1 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. 2 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get into this 3 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: week's six shocking stories. 4 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: So last week we talked about this kid who was 5 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: vomiting and constipated because he ate a dollhead, which we 6 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: really couldn't wrap our head around how you just follow 7 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: an entire doll head. But well, this week we have 8 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: another story set in by radiologists. So she said, on 9 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: her last day at her job, one of the texts 10 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: offered her an X ray, which was one of many 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: copies he made over his thirty year career. It's kind 12 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: of cool to think that somebody has this like art 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: collection of interesting X rays, don't you think? 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: In the Morgan in the hospital, like we had an 15 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: organ collection. I remember an it was so it was 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: so good. When I was rotating as a student at 17 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: one of my at the hospitals I was at one 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: of my mentors pulled out this box with just slices 19 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 2: of organs in it, and it was really really cool 20 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: to see it because it was things that you would 21 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: just never you may never see in your career, like 22 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: disseminated TB infection, and I remember that was one of 23 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: them that was just something I might not ever see, 24 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, even though I did see 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: it after that, but still just more rare things that 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: you might not ever come across. And it's cool to 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: show students because they learn about things, but they don't 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: really ever get to see them. So you get to 29 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: tell these stories that if you're a radiologist or radiology 30 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: tech all the time, but it's cool to pull the 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: picture out and be like, yeah, this is what it 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: looked like on imaging. Yeah. 33 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: So she gets this gift of one of these scans 34 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: from one of her coworkers. So in this case, there 35 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: was a young man who was mad at his mom 36 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: because she wouldn't give him money. I mean, this must 37 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: be a very common argument like younger people have with 38 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: their parents, but this guy took it one step further, 39 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: so to teach her a lesson, he took her precious 40 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: China doll and inserted it into his anus. The picture 41 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: is insane because it's just like a normal X ray 42 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: of a pelvis and there's this giant doll in between. 43 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: It doesn't look like a typical one of those dainty 44 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: porcelain dolls. Somebody was saying in the comments in the 45 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: gross room that it looked like one of these Charlotte dolls. 46 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: Or something like from back from back in the day, 47 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: you know, because it has a specific look. And people 48 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: in the comments were even questioning it if it was 49 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 2: an x ray of a woman that was pregnant with 50 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: a baby in a breech position, because that's exactly what 51 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: it was what it looked like to me when I 52 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: first saw the picture. And I mean, but it's it's 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: not because if if you had a fetus inside of you, 54 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: you would see the x ray of the fetus as well. 55 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: It's but that's that's for if you want to have 56 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: a mental picture of what it looks like. It it 57 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: looks like baby that's inside of the pelvis the wrong way. 58 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: I mean, joke's on you because now you have to 59 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: go to the hospital and get treated for it. 60 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: Like what are you even thinking? Well, I don't, I 61 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: don't know that this doesn't involve some kind of mental 62 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: illness because usually when we see these cases of rectal 63 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: foreign bodies, it's it's for sexual satisfaction. And I don't 64 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: I think if he was doing it to be spiteful, 65 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: and yeah, I don't. I don't know about that. I 66 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: don't even know how much I believe it, honestly, but 67 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: I do because I see all this crazy stuff and 68 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: you look at this and you're like, how did this 69 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: thing fit up this guy's ass? But we talk about 70 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: that every single week, that people are sticking really large 71 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,839 Speaker 2: items up there, So clearly he was able to get 72 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: it up there and it and for spite, it's just 73 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: it's very weird. I know that there was remember in 74 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: one of the I think it was the first Jackass 75 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: movie maybe that one of them stuck like a a 76 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: toy car up their ass or something and went and 77 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: got an X ray of it, and it was like 78 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: in there, but he was so massively uncomfortable the entire time, 79 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: which I mean it was like a funny joke, let's 80 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: see what happens whatever. I don't know, but it looked 81 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 2: he looked so miserable after he did it, which it's 82 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: not like you can feel bad. He intentionally did it 83 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: for the movie, but it's kind of interesting to watch 84 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: how uncomfortable someone is in that situation. And that was 85 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 2: only a small little toy car. 86 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was about to say, Like we 87 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: have all these stories where people are sticking entire shampoo 88 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: bottles and like all this crazy shit up there. I mean, 89 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: I feel like one of our first stories ever on 90 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: Mother No's death was talking about all the different things 91 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: people stuck up there. Yeah, and even in the comment 92 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: section of this particular post, one of the people works 93 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: in radiology said that one time she got a porcelain 94 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: doorknob with the with the metal piece of it still attack. Wow, 95 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: that does I mean, it makes sense that somebody would 96 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: hold that the handle and kind of use that as 97 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: the rectal foreign body, But unfortunately we know what happens 98 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: in those cases. All right, Well, that one's called cry 99 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: baby if you want to check out the picture because 100 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: it is pretty crazy and it does look like it's 101 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: a human baby coming out. So all right, let's get 102 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: into this next one called hand in leg. So, a 103 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: forty year old man with a history of epilepsy was 104 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: getting ready to take a bath. He had a seizure 105 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: and fell directly into the scolding hot water, which burned 106 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: over fifteen percent of his body back, buttocks, and arms. 107 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: So as a result, he was taken to a burn 108 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: center for treatment. 109 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, So when he went to the burn Center. They 110 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: saw that he had really bad burns on his arms especially, 111 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: and they were scared that he was going to have 112 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: a condition known as compartment syndrome. So think about underneath 113 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: of your skin, you have these bundles. Your muscles are 114 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: all bundled up in this discovering called fascia, and if 115 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: they swell, there's not really much room for the muscles 116 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 2: to swell because the fascia is really tight and it's 117 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: an't stretched really great. So they if they end up 118 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: deuce swelling, it could cause compression on the blood vessels, 119 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: and it really could cause changes physiological changes in the 120 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: body as well that could risk a person's life and 121 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: also their limb. They could end up getting an amputation. 122 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: So what they do is a procedure called a fasciotomy, 123 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: which is it's really kind of gnarly actually. They take 124 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 2: a surgical knife or scalpel bleed and they put a 125 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: large incision in the muscle and that allows it to well, 126 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: it cuts the fashion, allows the muscle to swell as 127 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: much as it needs to until it heals, and then 128 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: they could sew it back up. But in this case, 129 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: not only did he get this large fasciotomy incision. But 130 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: around that wound was all of the burned skin from 131 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: when he got burned in the bathtub, so it was 132 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: essentially like his arm had no skin on it. It 133 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: had this very large defect. So in order for it 134 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 2: to heal, they did this very unusual procedure, which is 135 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: called a pedical groin flap, and they basically took his 136 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: hand and sewed it to his groin, allowing the skin 137 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: from the groin to grow over the hand, and they 138 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: leave it there for a couple of weeks. It's so 139 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: insane looking. 140 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: Is this like a common thing they do or it's 141 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: very special? This isn't This isn't like a one off. 142 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: They do this, oh my god, because it's because it's successful. 143 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: So they take skin from the groin, put it over 144 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: this defect on the hand. They leave the hand there 145 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: for a couple weeks, So imagine having your hands sewn 146 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: to your groin for a few weeks, and then the 147 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: skin grows over the defect and then they're able to 148 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: just cut it off of the thigh and the people 149 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot of success with it, and this guy 150 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: even had success with it. Yeah, that's super cool to 151 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: think about. But I mean, of course it didn't end there. 152 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: He got burned again later when he was trying to 153 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: take something out of the oven because he didn't have 154 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: any sensitivity in that area anymore. 155 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: So we had to get a grafted again. Yeah, and 156 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: that's one of the concerns with people that don't have 157 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: any feeling, because they could get burned again. So it's 158 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: I mean, this story sucks for this guy, But the 159 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: more important part of it is just this outrageous procedure 160 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: that they do. Because the thing is is if they 161 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: just cut the skin off the groin and sewed it 162 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: right on top of the hand, it wouldn't have as 163 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: much of a chance of surviving that skin graft because, 164 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: especially because the rest of the skin was damaged, so 165 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 2: there's not great blood flow going there to keep it going. 166 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: So if it's still attached, if the skin on the 167 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: thigh stays attached to its blood supply, then that's how 168 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: it is able to heal so fast because you're not 169 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 2: cutting it off from a healthy blood supply. So the 170 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: theory of is really awesome and interesting. It's just so 171 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 2: bizarre to think that you would have your hand sewn 172 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: to your groin for weeks. 173 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, who even came up with this procedure? Like, 174 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: do you ever wonder the origins stories of these really 175 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: wild things? 176 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: They do? I do, but I do, I do think. 177 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: I mean, it completely makes sense because the most success 178 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: that you're going the highest chance that you're going to 179 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: have success with any kind of a transplant or a graft, 180 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 2: is when it has a healthy blood supply. So and 181 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: of course when it's from yourself. So if let's say 182 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: I burned my arm really bad and I needed skin you, 183 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: if you took skin from you to give to me, 184 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: the chance of it healing well would not be great. 185 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: So you want to take it from your yourself. That's 186 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: the best. And then you want to take it from 187 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: the healthiest part. So it makes sense. It's just funny that, 188 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: I guess, you know, bringing it up and actually doing 189 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: it and trying it and seeing that it worked probably 190 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: was very interesting. Oh yeah, definitely. All right. 191 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: This next one's called concrete evidence. So in the early 192 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: two thousands, you know, you were in school, just your 193 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: everyday teen mom, But of course when you were going 194 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: to you can't have like a kid living in the 195 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: dorms with you, So we had to get an apartment, 196 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: which we had this. Really I think it's a one 197 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: better apartment, but you are saying that it's not. 198 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would consider it to be more of an efficiency. 199 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: It was just two rooms and a little tiny corner 200 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: thing like a I wouldn't even call it a kitchen, 201 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 2: what do you call it, or like a kitchenette or 202 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: something like. It just was. It was barely it was 203 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: a mini fridge and a burner or something like that. 204 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: I mean, but it was. It was cute. 205 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: I was like a child, so I don't have that 206 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: vivid memory of that apartment, but it was. It was 207 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: this little historical area of the city called Society Hill, 208 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: so it's kind of in center City. It's near all 209 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: the historic stuff. So every time, you know, I would 210 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: tell people like, oh, I lived on the street. They're like, oh, 211 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: you're richie rich living over there, and I'm like, believe me. 212 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 2: It was not a rich situation by any means, Like yeah, 213 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 2: you're like, my mom's paying seven hundred dollars a month 214 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: and we're living in this budget building. But it was. 215 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: It was cute and it was good for when we 216 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 2: needed it. But Maria's just trying to set the scene 217 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 2: here because it was a very it was a very cute, 218 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: nice neighborhood with there's horse and carriages outside and all 219 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: of the sidewalks are the original brick and just it's 220 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: it's very old and what you think of colonial Philadelphia, 221 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: but also what you would consider a very safe part 222 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: of the city until we find out what some weird 223 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: thing that happened in our neighborhood. So do you want 224 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: to start telling them about that? Yeah, So in two 225 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: thousand and one, a thirty six year old woman who 226 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: recently filed for divorce, she was actually from a town 227 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: really close to us called Cinnamonson. So she which I. 228 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: Was just in sentimentson like an hourgo, I know, it 229 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: is very close to us. It is very crazy because 230 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, I remember a couple of years ago, my 231 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: favorite murder got all this flack because they were talking 232 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: about the case of the rabbi who hired the hitman 233 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: to kill his wife that we've covered in the Grocroom 234 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: actually since. But they could not comprehend that Philly was 235 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: so close to New Jersey that they were calling Cherry 236 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: Hill Cherry Hill, Pennsylvania. But for most people that don't 237 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: know Philly and like, the area in which we live 238 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: is literally five minutes apart. There's just a little bridge, like, well, 239 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: not a little bridge, it's kind of a major bridge, 240 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: but there's just a bridge that goes over a river 241 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: separating us. So we're very integrated. So she was from 242 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: Sentimenton but went missing. So she was last seen leaving 243 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: the home she had shared with her husband and two kids, 244 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: wearing jogging clothes in their early morning. So, two months 245 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: after her disappearance, her husband had overdosed on heroin and died. 246 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: The kids went on to live with other relatives, and 247 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: then a little while later, neighbors next to the house 248 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia started complaining of the smell coming from the house. 249 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they had known that. They got a tip 250 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: that the husband had done some work there. I guess 251 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: he was some kind of a contractor, and they came 252 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: across they kind of narrowed the smell down to the 253 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: basement where there was a wall put up. Right, So 254 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 2: they had the Philadelphia bomb Squad go there and they 255 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 2: did some kind of X ray imaging on the wall 256 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 2: and they saw something within the wall, so they rip 257 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: it open. Now, imagine ripping open a wall of concrete 258 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: it's not just it's not an easy thing that comes down, 259 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: like drywall or something. So there's a lot of work 260 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: that needs to go into that. And they rip it 261 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 2: down and they find this woman dead, decomposing. She's wrapped 262 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: up in like painters the yeah, like the tarp, and 263 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: then she's taped up around her body. And she was 264 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: placed inside of this wall, dead and decomposed. And that's 265 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: what the neighbors were smelling outside, and they couldn't really 266 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: quite pinpoint it because she was encased in cement. However, 267 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 2: it was so strong that it went right through. 268 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: And we used to walk by this right when you 269 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: were like welcome me to school. 270 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: So this was on the corner of sixth and Lombard 271 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 2: and what's on the other corner of six and Lombard 272 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 2: Stargarden where you went to your afterschool program every day. 273 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 2: Oh my god, And just thinking about like how many 274 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: times you walk by that wall, and just I mean, 275 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: and not only that, like my whole life, which is 276 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 2: like hanging out because that's like a block away from 277 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: South Street and stuff. We just like hung out there 278 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: all the time, you know. Yeah, And it's just like 279 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: thinking that there's a dead, missing mother in the wall 280 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: is just outrageous. 281 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: It is outrageous. And one of the more shocking details 282 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: of this was obviously they had to identify her, so 283 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: they were able to use her teeth to identify her 284 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: with dental records, but most interestingly, they were able to 285 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: identify her by the serial numbers in her breast implants. 286 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not really cool, Yeah it is really cool. 287 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, when we and when we get breast implants 288 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: and surgical pathology, whenever we get them taken out or 289 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: anything like that, we always put the serial number in 290 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: the description, so they are attached to people by that 291 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: number when they put them in, and that's it really 292 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: is a great especially because so many women have breast implants. 293 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: You could if they end up dying. It's it's like 294 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: the serial number is very useful in identification. 295 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: This is making me think of that really incredible quote 296 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,239 Speaker 1: that Murphy had in his book that I'm just paraphrasing, 297 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: was something like, the methods of committing murder haven't changed 298 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: over in thousands of years, but the methods of solving 299 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: crimes have changed significantly in the time. So just think 300 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: about it, like you're now solving murders by breast implant 301 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: serial numbers. 302 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: It's just so nuts. Yeah, and this one was this 303 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: one was super interesting. And I remember when I went 304 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: to the Medical Examiner's office, this was one of the 305 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: cases that they teach you about as part of the 306 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: identification procedures and things like that, because you have to think, 307 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: this was back in two thousand and one, so this 308 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: was a while ago. Yeah, this isn't like it just happened. 309 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: And that was more of a newer thing that they 310 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: started doing, you know, because breast implants haven't been a 311 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: thing for so long. You know, they're fairly new in 312 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: the world. And it was It's really cool that they 313 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: were able to do that. And I'm just curious when 314 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: she went missing for two months, like the husband, the 315 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: husband still had custody of the kids, like where I 316 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: never really looked into this case because I was kind 317 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 2: of younger when it happened and everything. But I am curious. 318 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: You're the wife goes missing and the kids just get 319 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: to stay with the dad. They they don't they don't 320 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: know where she's at. I actually feel terrible for these kids. 321 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: They they must have had a horrible home life. Their 322 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: dad odd two months after their mom went missing. I 323 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: mean luckily they were. I mean they were what were 324 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: they four and six or something? They were pretty little. 325 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: Well do you think it's possible, Well, I don't know. 326 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm just running through a bunch of scenarios, like if 327 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: she was smelling at that point, oh, she was said 328 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: she was dead the day that she got killed, I 329 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: don't remember if if it was in some day you. 330 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: Were missing, you think she got yeah? 331 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you think the cop putting her in the 332 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: concrete just do you think that's potentially slowed down the 333 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: dcomp or No? 334 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: Not really. I mean it depends what time of year 335 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: it was in Philadelphia. 336 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: But how long does a decomposing body smell for like 337 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: if you were to leave it alone, like when they're 338 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: at the body farm and they first put somebody out 339 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: and they first started smelling, Like, how long does the 340 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: smell stay for months? 341 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: It all just depends on the environment around it. But 342 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: I mean just think about this, like, do you remember 343 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: Uncle Louie found in I don't know if it was 344 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 2: in his garage or and dooshore he found a squirrel. 345 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: It's like a squirrel or something that was mommified in 346 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 2: a garage or something. He gave it to me. He's like, 347 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: you want this, and I was like, yeah, it's cool, right, 348 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: and he gave it to me, and it smells so bad. 349 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: So I put it in his cabinet in my house 350 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: and it just it just smell every single time I 351 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: opened the cabinet and stuff, and then every single thing 352 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: that was in that cabinet started smelling like it. And 353 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: then finally I just got rid of it. I kept 354 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 2: it for a while, but like the whole cabinet kind 355 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: of got tainted by the smell of it. And that 356 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 2: thing was like years and years old. I mean, it 357 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 2: just everything just it just depends, you know what I mean. 358 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 2: I'm only super Philadelphia basement hot that could go really fast, 359 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 2: and it just it all just depends. But once once 360 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 2: in theory, once all of this soft tissue is gone, 361 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 2: it shouldn't smell anymore because that's what gives off the 362 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: smell is the bacteria from the soft tissue. But it 363 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: all just depends, because you can have like Paul swears 364 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 2: when he goes to these you know, when he does 365 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 2: those mommified bodies, when he went just went to Indonesia 366 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 2: and stuff, he swears it doesn't smell there, which is 367 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 2: just like what I'm wondering. But I just want to 368 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 2: go because he's like, you should go with me. I 369 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 2: really want to go, and I might go one day. 370 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm going to because he's telling 371 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: me to bring the kids and stuff, and I'm like, 372 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it would be like really cool, 373 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: but but like I want to go and see if 374 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: I could pick it up because I'm so sensitive to it. 375 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 2: I just if he thinks it doesn't smell and I'll 376 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: be like there's a little bit of an odor going 377 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: on here. I don't know. I just I'm curious. 378 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: So I was wondering this last night because I was 379 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: watching this antique collecting show or like whatever. There's this 380 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: show on Netflix where people are like buying collectibles and stuff. 381 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: So they they were like, oh, we have this. 382 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: We have this unbelievable thing. 383 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: We think it's Cleopatra's hand, and I'm like, it's definitely 384 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: a mummy's hand. But I haven't finished the season yet, 385 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: so I don't know if they confirm. They said they 386 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: were going to try to confirm through DNA that it 387 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: was her hand, right, but I don't know. 388 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: Whatever. 389 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: All I was thinking about was there. They just keep 390 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: taking it out of the box, and I'm like, does 391 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 1: that thing not smell? I don't know, it looks nice smells. 392 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 2: I know, but I don't think after thousands. 393 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 1: Of year, No, I don't think the dcom spells there 394 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 1: were saying like, there's a clow, it looks like there's 395 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: a cloth on it, and I don't know. I just 396 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: feel like it probably smells like. 397 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 2: You just you just have to think about it though, 398 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: Like honestly, a purse is made out of cow skin 399 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: like that if things are treated properly, they don't Like 400 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 2: if you if I said to you, what does leather 401 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: smell like? In general, most people will say it smells good. Yeah, 402 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: I think it's a ravenly smell exactly. But it's cow skin, 403 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like it just has 404 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 2: but that's what it is. So it's just like if 405 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: anything's preserved in the right way, it's not going to 406 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: have a smell. Although it still has a smell though, 407 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 2: it's just not a negative smell. But where did I 408 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: go when we were going to crime Con? I went 409 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 2: to that boot barn store because I really really tried 410 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 2: to dry dress western. I just can't get down with it, 411 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: Like it's just very hard for me to pull it 412 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: off with my with my preppy style. But the store 413 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: smells like heaven. When you walk in that store, it 414 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: just smells so good. 415 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, like leather, and our boot barn is like kind 416 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: of like a bobo boot barn, Like if you go 417 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: to ones in the South, they really have a lot 418 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: of stuff there, Like ours has like a pretty small 419 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: selection of boots. But when you go to the Mega 420 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: boot Barns and they have like rows and rows and 421 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 1: rows and rows of booths, that is the most heavenly. 422 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: I was just so mad that I, like, I walk 423 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: in that store and I think, like if they just 424 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 2: told me that I could take whatever I want out 425 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 2: of the store, there's literally nothing I could find, Like 426 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 2: at that location. It's not my I don't think at 427 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: any location it's not my style, but it does smell 428 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: really good in there. I love that place. 429 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: So we're just gonna have to beg the differ on 430 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: this one. This episode is brought to you by Nicole 431 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: and Jimmy's Anatomy book. 432 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: Guys, I don't know if you know this, but two 433 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 2: years ago, around the same exact time of year, I 434 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 2: came out with my first book. Hopefully there will be 435 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: more one day, but this one took me years to write, 436 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: and it did only because of the pandemic and everything 437 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 2: like that. I started writing it a long time ago 438 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: and it finally came out and I was really excited 439 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: about it. And it's kind of Maria's book too, because 440 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: she helped me with it so much, because there was 441 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: a lot of behind the scenes things that had to 442 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 2: go on. And it's because we had over one hundred 443 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 2: cases from listeners and followers all over the world that 444 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: were submitting their own pathology and their own photos and 445 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 2: their own stories that we had to interview and email 446 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: and have them sign contracts and this and that. So 447 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 2: it was it was like really crazy and Maria helped 448 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: get that all along while I was writing the book. 449 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 2: And you should check it out because it's really really 450 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: a labor of love. And if you love this podcast, 451 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 2: you will love the book. 452 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: Let's not forget. The most important part of the book 453 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: was the spreadsheets, so getting you know. 454 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 2: I hate your spreads feet so bad. 455 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: I love spreadsheets. I actually feel like my shirt today 456 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: is giving a little bit of Excel spreadsheet. 457 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: So wow, you're you're like, really a dork. 458 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: I am a dork, but that's why we wrote a book. 459 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: So all right, you guys can visit thedoormatter dot com 460 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: splash book for more info. You could get a signed 461 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: book plate. You know, it's gonna be an awesome holiday gift. 462 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: Those are coming up. We are huge Christmas people, so 463 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: get ready because we're gonna start pushing it as a Christmas. 464 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: Present for the next three months. So see there. And 465 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: when you get the book plate, you can put a 466 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: note that says that I will write I'll sign it 467 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: and I'll write a little note to somebody. We've had 468 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 2: a couple weird ones, yeah, real weird ones, but I'll. 469 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: As long as it's not anything that's super offensive, baking 470 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: the law or yeah, just like something that I'm just like, 471 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm not writing out. 472 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 2: I don't think that that's happened yet right now, it hasn't. 473 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: We haven't had to turn down any yet, but there 474 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: have been some of them. 475 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: I've been very weird and I'm like, what, Like, I'm 476 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: seriously like, what the fuck does this mean? Right now? 477 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: Like am I am? I saying? You know, it's like 478 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: an urban dictionary thing. That you're like, am I saying 479 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 2: something really fresh that all the kids understand that I 480 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: don't understand. So, but yeah, check it out. It's awesome. 481 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: This next one was submitted by a listener. So this 482 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: listener and her husband did a DNA hit a couple 483 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: of years ago. After they got their results, they got 484 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: a couple hits, so her husband started doing his own research. 485 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,239 Speaker 1: So as he's going through these records, he you know, 486 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: doesn't really find anything interesting at first, and his whole 487 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: family seems to be pretty normal until he comes upon 488 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: this newspaper article that his uncle blew himself up in 489 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: the twenties. Yes, so she finds this article, which is 490 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: so cool, and it just says that this guy, it 491 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: seems like he was inside an automobile store that sells 492 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: like I would think it would be like Pep Boy 493 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: or something. 494 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: It sounds like a store like that. And they were 495 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: in the back and they had this souvenir shell from 496 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 2: France and the people were saying, Eh, what if it's active, 497 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 2: don't touch it. And then he was like, what, it's 498 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 2: a dud. Yeah. 499 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: He specifically kept saying it was a dud, yeah until 500 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: it went. 501 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 2: Off, and for until it went off and killed him 502 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: and injured his two friends that were standing nearby. 503 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: So so they said it was a souvenir from overseas. Yeah, 504 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: and then it happened in the automobile accessory store. I 505 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 1: mean this happened in nineteen twenty, so this has to 506 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: be some early version of pet Boys, as you were saying. 507 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 2: But it's super. I love more that the listener was 508 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: saying that maybe her husband has acquired this family member's 509 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: brain cells. Sometimes she thinks that that was the best 510 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 2: part of the email. 511 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: Really, yeah, I love that, And she included the newspaper 512 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: article showing it's it's super. It's a cool family artifact 513 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: to have, even though it's like kind of a wild story. 514 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: And yeah, some people, ohah, totally say and hang that up. 515 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: That would be like, yeah, that's awesome, all right. This 516 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: next one is truly unbelievable. In northern Italy, a seventy 517 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: four year old man owned a cheese factory, so he 518 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: and his fifty year old son had gone to the 519 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: facility after an alarm went off with one of the machines. 520 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: So after they fixed the issue, the son left the 521 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: father to go restart the machine. Heard a very loud, 522 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: crashy noise. So, as it turns out, a thirty foot 523 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: high shelf in the warehouse broke, causing this domino effect 524 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: where fifteen thousand wheels of cheese crumbled to the ground 525 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: and crushed the guy. 526 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 2: How outrageous is that? Yeah, I mean I never heard 527 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 2: about this story. It seemed it happened last year, right, Yeah, 528 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 2: so I feel like this would have been something that 529 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: would have been prime gross for material, but I didn't 530 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: hear about it when it happened, and I just came 531 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 2: across the story and thought, like jeez, And it said 532 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: it took firefighters like twelve hours. Imagine. I keep thinking 533 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 2: about this, like Gabe showing up to a scene and 534 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 2: all of him and his friends like having the rab 535 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: these giant wheels of cheese and move them all over, 536 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 2: fifteen thousand of them, Like. 537 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: Well I did not, I did some meth So. They 538 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: said approximately fifteen thousand wheels of this cheese fell and 539 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: they each weighed approximately forty pounds, So that's like around 540 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: six hundred thousand pounds of cheese that fell. I mean, 541 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: it's like so horrible. Of course, it took them so long. 542 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: They said it was over seven million dollars worth of 543 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: damage to the facility, the machine, all the cheese was lost. 544 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: You know, obviously the guy got crushed to death, so. 545 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 2: The cheese was lost. 546 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: They couldn't have just like, well, it probably picked it 547 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: up and moved it to a refrigerator or wherever somewhere. 548 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: Do you think it potentially had, you know, like bodily 549 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: fluids on it from crushing a human. 550 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: Ones at the bottom, but the ones at the top 551 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 2: are so good. 552 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that they're safe to keep serving. Oh 553 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: my god involved in it. 554 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: If there were fifteen thousand of them, there's probably like 555 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: four of them that had blood on the rest of 556 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: them were totally fine. This is the same. Aren't they 557 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 2: covered in like wax and shit? Anyway? 558 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: Come on, it was grana padano, a parmesan like cheese. 559 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: Yes, so they were like bricks. They were really happy. 560 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 2: Would they say one weighed forty pounds each? Yeah? I 561 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: believe that. Yeah. Speaking of there's a restaurant that you've 562 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 2: never been to in Atlantic City and they use they 563 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 2: have one of those big wheels of cheese, right m 564 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 2: And they put boiling hot pasta in the wheel of 565 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: cheese and make homemade fetuccini alfredo right at the table side. Yum. 566 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: I know. 567 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: I mean this was prior to my gluten free days, 568 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: but like, how amazing is that it? Like the hot 569 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 2: pasta makes the cheese melt as they're making it right there. 570 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: So I don't think I've annoyingly told everybody that I 571 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: started making sour dough bread and it hasn't well, I 572 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: haven't really had a bad reaction to it. 573 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: Of you, no, but I didn't really have it yet. 574 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 1: Give you like half a loaf last week. Her idea 575 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: of not having a lot is eating half a loaf 576 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: of bread. Yes, but yeah, I've been doing the long 577 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: fermentation and it's been working pretty good and it's nice 578 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: to have a normal tasting bread again. So all right, anyway, 579 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: let's get onto this last one speaking of cheese, called 580 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: cheese burrito. So in Germany, a forty year old man 581 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: did not come to work for a few days, which 582 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: was very unusual for him. So after not being able 583 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: to get in touch with him via phone, the police 584 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: were called to do a welfare check. So they got 585 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: to his apartment on the thirteenth floor of this high 586 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: rise and they found his body crouched up next to 587 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: a radiator. But this scene was really unusual. 588 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: It's this is probably one of the most outrageous scenes 589 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 2: that anyone has ever been to. So first, the guy is, 590 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 2: as Maria said, he's crouched over next to a radiator, 591 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: and he's wearing a full on like swimsuit like good, 592 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 2: like a wet suit like the like going yes with 593 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: including socks. Yes. 594 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: So they lay him out and you know when they're 595 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: going to start doing the autopsy to see how he died, 596 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: even though he had a plastic bag over his head, 597 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: so clearly that has something to do with it, right, Yeah, 598 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: They take off this wet suit and underneath that he 599 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: has on a raincoat and plastic bags wrapped around his feet. 600 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: So this is under the wet suit. This is under 601 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: the wet suit. So then they take off the raincoat 602 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: and then they see the most bizarre shit ever. This 603 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: guy is wearing almost a full body like leotard thing 604 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: that's made out of sheer like stockings, a shirt and 605 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: leggings that are made out of think about like stockings 606 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: or pantyhose, and underneath, wrapped around his entire body are 607 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: hundreds of slices of cheese. Yes, like cheese that's now 608 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: like kind of melted and congealed together because of the 609 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: heat coming off of his body. 610 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, which, when you first see the pictures of this guy, 611 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,719 Speaker 1: you're just like, I don't even understand how this happened 612 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: because it literally looks like all this cheese was like 613 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: perfectly molded to his body. But obviously you're like his body, 614 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: he just melted them all together into this one giant 615 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: like sheet around his tor sho. It's nuts, it's. 616 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 2: So it is so weird and so so to see 617 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 2: an investigation and everything that. So they came up with 618 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: the determination that his manner of death was accidental and 619 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 2: the cause was because he did auto erotic asphyxiation. So 620 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: we talked about that a couple weeks ago when we 621 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: were talking about that bizarre scene of that guy that 622 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: was hanging from his doorknob and his mom found him 623 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 2: and he was he was looking at some unusual pornography, 624 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: and we did talk about in those cases that there's 625 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 2: usually some kind of a sexual fetish that might key 626 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: off the investigators that that's what's happening there. So they 627 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: did find some pornography that had pictures of women wearing 628 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: plastic outfits. I don't know what that's about. 629 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, did they were they referring to 630 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: like latex clothing or like, like. 631 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: I don't know what was going on. But the whole 632 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 2: point of autoerotic asseixiation is because it's supposed to increase 633 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: the experience when you have an orgasm. And I guess 634 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: I guess the question that I have here as well, 635 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 2: like why would you consider that autoerotic asseixiation if he 636 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 2: wasn't having an orgasm at the time. It's kind of weird, 637 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 2: Like there's no mention that there was any part of 638 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: this outfit that he had on that his penis was 639 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: exposed and he was doing. 640 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: That, I thought, so, I thought that that was a 641 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: little weird. I thought that they had mentioned that there 642 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: had been cheese on his genitals as well. 643 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,479 Speaker 2: Oh yeah there was, but he wasn't touching it. So 644 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what. I'm not sure what he was doing. 645 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if maybe there was a cheese squeeze 646 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: or something. 647 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: I don't know what was happening there. Geeze squeeze. Listen. 648 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 2: This case has like blown my mind because of course, 649 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, when I'm looking at this. As a person 650 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: that likes to investigate this kind of stuff, my first 651 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: thing is like, what's the significance of the cheese? Okay? 652 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 2: And I got down a hole today when I was looking. Okay, Okay, 653 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 2: there is something called a case so sexual what is it? 654 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: All right? 655 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: So explain this for people that have a sexual desire 656 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: and fantasy to either have sex with cheese or are 657 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:56,239 Speaker 2: aroused by cheese. Okay, So there's a Reddit community. Of 658 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 2: course there's only twenty eight, which is reassuring at least, 659 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 2: but they're but twenty eight people is a lot of people. 660 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: Do you think twenty eight people are all interested in 661 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: having sex with cheese? Or do you think five people 662 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: are interested in having sex with cheese? And the rest 663 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: of the people are like, I gotta fucking keep up 664 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: with this thing. 665 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 2: But I mean, I want to keep up with this thing. 666 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: I have to tell you about I. 667 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: This is a couple of the posts that I found 668 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: on this because because I was and the best was like, 669 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: I was copying. 670 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,439 Speaker 2: And pasting them and sending them the Gabe and. 671 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: He's probably like, what the fuck are you even talking 672 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: about right now? All right? 673 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 2: This one said it was actually my best friend who 674 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 2: introduced me to it. When we discovered that we were 675 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 2: both by curious, we started having a sexual relationship, and 676 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 2: after a few months he told me being sexually attracted. 677 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: He was asking if he was sexually attracted to cheese 678 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 2: and saying that he was sexually attracted to cheese as well. 679 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 2: He said that he thought it was weird at first, 680 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 2: but gave it a try and immediately loved it from 681 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 2: the get go, from the feeling to the smell. And 682 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: since cheese was this person's favorite food since childhood, it 683 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 2: helped them experience it and they enjoyed it. So he 684 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 2: decided to do it again the next day and said 685 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: he masturbated with a slice of Gouda. By the way, 686 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 2: Guda comes up often as the cheese. 687 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: I was literally gonna ask if there was a cheese 688 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: you saw that these people preferred, because this gentleman we're 689 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: referring to in our story looks like he had a 690 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: bunch of Kraft singles melted into one big blob. 691 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 2: It's like it's like Craft singles or Velveta singles, like 692 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 2: they're all it's like a very specific that fake orange cheese. 693 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: Because I feel like if you're you know having like 694 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: a breathe that's a little messy, right, So are you 695 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 1: wanting a messy cheese or firm cheese? 696 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 2: Guda is the one that comes up, which is interesting, 697 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 2: but it just said they you know that. So this 698 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 2: person's saying that they still sleep with their friend regularly, 699 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 2: but sometimes they use cheese mostly for hand jobs. But 700 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 2: they actually have had where they've had sex with a 701 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 2: goodle wheel. 702 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: Oh the wheel, the wheel comes back. There's another one. 703 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 1: I don't even want to go over all of them 704 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: because it's just so crazy, but just oh, I had 705 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: this attraction to cheese. 706 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 2: It started as a child. I imagine girls turning into 707 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 2: cheese statues or being transformed into a beautiful girl cheese 708 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 2: statue myself, Like what do you find that it's mostly males? 709 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,439 Speaker 2: It seems like it was mostly males. And they were 710 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 2: talking about other fetishes such as I don't even want 711 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 2: to know if I want to say these out loud 712 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 2: because they might be really terrible, wamasfr and food TF. 713 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 2: I feel the soft cheese and I've definitely dunked myself 714 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 2: in a few times. 715 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: Like what, Well, there's definitely a fetish for everything, and 716 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: you'll especially learn everything you need to know about it 717 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: on Reddit, because there is truly a Reddit page for 718 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: everything in existence. 719 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 2: Eight people are like, yeah, I'm this is good. This 720 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 2: is great that I found this because I'm sexually attracted 721 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 2: to cheese too, and it makes me feel like less weird. 722 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 1: I do find it so so this is interesting because 723 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: it pertains to a conversation I with Lilian yesterday, because 724 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: Lilian was asking me something about the SIMS yesterday and 725 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: I said I had to look something up on Reddit 726 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 1: for her about the SIMS. And then she said, is 727 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: it read at a really horrible place? And I said, 728 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: it's either the worst place in the world or the 729 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: best place in the world. It depends what you're looking for. 730 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: So I feel like. 731 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 2: It say, for me, it was the best place in 732 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 2: the world. I was like, I could read this shit 733 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 2: all day. It was pretty interesting, and everybody she will 734 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: read it all night. I don't. I just don't like, 735 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 2: are people lying? Is this? 736 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: Like? 737 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 2: Are they is this? Just like if I go on 738 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 2: there and make it like a fake I need to 739 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 2: make a fake account. 740 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 1: I would say twenty five percent of those people probably 741 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: actually are sexually attracted to cheese, while the rest are 742 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: like I have to watch what goes down in this 743 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: group chat. 744 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 2: What and and what's the point of the wrapping of 745 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 2: the cheese around the entire body. 746 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: It's just I don't know what this guy was doing 747 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: like this. I don't either, and the and the whole 748 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: you know, it was written by a medical journal and 749 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: it's in German, so I got out of it what 750 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,280 Speaker 1: I could get out of it as far as facts, 751 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: But I am curious about more of of the of 752 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: the story, to be honest, because it is so weird. 753 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: I feel like if you see the pictures without the context, 754 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 1: it's kind of confusing because it's the same color as 755 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: like fat. Is that correct to say, like, yeah, it's open, 756 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: it kind of is. 757 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 2: It's it's like a weird yellow orange color. Yeah. 758 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: So when I first saw the pictures without reading the story, 759 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: I was confuse what was going on because I was like, 760 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: why is all of his fat like on the outside 761 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: of his body? But no, it was just like American 762 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 1: cheese slices. The pictures are so outrageous, Yeah, they really are. Well, 763 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: if you guys have a shocking story, we would love 764 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: to hear it. We love the user submitted ones more 765 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: than anything, and it doesn't even have to be a 766 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: personal experience like you know, the one we read earlier 767 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: in the episode. It could be a link to a 768 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: story you've seen too, like this one. So you could 769 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: submit that to stories at mothernosdepth dot com and we 770 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: will read them on air. 771 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 2: Yes, please do. I mean, I don't know if you're 772 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 2: ever gonna top this one, but the best part about 773 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 2: this show, in this career is that there's just always 774 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 2: something more outrageous around the corner. 775 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: Literally every week we say you can't top this one, 776 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: and then two minutes after we record, we're like, oh, 777 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: here's an even worse story. 778 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 2: So there. I'd like to know if any of you 779 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 2: have a cheese fetish and if you have checked out 780 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 2: the cheese caso sexual page on on Reddit apparently. 781 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, if you didn't know about it and you 782 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: are attracted to cheese, there is a whole community for 783 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: you out there. 784 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 2: So go you. 785 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: We'll see you later in the week with Pathology in 786 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: the news, Saya, have a good night. 787 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Mother nos Death. As a reminder, 788 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 2: my training is as a pathologist's assistant. I have a 789 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 2: master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education. 790 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 2: I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed 791 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 2: or treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of 792 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:31,720 Speaker 2: a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website, and social 793 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 2: media accounts are designed to educate and inform people based 794 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 2: on my experience working in pathology, so they can make 795 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 2: healthier decisions regarding their life and well being. Always remember 796 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,240 Speaker 2: that science is changing every day and the opinions expressed 797 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,919 Speaker 2: in this episode are based on my knowledge of those 798 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 2: subjects at the time of publication. If you are having 799 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 2: a medical problem, have a medical question, or having a 800 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 2: medical emergency, please connot attack your physician or visit an 801 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 2: urgent care center, emergency room, or hospital. Please rate, review, 802 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 2: and subscribe to Mother Knows Death on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, 803 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 2: or anywhere you get podcasts. Thanks