WEBVTT - RHOBH: How Kathy Hilton RUNS 90210 with Kate Casey 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:05.080 Hey rain Drops. Yes, so I finally got merch. That's right. 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:11.280 You can buy your Allegedly and my Boys mugs, T shirts, 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:16.440 rain Drops, hoodies and T shirts all on Carlos Kingshop 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:17.639 dot com. 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:21.680 That's right. Get your hoodies, your T shirts, and your. 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:30.040 Mugs all on Carlos Kingshop dot com. Welcome to Reality 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:33.320 with the King. 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On today's 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:02.360 episode of Reality with the King, I am reunited with 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:06.040 my favorite blonde Well no, not Taylor Swift or Beyonce. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:10.800 I'm talking about my favorite blonde host who does the 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:14.080 absolute most, who I love and a dear friend than mine. 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.560 The amazing KKSE is back. 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:19.960 Thank you for having me back. 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:22.240 And by the way, I just interview to you for 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.200 a Saturday series and people need to go and listen 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:28.600 to that episode because it's the entire personal story growing 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:33.640 up in Detroit, ten siblings, well, ten including yourself, how 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:37.039 you came out to your parents, working in the industry, 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:39.559 advice for people who are moving into a new chapter 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.280 of business or personal. It's really good. So people shall 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:42.680 listen to that. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:47.920 Yes, no, go on kkc's podcast Reality Life with KKSE 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:51.720 and listen to this amazing episode that just came out 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:56.080 where you guys know, I'm very private, so of course 0:01:56.120 --> 0:02:01.000 it would take the journalistic skill set of Kate to 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:05.400 get me to reveal so much personal stories about myself. 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:07.640 But I'm so happy we did it. She made me 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.440 feel so comfortable and almost cried. I'm like, is this 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:12.400 a white crotch? As the interview like what are we 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:12.880 doing here? 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.480 Well, when you told the story about when you came 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:17.520 out and your dad, that made me cry. Then I 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:20.320 asked you to send me pictures of your siblings and 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.560 I what did I send to you about your sister? 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:26.639 You said, where's her reality show? I mean she's a stunner. 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:28.080 She's a stunner and a star. 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:32.040 Shout out to my sister Jazzy Bell, who also has 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:33.720 a podcast called. 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:34.600 Women in Hip Hop. 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:39.320 So yeah, She's a star and I love her dearly. 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:41.960 You know who else is a star to me? 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:44.360 Who? Your brother? 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:48.279 No? The Edibles Denise Richards took in this episode. 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.959 I want to know what happened, Like, do you think 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:55.519 she just took too many and too early? They drove 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.520 her around in that car too long. You know, she 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:02.200 lives in Malibu, so the parties in Encino. That's like 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.640 quite a ride and they had to pick up somebody 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:06.280 else along the way, Camille. 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:09.840 Yes, do you think like she just overshot it? 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:12.760 Yeah? I think that's how Funny brought that up. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:17.320 I definitely think she has so much time to pass 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:21.639 getting away from Malibu, going to pick up Camille, who 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:25.959 I'm assuming does live in Beverly Hills, and then having 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:31.320 to drive to Encino. Not to mention Kate, I'm pretty 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:33.720 sure Denise was nervous. 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:36.760 Because she was walking in the light. Yeah, so I'm sure. 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:41.480 Listen, allegedly, I'm pretty sure she swallowed and drank a 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:47.360 couple of things and it showed due to her nervousness. Because, 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:52.480 let's be honest here, nothing was happening on the show, 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:58.880 which is why the producers allegedly brought Camille and Denise 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:04.320 because things were falling flat in the drama meter and 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:09.000 they needed to do something to ignite some drama. And 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:12.960 I think Denise, by the way, who got paid to 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:16.279 be there. Let's be very clear, Denise got a check 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:20.760 to show up and they had to tell her what 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.480 was going on. And I think it was the nervousness 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:29.919 of all this pressure on Denise to deliver a good scene. 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:35.000 She had to like take something to have the courage 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:36.159 to stand up against Erica. 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.800 Jane. Do you think. 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:45.480 The same thing's happening with Sutton and Kyle. How Sutton 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:50.159 keeps pushing this conversation about denial denial? Is it because 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.680 Sutton is the only one that has the balls to 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:52.960 do it? 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:56.240 Yes? Yes, listen you and the beauty of you. 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.719 The conversation that you and I have is we just 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.920 don't recap an episode and regurgitate what we saw. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:03.800 And give our opinions. 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:07.640 We go deeper in terms of what we're seeing, what 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:11.560 I can share with you. Based on being a producer 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.919 in this business, it was a lot of pressures to 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:19.320 make sure this season was great without Lisa Renna right, Yes, 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.679 it was. It was the pressures of that because Lisa 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:26.040 Renna was the only person who will call things out. 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.919 Alex ba igniter. 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:32.440 She's a force igniter, not multiplier. She's a force igniter. 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.720 Alex Baskin, who was an EP of the show, was 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.000 on your podcast and I tell this story all the time. 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:43.159 When you interviewed him, he said, the difference between OC 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:46.440 and Beverly Hills OC cost each other out and Beverly 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:47.080 Hills they. 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.280 Don't, they don't, they don't do it. 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:56.480 And this constant battle between Kyle and Sutton, in my opinion, 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:58.599 has a lot to do with the fact that nothing 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:04.480 was happening and these two were I'm not gonna say pressured, 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.960 but they knew that they had to do something because 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:12.200 this season was falling flat. And is the only person 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:15.120 that has the gravitaze to stand up against Kyle. And 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.040 I want people to know this. A friend of mine 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:21.320 text me and said, which is funny. Kate, a friend 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.240 of mine who's in the business, he texted me, he said, 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:28.080 who's the force multiplier of Beverly Hills. I'm having lunch 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.719 with a girlfriend of mine and we're debating who will 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:34.640 Carlos Kings say is a force multiplier? So now it's 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:38.119 like a topic of conversation at brunch Kate, So, I said, 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:42.000 Kyle Richards, and he said, I'm shocked you would say that. 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:44.600 I said, listen to me as to why I'm saying it. 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:51.640 Kyle understands that she has to move shit around. Let's 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:55.479 not get into the fact that she really pushed something 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:59.320 over the edge in Vegas because Kyle knew that Erica 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.200 Jane was to be is it getting a lab dance 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:05.039 deree is trying to figure out what hair dyes she's. 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.680 Using in a scene, and then the other girls are 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:08.200 checked out. 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:12.840 Kyle pushed, pushed, pushed Sutton to be crazy Town at 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:17.120 the dinner table scene in this past week's episode, Kyle 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:18.720 kept asking her say it. 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.840 What is that you want to say? Just say it. 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:26.880 Kyle was giving Sutton permission put it out there. Let's 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.280 have a conversation about it. Because I know the mummy 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.000 you do. I'm going to get you, which is why 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.960 she said, Kate, you have some nerve telling talking to 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.400 me about a diet when you don't eat well. 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:41.440 I think that they're both full force multipliers, but I 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.600 think that one is passive aggressive and the other is 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:45.760 aggressive aggressive. 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.560 I think Sutton is aggressive aggressive. 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:51.200 Yes, because Sutton is willing to say things the other 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:57.200 women won't, and she has great in the moment, you know, dialogue. 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:03.040 But I could not believe the way I think Kyle 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.160 is almost crossing over from her typical which is like 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:08.520 passive aggressive and aggressive aggressive aggressive. 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:12.119 Was you don't eat, which was like such a low blow. 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.760 Yes, And also you're drinking a lot, like this is 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.680 a different version of Kyle that's ever been She would 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:21.280 have never done that in the past. 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:26.520 No, because Lisa Renna would have. Yeah, Lisa Renna would have. 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:30.880 And because Kyle is the only os. 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.160 Coke in the bathroom is like the equivalent of the 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.760 season of like what you're pushing food around your plate? 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:43.280 That I was surprised too, because eating issues, surprisingly over 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:48.200 all these franchises is never really brought up, which is 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:53.160 such like a pervasive issue for women, especially over the 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:57.320 age of like twenty five. You know your body image 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.920 and how you eat predominantly I think in white culture too, 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.520 like being thin is so important. 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.679 Like do you watch Miami of course? Yes? 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:09.120 Okay, did you remember the scene where Lisa's kids get 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:13.960 a pizza? Yes, Lisa's very distracted on a phone conversation 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.199 with Jody and the kids get a pizza and she says, 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.240 this is your cheat, and then the little boy wants 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.200 to have another piece and she's telling them no. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.720 Yeah, I thought that was so weird. 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.720 It's weird, but it's like I think that happens all 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:29.360 the time. 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:30.600 I couldn't believe that. 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:33.439 I'm glad the producers showed that because I feel like 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:37.199 they never show anything happen to do with eating issues. 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:40.040 And all of these women are on television now, and 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:43.200 I think it got exponentially harder for them, you know, 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:46.839 once they became a celebrity to like how they I mean, 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:51.240 you know, ozembic is like used everywhere, but we've seen 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.160 like a lot of their bodies change, and I think 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:57.800 it's because the pressure that they put on themselves, you know, 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:02.959 personally in the because of society, societal norms, and then 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.240 the added element of being on television when you have 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:08.200 people that DM you and they're like you need to 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:11.880 lose weight, Like I'm a I'm nobody, Like I'm a podcaster, 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:15.160 and I get dms like, you know, telling me things 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:18.320 I need to tweak about my face. I can't imagine 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.440 what these women get, like dms all the time about 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:25.000 you know, you look fatter this season, And I was 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.280 just surprised that it's taken this long, all these seasons 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:33.760 of Beverly Hills for somebody having an eating issue to 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:34.280 come up. 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:34.600 Yeah. 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:38.920 Remember Crystal on Belly Hills was the first person a 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:43.240 Moser franchise of Beverly Hills to talk about it, and 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:47.320 then we had Joke Jackie Golschneider on Jersey to talk 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:51.920 about it. So when I'm very by the way, very 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:55.280 cool of those two women to be that open about that. 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.400 Yeah, Like I have great respect for them for that. 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.600 Oh No, for sure, because it's it's it's was realistic, 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:06.840 especially in the entertainment business, which is why Ozimpic is 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:12.800 like the new weight Watchers pill that everyone's taking. I 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:16.240 know men who are on a Zimpic, Like, it's not 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:17.319 just reduced to women. 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:19.839 It's this obsession with the weight. 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:24.320 So when Kyle brought up to Sutton that you have 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.120 some nerve talking about my diet when you don't eat 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:30.360 and you push your food around, I really wanted the 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.160 producer to do a montage so that we can see 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:37.560 that because prior to that statement, I never I never 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:44.080 really even thought about Sutton's eating habits, you know, And 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:47.720 now to your point, they're sort of alluding that Sutton 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.800 is a drinker, you know, like, is she an alcoholic? 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.680 We always thought possibly that something was just a weirdo 0:11:56.240 --> 0:12:00.280 in the most complementity way of saying that, but now 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:03.360 they're trying to say, no, it's deeper than that, that 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:08.640 there could be some mixture of alcohol and medication, which 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.280 is the same thing that Erica Jane said last season 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:13.880 was the reason why she was acting so wacky. 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:18.040 So to your point earlier of Alex saying, you know, 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:22.040 Beverly Hills is different because they don't really address things, 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:26.760 and also their fights are about petty things. So it's 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:31.199 just interesting the concern maybe Lisa Renna's gone house, this 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:36.120 show going to be different. These comments are cutting deep. Yes, 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:40.319 if you're Sudden and you are on this ballet theater, 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:44.720 you know board, and you have been married to an 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:48.439 executive at PIMCO, and you're from the South, then you 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:50.920 have a certain way that you want people to perceive you. 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.160 And then someone on your cast is suggesting you have 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.160 eating issues and a drinking problem. 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:01.480 This is some heavy shit, it is, and that's the 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:05.880 reason why Sutton is so thrown off because I'm sure 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.640 she's like, look, I don't mind giving you guys good TV, 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:11.719 but I don't think Sutton ever thought. 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.680 Kyle would go there. No, you know what I mean. 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:16.600 So I'm going to challenge you though. 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.760 I think Kyle is more aggressive as a force multiplier 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:21.439 than Sutton. 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:22.640 And the reason why I so. 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.920 You know, I agree with you. I'm saying historically she's 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.480 been oh yes, yes, So this season I'm throwing me 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:32.320 and everybody else for a loop because she It's like, 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:36.200 so you're wondering, have you always been like this and 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.880 you've been like, it's been dormant, yes, and and you're 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:41.080 bringing it out now. 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.640 Oh yeah, because they they are you. 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:47.800 So frustrated by the marriage that you've had to Mauricio 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.840 where you did not have a voice, and not having 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.200 a voice in your family of origin with your sisters, 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:57.000 that now you have found a power in your sobriety 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:00.320 and in this friendship slash relationship that you have with 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:04.560 Morgan that you feel that now you can use your voice. 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.120 I think it's all of those things. I think it's 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.959 all of those things. I think, listen, I've always said 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:14.719 that people, Kyle is my favorite housewife across all franchises, 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:21.000 because she just has this amazing quality to me of 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:27.680 being so likable but not boring, Like there's something interesting 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.560 about a woman who's been on the show since season 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:35.280 one who understands how to produce moments in scene and 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.640 how to bring these women together but also drop a 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.160 bomb to tear them apart and to make sure we 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:45.240 get the drama that we're watching for her, right, which 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:49.560 is why she's She's always pushing the envelope and trying 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.240 to get deep in the story. And I as a 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.400 producer and I work with women. 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:55.760 She's a producer mind. 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:59.560 She's like you, Oh no, she's Oh, she's Kyle is fantastic. 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:04.120 She doesn't always have to be the front and center talent. 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:04.560 No. 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.600 I think she's actually most happy in the background. 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:12.800 Oh yeah, no, for sure, she's she Listen, Kyle does 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.440 care what people think about her. I think now she's 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:19.160 not caring as much. But she's always been a woman 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:23.080 who cared what people thought about her. So when you 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.040 have a Lisa Renna who doesn't give a fuck, who's like, 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.760 I don't care, it was nice to have somebody else 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:34.600 play that role. And to your earlier point because Kyle 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:38.520 did not have a voice in her sisterhood and she 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:40.280 did not have the biggest. 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:43.200 Voice in her marriage. Here she is on the. 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:49.120 Number one Real Housewives franchise on Bravo. Yeah, and she's 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:55.720 now dating, allegedly a woman who will talk about that 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.680 in a second. Two, honey, because they're smitten with each 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:04.080 other does not lie. Honey, they are smitten. But we'll 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.840 get to that in a second. She now understands that 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:13.320 if I'm going to divorce Mauricio, who's the breadwinner, I 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:17.480 need for Beverly Hill's Housewives to be successful because this 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.440 is my bread and butter at the moment, and I'm 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:23.400 not going to make this season flop. And that's why 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:27.200 she got in her red dress or her cramped ponytail 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:31.160 with the waterfall curls and and and. 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:32.600 Look never looked better. 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:36.080 And she gave something a run for her motherfucking money 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:41.120 and and and Kate, this this dinner party listen is 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:46.200 not as iconic iconic as Allison Dubois like. It fails 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:50.880 in comparison to that. But in my opinion, these past 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.840 two episodes were the best of the season. 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.920 Yeah, well, you know, in next week's episode, she meets 0:16:56.960 --> 0:16:57.720 with a therapist. 0:16:58.160 --> 0:16:59.960 Yeah, she talks about her sister. 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:01.840 Let's talk about her sister. 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.640 So she wait to your point though, like she would 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.520 have never done that in seasons past because she's terrib 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:11.520 she should be terrified of upsetting Kathy in any way. 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:20.159 But there's something something happened with MAURICEO. Something happened and 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:21.200 I don't know what it is. 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.200 You don't what what are you? Because you're the smart one. 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.280 What do you because listen the reason why? 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:32.159 I mean I can only guess through the television with 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:37.280 my armchair psychology degree. But I mean there's something he 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.200 he did something that was such a betrayal to her. 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:47.000 Something happened where she I tend to believe that having 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:51.080 separation from her sister, being isolated from her sister and 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:56.880 her nieces and nephews, then having her best friend die 0:17:56.920 --> 0:18:01.440 by suicide, that would be a ton where you expect 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.399 your partner to be there for you. Was that is 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:07.680 when you would need the most. And like also added element, 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:10.360 a lot of her kids are, you know, going off 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:13.120 to college, moving on the house. It's like an identity 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.399 issue of like, you know, my kids don't need me 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:18.560 as much. But the significance of your best friend, you 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:22.359 like childhood best friend, your witness to your life experiences, 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.840 the person who knows you better than anybody, who you 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:28.320 don't have to explain things to. If I were Kyle's 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:31.120 friend this week, and she'd be like, Kate's great, She's 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:32.960 got to give me a history of you know, fifty 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:37.280 years her friend dies by suicide, and she's isolated from 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.880 her siblings and her nieces and nephews, and they're all 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.520 having life experiences like Paris having a son that she's 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:43.840 not getting access to. 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:46.560 You would expect your partner. 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:48.359 To be there, and if they are not, whether it's 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:51.800 they've cheated or they're checked out because they have their 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:53.879 own reality show and they're trying to get booked on 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:57.320 Dancing with the Stars. He was not there for her 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:02.880 in some way that was such a life changing boundary 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:09.239 crossing issue that she is willing to come forward and 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:12.919 say I am separated and I don't know what the 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:15.640 future is like. I don't think Kyle five years would 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:18.360 have said that. So something something significant happened. 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.080 I never looked at it that way. I think you're 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:27.160 onto something in the sense of listen. I was always 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:30.640 told in any successful marriage, there has to be one 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:34.960 star per household for sure, because it's a. 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.440 I mean my mother said that. Did your mother say that? 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:39.560 My mom said that. She would just say always say 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:41.960 when you find a partner, there can only be one 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.960 star of the show. So when you're the star, they 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:47.520 take a backseat, and conversely, when they're the star, you 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:49.680 take it. There can never be two stars. 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:56.920 No, I'll go on record, I will never date a star. Yeah, 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:01.600 it's not. I don't have time to compete with you. 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:04.760 And when you look at relationships that have lasted until 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:06.800 the end of time, a lot of it has to 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.000 do with the fact of what your mom said in 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:12.800 terms of there has to be somebody who's the star 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:15.159 and the other person takes the back seat, and then 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:18.040 roads can change, but you can't do it. There is 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:22.720 something interesting that when Mauricio got the buying Beverly Hills 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:27.840 shown Netflix, Netflix, that all of a sudden there's been 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:32.800 like these rumors always existed, but now it is so 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:38.639 prevalent to where they're announced a separation and Mauricio's agency 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:42.240 is killing it. He literally has the number one agency 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:46.159 in all of them, in all of like California, you know, 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:54.320 this man left the Hilton Okay, left the family business 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:57.359 and started his own agency, which, in case you guys 0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:00.359 don't know, allegedly that's the main reason why At and 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:04.440 Kyle have issues because Mauricio left the family Hilton agency 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:07.719 to start his own and now he beat them twenty 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:11.680 times over. Yeah, so Mauricio, who never looked better, living 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:15.359 his best life, he now has what he wants. Kyle 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:20.160 no longer probably has the availability to Mauricio. You have Morgan, 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:24.080 who I never heard of until her her tattoos appeared 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:29.640 on the show. By the way, pretty girl, very soft spoken. 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:33.240 I was expecting more of like a death Row Records 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:34.960 little Wayne type of voice. 0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:38.880 You know who? She reminds me of, Oh Leather Tuscadero 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:42.160 from Feeling what was that called Happy Days? 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:45.360 Who is also who is played. 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:50.480 By Susie Quatro, seventies singing ballad star stumbling in Looking 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:52.480 up on YouTube, you will be like, oh my god, 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:55.080 Christy McNichol, she's got the whole look. Can I say 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:57.119 that because I have older sisters so my references can 0:21:57.160 --> 0:21:59.800 be a little bit off, but she looks just like her. 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:01.600 But I will also say this, like there's a lot 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:05.400 of speculation obviously whether or not they're in an intimate relationship. 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:08.159 What we all can agree on is they have an 0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:14.480 emotional connection because of and Kathy's pointed this out too, 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:17.639 Morgan has had a mistectomy, Their mother had a mistectomy. 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:23.720 Morgan has tourettes. There are like things about her that 0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:28.119 I could see, like there's something connection that they've talked about. 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:32.199 Another alluring thing about someone who's significantly younger than you, 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:36.639 who is outside of your bubble. Imagine if you're Kyle 0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:40.679 and by the way, I don't know you know them personally, 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:44.960 but this is my how I perceive things. If you're 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:49.479 Kyle and you've had the same friends for decades and 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:53.800 then someone younger comes in their perspective of you and 0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:58.679 your life can be very Entrancein Yes, an outsider who says, 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:02.760 wait a minute, so like this goes on with your sister, 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:07.080 and then like MAURICEO does this, and you're like, oh 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.679 my god, you're right, Like why do I put up 0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:14.520 with this shit? Why does why is this okay? Somehow 0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:16.920 you will take that from an outsider in a way 0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:20.560 like because Fay is friends with Kathy and Chris Jenner's 0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:24.640 friends with Kathy, and Sutton's friends with Kathy, and I'm 0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:28.200 assuming that a younger person is like, I don't care 0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:32.120 about Kathy, I care about you. That could be very 0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:34.160 very entrancing. 0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:38.040 C K I knew you had the answer, you know 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:38.680 what I mean. 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:41.119