Speaker 1: Oh you didn't know. Well, they could never stop this show.
Speaker 1: We're back. Maybe the Nuggets. No, you didn't know you Sorry, Oh,
Speaker 1: I got a news slash for you. But it seems
Speaker 1: like what we've been thinking all along. It's probably said
Speaker 1: to happen with the Nuggets and Celtics, just on some
Speaker 1: kind of collision course again this June. But there's still there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, if there's some teams out there that you
Speaker 1: don't want to voice their opinion, maybe they have something
Speaker 1: to say. And we have well great guests to discuss
Speaker 1: that with today. NBA writer Tony Jones on today's episode,
Speaker 1: I'm Miles Gray and I'm Drack O'Brien and this kid
Speaker 1: is Miles.
Speaker 2: Busty.
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Speaker 1: Be driving Spinny boys got up with five.
Speaker 4: He's gonna try another, great, mister, bron James, to be honest.
Speaker 1: Tony Jones, NBA writer for The Athletic, You're covering both
Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz and the and the Beat, the Denver
Speaker 1: Nuggets and of course the NBA at large. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us again. Man, have you been.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I expected confetti, so I'm just
Speaker 4: a little disappointed. But hey, this is perfect, man. I
Speaker 4: appreciate y'all, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a bit of a mishap our last episode.
Speaker 1: Our air cannon that launched it injured my neighbor, so
Speaker 1: flew in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah it got nasty.
Speaker 1: That sounds yeah, But luckily this is an audio podcast,
Speaker 1: so it was just only for past cast Blake Wexler to.
Speaker 3: Be traumatized by. But yeah, we're here, We're all right,
Speaker 3: We're all right, We're all right. Where do we Where
Speaker 3: do we start? Where do we start? Should we start
Speaker 3: with the Nuggets? Are they just inevitable? I guess since
Speaker 3: the last time we recorded, the Nuggets beat the Celtics
Speaker 3: pretty I mean it was a good game. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean the I think both teams were like treating it
Speaker 3: like an important game, like it was maybe a preview
Speaker 3: of what we're going to be seeing in a couple
Speaker 3: of months, and the Nuggets just I don't know, a
Speaker 3: lot of people are like, it's inevitable at this point,
Speaker 3: the Nuggets are going to do it again.
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's necessarily the case, but they did.
Speaker 5: I'm personally rooting for whoever's not the Celtics and so
Speaker 5: that that gave me a little bit of ease as
Speaker 5: well as a fan sided article I'm going to talk
Speaker 5: about a little later on. But would you see Tony.
Speaker 4: You know, that's a good question, whether I think is
Speaker 4: in whether I think the Nuggets are inevitable in the
Speaker 4: Western Conference, And you know, I think the thing that
Speaker 4: we have to acknowledge is that they're the best team
Speaker 4: in the Western Conference, right, Like they are definitely the
Speaker 4: best team. But the other question is, you know, cam
Speaker 4: Phoenix knocked them off. Are they capable of knocking them off?
Speaker 1: The phoenis Yeah, the Timberwolves.
Speaker 4: Or the Oklahoma City Thunder, you know, capable of knocking
Speaker 4: them off. And you know, I don't know, like I
Speaker 4: would favor Denver in every series in the Western Conference
Speaker 4: that they that they could that they could face for
Speaker 4: different reasons. And you know, I think I think the
Speaker 4: Celtics should be inevitable in the Eastern Conference. Like I
Speaker 4: don't think that there's any team that's you know, playing
Speaker 4: on their level in the Eastern Conference or at that level.
Speaker 4: Maybe Milwaukee could get there because you know, Damian Lillard
Speaker 4: is such a playoff riser, you know, but this seems
Speaker 4: like the Celtics cheer, and this seems like the year
Speaker 4: where you know, if they don't at least get to
Speaker 4: the finals, know that that should be a loss. It
Speaker 4: should be considered a lost year for them. So, you know,
Speaker 4: I do think that the West is a little bit
Speaker 4: more murky. I think it's a little bit more it
Speaker 4: should be more competitive, But I do I do think that,
Speaker 4: you know, going into the playoffs, that Denver should be
Speaker 4: the favorite in the Western Conference.
Speaker 5: The West is so bizarre, like the Golden State Lakers
Speaker 5: Sons are ten, nine and eight, like that's and then
Speaker 5: Dallas that's the play in those are the playing teams
Speaker 5: right now, and then you know, it's just nobody knows
Speaker 5: anything obviously heading into the season. But I don't think
Speaker 5: many people had Okay, see Minnesota, the Clippers as three
Speaker 5: of the top four teams, so it is very strange.
Speaker 5: And then Denver seems like this island of predictability in
Speaker 5: the middle.
Speaker 2: Of it all.
Speaker 5: So we'll we'll see. But I am counting on Jokic
Speaker 5: to carry the day against the Celtics if it does
Speaker 5: come to that.
Speaker 1: There is I wonder, like, do you think there's this
Speaker 1: thing that because it feels so inevitable. Whenever there's anything
Speaker 1: other than like a victory, people are like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on with the Nuggets, man, like, because
Speaker 1: they're like eleven and two, so it's the All Star
Speaker 1: break and like those two losses were that Kyrie left
Speaker 1: hand or from another dimension?
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 5: I was impressed by that, Miles, you were less impressed
Speaker 5: by that.
Speaker 1: Look like I said, I could do that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Over Jokic, come on, and you're like
Speaker 1: hot hands, I'm like, but that's what you have to
Speaker 1: do to win the game, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And that winning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, how how would you have done it?
Speaker 1: Because that's no other way to do that except to
Speaker 1: be as audacious as as that man was there. And
Speaker 1: then the other one was like a but it was
Speaker 1: an overtime loss. But do you think there's something about
Speaker 1: that sort of like expectation that for for people who
Speaker 1: are watching and wanting the Nuggets to win that they're like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man like it like it's almost too much, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're human beings. They're not gonna win. They're not
Speaker 1: gonna win. Out from here, there's gonna be anomalies or
Speaker 1: you know, just just certain performances that kind of shake
Speaker 1: the try.
Speaker 4: Well. I think the thing that we have to, you know,
Speaker 4: consider in the Dallas game is that you know, Dallas
Speaker 4: raised their level the Denver's level. You know, I don't
Speaker 4: think that Denver played badly, and especially down the stretch,
Speaker 4: right like the last five minutes of the game, excluding
Speaker 4: the final possession where you know, Jamal Murray, you know,
Speaker 4: a typically missed a fiftieth look, there was a really
Speaker 4: good look. I was actually shot. The mistake of that
Speaker 4: that possession was that Jamal Murray went so early that
Speaker 4: he should have went two seconds later.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I wouldn't have gone that early, and I
Speaker 5: also would have made it. That was my two things.
Speaker 5: You got to make too early, and I listen, it's
Speaker 5: hard for me to understand why you did it the
Speaker 5: way you did it.
Speaker 2: I would have tried to make it right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, Tony, but like you know, I was
Speaker 4: shocked that he missed it. But you know, but beyond that,
Speaker 4: those that final possession, I mean, Denver got pretty much
Speaker 4: what it wanted down the stretch when it became winning time.
Speaker 4: You know, they got good shots, They made good shots.
Speaker 4: You know, Jamal hit the three. The possession before he
Speaker 4: had another three, a couple of possessions before that, he
Speaker 4: had a layup possession before that, Jokic had an easy
Speaker 4: uh post up on Doncic. So that's you know, four
Speaker 4: possessions and ten points in you know, the last two
Speaker 4: or three minutes, you know, out of about four possessions.
Speaker 4: You know, I think Denver scored you know, on a
Speaker 4: number of consecutive possessions down the stretch, and they took
Speaker 4: a four point they took a three point lead. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Dallas just raised their level, and Dallas played up to
Speaker 4: that level, which is what you have to do in
Speaker 4: order to beat Denver. You know, Denver's never gonna play below.
Speaker 4: They're very rarely going to play below a certain level.
Speaker 4: And they're always you know, and obviously they can raise
Speaker 4: their game to a level where, you know, it's hard
Speaker 4: to read, it's hard for any other team to reach.
Speaker 4: But you know, like you said, they're eleven and two
Speaker 4: beyond the All Star break, they're playing like the best
Speaker 4: versions of themselves. You know, they began they began the
Speaker 4: quote unquote second half of the season, you know, multiple
Speaker 4: games behind the number one seed. You know they were.
Speaker 4: They briefly took over the number one seed a couple
Speaker 4: of times in the last week. So, you know, I
Speaker 4: think that Denver is happy with where they are. I
Speaker 4: think they're happy with how they're playing, and you know,
Speaker 4: I think that you know, the down the stretch, you know,
Speaker 4: they want to be playing like what they consider the
Speaker 4: best versions of themselves, and they want to be healthy.
Speaker 4: And I think that they're two for two in that
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, looking at the other team that they're you know
Speaker 5: that we're talking about inevitability with the Cell to have
Speaker 5: won six straight, lead the Eastern Conference by ten games.
Speaker 5: The other thing that other than the so the Nuggets
Speaker 5: game made me feel a little bit like, Okay, maybe
Speaker 5: this isn't uninevitability.
Speaker 2: The past couple episodes, we've talked about how.
Speaker 5: Their net rating is historically great, and usually teams like
Speaker 5: their top four I think, or they were pretty recently
Speaker 5: a top four net rating team, and like anybody in
Speaker 5: the top ten is usually either winning the title or
Speaker 5: or losing Lebron getting losing to Lebron essentially, those are
Speaker 5: one thing. One analysis that I read this week that
Speaker 5: kind of made sense to me is that when you
Speaker 5: look at those teams, their best player is almost always
Speaker 5: way better than the rest of their players, you know,
Speaker 5: Like it's the old cliche in the NBA is like
Speaker 5: you want to gamble on the team with the best player.
Speaker 5: Whoever the best player is is gonna wing you the
Speaker 5: playoff series. And of the six teams to like finish
Speaker 5: the season with a net rating of plus eleven or grader,
Speaker 5: their best players box plus minus is on average nine
Speaker 5: point two, and the lowest from that group is Kevin
Speaker 5: Garnett having eight point two for the Celtics and seven
Speaker 5: oh eight this season. Celtics best players tatum at like
Speaker 5: five point two, which is not like it's it's really good,
Speaker 5: but it's not like elite. I think it's like eleventh
Speaker 5: in the league, So I guess it's elite, but it's
Speaker 5: not to the to the level that those top ten
Speaker 5: teams usually are. And that I guess that kind of
Speaker 5: coincides with what I see from the Celtics every season
Speaker 5: when they're expected, you know, the advanced stats are like
Speaker 5: they're gonna win the title. They go into the playoffs
Speaker 5: at feeling inevitable. The thing that'll usually derails them is
Speaker 5: that like at there's that moment when it's up to
Speaker 5: their best player to take over, and he just hasn't
Speaker 5: been able to do that. And I guess that's borne
Speaker 5: out a little bit by the advanced stats, that like
Speaker 5: they're the best team, one of the best teams ever
Speaker 5: because of how dominant there the rest of their team
Speaker 5: is and not their best player, which could be a
Speaker 5: problem in the playoffs, I guess is the theory of
Speaker 5: this fan sided article. We'll link off to in the footnotes.
Speaker 5: But I thought it was an interesting analysis.
Speaker 4: You know, I think it's an interesting analysis, and I
Speaker 4: think it's fair. But I think, you know, every case,
Speaker 4: you know, should be taken in and of itself. And
Speaker 4: if you look at what the Celtics are in the
Speaker 4: Eastern Conference, and if you look at them realistically, realistically,
Speaker 4: the only team that should be able on paper take
Speaker 4: them to seven is Milwaukee, just because you know, Giannice's
Speaker 4: is so great and he's always been, you know, a
Speaker 4: playoff riser, and Damian Lillard, like I said, he's, you know,
Speaker 4: one of the best playoff riser. Is that that you know,
Speaker 4: we've seen in the last you know, ten or fifteen years.
Speaker 4: For what those metrics say to matter about Tatum, the
Speaker 4: series has got to be close. And if you're Boston
Speaker 4: and you get let's say you get Atlanta or you
Speaker 4: get you know, if they you know, let's say, let's
Speaker 4: give Miami a lot of respect and say they can
Speaker 4: take two games off of Boston. You know, it's it
Speaker 4: still should be a multiple game series, and you know,
Speaker 4: they should be favored by multiple games over everybody they
Speaker 4: play and outside of you know, possibly Milwaukee and possibly Cleveland,
Speaker 4: you know, because I do you think that Donovan Mitchell,
Speaker 4: you know, it was also a playoff riser, and you know,
Speaker 4: I think I do think that Cleveland's got, you know,
Speaker 4: the physicality to be able to to bother Boston. We
Speaker 4: know that Boston is a great regular season team and
Speaker 4: one of the greatest regular season teams of our time.
Speaker 4: And you know, we we also know what happened in
Speaker 4: the Eastern Conference finals last year. I think that they're
Speaker 4: a better team, significantly better team than they were last
Speaker 4: year because you know, last year there was no christophs Porzingis. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so Boston still should win the East, even with those metrics,
Speaker 4: even with the with what the metrics say, if it
Speaker 4: should matter, it should matter in the finals if they
Speaker 4: played Denver on the margins. And that's what we saw
Speaker 4: in the two matchups with Denver and Boston. Denver won
Speaker 4: by one or two possessions in both in both games
Speaker 4: because the margins mattered, and I thought that Denver was
Speaker 4: a little bit better on the margins than Boston was.
Speaker 4: So do I think it should matter? You know that
Speaker 4: Tatum's a five point two in the playoffs, probably not
Speaker 4: until the finals, and if they meet Denver there then
Speaker 4: then yeah, it possibly does matter because they won't have
Speaker 4: the best player in the series, because Nicola Yogas will
Speaker 4: be the best player in the series.
Speaker 5: He's the best player in any series, because he's probably
Speaker 5: the best player in the league according to at least
Speaker 5: these advanced stats, which yeah, I mean backed up by
Speaker 5: the eye tests as I don't usually say that, but
Speaker 5: people who watch a lot of NBA basketball say that, should.
Speaker 2: We take a break, guys take a look around the league?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back.
Speaker 5: You got to see Wemby in person recently. He keeps
Speaker 5: having historic nights where he's like just the total of
Speaker 5: like points, field goal percentage, blocks, rebounds are three made.
Speaker 1: Just Yeah, every day it's like a new record broken
Speaker 1: or I realized, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: But what what did it would you glean from watching
Speaker 5: Wembyam in person?
Speaker 2: Like I've heard he's pretty tall?
Speaker 1: Oh my, is that true.
Speaker 4: I've never seen anything like I've seen one. All right.
Speaker 4: So at the very very very beginning of my career,
Speaker 4: like I'm talking fresh out of school, it's around two
Speaker 4: thousand and five, two thousand and six, and I interview
Speaker 4: Yao Ming, and Yao was taller than me while he
Speaker 4: was sitting down.
Speaker 5: And that like me and my five year old Yeah right.
Speaker 4: His legs were like thick, like tree trumps. Like that's
Speaker 4: the other thing I noticed about, Like he just had
Speaker 4: these very very thick legs. And you know, I've been
Speaker 4: covering the NBA for a long time and beyond that,
Speaker 4: the only time I've seen anything, you know, physically more
Speaker 4: outlandish or as ourlandish, was you know, watching Victor win
Speaker 4: Bayama walk two feet by me in an interview room
Speaker 4: and he was almost as tall as the ceiling he
Speaker 4: had to duck. Again, I was just like, what a
Speaker 4: tall human being? And you know, for him to be
Speaker 4: that big, that's tall and to be able to handle
Speaker 4: the ball like a guard the way he does. I
Speaker 4: think that, you know, that's that's really really really amazing, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just just in like the last thirty days,
Speaker 1: like there's always like a new thing where it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's now thirty one points, twelve rebound, six assists, six
Speaker 1: blocks only Kareem and Kareem did that ten times, and
Speaker 1: he did that twice. David Robinson did that five times,
Speaker 1: Pakeem did that three times, Kat did it, Ad did it,
Speaker 1: Charles Barkley and they're like, and this is his rookie season.
Speaker 4: And then you go.
Speaker 1: Even condensed like all in this like thirty day stretch,
Speaker 1: like the frequency which is happening. It's yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: really know what else to say except for like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's it's truly making good on like the promise that
Speaker 1: at least we saw in all the speculation that was
Speaker 1: happening before.
Speaker 4: He end he's as good as as advertised. And yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, I think he affects every part of it,
Speaker 4: every fast of the game. I think he does everything.
Speaker 4: You know, when I wrote about him a couple of
Speaker 4: weeks ago, you know some of the things you know
Speaker 4: I asked him, you know, is your playbook so to speak,
Speaker 4: opening up, you know, because you know he did limited
Speaker 4: actions in November, but now you know, the Spurs are
Speaker 4: running their offense to him now, and they're running dribble
Speaker 4: hand they're running Dho's dribble handoffs with him, and you
Speaker 4: know he's directing the offense, you know, from the nail,
Speaker 4: you know, from the block they're putting, getting them in
Speaker 4: mid post and obviously he's doing this stuff facing the
Speaker 4: basket and above the arc, you know, so he's he's
Speaker 4: kind of directing things a lot more. So you can
Speaker 4: see the progression even from you know, November to now,
Speaker 4: and you can see how much of a significantly better
Speaker 4: player he is now. And you know, in the weeks
Speaker 4: since that article that I wrote about him, you know,
Speaker 4: he's that's that's when he's kind of really like blown up,
Speaker 4: like having those thirty one twelve seven six type of
Speaker 4: games you know, with like five assists and three steals
Speaker 4: as well, he had five by five. You know, So
Speaker 4: he's he's a I think he's going to get a
Speaker 4: quadruple double at some point in his career. You know,
Speaker 4: he's he's a guy who's every bit is as good
Speaker 4: as has been advertised.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really fun. And it seemed like the Nets
Speaker 5: game was particularly fun. If people didn't watch the highlights
Speaker 5: for that, go check it out. Because it also felt,
Speaker 5: for the first time, felt like the team was getting
Speaker 5: him involved, Like you said, they're getting used to playing
Speaker 5: with him enough to like get him involved and like
Speaker 5: actually throw inbound passes to him, which seems like it
Speaker 5: should be easy since he can just like reach up
Speaker 5: and nobody can can get the ball. So but like
Speaker 5: there were some fun ALU plays and some fun like
Speaker 5: hitting him as he was like storming to the basket
Speaker 5: and like you know, dunking at his chin because that's
Speaker 5: like when he gets ahead of steam going and jumps
Speaker 5: like it's the hoop is below his neck.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know, is it excit times.
Speaker 5: I'm really looking forward to seeing, like if they're able
Speaker 5: to build around him, if they're able to like bring
Speaker 5: a point guard in, if there are like some NBA
Speaker 5: point guards who are like, man, this would be a
Speaker 5: really fun challenge, fun time, you know. Yeah, yeah, like
Speaker 5: getting to have him finishing everything around the basket like that.
Speaker 5: Who's who's the dream point guard to like pair with him?
Speaker 5: I feel like Chris Paul would be a lot of
Speaker 5: fun with him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris Paul ten years ago would be a lot
Speaker 4: of fun. Yeah, you know, maybe Trey Young because I
Speaker 4: think Victor is good enough defensively to Mascus flaws and
Speaker 4: oh yeah, and and Trey is so so good offensively,
Speaker 4: and you know, he's he's a guy that that can
Speaker 4: carry you know, the offense on his own. And also
Speaker 4: you know, get Victor involved, you know. So I think
Speaker 4: they he's a guy that that would be good, uh
Speaker 4: to play with him. Yeah, this will never happen, but
Speaker 4: you know, s g A would be great to play
Speaker 4: with him.
Speaker 5: I think both those guys should be I think Chet
Speaker 5: and uh Whyama should be on the same team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, because I don't think. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know. First of all, I don't know that
Speaker 4: those two like each.
Speaker 5: Other, right, No, No, I'm just playing like that. It
Speaker 5: would be very weird if they were on the same
Speaker 5: I mean, if I.
Speaker 1: Was playing two k Yeah, I'm putting them on the absolutely.
Speaker 4: But you know what in real life, I mean basketball
Speaker 4: skill wise, they fit. I mean, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: They'd be tough, they'd be tough.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be really tough and it'd be really tough
Speaker 4: to score on them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, we got to talk about your Knicks
Speaker 5: because you are a Knicks fan.
Speaker 2: That's four straight.
Speaker 4: That's what I just played forty eight minutes. Now, go ahead, joke.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, But.
Speaker 2: How are you feeling heading towards the playoffs?
Speaker 5: I feel like Jaylen Brunson always overperforms in the playoffs.
Speaker 5: The Knicks have one four in a row. They look
Speaker 5: tough there and fourth they would be playing the Magic
Speaker 5: at this point in the matchup. How do you feel
Speaker 5: about how the Knicks matchup and just how are you
Speaker 5: feeling about them heading into the playoffs.
Speaker 4: We need to get out of the fourth seed and
Speaker 4: get into the third seed so that we have way
Speaker 4: Boston in the second round.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the goal.
Speaker 4: We need to get healthy, but apparently OG's elbow is
Speaker 4: a strand of spaghetti at this point, you know, and
Speaker 4: we don't know when Julius Randall's coming back. Like listen
Speaker 4: on paper. If we get everybody healthy, you know, we've
Speaker 4: we've got a chance at least as punchers chance at
Speaker 4: least going to the to the Eastern Conference finals. You know,
Speaker 4: Jalen Bronson is has been so good It's been one
Speaker 4: of the biggest creating steals in a long time. Remember
Speaker 4: when we were like, do we really want to pay
Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson one hundred million dollars? Right now it looks
Speaker 4: like a real bargain. You know, He's he's been terrific.
Speaker 4: Dante Divincenzo's been terrific, Josh Hart has been, you know,
Speaker 4: an absolute monster. Yeah, you know, but I worry about
Speaker 4: legs because you know, nobody in the starting lineup has
Speaker 4: come off the court in the last month as Tibbs
Speaker 4: is wanting to do, we want to do and you know,
Speaker 4: and I worry about I worry about health, right like
Speaker 4: you know, I think it's very concerning that Og came
Speaker 4: back and lasted two games, yeah before he went back out,
Speaker 4: And you know, we got to get Julius Randall healthy.
Speaker 4: But and we got to get Mitchell Robinson healthy. But
Speaker 4: if we can get those those guys, and we can
Speaker 4: have all of our guys heading into the playoffs, I
Speaker 4: feel good about our chances for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean, Mitchell Robinson was possibly coming back, he's he's.
Speaker 4: There is there is hope that he can make it
Speaker 4: back by the play Wow, is.
Speaker 1: A high school coach still living with him.
Speaker 4: That's a good question.
Speaker 1: I think the answer is yes, Yeah, I feel like yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I felt like Karmicle. I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: a good look, man. I feel like the universe will
Speaker 1: will smile upon you for your for your good deeds.
Speaker 1: And then also, man the game against the Warriors, I
Speaker 1: was like, is is Steph Curry? Is that Steph Curry?
Speaker 1: Or has Deuce McBride just completely? I mean, I love,
Speaker 1: I love that this guy shares my name, Miles McBride,
Speaker 1: But what what's going on with him? Locked up?
Speaker 4: Abron? Locked up?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I could not believe what was what was he putt
Speaker 1: in eight eight from twenty ors eight for twenty and
Speaker 1: then like four from thirteen from deep.
Speaker 5: The league has, uh, there are something. There is some
Speaker 5: speculation that the league has tipped the balance of how
Speaker 5: they're calling games a little bit and letting letting defenses
Speaker 5: get away with a little bit more. And I do
Speaker 5: feel like if anybody is going to profit off of that,
Speaker 5: it is going to be the Knicks and a Tom
Speaker 5: Thibodeaut team like the Knicks, regardless, just like it's in
Speaker 5: the DNA of the franchise and then a Tom Thibodeau
Speaker 5: team like it's just gone there, like, oh yeah.
Speaker 4: Only hopes is that they let us drive basketball and
Speaker 4: drag basketball back into the nineties. When we are in
Speaker 4: seven games, seventy nine to seventy six, right right, that's
Speaker 4: my only hope. Then we'd have a chance for a championship.
Speaker 2: That would be fun.
Speaker 4: That would be fun.
Speaker 5: We're on the floor. I still remember that Sports Illustrated cover.
Speaker 2: Amazing.
Speaker 5: All right, enough about the teams we do there, there
Speaker 5: have been two plays from this week that stopped the
Speaker 5: world in their tracks that we wanted to review as
Speaker 5: if short films. Anthony Edwards just absolutely detonated on John
Speaker 5: Collins where he took look off from It's just it's
Speaker 5: one of the wildest things I've ever seen, Like truly,
Speaker 5: it's it's up there with some of the plays that
Speaker 5: we've talked about with like Jaw where he jumps up
Speaker 5: and grabbed that ball with two hands and then just
Speaker 5: like kept going up, just ascending into the rafters. Yeah,
Speaker 5: this just feels otherworldly. It doesn't make sense. It's so athletic.
Speaker 2: So it's like.
Speaker 1: Also like it's like the MJ and Space Jam dunk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, does he have enough arm?
Speaker 1: And he just said yes, there's plenty. I mean, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: looking at all, the images of it are just it's icon.
Speaker 1: Even from the way Collins was on the ground, I
Speaker 1: know he like hit his head or whatever, but the
Speaker 1: pose of him, like it looked like he was baring
Speaker 1: his head in his hands, as if he's like, why
Speaker 1: did I make a terrible business decision like that?
Speaker 5: I've never identified more with an NBA player than John
Speaker 5: Collins in that moment. Just how you feel like, that's
Speaker 5: exactly how I would react. I think he was reacting
Speaker 5: that way because like he got a finger in the eye.
Speaker 5: But that's just what I would do every time. I
Speaker 5: got done so hard that.
Speaker 1: It dislocated Anthony's Edward Singer, that's how hard that impact was.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Was just go full.
Speaker 5: I would sit on the ground, put my head in
Speaker 5: my hands, and then take off one of my shoes.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would be over Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would.
Speaker 1: I would hire lawyers to be like, you have to
Speaker 1: get this image scrub from the internet. There's too much
Speaker 1: I can't. Yeah, yeah, exactly, something like that. You gotta
Speaker 1: hi you gotta have a good team of lawyers to
Speaker 1: sort of obscure that. But yeah, that's definitely. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've had so many dunks this year. I mean even
Speaker 1: last week, who was it, Jalen Greens dunk we were
Speaker 1: talking about, there's just been so many, so much slamage.
Speaker 1: As they say, this slamage has been absolutely off the charts.
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, we're gonna have to do a whole episode
Speaker 1: even just trying to figure wrap our heads around it.
Speaker 1: But how's that rank for you, Tony? That Anthony Ambler's done.
Speaker 4: It was one of the best dunks I've ever seen overall,
Speaker 4: and probably the best dunk I've ever seen live. And
Speaker 4: I would probably say, like it's not as good as
Speaker 4: what Vince Carter did the Frederick Wece that Okay, yep,
Speaker 4: that for me was always going to be probably going
Speaker 4: to be number one.
Speaker 5: Where he jumped over him, he just cleared him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know there, so first of all, I'm
Speaker 4: a shameless plug. Everybody go to the Athletic and read
Speaker 4: my story on that dunk, Okay, because I have a
Speaker 4: story up in the Athletic right now about that dunk
Speaker 4: Anthony ever was over John Collins. Second of all, I've
Speaker 4: come to get to know John a little bit through
Speaker 4: covering him. So shout out to my man John. Pull
Speaker 4: one out for John.
Speaker 2: Every text was you want to see a dead body?
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody, Yeah, you know this, you know, was was
Speaker 4: that on this for my homies? Just pull one off
Speaker 4: of John? You know. But the third thing is, you know,
Speaker 4: it was more than just the dunk. You know, Uh,
Speaker 4: Minnesota was running in mud like all night and what
Speaker 4: Edwards did it, you know, threw some juice into them.
Speaker 4: And then what he did after the dunk, which is
Speaker 4: just take over the game with you know, an assortment
Speaker 4: of jump shots and and terrific defense and rebounding the
Speaker 4: ball and you know, playmaking for his teammates. You know,
Speaker 4: he you know, it wasn't just the dunk. He really
Speaker 4: took over that game afterwards, and you know, he ran,
Speaker 4: He runs back to the locker room, he pops the
Speaker 4: finger back in, he runs back to the free throw line,
Speaker 4: he takes the free throw, and then he keeps playing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: And I asked multiple guys in the Timberwolves locker room
Speaker 4: if they had seen that before, and you know the
Speaker 4: answer was was no except for one. Monte More has
Speaker 4: told me that a guy named Doug Anderson from his
Speaker 4: hometown of Flint, Michigan, had a dunk that was just
Speaker 4: as good. Anthony was also told me that he did
Speaker 4: a dunk like that in high school at Holy Spirit
Speaker 4: Prep down in Georgia when he was a sophomore in
Speaker 4: high school. He was like, that wasn't the only time
Speaker 4: I did that. I did that in high school. He
Speaker 4: was like, all the big schools was there. I was, so,
Speaker 4: I said, Anthony, I said, oh, you started getting recruited
Speaker 4: after that, you started getting and then he was like,
Speaker 4: I already had letters answer.
Speaker 1: Is that so very Anthony Edwards answer.
Speaker 5: I liked that, but it is it kind of reminds
Speaker 5: me of the jaw thing, that two handed block, because
Speaker 5: it also came at comes at this moment as he's
Speaker 5: like kind of ascending to a new level of just dominance,
Speaker 5: you know, and being like somebody that is a bunch
Speaker 5: of people's favorite player in the league, and there's just
Speaker 5: like more and more people falling in love with him,
Speaker 5: and then like this moment just kind of brings everything
Speaker 5: together and it's like the probably most seen clip on
Speaker 5: the internet last night.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe not.
Speaker 5: For all day yesterday because of course Kate Middleton was
Speaker 5: spotted Spottish grocery store.
Speaker 1: Part I think it's doing better numbers now. Actually, if
Speaker 1: you add up to different angles that people watch, I
Speaker 1: think it does. It does eclipse the Middleton.
Speaker 4: I got a question for you guys. I mean, it's like,
Speaker 4: when Lebron and stuff retire, is he the face of
Speaker 4: the league? Like I really think he could be. I
Speaker 4: think he's got the combination of he's going to be
Speaker 4: good enough as a player, combined with how charismatic he is,
Speaker 4: right in terms of you know, he's going to be marketable,
Speaker 4: he's going to be and I think they you know,
Speaker 4: he's going to be a guy that that would have
Speaker 4: no issues embracing everything that comes with that.
Speaker 5: Well, when Lebron retires, he's going to be in Anthony
Speaker 5: Edwards is going to be in his early forties, so right, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't know, you have to see how how he's
Speaker 5: gonna last because Lebron Lebron's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I think it's definitely possible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got the he has the magnetic personality where you
Speaker 1: just like you just want to hear what he has
Speaker 1: to say, and he's really witty. I think, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he's had he's he's still growing up. I think that's
Speaker 1: the one thing Lebron had sort of locked down the
Speaker 1: second he entered the league, Like he was just polished,
Speaker 1: you know, he's so polished as like a media personality.
Speaker 1: Anthony is a little bit more raw, but I think
Speaker 1: that's also part of his appeal. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if he'll be exactly quite the same, but I but
Speaker 1: he definitely has the tools to be sort of like
Speaker 1: the poster child of the league for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Jannis obviously, uh Luka Jokic and and him,
Speaker 5: like we need we need an American in there.
Speaker 2: He's he's going to be.
Speaker 1: But like Luke and Joker are too cool with it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, They're they're kind of they're
Speaker 1: kind of like you know.
Speaker 4: What Joker in the hotel commercials with Peyton was wasson.
Speaker 4: Yokich is a lot more charismatic than I thought he
Speaker 4: would be. Oh yeah, I think those commercials are witty
Speaker 4: and I think they're funny, and I think, you know,
Speaker 4: I think they've been fun to watch.
Speaker 1: Right, I guess, Yeah, the other thing is like, what
Speaker 1: do I mean? It also felt like John Morant could
Speaker 1: have also been that person too, maybe will be Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard to know. Again, some people are polished though,
Speaker 1: Some people are polished, and I think that's kind of
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest difference maker, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? More than anything, it's because even funny, because
Speaker 1: even it's wild though too, because Anthony Edwards has those
Speaker 1: moments too, where he's like doing postgame interviews He's kind
Speaker 1: of saying stuff. You're like, all right, bro, we get it,
Speaker 1: we get it, we get it. But it's also the
Speaker 1: that's the fun of Anthony Edwards though too, in contrast
Speaker 1: with those other persons. Yeah, yeah, all right, let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break.
Speaker 2: We'll come back.
Speaker 5: We should talk Pels and we should get into the
Speaker 5: fastest segment and podcasting shouldn't.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I think we should.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back, We're back.
Speaker 2: And the Pelicans.
Speaker 5: So the reason the Suns, Warriors and Lakers are you know,
Speaker 5: hoping to stay in the play in game at this
Speaker 5: point is because teams like the Pelicans are you know,
Speaker 5: ascending past them. The Pelicans are currently forty one twenty six,
Speaker 5: fifth in the West, right on the heels of the Clippers,
Speaker 5: who are forty two and twenty five. Beat the Clippers
Speaker 5: in the season series three to one. Zion isn't the
Speaker 5: best shape he's been in this year. It's kind of
Speaker 5: maybe the best shape we've seen him in. Has reportedly
Speaker 5: lost twenty five pounds since the end season tournament when
Speaker 5: he was getting a lot of side eyes from people.
Speaker 5: But yeah, he's just bring the ball up for them
Speaker 5: a lot. And you know, Ingram just quietly putting up
Speaker 5: twenty one six assists, five boards on forty nine thirty
Speaker 5: six eighty splits and I don't know, they haven't been
Speaker 5: to the playoffs since twenty one twenty two, so this
Speaker 5: is exciting, exciting times for the Pelicans. Well, how are
Speaker 5: you feeling? You think you think they can make some noise?
Speaker 4: I think they're good enough to, you know, I think
Speaker 4: a lot is a lot that happens with the Pelicans
Speaker 4: is and a lot that's going to happen with you know,
Speaker 4: the Western Conference. I think is going to be contingent
Speaker 4: on who gets the number one two in three seeds
Speaker 4: out of Denver, Minnesota and Oklahoma City. I think the
Speaker 4: order of which they fall is going to determine a
Speaker 4: lot in terms of what happens in the playoffs. Because
Speaker 4: here's the thing, I would not write off the Warriors
Speaker 4: or the Lakers because as flow as those teams are
Speaker 4: in the regular season.
Speaker 1: Very flawed, very flawed, the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Are a different game. And as long as Lebron is
Speaker 4: playing at this level, and as long as Steph is
Speaker 4: playing at the level that he's playing at, and you know,
Speaker 4: let's go Phoenix in there. As long as you know,
Speaker 4: Book and Kevin Duran are playing at the level that
Speaker 4: they're playing at. You know, same thing with Luca. It
Speaker 4: doesn't matter if those guys are in the play and
Speaker 4: those guys with those specific guys are capable of making
Speaker 4: noise in the playoffs because all of those guys are
Speaker 4: such good basketball players, and the playoffs are just a
Speaker 4: drastically different thing than the regular season. So back to
Speaker 4: the to the Pelicans, you know, there aren't many teams
Speaker 4: that are deeper than them, more athletic than them collectively
Speaker 4: their length at you know, so many spots. You know,
Speaker 4: with Herb Jones, you know, basically at the two brandon Ingram,
Speaker 4: at the three Trey Murphy the third, you know, even
Speaker 4: Dyson Daniels. Then you know you got you know, Big
Speaker 4: j V on the interior. You know, they can play
Speaker 4: multiple styles of games. You know, volenteeris allows them to
Speaker 4: play below the rim and allows them to play you know,
Speaker 4: really physical, while you know, all of those wings allowed
Speaker 4: them to play above the rim and allowed them to
Speaker 4: play the entire court. You know. And CJ. McCollum is
Speaker 4: is you know, a draftee scorer who's known, who has
Speaker 4: been known to being a playoff riser. So you know,
Speaker 4: they've got a lot of components. They've got a lot
Speaker 4: of of talent. They've got a lot of length and
Speaker 4: athleticism and depth, and you know Zion kind of ties
Speaker 4: it in with you know, if he can be as
Speaker 4: locked in as he has been over the last few months.
Speaker 4: So you know, from me, New Orleans is definitely a
Speaker 4: dangerous team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, CJ. McCombs definitely come to life.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 1: I caught their last two games and just even the
Speaker 1: way Zion is playing man, because yeah, it's a lot
Speaker 1: different than the guy who lost to the Lakers and
Speaker 1: the plane and people are like, bro, what what's going
Speaker 1: on with him and then that that's clearly a turning
Speaker 1: point for him mentally, because I mean the way he's
Speaker 1: putting pressure on the paint. You thought he was trying
Speaker 1: to get graffiti off the wall. Does that work? It's
Speaker 1: a pressure washer, right Lake? Okay, Yeah, yeah, Okay, I was.
Speaker 1: I was workshopping that before the show.
Speaker 4: Zion deserves a lot of credit because you know, I
Speaker 4: think we we questioned his pride back in December.
Speaker 1: Right r Lebron obliterated him.
Speaker 4: Let's let's be real, like Lebron absolutely dominated him and
Speaker 4: dominated the Pelicans in that game. And you know, because
Speaker 4: it was the n season tournament, because there were no
Speaker 4: other games to take attention off of that, Like everybody
Speaker 4: saw it, all of them being like all of the
Speaker 4: NBA as a community, We were all watching that, and
Speaker 4: we all ran the twinter We all said the same thing,
Speaker 4: like yo, when you like you can't let a guy
Speaker 4: come and just like destroy you like this and not
Speaker 4: fight back. And I think Zion took that. I think
Speaker 4: he took it to heart, and I think he's gotten
Speaker 4: into shape. I think that he took it personally, and
Speaker 4: I think that he showed a lot of pride, and
Speaker 4: that's what you want to see, right Like, you want
Speaker 4: to see a guy, you know, fall down, but we
Speaker 4: want to see the guy had the pride and the
Speaker 4: competitiveness to get back up and and you know and
Speaker 4: quote unquote fight back. And I think that's what Zion's done.
Speaker 4: I think he deserves a lot of credit for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially too, when like there are people like Shaq
Speaker 1: and Chuck would be like, man, if you just put
Speaker 1: it together, man like, you have to want it and
Speaker 1: that it's there are a lot of people have those
Speaker 1: moments where they're like, yeah, this this is how you
Speaker 1: differentiate yourself from other players from good to great. And yeah,
Speaker 1: to see that kind of you know, not evolution, but
Speaker 1: just to see him really like knuckle down and make
Speaker 1: consistency his thing and work so hard, it's like, yeah
Speaker 1: that it makes them. Yeah, I think that's I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if they do something really fun. If again,
Speaker 1: if they stay healthy, I feel like that's always the
Speaker 1: caveat That's the.
Speaker 4: Thing though, right Like, and that's where I made the
Speaker 4: point with the top three seeds. You know, if it
Speaker 4: feels like New Orleans is locked into that four or five,
Speaker 4: right you know, maybe they can get up to the
Speaker 4: four and steal home court away from the Clippers. But
Speaker 4: you know, maybe they hit a slide and they fall
Speaker 4: to six, but you know four as their ceiling, they're
Speaker 4: likely going to be in that four or five. Right,
Speaker 4: It's a different Let's say they get past the Clippers.
Speaker 4: It's a different feel in a different series if that
Speaker 4: second round opponent is Oklahoma City, right, or if it's Denver. Right.
Speaker 4: So that's why I said, I think you know wherever
Speaker 4: that those first three seeds land, because they're all within
Speaker 4: half a game of each other. I think it's going
Speaker 4: to tell a lot with how the rest of the
Speaker 4: West shapes out around Denver.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I regret to tell you, Tony that you
Speaker 5: have stepped into the fastest segment of podcasting.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to do this to you. Man, Sorry to
Speaker 1: do this because we really enjoyed the conversation. But this
Speaker 1: is the rapid fire round questioning. Okay, and you already
Speaker 1: know the deal. We asked you a question. Just chest
Speaker 1: pass it right back reflexively. Boom, think about it. Just
Speaker 1: put it all on the line.
Speaker 5: We don't even have time for the boom. Usually people
Speaker 5: say bing bang boom, No, not even time.
Speaker 1: I need the ball.
Speaker 5: I need thank you, rock rock rock, right, that's me,
Speaker 5: that's me on offense.
Speaker 1: They're like, no, no, no, bro, you're not even in
Speaker 1: the game, man, sit down, you're on the bench right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just want to get you ready for it. But
Speaker 1: here we go, Tony. I hope you're ready. Are you ready?
Speaker 1: Just confirmed? Okay? Well good because Bryan start the clock,
Speaker 1: all right, quick, quick to we're going quick, Jack, you're
Speaker 1: going first. I'm not going first. You go first already, Tony.
Speaker 1: More likely to happen to why Pelican's Western Conference final
Speaker 1: run or Knick's Eastern Conference final run.
Speaker 4: Go Pelican's Western Finals run because they're deeper and there's
Speaker 4: less of a chance that they get tired.
Speaker 1: M But what about your Knicks, man, you're not even
Speaker 1: feeling good about them?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm still an objective.
Speaker 5: Journalists always surprises us, always surprises us in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So that's what I admire about our guests, who are
Speaker 1: the journalists. The objectivity of it rather than the mental
Speaker 1: illness of fandom doesn't make sense. Yeah, yeah, that makes
Speaker 1: sense to me. It's kind of it sounds like you
Speaker 1: don't believe in your squad.
Speaker 5: Tony, you have a time machine. Congratulations. Unfortunately you have
Speaker 5: to use it on something NBA related. To go back
Speaker 5: and personally witness one of the following Wilt Chamberlain's one
Speaker 5: hundred Game seven, two thousand Western Conference Final, Kobe de Shacklob,
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan's final game as a Bull in Utah Game seven,
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen Finals, the Lebron block, the LA block.
Speaker 4: Wilt Chamberlain. Because NBA Twitter conspiracies there is trying to say,
Speaker 4: because there's no.
Speaker 6: Video and that it hasn't happened, So send me back
Speaker 6: to Hershey, Pennsylvania in nineteen sixty two, the witness will
Speaker 6: score on one hundred.
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, yeah, yeah, Wilt's game.
Speaker 5: I feel like we're it would be watching a lot
Speaker 5: of like that play that they had with Wemby against
Speaker 5: the nets where they just like threw it up and
Speaker 5: he was just holding the ball all the way up
Speaker 5: and people couldn't reach it. I feel like that would
Speaker 5: be a lot of Wilt's one hundred, but it would
Speaker 5: be worth seeing.
Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing with Will's one hundred was
Speaker 4: the fact that he couldn't shoot free throws. To save
Speaker 4: his life, and he shot twenty eight for thirty two
Speaker 4: from the free throw line.
Speaker 1: I there it is. Yeah for that alone. You're like,
Speaker 1: only missed four, but he scored one hundred points. Like,
Speaker 1: but do you know about his free throw shooting one
Speaker 1: hundred and four? Yeah? Right exactly. Okay. Tony ranked these
Speaker 1: current duos in terms of your postseason expectations. Okay, Yoki, Chim, Murray, Luka,
Speaker 1: Kyrie KD and Book, Maxie and Tobias Harris.
Speaker 2: I added that last one.
Speaker 4: I know, Maxie and Tobias Harris.
Speaker 1: Okay, the objective, now the objective.
Speaker 4: Now give me give me Murray Jokic thing. Wow, he
Speaker 4: didn't give me. Didn't give me. Who was the fact?
Speaker 1: Maxie and Harris? No, it was the Luca and Kyrie.
Speaker 4: They give me Luca and Kyrie. Me.
Speaker 5: You're gonna want to take a look at that Maxine
Speaker 5: Harris again.
Speaker 2: I feel like they're.
Speaker 4: I'm just going to pick Maxie and Harris forth just
Speaker 4: out of GP.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, okay, okay, okay, interesting interesting decision.
Speaker 1: Look I took a shot jack, you know what I
Speaker 1: mean to say?
Speaker 2: All Right, your time machine still active.
Speaker 5: You now have the ability to go back and use
Speaker 5: a magic wand to grant Twitter to the world during
Speaker 5: a moment during a single night, for one NBA game,
Speaker 5: What one moment or a game from NBA history would
Speaker 5: you have liked Twitter to have been around.
Speaker 4: For Game six, nineteen eighty eight Detroit Pistons, Los Angeles Lakers,
Speaker 4: Isaiah Thomas cours twenty five in one quarter.
Speaker 5: Yeah, on a turned ankle, Right, wasn't his ankle messed
Speaker 5: up at that point?
Speaker 4: It's severely sprained ankle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, great, Yeah, that reminded me of me, really gutty
Speaker 5: and just like skip my medi you know.
Speaker 4: I want to show NBA Twitter why Isaiah Thomas is
Speaker 4: the second best point guard in NBA history.
Speaker 2: Wow, shots fired.
Speaker 4: Nuts inspired just saying he's He's criminally underrated in terms
Speaker 4: of the NBA Twitter. And I think NBA Twitter needs
Speaker 4: to watch a full Isaiah Thomas game, right to get
Speaker 4: a grasp of just how good that guy really was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, number two behind Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 4: Right, number two behind Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 1: Ay. Now, which brings us to our next question and
Speaker 1: the most important question, perhaps the final question. Tony, you're
Speaker 1: in the sea and you're on a life raft, and
Speaker 1: you come upon in the water two men struggling to
Speaker 1: stay afloat, one Carmelo Anthony, the other Jalen Brunson. They
Speaker 1: need help, but you can only fit one of them
Speaker 1: in your life raft. Who do you say, Jesus, that's cool.
Speaker 4: That's tough, and this.
Speaker 5: Is going on your permanent record and it will be
Speaker 5: sending your answer and adding them.
Speaker 4: You're like, wow, because I love both of them as
Speaker 4: a as a Knicks fan. Man, they both belove it. Man,
Speaker 4: that's that's really tough. I'm gonna say Jaylen Brunson for
Speaker 4: one reason and one reason only because Jalen Brunson is
Speaker 4: still playing. Yeah, still has a chance to add to
Speaker 4: his legacy. So theoretically I can still win an NBA
Speaker 4: title with Jayleen Brunson. Wow.
Speaker 1: And then you'd be like, Mellow, you get it, man,
Speaker 1: you get it, bro, you.
Speaker 4: Got it right, Like you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: this is a Titanic women and children first, Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: right because they still have a chance and it's well.
Speaker 5: Not the oldest men, the old men went down with
Speaker 5: the ship. Mellow, you get it. Yeah, not asking if
Speaker 5: you get it, I'm telling you you get it as
Speaker 5: I row away.
Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure playing with you tonight, gentlemen, wait,
Speaker 1: can we talk about this a little bit?
Speaker 5: I said, it's been a pleasure playing with you. Mellow
Speaker 5: please well, Tony Jones, what a pleasure.
Speaker 2: Having you on. Thanks for doing it, man.
Speaker 4: My guys appreciate y'all. Man, thank you so much. Shout
Speaker 4: out to you guys, and shout out to Jabari Davis
Speaker 4: for having me as well.
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Speaker 1: And that that's gonna do it for us this week.
Speaker 2: That well, that's gonna do it.
Speaker 1: That's about that well, or there will be continued Yeah,
Speaker 1: there will be continued boosties and they will be mad
Speaker 1: in it all right, we'll see anything Bye.