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Speaker 8: Donteur Oh yeah, dancee so first, first non player, yeah,

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Speaker 8: the one that that helped JB get on his feet

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Speaker 6: So so, welcome to our friend, Mark Cuban. This is

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Speaker 6: a This is gonna be fun, this will be a tree.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, guys, this is going to be interesting.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 6: I just want to get into it, right Mark, Why

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Speaker 6: do you guys draft JB? Oh lord like the little

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you the whole war room story. Man, it

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Speaker 3: was great. So we picked Luca, traded up to get Luca,

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Speaker 1: The best part about that story is none of us

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Speaker 2: And then like I didn't do I didn't have a

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Jamie, how many work I was going to do?

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Speaker 9: I didn't get any promises.

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Speaker 2: I got. I had no idea what I was doing. Actually,

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Speaker 2: maybe I'll go there and then but yeah, no, no

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Speaker 6: to I actually hate playing in Dallas, but I love Dallas.

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Speaker 3: Why do you hate playing in Dallas?

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Speaker 6: Because every year I am ass in Dallas, like literally ass.

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Speaker 1: Rolling, you know, regardless of what team you're on.

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Speaker 7: It was like a close game.

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Speaker 9: The back room and we're wondering everything.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, we're gonna get the good wine list. He's

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Speaker 7: That'll work, Jalen.

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Speaker 1: What are your best memories in Dallas?

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Speaker 2: My best memories in Dallas. Definitely that first I'm serious

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Speaker 2: and obviously hold off getting to the Western Conference finals

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Speaker 2: in my fourth year. It was obviously it wasn't in Dallas.

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Speaker 2: The first game was in Phoenix. My rookie year, we

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, yeah, Rick obviously like to play two

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Speaker 2: I think Devin Harris like it was like it's hamstring

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Speaker 3: then it's gonna be a lot harder to hold a

433
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Speaker 3: team together when you're past that secon second apron. Even

434
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Speaker 3: though the second apron goes up, it's only you know,

435
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Speaker 3: and it can only go up by ten percent a year,

436
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Speaker 3: So it's gonna be really tough to really pull all

437
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Speaker 3: those pieces together and hold them together.

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Speaker 6: You think you think it's gonna make it more competitive, or.

439
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's gonna be a lot more balance. Yeah,

440
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Speaker 3: so you'll it's gonna be like when I kept Dirk

441
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Speaker 3: all those years. I don't think that you can do

442
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 3: you'll be able to do that anymore, just because if

443
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Speaker 3: you have a guy who's on a MAX contract and

444
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Speaker 3: signed into his later thirties and you want to you know,

445
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Speaker 3: you have a rookie who's really really good, and you

446
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 3: got to put them on a Max or another you know,

447
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 3: somebody else that you want to bring in on Max

448
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 3: you're gonna be in that second apron for year, and

449
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,959
Speaker 3: that's you know, put us oude expensive. It has all

450
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 3: kinds of competitive issues as well. So I think I

451
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 3: think everything's gonna be a lot more balanced. I think

452
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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a lot more competitive top to bottom.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like to the real like detriments of it come

454
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Speaker 1: when you're in it for like years. But maybe a

455
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Speaker 1: team's like, hey, we're just gonna bite the bullet for

456
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Speaker 1: four to five years, strike while the iron's hot, and

457
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Speaker 1: just try and get a few a few banners.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if they can do it for

460
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Speaker 3: four or five years, but you know you've got this.

461
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Speaker 3: Then kind of next year to kind of you know,

462
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 3: still live with old contracts, and then it's gonna get

463
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Speaker 3: much much harder to go into that second apron and

464
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Speaker 3: still compete, because I mean even this year, you look teams,

465
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Speaker 3: now you know, if you did a signing trade or

466
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 3: you did some other things, you're hard tapped, like you

467
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 3: can't add anybody like you. Guys went through that, you

468
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 3: know as well, we went through it, and so that

469
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 3: puts a lot of constraints, and so you know it's

470
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Speaker 3: gonna change how teams build over a longer period of time.

471
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Speaker 3: But never you know what But I say that you

472
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Speaker 3: just never know if someone comes up with a better

473
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Speaker 3: approach that we didn't think of, and maam, you know

474
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Speaker 3: they come out ahead.

475
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Speaker 1: One one question I have is and you mentioned like

476
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Speaker 1: you mentioned what it takes to be an owner these

477
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Speaker 1: days in terms of the continued investment, the experience in

478
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Speaker 1: real estate. You mentioned why it made sense for you

479
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Speaker 1: to pull back to a certain extent but obviously still

480
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Speaker 1: do basketball operations. What was the process like for you?

481
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Speaker 1: Obviously this is a thing that you built over the

482
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Speaker 1: last twenty five years. What was the process of you

483
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Speaker 1: for you to find a buyer? Why did you know?

484
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Speaker 1: Why did I think it's the Adilson family? Like what

485
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Speaker 1: about them made you excited that they could help carry

486
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Speaker 1: the team into the future? Like what was that whole process?

487
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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've known Patrick Dumont and the adult since

489
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Speaker 3: for a long time New Sheldon before he passed away,

490
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Speaker 3: and we had a great relationship and we had been

491
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Speaker 3: talking for years about building a resort destination casino if

492
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Speaker 3: and when gambling resort gaming was passed in Texas and

493
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Speaker 3: so we have been working together a long time, and

494
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Speaker 3: you know from their perspective, you know, I don't want

495
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Speaker 3: to speak too much for them, but like, if you're

496
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Speaker 3: going to spend billions of dollars to build a resort,

497
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Speaker 3: destination casino, like you know, a Bellagio or Venetian in

498
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Speaker 3: the middle of Dallas, you know you're gonna want to

499
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Speaker 3: own more of the team than just a few percentage points.

500
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Speaker 3: And that played into it from their perspective. But you know,

501
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Speaker 3: they're the best at the world, in the world of

502
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Speaker 3: what they do in building arenas and destinations, and you

503
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Speaker 3: know they don't try to be basketball people. And plus

504
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Speaker 3: we've got you know, it helped a lot that you know,

505
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Speaker 3: my trust and Nico grew and grew and grew. He's

506
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Speaker 3: done such a great job that that made that side

507
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Speaker 3: of the decision easier as well.

508
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Speaker 7: What time is it? Game time?

509
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524
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525
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Speaker 2: Time is it game time. What are your thoughts on

539
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Speaker 2: your moves this offseason, like adding the guys that you added.

540
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Speaker 3: What you guys know Quentin, right, you tell me.

541
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Speaker 2: I don't know who that is at all? Actually idea

542
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: now Quinn. Quinn is a great guy, first and foremost.

543
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Speaker 2: I enjoyed him as a teammate and he was always

544
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Speaker 2: in a gym. He always worked hard. I have nothing

545
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Speaker 2: but nice things to say about him. And obviously he

546
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Speaker 2: spread the floor and I feel like he does exactly

547
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Speaker 2: what your team needs, like with you, he is the

548
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Speaker 2: quickest release I've ever like that I've ever seen. But

549
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: he definitely has a quick release whenever Luca drives and

550
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: does his little behind the head passes that no one

551
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: ever sees coming. I mean, I mean he's able to

552
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Speaker 2: knock that down. But he's a great addition. And then

553
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 2: he can defend. He's tough and the things.

554
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Speaker 3: And that was the key, right that he could shoot,

555
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 3: He could put the ball on the floor some he

556
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 3: can get a shot off, and he can defend. And

557
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: you know, we wanted to keep Derek Jones, but you know,

558
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: as you know better than anybody, sometimes that doesn't always

559
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Speaker 3: work out.

560
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Sometimes things just happen.

561
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Speaker 3: It just happened for whatever reason, right, but you know,

562
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 3: and losing DJ, we wanted to, you know, keep that

563
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: defensive mindset, but we also wanted somebody that was going

564
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 3: to be able to make a three, because Lucas always

565
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: going to get you an open look. Kyrie is going

566
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 3: to get you an open look or score on their own.

567
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 3: And then you know, we want one of the team

568
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 3: that could defend. And we also had Derek Lively, who

569
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: just was a revelation this past year. But if you

570
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Speaker 3: look back in the finals, you know, there were times

571
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: when we couldn't score and we really wanted and it

572
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 3: was more just hitting open threes than anything else. And

573
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: then obviously the big addition was Clay just somebody who

574
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: you have to face guard, who's going to you know,

575
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: make forty percent and we're hoping, you know, at Golden State,

576
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,719
Speaker 3: he had to always be on the move. They had

577
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Speaker 3: that motion offense where he was always coming off screens

578
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 3: and running. You know, we don't do that right or

579
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: not nearly as much, and Ture, we'll run some of

580
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 3: that action for him, but just standing in the corner

581
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 3: and you know, standing in the you know, in the

582
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 3: wings and just catching shoe from Luke and Kai. Hopefully

583
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 3: his life's going to be a lot easier, so we'll

584
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: be able to defend, make shots and have a lot

585
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: of depth and let Derek Lively just keep on growing

586
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 3: and getting gaff and you know in PJ also, you know,

587
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: we got more size, got better defensively, so you know,

588
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 3: if we can make shots, like any team, but if

589
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: we can make shots and keep on defending, you know,

590
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Speaker 3: the West is a beast, you know. Okay, see you

591
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 3: got a lot better. I wish you guys would have

592
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: had some money to keep you know, heart shine, But yeah,

593
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 3: I think you know, we got better, but so the

594
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Speaker 3: entire West.

595
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Speaker 2: That's the one thing I remember, Josh, we talked about

596
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Speaker 2: that about how like we had Isaiah, but like we

597
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: can only offer him a certain amount, but any other

598
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Speaker 2: team can offer wherever they wanted. No, what was the

599
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Speaker 2: conversation we had.

600
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was like we were like hardcap and with

601
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Speaker 6: like being able to offer him like that like four

602
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Speaker 6: to seventy two, you know, like you know, a couple

603
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Speaker 6: of episodes ago. It was like the same thing with

604
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Speaker 6: like mcdonovich and like Sack where you can only get

605
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Speaker 6: like you know, like fifty whatever, you know, a million

606
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Speaker 6: that he was able to go and get eighty or ninety.

607
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Speaker 6: So we talk about it. It makes no sense, but no, no.

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Speaker 3: That's the way it's structured right now, though you're going

609
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: to see that a lot more. Right, You've got to

610
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 3: make those choices on where you spend your money. It's

611
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 3: hard heart, hard heart, but you know some teams they

612
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Speaker 3: just find an eye, you dude to try to top

613
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Speaker 3: it off, and you got to give him the money.

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Speaker 1: We were saying, it decentivizes you a little bit from

615
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Speaker 1: finding that diamond in the rough and developing them, you know,

616
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Speaker 1: because it's.

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, that opposite actually, because the thing about it

618
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Speaker 3: is like if you look at Phoenix, they're in a

619
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Speaker 3: position where they're they almost have to resign their own guys, right,

620
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Speaker 3: because even going out to get a minimum guy can

621
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 3: be hard when you're technically out with the second cap hard capped, right,

622
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: and so you're going to see more teams just hold on,

623
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Speaker 3: you know, go get that second round pick or trade

624
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Speaker 3: for a second round pick, because now you can sign

625
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Speaker 3: a dude for four years and guarantee that money from

626
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Speaker 3: the second round pick and keep them. And so even

627
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Speaker 3: if you're past the second threshold, the second apron you got, dudes,

628
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Speaker 3: you can keep on the rodster.

629
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Speaker 1: Interesting is that? But that's from a draft perspective or just.

630
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Speaker 3: In general, just just to fill out your roches.

631
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I guess we were saying, like Isaiah kind

632
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Speaker 1: of became what he was in New York. It was

633
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Speaker 1: a lot of the obviously hard work that he put in,

634
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Speaker 1: but like he developed within the system and then at

635
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Speaker 1: the end of the road, the knicks are not rewarded

636
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Speaker 1: by that.

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Speaker 2: There. I guess that.

638
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 3: Happened too, and it's just the way it works some

639
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: times in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: It's also kind of how I think I could be mistaken,

641
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: but I think it's how you guys got Dante, right.

642
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: Is that same sort of contract loophole?

643
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Golden State couldn't pam.

644
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

645
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Speaker 1: Is it called is it uh not bird RDS? What

646
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Speaker 1: what's it called?

647
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't have Mini bird. You know, when you

648
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: have for two years, you have one option and then

649
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: three years you've got the full Monty to sign them.

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Speaker 2: Say.

651
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, if that everyone wasn't there, we would have made

652
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 6: we would have had y'all life a little bit easier.

653
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 7: We would have kept say they out the west.

654
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 3: We were hoping you would keep them right, we would

655
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: take a little less.

656
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, we all were. We all were hoping.

657
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 6: You know, I guess not everybody's like Jalen, you know,

658
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 6: taking the thirteen less.

659
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: All right, all right, this is this is not three

660
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 2: episodes in a row.

661
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 9: We're going to talk about this.

662
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 6: Because because you're our captain. Bro No, you got you

663
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 6: gotta showed it love to New York.

664
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: No, just stop, then, Mark, would you have said if

665
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: you had looked in a into a crystal ball and

666
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 1: saw that that that Jalen Brunson was second team all

667
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: NBA arguably should have been first and just doing doing

668
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: what he's doing now.

669
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 3: I would have been not surprised. I'll tell you the

670
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: one thing that changed in JB's game that I think

671
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: put him over the top. When we had him, it

672
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: was drive left, underhanded, layup, fall on the ground.

673
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: Well I still have that.

674
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 10: Much though, right, you didn't have that get to my

675
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 10: spot at the elbow and get that pull up, right,

676
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 10: That was not You had some of that, but that

677
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 10: wasn't your go to game, which it is now that

678
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 10: is your game now.

679
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: I remember telling you, man, if you fall down they're

680
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 3: not going to give you the foul even if you

681
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 3: get punched in the head. And you know, but that's

682
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 3: where your game changed, and you deserve all the credit

683
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: for making that challenge.

684
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 9: I think that will my my philosophy.

685
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: When in Dallas, we had a lot of guys just

686
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: shot a lot of threes, and sometimes bad threes. So

687
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like, if I come down, if I shoot

688
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: a three, whether if it's a good or bad one

689
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: that doesn't go in, I just feel like it's taken

690
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: upon differently if I shot it. So I was like,

691
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: you know what, let me get to the paint, let

692
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: me give the team a different look. All right. If

693
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: I'm open, obviously I'm gonna shoot it. But like I

694
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: just I just like kind of Mark said, I kind

695
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: of knew my role, and I kind of wanted to

696
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 2: make sure that I wasn't.

697
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 3: Like, but we wanted you to shoot more threes.

698
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but sometimes like it's I've always played the

699
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: game like inside out. If I'm not comfortable, if I

700
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 2: say it, like my first shot at three and it's

701
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: not open, I miss it, my mind's like, all right,

702
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 2: stay away from the thing, boot line. Obviously I've gotten

703
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: over that as I've gotten older, but like it was

704
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: always something that.

705
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 9: Like it was.

706
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: I've always was taught to play a game inside and out,

707
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: which I still kind of do. But it's it's changeable, no,

708
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, my mindset was just weird back then. I

709
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: don't know, it's just.

710
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 3: Eventually, Yeah, that part of growing. Right, every player goes,

711
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 3: look at Josh man, your game today was not your

712
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 3: game back then. And Josh is great, right because Josh,

713
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 3: But whenever we played you guys in Portal or whatever,

714
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 3: I'd be walking across the court. Joshua always find his

715
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 3: way to him, being kind of like give me that look, like, hey,

716
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: you know, I'm a free agent. Without saying it.

717
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 8: He's always angling, just looking, Hey, I'm here.

718
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 6: I love Dallas.

719
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 2: I know I'm paying attention.

720
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 9: Josh. Josh doesn't like the microphone, the rooms.

721
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 3: That whenever he shoots, damn don't now everybody does it.

722
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: That was mine.

723
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 6: That was bad because like that that was like one

724
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 6: of the worst things because it's like if you make

725
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 6: your first shot and you hear that, it's like, oh

726
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 6: I bet if you hear that, it's like, oh hell,

727
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 6: it's the worst thing, especially someone like me. I hear

728
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 6: that the next one. You know what it might it's

729
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 6: not my day about it. Just put my hand up

730
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 6: for a sub and.

731
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 3: There's literally a dude there. It's not like the Rims

732
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: are mic themselves. There's literally a dude with you know,

733
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 3: like a joy box type thing and he just clanked.

734
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 3: We're a swift or whatever. Right, he just has a

735
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 3: bam bam bam. He's got it down to a science. Now.

736
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: Oh wait, so if someone pressed, someone presses, the sound

737
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 2: is a microphone or isn't it?

738
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 3: Yeah? What it's it's a mic until our system, right,

739
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 3: it put out on our speakers. But the Rims themselves

740
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: are not mike. We just say their mic because that's

741
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: what it sounds like.

742
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 7: Wow.

743
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 9: I did not know that.

744
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: Wow, So I remember, right, So think about it the whold.

745
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 3: No matter where you hit where, no matter where the

746
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: ball hits on the rim, right, it sounds the same.

747
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,959
Speaker 3: You could put a mic all the way around there

748
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: and have it sound the same.

749
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: This part of the episode is brought to you guys

750
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: by Fanatics Sportsbook. So Mark just continuing on some of

751
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: the MAVs memories. We'd love to hear your thoughts on

752
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: the six Finals lost versus the Heat and then what

753
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: the difference maker was in twenty eleven, Yeah, that was.

754
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 3: Brutal and O six. I've been around for you know,

755
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: five six years, and we had gone to the Western

756
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: Conference finals before and lost to the Spurs. Steve Kervell,

757
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: people just destroyed us. And then two thousand and six

758
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 3: we get to the finals and it was, you know,

759
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: it was interesting because we beat the Spurs and then

760
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 3: we beat Steve Nash and the Suns, and then we

761
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: get to the finals. We went to at home convincingly.

762
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 3: We get down to Miami and we're up like fourteen

763
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 3: in the third quarter and JB knows like I sit

764
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 3: behind our bench, went on the road. So I was

765
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 3: sitting behind the bench and I'll never forget I remember

766
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 3: standing up thinking to myself, Shit, we got a chance

767
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 3: to sweep these dudes. We're up fourteen and the third

768
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:14,439
Speaker 3: and boom you Donnas Haslin steals breakaway. Then they got

769
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 3: the ball. Shacks got it on the block. No, yeah,

770
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 3: Shacks got it on the block. He just levels Eric Dampier,

771
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: pushes them out of the way and hits two free throws.

772
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, I just cursed us. Shack

773
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 3: just hit two free throws when he's shooting like forty percent.

774
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 3: And then Dwayne Wade starts scribing to the hoop every

775
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: little touch two shots, two shots. He literally, multiple games

776
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: shot more free throws than our entire team. And that

777
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 3: was it, man, And it was painful. And you know,

778
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 3: I never got fined for it, cause but they were

779
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 3: they did officiating in terms of picking the finals reps,

780
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: they did it a lot differently back then. It was

781
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 3: a lot of just who had the most seniority, and

782
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 3: that didn't mean they were the best refs. And you know,

783
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: it was not a good series for US officiating wise.

784
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: But what it is, it's I can't believe it's been

785
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 3: this long since then, almost twenty years. That's crazy.

786
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 2: That's that is crazy. To actually sit out loud.

787
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: I'd say, speaking of refs and seniority, this is probably

788
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: gonna get cut. But one of the players on this

789
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: podcast got got a technical for telling a ref that's

790
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: why you're not reffing in the playoffs?

791
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: Which one was it?

792
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 2: I said it to Josh, and Josh can made the

793
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: message on the court.

794
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 6: Yeah do that. It wasn't one of my It wasn't

795
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 6: one of my brighter moments. You know, my apologies are her,

796
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, This is.

797
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 9: Now, This is definitely gonna cut now.

798
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll cut it.

799
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 1: And then another question is, obviously we talked a little

800
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: bit about this, but with the new CBA, you know, Mark,

801
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: do you think that the NBA is too competitive for

802
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: dynasties to emerge? You know, are we done with the

803
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: days of a team being able to get three or

804
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: four championships in a decade?

805
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: Not yet, just because the Celtics were still able to

806
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 3: sign people under the previous CBA, which made a big difference.

807
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: But I think going forward it's going to be a

808
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 3: lot harder for the reasons I mentioned before. Just when

809
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: you get to that, even past the first apron, there's

810
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: limits and trades you can make and how much money

811
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 3: you can take back and signing guys who are waived,

812
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 3: you know how much money they make, so you can't

813
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 3: sign waved expensive players. And you get past the second

814
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 3: apron and it's even tougher. And so before you could

815
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: always figure out, you know, finago a team together by

816
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 3: making trades, taking back money, whatever it may be. That's

817
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 3: going to be nearly impossible going forward. Yeah, but I'll

818
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: tell you one thing that it's going to be really

819
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 3: good for if I'm doing my math right. That I

820
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 3: don't think players really realize yet because the TV money

821
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 3: goes up more than the cap can go up. You

822
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 3: know how you guys get Escro money taken out, that's

823
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 3: not really going to happen anymore. So that'll be good

824
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: for you guys. Deal, right, So that's money that's going

825
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 3: to stay in your pocket because you guys got to

826
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 3: get paid up to the fifty one percent. But because

827
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 3: not all that money is going to get paid out,

828
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 3: it goes back to the players. And so like JB

829
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 3: maybe didn't really give up any money because if he's

830
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 3: under the max, you can still get more money, and

831
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: guys who don't make as much money will get a

832
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: big chunk of that money. The max players won't, but

833
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 3: Josh will j Billwell and the minimum players will maybe

834
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 3: the two way players to allow that money to cuddle back.

835
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, so there's a benefit of not being a

836
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 6: max baby.

837
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, damn already probably told him about all that math, right,

838
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: everybody to think.

839
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 6: That, Oh man, that is what I've been working for,

840
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 6: working for my whole life for this moment Josh.

841
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: As soon as justice is at my back, it's just

842
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: don't work your watch anyway.

843
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah, it's okay, though, no other good investments.

844
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 6: Oh my god, no, no, I'm I'm I'm looking at

845
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 6: my stats in Dallas for my career.

846
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: How about read them out loud?

847
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 6: Oh my god, this might be the worst shooting splits

848
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 6: you probably ever could ever could have average seven points,

849
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 6: five rebounds. I shoot thirty five percent from the field,

850
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 6: twenty two from three, and sixty two from the free

851
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 6: throw line.

852
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's keep that streak going, Josh. You know, hey,

853
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 3: Mark Torch, come in, Torch.

854
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 6: If you see it, If you see uh when we're

855
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 6: about to play, all you see it, uh inactive, if

856
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 6: you see me act.

857
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: That might be You'll be out there forty eight minutes

858
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 3: for sure.

859
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 6: I'm over here. Look, I'm like damn like you know,

860
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 6: I can at least always count of my rebounding.

861
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: Jab.

862
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 6: I had four rebounds the last two games I played

863
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 6: in Dallas total. Yeah, well, four rebounds like each of

864
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 6: those games the last week.

865
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: So everything's off.

866
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 2: It's just you just can't make that trip.

867
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna just do everybody in here a favor

868
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 6: except for Mark and just you know, just tell tis

869
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 6: like tips, just leave me home or I'll go I'll

870
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 6: just go golf. I'll come back and I'll just watch

871
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 6: you guys.

872
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: Josh, I wanted to ask you, you do rebounding clinics

873
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 3: like over the summer for kids you can make a

874
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: fortune for really No, No.

875
00:43:59,640 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 6: Not.

876
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: Josh, Josh when it comes to instructing kids. When it

877
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: comes to instructing kids or doing anything for the public

878
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 2: or the community, Josh is not that type of person.

879
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: Josh is that guy. Not that guy.

880
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: Josh would pull up and say, kids do not box out,

881
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: trust me, it's overrated. That's exactly what he would say.

882
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like there's like like certain things like for that.

883
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:33,479
Speaker 6: It's like you're always taught like growing up like box out,

884
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 6: turn and like I never do that, Like I I

885
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 6: just don't know, yeah right, yeah, Like because there's been

886
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 6: like I mean so many times. Obviously now people know

887
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 6: that I, you know, I'm a good rebounded guar. So

888
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 6: there would be times where like their co turn and

889
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 6: try to box me out and they have no idea

890
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 6: what the ball is and I literally just just jump

891
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 6: up or I just it would just go right past

892
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 6: their head and I'll just get it. So I'm just saying,

893
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 6: I'm like, I just don't do it. I just go

894
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 6: like track, try to see where the ball going.

895
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: Two or three guys right, and so it's not like

896
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: everybody just get back like it used to. So knowing

897
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: how to rebound rebound your side huge skill, huge skill.

898
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 3: Like you get guys now that come in around your height,

899
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: a little bit taller, and it's like, why can't you

900
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 3: rebound right? You're looking for guys literally there was a

901
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 3: dudek mean a menu right al Meani. Yeah, that was

902
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: like the number one rebounding guard kind of like you

903
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: before you only a little taller. And guy was like

904
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 3: he was no one had signed him, but we went

905
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,959
Speaker 3: after him just because he was the best rebounder guard

906
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: rebounder for his size. That's a skill, man, that I mean.

907
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 3: So I'm just telling you don't know it yet. You're

908
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 3: gonna be fifty years old. Hi, I'm Josh Hard. I'm

909
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: gonna teach you.

910
00:45:52,080 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 11: How to rebound Josh Barkley Barkley exactly see one on

911
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 11: an instructional video.

912
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 3: And then you come on Shark Tank and even though

913
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 3: I won't.

914
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 6: Be there you know, yeah, I'd be like this DVD

915
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 6: is backed by Mark Cuban.

916
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: On one thing, I would love to talk about JB

917
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: and Mark, if you guys are both comfortable. It is like,

918
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting because we have obviously a player's

919
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: perspective and an owner's perspective here. But I would love

920
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: to just talk a little bit about Jalen's kind of

921
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: free agency process and what that all was like from

922
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: the owner side and Jalen what that was like from

923
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: the player's side.

924
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'll Marco first because.

925
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: First, no, no, you're the hole. I'm just a guest.

926
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: So me and Mark had plenty of conversations.

927
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 12: I don't want to see plenty of couple couple a

928
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 12: couple of two to three maybe, and uh so from

929
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 12: my perspective, uh uh.

930
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 2: After we after we play the game, after we lose

931
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 2: Game five and most of the Premis finals, I remember

932
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: seeing like on Twitter it was like it marked a

933
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: like a postgame interview like so it was a ballely

934
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 2: it was with our crew or whatever, and Mark was like, hey,

935
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: like we can pay the most money and that was

936
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: that was like the main thing I saw from the

937
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: thing that we can pay the most money and the

938
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: fact that, and so I saw that, and obviously you

939
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 2: go into free agency and you start seeing all these

940
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: news and that the nicture making and all this stuff.

941
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 2: And then obviously my dad go into the Knicks and

942
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: so there's an assistant coach. So then I'm like, all right,

943
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: that's that's interesting, Like that's something that like is very unique,

944
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 2: and like I just don't know, like, how how could

945
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: I how could I live with myself if I didn't

946
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: like at least explore that option. That's one, okay, And

947
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 2: so we go into free agency, right, and then have

948
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: a meeting with the Knacks, and then after the Nacks

949
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: a scheduled meeting with the with the Mass right is

950
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: everything I'm saying factional so far, Mark.

951
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 3: Kind of sort of except for the meeting part was

952
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: it wasn't quite the way it was set up, right,

953
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 3: because they wanted us to come to New York, and

954
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 3: we were like, okay, but what are we going to discuss.

955
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 3: We need to have some reference on what we're going

956
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 3: to be talking about if we come to New York, right,

957
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 3: And you know, we're like, we want to keep them,

958
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 3: we want to keep them, but we're not going to

959
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: just show up in New York for you just to

960
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 3: say no. And you know, like I told you, there

961
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 3: was a time where it was, okay, what is the number,

962
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 3: give us a feel well, I got to can't talk

963
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 3: to JB. He's going to a wedding. And that was

964
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 3: pretty much the last we heard.

965
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 2: Let's go into the wedding.

966
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 3: It was.

967
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: It was no, no, it was wedding. Yeah. But so yeah,

968
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 2: so that was like I said, from my point of view,

969
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: and so so as we get once we got the

970
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: number from the Knicks, right, it was once that, once

971
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: we got the number from the Knicks and everything, like

972
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 2: I said, I'm gonna keep saying this from Jalen Brunson's

973
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: point of view, I didn't hear anything else in the Mavericks, right,

974
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: And it wasn't wasn't from the Mavericks. It was my

975
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: agent saying it all like they're not giving us a number.

976
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: That all that and the third and so yeah, I just.

977
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: Right, we were like, what's you know, give us a range?

978
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 3: What's the number. We put up a number, they said

979
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 3: too low, and then they were like, well where do

980
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,439
Speaker 3: we need to be? You know, we were hoping we'd

981
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 3: have a home court advantage, right, he'd been here, you know,

982
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 3: four years at least give us that opportunity. And then

983
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 3: when it comes came down to it, and it looked

984
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 3: like you were going to go to the next So

985
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 3: it's like, well, really, the only number that's going to

986
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 3: make it work is a max out contract. And that

987
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 3: was the last.

988
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. So and then we I think Mark and I

989
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 2: we had we were on separate podcasts, like he says

990
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: some stuff, I said some stuff, all right, and then

991
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: we decided to actually have a conversation together, burst off

992
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 2: out and then boom here we are.

993
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, it is what they did. No

994
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 3: art feelings is, you know, behind both of it. I

995
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,399
Speaker 3: don't hold grudges or anything. There's no grudge to hold, right,

996
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 3: JP and I have always gotten along, right, I don't think,

997
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 3: you know, And so I'm happy for him. It didn't

998
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 3: work out the way I thought it would. I mean,

999
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 3: you know, I.

1000
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: Mean you guys, you guys made the conference finals, so

1001
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: I mean I think it worked out pretty well.

1002
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 3: Well. Yeah, but you know what I'm saying, right, Yeah,

1003
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 3: but you know, honestly, like I remember, we all went out.

1004
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 9: Here, excuse me, the finals, excuse.

1005
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 3: Me, Yeah, the finals issue. Yeah, I mean, but I remember.

1006
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: Worked that great for both parties.

1007
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean worked. But I literally remember we were

1008
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 3: after one of the games in Utah, a bunch of

1009
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 3: us was walking back. Ally was there and we were

1010
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 3: talking and everything. I thought, Okay, we're going to figure

1011
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 3: this out and we'll make all this happen. And so

1012
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 3: to me, that's, you know, that's kind of where I didn't.

1013
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, I thought it would work out. I

1014
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 3: honestly thought it would work out. I really really really did.

1015
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 3: But it didn't. And that's okay, you know, all's well,

1016
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 3: that ends. Well, I'm happy for you, the King of

1017
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: New York, and I'm happy for us. You know, it

1018
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 3: is what it is. That's the NBA.

1019
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1020
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: The only thing that I ever never, i'd nevern't like

1021
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: about the whole situation was when Mark said, when the

1022
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 2: parents got involved, that's some things that messy. So that

1023
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: was the one thing I was like. I kind of

1024
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: was like, Dann, that was a little job, but it wasn't.

1025
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 3: Really, No, I didn't want to go there here, right,

1026
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 3: It wasn't. It wasn't a job at all. I mean,

1027
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 3: there's no reason for us to talk about any of

1028
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 3: that stuff. But it wasn't just the jab JB for real.

1029
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: I know, I'm just I'm just saying, well, that's when

1030
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 2: I heard that. That's what maybe I felt a little

1031
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 2: a certain way. But I got over it, obviously, as

1032
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 2: my parents and so well, didn't I apologize. I think

1033
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: put you in a certain way. That wasn't the intention,

1034
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: but it was. It was hard to deal with.

1035
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 3: It was it was unique. For it was a unique

1036
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 3: negotiation in a lot of different ways. I was.

1037
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 2: I would say, it's the same negotiation that we just

1038
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: want to do with Isaiah. I would say it's pretty

1039
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: similar in some respect.

1040
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure what I mean. I don't know the details,

1041
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 3: but yeah, it may well be, you know, but it's.

1042
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 2: It's over and done with. Yep, we're here now and

1043
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: that's it, and.

1044
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 3: I'm happy, literally, I'm happy for it. I mean, like

1045
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 3: when you got married, like we still keep in touch.

1046
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 3: I'm always sending you congrats and this and that. So

1047
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 3: I mean, there's definitely no art feelings at all. But

1048
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 3: it's always interesting when your dad and I walk by

1049
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 3: each other, you know, it's just like he gives me

1050
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 3: the eye, I give them the eye, and then we

1051
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 3: smile and then keep on walking, right, And so yeah,

1052
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 3: all was well the name as well.

1053
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Josh and I were talking. I mean to see

1054
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: the MAVs in the finals, to see Jalen doing what

1055
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: he's doing. Like Josh and I were actually talking about

1056
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: last night. Josh was like, can you imagine how different

1057
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: JB's like career would look right now if like they

1058
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: had got a deal done, you know, not to say

1059
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: better or worse, but just different. And it's just crazy

1060
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: how things work out.

1061
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, the only thing I wondered, how did you not

1062
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 3: get any stock in CAA when you signed those deals

1063
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 3: and brought everybody in.

1064
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: I'm not going to disclose any information about that.

1065
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 9: I'll keep I'll keep that close to the chest.

1066
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 6: Oh, Mark, I am kind of like segueing from that,

1067
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 6: right or like building off that. Obviously JB was gone

1068
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 6: and then you guys kind of had that void, and

1069
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 6: then you guys made that Kyrie trade.

1070
00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 2: Yep.

1071
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 6: And what I'm kind of curious to your thought process

1072
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 6: was thought process of that because obviously, yeah, I know,

1073
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 6: I butchered that, my bad because obviously you know how

1074
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 6: Kyrie was being viewed at that point. You know, people

1075
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 6: he didn't have a positive you know, you know, right

1076
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 6: viewpoint for a lot of different people. And obviously now

1077
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 6: that's you know, a total one ear you know what

1078
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 6: I mean, totally different. So what was your thought process

1079
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 6: of that, you know, making that trade and that, Yeah.

1080
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 3: Nico known him a long time, and Nico was like,

1081
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 3: it's a good Advan and I would talk to people

1082
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 3: around him, and every single human being that I talked

1083
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 3: to that played with them, was in the same organization

1084
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 3: as them, all said these are great dude, just misunderstood

1085
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,479
Speaker 3: and that if you just respect to he is, he'll

1086
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 3: respect you back. And I was like, that's easy to do.

1087
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 3: Nico was like, you know, this is worth taking. You know,

1088
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 3: we didn't even see it as a risk. And as

1089
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 3: you get to talk to Kyrie and Schetelia is his

1090
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 3: stepmom and agent, you know, you get to learn that

1091
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 3: he just he's just a different guy, but he's got

1092
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 3: the biggest heart ever. And if you respect that, if

1093
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 3: you respect his views, even if you disagree with him,

1094
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 3: then he's going to be able to focus on basketball.

1095
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 3: And I think that's just you know what worked well

1096
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 3: and turned out well, you know, and plus being in

1097
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 3: the New York market or even a Boston market is

1098
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 3: a different beast than Dallas, you know, and so it

1099
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 3: was a lot easier for us to or for him

1100
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 3: to communicate, and and so and then, you know, it

1101
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 3: was tough at the beginning when he first came to us,

1102
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: but over the summer we spent time together, We talked

1103
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 3: on the phone and got to know each other. He

1104
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: talked to Nico all the time, talked to Jay Kidd

1105
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 3: all the time. He's just a good dude. I mean,

1106
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 3: the best way to describe Kyrie. You're in college and

1107
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 3: there's five dudes sitting in the dorm room talking and

1108
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 3: the dudes are talking about playing poker and sports and whatever,

1109
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 3: and Kyrie wants to talk about world peace. You know,

1110
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 3: Kyrie wants to talk about disadvantage populations and what we

1111
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 3: can do to help, which is great, right, I mean,

1112
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 3: you want friends like that and people like that in

1113
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 3: the world. And I think that's once we got to

1114
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 3: see that side of Kyle. I mean, it was really

1115
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 3: really easy to accept him and just as for who

1116
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 3: he is, and the basketball speaks for himself, right, there

1117
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 3: was never any question.

1118
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 6: There were all nervous after you guys made a trade

1119
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 6: and they're like obviously, obviously it always takes a minute

1120
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 6: to joie. You can't it never happens, right, were all

1121
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 6: nervous at all, and now.

1122
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 3: You're nervous after every trade for me, Right, there's no

1123
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 3: trade I've ever done where it wasn't like, oh, please, please,

1124
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 3: please please, because you never know, you know. Some of

1125
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 3: the deals that I've done that I thought were great

1126
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 3: deals turned out awful, and vice versa. But with Kai,

1127
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 3: he came in and Luca was hurt, and we went

1128
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: three and one when Luca was out, and then they

1129
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 3: had to try to Gail and they deferred to each

1130
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 3: other too much, and then our season was a lost season.

1131
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 3: And so it was like, okay, well let's just take

1132
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 3: the summer, and they did, and you know, going into camp,

1133
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 3: they learned how to play together. Ja Kidd is great

1134
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 3: at dealing with guys at that level of talent, and

1135
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 3: we're able to put it together.

1136
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: I feel like the obviously the Western Conference Finals was

1137
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: when like the brilliance of them two together and the

1138
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: backcourt was on full display. I mean the gentleman's sweep

1139
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: against Minnesota, and then Jay Kidd coached his ass off

1140
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: the whole series too. Like that was just poetry.

1141
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 3: It was fun to watch for sure, because we went

1142
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 3: in as underdog in every single series, even the Clippers

1143
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 3: to start, Okay, see Minnesota, I mean, they're gonna sweep

1144
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 3: us and this and that that. You know, two guards

1145
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 3: we have are't gonna work. And you know, not only

1146
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 3: did they work, and not only did they show that

1147
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 3: two guards can work together, but they made everybody else better. PJ.

1148
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 3: Washington got better, Daniel Gafford, you know, Live delve got better,

1149
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 3: every you know, d Jones. They lifted everybody else's game.

1150
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 3: Bull and that was a special part of what they

1151
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 3: did as well.

1152
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that.

1153
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 6: Okay, CE series, I mean just watching it, just like

1154
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 6: WATCHAG the Oka C series, Minnesota series, like I'll see,

1155
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 6: like you said, it.

1156
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 7: Was crazy, yeah, like that Like.

1157
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 6: PJ was like PJ was hooping goat. Like the combination

1158
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 6: of Gafford and Lively was you know, I mean, I

1159
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 6: felt like y'all had like the second best centers and

1160
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 6: you know, besides us, I gotta put my guys up there,

1161
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 6: but those two.

1162
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 3: But you know, that's what changed our season around, right.

1163
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 3: We were like six and twenty three, and even that

1164
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: was after the trade deadline and we got to the point.

1165
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 3: Jake Kidd got us to the point where, okay, we're

1166
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 3: always going to have one of those two guys, Gaffer

1167
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 3: Glve on the court at all times so that we

1168
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 3: always had room protection, and that turned their entire season around.

1169
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 3: And there you know, it's tough for a team to

1170
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 3: have that, to play against that much size at the five,

1171
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 3: when there's always so many to block a block a shot.

1172
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 3: And I think you know, you're gonna see more teams.

1173
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 3: You guys won't be able to do this, but you're

1174
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 3: gonna see more teams that are in that position, just

1175
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 3: because I think that is the trend that the teams

1176
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 3: are going to go to.

1177
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: Mhm, how do you get that little shit?

1178
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 7: I wasn't go ahead, Yeah, I don't.

1179
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 6: I don't know they'll even keep the part in. But

1180
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 6: I would say, Mark, one of the coldest dopest things

1181
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 6: I might have seen, Like it's probably top five dopest

1182
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 6: things I've seen someone do is when obviously you guys

1183
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 6: got like defined for like tanking or whatever, and you

1184
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 6: guys got lively when you guys got fined, and then

1185
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 6: you just matched the fine, like hey, I'll just match it.

1186
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 7: That was one of the coldest things. That was one

1187
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 7: of the coldest things anyone.

1188
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 3: I always always matched anytime I got fined all of

1189
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 3: you know, three four million dollars whatever it is now,

1190
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 3: always matched to a charity because I always wanted to

1191
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 3: turn it from the league giving me shit about something

1192
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 3: to me just tossing it right back at him. So, yeah,

1193
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 3: I remember.

1194
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 9: I remember.

1195
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 2: There was like some type of show. It was like,

1196
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was, but then the lady

1197
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 2: was like, Mark, you can't curse on the show. He's

1198
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 2: you get fined, You're gonna pay to whatever.

1199
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 9: He's all right, well, fuck it.

1200
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 3: And then the NBA that was like it was there

1201
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 3: was an NBA.

1202
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like something.

1203
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 3: I did a legal legends thing, right, So I did

1204
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 3: this charity League Legends thing and we got whooped because

1205
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 3: I sucked. They were interviewing me afterwards and they're like

1206
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 3: it was all for charity, and they're like, well, the

1207
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 3: commissioner find you fifteen thousand dollars per cursing. And I said,

1208
01:00:56,200 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 3: so if I curse again, they'll find me again. And

1209
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 3: I said, just said fuck it, right. Whatnot Mark?

1210
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: During during your time as owner, What's what was like

1211
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: your most disappointing free agency pursuit that didn't work out.

1212
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 3: Oh, Dwight Howard for sure, because we wanted to get

1213
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 3: it just like twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, and we wanted

1214
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 3: to get a big to be next to Dirk right,

1215
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 3: and we had caproom finally, and because we had never

1216
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 3: had caproom since the time I had been there, and

1217
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 3: we thought we had something worked out with him, and

1218
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 3: we actually trade it down in the draft to get

1219
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 3: enough cap room and missed on the Greek freak on

1220
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 3: Giannis because of it, because there were a bunch of

1221
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 3: guys in our draft room that wanted to go with Giannis.

1222
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 3: And I was like, and it was on me because

1223
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 3: I was like, look, we got Dirk, he's not twenty

1224
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 3: one anymore. I want, you know, we need to try

1225
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 3: to get him a center by him because that's what

1226
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 3: we've always needed. And boom, you know, it didn't happen,

1227
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 3: and Giannis is Giannis.

1228
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 2: Damn.

1229
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 9: I didn't know that what happened with DeAndre.

1230
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 3: Then DeAndre was crazy right. So his agent was a

1231
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 3: guy named Dan Fagan, a good friend of mine who

1232
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 3: died in a car wreck in twenty eighteen, and he

1233
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 3: told us Deandre's coming, and I got fined again because

1234
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 3: I went out with Taylor Parsons and some friends and

1235
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 3: we went out drinking, and so I did. I did

1236
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 3: an interview while I was trash. Somebody on the media

1237
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 3: had heard about it and they called me up and

1238
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:43,479
Speaker 3: I was at Shellbacks in Manhattan Beach and they're like, hey,

1239
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 3: we heard you got it, and I'm like, you know,

1240
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 3: you couldn't announce anything prior to July seventh, and I

1241
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I think we got him, and I

1242
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 3: realized I screwed up, but they went with it. Anyways,

1243
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 3: League gets me for like one hundred gram and anyways,

1244
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 3: so I go down to Houston where DeAndre staying and

1245
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 3: we're supposed to just line it all up. He told

1246
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 3: us yes, said yes, and we're waiting in this hotel

1247
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 3: room and his money guy, Steve I forget his last name,

1248
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 3: was there saying it's going to happen. And then what's

1249
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 3: crazy that I remember the guy who worked in this

1250
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 3: hotel in Houston, remember of Belitza O the kid, the

1251
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 3: guy who played for Minnesota six eleven kids, Serbian brother

1252
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 3: was like working the hotel. We're talking to him and

1253
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 3: we kept on, waiting for DJ to show to show up,

1254
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 3: never did call him, never did got his address, drove by,

1255
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 3: never answered, and that was it. You know, you know

1256
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 3: the story from their side, all right, wow, just bailing

1257
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 3: on us.

1258
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 9: And then but then he came back. But then he

1259
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 9: came back.

1260
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, later, yep, you did come back.

1261
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 2: That's crazy. I did not know all that.

1262
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 6: Oh, are these New York fan questions?

1263
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 2: Mark?

1264
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 6: These might be ruthless. We'll see, all right, all right,

1265
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 6: well guys, we're gonna get into some fan questions.

1266
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 7: You're going to see what we got.

1267
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 6: Nick mused five years later, how do you feel about

1268
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 6: the poisingis trade with the Knicks?

1269
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 3: You know, you gotta go for it. I mean it

1270
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 3: was unfortunately KP got hurt a big chunk of the time.

1271
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 3: But I'm happy for him because you know, he's really

1272
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 3: improved his game, gotten a lot better than when we

1273
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 3: had him. But you know, no balls, no babies, you

1274
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 3: got to go for it sometimes.

1275
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: That's a great ya.

1276
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 3: Let me just tell you where that came from. Right,

1277
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 3: one of my favorite Saints. So I got this is

1278
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 3: when I had no money. Me and a buddy went

1279
01:04:56,320 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 3: to Vegas on one of those last minute deals. I

1280
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 3: had a double bed of two beds in a motel

1281
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 3: six and we got like forty dollars and we go

1282
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,919
Speaker 3: to Caesar's and it was one of these deals where

1283
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 3: like I pulled an eight and then pulled another eight,

1284
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 3: and I had like five bucks up there, and I'm like, Okay,

1285
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 3: do I split them? He goes, yeah, split them, but

1286
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 3: you got to put up another five on each. Go

1287
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 3: do the same thing. Do the same thing. And I

1288
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 3: get another eight, then a three, then an eight, whatever,

1289
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 3: and I'm like, sh it's my last money, Like, do

1290
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 3: I do it on this last three and double down?

1291
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 3: He goes, bro, no balls, no babies, And I do

1292
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 3: want it. And that's been my That's kind of been

1293
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 3: my line ever since.

1294
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 4: Man, no bars.

1295
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just gotta go for it.

1296
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 7: That's fine.

1297
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: I love it.

1298
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 2: At Mikey coin Snatch, ask him what is it? What

1299
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 2: was his most successful and biggest failure as an NBA executive.

1300
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 3: Winning Delarry O'Brien obviously was the biggest. I think the

1301
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 3: biggest failure was I don't know. I mean, luck played

1302
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 3: such a part in the NBA, and you know, I

1303
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 3: just I don't know that there's any one failure we're

1304
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 3: probably not resigning Steve. Nash Tasha up between JB and Nashi,

1305
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 3: but Nashi said, I think yeah. Nashi was one that

1306
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 3: I screwed up really bad and I still have it.

1307
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 3: So I was in my little bunker suite at the

1308
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 3: American Airline Center when he called me back and we

1309
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 3: had set a number where we weren't going to pay

1310
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 3: more and like idiots, and he called me back and

1311
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 3: he said, this is the number, and I wrote down

1312
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 3: on this pad that's still on my desk to this day,

1313
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 3: Mike Bibby money, and that that was kind of like

1314
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 3: my reference. It was Mike Bibby money because Mike had

1315
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 3: gotten maxed out and we were worried about Steve being

1316
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 3: injury prone and it was just a dumb ass move

1317
01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 3: on my part.

1318
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 2: Mhmm damn.

1319
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 3: But I kept that to remind me.

1320
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: So what she wrote, what she wrote that at that

1321
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 2: point in time is still in your desk.

1322
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 3: Yep, still on my desk this very minute.

1323
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 2: Crazy. That's wild.

1324
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: Oh, this is an amazing question, actually, s G two

1325
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: one two MSG. Who would be a better shark Josh here, Jalen.

1326
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 3: That's a great question. I don't know, Josh Well enough,

1327
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 3: So I'm going with Josh. J would be j JB

1328
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 3: would be nice, right, JB were like, yeah, that's a

1329
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 3: good idea, and I really appreciate Okay, okay, wait how

1330
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 3: much is it? Okay?

1331
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 2: You know, Josh, Josh would be the one. Actually, that's

1332
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 2: actually a great point. Josh should be the one who was.

1333
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: Like, no, no, Josh says mister wonderful.

1334
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm a little more unfiltered.

1335
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jbi's two nice.

1336
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, someone has to.

1337
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 2: Be mature on this podcast.

1338
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 7: So I got what.

1339
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 9: I'll do that.

1340
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 2: I'll do this first one v quarter fan. Have you

1341
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 2: ever thought that Luca would be one of the best

1342
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 2: players in the world.

1343
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 3: We were open, that's why we traded up. I mean,

1344
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 3: all are analytics guys that draft were like, he's number one.

1345
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 3: He's number one, he's number one. Our scouts were like,

1346
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 3: he's probably third or fourth, but he's worth going after,

1347
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 3: and so we traded up for him, got him, and

1348
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 3: again I remember our first games back then. Remember we

1349
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 3: went to China JP and just being terrified, terrified, and

1350
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 3: I was. And you know how they said when you

1351
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 3: travel overseas for NBA games, they send ambassadors. So we

1352
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 3: had Sean Marion next to me, and I think Stephen

1353
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 3: Jackson next to me. I'm like, what do you guys think?

1354
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 3: What do you guys think? They're like, okay, we'll see,

1355
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 3: we'll see. And JB knows. I mean it was you

1356
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 3: don't You didn't know until you knew, you know. But

1357
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 3: he was such a gamer. Once we got through that

1358
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 3: first year, it was obvious that he was able to

1359
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 3: do things that other people couldn't. And then you know,

1360
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 3: if he was putting in the work, he was going

1361
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 3: to get there.

1362
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:11,640
Speaker 2: And he has.

1363
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 7: Absolutely Speaking of that China trip, that plane was that y'all?

1364
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 2: Plane?

1365
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 7: Was that when the NBA sent.

1366
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 3: No, that was an NBA trip?

1367
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 2: Okay, that plane was so crazy, Josh. Remember so we

1368
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 2: did USA last summer, right, Yeah, so I'm thinking, oh,

1369
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 2: we're about to take the same plane just like that,

1370
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 2: like all of us to be fired, be fired.

1371
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 9: But we had no Wi Fi. We had no Wi Fi.

1372
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 2: And remember how he got on the plane and the

1373
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 2: air day, Yeah, everyone was out their sweating, but.

1374
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was I was literally that was my second

1375
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 6: year league. I'm like, yo, dog, I gotta try to

1376
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:55,560
Speaker 6: find somehow to get the Dallas.

1377
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 7: If this is how they fly.

1378
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 6: I gotta be here, uh JV on the score Starr

1379
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 6: in ninety seven, Mark, do you miss JB being a

1380
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 6: mav And did you ever see him becoming captain material

1381
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 6: since leaving Dallas?

1382
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeah? I definitely missed him. I mean he put us

1383
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 3: out on the court.

1384
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 2: Jab.

1385
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 3: He's just a good dude, right. He was great in

1386
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 3: the locker room. Everybody loved him.

1387
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 2: He was fun to.

1388
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 3: Hang out with. Ali's great. So yeah, missing him for sure.

1389
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 3: Did I see him as captain material? I don't know.

1390
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I knew he wanted his own team, but

1391
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 3: you know, he really didn't get that chance to be

1392
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 3: that guy other than a couple of playoff games or

1393
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 3: what you know. And so I don't know I'd be

1394
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 3: lying if I said, yeah, for sure, I found captain material.

1395
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 3: Is that fair? JB?

1396
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 2: It's fair?

1397
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 9: Even it's fair.

1398
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 2: I don't think captain in the NBA. I never thought

1399
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 2: that was like, that was like something I got to

1400
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 2: strive for. I obviously wanted to be a leader, but

1401
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 2: I never thought like I'd be named captain of a franchise. Now.

1402
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't want to say he didn't have

1403
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 3: leadership fields, because I mean, you're seeing him now, but

1404
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 3: he definitely did, because you know, no team goes without

1405
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 3: stress and drama throughout in the fire season. And JB

1406
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 3: was always a cool ad, you know, wise beyond his years,

1407
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 3: and you can tell you know that he was a

1408
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 3: leader of Villanova and he tried to translate that and

1409
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 3: so yeah, he was. He was always a calming him

1410
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 3: so much, which was great.

1411
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 2: He's doing Josh's captain and his senior year. I was

1412
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 2: I was the leader. I was the leader. Know you were,

1413
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 2: Let's not do that.

1414
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 7: You were.

1415
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 6: You were like the little annoying if I had a

1416
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 6: kid that was like that coach that that coach of

1417
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 6: like and all that, and we were like, yo, we

1418
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 6: all really like dude, but like he's good, so we're

1419
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 6: just like we'll just hang out with him, right right.

1420
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 6: I mean you know Mark, remember like you know, when

1421
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 6: you were a kid and you're like the older brother

1422
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 6: and your mom's like, yes, your mom to go somewhere,

1423
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 6: and she's like, yeah, but you got to bring you

1424
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 6: You got to bring your little brother with you.

1425
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 3: Sure.

1426
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1427
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 6: That that was us a number with JB. I was

1428
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 6: like we gotta bring j all right, come on, come on, JB,

1429
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 6: come on.

1430
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 2: But I was right there to comfort Josh when he

1431
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,600
Speaker 2: was crying his eyes out. I think we lost in Wisconsin.

1432
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 7: Just list I didn't cry. I didn't, I just had one.

1433
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 9: He didn't cry.

1434
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 2: I didn't cry, just one tier.

1435
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 7: They were.

1436
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 6: They were tears of joy because I finished college and

1437
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 6: that was a monumental moment for me.

1438
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 2: You still had two more months in school, so you

1439
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 2: talk about I.

1440
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 6: Was just like, you know, looking forward to you know

1441
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 6: how much that day would mean for my family, You

1442
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 6: know what I mean.

1443
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1444
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 6: We didn't talk about this. Will Page zero underscore. The

1445
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,200
Speaker 6: NBA is way different than it was in twenty eleven.

1446
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 6: What are the main differences that you've noticed.

1447
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 3: Back then, there was always one dude who could not

1448
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 3: shoot on the court. He was like the defensive specialist JB.

1449
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 2: One of those. We had one of those.

1450
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 3: Just like a Mark mark Man impaired to you know

1451
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 3: what it was like back then, there was always that

1452
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 3: one guy that was a dog that couldn't shoot right

1453
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 3: that you didn't have that. You know, we put Dirk

1454
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 3: on he didn't have to guard. You don't really see

1455
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 3: that so much anymore. And then obviously the other big

1456
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 3: difference is just the pace of the game, the speed

1457
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 3: of the game. Guys are a lot more skilled guys.

1458
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 3: You know, more guys got handles. It's just the skill

1459
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 3: level has just reached the whole another level that you

1460
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 3: didn't see in twenty eleven.

1461
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 2: B boy under sweare reds very eight two seven on

1462
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 2: the wire with that whole name. But I actually, who

1463
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 2: highly agree with this? Why why he got mad at

1464
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 2: that one? Dude? And short thank for having the Warriors

1465
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 2: logo as a product.

1466
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 3: I mean there was like deodorizer, refresh fresh whatever. And

1467
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 3: this was right after we lost. So we lost in

1468
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 3: May to the Warriors, right, this bit was this, This

1469
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 3: pitch was shot in June, like three weeks after we

1470
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 3: had just lost. And I'm like, dude, read the room, right,

1471
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 3: this product you could have picked the MAVs and if

1472
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 3: you didn't have anything, you could at least said, look,

1473
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, this was the only logo product we had.

1474
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 3: I know it's the Warriors. I know it's raw still,

1475
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 3: and then I would have been like cool. But he's like, look,

1476
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 3: we have the Warriors logo and I'm like, no, man,

1477
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:33,480
Speaker 3: I'm out, don't even bring.

1478
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 1: That for that reason.

1479
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 9: I'm out, Yeah, you guys, shoot in La.

1480
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're shooting Culver City at Sony Studios.

1481
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 13: Okay, Okay, it's a California guy, baby out of Yeah,

1482
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:52,640
Speaker 13: out just just did a whole different sport.

1483
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 6: You had two options to just either liked Dallas and

1484
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 6: like kind of like be like a kiss ass and

1485
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 6: like hope that get you some good points, or like

1486
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 6: just go yeah, or just going like baseball, going a

1487
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 6: different sports.

1488
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, you not watch the NBA? Do you not

1489
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 3: know what happened a couple of weeks ago. A lot

1490
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 3: of you know, when we shoot Shark Tank, like a

1491
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:17,759
Speaker 3: lot of these deals will go thirty forty five minutes

1492
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 3: an hour and then they'll edit it down. And so

1493
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 3: I was a lot meaner than they showed on air

1494
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 3: at all.

1495
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,799
Speaker 1: Mark, what's your best Shark Tank investment today?

1496
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 3: Beatbox Beverages is killing it right? I bought.

1497
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:42,799
Speaker 10: Y Yeah, baby, sponsors, you just got it there.

1498
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 7: Uh let's say both.

1499
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what are the what are they.

1500
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 3: Like to drinking or their other sponsor? Okay, there's sponsors.

1501
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're not bad though, it's good.

1502
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 3: No, there's no they should be a sponsor, right, they're

1503
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 3: killing it right. So I gave him a million dollars

1504
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty five percent or thirty percent of the company.

1505
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 3: And now I've been deluded some but now they're gonna

1506
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 3: do two hundred million dollars give or take this year

1507
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 3: and profitable and killing it, kill it. Wow, that dude

1508
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 3: wipes is right up there as well. You have seen

1509
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 3: dude wives, right, I got those. I gave them like

1510
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 3: two hundred fifty thousand dollars for twenty percent, and now

1511
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 3: they're gonna they're way past fifty million dollars. They're worth

1512
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 3: way over one hundred million dollars. Right. It's just both

1513
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 3: of those companies just killing it.

1514
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 2: Nice piggyback off of that what's your what's your biggest mess?

1515
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 3: There was this guy who had a name of the

1516
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 3: company was Breathalyzer, and it was this dude named Charles,

1517
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 3: and he comes on and actually multiple sharks investing. The

1518
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 3: whole idea was let me just breathe into this little tube, right,

1519
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 3: and it's got all the technology and AI behind it,

1520
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 3: so it'll tell you what your alcohol limit is, right,

1521
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 3: or what you're what you're at right? Are you at

1522
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 3: point o way? What you're gonna blow if you get stopped?

1523
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 3: And great idea, right, and so I invest. I end

1524
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 3: up putting in a million dollars when it's all said

1525
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 3: and done. Now, all of a sudden, I'm following him

1526
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 3: on Instagram because I just want to see, thinking he's

1527
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,759
Speaker 3: going to post about the product. He's on this island,

1528
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 3: He's on Nectar Island, he's in the Bob and I'm like, dude,

1529
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 3: what are you working? And you're supposed to work. You're

1530
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 3: part of me more, you travel more than I do.

1531
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 3: And it was in six months that it was gone

1532
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 3: to hell.

1533
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: He was just testing out the product.

1534
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 6: Sure, that's hilarious. Marks our last segment. It's called picks

1535
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 6: Me Scrolling, So basically it's tweets funny moments of.

1536
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 7: The week on social media. Yeah, and we just kind

1537
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 7: of react to it.

1538
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 6: Ooh yeah, how about the Cowboys?

1539
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 3: How about the Cowboys?

1540
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 2: How about CD Lamb still not getting paid?

1541
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:19,759
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm first Cowboy second.

1542
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 6: So for the audio listeners, this is JB walking into

1543
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 6: I'm guessing he lost a bet with Lucas. So he's

1544
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 6: walking into the arena with Dallas cowboy jersey with number

1545
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 6: seventy seven and on the back of it says Luca's son.

1546
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:43,719
Speaker 2: So but I'll say this this year, this past season,

1547
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:44,799
Speaker 2: wasn't this past season?

1548
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, or the year before.

1549
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, Luca walking to the MSG with the

1550
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 2: eagle jersey on that said j that said JBS on

1551
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 2: the back. But of course he told every social media

1552
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 2: as so she media member and whoever did not take

1553
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 2: pictures or whatever. But I got I got a sneaky

1554
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 2: pick of him walking in with this up. But yeah,

1555
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 2: I'll post that eventually.

1556
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 7: You gotta get your get back.

1557
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 2: I got to I got to it. I saw this.

1558
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I saw this.

1559
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 2: This is a video of Kyrie and Greece now teaching

1560
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 2: kids out of the vassal on the beach. See this

1561
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:35,600
Speaker 2: could be Josh with him rebounding.

1562
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just thinking, how like, obviously you got Kyrie

1563
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 6: over there doing like pivots jab steps. Just imagine me

1564
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:49,600
Speaker 6: over there like throwing the ball up and just like

1565
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 6: going running and catching it.

1566
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 1: Right then, that's that's almost as good as a KD

1567
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: working on his jump shot in the club.

1568
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 6: That is a hooper.

1569
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh my god, what is this?

1570
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 7: So we got let me zoom in on this one, Josh?

1571
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 2: You need actually how.

1572
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 7: They say, can I name all of them.

1573
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:17,560
Speaker 9: I wasna, I wasn't asking you or Matt. If you

1574
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 9: can name any player in this in this.

1575
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 7: Picture, that's pretty just I can. I don't think Matt can.

1576
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 1: I don't think Mac neither Michael Finley And.

1577
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 3: There you go. Yeah, Juwan was the hard one.

1578
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1579
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my first full year going into the

1580
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 3: start of the season, and Sports Illustrated came in and said,

1581
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 3: we want to put you guys on the cover because

1582
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 3: you're so global, will you take all these pictures? And

1583
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 3: Dirk's like, we better be on the cover because that's

1584
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 3: the only reason I've taken these dumb mass pictures. Not

1585
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 3: even close. But yeah, that was That was the classic

1586
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 3: photo shoot.

1587
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 9: Wait, Matt, did you see you didn't see the last person?

1588
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:02,440
Speaker 2: Yeah? Who?

1589
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: I have to see the man who is the I

1590
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: don't know who the last person is.

1591
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1592
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: With the last though, you didn't know, now, who is it?

1593
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 3: Oh my god, God, I feel like what you tell me, I.

1594
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 2: Will it's it's it's that bad.

1595
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not gonna tell him.

1596
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 9: It's that bad.

1597
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 3: Matt Hall of Fame MVP twice.

1598
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 7: He really has no idea.

1599
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 3: We talked about him on the show.

1600
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, that Stephen. That's it doesn't look anything like Steve

1601
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 1: nash to.

1602
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 6: Me that we all knew exactly.

1603
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 1: How old was he in this fixture?

1604
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 3: He was probably twenty five.

1605
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just thinking long Hair's son Steve nash I

1606
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: don't know, got cal Yeah, it's just like I don't

1607
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:03,560
Speaker 1: know when I think of Steve Nashley, this is the

1608
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 1: image I think of.

1609
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:10,759
Speaker 9: You know, that's like that's that's like bringing the Warriors

1610
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 9: thing to.

1611
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 3: Uh oh shit, I dropped not out. I got shut out.

1612
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 2: Man.

1613
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 3: I was so kissed because little Romeo what's his name

1614
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 3: son right there put up like forty shots in the

1615
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 3: celebrity game, like he did not pass the ball at all,

1616
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 3: and Draymond was our coach and he just yanked me

1617
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 3: out and like put me the funk back in and

1618
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 3: they wouldn't even do it right, they would not let

1619
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 3: me play at all.

1620
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 7: That is hilarious.

1621
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,839
Speaker 6: This is the celebrity game in New Orleans.

1622
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:45,679
Speaker 7: That's funny.

1623
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm wait, what's us you have on nikes?

1624
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 3: Oh no, those aren't the nikes, No they are. I

1625
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 3: think they're there grows d roses.

1626
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 13: Yeah, okay, okay, I respect it.

1627
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, you got the d roses, but you got the

1628
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 7: kds on.

1629
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 2: He knew he put up in the all rounded with

1630
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 2: the shoes, he knew he was shooting forty times a game.

1631
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 6: You knew you were not gonna touch that ball.

1632
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 9: Mark.

1633
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 6: You should have just sat down.

1634
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 2: Hoping my man.

1635
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 3: Would leave me to go double him so they don't

1636
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 3: have to throw it to me. Didn't matter, step back whatever,

1637
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 3: right it was now?

1638
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 9: That was like Michael Parsons this year.

1639
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:35,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, like thirty seven times.

1640
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, boy, you didn't dance with the stars.

1641
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 3: Oh man. The scariest thing I've ever done in my life,

1642
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 3: literally dancing. I remember what that dance was in front

1643
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 3: of twenty two million people live live. Man, it was

1644
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 3: scary as hell. And I beat Floyd Mayweather, and I

1645
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 3: beat like, you know, other models and some other folks.

1646
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:07,799
Speaker 3: I don't even remember everybody, but yeah, b Floyd Maywhether

1647
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 3: that was my big accomplishment, finished like right in the middle.

1648
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,560
Speaker 3: But the hardest thing I ever did.

1649
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: Prepared you for TikTok. I said he prepared you for

1650
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 1: tik Tok for sure.

1651
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,520
Speaker 2: Not a lot of people can say they deeply Medwether.

1652
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 3: So I definitely that's right. I gave his first live Yeah,

1653
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 3: oh my god, I can't even say anything about this.

1654
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 13: Man.

1655
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 3: It did not go well. Man, it did not go well.

1656
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 3: But you know the song Uproar, Uproar, right, Well, that's

1657
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 3: a song that Damon John and I would always sing

1658
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 3: in breaks a shark tank, you know, and we would

1659
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 3: just groove to the song and everything during the breaks.

1660
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 3: And so when this happened and he was, you know,

1661
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,560
Speaker 3: rooting for the Suns and talking shit, I was like, okay,

1662
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 3: And he was not happy about it, which I respected

1663
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 3: because he don't want his family shown in the in

1664
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 3: the in the tweet, and so but we talked it

1665
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:08,679
Speaker 3: out and it's all good.

1666
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 7: That's actually it was.

1667
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 3: It was ugly for a minute there.

1668
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 6: Hey, Matt, do you know who that is holding the ball?

1669
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 1: Michael, Okay, all right, you're actually like I didn't know

1670
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 1: the fact you didn't know what I'm telling you. I

1671
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 1: looked at it. I've seen Steve Fans play a number

1672
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 1: of times.

1673
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 2: I looked at it.

1674
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 1: I was like, that's didn't really look like I knew

1675
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: Michael Finley and Juwan Howard.

1676
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 9: Though I have been I had been waiting for this moment.

1677
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,440
Speaker 2: I have been waiting for this month for a long time.

1678
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 8: So.

1679
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 2: Lostary shure. There's a bunch of quoted tweets or whatever,

1680
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 2: and Josh is kept saying because his hands ft as

1681
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 2: hell keeps some balance or whatever whatever, And I said,

1682
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 2: if you keep trying me the whole ros winner your.

1683
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 7: Nickname, I don't have a nickname.

1684
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 2: You don't have any What was it?

1685
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 6: This was? Uh? You has playoff series in Utah right?

1686
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 2: Probably May May twenty two.

1687
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 3: Wait, Jab, what's that hat do you wear? I wanna

1688
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 3: know if it's bigger than my head because I got

1689
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 3: a huge nogging.

1690
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 2: But I haven't fitted since I.

1691
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 3: Was in JB.

1692
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 2: You get you gifted?

1693
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 7: Didn't you give me a fitted?

1694
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:28,599
Speaker 3: I gotta un button all the buttons in the back

1695
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 3: of the back of the hand. I don't, I don't,

1696
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 3: I don't, I cannot. I'm like seven and three quarters

1697
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 3: sometimes in eight, like I have to hold every single

1698
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 3: button in order for it to fit.

1699
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 7: Oh no, I got Mark.

1700
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 9: You remember Mark?

1701
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 1: You remember in Entourage? Win Turtle said, Uh, the bigger

1702
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: the star, the bigger the head or something. It's like

1703
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 1: Vinnie Chase big big head.

1704
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 3: Big bit yep, big head. Anyway, that's if I was

1705
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:58,600
Speaker 3: a little kid yeah.

1706
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 6: I never noticed that. But you know what, now that

1707
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 6: you bring it.

1708
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 7: Up, my son, Man, Josh, that's hilarious. Huh.

1709
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 9: Are you gonna tell the world your nickname?

1710
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 6: I don't have a nickname, bro, all right, if.

1711
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 2: You don't want me to say it, you gotta give.

1712
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 7: One of your nicknames up one, yeah, yeah.

1713
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 2: Multiple, or say the one I'm talking about, because I'm

1714
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 2: not I'm not really say it just to say it.

1715
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say when the time is right, unless you want.

1716
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 2: You want to start out there.

1717
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 7: I'm good, I'm cool. Did I delete this tweet?

1718
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 2: Yep?

1719
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:38,719
Speaker 6: Oh did this person? No way, I deleted the tweet.

1720
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, you delete it.

1721
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,640
Speaker 7: I'm too unfiltered to delete a tweet.

1722
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 9: Because you knew because you know your nickname is bad

1723
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 9: the team gave you in college.

1724
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 7: I don't know, Wildcat.

1725
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Speaker 6: Do we have any more picks of me scrolling?

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Speaker 7: Or is this it?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 6: Man, that's it? Thanks Jayalen, I'm so I will. I

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01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 6: would have said it, but it looks like we are

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Speaker 6: finishing up the episode, so maybe on another episode we

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Speaker 6: can get into that.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 1: But big, big mess from our producer Cam not putting

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01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 1: h Michael Finley still and taking Lucas beer from him

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01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 1: brust reacting.

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01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:17,759
Speaker 2: Hilarious.

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01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:20,720
Speaker 3: The old thing from Finn was dude, you're gonna be

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01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:22,560
Speaker 3: on camera, right, you don't want to be old in

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01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 3: the beer when you're doing these interviews. Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 7: It was hilarious.

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01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:31,679
Speaker 1: Face that's the best part.

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01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 7: You look like a disappointed kid. That's hilarious.

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01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 6: But yeah, no, But to everybody, we appreciate you guys

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01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 6: tuning in. Make sure you guys tune in every Thursday

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01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,640
Speaker 6: for new episodes. Mark, we appreciate you coming on. And

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01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 6: this was really really dope. It was cool to see

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01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 6: the behind the scenes business side and the executives side

1748
01:28:57,439 --> 01:28:58,719
Speaker 6: of you know, the NBA.

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Speaker 7: So we appreciate you making time on the show.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you having me, appreciate it. Jobs JB. Always give

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Speaker 3: my best to Ali well, appreciate.

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Speaker 7: Time, Appreciate it. Thanks my man,