WEBVTT - Mo Collins Kicked a Ghost Out of Her House

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<v Speaker 1>What's that a bed? It's spooky and joky. I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ghosted, I gas nandas Pllease hey boo, it's me

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<v Speaker 1>Ros and welcome to Ghosted by Ros Hernandez, the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy how Moe Collins is on the show, and I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is one of the best episodes we have

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<v Speaker 1>had in the history of this show. I mean, just incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, Mocollins is an idol of mine. I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up watching her on Mad TV. She is just

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<v Speaker 1>such a spectacular comedy actor, just comedian in general, so funny,

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<v Speaker 1>so fun And turns out she lived in a haunted house. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>actually she lives in a house that was haunted and

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<v Speaker 1>is no longer haunted. Okay, so that means we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get the full story. It's a good one. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>good one. I'm excited for you to hear it. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to come see me live. I'm touring

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<v Speaker 1>established Schmientz and uh, We're going to have a good

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<v Speaker 1>time and I would love to see you there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here is my conversation with Mo Collins on with the

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<v Speaker 1>show Mo Collins High.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm like, I've already told you this bike

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<v Speaker 1>at very starstruck around you mad TV people. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you people raised me.

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<v Speaker 2>You all say that my first were supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>in bed, weren't you.

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<v Speaker 1>It was on the weekends.

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<v Speaker 2>Still a lot of you stayed up, you know, late.

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<v Speaker 1>And it stayed with us. And I really do think

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<v Speaker 1>that people in comedy that are millennial age, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>so much comes like we learned so much from you?

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<v Speaker 2>What did you? What could you possibly have learned from us?

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<v Speaker 1>So much?

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<v Speaker 2>I think about it, I'm like, what did what did

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<v Speaker 2>we actually teach you?

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<v Speaker 1>You taught us. I mean there's a lot of characters

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<v Speaker 1>from that people have done over the years that we

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<v Speaker 1>were just like, oh, I don't even remember. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>many that each of you did that were original characters

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<v Speaker 1>agreed that are so memorable. Yeah, yeah, my first guest

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<v Speaker 1>that I've ever so I've done this Peca since twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and Deborah Wilson was my first guest ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and wow, she.

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<v Speaker 1>Is one of these people that's just got the best stories.

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<v Speaker 1>She has so many ghost stories and just she was

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<v Speaker 1>such an incredible guest. And then I'm talking to you

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<v Speaker 1>and You're like, I have so many ghost stories. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know if we'd have time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, this is.

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<v Speaker 1>The best thing I can hear to make my childhood

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<v Speaker 1>idols even better. They come with ghost stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's pull out my trauma.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the traumatic ghost stories? Fun ghost stories. Wait, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>it can be that's all part of it. You never know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got stories. Okay I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you grow up believing in ghosts or no?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, not particularly No. I mean I was an easily

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<v Speaker 2>scared child, and honestly I'm still an easily scared person,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, But ghosts, I don't know. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that I actually believed in them beyond you know, beyond

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<v Speaker 2>just sort of like ooh, it's a ghost. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>like kids just are like, what was that? Oh it's

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<v Speaker 2>a ghost? Is a ghost?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, but also, no, did you ever do ouiji

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<v Speaker 1>boards or anything like that or Bloody Mary.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably, yeah, And I know I was terrified, like anytime

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<v Speaker 2>any of that stuff, I did get scared. Look, I

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<v Speaker 2>was raised, you know, Catholic. Yeah, so there's just that

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<v Speaker 2>whole the mystery of life itself is terrifying, could be terrifying,

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<v Speaker 2>and just there's just sort of yeah, the mystique of

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<v Speaker 2>things would scare me, even within Catholicism, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>how violent like Jesus on across and through town like

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff. Really, you know it really it was appalling

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<v Speaker 2>to me and terrifying to me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a horror story. It's a horror that we were

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<v Speaker 1>just taught because I grew up Catholic too, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, yeah, this is just like a story

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like a great thing. It's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>We talk about the nails through his hands and feet,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so more we're just gonna gloss over that and

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<v Speaker 2>put our hands together and pray for him like that

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<v Speaker 2>was that's horrific. Yeah, And as children were seeing these things,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just you know, it's our first foray into horror.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I was always into the fucked up stuff, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I've just liked that and and I'm realizing now that

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<v Speaker 1>my parents. I'm very grateful for it because I watched

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<v Speaker 1>mad TV and stuff as a kid, but like, they

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<v Speaker 1>probably could have paid attention a little bit more to

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff I was watching, because I would watch like

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<v Speaker 1>like the Exorcist and like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh this movie, God, I couldn't. We had The Exorcist

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<v Speaker 2>in a bookshelf, on our bookshelf at home.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm telling you just the cover alone. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>remember the cover of it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yah, It's just like a face or something.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not even anything. Yeah, it's the suggestion of something

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<v Speaker 2>that in the Amityville Horror. We had that in the

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<v Speaker 2>bookshelf too, just those little glimpses of things. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to read the book. I wouldn't read the book.

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<v Speaker 2>It my imagination. I was so easily terrorized.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was a k the movie stick Mada came out.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember that movie?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I didn't watch any of anything scary.

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<v Speaker 1>This was Patricia our Cat Oh, I love her. Probably

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<v Speaker 1>in the early two thousands or something, and that movie

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<v Speaker 1>was about do you know about the stigmata? It's like

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<v Speaker 1>this Catholic thing. Yeah, okay, yes, the holes in your

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<v Speaker 1>hands start appearing like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm just yeah, I've got a stigmata.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I've got the holes in my hands.

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<v Speaker 2>I accidentally put a screwdriver through my hands one night,

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<v Speaker 2>one time, carving wood in my backyard as a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>I had a stigma.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were the stigma.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, had it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And I hid it from my mother because she did.

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<v Speaker 2>I passed out in the backyard and she was on

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<v Speaker 2>the telephone and she could see me. But when I

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<v Speaker 2>came to im like, don't let her know anything happened.

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<v Speaker 2>But I had literally just I still have the scar.

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<v Speaker 2>I stabbed myself.

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<v Speaker 1>And you never got it fixed.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I wasn't going to tell my mom because I

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<v Speaker 2>would have gotten in trouble for playing with the shoe driver.

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<v Speaker 1>That could have been really sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like, oh I got off a leg, but

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<v Speaker 2>can't let mom know, you know, get in trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>Just bleed out.

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<v Speaker 2>Just so much fear surrounding my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's catholic, really, yeah, absolutely, So when did you

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<v Speaker 1>first encounter something that was like ghosty or unexplainable.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've been in this house for twenty five years,

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<v Speaker 2>the one you're in now. I am okay, I am

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<v Speaker 2>still there. This happened a while ago. Well, actually there

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<v Speaker 2>were there were events things that were happening in the

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<v Speaker 2>house prior to the big event, which I'll get to.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that foreshadowy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's like there are things that I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of I could pass off as just weird nothing's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>things like my cat going after a certain spot up

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<v Speaker 2>above my bed all the time. There were numerous events

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, lights just light bulbs just going out

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<v Speaker 2>even though they're like a new light bulb. Pass it

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<v Speaker 2>off as electric. All these things my son talked about

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<v Speaker 2>somebody in his closet, you know, he was little. I

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<v Speaker 2>passed it off, and until there was a point, a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years into living there, that a woman showed

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<v Speaker 2>up at the door and she was crying, and she says,

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<v Speaker 2>I used to live here. I lived here with my

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<v Speaker 2>grandma and grandpa. She was raised by them. And she

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<v Speaker 2>points over to this corner in the living room and goes,

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<v Speaker 2>he died right over there. And I was like, oh, interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, but what was implied in this visit from

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<v Speaker 2>her her bedroom was where my son's bedroom was. Then

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<v Speaker 2>she implied that there was bad things that happened. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and she described him and it was the

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<v Speaker 2>same description as what my son had said, which I

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I didn't like it, but again I just didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I passed it off as nothing really, Yeah, just weird, right,

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<v Speaker 2>just something weird cut to Oh, and there's other things

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<v Speaker 2>like the TV just going berserk. Like one time I

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<v Speaker 2>thought the TV was going to electrocute me as I

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<v Speaker 2>tried to turn it off because it was like doing

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<v Speaker 2>this weird sparking thing and I'm like, this is just crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna unplug it. And I had it was

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<v Speaker 2>so sparking so bad. I told my little son get

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<v Speaker 2>out of the room because I didn't want him to

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<v Speaker 2>see me get like electrocuting.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, then got to two thousand and seven when

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<v Speaker 2>I was court ordered to sell the house in a divorce,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a very emotional time obviously for somebody. So

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<v Speaker 2>my emotions are crazy, and I you know, some would

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<v Speaker 2>say that the house was feeling that too, And so

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<v Speaker 2>there was a It was the day before the house

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<v Speaker 2>was going to go on the market, and prior to

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<v Speaker 2>that going on the market, there were a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>updates that needed to be done on the house.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you wake up ghosts. That's what people said.

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<v Speaker 1>You start renovating, the ghosts come out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah. So even like, there's a friend who was

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<v Speaker 2>doing some work in a bathroom and this light bulb

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<v Speaker 2>just kept He had to leave it because it just

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<v Speaker 2>kept sparking and doing crazy stuff, again passing it off

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<v Speaker 2>as electric. Another person said they saw some people in

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<v Speaker 2>a mirror. I just took it out as he had

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<v Speaker 2>a history of cocaine.

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<v Speaker 1>This was somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>When somebody that was helping me get the house ready,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, a friend. And so it's the day before.

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<v Speaker 2>My emotions are running high because I did not want

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<v Speaker 2>to sell the house. I wanted to stay in the

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<v Speaker 2>house with my son.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was the night before and we had finished

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<v Speaker 2>all of the work that needed to be done. It

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<v Speaker 2>was going to go on the market open house the

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<v Speaker 2>next day. And I'm out in the backyard and another

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<v Speaker 2>goddamn bulb, an external bulb, just flashed and went out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was pissed because I was like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>started yelling at it. Whatever it was. I'm like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>real big big whoop ooh another light bulb. You you

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<v Speaker 2>got me the old light bulb and Then I walked

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<v Speaker 2>back into the back door into the kitchen, and another

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<v Speaker 2>light bulb goes out. I keep walking another one and

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<v Speaker 2>the other end of the kitchen goes out poof into

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<v Speaker 2>the dining room. That bulb goes out poof into the

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<v Speaker 2>living room, and that fucking bull went out. Oh, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was terrified. I was terrified, but still passed it off. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this is weird and fuck you whatever. If

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<v Speaker 2>this is not these are just light bulbs. I'll replace

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<v Speaker 2>these light bulbs. Then a friend was over a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit later, showing them the house, how it looks great

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<v Speaker 2>for the open house, and I'd walk them out the

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<v Speaker 2>front door out into the yard where lad it's a

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<v Speaker 2>good friend. We're laughing our butts off, having a good time,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's dark and I walk back into the living room. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even like to think about it. I walk

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<v Speaker 2>back into the living room and two feet in comes

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<v Speaker 2>a sound that literally turned my world inside out. It was,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm gonna try and describe the sound, it was

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<v Speaker 2>as if somebody opened up like and oar ship the

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<v Speaker 2>big steel doors. It flipped me inside and out, and

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<v Speaker 2>not like I was in a good mood on the phone,

0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:12.079
<v Speaker 2>laughing with another friend, having a good time, and that happened,

0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.559
<v Speaker 2>and I went running out of the house because it

0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.640
<v Speaker 2>scared me so bad, and it also made my cat

0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:23.000
<v Speaker 2>run and it was right next to me, this sound.

0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.800
<v Speaker 2>And so then I'm out in the yard, completely shook

0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.560
<v Speaker 2>and trying to explain to my friend what I had

0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:35.720
<v Speaker 2>just heard and what just happened. And he on my

0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:41.360
<v Speaker 2>behalf called a person who clears homes, and I went

0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.040
<v Speaker 2>to the Starbucks and just waited for that person because

0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:45.920
<v Speaker 2>there was no way I was going back into that house.

0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.280
<v Speaker 2>That's good, Like, that's the extreme of it is. There's

0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.480
<v Speaker 2>no way I'm going back in that house. I'm done

0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.800
<v Speaker 2>being in that house. Whatever that was does not want

0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.160
<v Speaker 2>me there. It is not friendly. It like just I

0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:04.720
<v Speaker 2>was inside out out. I should also say that for

0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.720
<v Speaker 2>ten months, my son, after his father had left the house,

0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:12.320
<v Speaker 2>stayed in my bed with me. He was, you know, young,

0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.800
<v Speaker 2>he was ten, and because he was too scared in

0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:19.120
<v Speaker 2>his room, so he was at his dad's that weekend

0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:23.040
<v Speaker 2>and I'd go into the house. Now with this medium

0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.120
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, I don't even know what their title would be.

0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:30.720
<v Speaker 2>She was going to use bear medicine. Bear spiritual, whatever's to.

0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Rid, whatever works.

0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Whatever works, man, whatever works. But I did not want

0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.320
<v Speaker 2>to go it. So she starts, she goes into you know,

0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:46.000
<v Speaker 2>my son's bedroom and starts talking about the old man,

0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.040
<v Speaker 2>the person that used to live here, that died in

0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:49.520
<v Speaker 2>the house.

0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:54.240
<v Speaker 2>So she starts talking about she clears the room with

0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:57.360
<v Speaker 2>whatever she does, and then she goes and she starts

0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.120
<v Speaker 2>pointing out all these places that over the years there

0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:03.680
<v Speaker 2>had been these things. Behind the TV. She goes into

0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:05.720
<v Speaker 2>the bathroom where my friend couldn't get the light bulb.

0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:10.040
<v Speaker 2>She goes, that's the portal. She she you know, just

0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:14.120
<v Speaker 2>I had not given her any information. This is her

0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:18.040
<v Speaker 2>walking and cold to my house. She goes to all

0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.520
<v Speaker 2>these places where all of these things had happened, and

0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:22.840
<v Speaker 2>she's pointed out this there and she's like, this is

0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:26.320
<v Speaker 2>not a happy entity and there's more than one and

0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:31.040
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get rid of I'm like, great, because I

0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:32.800
<v Speaker 2>got an open house tomorrow.

0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.040
<v Speaker 1>That's not a good look if you're trying to sell

0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.600
<v Speaker 1>the house. There's a portal exactly.

0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:44.400
<v Speaker 2>So she she did all these clearing things, and she

0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:46.440
<v Speaker 2>she also says to me, she's like, if you hear

0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:51.200
<v Speaker 2>a KerPlunk in the pool. Don't worry about it, Yeah,

0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.600
<v Speaker 2>because that's where she was sending them.

0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Into the pool. Yeah, she was drowning.

0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:59.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm so crazy. Yes, it all just sounds crazy on

0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.320
<v Speaker 2>this podcast even care you know. I just but I

0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.080
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to go back in. But I also did

0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:06.800
<v Speaker 2>not stay there.

0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Then.

0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:12.040
<v Speaker 2>I stayed at a friend's house then that weekend. But

0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.399
<v Speaker 2>the real estate agent, I was like, do I have

0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:17.800
<v Speaker 2>to be there for the open house? I mean, can

0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:19.439
<v Speaker 2>you are you able to just sort of like go

0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:21.520
<v Speaker 2>in and do all that? And they're like, yeah, no problem.

0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:25.240
<v Speaker 2>So I went to a movie in the afternoon with

0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.080
<v Speaker 2>a friend of mine, and I came out of the

0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:31.880
<v Speaker 2>movie and there's all these voice messages from the real

0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:38.960
<v Speaker 2>estate agent. Yeah yeah, couldn't couldn't stop the water from

0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:43.280
<v Speaker 2>running out of the faucets, including after she turned the

0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:46.240
<v Speaker 2>water power, the whole water thing off, the water main,

0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.520
<v Speaker 2>just the water. Yeah, so she had to cancel the

0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:57.480
<v Speaker 2>open house. I know, I know, I know, this is

0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.840
<v Speaker 2>so good. Yeah. And then I'm on the phone with

0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:04.239
<v Speaker 2>them kind of explaining, well, okay, so I had this

0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:07.400
<v Speaker 2>person over last night that cleared the house because there's

0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:12.240
<v Speaker 2>been some stuff uh huh. And he's like, okay, well,

0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:14.480
<v Speaker 2>let me go try some because some lights we're doing

0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:16.320
<v Speaker 2>some stuff too. And he goes, let me just go

0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.520
<v Speaker 2>shut off the lights and we'll just shut it down.

0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:20.400
<v Speaker 2>No open house. And I'm like okay, and I'm still

0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:24.879
<v Speaker 2>on the phone with them, and he shuts off the

0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:28.080
<v Speaker 2>lights and then he's going out and the light just

0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:35.000
<v Speaker 2>popped back on and he started screaming. He's like, that

0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.199
<v Speaker 2>just turned it off. That's just came back on. I

0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:41.479
<v Speaker 2>am out of here. I am out here. Yeah. So

0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:47.280
<v Speaker 2>according to the medicine woman, it could take a couple

0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:50.359
<v Speaker 2>of days for them to dunk themselves in the goddamn pool.

0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:56.120
<v Speaker 2>How absurd is all of this. It's just absurd. And

0:18:56.440 --> 0:19:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I then gathered from some other people. I got holy water,

0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:06.040
<v Speaker 2>I got crystals. Yes, because here's the thing. My son

0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.200
<v Speaker 2>had been staying at his dad's all weekend, but he

0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:11.080
<v Speaker 2>was going to be coming home after school on Monday.

0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:14.679
<v Speaker 2>So I have to act normal, right, I have to

0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:21.439
<v Speaker 2>be back in that house God. So I stayed there

0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Sunday night alone, and I did all the holy water stuff.

0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.880
<v Speaker 2>I did the crystals. I called on the holy spirit. Oh,

0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:34.240
<v Speaker 2>my old friends, you bet I did, you bet your

0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:38.879
<v Speaker 2>goddamn bottom dollar. I'm calling on the Holy Spirit to

0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:41.000
<v Speaker 2>protect me in this house.

0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:41.639
<v Speaker 1>Ye.

0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:48.240
<v Speaker 2>And I woke up and everything felt great. I pick

0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.399
<v Speaker 2>up my son from school and he goes into his

0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:55.639
<v Speaker 2>room and he says, I, like my room, I'm going

0:19:55.720 --> 0:20:01.159
<v Speaker 2>to staying in here now? What what? He had no

0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:05.600
<v Speaker 2>idea what had just happened. His spirit works, but the dude,

0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:09.160
<v Speaker 2>his room was okay to him all of a sudden,

0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:13.480
<v Speaker 2>after all of this, after the clearing, everything felt okay,

0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:15.760
<v Speaker 2>and he slept in there from that night on.

0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Did you hear a plunk?

0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:21.399
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't around here, goddamn kurpplunk. I wasn't going to

0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:23.760
<v Speaker 2>go swimming with the ghosts. I wasn't gonna like, can

0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:25.080
<v Speaker 2>I get anybody a towel?

0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:28.119
<v Speaker 1>You know, I would have never gone in that pool.

0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Whatever. Sorry, thanks for staying at the You know, no,

0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:39.800
<v Speaker 2>I didn't but my house after that, especially because everything

0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:41.959
<v Speaker 2>was like cleaned up for the open house, it was

0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:44.880
<v Speaker 2>absolutely people would come into like the energy in here

0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:52.200
<v Speaker 2>is really good. Wow. People that had no idea.

0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I and that was it never came back. No, and

0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:58.560
<v Speaker 1>so you you said you still are there now I'm

0:20:58.560 --> 0:20:59.119
<v Speaker 1>still there.

0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah, yeah, like we cleared it. Like if that

0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.639
<v Speaker 2>was you know, Bernie was his name, if that was

0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Bernie sticking around after he died in the front window,

0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:15.399
<v Speaker 2>and whoever else he invited into party, Yeah, you know,

0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:20.720
<v Speaker 2>they were gone. Whoa. I mean, I don't I don't

0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:24.280
<v Speaker 2>have any other recourse here but to believe what happened

0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:28.600
<v Speaker 2>because I was there and what was happening was truly inexplicable,

0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:32.840
<v Speaker 2>you know. But I was definitely a skeptic prior, like

0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:35.320
<v Speaker 2>just I could say, oh, that's an electrical issue, or

0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:39.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, just that's the cats just kind of likes

0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:41.679
<v Speaker 2>that spot on the wall. But that was also one

0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:45.359
<v Speaker 2>of the spots that the medium said, oh right here.

0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my god, Like for years the cat

0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:50.439
<v Speaker 2>had been going at that spot.

0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:53.359
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I have a few questions, yeah, yeah.

0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Do you.

0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:58.439
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that it ramps up because of like

0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:01.600
<v Speaker 1>the renovation or do you think that you were leaving

0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:04.280
<v Speaker 1>and he he didn't.

0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:08.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that. I think it was probably a

0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:11.520
<v Speaker 2>combination of things, you know, in looking back, like my

0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:17.919
<v Speaker 2>energy was off the charts, chaos, heartbreak, you know, just

0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:21.040
<v Speaker 2>so many things. My attachment to that house, I mean,

0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:23.959
<v Speaker 2>as look, I've been there twenty five years now. I

0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:26.320
<v Speaker 2>was very attached to that house. Then I didn't want

0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:30.160
<v Speaker 2>to leave. The courts were making me leave. I ended

0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:34.200
<v Speaker 2>up refinancing a horrible way, and I'm you know, I'll

0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:37.960
<v Speaker 2>be paying off that house forever. But I'm divorced from him.

0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:42.159
<v Speaker 2>So that worked. But my emotions were crazy, and I

0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:45.720
<v Speaker 2>don't know if that was a poltergeist scenario.

0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:49.439
<v Speaker 1>Is that what those are you know saying like you

0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:50.040
<v Speaker 1>were the one?

0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Could I have been some conduit of I mean, I

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:57.600
<v Speaker 2>do believe in energy, right, yeah, Like I absolutely believe

0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:03.439
<v Speaker 2>in energy. Energy is science, and so I don't know

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 2>was my energy doing something that was mixing with whatever

0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:10.760
<v Speaker 2>energies were there?

0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Very well could be, you know, And so you never

0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:19.000
<v Speaker 1>had to have a tune up from the lady. It

0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:22.440
<v Speaker 1>was just in all these years, there's never even been like.

0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:26.639
<v Speaker 2>A little no, there's been nothing that's incredible.

0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:32.359
<v Speaker 1>So, now that your son is older, does he do

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:33.920
<v Speaker 1>you talk about this moment.

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:37.920
<v Speaker 2>We have we have as you know, in the years

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:41.880
<v Speaker 2>that followed, you know, he was made aware of what happened,

0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:46.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, and it's pretty wild to him.

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:49.240
<v Speaker 1>But he's like, yeah, there was a man in my bedroom.

0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:54.600
<v Speaker 2>And I feel terrible that I didn't totally, I don't know,

0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:57.480
<v Speaker 2>help him out with that. I probably could have done

0:23:57.560 --> 0:23:59.000
<v Speaker 2>better there. Do you know where a.

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Kids say that there is a ghost? Yeah, exactly.

0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 2>So I think I was doing what most just sort

0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 2>of normal parents will do. It's like, oh, it's okay,

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.400
<v Speaker 2>come here, let's read a book. You know, let's look,

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing in there. Right, you do all the stuff

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 2>that a parent does. But you know, there was a

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 2>man in a suit sitting there, you know, so fuck

0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 2>me for missing that.

0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:22.639
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:27.879
<v Speaker 1>Now, I reach out to all kinds of people that

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I like to come on here, and most of the

0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 1>time these people it's like pulling teeth trying to get

0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>anything out of that. This is good, I know, Collin.

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's it's a weird thing to tell.

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:46.639
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I have that thing that people worry

0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 2>that people will think you're crazy. Of course when I

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:55.360
<v Speaker 2>do say it, I'm not crazy. These things happened. Take

0:24:55.400 --> 0:25:01.320
<v Speaker 2>from it what you will. But everything was great after that.

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:02.440
<v Speaker 1>That's incredible.

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Like the house totally changed its energy. I'm not even kidding. Yeah,

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:09.680
<v Speaker 2>it really did. I believe I was no longer afraid

0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:12.400
<v Speaker 2>in there for one thing, like after that's like.

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:15.000
<v Speaker 1>A type of cleaning. It's a cleansing thing, you know,

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and if you clean a place real nice and clean,

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna feel better in a lot of different way.

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:23.199
<v Speaker 1>There's multiple ways to do that.

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:27.440
<v Speaker 2>I think, well, I've I've since then, you know, because

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 2>there was something to it that I just can't say

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:34.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't work. So periodically, you know, I will clean the

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 2>house with sage. I'll do that. You know, I'll go

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 2>through with sort of trying to remove bad energy that

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:45.680
<v Speaker 2>we created just through you know, bitch and a moan

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:47.760
<v Speaker 2>and whatever. It is just life, and you're like, let's

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:50.080
<v Speaker 2>clear the air here a little bit. Let's just see

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 2>if that helps. So I will go through and I

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:57.160
<v Speaker 2>will clear the house. And I've had friends who had

0:25:57.200 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 2>issues at their home that they're wondering if it was

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:07.119
<v Speaker 2>a ghost or some situation, and I said, you want help,

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:12.439
<v Speaker 2>and I've gone I know one friend, it worked. We

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:15.160
<v Speaker 2>just saged it. We just did you know, clear intentions.

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Wow for the home.

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Because now you're like a person that's been through it

0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:25.160
<v Speaker 1>and you I mean, you got out on the other

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 1>side and now you can I mean, this is a

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 1>success story because you're still living there and you, I mean,

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 1>you're the one paying for the house. You should be

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 1>able to stay there, not some dead creep.

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:40.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, at this point, what I kind of delight

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 2>in is that I'm going to be the ghost. I

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:47.879
<v Speaker 2>really do. Yeah, I really do. That kind of excites me.

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:49.719
<v Speaker 1>You earned your place.

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:55.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm so embedded in that homely, I am so embedded

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 2>in every every square foot of it. Yes, my, you know,

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm an emotional person. My energy is.

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 4>Thick in that house, just thick. And I'm like, man,

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:12.639
<v Speaker 4>when I am gone, someday, it's gonna be me. Yes,

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 4>even if I don't die there.

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:19.160
<v Speaker 1>When you moved in, was there any mention of anything

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>of this sort?

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Now, No, interesting No, But that granddaughter showing up she

0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 2>really enlightened. And she even said that there was an

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:32.000
<v Speaker 2>event that they had when she was there with the grandma,

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 2>who is also the wife of the dead guy. They

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 2>ended up calling the police one night because their deceased husband, Grandpa,

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:46.439
<v Speaker 2>was knocking on the They were hiding in the master

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 2>bedroom and he was knocking and wouldn't leave him alone

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:54.919
<v Speaker 2>to the point where they called the police. So she

0:27:55.160 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 2>had said that Bernie was active when they were there.

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So she had shown up at the house to

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of exercise her demon's like, you know, just this

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:10.200
<v Speaker 2>random woman showing up and needed to kind of clear

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:12.639
<v Speaker 2>some shit in her brain. So she came back to

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 2>the source of trauma.

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Was she like, oh my god, are you oh Collins?

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:20.880
<v Speaker 2>No, So I put on my Doreen wig and got

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 2>right to it. Let me show you around the house.

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 2>What would you like to see? First of room where

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 2>you were traumatized.

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm obsessed. Okay, do you have other stories? Trust me,

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>you gave me enough, but I'm just curious if there's

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>anything else while I have you.

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I mean there was a years ago in my twenties,

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 2>there was I called it the love ghost. When I

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 2>first got with my ex husband. There were these two

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 2>coats that were hung together in the closet and we

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 2>came back one night in the arm of his coat

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 2>was around my coat somewhere. I still have a picture

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:04.479
<v Speaker 2>of it.

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of cute.

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 2>And no matter how much we tried to re reenact

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 2>that to make it do that, it wouldn't. So we

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 2>just kind of we just kind of liked that, you know.

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 2>We were like new loves and it was just sort

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 2>of like, oh, our energy has is affecting the space

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 2>and there's a love ghost here. How sweet? Right, Like

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 2>just kind of just kind of fun. But I still

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 2>have a picture of it somewhere.

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 1>That's something I think.

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it might have been. Who knows, hadn't.

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 1>It been to like a psychic like other than that cleansing.

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 2>No, I really have Well, I mean there was one

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 2>at a party once, but yeah, yeah, but I didn't

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 2>hear anything or think anything that flipped my wig.

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 2>No.

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about haunted dolls? This idea that.

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 2>There's that they can be Yeah, well, I think it

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 2>goes beyond I think it can go beyond dolls. What

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 2>do you mean items?

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh, just anything, Yeah.

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Just because of that energy. Sure, I feel like and

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 2>you know you've seen stories.

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, oh yeah, that's my liberatit. Doll. He's not haunted, Okay.

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Uh, I feel like there could be. I'm not gonna

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna say that it can't happen.

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, dolls, of course.

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, because they're creepy to begin with, you know,

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 2>the face and everything. It puts a face on a ghost.

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Right, And that's the question. It's like, is that why

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 1>you hear about these haunted dolls? You know? There's is

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>it because they look like humans a little bit?

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Maybe?

0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Would you come back as a doll? Or what do

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 2>you think you choose?

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh? I wouldn't come back as a doll.

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 2>What would you what would you put yourself into?

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean I would want to be in like a

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 1>dressing room, Like I love a dressing room, like a

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>backstage like a theater or something, so just be like.

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 2>A curtain in there or something.

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, I would like to just be me. But see,

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 1>and that's the question. It's like, do you go inside

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>of the doll and then you live like toy story

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>all the time?

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Or are you just like around it and you just

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 1>move it, or like you're just kind of outside of

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 1>it and you're just like touching it And.

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Well that'd be cool?

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Like is that what it is?

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 2>I would I kind of prefer I would like that. Yeah,

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 2>And that see that's that energy thing that I can't

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 2>deny that it couldn't happen, you know, because I also

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 2>do believe that when we leave here, we go somewhere,

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 2>and that is the soul and the soul returns to

0:31:55.640 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 2>something greater. That's my belief. Anyway, I astral projected one time.

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, here we go, let's hear that.

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, before I knew the term, before I had any idea,

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 2>it was a thing.

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to try that so bad.

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 2>And here's the story. And it's kind of fun. Okay.

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 2>I was, let's see twenty one at the time, and

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 2>I was I was dating somebody who was thirty five,

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 2>and we're we're making love. Okay, okay, all right, I'm salacious.

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Here we go.

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 2>And all of a sudden, I'm up in the corner

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 2>of the room like a spec like I'm looking down

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 2>at him on top of me.

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 1>He must have been good.

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 2>I thought I died. I panicked. I'm up in the corner,

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 2>and I mean I full on felt panic that I

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 2>was dead. Yeah, and this is too soon.

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 1>And could you look at you? I could see me, oh,

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>like my god.

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Picture you know, literally the corner of a room, as

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 2>if your you know, a little lipstick camera up in

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 2>the corner of the room looking down at your body.

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 2>But it was boom, just like boom, I just hit

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 2>that and I'm staring down at my body. Yeah, and panic, panic,

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 2>and then boom, I'm back in my body, but I

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 2>cannot move, and I'm internally screaming, but nothing is being heard,

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 2>until all of a sudden I was. And then my

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 2>boyfriend was just grabbing and calming me, and I'm trying

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 2>to explain I died.

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I died.

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 2>I died. Oh my god, I died.

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I died.

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 2>I died.

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm so scared.

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 2>I died. And it got talking about it and he

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 2>explained something called astral projection to me, and it floored me.

0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 2>My soul left my body.

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 2>And he said there was a few seconds where I

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:13.479
<v Speaker 2>wasn't there, that my body was not participating. I'm quite

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:17.399
<v Speaker 2>a lover, hell of the lover.

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>But don't you think that that is like something that

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 1>he could brag about for a long time? Yeah, but

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, I can make you leave your body.

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 2>People. Do people try to astro project and have been

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 2>successful by altering their breathing? Oh, I've learned all this afterwards. Yes,

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 2>But so I thought, Okay, so my breathing must have

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 2>been so relaxed that I went to I literally went

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:49.839
<v Speaker 2>to an out of body place, so physically, so physically,

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 2>so went to an out of body place. But it

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 2>had an eye, right, Like it had an eye it

0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 2>could see and that was that was my soul. That

0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 2>it all. It sounded, just everything felt the same as

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 2>what we kind of feel and here inside of ourselves. Yeah,

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, it didn't become like heavenly or something. It

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:11.319
<v Speaker 2>was me.

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>But it's like, is that what a ghost is? You know,

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:17.799
<v Speaker 1>like it's like the exact same thing. It's like the

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>ghost of someone that's still living. But or that dad,

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's why you know. That experience too has

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 2>me going, well, I know that we can exist in

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 2>our soul outside of the body, right, so.

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 1>You could have had a three way with yourself.

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, missed opportunity. I could have been just

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 2>like tickling his ass from above.

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 1>What the hell wasted time?

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Time spent in panic? Damn it? Oh I've got so

0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 2>much to learn.

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Can I show you a haunted doll?

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes? Oh, look at I immediately like my vagina just

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 2>climbed up. I'm not even I'm serious. Like all my

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:08.360
<v Speaker 2>fear goes straight there first, like everything does joy fear.

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:12.320
<v Speaker 2>It all starts with the clenching and uh, it feels

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 2>like a kegle.

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:16.439
<v Speaker 1>Well don't worry. This one's not gonna harm you. It's

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:20.400
<v Speaker 1>just on the internet. Oh okay, it's time for the

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>dolls are living. This is a haunted doll on eBay.

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>She's currently for sale and she's a she's a big

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:36.400
<v Speaker 1>ticket item. She's currently going for four hundred dollars.

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:38.759
<v Speaker 1>And her name is Lorraine.

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, I'll have a look.

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 1>See can you show us Lorraine please? Jiha you got it?

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Roz. Oh my gosh, that's Lorraine.

0:36:52.920 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>So she's a classic old ghost looking doll. Like she's

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 1>exactly what.

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:04.840
<v Speaker 2>She want, Like, how is she haunted? Who she?

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Course? She comes with a story here?

0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:11.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's she's got that cracked face a.

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Little bitbody needs to do her brows.

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>She needs her brows done. She could definitely use some

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 1>type of like facial I don't know, some some deep

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 1>chemical peel something like that. But it says. Lorraine has

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:31.879
<v Speaker 1>a gentle and playful presence, often making herself known through

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:39.440
<v Speaker 1>subtle yet captivating activities. She has a particular fondness for

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>motion sensor light balls.

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:45.800
<v Speaker 2>See the lights, man, they love the lights.

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's She activates in rhythmic patterns on these lights.

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:55.359
<v Speaker 1>That's how they communicate with her. One of Lorraine's most

0:37:55.480 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 1>fascinating traits is her ability to appear in reflections. Those

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 1>who interact with her have reported glimpsing her figure in

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>mirrors or windows.

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, yes, exactly, yeah, yeah.

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Or fleeting yet unmistakable apparition of a young girl with

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 1>an innocent and curious demeanor. Tapping and knocking sounds are frequent,

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 1>often occurring when she wishes to draw attention or respond

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 1>to interactions. Yeah, so she's in there. Mediums describe her

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 1>as a kind and curious spirit who enjoys connecting with

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:38.359
<v Speaker 1>people and observing the world around her.

0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, isn't that sweet?

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 1>So for four hundred dollars, sure she could be yours. Yeah,

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 1>if you happen to be a very lonely person that

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 1>wants that.

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, if you're lonely, then Lorae's We're a shot.

0:38:52.239 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Loraine is your doll rich, lonely person. I don't even

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 2>like to look at it because I'm so afraid that

0:38:57.640 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I am afraid that she'll come into me and attach

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 2>to me or something. I fear those things.

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:06.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can understand why you after what you've

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 1>been through why you would believe in stuff like the

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 1>possibility of anything really after what you went through.

0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:15.839
<v Speaker 2>And maybe I just feel like a target. I don't know,

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 2>because it's like, because I am a I get scared easily.

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:24.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. So maybe I'm kind of a target.

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:27.319
<v Speaker 1>If I was a ghost, I would want to haunt you.

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:31.000
<v Speaker 2>And at the same time, I'm also brave and strong

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:36.799
<v Speaker 2>as fuck, right, like I will confront anything. I really do,

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:42.799
<v Speaker 2>like I'm so not afraid at the same time, but yeah,

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:46.319
<v Speaker 2>I try to avoid situations where something will try and

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 2>fuck me because on some level I do feel like

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 2>an easy target or something, or like, oh, she'd be

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 2>fun to fuck with. Yeah, you know I do.

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I like, no, it's good.

0:39:57.840 --> 0:39:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:02.400
<v Speaker 1>And the fact that you you literally like closed a portal.

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:05.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I didn't, but that woman, she she did.

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 2>She closed a goddamn portal.

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:11.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean it took some at you two. I think

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:14.440
<v Speaker 1>you should be you should be like any fucking portal

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:17.760
<v Speaker 1>wants to I do, like ill, I have a lady

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 1>with bear medicine and I got some.

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:24.240
<v Speaker 2>Well I got the bear medicine in me now, so yes, yeah,

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 2>like it is it's about confronting things, and isn't that

0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 2>just life anyway?

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, that's how I feel about ghosts. I'm like,

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 1>you're not even like attached to a body, like I'm

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.319
<v Speaker 1>not gonna have They're like Internet trolls to me, Like

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 1>they're just like you're not so real.

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 2>So perfect? Yes, exactly that.

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, can I please some ghost voices? Okay, it's time.

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 2>For ev.

0:40:54.560 --> 0:41:02.879
<v Speaker 1>Or ev plicse Okay, So EVP stands for Electronic voice Phenomenal.

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I go to the Internet and I find these alleged

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 1>EVPs and I'll play two of them for you, and

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you an ABCD, and we're gonna guess what

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 1>these people believe their ghost is saying.

0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 2>All right.

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 1>This first one was on TikTok. It was posted by

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 1>someone named the Supernatural Sleuth, and it says that a

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 1>man and his wife were at their new house, their

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 1>first night in this house and this is an Alabama

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 1>and their cat started acting weird. There's like a lot

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 1>of parallels to you today. I'm sorry this is weird,

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.759
<v Speaker 1>but there was a cat in the house that was

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 1>acting weird, and then they captured this voice. What is

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 1>it saying? Mo Collins?

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:01.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god? Yeah, it's scary. Come here.

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.440
<v Speaker 1>It does sound like it says, come here, come here.

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:09.919
<v Speaker 2>That's come here. Oh my god, look at the chills. Yeah,

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 2>oh god, wow, you come here.

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to scare you scared.

0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Don't worry about it. He's still strong.

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 1>You're still strong. Not forget, you know, but human.

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yes, that's creepy, that's you know. And there's hair

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 2>on my arm. It's going to go up.

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 1>It's good.

0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:29.759
<v Speaker 2>What to do. I'm still alive. That's what it shows me.

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 2>My ship's still working.

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 1>There you go. And whoever this is, they're not okay.

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 1>So did they believe it said a la maire you

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:43.760
<v Speaker 1>know the fancy face cream?

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, no, b come here? Yeah, c love me,

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:52.799
<v Speaker 2>come here?

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Or d light beer?

0:42:57.800 --> 0:42:59.720
<v Speaker 2>It's a kid? Was a kid rocks house?

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god?

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Open, I think it said come here.

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:10.840
<v Speaker 1>That is exactly what they believe it said. Oh creepy whisper. Yeah, okay,

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:14.800
<v Speaker 1>here's one more. This was also on TikTok. This was

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:19.839
<v Speaker 1>posted by someone named m J. Pack And it's at

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:24.400
<v Speaker 1>a place that I have actually been called the Lamp Mansion,

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 1>which is in Saint Louis, Missouri, and it's a very

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:34.880
<v Speaker 1>haunted creepy house that you can stay in. Yeah, what

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 1>is this ghost saying? Okay, this one's harder.

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is hard.

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:45.759
<v Speaker 1>This was a little it's like from a distance, let

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:46.399
<v Speaker 1>me buy it again.

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:55.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what dinner I thought I heard dinner.

0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:58.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to sard dinner in an hour.

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, very well, could be that. Well, here's some options.

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:10.799
<v Speaker 1>Did they think it was a girl, you got a

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:15.880
<v Speaker 1>big mouth, I don't hear it. B you don't know

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 1>why I'm here. C we need to get out of

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:26.320
<v Speaker 1>this house. Or D I need to make a return.

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:30.799
<v Speaker 2>Say number two again, something about.

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:32.040
<v Speaker 1>You don't know why I'm here.

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:34.239
<v Speaker 2>I think it's that one. And part of that is

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:37.160
<v Speaker 2>because of what you can get out of it, which

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:40.960
<v Speaker 2>is the inflection. Yeah, you don't even know why I'm here?

0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Right like, I think you have to listen to inflection

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:49.160
<v Speaker 2>and any intent that you kind of hear behind it,

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:53.240
<v Speaker 2>And that's that you don't even know I'm here.

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 1>They think it's saying we need you to get out

0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:56.720
<v Speaker 1>of this house.

0:44:57.040 --> 0:44:59.360
<v Speaker 2>That's too specific, and you would hear more.

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:03.800
<v Speaker 1>We need wait, no, it's we need to get out

0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:05.920
<v Speaker 1>of this house. Let me hear it again.

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, maybe maybebe we need to get out of this.

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know what happened when I went to this house.

0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I go in there and I'm like, I don't like

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 1>this place at all.

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Really.

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:26.359
<v Speaker 1>It was week eight or nine in a row of

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:27.960
<v Speaker 1>staying in haunted places.

0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, because I was doing a TV show, okay.

0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:34.000
<v Speaker 1>And this was the final one, and you didn't like it.

0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 2>I hate after all of those other places, you did

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 2>not feel what you felt in this one.

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:41.319
<v Speaker 1>No. I well, I was just I think it was

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:43.440
<v Speaker 1>a mixture of just being like, I'm so sick of

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 1>stuffing donuts in my face because I was so terrified

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 1>for so many weeks, and that was how I was coping.

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 1>So I go up into this house and we go

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:56.560
<v Speaker 1>up into this upstairs and they're like, this is the

0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 1>room you're going to stay. And this was such a

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 1>journey to it. Upt you know, it's an old you

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 1>gotta walk up the tiny little staircase and then another floor.

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:08.719
<v Speaker 1>It's like the third floor in the house or something. Yeah,

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:10.799
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like I'm gonna sleep up here all night.

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 1>No way. I get up there and I'm like, I

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:15.719
<v Speaker 1>do not like it in here. I do not like

0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 1>it in here and I started I don't know if

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:21.800
<v Speaker 1>it was a ghost or I don't an energy. I

0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:23.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know what it was, or if I was just

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 1>so scared and so many whatever I start vomiting. It

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:33.120
<v Speaker 1>was really wild.

0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:37.760
<v Speaker 2>That's a big reaction, I know. I mean that's beyond

0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:41.279
<v Speaker 2>just having a lot of donuts. That's it is, Like,

0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:44.240
<v Speaker 2>that's a very deep reaction.

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was so like, there's no and I think

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:51.799
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it had to do with the terrifying

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:55.279
<v Speaker 1>fear of like if I had to sleep in this

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:58.960
<v Speaker 1>room tonight and I'm supposed to for the next two nights,

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 1>where am I gonna run if it's it's dark and

0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:06.120
<v Speaker 1>this is like a creaky old house, third floor. H

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:12.359
<v Speaker 1>So I was like what who? I ended up not

0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:15.200
<v Speaker 1>sleeping in it? Yeah, I got. I puked my way

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:15.719
<v Speaker 1>out of it.

0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Good. Good for you to remember that next time I

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:21.239
<v Speaker 2>don't want to do something, I'm gonna puke my way

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:21.759
<v Speaker 2>out of it.

0:47:21.880 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, works like a charm. Let me just do

0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:31.720
<v Speaker 1>something real quick. Let's do like, uh, I'll throw some

0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:34.919
<v Speaker 1>stuff at gin in we'll kind of rapid fire. See

0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:39.560
<v Speaker 1>if anything comes up for you. All right, curses do

0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:42.760
<v Speaker 1>you believe in curses, Umm.

0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Not particularly mm hmm. Beyond like I think you can

0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 2>send bad energy to somebody, but I don't. I don't

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:55.399
<v Speaker 2>know about that tossing such very specific curses. Yeah, and

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:56.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:47:56.960 --> 0:48:00.680
<v Speaker 1>What about horoscopes, Uh.

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Not not particularly into them. I think they're fun. I

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:06.359
<v Speaker 2>think you can find what you're looking for in them,

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:09.000
<v Speaker 2>and you can find what you're not looking for. You

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:11.239
<v Speaker 2>can find whatever you go to look there for.

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm.

0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:17.800
<v Speaker 2>It it doesn't necessarily I haven't seen any. Let's just

0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:20.920
<v Speaker 2>say that are just so super specific that you're like,

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:24.400
<v Speaker 2>that is sony, but it's you know, you see something

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:28.560
<v Speaker 2>that's like you're gonna you're gonna have clarity in the

0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 2>next week, you know, and it's like, oh god, you

0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:33.960
<v Speaker 2>know I'm already feeling it. I already feel that clar

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:38.680
<v Speaker 2>This is so spot on right, it's too Yeah, it's

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.040
<v Speaker 2>it's fun. It's a it's a party favorite fun thing.

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I feel pretty similarly.

0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Yah.

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:47.080
<v Speaker 1>But then people will always say, well, you gotta do

0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the birth chart, you gotta find out what time you

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:50.279
<v Speaker 1>were born.

0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Well how about you do my birth chart for me?

0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:54.160
<v Speaker 2>And you figure all that shit out and you get

0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:56.920
<v Speaker 2>me a readout of whatever comes and we'll see Yeah,

0:48:56.960 --> 0:48:59.560
<v Speaker 2>like I don't I don't have time for that. I

0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:02.359
<v Speaker 2>get you, but it's on the same token. Nothing more

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:06.640
<v Speaker 2>fun than going, oh you're a cancer, I'm a cancer too. Hey. Hey,

0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:10.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, because we as human being as it's like,

0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:12.880
<v Speaker 2>we like to find common ground, no matter what it

0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:16.000
<v Speaker 2>looks like. Oh I I pooped a donut size poop.

0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh me too, yay, Like just whatever makes us connect. Yeah,

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:24.920
<v Speaker 2>and horoscopes I think do that totally and and we'll

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:27.560
<v Speaker 2>buy into it and that's all right, that's fun.

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 1>They give us a reason to talk to each other.

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:32.320
<v Speaker 2>It's a it's a conversation piece.

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:36.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. What about demons? Do you believe in such a thing?

0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I grown up Catholic.

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:50.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I I believe that people can house evil themselves

0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:54.000
<v Speaker 3>if you want to say, you know, that's a demon,

0:49:54.800 --> 0:49:55.759
<v Speaker 3>however you want to say it.

0:49:55.800 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 2>But I do believe that people house evil. Yeah, born

0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:08.160
<v Speaker 2>with it, figured it out somewhere along their path, experiences

0:50:08.480 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 2>upbringing whatever something they're hanging onto that can also turn

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:22.640
<v Speaker 2>itself into psychologically in your brain can turn it into

0:50:22.719 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 2>a form of a monster. Almost, Yeah, a psychic break

0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:32.520
<v Speaker 2>of sorts. That happens within you, that's based on whatever

0:50:32.560 --> 0:50:35.120
<v Speaker 2>your experiences are. And I think that we can form

0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 2>evil in our brains.

0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:42.920
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I wonder sometimes, Like I'm very open

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:45.000
<v Speaker 1>about a lot of this stuff, and I don't know,

0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 1>but I wonder sometimes if it's like there's these energies that, yeah,

0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:54.439
<v Speaker 1>sometimes they're floating inside of someone and then sometimes they're

0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:56.560
<v Speaker 1>in a doll and then like they just kind of

0:50:56.600 --> 0:50:58.440
<v Speaker 1>go from thing to host stuff.

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:02.120
<v Speaker 2>I think, for instance, you know, the one of the

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:05.279
<v Speaker 2>entities that was in my home back then was apparently

0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:09.520
<v Speaker 2>not a friendly she said, but she also said it's

0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:14.000
<v Speaker 2>not big enough to be harmful physically in the world,

0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:20.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, but was definitely evil intent, like bad evil

0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:25.759
<v Speaker 2>intended no goodness, you know, nothing good. And that was

0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:28.600
<v Speaker 2>that energy. But I don't know that that's any different

0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:32.719
<v Speaker 2>than say a human being that can also be so

0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:36.960
<v Speaker 2>intrinsically fucking evil, and god knows we're loaded with it

0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:39.600
<v Speaker 2>these days, you know. So it's like, I just think

0:51:39.640 --> 0:51:42.560
<v Speaker 2>that that energy, if you pass, then could possibly remain

0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:46.000
<v Speaker 2>that energy in that little lipstick soul up there in

0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:50.000
<v Speaker 2>the corner. Yeah, Like it's energy to me.

0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:54.040
<v Speaker 1>But anytime I hear about like an evil demon like that.

0:51:54.120 --> 0:52:00.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I could change him. It's never met me. Oh,

0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:04.960
<v Speaker 1>like he just doesn't know any different. Yeah, he seems

0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:05.759
<v Speaker 1>like a bad guy.

0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, mixed with my good energy and oh we're

0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 2>going to have Yeah, just a real yin yang.

0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever when you were at mad TV? I

0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 1>remember Deborah. I asked Deborah about if the studio was haunted,

0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:24.839
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like she said there was like one

0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:28.440
<v Speaker 1>area where she felt some vibes, but not really. I

0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:30.240
<v Speaker 1>just always want to talk about Mad TV.

0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Oh, it's a great thing to talk about.

0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Here's this other thing I love to ask people about, like,

0:52:37.280 --> 0:52:46.040
<v Speaker 1>was there any like deja vu or or coincidences or

0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:50.680
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that that led to you having that big

0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:55.000
<v Speaker 1>life change and being on mad TV? And was there

0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:58.000
<v Speaker 1>any like signs at point, like did you did you

0:52:58.040 --> 0:52:59.959
<v Speaker 1>look into it like that, because you know, some people

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:03.840
<v Speaker 1>very easily could you could go Oh I was supposed

0:53:03.840 --> 0:53:05.400
<v Speaker 1>to be at this place on that day and then

0:53:05.440 --> 0:53:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I ended up auditioning and.

0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean yeah, actually kind of. Yeah. I was

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:15.840
<v Speaker 2>still up in Minneapolis. My son was you know, I

0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:22.000
<v Speaker 2>had a baby at the time that Mad TV started,

0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:26.120
<v Speaker 2>and I remember being in the dining room with my

0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:29.080
<v Speaker 2>child and mad TV came on and I said, I'm late.

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:33.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm supposed to be in LA. But I was just

0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:35.879
<v Speaker 2>a mom in Minneapolis.

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:36.919
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:53:37.239 --> 0:53:41.280
<v Speaker 2>So when my son was two is when I moved

0:53:41.280 --> 0:53:47.319
<v Speaker 2>out to LA and I was doing an original show

0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:53.920
<v Speaker 2>with a bunch of my my gal pals. And casting

0:53:53.920 --> 0:53:56.160
<v Speaker 2>person saw it and she started hooking me up with

0:53:56.840 --> 0:54:00.319
<v Speaker 2>casting directors and such. And within the first year Mad

0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:04.680
<v Speaker 2>TV audition came up, and it's just the right audition,

0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:07.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, to happen. I couldn't have gotten into something else.

0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:09.160
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have the resume for that, you know, to

0:54:09.160 --> 0:54:11.920
<v Speaker 2>be a mom on a sitcom or something. But my

0:54:12.480 --> 0:54:18.080
<v Speaker 2>entire background was pretty much sketch sketch, improv character work.

0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:23.000
<v Speaker 2>So you know, I was assassin ready when that audition

0:54:23.120 --> 0:54:29.040
<v Speaker 2>showed up, right, It's like, okay, three characters, three impressions,

0:54:28.719 --> 0:54:33.560
<v Speaker 2>let's fucking go. And I got it. But I remember

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<v Speaker 2>on the there was six auditions total. On the fifth one,

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<v Speaker 2>I got let go and I went home and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, they made a horrible mistake. I was just bawling,

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<v Speaker 2>they made a mistake. I'm still supposed to be there,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I just so so believed that I was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be on that show since since it came on,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, especially because the women on that show were

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<v Speaker 2>just really funny. They got to be funny. They were

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<v Speaker 2>given the space and and I really noted that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even over SNL, I knew the politics were different.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I was like, oh god, they love it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I got the call for the next you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for the network test, which was like, thank god, I

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<v Speaker 2>thought I thought they fucked up. Yeah, and they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're leaving me in the dust. And it's like, m mmmm,

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<v Speaker 2>that's my show.

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<v Speaker 1>It was meant to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh totally totally.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so cool that you're a young mom in Minneapolis

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<v Speaker 1>and then you came out. Yeah, that's so cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are such good days. Like just the dream factory

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<v Speaker 2>in my brain was so up and running. Hell yeah right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like the energy was all there, just so forward motion.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything was just so great. It really was just so great.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved that time. I was I think thirty two

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<v Speaker 2>when I got mad, which was older for that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>which is crazy, but that was that was older. Like

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<v Speaker 2>Michael McDonald and I were same agent. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>we were on the upper end of things.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been truly incredible. These mat TV ladies, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you, they come in here with their stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there were so many more details I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>even get into. But yeah, oh my god, it's too long.

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<v Speaker 2>It's too long. I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 1>There were one of these days. Please come back on

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<v Speaker 1>the show if you ever have anything else finding cool,

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<v Speaker 1>spooky or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is fun. It was I haven't told that

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<v Speaker 2>in a while, and it was good and great talking

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<v Speaker 2>to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to tell people to follow you or

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<v Speaker 1>watch anything or.

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<v Speaker 2>Follow me if you feel like it. I don't you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Attendance is not mandatory, as they say. I don't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>follow me, come on around, come say I you here?

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome. Well, thank you so much, thank you, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much to Vo Collins. Wow wow, Wow. That one

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<v Speaker 1>is going to stick with me. We'll be back next week.

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<v Speaker 2>MHM