounds fourteen point eight ounces. But if

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm being totally honest, the story surrounding it isn't all

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>that compelling to me, right, Like, like he went muskie

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>fishing on Lake Malax, plus pounder happened to eat his lore.

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of a gist, right, it's awesome, but instead

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 1>I chose a complete sleeper of a story buried in

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>the news feed, mostly because it allows me to make

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 1>fun of people and I think we'll have a better conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, here we go. This comes from the website

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<v Speaker 1>Eureka alert dot com headline Jaws of Defeat Angler's emotions.

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I love a good fun. Yeah, I know, I know,

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>we all know. Uh, jaws of defeat angler's emotions towards

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>shark depredation is key to conservation. Now, by depredation, what

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>they're talking about, what this entire story is centered around,

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 1>is a shark attacking a fish that you are reeling in.

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I just want to be clear on that. So here's

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<v Speaker 1>the lead directly from the story. In a broad scale

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 1>study recently published in Fisheries Research, researchers from the University

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 1>of Massachusetts Amherst quantified the emotional and behavioral responses to

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<v Speaker 1>shark depredation in recreational fisheries. Are saying that people don't

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 1>like it when sharks like munch their forty pound yellow fin.

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, but that's kind

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 1>of what I'm saying The study found that anglers and

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>especially recreational fishing guides experienced depredation were more likely to

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<v Speaker 1>have a negative response towards sharks, and we're thus more

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 1>likely to target sharks for additional harvesting. So well, but yeah,

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's it's debatable, right, we'll get there. So

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the article suggests that um depredation is an ever increasing

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>problem for two reasons. One um is that long standing

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 1>shark conservation efforts are allowing shark populations in certain regions

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:43.479
<v Speaker 1>to bounce back, so there are more sharks. The second

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>is that the number of recreational salt water anglers is

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 1>growing year over year, so more struggling fish onlines for

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>sharks to eat. I would agree with both of those things,

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>absolutely no argument there. Um. I've heard from several bodies

0:31:57.200 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>in Florida in particular, that it does team like there

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 1>are more sharks than ever, and we do know it's

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 1>getting more crowded on the water. So you did you

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<v Speaker 1>happen to see that video with the zombie shark? No,

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>what's the zombie shark? I half almost picked it up.

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>It's just a video somebody took. They they were reeling

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>and it looked like a reef shark and it got

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>attacked by I think a bull shark. And I mean

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>like half this thing's body is missing and still swimming

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 1>around like trying to get off the line, but also

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 1>trying to snag like other fish in the chumps lag.

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't disbelieve that. Man, they don't have large brains,

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes it takes a while for them to fade

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 1>in moments of trauma. And it's actually anyway Gray's. Castleberry,

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<v Speaker 1>lead author of the study, believes that this rampant depredation

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<v Speaker 1>is quote helping to drive the perception that sharks are

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<v Speaker 1>a threat, which in turn could lead to retaliatory actions

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>that could lead to over harvesting of sharks. So for

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<v Speaker 1>this study, Castleberry and her team sent a survey to

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<v Speaker 1>loads of recreational saltwater anglers and guides across North America.

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<v Speaker 1>Five and forty one of them responded. Survey questions included

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<v Speaker 1>which kinds of fish were most often depredated and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>in a nutshell, how did you feel when the mean

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 1>shark took the yellow tail snapper off your line? Not good? So,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the findings, over of respondents noted that they

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 1>had had a fish taken by a shark at least

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 1>once in the last five years. Of that group, well

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>over half had seen more than twenty depredation events in

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the same time period and had actually seen the shark

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>take their catch. Furthermore, the study found that while the

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 1>anglers were more likely than guides to feel a sense

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>of all or even excitement when witnessing shark depredation, guides,

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>who tend to experience depredation more frequently were far more

0:33:55.880 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 1>likely to feel anger, distress, and sadness. Perhaps even importantly,

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:04.480
<v Speaker 1>the surveyed guides were overwhelmingly more likely to respond to

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:07.680
<v Speaker 1>depredation by harvesting sharks in the hopes of reducing their

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 1>numbers and so protecting the fish stocks they target. Now,

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 1>obviously I have no idea who these surveyed guides were

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:16.839
<v Speaker 1>or where they fish, though I bet most of them

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:20.399
<v Speaker 1>are Southern. But something about those yeah, yeah, but something

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 1>about those reactions doesn't add up to me, right in

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, it would be more likely to be the

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 1>other way around, and I've witnessed it the other way

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:32.280
<v Speaker 1>around countless times. If we're saying part of the problems

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>that there are so many new anglers on the water.

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I would think it's the new beat that gets his

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 1>or her first tarpet or grouper or kingmac chomped off

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:43.359
<v Speaker 1>the line. That would be more sad. And I've seen

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 1>that happen. I just years ago on a bone fish

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>trip um and it was tough, like tough fishing, bad weather,

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 1>and I was with the dude that had never done

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>this before, and he hooked one monster fish on the

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 1>last day, shark took it and he was devastated. Now, Conversely,

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 1>every time I've been out in the Gulf or Florida

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:05.280
<v Speaker 1>with a season captain, it's been around and someone gets sharked,

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:09.320
<v Speaker 1>they don't freak out about it, you know why, because

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>getting it's just it's just part of the game. Getting

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:13.759
<v Speaker 1>sharks is just part of the game. There's a name

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 1>for it in saltwater fishing. It's called paying the tax man.

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you gotta pay the tax man. That's just how

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 1>it goes. And while it's a bummer, I don't know, like,

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>you don't get all whiny about it. It's just part

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:27.799
<v Speaker 1>of the gig, right, Yeah, yeah, I mean I'd be

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 1>inclined to think that, like a lot of these folks

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>who were getting who are surveyed and getting excited about

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 1>seeing like the depredation event. I would think that maybe

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them were like charter casuals, you know,

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 1>like they don't get they just don't. Yeah, they take

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 1>a video and they're like, oh, I'm gonna send it

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 1>to all my friends. You know. I I kind of

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 1>think the same thing. Um. I'm more surprised, you know,

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:56.760
<v Speaker 1>because I don't fully understand these captains responding that getting

0:35:56.880 --> 0:36:00.839
<v Speaker 1>sharked will make them kill more sharks. Now, it's one

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 1>thing to say it will, Like I've heard captain say oman,

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to kill every one of these best and

0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 1>sharks on this reef. But I've never known one or

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 1>met one that, like, on a day off, makes the

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:12.240
<v Speaker 1>effort to go out to the grouper grounds and harvest

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>as many sharks as legally possible in an effort to

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 1>reduce their numbers. I'm not saying that never happens, um,

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not saying there aren't people out there who

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 1>do illegal cowboy shit. But I find the notion slightly

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 1>silly because it's, you know, it's it's the ocean, like

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>these fish roams, so you kill some, they will replenish

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:35.840
<v Speaker 1>um in cases where like every other fish is getting sharked.

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I've seen captain's move to try and get away from them.

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 1>But I can't help but interpret the whole study as

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:45.280
<v Speaker 1>as sort of cloaked in like new school whin nous,

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Like I flew all the way to the keys to

0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 1>catch my first amberjack on my new slow pitched chicken rod,

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 1>and the shark bet them in half, and that's not fair.

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:54.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, sharks shouldn't be allowed to do that. Like

0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:57.400
<v Speaker 1>That's how I'm interpreting a lot of people who responded

0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 1>to this. Um, I don't know. I think it's a

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:02.319
<v Speaker 1>bit of a fruitless study in my opinion. You're worried

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>about over harvesting sharks, like you know, there's there's tens

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 1>of thousands that are illegally finned at sea and dumped

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 1>by commercial operations the world over. Um, you know, recreational

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 1>anguage that might be but heard about having dinner taken

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 1>off the line, Like come on, So I I just

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I just found this strange and interesting. Yeah, it seems

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:30.239
<v Speaker 1>like a like a weird it's just a weird demographic

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 1>to survey about these. To your point, I've never seen

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 1>somebody who's been like that shark took my like, you know,

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 1>my yellow fin. I'm gonna go get that shark. My

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:43.360
<v Speaker 1>dad does a he lives down in Turks and he

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 1>does Yeah. Yeah, he does a ton a ton a

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:52.440
<v Speaker 1>ton a ton of plagic fishing, and he has sharks

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:57.640
<v Speaker 1>ripped tuna from him all the damn time, constantly, And

0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 1>in fact, they're talking about how they haven't seen that

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:04.880
<v Speaker 1>many sharks. Ever, I would venture to say, like most

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:08.319
<v Speaker 1>of the really big tuna that like he's having, not

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 1>like you know, he's like having like an extended fight

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:13.640
<v Speaker 1>with end up getting bitten half by a shark. Yeah,

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:16.319
<v Speaker 1>And I'm I'm not suggesting that there's no merit to

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:18.640
<v Speaker 1>this happening more often, right, Like I said, I've heard

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 1>that from from several people. I just don't understand, like

0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 1>what the what There's there's nothing in the article about like, well,

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>what's the end result here? Okay, So we find out

0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 1>that most people hate sharks when they take their fish

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 1>off the line, But how that translated into some kind

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 1>of of of action, I don't know, Like there's more sharks,

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 1>so it's gonna happen more like you wanna you want

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 1>to play the game. You gotta pay the taxman now

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 1>and again, maybe you gotta pay him more than you

0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 1>used to. But like, what what do we do about that?

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:49.160
<v Speaker 1>It's you know, I understand, man, and I can understand

0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 1>like the sentiment to like, you know, if I shoot

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:53.279
<v Speaker 1>like a deer or something and it gets eaten up

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 1>by coyotes, Yeah, I'm gonna spend a little bit of

0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 1>time predator hunting. But I feel like that's a lot

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.959
<v Speaker 1>differ and then being like they took my wah, who

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to become a shark fisherman allah, like Captain Quinn,

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, And I mean, you know, even if

0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:11.399
<v Speaker 1>you had some guys that were so upset that they've

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 1>had that mentality of I'm gonna go out to a

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 1>reef and like, whack a bunch of sharks, I don't know, man.

0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:19.880
<v Speaker 1>The captains I know who live in extremely sharky territory, uh,

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, Florida and Carolina is in the Gulf, most

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 1>of them don't want anything to do with sharks unless

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 1>they have clients that specifically asked to be taken out

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 1>to catch sharks. You know what I'm saying. Um, So

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I I have no idea what the limits are. It's

0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:37.439
<v Speaker 1>it's very That's the other thing too, It's all over

0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 1>the place with what you can and cannot keep, you

0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like like to use black tips

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:44.440
<v Speaker 1>as an example. I'm pretty sure there's a season or

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 1>maybe year round like, but I think it's one per

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 1>boat and that's legally all you could take in Florida.

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:54.479
<v Speaker 1>And Florida people if I'm wrong, But I'm just trying

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 1>to make a point here that in most there's not

0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 1>many instances where you can legally just go out and

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:02.360
<v Speaker 1>and be like, I'm I will kill as many as

0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I hook today to get him off this reef. That's

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of impractical, you know, you eat shark, ever I do.

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's been a long time, um, and Lord

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:14.719
<v Speaker 1>knows that that things have changed in that arena. And

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even saying that's a bad thing. But I

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>did a lot of mako fishing back in the day

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 1>and and thresher and um, you can hate me for that,

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:25.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't really do it much anymore, and

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 1>the rules have changed. But I'm also not going to

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 1>sit here and say that mako and thresher shark aren't

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 1>like mouth wateringly freaking delicious. Man. I mean, I'd pick

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:39.359
<v Speaker 1>I picked either of those against swordfish any day. I mean,

0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:41.759
<v Speaker 1>it's good. It was common for years growing up all

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:43.879
<v Speaker 1>the sea here restaurants at the Jersey Shore, you could

0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 1>get a mako steak like that was that was nothing,

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you know. I remember I remember going into a market

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 1>when I was a kid and seeing like a mako shark,

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:55.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, mako shark steaks behind the counter, and being like,

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go eat that, man. You know, yeah, I

0:40:57.880 --> 0:41:01.399
<v Speaker 1>mean it really it is fantastic. But at the same time,

0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:04.799
<v Speaker 1>I you have to recognize with makos in particular, there's

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 1>something else in the news about trying to get the

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 1>entire world to agree not to target them commercially anymore. Um,

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 1>people do not catch them here the way they did

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 1>when I was growing up, and even before that, it

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:18.720
<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, it was in the sixties and seventies,

0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 1>it was like all the makoes you wanted. It was

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 1>good when I was younger. Lately, you know, it's it's

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:27.240
<v Speaker 1>not that easy to go out there and do that anymore. So, UM, certainly,

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:31.920
<v Speaker 1>certain unless unless you're like a charter fishing like X

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 1>frat boy, not you know, letting his fly hangover and

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 1>catching seven pounders. Yeah, you know it's hard for me

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 1>to come down. I mean, smooth move reference. I know,

0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I know that. But like I I'm not gonna lie. Man.

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 1>If somebody invited me out on a mako trip and

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:54.920
<v Speaker 1>we called a keeper. I do that so infrequently, you know,

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a charter captain that's out there shark fishing

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 1>week over week in season. Yeah, I don't know, man,

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:03.919
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know how terrible I would feel about

0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:05.759
<v Speaker 1>keeping a legal one because I'm not going to do

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 1>that ten times a year. You know it's probably been

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:10.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you should feel bad about that. If

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I see a thresher in the bunker when I'm striper fishing, like,

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not opposed to trying to catch that. It's all

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>delicious anyway. Um That's what I got. So people stop

0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 1>being sad about the sharks or just I don't maybe

0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 1>try not saltwater fishing in Florida because it's gonna happen eventually. Uh, Phil, coral,

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 1>reefs or sharks, which one takes your fancy? This coral instantly?

0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:37.720
<v Speaker 1>I also believe Phil looks good in the color coral.

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. I think Phil looks good

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:42.919
<v Speaker 1>no matter what he wears, So we will we will

0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 1>hear from Phil and then, um man, we're gonna crank

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the metal and rock the mullet for pretty good awkward

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 1>moments in Joe and Sharks. Sharks and Joe's tailor as

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:00.759
<v Speaker 1>old as time and it's still never it's old Joe.

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 1>You're the winner this week. Hayden. Maybe you shouldn't have

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 1>rushed and put some more time into your story, but listen, man,

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry I had to choose because I don't want

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:20.279
<v Speaker 1>you to feel embarrassed. But if you do, you could

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>always And Hayden, I'll let you go with just a

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit of advice that my grandfather told me the

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:32.360
<v Speaker 1>night before he died. He sat me down next to

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 1>his bedside, told me to lean in closer and whispered

0:43:35.600 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 1>in my ear Phil, M I miss him so much.

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Why did you take a picture a life block? We

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:25.440
<v Speaker 1>got called out recently, Yes we did. On Instagram. Listener

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:31.319
<v Speaker 1>at hunt Fish Sleep seven suggested that lately we have

0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:35.840
<v Speaker 1>not been adequately roasting our awkward moments victims, like we

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:39.279
<v Speaker 1>haven't been harsh enough for something hunt sleep Fish seven

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:42.440
<v Speaker 1>looks like a real estate agent for vampires. Boom roasted

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 1>huntling Fish. I didn't know that was coming. Anyway, I'm

0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:58.240
<v Speaker 1>going to disagree with with him slightly because, in fairness,

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 1>not long ago, I told a poor young fly angler

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:03.719
<v Speaker 1>his favorite fishing shirt looked like the wall paper from

0:45:03.719 --> 0:45:07.960
<v Speaker 1>a circuit nineteen seventy two pornos set. But okay, man, okay,

0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 1>we'll will try well, we'll try and dial it up

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 1>a bit, and this week we have it's a it's

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:17.279
<v Speaker 1>an inadvertent two fur Okay. So listener Mike Baldwin sent

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:20.960
<v Speaker 1>a photo and I said, yep, yes, I will take that,

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 1>and then he immediately sent another one he followed up

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:30.480
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, and I'll be taking that one too, thanks.

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 1>So we got a double feature here from Mike. So

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.399
<v Speaker 1>let's start with the first shot. We'll get right into

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:39.719
<v Speaker 1>it here. Now, this was taken in vintage. Right now,

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:42.239
<v Speaker 1>Mike is holding a bow fin down at waist level,

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>and that's big brownie points right there, right because he

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 1>may have been the only guy taking photos with bow

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:53.680
<v Speaker 1>fin because that hadn't gotten cool yet. Right, it's cool

0:45:53.680 --> 0:45:55.719
<v Speaker 1>now with the frogs and stuff, but not back then.

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. Yeah, two thinks I can't

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:04.800
<v Speaker 1>believe that photos from and also I was gonna get seven.

0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 1>It also appears that that both in, which is it

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 1>looks like a pretty respectable both fish. It's it's not

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 1>small nuts good fish. It appears that that both in

0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 1>is on a stringer, which makes me wonder if Mike

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 1>ate the bothin, because eating both isn't something I don't

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:25.839
<v Speaker 1>think you'see super often. No, No, they're like they're not

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>that popular for food fishing. You're right, there does appear

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>to be an old school like nylon rope stringer in

0:46:32.120 --> 0:46:34.160
<v Speaker 1>its mouth. I'm not sure if he ate it. Um,

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:36.239
<v Speaker 1>but I am sure of is that nobody else has

0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 1>ever gone both in fishing in the super tight, screaming

0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 1>red nuth ugger pants that Mike is wearing in photo

0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:47.799
<v Speaker 1>number one. Now that now look, this photo is cut off.

0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 1>It's cut off mid thigh on Mike, So they could

0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:56.680
<v Speaker 1>be sweats, they could be short. Yeah, but at first glance,

0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:59.000
<v Speaker 1>like when you just look at it, it's like ship,

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 1>where have I seen those pants before? Oh? Yeah, and

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the beat It video. This is like this kind of

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 1>reminds me like a like an uncle ted like Ted

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Nugent outfit. Yes, yes, maybe, but like definitely like the pants.

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, so the shirt. So Mike is wearing a

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 1>faded early nineties style, like what i'd call like a

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:22.320
<v Speaker 1>bum equipment style sweatshirt. Now those, of course they've they've

0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 1>become fashionable once again. But this one appears to have

0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:29.400
<v Speaker 1>been purchased in the Chicago theater district. It just says Chicago,

0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:33.720
<v Speaker 1>and there's a clip art style graphic of a saxophone

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:36.920
<v Speaker 1>and the laughing and crying masks that are like the

0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:40.120
<v Speaker 1>universal symbol for theater. They probably have a real name

0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:42.319
<v Speaker 1>or something, but I don't I don't know what that is. Yeah,

0:47:42.320 --> 0:47:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I honestly have no idea either. But forget all that.

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:47.799
<v Speaker 1>Can we please get to you know what I want

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:51.280
<v Speaker 1>to talk about? Man? Yeah, you're gonna talk about the hair. An,

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:54.759
<v Speaker 1>let's let's talk about the hair, do it? Uh? So

0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Mike is uh I'll tell you what, man, it is

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:03.800
<v Speaker 1>a hell a hell of a blond mullet. It's special.

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:08.520
<v Speaker 1>It's special. It's parted straight down the middle, it's flowing

0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 1>shoulder locks for days, not like he seems to be

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:14.319
<v Speaker 1>a pretty tall guy. I our guess this dude is,

0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:20.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, but the mullet actually makes him significantly taller. Yes,

0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:22.359
<v Speaker 1>While I'm sure it's just the way that his hair

0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:24.320
<v Speaker 1>might have fallen that day, the best way I could

0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:27.040
<v Speaker 1>describe it to, you know, someone who hasn't gone to

0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Joe's Instagram and seeing this picture, Um, it's imagine a

0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:34.879
<v Speaker 1>bald man with flowing locks. And I'm gonna we'll get

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:37.360
<v Speaker 1>to this in the roast too, but flowing locks around

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 1>the sides. And then he just plopped a two page

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:43.760
<v Speaker 1>just right on the top of his head and didn't

0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:45.719
<v Speaker 1>press it down. He just he threw it up in

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:49.600
<v Speaker 1>there and caught it, you know. Yeah. See, I think

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it's just like Moost Quaft or Permit maybe.

0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:56.520
<v Speaker 1>But it looks, Yeah, it looks very strange. So here's

0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:58.919
<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna do to spice up awkward moments. Hayden

0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:02.319
<v Speaker 1>just mentioned a roast right now. Hayden has examined the

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 1>photo and come up with a series of actual roast

0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 1>style shots based on it, and I don't know what

0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:12.879
<v Speaker 1>they are, right, So we're gonna say, let's see how

0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:16.279
<v Speaker 1>many land phil phil can we get, Like I don't know,

0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 1>like some crackling fire or something, So go ahead. Photo

0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:24.000
<v Speaker 1>number one of Mike Baldwin. Uh sorry, in advance, Mike,

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:27.319
<v Speaker 1>you asked for this. Dude small. It looks like it's

0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:31.280
<v Speaker 1>trying to get away from his head. Brian eno saw

0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:33.879
<v Speaker 1>this picture and decided it was time to cut his hair.

0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:37.760
<v Speaker 1>That was not gonna land with a ton of people,

0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:40.000
<v Speaker 1>but the ones that just got that got it real good.

0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Dude looks like he thinks Brian Bosworth is still going

0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:50.759
<v Speaker 1>to turn it around. Dude looks like the medicine man

0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:53.160
<v Speaker 1>and Dances with Wolves bleach his hair and got into

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:59.160
<v Speaker 1>prog rocky. Dude looks like an undercover cop trying to

0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:04.680
<v Speaker 1>bust a hockey t. He said, it is that all

0:50:04.680 --> 0:50:07.760
<v Speaker 1>you got? That's all I got for that one. I'm

0:50:07.760 --> 0:50:09.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna give it to the Dances with Wolves. It's not

0:50:10.000 --> 0:50:12.480
<v Speaker 1>easy to work at Dances with wolves reference in Man.

0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:15.360
<v Speaker 1>That was great. Okay, so then we have Now we

0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:17.759
<v Speaker 1>have a second shot of Mike. I mean the first

0:50:17.800 --> 0:50:21.440
<v Speaker 1>shot he looks kind of tall and skinny and like,

0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:25.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, the ensemble could make him We'll say, like

0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:28.239
<v Speaker 1>the keyboard player in Minute Work or something like that.

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Right now, by contrast, in photo too, Mike is squarely

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:39.040
<v Speaker 1>the roadie for Ministry or Dokin or something. It's quite

0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:42.560
<v Speaker 1>a transformation. Same bullet, which looks a little bit more

0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:47.120
<v Speaker 1>like it looks less. I don't know planned this time.

0:50:47.160 --> 0:50:52.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like the moment, it's natural state, right, just uh,

0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:58.280
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden though, Mike's looking buff, dude, Yeah, yeah,

0:50:58.320 --> 0:51:00.399
<v Speaker 1>he's jacked all of a sudden, right, And now he's

0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:05.279
<v Speaker 1>he's wearing like navy Dickies pants, a vintage Puma T

0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:07.880
<v Speaker 1>shirt with the sleeves cut off, and he's got a

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:10.720
<v Speaker 1>pair of pit viper shades hanging around his neck. Now

0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:13.319
<v Speaker 1>this reminds me a bit of um, you know that,

0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:17.560
<v Speaker 1>like that that classic old shot of Schwarzenegger, like holding

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:21.200
<v Speaker 1>a tiny girl in a bikini cradling her. Right, because

0:51:21.320 --> 0:51:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Mike is holding up a chain stringer, stretching it out

0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 1>in front of him between both arms, and it has

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:31.839
<v Speaker 1>to weigh like fifty pounds. Yeah yeah, the dude. I

0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:34.880
<v Speaker 1>tried to count, and I'm putting like the combined number

0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:37.840
<v Speaker 1>of like Perch and Bluegill and Croppy on that stringer.

0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 1>It has to be close. It's got easily easily, which

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:45.600
<v Speaker 1>based on this hall. Now, I'm kind of thinking he

0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:48.279
<v Speaker 1>probably ate the bowfin. I think I think Mike likes

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:50.879
<v Speaker 1>to eat fish. So um, there's a setup there. That's

0:51:50.880 --> 0:51:54.400
<v Speaker 1>what photo too looks like. Do your thing, man, give me,

0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:57.600
<v Speaker 1>give me the roast of Mike Baldwin. Photo number two.

0:51:58.080 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 1>All right, Uh, dude, sure it says puma, but his

0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:04.719
<v Speaker 1>hair says tiger king. These are all more mullet jocks.

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Dude looks like Hull Cogan's step brother. Dude was wearing

0:52:12.640 --> 0:52:16.240
<v Speaker 1>vipers before vipers were cool. Like everyone else who wears vipers.

0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Shot at the Vipers Viper wars. You've just been just

0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:25.760
<v Speaker 1>scorned right there. Dude looks like he's strung those fish

0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:28.040
<v Speaker 1>on the dream catcher he had hanging from his truck's

0:52:28.040 --> 0:52:32.600
<v Speaker 1>rear view. Dude looks like a character they cut from

0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Wet Hot American Summer because he was too unlikable. Mike,

0:52:38.800 --> 0:52:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean any of this, man, I'm just don

0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Mike sent this in. Don't apologize. This is what happens

0:52:45.480 --> 0:52:48.920
<v Speaker 1>on awkward photos. The dream catcher was brilliant. That was

0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:51.879
<v Speaker 1>the one that was the one right there, So there

0:52:51.920 --> 0:52:53.920
<v Speaker 1>you go. We changed it up a little bit. I

0:52:53.920 --> 0:52:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I hope that was a bit more up to snuff

0:52:55.719 --> 0:52:58.719
<v Speaker 1>at hunt Fish Sleep to f seven. Um and Mike,

0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:01.040
<v Speaker 1>we can't thank you enough for sending these shots. They

0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:04.839
<v Speaker 1>are fantastic. I love the vintage stuff. Uh, we can

0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:06.760
<v Speaker 1>have a really good time with it. Such a tremendous

0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:09.359
<v Speaker 1>ape dre pockey hair whatever else the vandals called it.

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:11.160
<v Speaker 1>And hey, if you have a photo you'd like us

0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:13.479
<v Speaker 1>to consider for a roasting, you know where to send

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:19.920
<v Speaker 1>it bent at the meat eater dot com. Okay, I

0:53:19.920 --> 0:53:22.719
<v Speaker 1>still feel a little bit bad about it, because you'll

0:53:22.760 --> 0:53:25.040
<v Speaker 1>get over that as as we move along here, you'll stop.

0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:28.640
<v Speaker 1>He's got to be a good sport he sent him,

0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:32.359
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, you know that that was pretty fun. Um,

0:53:32.400 --> 0:53:35.320
<v Speaker 1>and I encourage our listeners to start adding their own

0:53:35.400 --> 0:53:39.239
<v Speaker 1>roast one liner in the comments on these photos on

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:42.160
<v Speaker 1>the good old Insta Slam. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I

0:53:42.719 --> 0:53:44.719
<v Speaker 1>could stand to be a little bit inspired, and I

0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:47.839
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't mind a little bit of inspiration from our listeners. Yeah, dude,

0:53:47.880 --> 0:53:49.720
<v Speaker 1>those were fun. They were a nice touch. I really

0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I like I like the one liners and UM encourage

0:53:53.560 --> 0:53:56.239
<v Speaker 1>this too. I also encourage you to dig deep in

0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:59.399
<v Speaker 1>the archives like Mike did. Because I love a good

0:53:59.480 --> 0:54:03.760
<v Speaker 1>vintage vintage. To me, vintage shots are always more fun

0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:06.960
<v Speaker 1>so much. Yeah, he had the hair, the puma, even

0:54:07.040 --> 0:54:11.160
<v Speaker 1>like the cheap nylon rope stringer, all classics Mike very

0:54:11.200 --> 0:54:15.680
<v Speaker 1>much appreciated. And speaking of classics, uh, I believe you're

0:54:15.840 --> 0:54:19.280
<v Speaker 1>closing us out today with one yeah, yes, yes, Sarah.

0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:21.759
<v Speaker 1>So we've spent some time in the Chile North this week,

0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:23.640
<v Speaker 1>So let's hit an end of the line that not

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:27.759
<v Speaker 1>only maintains Mike's vintage vibes, but we'll say, brings back

0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:30.680
<v Speaker 1>a little little summer vibe as we head into the

0:54:30.719 --> 0:54:41.840
<v Speaker 1>cold season. Well that's not loud enough. I've already sung

0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:44.799
<v Speaker 1>my praises for the arbor Gas Jitterbug here on end

0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:47.319
<v Speaker 1>of the line, and when I did, I noted that

0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:50.480
<v Speaker 1>while the Jitterbug is in many ways forgotten, that walking

0:54:50.600 --> 0:54:53.840
<v Speaker 1>waddling wake Baits still has a huge cult following. But

0:54:54.239 --> 0:54:57.000
<v Speaker 1>there's another member of the arbor Gas lineup that I

0:54:57.080 --> 0:54:59.920
<v Speaker 1>can't quite say the same thing about. While the company

0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:03.040
<v Speaker 1>has never stopped producing the Hula Popper, I hear even

0:55:03.280 --> 0:55:07.160
<v Speaker 1>fewer people talking about that classic than the Jitterbug, which

0:55:07.239 --> 0:55:09.440
<v Speaker 1>is a shame. So I'm going to talk about it.

0:55:10.120 --> 0:55:12.880
<v Speaker 1>In case you're unfamiliar with the hula popper, it looks

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:15.440
<v Speaker 1>much more like a frog than a baitfish. It has

0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:18.120
<v Speaker 1>sort of an hour glass shape with a fat, wide

0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:22.520
<v Speaker 1>middle and a smaller head with a large, gaping mouth. However,

0:55:22.960 --> 0:55:26.719
<v Speaker 1>unlike later poppers with deeply scooped mouths, the inside of

0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:29.800
<v Speaker 1>a hula's mouth is shallow and flat, which throws water

0:55:29.960 --> 0:55:33.520
<v Speaker 1>faster and farther, and gives the lower a slightly higher

0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:37.640
<v Speaker 1>pitch than other poppers. Large models have two troubles dangling

0:55:37.680 --> 0:55:40.960
<v Speaker 1>from the belly. Smaller models sport one trouble. But what

0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:43.960
<v Speaker 1>really makes a hula popper a hula popper is the signature,

0:55:44.040 --> 0:55:48.280
<v Speaker 1>thin rubber hula skirt hanging off the back. Arba Gast

0:55:48.360 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 1>introduced the hula popper ine, and it was that rubber

0:55:51.560 --> 0:55:55.560
<v Speaker 1>hula skirt that made it so unique. The company patented

0:55:55.600 --> 0:55:58.879
<v Speaker 1>the hula skirt in ninety eight, but not for use

0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:02.200
<v Speaker 1>on the hula popper. The hula skirt was invented for

0:56:02.320 --> 0:56:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Arbor Gast Hawaiian Wiggler, their first public offering that never

0:56:06.680 --> 0:56:10.960
<v Speaker 1>really took hold and has been long discontinued, but owner

0:56:11.040 --> 0:56:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Fred Arber Gast was the first person to figure out

0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:16.080
<v Speaker 1>that a rubber skirt could hide a hook while also

0:56:16.160 --> 0:56:18.400
<v Speaker 1>making a bit a bit more weedless, and as we

0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:21.480
<v Speaker 1>all know, while the Hawaiian Wiggler didn't last, rubber skirts

0:56:21.520 --> 0:56:24.520
<v Speaker 1>have kind of stood the test of time. But the

0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:27.400
<v Speaker 1>hula skirt on a hula popper isn't hiding any hooks.

0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:30.719
<v Speaker 1>It's there purely to add action, and honestly, the hula

0:56:30.719 --> 0:56:33.879
<v Speaker 1>popper is probably one of the least weedless top waters ever,

0:56:33.960 --> 0:56:36.279
<v Speaker 1>which I always found kind of funny because the most

0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:39.319
<v Speaker 1>iconic coola pattern is frog, which you'd probably want to

0:56:39.360 --> 0:56:42.839
<v Speaker 1>throw in some pretty sloppy stuff. I've never used any

0:56:42.880 --> 0:56:45.520
<v Speaker 1>frog pattern hulas, nor do I have much interest in

0:56:45.560 --> 0:56:49.160
<v Speaker 1>the full size double treble hula. My ringer has always

0:56:49.200 --> 0:56:51.960
<v Speaker 1>been the small one and a quarter inch hula in

0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:55.359
<v Speaker 1>all black. Between the size, shape and color and that

0:56:55.400 --> 0:56:59.400
<v Speaker 1>tail fluttering away, this particular hula model kicks ass because

0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:01.920
<v Speaker 1>it looks more like a bug than a bait fish

0:57:02.040 --> 0:57:04.640
<v Speaker 1>or frog, yet it's just heavy enough that it can

0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:08.239
<v Speaker 1>be delivered very effectively on a light spinning outfit. The

0:57:08.320 --> 0:57:11.400
<v Speaker 1>tiny black hula is the conventional angler's equivalent of the

0:57:11.400 --> 0:57:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Google bug. Or Mr Wiggly, which smallmouth fly anglers lean

0:57:15.160 --> 0:57:18.840
<v Speaker 1>on hard. I first discovered its power as a teenager

0:57:18.880 --> 0:57:21.480
<v Speaker 1>while waiting a local Smalley stream, and as I recall it,

0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the fishing kind of sucked that day, but it was

0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 1>one of those hot summer afternoons with dragonflies just kind

0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:30.840
<v Speaker 1>of zipping all over the place. I don't even remember

0:57:30.960 --> 0:57:33.600
<v Speaker 1>how that tiny black hoola ended up in my tackle kit,

0:57:33.760 --> 0:57:36.560
<v Speaker 1>but just as they often do with poper flies, a

0:57:36.680 --> 0:57:39.479
<v Speaker 1>smally sipped that thing off the surface before I ever

0:57:39.560 --> 0:57:42.840
<v Speaker 1>had a chance to twitch it. I quickly figured out

0:57:42.960 --> 0:57:46.600
<v Speaker 1>that subtlety was the key. Don't over pop a tiny hula,

0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:49.280
<v Speaker 1>just let it ride and give it the occasional nudge.

0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I've done this with tiny houlas and other colors too,

0:57:52.320 --> 0:57:56.160
<v Speaker 1>but none of them produced like that jet black, as

0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure some of you already know. While that classic

0:57:58.440 --> 0:58:01.200
<v Speaker 1>arbigas houla skirt looks cool rate in the water, it

0:58:01.240 --> 0:58:04.040
<v Speaker 1>has a tendency to get really dry and crispy if

0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:07.439
<v Speaker 1>it sits too long in a tackle box without getting splashed. Now.

0:58:07.480 --> 0:58:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I once read that a tiny schmear a vasoline on

0:58:10.760 --> 0:58:14.400
<v Speaker 1>that skirt between uses will prevent this, but like, who

0:58:14.440 --> 0:58:17.680
<v Speaker 1>who has time for that? I don't. I just use

0:58:18.040 --> 0:58:20.080
<v Speaker 1>that o G skirt that comes with it until it's

0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:22.600
<v Speaker 1>dry and brittle, and then just lash a bunch of

0:58:22.640 --> 0:58:24.600
<v Speaker 1>silly legs on the back of the tying bise and

0:58:24.680 --> 0:58:28.000
<v Speaker 1>call it good. I mean, it works just as well. Now.

0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:30.280
<v Speaker 1>If any of you kids are just too cool to

0:58:30.320 --> 0:58:32.919
<v Speaker 1>fish an old timey hula popper, arbor Gasts recently tried

0:58:32.920 --> 0:58:35.040
<v Speaker 1>to appeal to you directly with the hula poper to

0:58:35.200 --> 0:58:38.960
<v Speaker 1>point out it comes in mod funky colors like black Death,

0:58:39.120 --> 0:58:42.800
<v Speaker 1>blue Kill, coach Hog, and white Zombie. Instead of a

0:58:42.880 --> 0:58:45.880
<v Speaker 1>rubber hula skirt. There are flashy feathers on that tail,

0:58:46.120 --> 0:58:48.960
<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to like them, I really did, But

0:58:49.000 --> 0:58:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I still like my plain black classic mini hoola better,

0:58:51.760 --> 0:58:55.000
<v Speaker 1>which by the way, is light enough to cast on

0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:57.120
<v Speaker 1>a seven or eight weight fly rod if you're feeling

0:58:57.400 --> 0:59:08.560
<v Speaker 1>extra dirty. Ah, Bula poppers are classic, but often like

0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:10.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of kind of viewed as a little bit of

0:59:10.360 --> 0:59:12.120
<v Speaker 1>an odd ball. I remember, like I was going to

0:59:12.280 --> 0:59:13.960
<v Speaker 1>uh I was going to summer camp when I was

0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:17.160
<v Speaker 1>a kid, and I was packing up a little tackle

0:59:17.200 --> 0:59:21.840
<v Speaker 1>box and ship, and I had, of course, you know,

0:59:21.880 --> 0:59:24.440
<v Speaker 1>you always pre string your rod with like that first

0:59:24.480 --> 0:59:26.160
<v Speaker 1>lure that you're gonna throw when you're a kid, you know,

0:59:26.200 --> 0:59:27.840
<v Speaker 1>you never you never get there and wait to see

0:59:27.880 --> 0:59:30.560
<v Speaker 1>how it is You still do that now? Yeah? Yeah,

0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Well I picked a hula popper and my dad looks

0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:35.600
<v Speaker 1>at me, goes, what are you trying to start off

0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:38.880
<v Speaker 1>with the weirdest thing you could think of? Ah? Yeah,

0:59:38.920 --> 0:59:44.960
<v Speaker 1>but come on, that's that's wrong though, I remember. I remember. That's,

0:59:46.080 --> 0:59:47.960
<v Speaker 1>to be honest with you, that's when I first started,

0:59:48.600 --> 0:59:51.720
<v Speaker 1>uh maybe not thinking that everything my dad said about fishing.

0:59:51.800 --> 0:59:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Was absolutely gonna say, your dad is the problem here,

0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:57.280
<v Speaker 1>not the hula popper. Your dad is the one preaching.

0:59:57.800 --> 1:00:01.040
<v Speaker 1>He's stopping the children of today throwing the whole of

1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:04.960
<v Speaker 1>poppers with that attitude, I highly recommend the hold of popper.

1:00:05.040 --> 1:00:06.240
<v Speaker 1>That's why I did a whole end of the line

1:00:06.240 --> 1:00:09.320
<v Speaker 1>on it. Anyway, So look that's it for this week.

1:00:09.640 --> 1:00:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, Canada, it was good figuratively hanging with

1:00:12.600 --> 1:00:15.080
<v Speaker 1>you again. And if you're planning to literally hang out

1:00:15.080 --> 1:00:19.840
<v Speaker 1>in Canada, remember a negative rapid anagen COVID test is

1:00:19.880 --> 1:00:22.400
<v Speaker 1>not acceptable at the border. You either have to get

1:00:22.400 --> 1:00:25.080
<v Speaker 1>the Q tip jammed up your snooter, or you can

1:00:25.120 --> 1:00:27.200
<v Speaker 1>keep ice fishing on the same pressured park pond in

1:00:27.240 --> 1:00:30.000
<v Speaker 1>your neighborhood down here in the States. I do them

1:00:30.040 --> 1:00:32.400
<v Speaker 1>two swabs up my nose and touch my brain to

1:00:32.400 --> 1:00:35.800
<v Speaker 1>get up to Canada to ice fish this winner, don't forget.

1:00:36.200 --> 1:00:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Check out episode one of the Canadian Angle on meat

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<v Speaker 1>Eator's YouTube channel, and while you're playing around on your phone,

1:00:42.600 --> 1:00:46.280
<v Speaker 1>send a bar, nominations, sale bin item, voice memo, awkward photo,

1:00:46.600 --> 1:00:48.840
<v Speaker 1>or anything else you think we might be able to

1:00:48.920 --> 1:00:51.560
<v Speaker 1>use on the show to Bent at the meat eator

1:00:51.680 --> 1:00:55.000
<v Speaker 1>dot com. Also keeping up with those bent podcasts in

1:00:55.040 --> 1:00:58.160
<v Speaker 1>the generat Angler hashtags there but we love seeing them there.

1:00:58.240 --> 1:01:00.880
<v Speaker 1>But so, maybe you stag a carp with your hold

1:01:00.880 --> 1:01:03.000
<v Speaker 1>of paper take a little photo for us there. But

1:01:03.440 --> 1:01:05.919
<v Speaker 1>so you just have a great old day there. Oh yeah,

1:01:06.040 --> 1:01:32.200
<v Speaker 1>thank you, buddy,