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Speaker 1: them all over my guide jack room. Good morning to

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Speaker 1: once got pulled over by a mounte for blasting closer

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Speaker 1: Hayden Samac And do I detect a hint of Oh Canada?

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Speaker 1: Why else? Why else would you bother referencing Rush if

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Speaker 1: Getty Lee. Who's Getty Lee? Getty Lee? Best base player ever? Cood? No,

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Speaker 1: So Phil, we're sorry. I won't even ask about Rice

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Speaker 1: mean we are, but only to contextualize some like good news.

420
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Speaker 1: So did that end? Here's the little ray of hope

421
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Speaker 1: for one of the great wonders of the natural world.

422
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Speaker 1: This comes to us from the Washington Post. This week,

423
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Speaker 1: scientists observed a massive coral spawn on the Great Barrier Reef.

424
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Speaker 1: That's it. Uh, that's not really there's not really like

425
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: a bunch to the story. It's just kind of something

426
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 1: that happened. It's a fact. So you may be asking,

427
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: why bring this up? This is a weak ass story, Hayden,

428
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: where you rushed and had a bunch of other ship

429
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: on your plate. First of all, yes, that's exactly what happened. Secondly, Uh,

430
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: this story does have some legitimate meat on the bone,

431
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: but we have to look beyond the actual event and

432
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 1: talk more about the implications of this event. Um, everybody

433
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 1: knows the coral reefs are in trouble. How much trouble

434
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Speaker 1: do you ask? A study conducted by the Global Coral

435
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Speaker 1: Reef Monitoring Network published in October of this year, concluded

436
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Speaker 1: that between two thousand nine and two thousand and eighteen,

437
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Speaker 1: climate change is killed four of the world's coral reefs. Yeah,

438
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,959
Speaker 1: it's a big deal and it's everywhere. It's all it's

439
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: it affects like all coral reefs everywhere. Yeah, for a

440
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Speaker 1: lot of folks, we hear warm and a eate it

441
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: with bad And that's where our understanding of the issue

442
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: between coral and climate change ends. Because information is power,

443
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Speaker 1: I want to offer you an explanation of what actually

444
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: goes down and exactly why the warming is bad even

445
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: for these tropical reefs. Uh, just what because information? Because

446
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 1: information is power. That's like a PS. That's like a

447
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Speaker 1: g I Joe p s a for bent whatever Joe.

448
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Speaker 1: When we when we think of coral, we typically think

449
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: of shades of like pink, orange, blue, green, etcetera, etcetera. Well,

450
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Speaker 1: that coloration is largely due to the algae that covers

451
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Speaker 1: the coral itself. Coral has a symbiotic relationship with algae.

452
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Speaker 1: The coral provides it with a home, and in turn,

453
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Speaker 1: the alergae feeds it. When coral becomes stressed due to

454
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Speaker 1: outside pressures, including but not limited to a warming environment,

455
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Speaker 1: the coral expels that algae. This is called coral bleaching. Basically,

456
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Speaker 1: as a result of the vacated algae, the coral turns white. Unfortunately,

457
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: this lack of algae now not only means the coral

458
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: is is white is joe summertime farmer's tan, It also

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Speaker 1: means that the coral now has nothing to eat, which

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00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: caused it to starve and die. Yeah, So that those

461
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 1: are like the images that they try and tug at

462
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Speaker 1: the heartstrings with where it just looks like a wasteland

463
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: of like dried bones where coral reef used. Yeah. Yeah,

464
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Speaker 1: it's serious, and lately it's been occurring it as scale

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Speaker 1: much larger than has ever been seen before, including mass bleachings.

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Speaker 1: In fact, the first mass bleaching event ever observed killed

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Speaker 1: eight percent of the world's coral reefs in a single year.

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Speaker 1: I think the second mass bleaching event that year was

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Speaker 1: my hair, but that's a different We will now for

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Speaker 1: some good news. It has been observed that coral reefs

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Speaker 1: can indeed recover from a bleaching event. In smaller bleaching

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Speaker 1: events when the root cause has been controlled and conservation

473
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Speaker 1: practices implemented, there's been a significant recovery within those coral reefs.

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Speaker 1: Here's the good news. This is what they're hoping can

475
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Speaker 1: happen here, and the fact that the coral is still

476
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Speaker 1: spawning points to reproductive potential even under pressure. So really,

477
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Speaker 1: this story highlights one big important point. We can do

478
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Speaker 1: something about a problem even when it's gotten, you know,

479
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: cross the line into a dire situation. Things are never

480
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Speaker 1: really too far gone to at least recover a meaningful

481
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Speaker 1: portion of And just because the situation is dire doesn't

482
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Speaker 1: mean that it has to end in certain doom. Yeah. Man,

483
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Speaker 1: I mean we've we've covered stories here before about like

484
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Speaker 1: there's other organizations that are trying to move and replant coral. Um.

485
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Speaker 1: But I you're making a good point here, and you

486
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Speaker 1: can apply this to a lot of different conservation stories. Um.

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00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: We often feel the need to be like, well, it's

488
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: it's all screwed and it's never coming back. Um. But

489
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: it's the wrong attitude and you sort of have to

490
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: start somewhere and and sort of find the good in

491
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 1: all of these problems. Um. So I mean, dude, that's

492
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: that's good news for the entire environment. Plus all the fish.

493
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: If all those dead zones that that you see, all

494
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: those bleaching um you know videos, it's just it's horrible. Um.

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00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: If that has the potential to come back, then that's

496
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: good for everybody, even if it is on a small portion. Yeah. Yeah,

497
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: And we can really look to other conservation success stories

498
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Speaker 1: to give us hope here. You know, one that comes

499
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: to mind is, you know the wild turkey population in

500
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Speaker 1: the early twentieth century. I mean they were like something

501
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: like thirty thousand wild turkeys left in America and now

502
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: and if if you have eyes. You see turkeys. Yeah,

503
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: I mean I see turkeys and I'm not even looking

504
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: for him. I almost hit turkeys with my car. And

505
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: when when it comes to like the wall A specifically,

506
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: I mean, we're doing all sorts of interesting things. Um.

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00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: There there's been a legitimate recovery of coral reefs in

508
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Speaker 1: the time of COVID when tourism has slowed down, Like

509
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: that's like a big part like the problem. Um you

510
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: also see art the success of artificial reefs. So there

511
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: is a lot of potential for good. And you know,

512
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: don't listen to a news story that's just totally you know,

513
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: forecasting doom and gloom and irreversible, forever forever damage and

514
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: just resign yourself to it. You know, there is always

515
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Speaker 1: something that can be done in the name of conservation

516
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: to either protect what we have or hopefully, is is

517
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Speaker 1: the case with this, you know, eventually restore to its

518
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: to its original luster. Yeah, man, no, this is great.

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00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: I I The only thing I think is funny is

520
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: it's sort of it's like all news these days. It's

521
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: also just depends on who you talk to, you know

522
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like it's kind of like, um, yeah,

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00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: I had to say. It's kind of like with COVID,

524
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: like you read the headlines. One day it's like we're fine,

525
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: and the next day like in the same we're all done. Yeah, whatever,

526
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: good news is always more uplifting. Um. And I guess

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00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: there are some people who would say that, um, there's

528
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: some success in the recovery of sharks. Sharks have a

529
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: lot of problems, and that's gonna that's gonna tie you

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00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: into my story here. But I just I don't want

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Speaker 1: I want to start this by saying very quickly and

532
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm surprised in your hasty went Carl Reef verse grabbing

533
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: this Because yes, we know that a new state record

534
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: muskie has been caught in Minnesota, which is kind of

535
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: a big deal, seeing that the state record has stood

536
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: for sixty four years, kind of a big deal. I'd

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00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: like to congratulate angler Nolan Sprinkler on that catch, which

538
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: weighed fifty five pounds fourteen point eight ounces. But if

539
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm being totally honest, the story surrounding it isn't all

540
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: that compelling to me, right, Like, like he went muskie

541
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: fishing on Lake Malax, plus pounder happened to eat his lore.

542
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: That's kind of a gist, right, it's awesome, but instead

543
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: I chose a complete sleeper of a story buried in

544
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Speaker 1: the news feed, mostly because it allows me to make

545
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: fun of people and I think we'll have a better conversation.

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Speaker 1: So um, here we go. This comes from the website

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Speaker 1: Eureka alert dot com headline Jaws of Defeat Angler's emotions.

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00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: I love a good fun. Yeah, I know, I know,

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00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: we all know. Uh, jaws of defeat angler's emotions towards

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00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: shark depredation is key to conservation. Now, by depredation, what

551
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: they're talking about, what this entire story is centered around,

552
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: is a shark attacking a fish that you are reeling in.

553
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: I just want to be clear on that. So here's

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00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: the lead directly from the story. In a broad scale

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00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: study recently published in Fisheries Research, researchers from the University

556
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: of Massachusetts Amherst quantified the emotional and behavioral responses to

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Speaker 1: shark depredation in recreational fisheries. Are saying that people don't

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00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: like it when sharks like munch their forty pound yellow fin.

559
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, but that's kind

560
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: of what I'm saying The study found that anglers and

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00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: especially recreational fishing guides experienced depredation were more likely to

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00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: have a negative response towards sharks, and we're thus more

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00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: likely to target sharks for additional harvesting. So well, but yeah,

564
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's debatable, right, we'll get there. So

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00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: the article suggests that um depredation is an ever increasing

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00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: problem for two reasons. One um is that long standing

567
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: shark conservation efforts are allowing shark populations in certain regions

568
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,479
Speaker 1: to bounce back, so there are more sharks. The second

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00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: is that the number of recreational salt water anglers is

570
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: growing year over year, so more struggling fish onlines for

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00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: sharks to eat. I would agree with both of those things,

572
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: absolutely no argument there. Um. I've heard from several bodies

573
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: in Florida in particular, that it does team like there

574
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: are more sharks than ever, and we do know it's

575
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: getting more crowded on the water. So you did you

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00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: happen to see that video with the zombie shark? No,

577
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: what's the zombie shark? I half almost picked it up.

578
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: It's just a video somebody took. They they were reeling

579
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: and it looked like a reef shark and it got

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00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: attacked by I think a bull shark. And I mean

581
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: like half this thing's body is missing and still swimming

582
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: around like trying to get off the line, but also

583
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: trying to snag like other fish in the chumps lag.

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00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: I don't disbelieve that. Man, they don't have large brains,

585
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: and sometimes it takes a while for them to fade

586
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: in moments of trauma. And it's actually anyway Gray's. Castleberry,

587
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: lead author of the study, believes that this rampant depredation

588
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: is quote helping to drive the perception that sharks are

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00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 1: a threat, which in turn could lead to retaliatory actions

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00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: that could lead to over harvesting of sharks. So for

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00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: this study, Castleberry and her team sent a survey to

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00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: loads of recreational saltwater anglers and guides across North America.

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00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: Five and forty one of them responded. Survey questions included

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Speaker 1: which kinds of fish were most often depredated and uh,

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00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: in a nutshell, how did you feel when the mean

596
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: shark took the yellow tail snapper off your line? Not good? So,

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00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: according to the findings, over of respondents noted that they

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00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: had had a fish taken by a shark at least

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Speaker 1: once in the last five years. Of that group, well

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Speaker 1: over half had seen more than twenty depredation events in

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Speaker 1: the same time period and had actually seen the shark

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00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: take their catch. Furthermore, the study found that while the

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00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: anglers were more likely than guides to feel a sense

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00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: of all or even excitement when witnessing shark depredation, guides,

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00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: who tend to experience depredation more frequently were far more

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00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: likely to feel anger, distress, and sadness. Perhaps even importantly,

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00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: the surveyed guides were overwhelmingly more likely to respond to

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00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: depredation by harvesting sharks in the hopes of reducing their

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00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: numbers and so protecting the fish stocks they target. Now,

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00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: obviously I have no idea who these surveyed guides were

611
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: or where they fish, though I bet most of them

612
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: are Southern. But something about those yeah, yeah, but something

613
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: about those reactions doesn't add up to me, right in

614
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: my opinion, it would be more likely to be the

615
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: other way around, and I've witnessed it the other way

616
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 1: around countless times. If we're saying part of the problems

617
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: that there are so many new anglers on the water.

618
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: I would think it's the new beat that gets his

619
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: or her first tarpet or grouper or kingmac chomped off

620
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: the line. That would be more sad. And I've seen

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00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: that happen. I just years ago on a bone fish

622
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: trip um and it was tough, like tough fishing, bad weather,

623
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Speaker 1: and I was with the dude that had never done

624
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: this before, and he hooked one monster fish on the

625
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: last day, shark took it and he was devastated. Now, Conversely,

626
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: every time I've been out in the Gulf or Florida

627
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: with a season captain, it's been around and someone gets sharked,

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00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: they don't freak out about it, you know why, because

629
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: getting it's just it's just part of the game. Getting

630
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: sharks is just part of the game. There's a name

631
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: for it in saltwater fishing. It's called paying the tax man.

632
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta pay the tax man. That's just how

633
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: it goes. And while it's a bummer, I don't know, like,

634
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: you don't get all whiny about it. It's just part

635
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: of the gig, right, Yeah, yeah, I mean I'd be

636
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: inclined to think that, like a lot of these folks

637
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: who were getting who are surveyed and getting excited about

638
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: seeing like the depredation event. I would think that maybe

639
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: a lot of them were like charter casuals, you know,

640
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: like they don't get they just don't. Yeah, they take

641
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: a video and they're like, oh, I'm gonna send it

642
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: to all my friends. You know. I I kind of

643
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: think the same thing. Um. I'm more surprised, you know,

644
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: because I don't fully understand these captains responding that getting

645
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: sharked will make them kill more sharks. Now, it's one

646
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: thing to say it will, Like I've heard captain say oman,

647
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: I'd love to kill every one of these best and

648
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: sharks on this reef. But I've never known one or

649
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: met one that, like, on a day off, makes the

650
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 1: effort to go out to the grouper grounds and harvest

651
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: as many sharks as legally possible in an effort to

652
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: reduce their numbers. I'm not saying that never happens, um,

653
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying there aren't people out there who

654
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: do illegal cowboy shit. But I find the notion slightly

655
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: silly because it's, you know, it's it's the ocean, like

656
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: these fish roams, so you kill some, they will replenish

657
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: um in cases where like every other fish is getting sharked.

658
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: I've seen captain's move to try and get away from them.

659
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: But I can't help but interpret the whole study as

660
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: as sort of cloaked in like new school whin nous,

661
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: Like I flew all the way to the keys to

662
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: catch my first amberjack on my new slow pitched chicken rod,

663
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: and the shark bet them in half, and that's not fair.

664
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: You know, sharks shouldn't be allowed to do that. Like

665
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: That's how I'm interpreting a lot of people who responded

666
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: to this. Um, I don't know. I think it's a

667
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: bit of a fruitless study in my opinion. You're worried

668
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: about over harvesting sharks, like you know, there's there's tens

669
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: of thousands that are illegally finned at sea and dumped

670
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: by commercial operations the world over. Um, you know, recreational

671
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: anguage that might be but heard about having dinner taken

672
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: off the line, Like come on, So I I just

673
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: I just found this strange and interesting. Yeah, it seems

674
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: like a like a weird it's just a weird demographic

675
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: to survey about these. To your point, I've never seen

676
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: somebody who's been like that shark took my like, you know,

677
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: my yellow fin. I'm gonna go get that shark. My

678
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: dad does a he lives down in Turks and he

679
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: does Yeah. Yeah, he does a ton a ton a

680
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: ton a ton of plagic fishing, and he has sharks

681
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: ripped tuna from him all the damn time, constantly, And

682
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: in fact, they're talking about how they haven't seen that

683
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: many sharks. Ever, I would venture to say, like most

684
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: of the really big tuna that like he's having, not

685
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: like you know, he's like having like an extended fight

686
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: with end up getting bitten half by a shark. Yeah,

687
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm not suggesting that there's no merit to

688
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: this happening more often, right, Like I said, I've heard

689
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: that from from several people. I just don't understand, like

690
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: what the what There's there's nothing in the article about like, well,

691
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: what's the end result here? Okay, So we find out

692
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: that most people hate sharks when they take their fish

693
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: off the line, But how that translated into some kind

694
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: of of of action, I don't know, Like there's more sharks,

695
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: so it's gonna happen more like you wanna you want

696
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: to play the game. You gotta pay the taxman now

697
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: and again, maybe you gotta pay him more than you

698
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: used to. But like, what what do we do about that?

699
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: It's you know, I understand, man, and I can understand

700
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: like the sentiment to like, you know, if I shoot

701
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: like a deer or something and it gets eaten up

702
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: by coyotes, Yeah, I'm gonna spend a little bit of

703
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: time predator hunting. But I feel like that's a lot

704
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,959
Speaker 1: differ and then being like they took my wah, who

705
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to become a shark fisherman allah, like Captain Quinn,

706
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, And I mean, you know, even if

707
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: you had some guys that were so upset that they've

708
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: had that mentality of I'm gonna go out to a

709
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: reef and like, whack a bunch of sharks, I don't know, man.

710
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: The captains I know who live in extremely sharky territory, uh,

711
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: you know, Florida and Carolina is in the Gulf, most

712
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: of them don't want anything to do with sharks unless

713
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: they have clients that specifically asked to be taken out

714
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: to catch sharks. You know what I'm saying. Um, So

715
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: I I have no idea what the limits are. It's

716
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 1: it's very That's the other thing too, It's all over

717
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: the place with what you can and cannot keep, you

718
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like like to use black tips

719
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: as an example. I'm pretty sure there's a season or

720
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: maybe year round like, but I think it's one per

721
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: boat and that's legally all you could take in Florida.

722
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,479
Speaker 1: And Florida people if I'm wrong, But I'm just trying

723
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: to make a point here that in most there's not

724
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: many instances where you can legally just go out and

725
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: and be like, I'm I will kill as many as

726
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: I hook today to get him off this reef. That's

727
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: kind of impractical, you know, you eat shark, ever I do.

728
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been a long time, um, and Lord

729
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: knows that that things have changed in that arena. And

730
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying that's a bad thing. But I

731
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: did a lot of mako fishing back in the day

732
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: and and thresher and um, you can hate me for that,

733
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: you know, I don't really do it much anymore, and

734
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: the rules have changed. But I'm also not going to

735
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: sit here and say that mako and thresher shark aren't

736
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: like mouth wateringly freaking delicious. Man. I mean, I'd pick

737
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: I picked either of those against swordfish any day. I mean,

738
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: it's good. It was common for years growing up all

739
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: the sea here restaurants at the Jersey Shore, you could

740
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: get a mako steak like that was that was nothing,

741
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: you know. I remember I remember going into a market

742
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: when I was a kid and seeing like a mako shark,

743
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: you know, mako shark steaks behind the counter, and being like,

744
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: I gotta go eat that, man. You know, yeah, I

745
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: mean it really it is fantastic. But at the same time,

746
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: I you have to recognize with makos in particular, there's

747
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: something else in the news about trying to get the

748
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: entire world to agree not to target them commercially anymore. Um,

749
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: people do not catch them here the way they did

750
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, and even before that, it

751
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 1: was like, you know, it was in the sixties and seventies,

752
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: it was like all the makoes you wanted. It was

753
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: good when I was younger. Lately, you know, it's it's

754
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: not that easy to go out there and do that anymore. So, UM, certainly,

755
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: certain unless unless you're like a charter fishing like X

756
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: frat boy, not you know, letting his fly hangover and

757
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: catching seven pounders. Yeah, you know it's hard for me

758
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: to come down. I mean, smooth move reference. I know,

759
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: I know that. But like I I'm not gonna lie. Man.

760
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: If somebody invited me out on a mako trip and

761
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: we called a keeper. I do that so infrequently, you know,

762
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: I'm not a charter captain that's out there shark fishing

763
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: week over week in season. Yeah, I don't know, man,

764
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 1: Like I don't know how terrible I would feel about

765
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: keeping a legal one because I'm not going to do

766
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: that ten times a year. You know it's probably been

767
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: I don't think you should feel bad about that. If

768
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: I see a thresher in the bunker when I'm striper fishing, like,

769
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to trying to catch that. It's all

770
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: delicious anyway. Um That's what I got. So people stop

771
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: being sad about the sharks or just I don't maybe

772
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: try not saltwater fishing in Florida because it's gonna happen eventually. Uh, Phil, coral,

773
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: reefs or sharks, which one takes your fancy? This coral instantly?

774
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 1: I also believe Phil looks good in the color coral.

775
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I think Phil looks good

776
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 1: no matter what he wears, So we will we will

777
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: hear from Phil and then, um man, we're gonna crank

778
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: the metal and rock the mullet for pretty good awkward

779
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: moments in Joe and Sharks. Sharks and Joe's tailor as

780
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: old as time and it's still never it's old Joe.

781
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: You're the winner this week. Hayden. Maybe you shouldn't have

782
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: rushed and put some more time into your story, but listen, man,

783
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I had to choose because I don't want

784
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: you to feel embarrassed. But if you do, you could

785
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: always And Hayden, I'll let you go with just a

786
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: little bit of advice that my grandfather told me the

787
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: night before he died. He sat me down next to

788
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: his bedside, told me to lean in closer and whispered

789
00:43:35,600 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: in my ear Phil, M I miss him so much.

790
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: Why did you take a picture a life block? We

791
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: got called out recently, Yes we did. On Instagram. Listener

792
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: at hunt Fish Sleep seven suggested that lately we have

793
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: not been adequately roasting our awkward moments victims, like we

794
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: haven't been harsh enough for something hunt sleep Fish seven

795
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: looks like a real estate agent for vampires. Boom roasted

796
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: huntling Fish. I didn't know that was coming. Anyway, I'm

797
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: going to disagree with with him slightly because, in fairness,

798
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: not long ago, I told a poor young fly angler

799
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: his favorite fishing shirt looked like the wall paper from

800
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: a circuit nineteen seventy two pornos set. But okay, man, okay,

801
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: we'll will try well, we'll try and dial it up

802
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: a bit, and this week we have it's a it's

803
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: an inadvertent two fur Okay. So listener Mike Baldwin sent

804
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: a photo and I said, yep, yes, I will take that,

805
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: and then he immediately sent another one he followed up

806
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: and I was like, and I'll be taking that one too, thanks.

807
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: So we got a double feature here from Mike. So

808
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: let's start with the first shot. We'll get right into

809
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: it here. Now, this was taken in vintage. Right now,

810
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: Mike is holding a bow fin down at waist level,

811
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: and that's big brownie points right there, right because he

812
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: may have been the only guy taking photos with bow

813
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: fin because that hadn't gotten cool yet. Right, it's cool

814
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: now with the frogs and stuff, but not back then.

815
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, two thinks I can't

816
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: believe that photos from and also I was gonna get seven.

817
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: It also appears that that both in, which is it

818
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: looks like a pretty respectable both fish. It's it's not

819
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: small nuts good fish. It appears that that both in

820
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: is on a stringer, which makes me wonder if Mike

821
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: ate the bothin, because eating both isn't something I don't

822
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: think you'see super often. No, No, they're like they're not

823
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: that popular for food fishing. You're right, there does appear

824
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: to be an old school like nylon rope stringer in

825
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: its mouth. I'm not sure if he ate it. Um,

826
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: but I am sure of is that nobody else has

827
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: ever gone both in fishing in the super tight, screaming

828
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: red nuth ugger pants that Mike is wearing in photo

829
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: number one. Now that now look, this photo is cut off.

830
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: It's cut off mid thigh on Mike, So they could

831
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: be sweats, they could be short. Yeah, but at first glance,

832
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: like when you just look at it, it's like ship,

833
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: where have I seen those pants before? Oh? Yeah, and

834
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: the beat It video. This is like this kind of

835
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: reminds me like a like an uncle ted like Ted

836
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: Nugent outfit. Yes, yes, maybe, but like definitely like the pants.

837
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so the shirt. So Mike is wearing a

838
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: faded early nineties style, like what i'd call like a

839
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: bum equipment style sweatshirt. Now those, of course they've they've

840
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: become fashionable once again. But this one appears to have

841
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: been purchased in the Chicago theater district. It just says Chicago,

842
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 1: and there's a clip art style graphic of a saxophone

843
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: and the laughing and crying masks that are like the

844
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: universal symbol for theater. They probably have a real name

845
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: or something, but I don't I don't know what that is. Yeah,

846
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: I honestly have no idea either. But forget all that.

847
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: Can we please get to you know what I want

848
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: to talk about? Man? Yeah, you're gonna talk about the hair. An,

849
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: let's let's talk about the hair, do it? Uh? So

850
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: Mike is uh I'll tell you what, man, it is

851
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: a hell a hell of a blond mullet. It's special.

852
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: It's special. It's parted straight down the middle, it's flowing

853
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: shoulder locks for days, not like he seems to be

854
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: a pretty tall guy. I our guess this dude is,

855
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, but the mullet actually makes him significantly taller. Yes,

856
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: While I'm sure it's just the way that his hair

857
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 1: might have fallen that day, the best way I could

858
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: describe it to, you know, someone who hasn't gone to

859
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: Joe's Instagram and seeing this picture, Um, it's imagine a

860
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: bald man with flowing locks. And I'm gonna we'll get

861
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: to this in the roast too, but flowing locks around

862
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: the sides. And then he just plopped a two page

863
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: just right on the top of his head and didn't

864
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: press it down. He just he threw it up in

865
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: there and caught it, you know. Yeah. See, I think

866
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: I think it's just like Moost Quaft or Permit maybe.

867
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: But it looks, Yeah, it looks very strange. So here's

868
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,919
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do to spice up awkward moments. Hayden

869
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: just mentioned a roast right now. Hayden has examined the

870
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: photo and come up with a series of actual roast

871
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: style shots based on it, and I don't know what

872
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: they are, right, So we're gonna say, let's see how

873
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: many land phil phil can we get, Like I don't know,

874
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: like some crackling fire or something, So go ahead. Photo

875
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: number one of Mike Baldwin. Uh sorry, in advance, Mike,

876
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: you asked for this. Dude small. It looks like it's

877
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: trying to get away from his head. Brian eno saw

878
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: this picture and decided it was time to cut his hair.

879
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 1: That was not gonna land with a ton of people,

880
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: but the ones that just got that got it real good.

881
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: Dude looks like he thinks Brian Bosworth is still going

882
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: to turn it around. Dude looks like the medicine man

883
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: and Dances with Wolves bleach his hair and got into

884
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: prog rocky. Dude looks like an undercover cop trying to

885
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: bust a hockey t. He said, it is that all

886
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 1: you got? That's all I got for that one. I'm

887
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: gonna give it to the Dances with Wolves. It's not

888
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: easy to work at Dances with wolves reference in Man.

889
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: That was great. Okay, so then we have Now we

890
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: have a second shot of Mike. I mean the first

891
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: shot he looks kind of tall and skinny and like,

892
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: you know, the ensemble could make him We'll say, like

893
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: the keyboard player in Minute Work or something like that.

894
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: Right now, by contrast, in photo too, Mike is squarely

895
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: the roadie for Ministry or Dokin or something. It's quite

896
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: a transformation. Same bullet, which looks a little bit more

897
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: like it looks less. I don't know planned this time.

898
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: It's like the moment, it's natural state, right, just uh,

899
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: all of a sudden though, Mike's looking buff, dude, Yeah, yeah,

900
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 1: he's jacked all of a sudden, right, And now he's

901
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: he's wearing like navy Dickies pants, a vintage Puma T

902
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: shirt with the sleeves cut off, and he's got a

903
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 1: pair of pit viper shades hanging around his neck. Now

904
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: this reminds me a bit of um, you know that,

905
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: like that that classic old shot of Schwarzenegger, like holding

906
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: a tiny girl in a bikini cradling her. Right, because

907
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: Mike is holding up a chain stringer, stretching it out

908
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: in front of him between both arms, and it has

909
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: to weigh like fifty pounds. Yeah yeah, the dude. I

910
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: tried to count, and I'm putting like the combined number

911
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: of like Perch and Bluegill and Croppy on that stringer.

912
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: It has to be close. It's got easily easily, which

913
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: based on this hall. Now, I'm kind of thinking he

914
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: probably ate the bowfin. I think I think Mike likes

915
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 1: to eat fish. So um, there's a setup there. That's

916
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: what photo too looks like. Do your thing, man, give me,

917
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: give me the roast of Mike Baldwin. Photo number two.

918
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, dude, sure it says puma, but his

919
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: hair says tiger king. These are all more mullet jocks.

920
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: Dude looks like Hull Cogan's step brother. Dude was wearing

921
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 1: vipers before vipers were cool. Like everyone else who wears vipers.

922
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: Shot at the Vipers Viper wars. You've just been just

923
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 1: scorned right there. Dude looks like he's strung those fish

924
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: on the dream catcher he had hanging from his truck's

925
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: rear view. Dude looks like a character they cut from

926
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: Wet Hot American Summer because he was too unlikable. Mike,

927
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: I don't mean any of this, man, I'm just don

928
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: Mike sent this in. Don't apologize. This is what happens

929
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: on awkward photos. The dream catcher was brilliant. That was

930
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: the one that was the one right there, So there

931
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: you go. We changed it up a little bit. I

932
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: I hope that was a bit more up to snuff

933
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: at hunt Fish Sleep to f seven. Um and Mike,

934
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: we can't thank you enough for sending these shots. They

935
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 1: are fantastic. I love the vintage stuff. Uh, we can

936
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 1: have a really good time with it. Such a tremendous

937
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: ape dre pockey hair whatever else the vandals called it.

938
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: And hey, if you have a photo you'd like us

939
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,479
Speaker 1: to consider for a roasting, you know where to send

940
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: it bent at the meat eater dot com. Okay, I

941
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: still feel a little bit bad about it, because you'll

942
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: get over that as as we move along here, you'll stop.

943
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: He's got to be a good sport he sent him,

944
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, you know that that was pretty fun. Um,

945
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: and I encourage our listeners to start adding their own

946
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: roast one liner in the comments on these photos on

947
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: the good old Insta Slam. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I

948
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: could stand to be a little bit inspired, and I

949
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind a little bit of inspiration from our listeners. Yeah, dude,

950
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,720
Speaker 1: those were fun. They were a nice touch. I really

951
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: I like I like the one liners and UM encourage

952
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: this too. I also encourage you to dig deep in

953
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: the archives like Mike did. Because I love a good

954
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 1: vintage vintage. To me, vintage shots are always more fun

955
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, he had the hair, the puma, even

956
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: like the cheap nylon rope stringer, all classics Mike very

957
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: much appreciated. And speaking of classics, uh, I believe you're

958
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 1: closing us out today with one yeah, yes, yes, Sarah.

959
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: So we've spent some time in the Chile North this week,

960
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: So let's hit an end of the line that not

961
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: only maintains Mike's vintage vibes, but we'll say, brings back

962
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: a little little summer vibe as we head into the

963
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: cold season. Well that's not loud enough. I've already sung

964
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: my praises for the arbor Gas Jitterbug here on end

965
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: of the line, and when I did, I noted that

966
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: while the Jitterbug is in many ways forgotten, that walking

967
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: waddling wake Baits still has a huge cult following. But

968
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: there's another member of the arbor Gas lineup that I

969
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: can't quite say the same thing about. While the company

970
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: has never stopped producing the Hula Popper, I hear even

971
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: fewer people talking about that classic than the Jitterbug, which

972
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: is a shame. So I'm going to talk about it.

973
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: In case you're unfamiliar with the hula popper, it looks

974
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: much more like a frog than a baitfish. It has

975
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: sort of an hour glass shape with a fat, wide

976
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: middle and a smaller head with a large, gaping mouth. However,

977
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: unlike later poppers with deeply scooped mouths, the inside of

978
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 1: a hula's mouth is shallow and flat, which throws water

979
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: faster and farther, and gives the lower a slightly higher

980
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: pitch than other poppers. Large models have two troubles dangling

981
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: from the belly. Smaller models sport one trouble. But what

982
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: really makes a hula popper a hula popper is the signature,

983
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 1: thin rubber hula skirt hanging off the back. Arba Gast

984
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: introduced the hula popper ine, and it was that rubber

985
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: hula skirt that made it so unique. The company patented

986
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 1: the hula skirt in ninety eight, but not for use

987
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: on the hula popper. The hula skirt was invented for

988
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: Arbor Gast Hawaiian Wiggler, their first public offering that never

989
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: really took hold and has been long discontinued, but owner

990
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: Fred Arber Gast was the first person to figure out

991
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: that a rubber skirt could hide a hook while also

992
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: making a bit a bit more weedless, and as we

993
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: all know, while the Hawaiian Wiggler didn't last, rubber skirts

994
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: have kind of stood the test of time. But the

995
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: hula skirt on a hula popper isn't hiding any hooks.

996
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: It's there purely to add action, and honestly, the hula

997
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: popper is probably one of the least weedless top waters ever,

998
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: which I always found kind of funny because the most

999
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: iconic coola pattern is frog, which you'd probably want to

1000
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 1: throw in some pretty sloppy stuff. I've never used any

1001
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: frog pattern hulas, nor do I have much interest in

1002
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: the full size double treble hula. My ringer has always

1003
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: been the small one and a quarter inch hula in

1004
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 1: all black. Between the size, shape and color and that

1005
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: tail fluttering away, this particular hula model kicks ass because

1006
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: it looks more like a bug than a bait fish

1007
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: or frog, yet it's just heavy enough that it can

1008
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: be delivered very effectively on a light spinning outfit. The

1009
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: tiny black hula is the conventional angler's equivalent of the

1010
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: Google bug. Or Mr Wiggly, which smallmouth fly anglers lean

1011
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: on hard. I first discovered its power as a teenager

1012
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: while waiting a local Smalley stream, and as I recall it,

1013
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: the fishing kind of sucked that day, but it was

1014
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: one of those hot summer afternoons with dragonflies just kind

1015
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: of zipping all over the place. I don't even remember

1016
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: how that tiny black hoola ended up in my tackle kit,

1017
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: but just as they often do with poper flies, a

1018
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,479
Speaker 1: smally sipped that thing off the surface before I ever

1019
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: had a chance to twitch it. I quickly figured out

1020
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: that subtlety was the key. Don't over pop a tiny hula,

1021
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: just let it ride and give it the occasional nudge.

1022
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: I've done this with tiny houlas and other colors too,

1023
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: but none of them produced like that jet black, as

1024
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure some of you already know. While that classic

1025
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: arbigas houla skirt looks cool rate in the water, it

1026
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: has a tendency to get really dry and crispy if

1027
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 1: it sits too long in a tackle box without getting splashed. Now.

1028
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: I once read that a tiny schmear a vasoline on

1029
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: that skirt between uses will prevent this, but like, who

1030
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: who has time for that? I don't. I just use

1031
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: that o G skirt that comes with it until it's

1032
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: dry and brittle, and then just lash a bunch of

1033
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: silly legs on the back of the tying bise and

1034
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: call it good. I mean, it works just as well. Now.

1035
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: If any of you kids are just too cool to

1036
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 1: fish an old timey hula popper, arbor Gasts recently tried

1037
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: to appeal to you directly with the hula poper to

1038
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: point out it comes in mod funky colors like black Death,

1039
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: blue Kill, coach Hog, and white Zombie. Instead of a

1040
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: rubber hula skirt. There are flashy feathers on that tail,

1041
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: and I wanted to like them, I really did, But

1042
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: I still like my plain black classic mini hoola better,

1043
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: which by the way, is light enough to cast on

1044
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: a seven or eight weight fly rod if you're feeling

1045
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: extra dirty. Ah, Bula poppers are classic, but often like

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Speaker 1: kind of kind of viewed as a little bit of

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Speaker 1: an odd ball. I remember, like I was going to

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Speaker 1: uh I was going to summer camp when I was

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Speaker 1: a kid, and I was packing up a little tackle

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Speaker 1: box and ship, and I had, of course, you know,

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Speaker 1: you always pre string your rod with like that first

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Speaker 1: lure that you're gonna throw when you're a kid, you know,

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Speaker 1: you never you never get there and wait to see

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Speaker 1: how it is You still do that now? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well I picked a hula popper and my dad looks

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Speaker 1: at me, goes, what are you trying to start off

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Speaker 1: with the weirdest thing you could think of? Ah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but come on, that's that's wrong though, I remember. I remember. That's,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, that's when I first started,

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Speaker 1: uh maybe not thinking that everything my dad said about fishing.

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Speaker 1: Was absolutely gonna say, your dad is the problem here,

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Speaker 1: not the hula popper. Your dad is the one preaching.

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Speaker 1: He's stopping the children of today throwing the whole of

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Speaker 1: poppers with that attitude, I highly recommend the hold of popper.

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Speaker 1: That's why I did a whole end of the line

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Speaker 1: on it. Anyway, So look that's it for this week.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, Canada, it was good figuratively hanging with

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Speaker 1: you again. And if you're planning to literally hang out

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Speaker 1: in Canada, remember a negative rapid anagen COVID test is

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Speaker 1: not acceptable at the border. You either have to get

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01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: the Q tip jammed up your snooter, or you can

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Speaker 1: keep ice fishing on the same pressured park pond in

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Speaker 1: your neighborhood down here in the States. I do them

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Speaker 1: two swabs up my nose and touch my brain to

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Speaker 1: get up to Canada to ice fish this winner, don't forget.

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Speaker 1: Check out episode one of the Canadian Angle on meat

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Speaker 1: Eator's YouTube channel, and while you're playing around on your phone,

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Speaker 1: send a bar, nominations, sale bin item, voice memo, awkward photo,

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01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: or anything else you think we might be able to

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Speaker 1: use on the show to Bent at the meat eator

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Speaker 1: dot com. Also keeping up with those bent podcasts in

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01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: the generat Angler hashtags there but we love seeing them there.

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01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: But so, maybe you stag a carp with your hold

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Speaker 1: of paper take a little photo for us there. But

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Speaker 1: so you just have a great old day there. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you, buddy,