Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
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Speaker 2: week's six shocking stories.
Speaker 1: So last week we talked about this kid who was
Speaker 1: vomiting and constipated because he ate a dollhead, which we
Speaker 1: really couldn't wrap our head around how you just follow
Speaker 1: an entire doll head. But well, this week we have
Speaker 1: another story set in by radiologists. So she said, on
Speaker 1: her last day at her job, one of the texts
Speaker 1: offered her an X ray, which was one of many
Speaker 1: copies he made over his thirty year career. It's kind
Speaker 1: of cool to think that somebody has this like art
Speaker 1: collection of interesting X rays, don't you think?
Speaker 2: In the Morgan in the hospital, like we had an
Speaker 2: organ collection. I remember an it was so it was
Speaker 2: so good. When I was rotating as a student at
Speaker 2: one of my at the hospitals I was at one
Speaker 2: of my mentors pulled out this box with just slices
Speaker 2: of organs in it, and it was really really cool
Speaker 2: to see it because it was things that you would
Speaker 2: just never you may never see in your career, like
Speaker 2: disseminated TB infection, and I remember that was one of
Speaker 2: them that was just something I might not ever see,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, even though I did see
Speaker 2: it after that, but still just more rare things that
Speaker 2: you might not ever come across. And it's cool to
Speaker 2: show students because they learn about things, but they don't
Speaker 2: really ever get to see them. So you get to
Speaker 2: tell these stories that if you're a radiologist or radiology
Speaker 2: tech all the time, but it's cool to pull the
Speaker 2: picture out and be like, yeah, this is what it
Speaker 2: looked like on imaging. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So she gets this gift of one of these scans
Speaker 1: from one of her coworkers. So in this case, there
Speaker 1: was a young man who was mad at his mom
Speaker 1: because she wouldn't give him money. I mean, this must
Speaker 1: be a very common argument like younger people have with
Speaker 1: their parents, but this guy took it one step further,
Speaker 1: so to teach her a lesson, he took her precious
Speaker 1: China doll and inserted it into his anus. The picture
Speaker 1: is insane because it's just like a normal X ray
Speaker 1: of a pelvis and there's this giant doll in between.
Speaker 1: It doesn't look like a typical one of those dainty
Speaker 1: porcelain dolls. Somebody was saying in the comments in the
Speaker 1: gross room that it looked like one of these Charlotte dolls.
Speaker 2: Or something like from back from back in the day,
Speaker 2: you know, because it has a specific look. And people
Speaker 2: in the comments were even questioning it if it was
Speaker 2: an x ray of a woman that was pregnant with
Speaker 2: a baby in a breech position, because that's exactly what
Speaker 2: it was what it looked like to me when I
Speaker 2: first saw the picture. And I mean, but it's it's
Speaker 2: not because if if you had a fetus inside of you,
Speaker 2: you would see the x ray of the fetus as well.
Speaker 2: It's but that's that's for if you want to have
Speaker 2: a mental picture of what it looks like. It it
Speaker 2: looks like baby that's inside of the pelvis the wrong way.
Speaker 1: I mean, joke's on you because now you have to
Speaker 1: go to the hospital and get treated for it.
Speaker 2: Like what are you even thinking? Well, I don't, I
Speaker 2: don't know that this doesn't involve some kind of mental
Speaker 2: illness because usually when we see these cases of rectal
Speaker 2: foreign bodies, it's it's for sexual satisfaction. And I don't
Speaker 2: I think if he was doing it to be spiteful,
Speaker 2: and yeah, I don't. I don't know about that. I
Speaker 2: don't even know how much I believe it, honestly, but
Speaker 2: I do because I see all this crazy stuff and
Speaker 2: you look at this and you're like, how did this
Speaker 2: thing fit up this guy's ass? But we talk about
Speaker 2: that every single week, that people are sticking really large
Speaker 2: items up there, So clearly he was able to get
Speaker 2: it up there and it and for spite, it's just
Speaker 2: it's very weird. I know that there was remember in
Speaker 2: one of the I think it was the first Jackass
Speaker 2: movie maybe that one of them stuck like a a
Speaker 2: toy car up their ass or something and went and
Speaker 2: got an X ray of it, and it was like
Speaker 2: in there, but he was so massively uncomfortable the entire time,
Speaker 2: which I mean it was like a funny joke, let's
Speaker 2: see what happens whatever. I don't know, but it looked
Speaker 2: he looked so miserable after he did it, which it's
Speaker 2: not like you can feel bad. He intentionally did it
Speaker 2: for the movie, but it's kind of interesting to watch
Speaker 2: how uncomfortable someone is in that situation. And that was
Speaker 2: only a small little toy car.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was about to say, Like we
Speaker 1: have all these stories where people are sticking entire shampoo
Speaker 1: bottles and like all this crazy shit up there. I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like one of our first stories ever on
Speaker 1: Mother No's death was talking about all the different things
Speaker 1: people stuck up there. Yeah, and even in the comment
Speaker 1: section of this particular post, one of the people works
Speaker 1: in radiology said that one time she got a porcelain
Speaker 1: doorknob with the with the metal piece of it still attack. Wow,
Speaker 1: that does I mean, it makes sense that somebody would
Speaker 1: hold that the handle and kind of use that as
Speaker 1: the rectal foreign body, But unfortunately we know what happens
Speaker 1: in those cases. All right, Well, that one's called cry
Speaker 1: baby if you want to check out the picture because
Speaker 1: it is pretty crazy and it does look like it's
Speaker 1: a human baby coming out. So all right, let's get
Speaker 1: into this next one called hand in leg. So, a
Speaker 1: forty year old man with a history of epilepsy was
Speaker 1: getting ready to take a bath. He had a seizure
Speaker 1: and fell directly into the scolding hot water, which burned
Speaker 1: over fifteen percent of his body back, buttocks, and arms.
Speaker 1: So as a result, he was taken to a burn
Speaker 1: center for treatment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So when he went to the burn Center. They
Speaker 2: saw that he had really bad burns on his arms especially,
Speaker 2: and they were scared that he was going to have
Speaker 2: a condition known as compartment syndrome. So think about underneath
Speaker 2: of your skin, you have these bundles. Your muscles are
Speaker 2: all bundled up in this discovering called fascia, and if
Speaker 2: they swell, there's not really much room for the muscles
Speaker 2: to swell because the fascia is really tight and it's
Speaker 2: an't stretched really great. So they if they end up
Speaker 2: deuce swelling, it could cause compression on the blood vessels,
Speaker 2: and it really could cause changes physiological changes in the
Speaker 2: body as well that could risk a person's life and
Speaker 2: also their limb. They could end up getting an amputation.
Speaker 2: So what they do is a procedure called a fasciotomy,
Speaker 2: which is it's really kind of gnarly actually. They take
Speaker 2: a surgical knife or scalpel bleed and they put a
Speaker 2: large incision in the muscle and that allows it to well,
Speaker 2: it cuts the fashion, allows the muscle to swell as
Speaker 2: much as it needs to until it heals, and then
Speaker 2: they could sew it back up. But in this case,
Speaker 2: not only did he get this large fasciotomy incision. But
Speaker 2: around that wound was all of the burned skin from
Speaker 2: when he got burned in the bathtub, so it was
Speaker 2: essentially like his arm had no skin on it. It
Speaker 2: had this very large defect. So in order for it
Speaker 2: to heal, they did this very unusual procedure, which is
Speaker 2: called a pedical groin flap, and they basically took his
Speaker 2: hand and sewed it to his groin, allowing the skin
Speaker 2: from the groin to grow over the hand, and they
Speaker 2: leave it there for a couple of weeks. It's so
Speaker 2: insane looking.
Speaker 1: Is this like a common thing they do or it's
Speaker 1: very special? This isn't This isn't like a one off.
Speaker 1: They do this, oh my god, because it's because it's successful.
Speaker 1: So they take skin from the groin, put it over
Speaker 1: this defect on the hand. They leave the hand there
Speaker 1: for a couple weeks, So imagine having your hands sewn
Speaker 1: to your groin for a few weeks, and then the
Speaker 1: skin grows over the defect and then they're able to
Speaker 1: just cut it off of the thigh and the people
Speaker 1: there's a lot of success with it, and this guy
Speaker 1: even had success with it. Yeah, that's super cool to
Speaker 1: think about. But I mean, of course it didn't end there.
Speaker 1: He got burned again later when he was trying to
Speaker 1: take something out of the oven because he didn't have
Speaker 1: any sensitivity in that area anymore.
Speaker 2: So we had to get a grafted again. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: that's one of the concerns with people that don't have
Speaker 2: any feeling, because they could get burned again. So it's
Speaker 2: I mean, this story sucks for this guy, But the
Speaker 2: more important part of it is just this outrageous procedure
Speaker 2: that they do. Because the thing is is if they
Speaker 2: just cut the skin off the groin and sewed it
Speaker 2: right on top of the hand, it wouldn't have as
Speaker 2: much of a chance of surviving that skin graft because,
Speaker 2: especially because the rest of the skin was damaged, so
Speaker 2: there's not great blood flow going there to keep it going.
Speaker 2: So if it's still attached, if the skin on the
Speaker 2: thigh stays attached to its blood supply, then that's how
Speaker 2: it is able to heal so fast because you're not
Speaker 2: cutting it off from a healthy blood supply. So the
Speaker 2: theory of is really awesome and interesting. It's just so
Speaker 2: bizarre to think that you would have your hand sewn
Speaker 2: to your groin for weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, who even came up with this procedure? Like,
Speaker 1: do you ever wonder the origins stories of these really
Speaker 1: wild things?
Speaker 2: They do? I do, but I do, I do think.
Speaker 2: I mean, it completely makes sense because the most success
Speaker 2: that you're going the highest chance that you're going to
Speaker 2: have success with any kind of a transplant or a graft,
Speaker 2: is when it has a healthy blood supply. So and
Speaker 2: of course when it's from yourself. So if let's say
Speaker 2: I burned my arm really bad and I needed skin you,
Speaker 2: if you took skin from you to give to me,
Speaker 2: the chance of it healing well would not be great.
Speaker 2: So you want to take it from your yourself. That's
Speaker 2: the best. And then you want to take it from
Speaker 2: the healthiest part. So it makes sense. It's just funny that,
Speaker 2: I guess, you know, bringing it up and actually doing
Speaker 2: it and trying it and seeing that it worked probably
Speaker 2: was very interesting. Oh yeah, definitely. All right.
Speaker 1: This next one's called concrete evidence. So in the early
Speaker 1: two thousands, you know, you were in school, just your
Speaker 1: everyday teen mom, But of course when you were going
Speaker 1: to you can't have like a kid living in the
Speaker 1: dorms with you, So we had to get an apartment,
Speaker 1: which we had this. Really I think it's a one
Speaker 1: better apartment, but you are saying that it's not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would consider it to be more of an efficiency.
Speaker 2: It was just two rooms and a little tiny corner
Speaker 2: thing like a I wouldn't even call it a kitchen,
Speaker 2: what do you call it, or like a kitchenette or
Speaker 2: something like. It just was. It was barely it was
Speaker 2: a mini fridge and a burner or something like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, but it was. It was cute.
Speaker 1: I was like a child, so I don't have that
Speaker 1: vivid memory of that apartment, but it was. It was
Speaker 1: this little historical area of the city called Society Hill,
Speaker 1: so it's kind of in center City. It's near all
Speaker 1: the historic stuff. So every time, you know, I would
Speaker 1: tell people like, oh, I lived on the street. They're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're richie rich living over there, and I'm like, believe me.
Speaker 2: It was not a rich situation by any means, Like yeah,
Speaker 2: you're like, my mom's paying seven hundred dollars a month
Speaker 2: and we're living in this budget building. But it was.
Speaker 2: It was cute and it was good for when we
Speaker 2: needed it. But Maria's just trying to set the scene
Speaker 2: here because it was a very it was a very cute,
Speaker 2: nice neighborhood with there's horse and carriages outside and all
Speaker 2: of the sidewalks are the original brick and just it's
Speaker 2: it's very old and what you think of colonial Philadelphia,
Speaker 2: but also what you would consider a very safe part
Speaker 2: of the city until we find out what some weird
Speaker 2: thing that happened in our neighborhood. So do you want
Speaker 2: to start telling them about that? Yeah, So in two
Speaker 2: thousand and one, a thirty six year old woman who
Speaker 2: recently filed for divorce, she was actually from a town
Speaker 2: really close to us called Cinnamonson. So she which I.
Speaker 1: Was just in sentimentson like an hourgo, I know, it
Speaker 1: is very close to us. It is very crazy because
Speaker 1: you know, I remember a couple of years ago, my
Speaker 1: favorite murder got all this flack because they were talking
Speaker 1: about the case of the rabbi who hired the hitman
Speaker 1: to kill his wife that we've covered in the Grocroom
Speaker 1: actually since. But they could not comprehend that Philly was
Speaker 1: so close to New Jersey that they were calling Cherry
Speaker 1: Hill Cherry Hill, Pennsylvania. But for most people that don't
Speaker 1: know Philly and like, the area in which we live
Speaker 1: is literally five minutes apart. There's just a little bridge, like, well,
Speaker 1: not a little bridge, it's kind of a major bridge,
Speaker 1: but there's just a bridge that goes over a river
Speaker 1: separating us. So we're very integrated. So she was from
Speaker 1: Sentimenton but went missing. So she was last seen leaving
Speaker 1: the home she had shared with her husband and two kids,
Speaker 1: wearing jogging clothes in their early morning. So, two months
Speaker 1: after her disappearance, her husband had overdosed on heroin and died.
Speaker 1: The kids went on to live with other relatives, and
Speaker 1: then a little while later, neighbors next to the house
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia started complaining of the smell coming from the house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they had known that. They got a tip
Speaker 2: that the husband had done some work there. I guess
Speaker 2: he was some kind of a contractor, and they came
Speaker 2: across they kind of narrowed the smell down to the
Speaker 2: basement where there was a wall put up. Right, So
Speaker 2: they had the Philadelphia bomb Squad go there and they
Speaker 2: did some kind of X ray imaging on the wall
Speaker 2: and they saw something within the wall, so they rip
Speaker 2: it open. Now, imagine ripping open a wall of concrete
Speaker 2: it's not just it's not an easy thing that comes down,
Speaker 2: like drywall or something. So there's a lot of work
Speaker 2: that needs to go into that. And they rip it
Speaker 2: down and they find this woman dead, decomposing. She's wrapped
Speaker 2: up in like painters the yeah, like the tarp, and
Speaker 2: then she's taped up around her body. And she was
Speaker 2: placed inside of this wall, dead and decomposed. And that's
Speaker 2: what the neighbors were smelling outside, and they couldn't really
Speaker 2: quite pinpoint it because she was encased in cement. However,
Speaker 2: it was so strong that it went right through.
Speaker 1: And we used to walk by this right when you
Speaker 1: were like welcome me to school.
Speaker 2: So this was on the corner of sixth and Lombard
Speaker 2: and what's on the other corner of six and Lombard
Speaker 2: Stargarden where you went to your afterschool program every day.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, And just thinking about like how many
Speaker 2: times you walk by that wall, and just I mean,
Speaker 2: and not only that, like my whole life, which is
Speaker 2: like hanging out because that's like a block away from
Speaker 2: South Street and stuff. We just like hung out there
Speaker 2: all the time, you know. Yeah, And it's just like
Speaker 2: thinking that there's a dead, missing mother in the wall
Speaker 2: is just outrageous.
Speaker 1: It is outrageous. And one of the more shocking details
Speaker 1: of this was obviously they had to identify her, so
Speaker 1: they were able to use her teeth to identify her
Speaker 1: with dental records, but most interestingly, they were able to
Speaker 1: identify her by the serial numbers in her breast implants.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not really cool, Yeah it is really cool.
Speaker 2: So yeah, when we and when we get breast implants
Speaker 2: and surgical pathology, whenever we get them taken out or
Speaker 2: anything like that, we always put the serial number in
Speaker 2: the description, so they are attached to people by that
Speaker 2: number when they put them in, and that's it really
Speaker 2: is a great especially because so many women have breast implants.
Speaker 2: You could if they end up dying. It's it's like
Speaker 2: the serial number is very useful in identification.
Speaker 1: This is making me think of that really incredible quote
Speaker 1: that Murphy had in his book that I'm just paraphrasing,
Speaker 1: was something like, the methods of committing murder haven't changed
Speaker 1: over in thousands of years, but the methods of solving
Speaker 1: crimes have changed significantly in the time. So just think
Speaker 1: about it, like you're now solving murders by breast implant
Speaker 1: serial numbers.
Speaker 2: It's just so nuts. Yeah, and this one was this
Speaker 2: one was super interesting. And I remember when I went
Speaker 2: to the Medical Examiner's office, this was one of the
Speaker 2: cases that they teach you about as part of the
Speaker 2: identification procedures and things like that, because you have to think,
Speaker 2: this was back in two thousand and one, so this
Speaker 2: was a while ago. Yeah, this isn't like it just happened.
Speaker 2: And that was more of a newer thing that they
Speaker 2: started doing, you know, because breast implants haven't been a
Speaker 2: thing for so long. You know, they're fairly new in
Speaker 2: the world. And it was It's really cool that they
Speaker 2: were able to do that. And I'm just curious when
Speaker 2: she went missing for two months, like the husband, the
Speaker 2: husband still had custody of the kids, like where I
Speaker 2: never really looked into this case because I was kind
Speaker 2: of younger when it happened and everything. But I am curious.
Speaker 2: You're the wife goes missing and the kids just get
Speaker 2: to stay with the dad. They they don't they don't
Speaker 2: know where she's at. I actually feel terrible for these kids.
Speaker 2: They they must have had a horrible home life. Their
Speaker 2: dad odd two months after their mom went missing. I
Speaker 2: mean luckily they were. I mean they were what were
Speaker 2: they four and six or something? They were pretty little.
Speaker 2: Well do you think it's possible, Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just running through a bunch of scenarios, like if
Speaker 1: she was smelling at that point, oh, she was said
Speaker 1: she was dead the day that she got killed, I
Speaker 1: don't remember if if it was in some day you.
Speaker 2: Were missing, you think she got yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think the cop putting her in the
Speaker 1: concrete just do you think that's potentially slowed down the
Speaker 1: dcomp or No?
Speaker 2: Not really. I mean it depends what time of year
Speaker 2: it was in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: But how long does a decomposing body smell for like
Speaker 1: if you were to leave it alone, like when they're
Speaker 1: at the body farm and they first put somebody out
Speaker 1: and they first started smelling, Like, how long does the
Speaker 1: smell stay for months?
Speaker 2: It all just depends on the environment around it. But
Speaker 2: I mean just think about this, like, do you remember
Speaker 2: Uncle Louie found in I don't know if it was
Speaker 2: in his garage or and dooshore he found a squirrel.
Speaker 2: It's like a squirrel or something that was mommified in
Speaker 2: a garage or something. He gave it to me. He's like,
Speaker 2: you want this, and I was like, yeah, it's cool, right,
Speaker 2: and he gave it to me, and it smells so bad.
Speaker 2: So I put it in his cabinet in my house
Speaker 2: and it just it just smell every single time I
Speaker 2: opened the cabinet and stuff, and then every single thing
Speaker 2: that was in that cabinet started smelling like it. And
Speaker 2: then finally I just got rid of it. I kept
Speaker 2: it for a while, but like the whole cabinet kind
Speaker 2: of got tainted by the smell of it. And that
Speaker 2: thing was like years and years old. I mean, it
Speaker 2: just everything just it just depends, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I'm only super Philadelphia basement hot that could go really fast,
Speaker 2: and it just it all just depends. But once once
Speaker 2: in theory, once all of this soft tissue is gone,
Speaker 2: it shouldn't smell anymore because that's what gives off the
Speaker 2: smell is the bacteria from the soft tissue. But it
Speaker 2: all just depends, because you can have like Paul swears
Speaker 2: when he goes to these you know, when he does
Speaker 2: those mommified bodies, when he went just went to Indonesia
Speaker 2: and stuff, he swears it doesn't smell there, which is
Speaker 2: just like what I'm wondering. But I just want to
Speaker 2: go because he's like, you should go with me. I
Speaker 2: really want to go, and I might go one day.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm going to because he's telling
Speaker 2: me to bring the kids and stuff, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it would be like really cool,
Speaker 2: but but like I want to go and see if
Speaker 2: I could pick it up because I'm so sensitive to it.
Speaker 2: I just if he thinks it doesn't smell and I'll
Speaker 2: be like there's a little bit of an odor going
Speaker 2: on here. I don't know. I just I'm curious.
Speaker 1: So I was wondering this last night because I was
Speaker 1: watching this antique collecting show or like whatever. There's this
Speaker 1: show on Netflix where people are like buying collectibles and stuff.
Speaker 1: So they they were like, oh, we have this.
Speaker 2: We have this unbelievable thing.
Speaker 1: We think it's Cleopatra's hand, and I'm like, it's definitely
Speaker 1: a mummy's hand. But I haven't finished the season yet,
Speaker 1: so I don't know if they confirm. They said they
Speaker 1: were going to try to confirm through DNA that it
Speaker 1: was her hand, right, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 1: All I was thinking about was there. They just keep
Speaker 1: taking it out of the box, and I'm like, does
Speaker 1: that thing not smell? I don't know, it looks nice smells.
Speaker 2: I know, but I don't think after thousands.
Speaker 1: Of year, No, I don't think the dcom spells there
Speaker 1: were saying like, there's a clow, it looks like there's
Speaker 1: a cloth on it, and I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: feel like it probably smells like.
Speaker 2: You just you just have to think about it though,
Speaker 2: Like honestly, a purse is made out of cow skin
Speaker 2: like that if things are treated properly, they don't Like
Speaker 2: if you if I said to you, what does leather
Speaker 2: smell like? In general, most people will say it smells good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think it's a ravenly smell exactly. But it's cow skin,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like it just has
Speaker 2: but that's what it is. So it's just like if
Speaker 2: anything's preserved in the right way, it's not going to
Speaker 2: have a smell. Although it still has a smell though,
Speaker 2: it's just not a negative smell. But where did I
Speaker 2: go when we were going to crime Con? I went
Speaker 2: to that boot barn store because I really really tried
Speaker 2: to dry dress western. I just can't get down with it,
Speaker 2: Like it's just very hard for me to pull it
Speaker 2: off with my with my preppy style. But the store
Speaker 2: smells like heaven. When you walk in that store, it
Speaker 2: just smells so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like leather, and our boot barn is like kind
Speaker 1: of like a bobo boot barn, Like if you go
Speaker 1: to ones in the South, they really have a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff there, Like ours has like a pretty small
Speaker 1: selection of boots. But when you go to the Mega
Speaker 1: boot Barns and they have like rows and rows and
Speaker 1: rows and rows of booths, that is the most heavenly.
Speaker 2: I was just so mad that I, like, I walk
Speaker 2: in that store and I think, like if they just
Speaker 2: told me that I could take whatever I want out
Speaker 2: of the store, there's literally nothing I could find, Like
Speaker 2: at that location. It's not my I don't think at
Speaker 2: any location it's not my style, but it does smell
Speaker 2: really good in there. I love that place.
Speaker 1: So we're just gonna have to beg the differ on
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Speaker 1: Those are coming up. We are huge Christmas people, so
Speaker 1: get ready because we're gonna start pushing it as a Christmas.
Speaker 2: Present for the next three months. So see there. And
Speaker 2: when you get the book plate, you can put a
Speaker 2: note that says that I will write I'll sign it
Speaker 2: and I'll write a little note to somebody. We've had
Speaker 2: a couple weird ones, yeah, real weird ones, but I'll.
Speaker 1: As long as it's not anything that's super offensive, baking
Speaker 1: the law or yeah, just like something that I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I'm not writing out.
Speaker 2: I don't think that that's happened yet right now, it hasn't.
Speaker 1: We haven't had to turn down any yet, but there
Speaker 1: have been some of them.
Speaker 2: I've been very weird and I'm like, what, Like, I'm
Speaker 2: seriously like, what the fuck does this mean? Right now?
Speaker 2: Like am I am? I saying? You know, it's like
Speaker 2: an urban dictionary thing. That you're like, am I saying
Speaker 2: something really fresh that all the kids understand that I
Speaker 2: don't understand. So, but yeah, check it out. It's awesome.
Speaker 1: This next one was submitted by a listener. So this
Speaker 1: listener and her husband did a DNA hit a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. After they got their results, they got
Speaker 1: a couple hits, so her husband started doing his own research.
Speaker 1: So as he's going through these records, he you know,
Speaker 1: doesn't really find anything interesting at first, and his whole
Speaker 1: family seems to be pretty normal until he comes upon
Speaker 1: this newspaper article that his uncle blew himself up in
Speaker 1: the twenties. Yes, so she finds this article, which is
Speaker 1: so cool, and it just says that this guy, it
Speaker 1: seems like he was inside an automobile store that sells
Speaker 1: like I would think it would be like Pep Boy
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a store like that. And they were
Speaker 2: in the back and they had this souvenir shell from
Speaker 2: France and the people were saying, Eh, what if it's active,
Speaker 2: don't touch it. And then he was like, what, it's
Speaker 2: a dud. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He specifically kept saying it was a dud, yeah until
Speaker 1: it went.
Speaker 2: Off, and for until it went off and killed him
Speaker 2: and injured his two friends that were standing nearby.
Speaker 1: So so they said it was a souvenir from overseas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then it happened in the automobile accessory store. I
Speaker 1: mean this happened in nineteen twenty, so this has to
Speaker 1: be some early version of pet Boys, as you were saying.
Speaker 2: But it's super. I love more that the listener was
Speaker 2: saying that maybe her husband has acquired this family member's
Speaker 2: brain cells. Sometimes she thinks that that was the best
Speaker 2: part of the email.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, I love that, And she included the newspaper
Speaker 1: article showing it's it's super. It's a cool family artifact
Speaker 1: to have, even though it's like kind of a wild story.
Speaker 1: And yeah, some people, ohah, totally say and hang that up.
Speaker 1: That would be like, yeah, that's awesome, all right. This
Speaker 1: next one is truly unbelievable. In northern Italy, a seventy
Speaker 1: four year old man owned a cheese factory, so he
Speaker 1: and his fifty year old son had gone to the
Speaker 1: facility after an alarm went off with one of the machines.
Speaker 1: So after they fixed the issue, the son left the
Speaker 1: father to go restart the machine. Heard a very loud,
Speaker 1: crashy noise. So, as it turns out, a thirty foot
Speaker 1: high shelf in the warehouse broke, causing this domino effect
Speaker 1: where fifteen thousand wheels of cheese crumbled to the ground
Speaker 1: and crushed the guy.
Speaker 2: How outrageous is that? Yeah, I mean I never heard
Speaker 2: about this story. It seemed it happened last year, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I feel like this would have been something that
Speaker 2: would have been prime gross for material, but I didn't
Speaker 2: hear about it when it happened, and I just came
Speaker 2: across the story and thought, like jeez, And it said
Speaker 2: it took firefighters like twelve hours. Imagine. I keep thinking
Speaker 2: about this, like Gabe showing up to a scene and
Speaker 2: all of him and his friends like having the rab
Speaker 2: these giant wheels of cheese and move them all over,
Speaker 2: fifteen thousand of them, Like.
Speaker 1: Well I did not, I did some meth So. They
Speaker 1: said approximately fifteen thousand wheels of this cheese fell and
Speaker 1: they each weighed approximately forty pounds, So that's like around
Speaker 1: six hundred thousand pounds of cheese that fell. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like so horrible. Of course, it took them so long.
Speaker 1: They said it was over seven million dollars worth of
Speaker 1: damage to the facility, the machine, all the cheese was lost.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously the guy got crushed to death, so.
Speaker 2: The cheese was lost.
Speaker 1: They couldn't have just like, well, it probably picked it
Speaker 1: up and moved it to a refrigerator or wherever somewhere.
Speaker 1: Do you think it potentially had, you know, like bodily
Speaker 1: fluids on it from crushing a human.
Speaker 2: Ones at the bottom, but the ones at the top
Speaker 2: are so good.
Speaker 1: I don't think that they're safe to keep serving. Oh
Speaker 1: my god involved in it.
Speaker 2: If there were fifteen thousand of them, there's probably like
Speaker 2: four of them that had blood on the rest of
Speaker 2: them were totally fine. This is the same. Aren't they
Speaker 2: covered in like wax and shit? Anyway?
Speaker 1: Come on, it was grana padano, a parmesan like cheese.
Speaker 2: Yes, so they were like bricks. They were really happy.
Speaker 2: Would they say one weighed forty pounds each? Yeah? I
Speaker 2: believe that. Yeah. Speaking of there's a restaurant that you've
Speaker 2: never been to in Atlantic City and they use they
Speaker 2: have one of those big wheels of cheese, right m
Speaker 2: And they put boiling hot pasta in the wheel of
Speaker 2: cheese and make homemade fetuccini alfredo right at the table side. Yum.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I mean this was prior to my gluten free days,
Speaker 2: but like, how amazing is that it? Like the hot
Speaker 2: pasta makes the cheese melt as they're making it right there.
Speaker 1: So I don't think I've annoyingly told everybody that I
Speaker 1: started making sour dough bread and it hasn't well, I
Speaker 1: haven't really had a bad reaction to it.
Speaker 2: Of you, no, but I didn't really have it yet.
Speaker 1: Give you like half a loaf last week. Her idea
Speaker 1: of not having a lot is eating half a loaf
Speaker 1: of bread. Yes, but yeah, I've been doing the long
Speaker 1: fermentation and it's been working pretty good and it's nice
Speaker 1: to have a normal tasting bread again. So all right, anyway,
Speaker 1: let's get onto this last one speaking of cheese, called
Speaker 1: cheese burrito. So in Germany, a forty year old man
Speaker 1: did not come to work for a few days, which
Speaker 1: was very unusual for him. So after not being able
Speaker 1: to get in touch with him via phone, the police
Speaker 1: were called to do a welfare check. So they got
Speaker 1: to his apartment on the thirteenth floor of this high
Speaker 1: rise and they found his body crouched up next to
Speaker 1: a radiator. But this scene was really unusual.
Speaker 2: It's this is probably one of the most outrageous scenes
Speaker 2: that anyone has ever been to. So first, the guy is,
Speaker 2: as Maria said, he's crouched over next to a radiator,
Speaker 2: and he's wearing a full on like swimsuit like good,
Speaker 2: like a wet suit like the like going yes with
Speaker 2: including socks. Yes.
Speaker 1: So they lay him out and you know when they're
Speaker 1: going to start doing the autopsy to see how he died,
Speaker 1: even though he had a plastic bag over his head,
Speaker 1: so clearly that has something to do with it, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: They take off this wet suit and underneath that he
Speaker 1: has on a raincoat and plastic bags wrapped around his feet.
Speaker 2: So this is under the wet suit. This is under
Speaker 2: the wet suit. So then they take off the raincoat
Speaker 2: and then they see the most bizarre shit ever. This
Speaker 2: guy is wearing almost a full body like leotard thing
Speaker 2: that's made out of sheer like stockings, a shirt and
Speaker 2: leggings that are made out of think about like stockings
Speaker 2: or pantyhose, and underneath, wrapped around his entire body are
Speaker 2: hundreds of slices of cheese. Yes, like cheese that's now
Speaker 2: like kind of melted and congealed together because of the
Speaker 2: heat coming off of his body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which, when you first see the pictures of this guy,
Speaker 1: you're just like, I don't even understand how this happened
Speaker 1: because it literally looks like all this cheese was like
Speaker 1: perfectly molded to his body. But obviously you're like his body,
Speaker 1: he just melted them all together into this one giant
Speaker 1: like sheet around his tor sho. It's nuts, it's.
Speaker 2: So it is so weird and so so to see
Speaker 2: an investigation and everything that. So they came up with
Speaker 2: the determination that his manner of death was accidental and
Speaker 2: the cause was because he did auto erotic asphyxiation. So
Speaker 2: we talked about that a couple weeks ago when we
Speaker 2: were talking about that bizarre scene of that guy that
Speaker 2: was hanging from his doorknob and his mom found him
Speaker 2: and he was he was looking at some unusual pornography,
Speaker 2: and we did talk about in those cases that there's
Speaker 2: usually some kind of a sexual fetish that might key
Speaker 2: off the investigators that that's what's happening there. So they
Speaker 2: did find some pornography that had pictures of women wearing
Speaker 2: plastic outfits. I don't know what that's about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, did they were they referring to
Speaker 1: like latex clothing or like, like.
Speaker 2: I don't know what was going on. But the whole
Speaker 2: point of autoerotic asseixiation is because it's supposed to increase
Speaker 2: the experience when you have an orgasm. And I guess
Speaker 2: I guess the question that I have here as well,
Speaker 2: like why would you consider that autoerotic asseixiation if he
Speaker 2: wasn't having an orgasm at the time. It's kind of weird,
Speaker 2: Like there's no mention that there was any part of
Speaker 2: this outfit that he had on that his penis was
Speaker 2: exposed and he was doing.
Speaker 1: That, I thought, so, I thought that that was a
Speaker 1: little weird. I thought that they had mentioned that there
Speaker 1: had been cheese on his genitals as well.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah there was, but he wasn't touching it. So
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what. I'm not sure what he was doing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if maybe there was a cheese squeeze
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know what was happening there. Geeze squeeze. Listen.
Speaker 2: This case has like blown my mind because of course,
Speaker 2: I'm like, when I'm looking at this. As a person
Speaker 2: that likes to investigate this kind of stuff, my first
Speaker 2: thing is like, what's the significance of the cheese? Okay?
Speaker 2: And I got down a hole today when I was looking. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: there is something called a case so sexual what is it?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: So explain this for people that have a sexual desire
Speaker 2: and fantasy to either have sex with cheese or are
Speaker 2: aroused by cheese. Okay, So there's a Reddit community. Of
Speaker 2: course there's only twenty eight, which is reassuring at least,
Speaker 2: but they're but twenty eight people is a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Do you think twenty eight people are all interested in
Speaker 1: having sex with cheese? Or do you think five people
Speaker 1: are interested in having sex with cheese? And the rest
Speaker 1: of the people are like, I gotta fucking keep up
Speaker 1: with this thing.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I want to keep up with this thing.
Speaker 2: I have to tell you about I.
Speaker 1: This is a couple of the posts that I found
Speaker 1: on this because because I was and the best was like,
Speaker 1: I was copying.
Speaker 2: And pasting them and sending them the Gabe and.
Speaker 1: He's probably like, what the fuck are you even talking
Speaker 1: about right now? All right?
Speaker 2: This one said it was actually my best friend who
Speaker 2: introduced me to it. When we discovered that we were
Speaker 2: both by curious, we started having a sexual relationship, and
Speaker 2: after a few months he told me being sexually attracted.
Speaker 2: He was asking if he was sexually attracted to cheese
Speaker 2: and saying that he was sexually attracted to cheese as well.
Speaker 2: He said that he thought it was weird at first,
Speaker 2: but gave it a try and immediately loved it from
Speaker 2: the get go, from the feeling to the smell. And
Speaker 2: since cheese was this person's favorite food since childhood, it
Speaker 2: helped them experience it and they enjoyed it. So he
Speaker 2: decided to do it again the next day and said
Speaker 2: he masturbated with a slice of Gouda. By the way,
Speaker 2: Guda comes up often as the cheese.
Speaker 1: I was literally gonna ask if there was a cheese
Speaker 1: you saw that these people preferred, because this gentleman we're
Speaker 1: referring to in our story looks like he had a
Speaker 1: bunch of Kraft singles melted into one big blob.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like Craft singles or Velveta singles, like
Speaker 2: they're all it's like a very specific that fake orange cheese.
Speaker 1: Because I feel like if you're you know having like
Speaker 1: a breathe that's a little messy, right, So are you
Speaker 1: wanting a messy cheese or firm cheese?
Speaker 2: Guda is the one that comes up, which is interesting,
Speaker 2: but it just said they you know that. So this
Speaker 2: person's saying that they still sleep with their friend regularly,
Speaker 2: but sometimes they use cheese mostly for hand jobs. But
Speaker 2: they actually have had where they've had sex with a
Speaker 2: goodle wheel.
Speaker 1: Oh the wheel, the wheel comes back. There's another one.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to go over all of them
Speaker 1: because it's just so crazy, but just oh, I had
Speaker 1: this attraction to cheese.
Speaker 2: It started as a child. I imagine girls turning into
Speaker 2: cheese statues or being transformed into a beautiful girl cheese
Speaker 2: statue myself, Like what do you find that it's mostly males?
Speaker 2: It seems like it was mostly males. And they were
Speaker 2: talking about other fetishes such as I don't even want
Speaker 2: to know if I want to say these out loud
Speaker 2: because they might be really terrible, wamasfr and food TF.
Speaker 2: I feel the soft cheese and I've definitely dunked myself
Speaker 2: in a few times.
Speaker 1: Like what, Well, there's definitely a fetish for everything, and
Speaker 1: you'll especially learn everything you need to know about it
Speaker 1: on Reddit, because there is truly a Reddit page for
Speaker 1: everything in existence.
Speaker 2: Eight people are like, yeah, I'm this is good. This
Speaker 2: is great that I found this because I'm sexually attracted
Speaker 2: to cheese too, and it makes me feel like less weird.
Speaker 1: I do find it so so this is interesting because
Speaker 1: it pertains to a conversation I with Lilian yesterday, because
Speaker 1: Lilian was asking me something about the SIMS yesterday and
Speaker 1: I said I had to look something up on Reddit
Speaker 1: for her about the SIMS. And then she said, is
Speaker 1: it read at a really horrible place? And I said,
Speaker 1: it's either the worst place in the world or the
Speaker 1: best place in the world. It depends what you're looking for.
Speaker 1: So I feel like.
Speaker 2: It say, for me, it was the best place in
Speaker 2: the world. I was like, I could read this shit
Speaker 2: all day. It was pretty interesting, and everybody she will
Speaker 2: read it all night. I don't. I just don't like,
Speaker 2: are people lying? Is this?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Are they is this? Just like if I go on
Speaker 2: there and make it like a fake I need to
Speaker 2: make a fake account.
Speaker 1: I would say twenty five percent of those people probably
Speaker 1: actually are sexually attracted to cheese, while the rest are
Speaker 1: like I have to watch what goes down in this
Speaker 1: group chat.
Speaker 2: What and and what's the point of the wrapping of
Speaker 2: the cheese around the entire body.
Speaker 1: It's just I don't know what this guy was doing
Speaker 1: like this. I don't either, and the and the whole
Speaker 1: you know, it was written by a medical journal and
Speaker 1: it's in German, so I got out of it what
Speaker 1: I could get out of it as far as facts,
Speaker 1: But I am curious about more of of the of
Speaker 1: the story, to be honest, because it is so weird.
Speaker 1: I feel like if you see the pictures without the context,
Speaker 1: it's kind of confusing because it's the same color as
Speaker 1: like fat. Is that correct to say, like, yeah, it's open,
Speaker 1: it kind of is.
Speaker 2: It's it's like a weird yellow orange color. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when I first saw the pictures without reading the story,
Speaker 1: I was confuse what was going on because I was like,
Speaker 1: why is all of his fat like on the outside
Speaker 1: of his body? But no, it was just like American
Speaker 1: cheese slices. The pictures are so outrageous, Yeah, they really are. Well,
Speaker 1: if you guys have a shocking story, we would love
Speaker 1: to hear it. We love the user submitted ones more
Speaker 1: than anything, and it doesn't even have to be a
Speaker 1: personal experience like you know, the one we read earlier
Speaker 1: in the episode. It could be a link to a
Speaker 1: story you've seen too, like this one. So you could
Speaker 1: submit that to stories at mothernosdepth dot com and we
Speaker 1: will read them on air.
Speaker 2: Yes, please do. I mean, I don't know if you're
Speaker 2: ever gonna top this one, but the best part about
Speaker 2: this show, in this career is that there's just always
Speaker 2: something more outrageous around the corner.
Speaker 1: Literally every week we say you can't top this one,
Speaker 1: and then two minutes after we record, we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: here's an even worse story.
Speaker 2: So there. I'd like to know if any of you
Speaker 2: have a cheese fetish and if you have checked out
Speaker 2: the cheese caso sexual page on on Reddit apparently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, if you didn't know about it and you
Speaker 1: are attracted to cheese, there is a whole community for
Speaker 1: you out there.
Speaker 2: So go you.
Speaker 1: We'll see you later in the week with Pathology in
Speaker 1: the news, Saya, have a good night.
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