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Speaker 2: Mugs all on Carlos Kingshop dot com. Welcome to Reality

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Speaker 2: with the King. It's me Carlos King, the King of

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Speaker 2: Reality TV and one of the most sought after executive

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Speaker 2: producers in reality television with over ten years of production experience.

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Speaker 2: Once a week from Reality with the King, we'll sit

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Speaker 2: down with my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our

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Speaker 2: favorite reality shows, and revisit unforgettable moments that we are

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Speaker 2: still talking and tweeting about. Hey rain Drops. On today's

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Speaker 2: episode of Reality with the King, I am reunited with

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Speaker 2: my favorite blonde Well no, not Taylor Swift or Beyonce.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about my favorite blonde host who does the

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Speaker 2: absolute most, who I love and a dear friend than mine.

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Speaker 2: The amazing KKSE is back.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me back.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, I just interview to you for

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Speaker 4: a Saturday series and people need to go and listen

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Speaker 4: to that episode because it's the entire personal story growing

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Speaker 4: up in Detroit, ten siblings, well, ten including yourself, how

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Speaker 4: you came out to your parents, working in the industry,

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Speaker 4: advice for people who are moving into a new chapter

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Speaker 4: of business or personal. It's really good. So people shall

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Speaker 4: listen to that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, no, go on kkc's podcast Reality Life with KKSE

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Speaker 2: and listen to this amazing episode that just came out

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Speaker 2: where you guys know, I'm very private, so of course

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Speaker 2: it would take the journalistic skill set of Kate to

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Speaker 2: get me to reveal so much personal stories about myself.

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Speaker 2: But I'm so happy we did it. She made me

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Speaker 2: feel so comfortable and almost cried. I'm like, is this

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Speaker 2: a white crotch? As the interview like what are we

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Speaker 2: doing here?

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Speaker 4: Well, when you told the story about when you came

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Speaker 4: out and your dad, that made me cry. Then I

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Speaker 4: asked you to send me pictures of your siblings and

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Speaker 4: I what did I send to you about your sister?

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Speaker 1: You said, where's her reality show? I mean she's a stunner.

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Speaker 1: She's a stunner and a star.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to my sister Jazzy Bell, who also has

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Speaker 2: a podcast called.

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Speaker 1: Women in Hip Hop.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, She's a star and I love her dearly.

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Speaker 2: You know who else is a star to me?

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Speaker 1: Who? Your brother?

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Speaker 2: No? The Edibles Denise Richards took in this episode.

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Speaker 4: I want to know what happened, Like, do you think

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Speaker 4: she just took too many and too early? They drove

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Speaker 4: her around in that car too long. You know, she

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Speaker 4: lives in Malibu, so the parties in Encino. That's like

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Speaker 4: quite a ride and they had to pick up somebody

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Speaker 4: else along the way, Camille.

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Speaker 3: Yes, do you think like she just overshot it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I think that's how Funny brought that up.

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Speaker 2: I definitely think she has so much time to pass

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Speaker 2: getting away from Malibu, going to pick up Camille, who

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming does live in Beverly Hills, and then having

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Speaker 2: to drive to Encino. Not to mention Kate, I'm pretty

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Speaker 2: sure Denise was nervous.

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Speaker 1: Because she was walking in the light. Yeah, so I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: Listen, allegedly, I'm pretty sure she swallowed and drank a

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Speaker 2: couple of things and it showed due to her nervousness. Because,

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Speaker 2: which is why the producers allegedly brought Camille and Denise

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Speaker 2: I think Denise, by the way, who got paid to

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Speaker 1: Jane. Do you think.

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Speaker 4: The same thing's happening with Sutton and Kyle. How Sutton

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Speaker 4: keeps pushing this conversation about denial denial? Is it because

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Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, listen you and the beauty of you.

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Speaker 2: The conversation that you and I have is we just

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Speaker 2: We go deeper in terms of what we're seeing, what

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Speaker 2: make sure this season was great without Lisa Renna right, Yes,

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Speaker 2: it was. It was the pressures of that because Lisa

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Speaker 1: Alex ba igniter.

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Speaker 2: She's a force igniter, not multiplier. She's a force igniter.

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Speaker 2: Alex Baskin, who was an EP of the show, was

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Speaker 2: on your podcast and I tell this story all the time.

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Speaker 2: When you interviewed him, he said, the difference between OC

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Speaker 2: and Beverly Hills OC cost each other out and Beverly

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Speaker 1: Don't, they don't, they don't do it.

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Speaker 2: And this constant battle between Kyle and Sutton, in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: but they knew that they had to do something because

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Speaker 2: this season was falling flat. And is the only person

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Speaker 2: that has the gravitaze to stand up against Kyle. And

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Speaker 2: I want people to know this. A friend of mine

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Speaker 2: text me and said, which is funny. Kate, a friend

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Speaker 2: who's the force multiplier of Beverly Hills. I'm having lunch

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Speaker 2: with a girlfriend of mine and we're debating who will

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Speaker 2: Carlos Kings say is a force multiplier? So now it's

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Speaker 2: like a topic of conversation at brunch Kate, So, I said,

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Speaker 2: Kyle Richards, and he said, I'm shocked you would say that.

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Speaker 2: I said, listen to me as to why I'm saying it.

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Speaker 2: Kyle understands that she has to move shit around. Let's

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Speaker 2: not get into the fact that she really pushed something

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Speaker 2: Kyle pushed, pushed, pushed Sutton to be crazy Town at

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Speaker 2: the dinner table scene in this past week's episode, Kyle

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Speaker 2: kept asking her say it.

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Speaker 1: What is that you want to say? Just say it.

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Speaker 2: Kyle was giving Sutton permission put it out there. Let's

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Speaker 2: you do. I'm going to get you, which is why

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Speaker 2: she said, Kate, you have some nerve telling talking to

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Speaker 4: I think that they're both full force multipliers, but I

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Speaker 3: I think Sutton is aggressive aggressive.

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Speaker 4: Yes, because Sutton is willing to say things the other

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Speaker 4: But I could not believe the way I think Kyle

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Speaker 1: Was you don't eat, which was like such a low blow.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And also you're drinking a lot, like this is

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Speaker 4: a different version of Kyle that's ever been She would

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Speaker 2: No, because Lisa Renna would have. Yeah, Lisa Renna would have.

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Speaker 2: And because Kyle is the only os.

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Speaker 4: Coke in the bathroom is like the equivalent of the

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Speaker 4: season of like what you're pushing food around your plate?

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Speaker 4: That I was surprised too, because eating issues, surprisingly over

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Speaker 4: and how you eat predominantly I think in white culture too,

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Speaker 1: Like do you watch Miami of course? Yes?

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Speaker 4: Okay, did you remember the scene where Lisa's kids get

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Speaker 4: a pizza? Yes, Lisa's very distracted on a phone conversation

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Speaker 4: with Jody and the kids get a pizza and she says,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that was so weird.

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Speaker 4: It's weird, but it's like I think that happens all

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Speaker 3: I couldn't believe that.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad the producers showed that because I feel like

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Speaker 4: they never show anything happen to do with eating issues.

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Speaker 4: And all of these women are on television now, and

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Speaker 4: I think it got exponentially harder for them, you know,

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Speaker 4: you know, ozembic is like used everywhere, but we've seen

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Speaker 4: it's because the pressure that they put on themselves, you know,

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Speaker 4: the added element of being on television when you have

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Speaker 4: and I get dms like, you know, telling me things

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Speaker 4: what these women get, like dms all the time about

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Speaker 4: you know, you look fatter this season, And I was

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Speaker 4: just surprised that it's taken this long, all these seasons

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Speaker 2: Remember Crystal on Belly Hills was the first person a

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Speaker 2: then we had Joke Jackie Golschneider on Jersey to talk

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Speaker 2: cool of those two women to be that open about that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I have great respect for them for that.

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Speaker 2: Oh No, for sure, because it's it's it's was realistic,

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Speaker 2: especially in the entertainment business, which is why Ozimpic is

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Speaker 2: like the new weight Watchers pill that everyone's taking. I

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Speaker 2: know men who are on a Zimpic, Like, it's not

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Speaker 1: It's this obsession with the weight.

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Speaker 2: So when Kyle brought up to Sutton that you have

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Speaker 2: some nerve talking about my diet when you don't eat

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Speaker 2: and you push your food around, I really wanted the

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Speaker 2: that because prior to that statement, I never I never

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Speaker 2: really even thought about Sutton's eating habits, you know, And

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Speaker 2: now to your point, they're sort of alluding that Sutton

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Speaker 2: is a drinker, you know, like, is she an alcoholic?

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Speaker 2: We always thought possibly that something was just a weirdo

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Speaker 2: in the most complementity way of saying that, but now

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Speaker 2: they're trying to say, no, it's deeper than that, that

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Speaker 2: there could be some mixture of alcohol and medication, which

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Speaker 2: is the same thing that Erica Jane said last season

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Speaker 2: was the reason why she was acting so wacky.

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Speaker 4: So to your point earlier of Alex saying, you know,

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Speaker 4: and also their fights are about petty things. So it's

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Speaker 4: just interesting the concern maybe Lisa Renna's gone house, this

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Speaker 4: show going to be different. These comments are cutting deep. Yes,

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Speaker 4: if you're Sudden and you are on this ballet theater,

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Speaker 4: executive at PIMCO, and you're from the South, then you

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Speaker 4: So frustrated by the marriage that you've had to Mauricio

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Speaker 2: She's like you, Oh no, she's Oh, she's Kyle is fantastic.

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Speaker 2: And she gave something a run for her motherfucking money

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, in next week's episode, she meets

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she talks about her sister.

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Speaker 4: But there's something something happened with MAURICEO. Something happened and

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Speaker 2: I never looked at it that way. I think you're

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Speaker 3: I mean my mother said that. Did your mother say that?

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Speaker 4: My mom said that. She would just say always say

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Speaker 4: You know who? She reminds me of, Oh Leather Tuscadero

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Speaker 4: And she may have thought, maybe this stuff with Kathy

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Speaker 4: Something for her. How refreshing. If it's somebody who comes

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Speaker 2: I don't drink. I have had a drink in like

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Speaker 2: in our business, you're weirdough, So when you find your

439
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 2: community and you find somebody who doesn't do it, you

440
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: engage and converse over something totally different. I also am

441
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: a workout fanatic because when you don't drink, you find

442
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 2: other ways to get this burst of energy. And I

443
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: wake up at five thirty in the morning, I work out.

444
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: I'm a crazy person, right, I relate to Kyle someone

445
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: much in that sense, And you're right, Listen, this is no.

446
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: Shade to her friends.

447
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I agree with you in terms of I don't

448
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 2: think she has anybody in her life probably who doesn't

449
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: need something from her. I don't think Dere's her real

450
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 2: friend in the sense of I think if Dereet was

451
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: not on the show, her and Kyle would have nothing

452
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 2: in common. I think Piku and Mauricio being men, what

453
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: they have in common is the fact that our wives

454
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 2: on this crazy show and they're crazy.

455
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: But Drey needs.

456
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: Kyle because without Kyle, Deriy is nothing on the show.

457
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 4: She has said that after Morgan came into her life

458
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 4: that they don't have the same friendships.

459
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: You're right, And she also said, you don't drink anymore,

460
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: and that was our thing. We would get drunk and

461
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 2: go to Vegas and party. That's not who Kyle is anymore.

462
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: And the reason why Derei feels that way is this,

463
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: when a person gets sober, the biggest fear that they

464
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 2: friends have is I'm going to be axed out because

465
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: I am a drinker and Derey is feeling like she's

466
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: going to be ostracized because she no longer can call

467
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 2: Kyle and say let's have let's let's go to the

468
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: barge with happy Hour, let's go to Vegas and get

469
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 2: fucked up and like dance on people. That that's what

470
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: happens to you. You listen, guys. Anybody who doesn't drink

471
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: knows this. You lose friends. I'm a product of losing friends.

472
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 2: When I stop drinking, you lose friends because you guys

473
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 2: don't have that much in common anymore. And that's why

474
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 2: I love this new Kyle who understands that what you

475
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: said so brilliantly, I now am seeing myself outside of

476
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: this fucking nine oh two and no bubble, And and

477
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,959
Speaker 2: I don't like who I was when she told Mauricio,

478
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: I can't get how many tattoos I want, like I

479
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: can't do what my mom.

480
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 4: I love that scene. She would have never said that

481
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 4: years before she really was a wife. I think people

482
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 4: forget this too when you look back at old episodes,

483
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 4: Like she does all of her kids laundry, she's making

484
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 4: their lunches, like she was a very very hands on mother.

485
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 4: And I would presume he expected the same of himself

486
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 4: in his life, like you know, you need to show

487
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 4: up at every event. I need you to be here.

488
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 3: Also, he's owns a.

489
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,239
Speaker 4: Real estate company, right, he wants his wife, who's a

490
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 4: reality star and has worked in the entertainment industry for

491
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 4: decades to come. She was probably enormously helpful in him

492
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 4: building his business, right. So it was great in that

493
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 4: moment where she's like Hubert, like, you know, you don't

494
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 4: get to look at my body like it's That was

495
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 4: a great scene. That was like a Sister Wives Janelle

496
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 4: and Christine leaving Cody. Yes kind of scene. I love

497
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Speaker 4: it when a woman like finds her.

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Speaker 2: This is Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show. We have to get

527
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: into the big Kathy, who you call.

528
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: The mayor of Beverly Hill.

529
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: So, Kate, I was floored when I'm telling you Kyle

530
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: doesn't give a fuck.

531
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: I love this new Kyle. Kyle, my apologies.

532
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: You should have been in my top ten Greatest Housewives

533
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: of All Time list.

534
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: You were number eleven. She she was number eleven.

535
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: I don't remember that she was eleven.

536
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: Well I never revealed who was eleven, but she wasn't

537
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: into the That's why Kyle is going to replace somebody else.

538
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to redo it. In twenty twenty four, Kyle

539
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: Is when she revealed and challenged Sutton, broke the fourth wall.

540
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: No say it, say what she said to you tell

541
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: everybody's fucking kitchen. When it was revealed, honey, that big

542
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: Kathy called Sutton and cussed her out. The fact that

543
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: Kathy has the power to ice you allegedly out of

544
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: Beverly Hill's parties, which is why when Lisa, Renna and

545
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: Erica Jayne said you did say the F word to

546
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: the DJ, you said it, and Crystal and everybody else

547
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: had amnesia. They all felt in that moment, I'm not

548
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: going to be ostracized from the Beverly Hills socialites.

549
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: I had no idea. Okay, maybe you did.

550
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: I had no idea the power that Kathy Hilton has

551
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: not had.

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00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 4: I think I think that there's this weird wartex there's

553
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 4: real power and perceived power. If she was that powerful,

554
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 4: that was the tweet I put out. If she was

555
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 4: that powerful, she should be the mayor of Beverly Hills.

556
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 4: Like obviously this woman like people do what she says.

557
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 4: I think it's a lot of that is perceived power,

558
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 4: you know, And I think it originates in they're Richard's family.

559
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 4: Like I'm telling you everything that we need to know

560
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 4: about every house wife. I've built a show about it.

561
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 4: You got to go look at someone's origin story and

562
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 4: then all the puzzle pieces fit together. And in the

563
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 4: family of origin, Kathleen Dugan, who was their mother, she

564
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 4: set it up like this with these three sisters that

565
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 4: they all have like their positions and they have decided

566
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 4: to continue with that. This is like an intergenerational thing.

567
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 4: And listen, Beverly Hills is great because it's relatable and

568
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 4: unrelatable at the same time. There's that dichotomy. Yes, it's

569
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 4: relatable because in the in the in Kyle's personal story,

570
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 4: and especially when Kathy was on the show and when

571
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 4: Kim was on the show, we are witnessed to the

572
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 4: family dynamics of these sisters, and there are so many

573
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 4: things that are related about oh To that you and

574
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 4: I can relate to that I'm sure most people can.

575
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 4: At the same time, it's totally unrelatable because it's in

576
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 4: this city where everybody works in the entertainment industry. They're

577
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 4: very beautiful, they have a lot of wealth, they have

578
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 4: access to money and power. It's almost like we're standing

579
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 4: outside their family room window and we're watching them, so

580
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's both unrelatable and relatable. And the

581
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 4: family dynamics that they've chosen to continue even as they

582
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 4: have their own children is that they have these like

583
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 4: three positions where Kathy is like the dictator.

584
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 3: She dictates the rules, like we should behave.

585
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 4: This way, you marry a guy like this, you should

586
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 4: live here, your house should be decorated like and you

587
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 4: can see micro moments where like Kim will walk in

588
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 4: the door and Kathy would be.

589
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: Like, you're gonna wear that. You're really you're gonna wear that.

590
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, these are all positions where they

591
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 4: were kind of set up by their mother and that

592
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 4: they've continued to kind of carry on well after her death.

593
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 4: But that was the power dynamic that the mom set up,

594
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 4: but some of it's still perceived power. That even though

595
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 4: Kyle's in her fifties and she has her own six

596
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 4: sas and her own family and her own set of friends,

597
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 4: her sister still has power over in a way. So

598
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 4: that is real power. The perceived power are the people

599
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 4: that are outside of that family dynamic, the women on

600
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 4: the show, the Crystals and the Suttons. And when Eric

601
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 4: points out in the last episode that what you just said,

602
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 4: like they're all in fear of Kathy because if you

603
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 4: puss her off, like you're gonna cut off, I think

604
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 4: that's perceived power.

605
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: Like is that really a reality? I don't think so.

606
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 4: But the dynamics of these three sisters have somehow trickled

607
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 4: out into their friendship circle. I don't know if fay

608
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 4: Resnick would have the same opinion that the others that

609
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 4: maybe she would, I don't know. But this is why

610
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 4: I find Beverly Hills to be the most fascinating because Kyle,

611
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 4: the producers, their sisters have given us access to the

612
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 4: family dynamics. If you take any Housewife and any other franchise,

613
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 4: they would be exponentially more interesting if we were given

614
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 4: access to their siblings and more to their parents, because

615
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 4: they become even more complicated. The more complicated they become,

616
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 4: the more interesting they become, the more empathy we have

617
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 4: for them, the more we fight for them. Right, if

618
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 4: you just met Teresa Judae and she showed up at

619
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 4: a party, you may not like her as much as

620
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 4: you would because you met her parents, you met her brother,

621
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 4: you met her sister in law, you meet her kids,

622
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 4: and then you're like, oh, there's like so much more

623
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 4: to this person. So I think that people like Beverly

624
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 4: Hills because of the Richard sisters and I'm sorry, like Kyle, Kim, Kathy,

625
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 4: whatever they paid for them, it's worth it because despite

626
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 4: the fact, this is really an Irish Catholic family. And

627
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 4: that's maybe why I get it so much, because it's

628
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 4: like so similar to my own family dynamics. It's relatable

629
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 4: the family dynamics and not here's a question I have

630
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 4: for you.

631
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 3: I was thinking about this a lot today.

632
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 4: Is like I get their dynamics a lot because my

633
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 4: family of origin is similar like an Irish Catholic. I'm Protestant,

634
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 4: but like my mom was raised Catholic. I went to

635
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 4: a Catholic college, so like the way that they're not

636
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 4: allowed to talk about deep issues, like as soon as

637
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 4: they get into it, they cut it off. The way

638
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 4: that Kathy showed up at Kyle's house at the end

639
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 4: of last season and Kyle starts crying and she goes

640
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 4: Kyle Kyle, which is like, shut up, stop crying. That

641
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 4: is very much my culture, Like sweep it under the rug,

642
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 4: pick up your chin. No one wants to hear about

643
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 4: your problems, and this should definitely not be on TV.

644
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 4: How how do you look at that as a black man? Like,

645
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 4: how would it be different if the Dugan Richard's family

646
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 4: or the King family?

647
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 3: Like how what?

648
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: What?

649
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 4: What dynamics are similar to your family and different?

650
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: So that's the thing. It's funny, you're so you're so smart.

651
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: I was gonna bring up.

652
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 2: The black gay perspective of the you know of all

653
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: of this. Obviously, I have nine siblings. I know what

654
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: it's like to operate out of a big family. The

655
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: thing is this, in every siblinghood, you do have a spokesperson.

656
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: You do have a leader, whether it's the mother or

657
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: the father of the ship group. When it's more than

658
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: like three, there is there is like the matriarch and

659
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: the patriarch.

660
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: Right.

661
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 2: What I can relate to with with the Hilton, well

662
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 2: with with with the sisters, right Kim, Kathy and Kyle,

663
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: is the fact that you don't go against the family.

664
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: You just don't.

665
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 2: You don't go against the family, and you don't say

666
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 2: anything to them on camera because Kyle is less worried

667
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 2: about the perception of the fans when it comes to Kathy.

668
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 2: It's more about the damage that is going to happen

669
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 2: behind the scenes that Kathy is allegedly going to do

670
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: that will never see the light of day. And this

671
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: is Kyle's concern on camera. I'll get the blame for

672
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: it because Kathy is going to play along with this

673
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 2: aloof personality she has that the fans eat up right,

674
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: Kyle fear is the world would think I'm the bitch

675
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: when they have no idea that the moment they yell

676
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: rap and we go home, there's going to be months

677
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 2: of me being attacked by Kathy allegedly that the world

678
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 2: will never see.

679
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: And that's what Kyle is so worried about.

680
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 2: That's why she cries or just cut off, cut off

681
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: when she said that if I get let me tell

682
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: you something, which which is not something me and my

683
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 2: siblings ever do when we get into it. We don't

684
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 2: pick the cousins against each other like that's that's I'll

685
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: say it. That's fucked up dark.

686
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 4: It's dark.

687
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: So if if Kyle and Kathy have an issue Paris

688
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: and what's the oldest name, Kyle's oldest daughter, Yeah, Paris

689
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: and Parah can't talk Farah can't Sarah can't be around

690
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: Paris's new son. Maybe that's the fuck. The part about

691
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: this is the fact that in my fam and the

692
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: black family household, when we have issues among siblings, we

693
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: don't We don't bring it to the cousins like that.

694
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: It's separate.

695
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: And that's the reason why the most dangerous person in

696
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills to me.

697
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: Is Kathy in the sense of.

698
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: The perceived power that Sutton and Crystal that they make

699
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: on Kathy is because they see what Kathy.

700
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: Can do with her real blood family, and.

701
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 4: They're like, look, great observation, great observation.

702
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: If this bitch can isolate her her fucking sister, we're pony.

703
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: And that's the reason why, because let's be real, I

704
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: want to get your thoughts.

705
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 4: And by the way, it's dangerous too. Because they're like,

706
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,439
Speaker 4: I can only get so close to her because the

707
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 4: slightest thing that upsets her, I'm off, Like I'm cut off.

708
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: Kathy is so powerful.

709
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 2: They never showed what was in Lisa Renda's Malila envelope

710
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: on the reunion.

711
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: Kathy is so powerful.

712
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 2: Lisa Renna left the reunion and resigned from the show

713
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: because for her, she probably realized even in the midst

714
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: of this, she's being protected allegedly, right, you would think

715
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: Chris Jenner is the most powerful part in Beverly Hills just.

716
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 4: My property of But again, but is this real though.

717
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: Which is why I agree with you. I always thought,

718
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: like kathink that power for Honey's Chris Jenner. But it's

719
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: perceived because they see the power there.

720
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 4: Yes, there is power because it's perceived power. Yes, when's

721
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 4: our college course that we're going to direct?

722
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: Oh, Honey, you see La n Y you look war gates.

723
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 4: Were coming for you at Columbia. But wait, Detorisa Judice

724
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 4: does the same thing that Kathy does, because those cousins

725
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 4: don't talk either.

726
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 1: See don't I don't think no, no, no, they don't talk.

727
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 4: No, they don't talk. They don't follow each other.

728
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: I don't think they talk.

729
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's esa telling her daughters don't

730
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 2: fuck with your cousins.

731
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: That's the difference. I think, Yeah, you're Kathy.

732
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: Kathy allegedly is telling Paris Nikki you're not allowed to

733
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: speak to them, and they're like okay and that or maybe.

734
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 4: She doesn't say it, but they know, let's start.

735
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: Nobody goes against Big Kathy.

736
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 4: I have to. I would love to talk to Kathy

737
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 4: Hilton about her mother. Yes, I really feel like if

738
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 4: we understand Big Kathy in there in a way that's

739
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 4: different than reading the op Jerry Oppenheimer book, which we

740
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 4: all could do, but it's really when you talk to somebody,

741
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 4: you get really a sense of like who their parents

742
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 4: were and what set them up to be the person

743
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 4: that they are, and how they look at parenting and

744
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 4: sibling relationships and friendships.

745
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it all really does make more sense now

746
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: listen the Gults. I think I think there's.

747
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 4: Something happened with Kathy that if we understood her story more,

748
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 4: it would make sense why she's so protective, why she

749
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 4: isolates people, like something must have happened to her as

750
00:43:55,239 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 4: a kid, family dynamics or what life circumstances where he

751
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 4: feels completely vulnerable and or doesn't want to feel vulnerable

752
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 4: and therefore cuts people off.

753
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I agree with you.

754
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: I think you're probably the only person who can get

755
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 2: a solid interview out of Kathy Hilton, because I think

756
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: a lot of people would just fan out, like, oh

757
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: my god, you're so funny and hunky dory and yeah,

758
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 2: team Kathy.

759
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: I think you being a neutral party, like you.

760
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: Don't give a fuck about what team you're like, You're

761
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 2: not on anyone's team here. The beauty of you is

762
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 2: you're able to see things from a deeper perspective.

763
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: And you're able to team truth. Yes, exactly your team.

764
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 4: I'm your team, like understanding and truth.

765
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

766
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 4: I feel like, listen all of these housewives, I feel

767
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 4: like we're all we all want the best for them,

768
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 4: and I feel like a lot of them really just

769
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 4: want to be her heard. Yes, And it's not always

770
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 4: easy to do when you're part of an ensemble cast

771
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 4: and you get like snippets of their personal lives. That's

772
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 4: why I like doing interviews with them, because I really

773
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 4: think that they all have such a unique way of

774
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 4: looking at the world based on their own life circumstances,

775
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 4: and the more you learn about them, the more you

776
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 4: you're kind of like, Okay, well that's the reason they

777
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 4: parent the way. That's the way that they don't always

778
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 4: feel protected in their friendships. Like you could do this

779
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 4: for every single housewife, but I just think Kathy, Kyle,

780
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 4: and Kim are so fascinating because of the added element

781
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 4: of like two of them have been working since there

782
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 4: were kids, Like what is that like? Imagine your own

783
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 4: family if like two of your siblings had been working

784
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 4: in Detroit in commercials and movies, and then at some

785
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 4: point if your parents are reliant on their income that

786
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 4: they generate.

787
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 1: That's a lot. Yeah. Yeah.

788
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 4: Now they live in a city where everything is about

789
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 4: how much power you have, Like that's going to mess

790
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 4: you up too. So that's why I'm saying the power

791
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 4: and the perceived power are are are sometimes hard to

792
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 4: understand in just their family, But then you add like

793
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 4: a city that's all about power and perceived power. Perceived

794
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 4: power is like that person is like like influencers in

795
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 4: modern day era, Like that's perceived power. Do they really

796
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 4: have power?

797
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: Though?

798
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 3: Can they green light movies and TV shows?

799
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 4: Right?

800
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: Right?

801
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 4: But people think because they have like four point two

802
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 4: million followers on TikTok that that's power, it's perceived power.

803
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:45,959
Speaker 2: Hm.

804
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: No, you're right, you're right, You're absolutely right. Like why

805
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: aren't all these TikTokers running for office?

806
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 4: That's like they're so powerful, so many people follow them,

807
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 4: they want to buy it, like, but they don't run

808
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 4: for off best Why because it's perceived.

809
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 1: Its perceived. It's perceived. No, it really, it really is.

810
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 2: And that's the reason why when you look at this episode, listen,

811
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: Denise Richards being on is like whatever, Like, we get it.

812
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: She was, she was, you know, nervous, Nelly nervous, She

813
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:23,959
Speaker 2: was nervous, she drank a little allegedly, yes, exactly. But

814
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 2: what I got from this episode was really the I'm

815
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: going to say it, the perceived power of Kathy and

816
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: I am more interested in seeing how that play out

817
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 2: versus seeing pque redo Pretty Woman Part five with dried

818
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: and the return necklace, Like I really want to dive

819
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: more into what you said, like what is happening in

820
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: Kyle's life to where she now has a voice and

821
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: she she feels so much freedom and you.

822
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: Can you see a different person? Yeah, do you like

823
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: this new Kyle?

824
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 3: I do, but I don't like how mean she can be.

825
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 3: I don't think the moment.

826
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 4: Where she said to Sudden moving the food around the

827
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 4: plate was very kind. It could be very damaging. I

828
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 4: don't think alluding to someone having an alcohol problem is

829
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 4: very kind. And I don't think I would suspect the

830
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 4: reading she's gonna say. I didn't like myself in that moment, yeah,

831
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 4: because I think she's a deeply caring person. Yeah, And

832
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 4: I don't think that she that actually reminded me of

833
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 4: the moments where she was probably drunk, like being snippy.

834
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 4: But you know, you know, we always say people that

835
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 4: are hurt people, right, I think you're seeing somebody who's

836
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 4: deeply in pain at that. But when they were filming that,

837
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 4: and I suspect the longer time goes on, she's gonna

838
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 4: have more clarity. But I didn't like those scenes. But

839
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 4: I I like someone finding freedom. And you know what, frankly,

840
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 4: I like, I like a show where I watched someone

841
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 4: season after season and then suddenly they reveal themselves or

842
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 4: they reveal another interesting part of themselves. And very few

843
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 4: housewives can do that for me, you know, I'm kind

844
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 4: of like, I get it. I know your story, and

845
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 4: you know that you got to hire people for these

846
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 4: shows that are very complex because it's I want to

847
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 4: follow someone's story, and if you're really like pretty bland

848
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 4: and one sided, one note, I'm going to get over

849
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 4: you pretty quickly. I Vicky Gumbelson. But I like that

850
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 4: this is like a whole new chapter, you know.

851
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

852
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 2: No, Kyle's story obviously breathe new life into this season,

853
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: and I'm very intrigued with what she has going on.

854
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 2: I wish the other ladies on the show had enough

855
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 2: personal story to go along with what Kyle is.

856
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: Giving us, because I do agree with you.

857
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: I do feel like this season is lacking real personal story.

858
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: I miss seeing Erica like defend herself and getting like,

859
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 2: you know, the bad bitch persona that she always had.

860
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: Deree forget about it.

861
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 2: We're never getting anything ever again. I've already said that

862
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: three years ago.

863
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 1: She's still on. So that's that, Crystal.

864
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 4: You know what they you know, it's a story that's

865
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 4: kind of they glossed over. I hope they go back to.

866
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 4: Is like the fact that Crystal's brother was heartbroken because

867
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 4: of that breakup and this like this alluding to like

868
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 4: Crystal's hand in that.

869
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 3: That's interesting too.

870
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 4: It's also I mean cultural issues, like Chinese families, are

871
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 4: they like that tight that you're old, the older sister

872
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 4: has power over the younger brother, Like I why, I

873
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 4: wish they would explore that more. I thought that was

874
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 4: really interesting. Of course I'm a lunatic and I DM Crystal.

875
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 4: I was like, I need, like, what's happening with your brother?

876
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 4: Did he mean anybody? She said he's single. And then

877
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, why can't he get back with the girl?

878
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 4: And she said he met somebody else? Oh, I know,

879
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 4: that's so sad. Then I went, why can't he be

880
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 4: the bachelor? And she said, but he's forty two, And

881
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 4: I said, but he's an Asian forty two, which is

882
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 4: an Irish twenty six year old. So I mean, make

883
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 4: that happen.

884
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: No, And by the way, I think he's so hot.

885
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 4: By the way, he's very cute. By the way, let's

886
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 4: not gloss over the fact he's like a major pop

887
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 4: star in China.

888
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, Like what did not know that? But

889
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 2: that's what I want from Beverly Hills, Like, let's give more.

890
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 2: We can't just focus on Kyle. I'm loving it. But

891
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 2: let's listen. That was one scene that I was really

892
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 2: captivated by. But we don't see we haven't seen it.

893
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, they were like.

894
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 4: Oh, we got it, we gotta chase this story. I

895
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 4: also think some of the Erica stuff, I wonder if

896
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 4: they're couching it because they're going to use it for

897
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 4: that too. Episodes special where we follow her a Las Vegas.

898
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe.

899
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 4: I think Durreet has phoned it in for a long time.

900
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 4: But maybe the truth is there are lots of people

901
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 4: in this world who are really nice, interesting people, but

902
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 4: they're just not great for television.

903
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: Maybe she's just like we are.

904
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 4: You can learn her whole story in one season, you know,

905
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 4: like she doesn't have the longitevity because she's not maybe

906
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 4: complex enough. Or I would say, if I were a producer,

907
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 4: which obviously I'm not, I would say, why don't we

908
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 4: explore more of her origin story? Like her I think

909
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 4: her parents are from Israel. Oh, and so it's like, Okay,

910
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 4: she grew up in Connecticut, Like what is that like

911
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 4: to be like raised by parents from another country? Like

912
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 4: what was that like in Connecticut? And then you know

913
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 4: she was traveling all over the world working in the

914
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 4: fashion industry. I feel like they kind of touched on that.

915
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 4: Maybe they her first season, but maybe there's more there

916
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 4: that that could be What is it like to be

917
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 4: a Jewish woman in America in the year twenty twenty four,

918
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 4: Like that would be like the story that I would

919
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 4: want to chase a bit.

920
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what what's that like in Beverly Hills And

921
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 2: what does that mean for your social circle and all

922
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 2: that stuff. Yeah, I really listen. This season is lacking

923
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 2: substance for me. I enjoy the dinner party, but I

924
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 2: enjoyed it because it brought more information that we just

925
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 2: didn't know, and that, to me is what's fascinating about

926
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,720
Speaker 2: these past two episodes. We'll see what happens next week,

927
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,439
Speaker 2: but I really want them to focus more on that

928
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 2: and seeing how that dinner party hopefully produced more great

929
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: moments that we'll see afterwards. Lastly, I am interested in

930
00:53:58,560 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: is a Marie the New.

931
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 1: So We're psych your Psychic?

932
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 4: Because I was just gonna say I didn't like the

933
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 4: clip where Anne Marie is asking uh Sutton about the

934
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 4: esophagus issue because she's an anesthesiologist, I believe, and remember

935
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 4: she had the conversation with Kyle. Kyle was like, I

936
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 4: think it's weird. She says, like things get caught in

937
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 4: her esophagus, and then Amory's like is it a sphincter issue?

938
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 4: Like what? And it looks like she's like in a

939
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 4: group of other people kind of drilling down on Ston

940
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 4: like well, this esophagus story, like it doesn't make any sense.

941
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 4: Now if it's true, let's live in that vortex. Like

942
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 4: if it is true that Sutton does have some eating issues,

943
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 4: which we don't know if it's true, but it's been

944
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 4: like alluded to. I'm not going to feel good about

945
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 4: a scene where someone's like this story doesn't add up

946
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 4: or you like, do you have anorexia?

947
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: Like that would be pretty gross and yeah.

948
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 4: That's dark, Like I don't know if people really want

949
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 4: to see that. You know, people would like to see

950
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 4: a scene where maybe Sutton is on a hike with

951
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 4: somebody like a Kyle and Kyle talks about like, you know,

952
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 4: I grew up in an industry where I was a

953
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 4: six year old on a movie set and I'm being told,

954
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 4: you know, you got to watch what you eat and

955
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 4: the very realistic pressures because we can't forget that Sutton

956
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 4: was a ballerina, yeah, and like, well they need to

957
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 4: explore that too, Like what is it like to be

958
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 4: a ballerina? Like I'm a daughter who's a dance and

959
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 4: I don't know anything about I'm a sports mom really

960
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 4: at heart, I played college sports, and as an outsider

961
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 4: to this dance world, I'm like, wait, what like the

962
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 4: things that people say to dancers about their weight, and

963
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 4: then you think about how much worse it would be

964
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 4: if you were a she I believe was a very

965
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,959
Speaker 4: good ballerina, like I think she danced in New York

966
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 4: and the pressure of like your body, That, to me,

967
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 4: is a much more effective conversation. That's a conversation starter

968
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 4: and could be really healing to a lot of the women.

969
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 4: That frame is the majority of the audience. That, to

970
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 4: me is a much more effective and powerful conversation than

971
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 4: this esophagus story is like bullshit, And you know you're

972
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 4: the one who pushed food around your plate, Like I

973
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 4: don't feel like that's what we should be doing in

974
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 4: the year twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four.

975
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: No, no, I cannot agree more with that.

976
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 2: I'm definitely intrigue with what a Marie has going on

977
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 2: outside of buddy.

978
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, like who is she? Yeah? Like, what's her story?

979
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 5: I want to see They're they're positioning her to be

980
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 5: belittling to a woman about her eating issues without providing

981
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 5: the audience opportunity to get to know her.

982
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 3: Don't you think that's kind of setting her up for disaster?

983
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: Uh?

984
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is why I'm lying, because the audience is

985
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,439
Speaker 2: going to be that yeah. Yeah.

986
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 4: Like like she talked about how she was an athlete,

987
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 4: she's married to an athlete. I want to know her

988
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 4: personal story. I don't like how they kind of just

989
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 4: like threw her into a dinner scene either. I would

990
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 4: have like like something where I learned more about her

991
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 4: before she just shows up to a party. But I

992
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 4: feel like that's a lot of housewives now, Like New

993
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 4: York we saw that too. It's like and then they're together,

994
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 4: and I don't know, maybe I'm old school that way,

995
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 4: like I need a little.

996
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 3: I need a little bit of appetizer before the dinner.

997
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna say something to you because obviously I

998
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: produce shows and create them too. A new season one

999
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 2: of my shows were filming it long story shure, we're

1000
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: adding someone new to the cast and the first time

1001
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 2: she filmed with us. It was a big explosive argument

1002
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: she had with a cast member, like huge, it was

1003
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 2: major and the whole time, I said, this can't be

1004
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 2: how people meet her for the first time. Yeah, you

1005
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 2: can't meet her at a group event and she's arguing

1006
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 2: with a fellow cast member.

1007
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: That can't be it.

1008
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 2: I said, we have to show who she is at

1009
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: home first. You have to like rest in her world

1010
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 2: and know who she is and feel like, oh, I

1011
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 2: know you. So when you see them argue like Okay,

1012
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: now I really know you. But that can be the

1013
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: first time you meet them, because you're gonna be like

1014
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 2: what You're either thirsty, you're trying too hard, and it

1015
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 2: doesn't connect to the audience.

1016
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: So you're absolutely right about that.

1017
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: If we would have met Kyle going over Amory's house,

1018
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 2: I'm having a dinner party.

1019
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: I would love you to.

1020
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 2: Come cut to like a package of a Marie with

1021
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 2: her husband and the kids, seeing her world. Then when

1022
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,439
Speaker 2: she gets there being nosy, You're like, yeah, that's who

1023
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: she is, and I'm now I know.

1024
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: Her at least. Yes.

1025
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, But overall, I enjoyed these past two episodes, So

1026
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills, I'll say this once, I'll say it again,

1027
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: Alex Baskin, please.

1028
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: Hire Kate Casey as a producer or a consultant. I know.

1029
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying it publicly, So Alex.

1030
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 4: Ai, they do a great job higher Kate.

1031
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: You know, I just I am.

1032
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 4: A big fan of production because I think the audience

1033
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 4: really rips on them when they don't like something. But

1034
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 4: I just this is a team of people who work.

1035
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 4: They're fans of the show too, and they work really

1036
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 4: really hard. They are embedded in people's homes and lives

1037
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 4: and they get to know the cast very well. And

1038
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 4: I think they're all doing the best they can to

1039
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 4: do really great storytelling. And yeah, sometimes people miss things,

1040
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 4: but you know, it's a really tough, tough job, and

1041
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 4: I just like great storytelling.

1042
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: Now listen, Belly Hills is number one for a reason

1043
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 2: and it's the best. But I still want them to

1044
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 2: hire you because I want them to I.

1045
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: Want the women to go deeper. And I think it

1046
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: takes a moment.

1047
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: Like you, who is a housewife to say no, Sister,

1048
00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 2: I actually relate to you, and like, I know, I

1049
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 2: know what's going on, and I'm telling you what I

1050
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: want to see because I'm your audience.

1051
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 3: By the way, that's why I'm like, why am I

1052
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 3: not on Watch What Happens Live?

1053
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: Ask me.

1054
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 4: I'm a real housewife. I got five kids at home.

1055
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 4: I got a husband that works all the time. Like

1056
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 4: I'm in the thick of it, Like I can give

1057
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 4: you a perspective.

1058
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm telling you. That's why I've listened.

1059
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, Thank you for thank you for.

1060
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: A producer credit at least consulting something. Okay, thank you, well, Kate,

1061
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 2: You're welcome.

1062
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: Thank you once again. We always have a good time together.

1063
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 2: Please let the rain drops know where they can find

1064
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: you following support you although they already know you.

1065
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: Boo.

1066
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 4: Well, the podcast is Reality of Life with Kay Casey,

1067
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 4: and you have to listen to Saturday's episode with Carlos because.

1068
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 3: You know him and you love him.

1069
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 4: I really think that you're going to just be so

1070
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 4: touched by his story. And if you don't cry about

1071
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 4: the story about when his father found out that he

1072
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 4: was out of the closet, you don't have a heartbeat.

1073
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 4: It's a great story. And also I think that your

1074
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 4: listeners will love my must watch list, which comes out

1075
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 4: every Monday. You sign up for it at Katecasey dot

1076
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 4: substack dot com. Every Monday, in your inbox, you're going

1077
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 4: to get a list of what to watch this week,

1078
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 4: and I'm going to give you things that are from

1079
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 4: different networks and different genres sports, Like for example, this

1080
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 4: week you got to watch Coach Prime on Amazon Prime

1081
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 4: about Dion Sanders. It's such a great show if you

1082
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,439
Speaker 4: love sports. You should also watch Murder in Boston, which

1083
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 4: is a true crime docuseries three parts about a man

1084
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 4: who killed his pregnant wife in Boston and he lied

1085
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 4: about who did it and it caused all this this

1086
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,479
Speaker 4: aftermath of racial relations. And also there's like a good

1087
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 4: cult doc on right now called Love His wand about

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Speaker 4: this Banana's woman named Amy Carlson who became what she

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Speaker 4: called Mother God and she's You're gonna die. She believed

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Speaker 4: that she was getting messages from the intergalactic Federation of

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Speaker 4: Light and that included Robin Williams, and that they were

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Speaker 4: sending messages to her, and all of the members of

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Speaker 4: the cult moved to be with her, and they would

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Speaker 4: drink colloidal silver so her like skin turned purple. And

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Speaker 4: so when she died because she went into organ failure,

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Speaker 4: they wrapped her dead body in a sleeping bag in

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Speaker 4: Christmas lights and covered her with glitter and they made

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Speaker 4: a shrine to her. I'm not kidding you.

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Speaker 3: This is on HBO Max.

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Speaker 1: So this is why you need to.

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Speaker 4: Sign up, because I'm going to tell you things that

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Speaker 4: you need to watch, and you can get archive list,

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Speaker 4: you can go back two months ago.

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Speaker 1: What I didn't know about this at all.

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Speaker 4: So I and I really do bring people together. I'm

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Speaker 4: not kidding, Like, I'll get dms like I could not

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Speaker 4: watch anything with my spouse or my sister like, and

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Speaker 4: I'll give you stuff to watch.

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Speaker 1: So do that.

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Speaker 4: Facebook group Reality Life the kksey, Patreon for bonus episodes,

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Speaker 2: TikTok and yes baby, my YouTube channel where you can

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Speaker 2: get all of my visuals baby, my expressions. Yes, and

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Speaker 2: with the King is a production of Kingdom Reign Entertainment.

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Speaker 2: It is produced by Sierra Spragley Rix An executive produced

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