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Speaker 1: Who Do Who. Special announcement alert, I repeat special announcement alert.

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Speaker 1: If you live in the city of San Francisco, California,

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Speaker 1: we are doing a big, jam packed Stradio Lab live

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Speaker 1: show on Friday, January seventeenth at Cobbs Comedy Club as

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Speaker 1: part of SF's Sketch Fest. We cannot wait to see you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Tickets are available in our Instagram bios and on linktred

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Speaker 1: We cannot wait to see you. We can't wait to

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Speaker 1: be in San Francisco in January and escape the frigid

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles weather for Sam and we can't wait to

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Speaker 1: see you January seventeenth at Cobbs Comedy Club, part of

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Speaker 1: SF Sketch Fest. See you there and enjoy the show.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Episode starts now of Patreon exclusive but not exclusive

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Speaker 2: because I think we're gonna release it for everyone.

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Speaker 1: Patreon starts now of what episode starts now with Patreon.

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Speaker 2: Exclusive episodere exclusive that we're actually good knowingly going to unlock,

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Speaker 2: so it's not exclusive.

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Speaker 1: How dare you no? It's okay, I can start over listen.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing we are. We have two episodes that

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Speaker 1: of course, and it would be so unfair to a

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Speaker 1: guest to release their original episode on those dates because

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Speaker 1: very few people listen. So you know, we gotta do

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Speaker 1: some re releases. We got to do some Patreon releases.

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Speaker 2: We were going to just do a re release and

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Speaker 2: then we were like, well, we could just put a

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Speaker 2: Patreon it there.

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Speaker 1: Let's do a Patreon Oh please, everyone likes a call

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Speaker 1: in show for crying out loud.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling I'm feeling.

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Speaker 1: Cozy woesy today. You know, it's it is. This will

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Speaker 1: be one of those amazing episodes where it gets dark

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Speaker 1: as I'm recording, which everyone loves, and I will slowly

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Speaker 1: be sort of less and less well lit until I

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Speaker 1: decide to turn on a lamp that somehow has like

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Speaker 1: prison like like a prison like light cast on my face. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I will be once again Pamela Anderson Stuns without

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Speaker 1: makeup at the U a press screening of the Last

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Speaker 1: Showgirl in Detroit.

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Speaker 2: The way that that is like such shorthand now like

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Speaker 2: when I'm like last night, I was trying to put

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Speaker 2: together an outfit and I was like, I like it,

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Speaker 2: but it's not Sam Stun's a new photo, like, and

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I have to say I've been feeling less. I've

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Speaker 1: been feeling less and less George Stun's and recently I

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Speaker 1: kind of think there's something about the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, well, it's up, but up or rap up

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Speaker 1: in terms of my own appearance, and yeah, like I

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Speaker 1: kind of am not putting effort and I'm like, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five there's gonna be some stunning happening. Do you

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Speaker 1: have any goals? Actually, yes, I do. Oh really, I

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Speaker 1: mean we could do yeah, we could do one year's

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Speaker 1: I actually have a goal, which is I want to

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Speaker 1: write every day.

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Speaker 1: I think it's simple enough. It's also flexible. Listen if

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Speaker 1: have to be that. I'm working on my big opus. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I think, uh, having a you know, really committing

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Speaker 1: And I would like to not be like that.

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Speaker 2: No, that makes sense. I don't have one yet. It's

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Speaker 2: I literally don't know where else to find extra time,

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Speaker 1: No, I know it's it's sort of the most cliche

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Speaker 2: Like I've sort of been like anything for you just

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Speaker 1: No, there's the pendulum does swing kind of depending on

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Speaker 1: not gonna do hustle culture. I'm actually going to prioritize

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Speaker 2: But the way, like the way sitting next to me,

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Speaker 1: No, I completely agree. I have a you know, I

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Speaker 1: in two days, and of course I put literally everything

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Speaker 1: I have to you know, buy Christmas presents for every

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Speaker 2: This is like, so you coded though, like I know,

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Speaker 2: I had a thought. Okay, I don't mean this to

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Speaker 2: think sometimes you believe procrastination is real, Like you are like, well,

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Speaker 2: where I'm like, but you still have to do it,

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Speaker 2: like the story telling yourself stories where to Live. If

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Speaker 2: it tomorrow. Is you're very good at believing that. You're

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Speaker 2: like where I'm like, well, if I have to if

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Speaker 2: well do it now.

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Speaker 1: No, I And of course you are.

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Speaker 2: But it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, then I will say then I also am

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Speaker 1: actually very in my own way self sacrificing when it

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Speaker 1: I will, you know, cancel important plans to do something

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Speaker 2: Totally.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to like miss a deadline necessarily. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And then of course that makes me feel even more

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Speaker 1: that I'm in, Like, and then suddenly I'm like, God,

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Speaker 2: And then the pendulums, I'll swing and the next week

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Speaker 2: you're going out all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Well, sorry to drag you right up top.

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Speaker 1: I didn't mean to no, no, no, Well, we thought

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Speaker 1: it would be a fun thing to do to take

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Speaker 1: some calls that have been absolutely burning a hole in

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Speaker 1: our inbox. We are you laughing at?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Sorry, the transition's tough.

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Speaker 1: Shall we Let's okay, so let's take some calls.

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Speaker 2: Let's take some calls our listeners, O, dear listeners.

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Speaker 1: You know, just treminder you can always call it three

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Speaker 1: eight five gay guys. And we listen to literally every call.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna play every call, but we do listen

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Speaker 1: to every call, especially the ones that are over three

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Speaker 1: this is Mark again, as I was saying.

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Speaker 2: We had a three minute long call.

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Speaker 1: Oh, there's many because that's when it cuts off.

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Speaker 5: Hello.

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Speaker 2: I like your podcast a lot. I was wondering if.

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Speaker 4: You guys have ever considered that you're like bizarro version

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Speaker 4: of Uncle Jesse and Uncle Joey, because you're like Greek

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Speaker 4: and Midwestern, respectively. I didn't get much further than that,

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Speaker 4: but my husband didn't lull his eyes when I brought

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Speaker 4: it up, So I love youa.

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Speaker 1: I just thought this was a funny call. And then

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Speaker 1: I was like, which one is Joey and it's Dave Coolier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I see it, and so it's.

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Speaker 1: Like John Stamos and Dave Coolier and I was like, wait,

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Speaker 1: this actually kind of not to say that we physically

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Speaker 1: resemble them that much, but I definitely see the parallel

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Speaker 1: and I could see that being maybe a new kind

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Speaker 2: I love the visual. I see it very clearly. And

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Speaker 2: is it perfect? Of course not, but nothing nothing is,

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Speaker 2: And I think it's it's fun. It's our own sort

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Speaker 2: of three tickets to challengers. Please you can see it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, next call I Sam and George.

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Speaker 6: This is Eric A calling, and I am wondering if

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Speaker 6: you two could tell me whether you think we are

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Speaker 6: in an optimism deficit or an earnestness deficit, because I

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Speaker 6: think that's what our country is experiencing.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to hear your thoughts, and this is a

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Speaker 3: deep cut, but since I'm here, George, what about Bob

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Speaker 3: Sippolski's class was so inspiring to you that you kept

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Speaker 3: the Zebra's book wondering and asking for a friend?

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Speaker 6: Bye?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Are we in an optimism deficit or an earnestness deficit?

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Speaker 1: I know it feels like we've answered this question before,

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Speaker 1: but I want to tackle it head on.

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Speaker 2: I have one question about this question. Are these two

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Speaker 1: It will happen next time the bendulum swings back. We

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Speaker 7: Hi Sam and George, first time caller. I have emails

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Speaker 7: before I was on like one of the first Earnestness

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Speaker 7: Bonanzas a long time ago. Anyway, this is not related

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Speaker 8: Anyway, move on.

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Speaker 7: I want to sue something creative, but I live in

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Speaker 9: Is it worth it?

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Speaker 7: Like that's expensive. It's so much cheaper to live here anyway.

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Speaker 7: Oh that cheeto and chief, thank you, thank you for

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you take this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you should still do it, of course, of course.

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Speaker 1: Of course you should do, dumb bitch do Your creative

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Speaker 2: I mean, honey, go to the damn open mic. It'll

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Speaker 1: We are booking our travel. We're booking our flight to Detroit,

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Speaker 1: People that are shout out. People that are selling ceramics

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exploring.

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Speaker 1: Oh this is a fun one.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Sam and George Mary fucked kill Santa the Grinch

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Speaker 2: Thanks by this feels quite easy to me. And I'm

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Speaker 1: Literal, right, No, I know what you're gonna say, kill

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Speaker 2: I actually would marry Frosty the Snowman and I would

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Speaker 2: fuck Santa. Oh I see yeah, because I don't I

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Speaker 2: what was it? Like? Like that sounds fun to like

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Speaker 2: if I were Desanta, it would be like all about

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Speaker 4: Yea.

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Speaker 2: And the Grinch, I'm just like, I don't care how

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Speaker 1: Totally.

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Speaker 2: So how do you.

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Speaker 1: Feel it's funny? I need to investigate this, But my

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Speaker 1: And I think there's something about the Grinch being so

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Speaker 2: No, but it's incredible.

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Speaker 1: That said, I have to say, you know, on a

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's ugly, he's on a track.

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Speaker 1: hungry today. I totally get where you're coming from. And

440
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 1: of course Frosty would be such a sweet, caring husband

441
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: and you would just have this amazing middle class life

442
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: in a cabin in the snow. But there's something. I

443
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: think it's the end of the year. I think it's

444
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: me setting years resolutions. I'm like, I want to be

445
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: the first lady.

446
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 2: I'll say North Pole, I'll say, you're present hungry. You're

447
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 2: trying to marry the man that makes and gives all

448
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: the presents.

449
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm present hungry. And you know what else I want

450
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: to be. I want to be a gay mister Clause,

451
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: like a gay Missus Clause. And I want my thing

452
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: to be like doing charity work and hosting galas and

453
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 1: I see it, you know, kissing babies and shaking people's

454
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: hands and honestly being like on the cover of Out

455
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 1: magazine and the Advocate as like the first game missus Claw.

456
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: That would be amazing. Also, I imagine I'm playing out

457
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 2: the scenario and like on Christmas Eve, Santa's like, Okay,

458
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: I have to go do my thing. You know, my

459
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 2: ass is getting on scruff Sniffies, grinder, Rowler, all everything,

460
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: and my phone is hot as hell, and I'm saying

461
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 2: who is nearby? Who is nearby? I have one night.

462
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: If you don't think I'm fucking the elves, you're living

463
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:38,959
Speaker 1: in a dream world. There's just I think what it

464
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 1: is is like the Santa world is more developed. I mean,

465
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: the Grinch world is also developed, but you obviously don't

466
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 1: want to be married to the Grinch. But the Santa

467
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: world is so developed that you're like, oh, fun, it's Christmas.

468
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 2: I like that. I think that's nice, and I like

469
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 2: that we have different answers. Yeah, all right, before we can,

470
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 2: I say something please, I'm kind of Grinch coded this year. Really,

471
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 2: I'm like I hate presents. I'm like turning into this

472
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 2: like crank about Christmas in a way that is weird

473
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 2: where I like the vibe. I like like jingle bells

474
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 2: and snow falling and lights, but I'm like I hate presence.

475
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm right there with you.

476
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: Present. It's like pissing me off that I have to

477
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 2: do this and no one is going to even like really,

478
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: it's not like you're getting something for a child and

479
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 2: they're like, oh my God, this is amazing. You're just like, Okay,

480
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: I found the shirt. Do you like it?

481
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? It is making me violently angry this year.

482
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: I hate it.

483
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 1: I am so frustrated. And it also there is this

484
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: part in the movie Friends with Money where Frances McDormand

485
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: I think, is sort of in a depression and she

486
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: has stopped shampooing her hair and she has this speech

487
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 1: where she's like, I just realized, Like I just shampoo it,

488
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: then it gets dirty. I shampoo it, then it gets dirty.

489
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: Like what is the point of just like doing this

490
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life? And that is kind

491
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: of how I'm feeling about presence, where I'm like, I, actually,

492
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 1: I will end it all if I have to keep

493
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: doing this for the rest of my life every year,

494
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: doing this dance of like basically everyone thinks it's annoying,

495
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: but you have to keep doing it, and of course

496
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: you don't want to be the only one not bringing presence.

497
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: I just I really want to get to a place

498
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: where it's just natural to give your friends presents and

499
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: do thoughtful things for your friends and family year round,

500
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: and you don't have to do this like Big Dog

501
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: and Pony Show once.

502
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 2: Basically all I want is like buy dinner, Like can

503
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: we all just like take turns buying dinner and that's

504
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: like it like bring a nice bottle of something over,

505
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: bring up fancy candle, like I'm sick by something. When

506
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: you're traveling, Yes, buy me a funny T shirt when

507
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: you're in Paris.

508
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's a or I don't know. On the

509
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: other hand, when you do have a perfect gift for someone,

510
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: it's so rewarding, but you just want to be like, Okay,

511
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 1: well then let's do that. Let's just do the good part. Yeah,

512
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: if I will, if I have something in mind for

513
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: someone that's great, then also have to buy five cardigans

514
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: for no reason.

515
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 2: It's it's it's just too much.

516
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: No, I completely agree, And I'm like, especially this year

517
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: that I'm traveling, just like having to think of which

518
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: gifts can I buy that actually fit in a suitcase,

519
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: and which gifts can I buy in my travels to

520
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: bring back.

521
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: I have the same thing, not international, but still annoying

522
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: as fuck.

523
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's it's also I have to say, I

524
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: feel like there was this era where people would constantly

525
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: talk about how gift giving, how holiday gift giving is

526
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: such a bacchan all of consumerism and how you know

527
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: there are ways to be more sustainable about bah blah blah,

528
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: and then everyone just sort of like let go of

529
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: that notion. Yeah, you know what I mean, like it

530
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: now or maybe that is just a matter of our age,

531
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: Like that's something you think of when you're like in

532
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: your team's twenties, and then you get to your thirties

533
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, I gotta buy you know, my

534
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: friend a baby gift because you just had a baby.

535
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I even thinking about that. I'm like, I have

536
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 2: like what feels like one million family members, and like

537
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: we only have two like little babies in our family,

538
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: And so I'm like, do we all get that? Like

539
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: it's fun to buy babies things? But it's like, are

540
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 2: you guys gonna end up with like a pile of

541
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: shit and be like annoyed?

542
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's confusing. Here's what I'll say. You know, the

543
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: trope of successful absent father who has his assistant by gifts.

544
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

545
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm officially forgiving that tripe. I think I think too

546
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: that is okay, you know what I mean, Like, I'm like,

547
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: guess what, there are other things that I don't forgive

548
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: him for I mean, he should show up to the recital.

549
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: He should be.

550
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: There at the soccer game.

551
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: Be there at the soccer game. He should you know,

552
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: be considerate of his wives, his wife's needs and not

553
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: constantly undermine her. But like, if you have an assistant,

554
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: by all means, use them to buy your Christmas gift.

555
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I literally want to be that. Now I'm like,

556
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: who will do my shopping for me? This is like,

557
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: so basically my whole afternoon is going to ruin because

558
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be online and nothing. I'm not gonna like anything,

559
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna have to pull the trigger on something

560
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: and just be like, sorry, I hope you like it.

561
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: The online thing. I hate this actually hate the online

562
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: thing is also I'm like, they should shut down the

563
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: internet for the month of December and that because guess what,

564
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: limitations are productive? When you have limitations, you make better decisions.

565
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: Only brick and mortar holiday shops shut down the internet.

566
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 1: Shut down the internet for December. The one yes, we

567
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: can keep giving gifts if everyone insists, But the one

568
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: rule is it has to be from a boutique.

569
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: Not to beat New York versus LA again, but in

570
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: La you can't just go You have to go to

571
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 2: a mall if you want to shop. And it's like

572
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: in New York you have this like romantic like, oh

573
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: is it gonna snow today. I'm like, I'm walking through

574
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: Williamsburg and going into all the stores and finding the

575
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: perfect thing, and every place has a curated Christmas playlist

576
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: and you're like, this is so like there's something a

577
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: little playful about it. Yeah. And here I'm just like,

578
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: I'm logging onto jcru dot com. It is time to

579
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: see what they have. I will look up gift guide

580
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: for witmen, Gift guide for men, like hoping that something

581
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: feels interesting. I hate it.

582
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: No, it's also I just want to say, the false

583
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: promise of a Christmas market, do not piss on me

584
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: and tell me it's training God, not a single thing

585
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: in a Christmas market is worthy of my money in

586
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: any way.

587
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: We should have a Christmas little and then we should

588
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: vomb it because little that stuff is usable as a gift.

589
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: I swear to God, why would I want like a

590
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: little piece of wood that has a carving on it?

591
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: And it says like, nephew, shut shut up the unit.

592
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: There is nothing worse than the Union Square a Christmas market.

593
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: Every year, I think I'm going to go in and

594
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: like find not even that I'm looking for gifts, obviously,

595
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: but like even find a nice you know, spiced hot

596
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: toddy or something. And somehow every year I come out,

597
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: it's like you know a movie where someone comes out

598
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: of you know, a hurricane or something. It is like,

599
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: my hair is just all over my face, my makeup

600
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: is neared. I don't know where I'm going.

601
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: It's no the Union Square market is actually one of

602
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: the worst in the world. It's crazy that there hasn't

603
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,239
Speaker 2: been an expose on how bad it is.

604
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: You know, it's like owned by some fucking real estate

605
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: company or something like some developer.

606
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: This feels like such a healthy expression of our negative feelings.

607
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: I'm so glad we're popping off.

608
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: I know, I agree, all right, let's care, hey.

609
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 11: George and Sam. My question is, unfortunately about gay marriage,

610
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 11: which you have discussed, is in harony, tacky, and nature.

611
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 11: I am a Mexican and my fiance is Venezuelan. We

612
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 11: haven't booked in New York, thank you so much. And

613
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 11: in terms of tackiness versus chiefanys, we were wondering if

614
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 11: George could give wedding advice when it comes to languages,

615
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 11: and we're gonna get married in Mexico, and do we

616
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 11: do it all in Spanish so there's like a fear

617
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 11: factor for the Americans, or do we treat some English

618
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 11: for it to be inclusive? Were there any Greek components

619
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 11: in your wedding, George, I don't know, trying to make

620
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 11: this as cool as possible with the ingredients that we got,

621
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 11: which are not good anyway, how to think?

622
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: Who knows.

623
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 11: Maybe at this point, if you will still only speak

624
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 11: one language, I think it's, you know, time to grow up.

625
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 11: Sorry Sammy, anyways, is thank you by got your fuck?

626
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: Okay. I don't want to be prescriptive here because I

627
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: don't know the details of your family. To me, my

628
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: main point is just there's nothing more shape than a

629
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: bilingual wedding. Like I actually wanted to have more Greek

630
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: at my wedding, and I even told my mom that

631
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: I wanted her to potentially do a reading in Greek,

632
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: and she was just very matter of factly like why

633
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: people wouldn't understand this? And I was like, got my

634
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: ass again? But I so my aunt officiated as sam

635
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: can attest, and there was there was definitely Greek elements.

636
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: She called me by my Greek name. She did a

637
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: little bit of like explaining like in Greece we say

638
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: this about a wedding, and she would say like one

639
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: Greek word and then explain it in a sort of

640
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: in a very like America melting pot kind of a way.

641
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: And we also had a Jewish elements because Matthews Jewish,

642
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: so there was you know, it felt very like coastal

643
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:49,959
Speaker 1: multi cultural white wedding in that way. If you're if

644
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: you're a Mexican and your boyfriend and your fouancees Venezuela,

645
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: and you're getting married in Mexico, and I think people

646
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: will figure it out.

647
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you had gotten married in Greece, how would

648
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: that have changed? Do you think?

649
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: I just honestly, I can't even tell you because I

650
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: had never even considered that. I mean, I think if

651
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: it was a Greek, if I was straight, I was

652
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: marrying a Greek person, it was Or even if I

653
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: was marrying an American person, if I was straight and

654
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: I was getting married in Greece, it would probably be

655
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: in a church, and it would probably be like more traditional,

656
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: and there's less, there's fewer opportunities for customization because it's

657
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: just like it's a every wedding is the same, Like

658
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: there's just like certain things that have to be said,

659
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: there are certain traditions that have to be done, and

660
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: then I'm sure the toast would have been like half

661
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: in English, half in Greek and like whatever. But I

662
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: think the wedding itself, people would not have cared that

663
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: it was in Greek because it's basically the equivalent of

664
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: being in like ancient Greek, because you're in a church.

665
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: But I I'm trying to think, you know, I went

666
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: to I went to a lesbian wedding in Mexico. As

667
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: everyone knows lesbian.

668
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: Wedding that rocked the podcast world.

669
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: I will say that was both brides were Spanish speakers,

670
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: but that was all in English, and I have to

671
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: say I appreciated it, of course, because I could understand

672
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: everything that was being said and it was a very

673
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: multicultural crowd. But what I have also founded really chic

674
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: if it was all in Spanish, yeah, and I would

675
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: have actually kind of loved that. So my current mood

676
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: tells me lean into Spanish. But I also think as

677
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: long as you love one another. And as long as

678
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: your families are there and everyone is happy and healthy,

679
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: you really can't go wrong.

680
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 2: Beautiful.

681
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Speaker 1: Do you were there things at my wedding, Sam that

682
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: you were like, I want to where I don't want

683
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: to do that at mine? Not to trick you.

684
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, who the hell is your ghosts?

685
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 2: I was like, this wedding's for George. Get your ghosts out,

686
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 2: Show me where this your ghost is and get him

687
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 2: out of here.

688
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

689
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: No, it was. Your wedding was incredibly chic all around.

690
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 2: And in the new year, I'm going to ask.

691
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: You how ooh oh yeah this by the way, this year,

692
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: You're year's asolution is figure this out to plan your

693
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: way out. Yeah, that's your year's resolution. Okay, oh, this

694
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: one is a fun one. By the way, I just

695
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: want to say to everyone, we specifically ask for spicy

696
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: and controversial questions, and our listeners are so sophisticated, well read,

697
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: and absolutely addicted to nuance that every single question is like,

698
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: can you please unpack this philosophical question I just had?

699
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 12: All right, Hi Torton fam, big fan of the podcast.

700
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 12: You guys are truly my comfort listen in these trying times.

701
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 12: I want to ask, how do you think about familiarity

702
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 12: and comfort versus novelty and excitement in your lives? Do

703
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 12: you have a mixed do you value one more than

704
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 12: the others? I'm twenty nine and I recently moved to

705
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 12: Europe for grad school, and I'm now in a long

706
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 12: distance relationship my grad school plans way before my partner

707
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 12: and I started dating last year, but the experience of

708
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 12: it has been pretty challenging, especially for him, which I

709
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 12: think is understandable. But it's gotten me thinking about why

710
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 12: I like seeking out novelty and new experiences. And I

711
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 12: think it's because that's how I feel like I'm personally growing.

712
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 12: But theoretically, I could also find a way to feel

713
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 12: like I'm growing without leaving my partner and moving halfway

714
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 12: around the world, by building community and deepening my relationships

715
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 12: at home. I guess is one better than the other?

716
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 12: Is it selfish of me to prioritize personal growth?

717
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 3: Like this?

718
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 12: Okay, thank you? Excited to hear it.

719
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Speaker 1: That's by interesting question, is yeah, like, how do we

720
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: do we prefer familiarity and comfort over novelty and excitement?

721
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: And how do we conceptualize the place each of those

722
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 1: two things has in our lives.

723
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: I feel like I am it's different. Different segments of

724
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: my life are different. When it like when it comes

725
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 2: to food, it really I really prioritize familiarity and comfort

726
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: in a way that is like almost like I'm like

727
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: selling myself short, like but because like I hate when

728
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: I go to a restaurant and I'm annoyed. It's like,

729
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: one of my least favorite feelings is when like being

730
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: annoyed at like a supposedly nice restaurant, and so like,

731
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: if I'm not if I'm even slightly feeling unstable in

732
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: my life, I'm like, no, I have to go to

733
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: a restaurant I'm familiar with because I just can't do it.

734
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: But that being said, I feel like when it comes

735
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: to other let's say it sometimes sex stuff, I'm like,

736
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, what's new, what's new, what's new, what's fun?

737
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: What's fun? What's fun? Anyway, it's like chill out so interesting,

738
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: So it's hard to tell. What do you think?

739
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: Well, I definitely think, if I may be so bold,

740
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: both of us are into familiarity and comfort when it

741
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: comes to like our primary romantic relationships. I think we're

742
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: both relationship girls. Yes, and I think we really value

743
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: we really like. Yes, we love going out, Yes we

744
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: love exploring, but we love being cozy with our man.

745
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: It's true, and it feels less juicy to talk about,

746
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: so we don't talk about it as much, but it's true.

747
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 1: We love a like Sunday morning of you know, having

748
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 1: having our coffees together. We love a dinner at home.

749
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: We love being with each other's families. To an extent,

750
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: we love we you know, I think like I think

751
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: we like building a home.

752
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we do cancers, not to not to beat that,

753
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: but it's very cancer I will say.

754
00:39:55,080 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: I definitely it's complicated because I want to, like, when

755
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: it comes to art, I seek out the unfamiliar. That's

756
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: like what I want to say about myself. But then

757
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: ultimately it's like I seek out a very specific kind

758
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: of unfamiliar, which is like I want something that feels

759
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: that feels like it would be like written up in

760
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: an art magazine, you know what I mean. Like I'm

761
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: actually not gonna seek out the unfamiliar by you know,

762
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: opening myself up to more fantasy and sci fi for example,

763
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: which is something I've historically never like quite done A

764
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: deep dive on I'm not gonna even with books. It's like,

765
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm very interested in reading new types of books, but

766
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: only within the kind of confines of my own taste.

767
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

768
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Speaker 1: I think as I've gotten older, I've become up slightly

769
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: better about that, But I don't know. And then I

770
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: also I think my thing, here's what I'll say. I

771
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: think my thing with novelty is I get very antsy

772
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: when I'm in the same position for too long. I'm

773
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: like always having a new job. I'm always Before I

774
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: met Matthew, I was always moving. I like move apartments

775
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: every year. When I finished high school, I like immediately

776
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: went to college, like the farthest I could possibly go.

777
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: I if I had a sort of more stable professional life,

778
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: I would definitely travel more. I like feel the need

779
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: to take trips.

780
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: That's interesting.

781
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: So I think in my day to day, Yeah, I

782
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: think big picture, I like stability, but small picture day

783
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: to day, I'm like, oh, I want to wake up

784
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: the next day and like go on a trip.

785
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: That's very interesting. I feel like maybe I'm more towards

786
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 2: the familiar, Like I really like having all my like knowing,

787
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: like I'm obsessed, Like when I was in New York

788
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: I was obsessed with, like I need to find an

789
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 2: apartment that I can stay in for a long time

790
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: because I don't want to have to think about apartments

791
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: or like I want to find like I'm obsessed with

792
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: like finding stability in order to be in like be

793
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 2: able to just like have free freedom in my mind.

794
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: And I think because I want to be a little crazy,

795
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: but I need everything to be I feel like I

796
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 2: can't be crazy until everything's settled, right.

797
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: You need a home base that you can always return

798
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: to so that you can go have your adventures.

799
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even like travel, I like I like going places,

800
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,959
Speaker 2: but it is like it feels like like there's something

801
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: about it, like traveling in excess. I'm like, well, that

802
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: would be wasteful, Like there's something where I'm like, well, yeah,

803
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: I can go on one trip like every three years,

804
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: like which isn't true, like you can just go somewhere, but.

805
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: No, you can, and you can actually do it in

806
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: an affordable way. Like you you know, you develop such

807
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: or I develop such resentment for people that are constantly

808
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: traveling because I'm like, oh, you stupid, rich bitch. And

809
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: then you realize that actually, if you just prioritize it

810
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: and you, and that is where your money goes, rather

811
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: than fucking restaurants and living in New York City. Yeah,

812
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: then there is in fact a way to do it

813
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: on a budget. Yeah yeah, I say next to Q. Yeah,

814
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: let's do next Q. I do think both of us

815
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: feel the push and pull of familiarity and in a

816
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: way that actually often is paralyzed.

817
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: Say that. Damn. I love Collin shows.

818
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: I know it's so fun.

819
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 5: I need some advice. What would you do if you

820
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 5: really like someone, you want to be their friend, but

821
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 5: you despise their partner. Yeah, let me know, excell So.

822
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: This is a tough one. This is a tough one.

823
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: This I'm trying to think who I have in my

824
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: life that's even like this. Okay, I've got one.

825
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: Damn that didn't take that.

826
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 2: It does make it complicated. Yeah, I mean, I think

827
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: the sad part is it will affect the friendship no

828
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 2: matter what. There's no way to avoid it, and it

829
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: just is like you have to sort of compartmentalize a bit.

830
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: This is something straight people are great at. Just to

831
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: bring it back to gay versus straight, there is something

832
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: I when my when a friend of mine starts dating someone,

833
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: I don't like I take it as this like huge

834
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: momentous event that I will have to navigate, and I'm like, okay, guys,

835
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: like let's all get together and figure out what our

836
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: approach is because this is code read, you know. And

837
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: then for straight people, they basically all hate each other's

838
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: husbands off.

839
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: It's like assumed.

840
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: It's like it's assumed, and it's this weird or not weird,

841
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: but this just like unspoken undercurrent that run through everything.

842
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: And in that sense, they're almost, in their own way

843
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 1: more evolved because they can actually like hold two thoughts

844
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: in their brain at the same time. Like imagine dinner

845
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: party that's three straight couples and basically all the wives

846
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: like I think the rest of the husbands are assholes.

847
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: And then all the husbands they have like inappropriate sexual

848
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: feelings towards one wife they think another one is too mouthy.

849
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: He's like, that's a mouthy rod.

850
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: Well, you're pointing something. I think it's almost like a

851
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: technique so that monogamy is enforced because you're like if

852
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: you if your wife like thinks that guy is cool

853
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: and like likes, then she's then they're gonna hook up.

854
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: Like it's like no, you have to dislike your girlfriend's

855
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: husband because because if not, then are you trying to

856
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: steal him?

857
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: Like yeah, no, it's basically just psycho sexual mind games. Yeah, constantly,

858
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: well via conversations about like real estate advocation.

859
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: And this is why it's gave us as straight too,

860
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 2: because if you're hanging out with another gay couple and

861
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: you're like you are vibing with the partner, you can

862
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: almost be like, wait, are we all going to hook up?

863
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: Like so you were like you want to get along

864
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: with everybody.

865
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: I have to say I recently had an experience where

866
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to really anonymize this, but I

867
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: had an experience where I met someone and I was like,

868
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: I like, turn to my friend and I was like,

869
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: do you know who that is? Why does he have

870
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: such an insane energy? And then my friend was like, oh,

871
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: like we're hooking up and like I brought him here?

872
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: I was like what I And I actually genuinely did it.

873
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: I had to. I had to take an off ramp

874
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,439
Speaker 1: off of my like I had to say like two

875
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: more half bitchy things before I could stop. I actually

876
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: found myself being like, sorry, but I can't stop at

877
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: this day, like.

878
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: The breaks have been cut exactly.

879
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: Like I can't just go go right to being like, oh, sorry,

880
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: I was kidding, he's actually great. I was like I

881
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 1: said something. I was like, well, he has a very

882
00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: particular energy. I was just like, sorry, I can't. I can't, like,

883
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: I can't just pretend this isn't real. I already broke

884
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: the seal. I'm sorry, I made my first faux pas.

885
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: I just have to make it clear that this person

886
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: is so often.

887
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 2: I love that you had like double Jeopardy rules where

888
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: you're like, well, already you can't arrest me again. I

889
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: already made the faux pall. Now I'm going to live.

890
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: I could feel myself. I could feel I mean, I

891
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: used to be much worse about things like this when

892
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: I was younger. I would like openly roll my eyes,

893
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: but like, I do feel like I've gotten better, but

894
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: I just couldn't. I don't know, I couldn't. There's also

895
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: something about gay guys. There's just so many of them,

896
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: and you meet them all the time, and you're sort

897
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: of like, life is too short for me to interact

898
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: with this person or so many other gay guys.

899
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: I could be interact I know, life is so short.

900
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: I will say, we're not necessarily giving advice to this

901
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: to this caller. I mean, I think.

902
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: You have to suck it up.

903
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you just have to suck it up, sorry,

904
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: because it's not worth losing a friend over it.

905
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 2: And the more that you dislike this partner, the more

906
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: they're going to fall in love with each other for

907
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: some reason one. So you have to like be chill

908
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,479
Speaker 2: about it and then let it happen on its own.

909
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: And it's okay to occasionally, you know, have some friend

910
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: time that isn't with plus one.

911
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 2: It's great to do that. And sometimes you find little

912
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 2: glimmers of liking that person that sucks, and you're like, well,

913
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: that was fun, that's true.

914
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: I actually had that this is not someone's romantic partner.

915
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: But last night at Max's there's this one person who

916
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 1: I've always found. I'm sort of like, why is everyone

917
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: pretending this person is in our community because I don't

918
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: like them? And then last night I actually had a

919
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: great conversation with him. But I was like, oh, it's

920
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 1: my prejudices.

921
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: Wow, love that. Yeah, that's nice to have happened.

922
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 8: Hi, this is Shannon. I'm calling to ask you if

923
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 8: you got turned into a vampire, how much of your

924
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 8: current lifestyle would have to change and how long do

925
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 8: you think it would take other people to notice feeling

926
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 8: like all the usual like can't go out of the

927
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 8: suddenly you gotta drink blood to live? What would that

928
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 8: change about how.

929
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 9: You're currently living your life? All right, have a good day. Bye.

930
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: Well I think people would notice pretty quick here in

931
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 2: sunny Los Angeles, California.

932
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: Here's my question. Am I allowed to have my laptop

933
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: in my little casket? Because that would definitely make things

934
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: a lot easier if I could, you know, be on

935
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: slack beyond email, potentially read the news while I was

936
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: while I was down there during the day, and then

937
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, at nighttime I'm going to basement.

938
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd really have to focus on the night life.

939
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do think that it would actually be

940
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: an amazing way for me to go out more, which

941
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: is something I've been wanting to do. Yeah, is if

942
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: I just was a vampire?

943
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: Has there been a movie about a vampire who's just

944
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: like a club kid New York?

945
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: I'm sure there has, Yeah, because it much like yeah,

946
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 1: much like our point about how if you live in Detroit,

947
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 1: there are more people than you think that are interested

948
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: in your creative pursuit. There are always more vampire media

949
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 1: properties than you have literally done it. They have explored

950
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: every possible angle. Yeah, and I'm actually sort of like, good, Yeah,

951
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: I like vampires. I'm like, I get why this is

952
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: a kind of like one of these cultural tropes that

953
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: we returned to. I get it more than more than

954
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: a lot of more than like superheroes.

955
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 2: Well, they're literally the sexiness is like built in, Like

956
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 2: vampires are supposed to be sexy, So it's like, okay,

957
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: well that's fun.

958
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: Here's another thing about being a nightlife vampires, Like you

959
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: actually meet so many annoying people when you're out late

960
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: at night that you wouldn't feel bad about eating them.

961
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I think that's a really smart point.

962
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: So I guess it would take a few weeks for

963
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: he will note.

964
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 2: You know, what I've never understood about vampire lore is like,

965
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 2: I understand they want to drink blood and they're like sexy,

966
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: but like, do they have sex? Still?

967
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: Well, if you're watching interview with a gay interview with

968
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: a vampire on a AMC Plus or whatever streaming platform

969
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: it's on, you better believe they're fucking.

970
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: Oh that's good, okay.

971
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: But it you are right though, that like the the

972
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: sensuality comes from the forbidden nature of the touching. It's like, yeah,

973
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: I mean Twilight too. That's literally why it's a warm

974
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: in metaphor because he like, he was like, if I

975
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: come anywhere near you, I will be too tempted to.

976
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 2: Suckle blood issue.

977
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: So but but wait, is that so you're you're asking,

978
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: which I think is an important question for them, is

979
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: the blood sucking the sex?

980
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 2: Sex? Yeah? Like, is it all just a trap in

981
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 2: order to get blood? Or is it? Like, but today

982
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: I actually am horny, didn't want to have sex.

983
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm googling do vampires have sex?

984
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: It's crazy because I can actually see your screen.

985
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yes, vampires can have sex. Okay, well

986
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: that's an AI answer. A vampire's bite is not a

987
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: metaphor for sex. Vampires have sex. Oh, they have grade sex.

988
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: Oh they also need to feed on human blood to survive. Okay,

989
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: so they do both. There you go, Well, that's fun.

990
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: That's fun. That's good to know. I was. I was

991
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: just saying that how much I like, we were saying,

992
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 2: we like that they explore vampires every way, And I'm

993
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 2: actually like, I'm now questioning whether or not that's true

994
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: for me.

995
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: Say more, Well, I'm like.

996
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: I actually, whenever something is a vampire thing, I'm actually

997
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 2: a little bit like I don't want to see that.

998
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 1: Have you seen a girl walks home alone at night? No,

999
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: it's really good, it's a it's a vampire move.

1000
00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1001
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: I here's what I think about virus. I think that

1002
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: the darkness of it makes it so that a lot

1003
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: it weeds out a lot of people who would make

1004
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: super corny art about it.

1005
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, ah, do I believe that.

1006
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: I mean, of course there is a lot of corny

1007
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: art about vampires, but I'm just thinking, like, uh, it's

1008
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: so much easier to make corney art about like.

1009
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1010
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: I was about to say ghosts, but that's not true. Actually,

1011
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: ghosts are way more interesting than vampires because it's about

1012
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: a relationship with death.

1013
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: I feel like vampires it's like it's a very teen esthetic.

1014
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: It's very like like the mood, the gothiness is so teen,

1015
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 2: and then like.

1016
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: It's Emily the strange.

1017
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then like the horniness that's like not really horny,

1018
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: where it's like I shouldn't I should, I shouldn't I should.

1019
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: That's very teen, even like being like I have fangs

1020
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 2: is so like MySpace coded in a way.

1021
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think there's a lot to be appreciated in

1022
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: the an Rice universe. And I do wonder if it

1023
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: wasn't for her, if vampires would have fallen off, so

1024
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 1: to speak, because otherwise we have obviously Dracula, yeah, which

1025
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: you know, sort of vintage but like outdated. And then

1026
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: of course there's all the teen stuff like True Blood Twilight.

1027
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: True Blood was cool when it came out.

1028
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 2: I remember, did are you excited to see No Sparatu? Sure?

1029
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: I actually haven't seen any of his movies none. Wait

1030
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: did he do the Vivic Yeah? Okay, then I have

1031
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: seen that.

1032
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 2: I didn't see that one. I saw The Northman.

1033
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: Wait, no, not Dave Eggers. What's his name?

1034
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 2: Is that?

1035
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: Not it Dave Beggars is the author? It is he

1036
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,959
Speaker 1: is Robert Eggars. Yeah, okay, so yeah, I've only seen

1037
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: The Witch. I know people love the north Man. I

1038
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: also was always curious about the Lighthouse with Robert Potwell.

1039
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I meant to see that, but but I

1040
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 2: would I would see us Farau too sure. I think

1041
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 2: it'll be fun.

1042
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: I I've been uninspired. I know there's there's some good

1043
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: movies that right now, but I don't know, I've been

1044
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: a little uninspired.

1045
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what you mean. I mean, even like

1046
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: the way that people are like trying to gig guy

1047
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 2: ifi baby girl. I'm like, I'll watch it. I'm excited,

1048
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 2: but I'm like, but I don't feel it deep in

1049
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: my soul. Like when Challengers came out, I was excited

1050
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: in this. I'm like, yeah, like I'm Nicole Kidman whatever.

1051
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure it'll be fun.

1052
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: I've heard she's amazing in it, and I'm excited to

1053
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: see it. Nicole Kidman works too much and we don't

1054
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to miss her before she comes back.

1055
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1056
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: I just remember, like when Mary of Eastown came out

1057
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: and Kate Winslied came onto the screen, I was like,

1058
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: thank god you're back. Like, and she also works a lot,

1059
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: it's not like she was she had disappeared. Yeah, I

1060
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: with Nicole Kidman, she's just constantly doing something and I

1061
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: somehow find a way to watch everything, and so it

1062
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: sort of just feels like seeing a family member again.

1063
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think I'll enjoy it. I'm be excited.

1064
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: But the gay guyification fields manufactured or something.

1065
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: There's something something about the Oscar season this year. It's

1066
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: not hitting in a way I wanted to Yeah, you

1067
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, I'm like, where's the anatomy

1068
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: of a fall?

1069
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 2: I even felt like Anora. I thought it was gonna

1070
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 2: be like everyone's talking about it all the time, and

1071
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 2: it like kind of came and went like people were

1072
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 2: like that was really good, and then that's the end.

1073
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: I know. I wonder if they pushed her, pushed Mikey

1074
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: too soon and people have Mikey Madison fatigue by the

1075
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: time it's a time to vote for the Oscars. Yeah,

1076
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: but then you know who they really pushed too early?

1077
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: Demi Moore. Mm hmm. People barely remember that.

1078
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 2: Did I say this on the podcast? Already one of

1079
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 2: my dumbest statements yet? If I did, if I think

1080
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 2: I've ha said this, but so sorry, Why is it

1081
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: Demi Levado? This is?

1082
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,439
Speaker 1: This is well, this is I remember when you said,

1083
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: why isn't it Julie Art since it's in art school?

1084
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Speaker 2: Well, I would always forget is it Julliard or Juliar

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Speaker 2: Jilliard or Juliart.

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Speaker 1: Once again, it's so frustrating that after three hours of

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Speaker 1: talking on Zoom we can't just like have a drink.

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Speaker 2: It's actually quite tough being by coastal. This podcast so hard,

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Speaker 2: and it's it's really weird because like when everyone record,

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Speaker 2: it's always a bad time for one of us, like

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Speaker 2: I am like, and it's hard to quantify, and it's

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Speaker 2: even hard to like like when we're in New York. Yes,

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Speaker 2: scheduling is annoying, and then we hang out and it's normal,

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00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 2: and we can be like, well, now it's normal, and

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00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: now we're scheduling all the time and never hanging out,

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Speaker 2: and it's like, it's weird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it creates. Yeah, it's it's frustrating.

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Speaker 1: It is a relationship literally no one would ever be

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Speaker 1: able to understand unless they also had a similar, like

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Speaker 1: professional experience like it is. It is one of the

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Speaker 1: strangest experiences in the world to have a friend that

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Speaker 1: you have to constantly schedule chats with to then release

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Speaker 1: into a paywall. And then sometimes I will think of

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Speaker 1: something and I'll be like save it for the pod.

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Speaker 1: It's like that is so humiliating.

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Speaker 2: This morning, I woke up with glee that I was

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Speaker 2: going to be able to tell you about the pulling

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Speaker 2: dick out story. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: By the way, if you want to listen to the

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00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: pulling pick out story about a subscribe to Patret.

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Speaker 2: That's true. Mama Malma.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, well, I just want to say, first

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Speaker 1: of all, I'm very grateful for you.

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Speaker 2: I'm very grateful for you as well.

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Speaker 1: And we are both so grateful to all our callers. Today.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna I'm going we're gonna play a couple more

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Speaker 1: calls after this as a little button because I think

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Speaker 1: they're entertaining in fun calls that we didn't have time

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Speaker 1: to answer. And thank you everyone for calling in. I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry if we didn't get to your call. But I

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Speaker 1: think we're going to try to start putting calls you know,

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Speaker 1: here and there and in other episodes too.

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Speaker 2: And if you're in San Francisco, come to our sketch

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Speaker 2: best show please January seventeenth.

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Speaker 1: Is that it seventeenth? Please tell your friends it's a

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Speaker 1: Friday night, It's gonna be so much fun, or a

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Speaker 1: Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: Or Friday, but it is a Weekenday night.

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Speaker 1: It's a. It's a Friday night. It's gonna be so

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Speaker 1: much fun. I really want to get some good guests

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Speaker 1: because you know so many of you are going to

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Speaker 1: be in. That's me so fun. We can go need

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Speaker 1: to act fast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's also kind of a late show.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I'm proposing. Oh Martinez on stage. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: you've never done that before.

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Speaker 1: I know, we've never We're such little good at two shoes.

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Speaker 2: We really are. It's kind of weird.

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01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: I'm also feeling like twenty twenty five, we're gonna mix

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Speaker 1: things up. I'm thinking I'm thinking new merch. I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: new artwork for the pod. I'm thinking potentially even new segments.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking even like mixing up the live show in

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Speaker 1: a way. I'm thinking we do little you know, impromptu

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01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: games or something like that. I'm like, it's it's time

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Speaker 1: to innovate.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. Folks. Marry Christmas, Happy

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Speaker 2: New Year, Happy holidays.

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Speaker 1: All which is on Christmas Day this year.

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Speaker 2: Hey, so that.

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Speaker 1: Is called bipartisanship.

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Speaker 2: That is amazing. So no matter where you stand religiously,

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Speaker 2: that day is gonna pop off. Oh yeah, and yeah.

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Speaker 1: I love this, like very slow ending that we're doing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we just we keep talking slower and less focused for

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Speaker 1: like ten minutes. I'm actually loving it, like I'm transitioning

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Speaker 1: into not podcasting live.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're hearing it, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm now just chatting and I no longer

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Speaker 1: have in my mind. I'm no longer like I hope

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Speaker 1: this is coming off as entertaining.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Well that's how you know the podcast really be good.

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Speaker 1: What are you having for dinner?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's only two pm here, you know,

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Speaker 2: I haven't even thought about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean for going a lout.

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Speaker 2: I've only had a bagel so far.

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Speaker 1: A bagel in La Now, honey, let me tell you

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Speaker 1: it was gross, but I bet it was bit but

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Speaker 1: old habits die hard. Do you like a warm, wintry cocktail,

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Speaker 1: like a hot like a hot toddy, or like a

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Speaker 1: mould wine?

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Speaker 2: I can I can get into it.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna I think I'm gonna have that

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Speaker 1: be part of my identity in the next two weeks. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: big announcement, So look out, folks.

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Speaker 2: The way that I'm gonna pretend it's like zero degrees

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Speaker 2: when I'm in New York, even though it's not like.

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Speaker 1: I'd been pretty cold, has it. Yeah, it's been cold

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Speaker 1: this week. I was I actually bought new gloves, believe

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Speaker 1: it or not.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm so excited. Fuck.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well guess what. If you're listening to

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Speaker 1: this on Patreon, thank you for subscribing. And if you're

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Speaker 1: listening to this on the main feed, this is just

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Speaker 1: the small peak of the kind of benefits you will

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Speaker 1: get if you go to patreon dot com, slash straight

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01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: or lab and subscribe. We're talking two extrapisodes a month,

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Speaker 1: movie club call in shows literally monthly earnestness chickens where

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Speaker 1: we just say the most personal and vulnerable things you

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Speaker 1: can think of and charge money.

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Speaker 2: You know what this ending is? What it's so like? No,

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Speaker 2: you hang up like we have something like neither of

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Speaker 2: us were like resisting ending it in a funny way.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm also I have errands to do after this,

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Speaker 1: and I really don't want to do them. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: there's nothing I can do to prevent mysel because I've

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Speaker 1: already eaten. Normally I would be like, oh, perfect, I

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Speaker 1: can eat now and then run my errands, but that

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Speaker 1: would be lying to myself. Yeah, although I think I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna make a smoothie.

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Speaker 2: Yum. Oh, I want to treat. Yeah, I get a treat.

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Speaker 2: I want to go to aralone and get a twenty

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Speaker 2: dollars to wait, I deserve.

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Speaker 1: That, Yeah you do.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: And I would even go further. I would say, get

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Speaker 1: a smoothie, but then also get a little snack.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Wait, this sounds so good. Okay, done,

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Speaker 2: I'm going.

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Speaker 1: Okay, done, all right. And by the way, this you

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Speaker 1: know we're we know we're being this way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is self aware, so you can't make.

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Speaker 1: Fun of This is not what most Patreon content is.

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Speaker 1: We are focused. Then, we are literally discussing a film

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: We just don't want to go do our days.

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Speaker 1: We just don't want to go do our days. And

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Speaker 1: guess what. It's Sunday, December fifteenth.

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Speaker 2: And this is I'd like to see our last recording

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Speaker 2: of the years, our.

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Speaker 1: Last recording of the By the way, I like to

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Speaker 1: see what everyone else, what everyone else is doing right

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Speaker 1: now at five pm month, Sunday, December fifteenth. Are you

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Speaker 1: guys being super smart and super insightful? I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. If you're judging us right now,

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Speaker 2: look in the mirror and judge yourself.

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Speaker 1: Literally look in the mirror, because I know what you've

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Speaker 1: done and you will be punished.

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Speaker 2: Well, George, you're making them rock hard all over again.

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Speaker 1: Well, if that makes your card, then you met to

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Speaker 1: listen to the previous page one episode because I have

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Speaker 1: to say, I'm like, when you were telling that Penis story,

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Speaker 1: I was like, I could see people being horny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was sexy. It was sexy and

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Speaker 2: and weird, but but sexy. All right, Okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: A holidays, love you, bye bye.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Sam and George. I don't know if you're still

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Speaker 10: using this voicemail box after the earnest of Bonanza, but

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Speaker 10: I just saw Wicked yesterday and I thought of a

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Speaker 10: straight shooter and I just felt the need to share

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Speaker 10: it a hell to share it. So anyway, here it

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Speaker 10: is the boy is Mine or the girl is Green. Okay,

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Speaker 10: that's pretty much it. Love you guys, bye a Stradio lab.

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Speaker 11: This is some gay guy living in New Jersey driving

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Speaker 11: a Volvo to pick up some dinner. I forget why

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Speaker 11: you set up this phone line and what it was used.

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Speaker 8: For last time, but I liked talking to you.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty much it.

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Speaker 11: I hope you have a blessed day.

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Speaker 2: Bye.

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Speaker 9: Hello, so crazy. I'm calling because I just listened I

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Speaker 9: have a very boring job right now, and so was

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01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 9: sort of letting Spotify rip and it was playing the

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Speaker 9: old episode in which Sam says, I'm sure that makes

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Speaker 9: sense and I'm so beautiful, and then immediately afterwards says

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Speaker 9: something so infinitely relatable, which is not really understanding exactly

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Speaker 9: why a bullet would kill something. He's like, how does

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Speaker 9: it go through and why would it? Why would it

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Speaker 9: kill it? And George tries to explain in a you know,

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Speaker 9: sort of logical way, but just seeing like I don't

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Speaker 9: get it, somebody explain it to me.

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Speaker 8: I have this all the time.

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Speaker 9: I think this is like constantly sort of like no,

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Speaker 9: but literally why. And one of my things that I

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Speaker 9: often think about and feel almost freaked out that nobody

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Speaker 9: else is thinking about, is like how a refrigerator works.

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Speaker 9: I feel like nobody's ever thinking about how their refrigerator works.

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Speaker 9: But it's one of the only things in our life

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Speaker 9: that just makes things colder, and nobody's ever thinking about

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Speaker 9: how that happens. Anyway, I'm obviously stoned, but it's just

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Speaker 9: one of those things and I felt kinshit and I

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Speaker 9: wanted to share that with someone, So thank.

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Speaker 1: You, Goodbye podcast and now want more. Subscribe to our

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Speaker 1: Patreon for two extra episodes a month, discord access and

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Speaker 1: more by heading to patreon dot com. Slash Stradio Lab.

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Speaker 2: And for all our visual earners, free full length video

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Speaker 2: episodes are available on.

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Speaker 1: Our YouTube now Get back to Work.

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Speaker 2: Stradia Lab is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money

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Speaker 2: Players Network and iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Created and hosted by George Severis and Sam Taggart.

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01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 2: Executive produced by Will Ferrell, Hans Sony and Olivia Aguilar,

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Speaker 2: co produced by Bey Wang, edited and neered by Adam Avalos.

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Speaker 2: Artwork by Michael Philes and Matt Grubb. Theme music by

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Speaker 2: Ben Kling