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Speaker 1: What's that a bed? It's spooky and joky. I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: I'm ghosted, I gas nandas Pllease hey boo, it's me

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Speaker 1: Ros and welcome to Ghosted by Ros Hernandez, the podcast

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Speaker 1: where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.

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Speaker 1: Holy how Moe Collins is on the show, and I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: but this is one of the best episodes we have

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Speaker 1: First of all, Mocollins is an idol of mine. I

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Speaker 1: grew up watching her on Mad TV. She is just

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Speaker 1: such a spectacular comedy actor, just comedian in general, so funny,

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Speaker 1: so fun And turns out she lived in a haunted house. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: actually she lives in a house that was haunted and

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Speaker 1: is no longer haunted. Okay, so that means we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get the full story. It's a good one. It's a

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Speaker 1: good one. I'm excited for you to hear it. Also,

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Speaker 1: I want you to come see me live. I'm touring

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Speaker 1: all over this country that I live in called America.

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Speaker 1: Go to Rozhernandez tour dot com to get your tickets

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Speaker 1: to see me doing stand up comedy in primarily gay

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Speaker 1: established Schmientz and uh, We're going to have a good

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Speaker 1: time and I would love to see you there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here is my conversation with Mo Collins on with the

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Speaker 1: show Mo Collins High.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, I've already told you this bike

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Speaker 1: at very starstruck around you mad TV people. Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: you people raised me.

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Speaker 2: You all say that my first were supposed to be

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Speaker 2: Still a lot of you stayed up, you know, late.

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Speaker 1: And it stayed with us. And I really do think

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Speaker 1: that people in comedy that are millennial age, it's like

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Speaker 1: so much comes like we learned so much from you?

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Speaker 2: What did you? What could you possibly have learned from us?

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Speaker 1: So much?

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Speaker 2: I think about it, I'm like, what did what did

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Speaker 1: You taught us. I mean there's a lot of characters

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Speaker 1: many that each of you did that were original characters

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Speaker 1: agreed that are so memorable. Yeah, yeah, my first guest

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Speaker 1: that I've ever so I've done this Peca since twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 1: and Deborah Wilson was my first guest ever.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and wow, she.

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Speaker 1: Is one of these people that's just got the best stories.

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Speaker 1: She has so many ghost stories and just she was

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Speaker 1: such an incredible guest. And then I'm talking to you

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Speaker 1: and You're like, I have so many ghost stories. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, this is.

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Speaker 1: The best thing I can hear to make my childhood

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Speaker 1: idols even better. They come with ghost stories.

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Speaker 2: Let's pull out my trauma.

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Speaker 1: Is the traumatic ghost stories? Fun ghost stories. Wait, listen,

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Speaker 1: it can be that's all part of it. You never know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we talk about it all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got stories. Okay I do.

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Speaker 1: Did you grow up believing in ghosts or no?

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Speaker 2: Okay, not particularly No. I mean I was an easily

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Speaker 1: When I was a k the movie stick Mada came out.

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Speaker 1: was about do you know about the stigmata? It's like

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Speaker 2: And I hid it from my mother because she did.

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Speaker 2: So I've been in this house for twenty five years,

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Speaker 2: But uh, then got to two thousand and seven when

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Speaker 2: And I was pissed because I was like, oh, I

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Speaker 2: He wasn't around here, goddamn kurpplunk. I wasn't going to

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Speaker 1: You know, I would have never gone in that pool.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that it ramps up because of like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that. I think it was probably a

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Speaker 2: So that worked. But my emotions were crazy, and I

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Speaker 1: Is that what those are you know saying like you

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Speaker 2: Could I have been some conduit of I mean, I

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Speaker 2: A little no, there's been nothing that's incredible.

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Speaker 2: And I feel terrible that I didn't totally, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Now, I reach out to all kinds of people that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's a weird thing to tell.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I have that thing that people worry

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Speaker 1: That's incredible.

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Speaker 2: Like the house totally changed its energy. I'm not even kidding. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: A type of cleaning. It's a cleansing thing, you know,

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Speaker 2: and whatever. It is just life, and you're like, let's

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Speaker 2: if that helps. So I will go through and I

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437
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Speaker 2: just saged it. We just did you know, clear intentions.

438
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: Wow for the home.

439
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: Because now you're like a person that's been through it

440
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: and you I mean, you got out on the other

441
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: side and now you can I mean, this is a

442
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: success story because you're still living there and you, I mean,

443
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: you're the one paying for the house. You should be

444
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: able to stay there, not some dead creep.

445
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 2: I mean, at this point, what I kind of delight

446
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: in is that I'm going to be the ghost. I

447
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 2: really do. Yeah, I really do. That kind of excites me.

448
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,719
Speaker 1: You earned your place.

449
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 2: I'm so embedded in that homely, I am so embedded

450
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: in every every square foot of it. Yes, my, you know,

451
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: I'm an emotional person. My energy is.

452
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 4: Thick in that house, just thick. And I'm like, man,

453
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 4: when I am gone, someday, it's gonna be me. Yes,

454
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 4: even if I don't die there.

455
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: When you moved in, was there any mention of anything

456
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: of this sort?

457
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 2: Now, No, interesting No, But that granddaughter showing up she

458
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: really enlightened. And she even said that there was an

459
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: event that they had when she was there with the grandma,

460
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: who is also the wife of the dead guy. They

461
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 2: ended up calling the police one night because their deceased husband, Grandpa,

462
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 2: was knocking on the They were hiding in the master

463
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: bedroom and he was knocking and wouldn't leave him alone

464
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 2: to the point where they called the police. So she

465
00:27:55,160 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: had said that Bernie was active when they were there.

466
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 3: Wow.

467
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, So she had shown up at the house to

468
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: kind of exercise her demon's like, you know, just this

469
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 2: random woman showing up and needed to kind of clear

470
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 2: some shit in her brain. So she came back to

471
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: the source of trauma.

472
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: Was she like, oh my god, are you oh Collins?

473
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 2: No, So I put on my Doreen wig and got

474
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 2: right to it. Let me show you around the house.

475
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: What would you like to see? First of room where

476
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 2: you were traumatized.

477
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed. Okay, do you have other stories? Trust me,

478
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: you gave me enough, but I'm just curious if there's

479
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: anything else while I have you.

480
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean there was a years ago in my twenties,

481
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 2: there was I called it the love ghost. When I

482
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: first got with my ex husband. There were these two

483
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: coats that were hung together in the closet and we

484
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: came back one night in the arm of his coat

485
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: was around my coat somewhere. I still have a picture

486
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 2: of it.

487
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: That's kind of cute.

488
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: And no matter how much we tried to re reenact

489
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: that to make it do that, it wouldn't. So we

490
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: just kind of we just kind of liked that, you know.

491
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: We were like new loves and it was just sort

492
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: of like, oh, our energy has is affecting the space

493
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: and there's a love ghost here. How sweet? Right, Like

494
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: just kind of just kind of fun. But I still

495
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: have a picture of it somewhere.

496
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: That's something I think.

497
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it might have been. Who knows, hadn't.

498
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: It been to like a psychic like other than that cleansing.

499
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: No, I really have Well, I mean there was one

500
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: at a party once, but yeah, yeah, but I didn't

501
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: hear anything or think anything that flipped my wig.

502
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

503
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: No.

504
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: What do you think about haunted dolls? This idea that.

505
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: There's that they can be Yeah, well, I think it

506
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 2: goes beyond I think it can go beyond dolls. What

507
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: do you mean items?

508
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: Oh, just anything, Yeah.

509
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: Just because of that energy. Sure, I feel like and

510
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: you know you've seen stories.

511
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: Oh shit, oh yeah, that's my liberatit. Doll. He's not haunted, Okay.

512
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: Uh, I feel like there could be. I'm not gonna

513
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that it can't happen.

514
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, dolls, of course.

515
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: You know, because they're creepy to begin with, you know,

516
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: the face and everything. It puts a face on a ghost.

517
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: Right, And that's the question. It's like, is that why

518
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: you hear about these haunted dolls? You know? There's is

519
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: it because they look like humans a little bit?

520
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: Maybe?

521
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

522
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: Would you come back as a doll? Or what do

523
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: you think you choose?

524
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: Oh? I wouldn't come back as a doll.

525
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: What would you what would you put yourself into?

526
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: I mean I would want to be in like a

527
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: dressing room, Like I love a dressing room, like a

528
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: backstage like a theater or something, so just be like.

529
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: A curtain in there or something.

530
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: Well, I would like to just be me. But see,

531
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: and that's the question. It's like, do you go inside

532
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: of the doll and then you live like toy story

533
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: all the time?

534
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

535
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: Or are you just like around it and you just

536
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: move it, or like you're just kind of outside of

537
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: it and you're just like touching it And.

538
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: Well that'd be cool?

539
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: Like is that what it is?

540
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: I would I kind of prefer I would like that. Yeah,

541
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: And that see that's that energy thing that I can't

542
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: deny that it couldn't happen, you know, because I also

543
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: do believe that when we leave here, we go somewhere,

544
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: and that is the soul and the soul returns to

545
00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: something greater. That's my belief. Anyway, I astral projected one time.

546
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go, let's hear that.

547
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, before I knew the term, before I had any idea,

548
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: it was a thing.

549
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: I want to try that so bad.

550
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: And here's the story. And it's kind of fun. Okay.

551
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: I was, let's see twenty one at the time, and

552
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: I was I was dating somebody who was thirty five,

553
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: and we're we're making love. Okay, okay, all right, I'm salacious.

554
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: Here we go.

555
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, I'm up in the corner

556
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: of the room like a spec like I'm looking down

557
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: at him on top of me.

558
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: He must have been good.

559
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: I thought I died. I panicked. I'm up in the corner,

560
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: and I mean I full on felt panic that I

561
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: was dead. Yeah, and this is too soon.

562
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: And could you look at you? I could see me, oh,

563
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: like my god.

564
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: Picture you know, literally the corner of a room, as

565
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: if your you know, a little lipstick camera up in

566
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: the corner of the room looking down at your body.

567
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: But it was boom, just like boom, I just hit

568
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: that and I'm staring down at my body. Yeah, and panic, panic,

569
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: and then boom, I'm back in my body, but I

570
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: cannot move, and I'm internally screaming, but nothing is being heard,

571
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: until all of a sudden I was. And then my

572
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: boyfriend was just grabbing and calming me, and I'm trying

573
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: to explain I died.

574
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: I died.

575
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: I died. Oh my god, I died.

576
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: I died.

577
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: I died.

578
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm so scared.

579
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: I died. And it got talking about it and he

580
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: explained something called astral projection to me, and it floored me.

581
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: My soul left my body.

582
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

583
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: And he said there was a few seconds where I

584
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 2: wasn't there, that my body was not participating. I'm quite

585
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 2: a lover, hell of the lover.

586
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: But don't you think that that is like something that

587
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: he could brag about for a long time? Yeah, but

588
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: you know, I can make you leave your body.

589
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: People. Do people try to astro project and have been

590
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: successful by altering their breathing? Oh, I've learned all this afterwards. Yes,

591
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: But so I thought, Okay, so my breathing must have

592
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: been so relaxed that I went to I literally went

593
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 2: to an out of body place, so physically, so physically,

594
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: so went to an out of body place. But it

595
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: had an eye, right, Like it had an eye it

596
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: could see and that was that was my soul. That

597
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: it all. It sounded, just everything felt the same as

598
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: what we kind of feel and here inside of ourselves. Yeah,

599
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: you know, it didn't become like heavenly or something. It

600
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: was me.

601
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: But it's like, is that what a ghost is? You know,

602
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: like it's like the exact same thing. It's like the

603
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: ghost of someone that's still living. But or that dad,

604
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: I don't know.

605
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's why you know. That experience too has

606
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: me going, well, I know that we can exist in

607
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: our soul outside of the body, right, so.

608
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: You could have had a three way with yourself.

609
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: Oh my god, missed opportunity. I could have been just

610
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: like tickling his ass from above.

611
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: What the hell wasted time?

612
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 2: Time spent in panic? Damn it? Oh I've got so

613
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: much to learn.

614
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: Can I show you a haunted doll?

615
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 2: Yes? Oh, look at I immediately like my vagina just

616
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: climbed up. I'm not even I'm serious. Like all my

617
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 2: fear goes straight there first, like everything does joy fear.

618
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 2: It all starts with the clenching and uh, it feels

619
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: like a kegle.

620
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 1: Well don't worry. This one's not gonna harm you. It's

621
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: just on the internet. Oh okay, it's time for the

622
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: dolls are living. This is a haunted doll on eBay.

623
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: She's currently for sale and she's a she's a big

624
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: ticket item. She's currently going for four hundred dollars.

625
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: Wow.

626
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: And her name is Lorraine.

627
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'll have a look.

628
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: See can you show us Lorraine please? Jiha you got it?

629
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: Roz. Oh my gosh, that's Lorraine.

630
00:36:52,920 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: So she's a classic old ghost looking doll. Like she's

631
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: exactly what.

632
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 2: She want, Like, how is she haunted? Who she?

633
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: Course? She comes with a story here?

634
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

635
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's she's got that cracked face a.

636
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 2: Little bitbody needs to do her brows.

637
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: She needs her brows done. She could definitely use some

638
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: type of like facial I don't know, some some deep

639
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: chemical peel something like that. But it says. Lorraine has

640
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: a gentle and playful presence, often making herself known through

641
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: subtle yet captivating activities. She has a particular fondness for

642
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: motion sensor light balls.

643
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 2: See the lights, man, they love the lights.

644
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's She activates in rhythmic patterns on these lights.

645
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: That's how they communicate with her. One of Lorraine's most

646
00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: fascinating traits is her ability to appear in reflections. Those

647
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: who interact with her have reported glimpsing her figure in

648
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: mirrors or windows.

649
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, exactly, yeah, yeah.

650
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: Or fleeting yet unmistakable apparition of a young girl with

651
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: an innocent and curious demeanor. Tapping and knocking sounds are frequent,

652
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: often occurring when she wishes to draw attention or respond

653
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: to interactions. Yeah, so she's in there. Mediums describe her

654
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: as a kind and curious spirit who enjoys connecting with

655
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: people and observing the world around her.

656
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 2: Well, isn't that sweet?

657
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: So for four hundred dollars, sure she could be yours. Yeah,

658
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: if you happen to be a very lonely person that

659
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: wants that.

660
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you're lonely, then Lorae's We're a shot.

661
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: Loraine is your doll rich, lonely person. I don't even

662
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 2: like to look at it because I'm so afraid that

663
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 2: I am afraid that she'll come into me and attach

664
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 2: to me or something. I fear those things.

665
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I can understand why you after what you've

666
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: been through why you would believe in stuff like the

667
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: possibility of anything really after what you went through.

668
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 2: And maybe I just feel like a target. I don't know,

669
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: because it's like, because I am a I get scared easily.

670
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. So maybe I'm kind of a target.

671
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: If I was a ghost, I would want to haunt you.

672
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: And at the same time, I'm also brave and strong

673
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 2: as fuck, right, like I will confront anything. I really do,

674
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 2: like I'm so not afraid at the same time, but yeah,

675
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 2: I try to avoid situations where something will try and

676
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 2: fuck me because on some level I do feel like

677
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: an easy target or something, or like, oh, she'd be

678
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: fun to fuck with. Yeah, you know I do.

679
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: I like, no, it's good.

680
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

681
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: And the fact that you you literally like closed a portal.

682
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I didn't, but that woman, she she did.

683
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: She closed a goddamn portal.

684
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: I mean it took some at you two. I think

685
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: you should be you should be like any fucking portal

686
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 1: wants to I do, like ill, I have a lady

687
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: with bear medicine and I got some.

688
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 2: Well I got the bear medicine in me now, so yes, yeah,

689
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: like it is it's about confronting things, and isn't that

690
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: just life anyway?

691
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, that's how I feel about ghosts. I'm like,

692
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: you're not even like attached to a body, like I'm

693
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: not gonna have They're like Internet trolls to me, Like

694
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: they're just like you're not so real.

695
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: So perfect? Yes, exactly that.

696
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, can I please some ghost voices? Okay, it's time.

697
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: For ev.

698
00:40:54,560 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: Or ev plicse Okay, So EVP stands for Electronic voice Phenomenal.

699
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: I go to the Internet and I find these alleged

700
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: EVPs and I'll play two of them for you, and

701
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: I'll give you an ABCD, and we're gonna guess what

702
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: these people believe their ghost is saying.

703
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: All right.

704
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: This first one was on TikTok. It was posted by

705
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: someone named the Supernatural Sleuth, and it says that a

706
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: man and his wife were at their new house, their

707
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: first night in this house and this is an Alabama

708
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: and their cat started acting weird. There's like a lot

709
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: of parallels to you today. I'm sorry this is weird,

710
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: but there was a cat in the house that was

711
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: acting weird, and then they captured this voice. What is

712
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: it saying? Mo Collins?

713
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 2: Oh my god? Yeah, it's scary. Come here.

714
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: It does sound like it says, come here, come here.

715
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 2: That's come here. Oh my god, look at the chills. Yeah,

716
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: oh god, wow, you come here.

717
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to scare you scared.

718
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. He's still strong.

719
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: You're still strong. Not forget, you know, but human.

720
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, that's creepy, that's you know. And there's hair

721
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: on my arm. It's going to go up.

722
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: It's good.

723
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: What to do. I'm still alive. That's what it shows me.

724
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: My ship's still working.

725
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: There you go. And whoever this is, they're not okay.

726
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: So did they believe it said a la maire you

727
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 1: know the fancy face cream?

728
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, b come here? Yeah, c love me,

729
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 2: come here?

730
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: Or d light beer?

731
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 2: It's a kid? Was a kid rocks house?

732
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: Oh my god?

733
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: Open, I think it said come here.

734
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: That is exactly what they believe it said. Oh creepy whisper. Yeah, okay,

735
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: here's one more. This was also on TikTok. This was

736
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: posted by someone named m J. Pack And it's at

737
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: a place that I have actually been called the Lamp Mansion,

738
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: which is in Saint Louis, Missouri, and it's a very

739
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: haunted creepy house that you can stay in. Yeah, what

740
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: is this ghost saying? Okay, this one's harder.

741
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is hard.

742
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: This was a little it's like from a distance, let

743
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: me buy it again.

744
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: I don't know what dinner I thought I heard dinner.

745
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to sard dinner in an hour.

746
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: Yes, very well, could be that. Well, here's some options.

747
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: Did they think it was a girl, you got a

748
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: big mouth, I don't hear it. B you don't know

749
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: why I'm here. C we need to get out of

750
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: this house. Or D I need to make a return.

751
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 2: Say number two again, something about.

752
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: You don't know why I'm here.

753
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: I think it's that one. And part of that is

754
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: because of what you can get out of it, which

755
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: is the inflection. Yeah, you don't even know why I'm here?

756
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: Right like, I think you have to listen to inflection

757
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: and any intent that you kind of hear behind it,

758
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 2: And that's that you don't even know I'm here.

759
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: They think it's saying we need you to get out

760
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 1: of this house.

761
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 2: That's too specific, and you would hear more.

762
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: We need wait, no, it's we need to get out

763
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: of this house. Let me hear it again.

764
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, maybe maybebe we need to get out of this.

765
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what happened when I went to this house.

766
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: I go in there and I'm like, I don't like

767
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: this place at all.

768
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: Really.

769
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: It was week eight or nine in a row of

770
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: staying in haunted places.

771
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: Oh wow, because I was doing a TV show, okay.

772
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: And this was the final one, and you didn't like it.

773
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: I hate after all of those other places, you did

774
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: not feel what you felt in this one.

775
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: No. I well, I was just I think it was

776
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: a mixture of just being like, I'm so sick of

777
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: stuffing donuts in my face because I was so terrified

778
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: for so many weeks, and that was how I was coping.

779
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: Oh wow.

780
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: So I go up into this house and we go

781
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: up into this upstairs and they're like, this is the

782
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: room you're going to stay. And this was such a

783
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: journey to it. Upt you know, it's an old you

784
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: gotta walk up the tiny little staircase and then another floor.

785
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: It's like the third floor in the house or something. Yeah,

786
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: and I'm like I'm gonna sleep up here all night.

787
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: No way. I get up there and I'm like, I

788
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: do not like it in here. I do not like

789
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: it in here and I started I don't know if

790
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: it was a ghost or I don't an energy. I

791
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: don't know what it was, or if I was just

792
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: so scared and so many whatever I start vomiting. It

793
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: was really wild.

794
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 2: That's a big reaction, I know. I mean that's beyond

795
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: just having a lot of donuts. That's it is, Like,

796
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 2: that's a very deep reaction.

797
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was so like, there's no and I think

798
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: a lot of it had to do with the terrifying

799
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: fear of like if I had to sleep in this

800
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: room tonight and I'm supposed to for the next two nights,

801
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: where am I gonna run if it's it's dark and

802
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: this is like a creaky old house, third floor. H

803
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: So I was like what who? I ended up not

804
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: sleeping in it? Yeah, I got. I puked my way

805
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: out of it.

806
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: Good. Good for you to remember that next time I

807
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: don't want to do something, I'm gonna puke my way

808
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 2: out of it.

809
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, works like a charm. Let me just do

810
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 1: something real quick. Let's do like, uh, I'll throw some

811
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 1: stuff at gin in we'll kind of rapid fire. See

812
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: if anything comes up for you. All right, curses do

813
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 1: you believe in curses, Umm.

814
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: Not particularly mm hmm. Beyond like I think you can

815
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: send bad energy to somebody, but I don't. I don't

816
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 2: know about that tossing such very specific curses. Yeah, and

817
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: I don't.

818
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: What about horoscopes, Uh.

819
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: Not not particularly into them. I think they're fun. I

820
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 2: think you can find what you're looking for in them,

821
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: and you can find what you're not looking for. You

822
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: can find whatever you go to look there for.

823
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

824
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 2: It it doesn't necessarily I haven't seen any. Let's just

825
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: say that are just so super specific that you're like,

826
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 2: that is sony, but it's you know, you see something

827
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: that's like you're gonna you're gonna have clarity in the

828
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: next week, you know, and it's like, oh god, you

829
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: know I'm already feeling it. I already feel that clar

830
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: This is so spot on right, it's too Yeah, it's

831
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: it's fun. It's a it's a party favorite fun thing.

832
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel pretty similarly.

833
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: Yah.

834
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: But then people will always say, well, you gotta do

835
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: the birth chart, you gotta find out what time you

836
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: were born.

837
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 2: Well how about you do my birth chart for me?

838
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: And you figure all that shit out and you get

839
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: me a readout of whatever comes and we'll see Yeah,

840
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: like I don't I don't have time for that. I

841
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 2: get you, but it's on the same token. Nothing more

842
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: fun than going, oh you're a cancer, I'm a cancer too. Hey. Hey,

843
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 2: you know, because we as human being as it's like,

844
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: we like to find common ground, no matter what it

845
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: looks like. Oh I I pooped a donut size poop.

846
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: Oh me too, yay, Like just whatever makes us connect. Yeah,

847
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: and horoscopes I think do that totally and and we'll

848
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 2: buy into it and that's all right, that's fun.

849
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: They give us a reason to talk to each other.

850
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 2: It's a it's a conversation piece.

851
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. What about demons? Do you believe in such a thing?

852
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: I grown up Catholic.

853
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I believe that people can house evil themselves

854
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: if you want to say, you know, that's a demon,

855
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 3: however you want to say it.

856
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: But I do believe that people house evil. Yeah, born

857
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: with it, figured it out somewhere along their path, experiences

858
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: upbringing whatever something they're hanging onto that can also turn

859
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: itself into psychologically in your brain can turn it into

860
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: a form of a monster. Almost, Yeah, a psychic break

861
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: of sorts. That happens within you, that's based on whatever

862
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: your experiences are. And I think that we can form

863
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: evil in our brains.

864
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: And that's what I wonder sometimes, Like I'm very open

865
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: about a lot of this stuff, and I don't know,

866
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: but I wonder sometimes if it's like there's these energies that, yeah,

867
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 1: sometimes they're floating inside of someone and then sometimes they're

868
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: in a doll and then like they just kind of

869
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: go from thing to host stuff.

870
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 2: I think, for instance, you know, the one of the

871
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 2: entities that was in my home back then was apparently

872
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 2: not a friendly she said, but she also said it's

873
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: not big enough to be harmful physically in the world,

874
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 2: you know, but was definitely evil intent, like bad evil

875
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 2: intended no goodness, you know, nothing good. And that was

876
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: that energy. But I don't know that that's any different

877
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 2: than say a human being that can also be so

878
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 2: intrinsically fucking evil, and god knows we're loaded with it

879
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: these days, you know. So it's like, I just think

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00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: that that energy, if you pass, then could possibly remain

881
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 2: that energy in that little lipstick soul up there in

882
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: the corner. Yeah, Like it's energy to me.

883
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: But anytime I hear about like an evil demon like that.

884
00:51:54,120 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, I could change him. It's never met me. Oh,

885
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: like he just doesn't know any different. Yeah, he seems

886
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: like a bad guy.

887
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, mixed with my good energy and oh we're

888
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: going to have Yeah, just a real yin yang.

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00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: Did you ever when you were at mad TV? I

890
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: remember Deborah. I asked Deborah about if the studio was haunted,

891
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: and I feel like she said there was like one

892
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: area where she felt some vibes, but not really. I

893
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 1: just always want to talk about Mad TV.

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00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, it's a great thing to talk about.

895
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: Here's this other thing I love to ask people about, like,

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00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: was there any like deja vu or or coincidences or

897
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: stuff like that that led to you having that big

898
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: life change and being on mad TV? And was there

899
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: any like signs at point, like did you did you

900
00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 1: look into it like that, because you know, some people

901
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: very easily could you could go Oh I was supposed

902
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: to be at this place on that day and then

903
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: I ended up auditioning and.

904
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, actually kind of. Yeah. I was

905
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 2: still up in Minneapolis. My son was you know, I

906
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: had a baby at the time that Mad TV started,

907
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 2: and I remember being in the dining room with my

908
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: child and mad TV came on and I said, I'm late.

909
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be in LA. But I was just

910
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 2: a mom in Minneapolis.

911
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:36,919
Speaker 1: Wow.

912
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 2: So when my son was two is when I moved

913
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Speaker 2: out to LA and I was doing an original show

914
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 2: with a bunch of my my gal pals. And casting

915
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: person saw it and she started hooking me up with

916
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 2: casting directors and such. And within the first year Mad

917
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: TV audition came up, and it's just the right audition,

918
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: you know, to happen. I couldn't have gotten into something else.

919
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 2: I didn't have the resume for that, you know, to

920
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: be a mom on a sitcom or something. But my

921
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 2: entire background was pretty much sketch sketch, improv character work.

922
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 2: So you know, I was assassin ready when that audition

923
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: showed up, right, It's like, okay, three characters, three impressions,

924
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: let's fucking go. And I got it. But I remember

925
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: on the there was six auditions total. On the fifth one,

926
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 2: I got let go and I went home and I

927
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: was like, they made a horrible mistake. I was just bawling,

928
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: they made a mistake. I'm still supposed to be there,

929
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: Like I just so so believed that I was supposed

930
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 2: to be on that show since since it came on,

931
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: you know, especially because the women on that show were

932
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 2: just really funny. They got to be funny. They were

933
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 2: given the space and and I really noted that, you know,

934
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: even over SNL, I knew the politics were different.

935
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.

936
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, I was like, oh god, they love it.

937
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 2: And then I got the call for the next you know,

938
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: for the network test, which was like, thank god, I

939
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: thought I thought they fucked up. Yeah, and they you know,

940
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: we're leaving me in the dust. And it's like, m mmmm,

941
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 2: that's my show.

942
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: It was meant to be.

943
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: Oh totally totally.

944
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 1: That's so cool that you're a young mom in Minneapolis

945
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 1: and then you came out. Yeah, that's so cool.

946
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 2: Those are such good days. Like just the dream factory

947
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 2: in my brain was so up and running. Hell yeah right,

948
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 2: Like the energy was all there, just so forward motion.

949
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 2: Everything was just so great. It really was just so great.

950
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 2: I loved that time. I was I think thirty two

951
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 2: when I got mad, which was older for that, you know,

952
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: which is crazy, but that was that was older. Like

953
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 2: Michael McDonald and I were same agent. It was like

954
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: we were on the upper end of things.

955
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: This has been truly incredible. These mat TV ladies, I'm

956
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: telling you, they come in here with their stories.

957
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there were so many more details I didn't

958
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 2: even get into. But yeah, oh my god, it's too long.

959
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: It's too long. I'm telling you.

960
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: There were one of these days. Please come back on

961
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: the show if you ever have anything else finding cool,

962
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 1: spooky or whatever.

963
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is fun. It was I haven't told that

964
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 2: in a while, and it was good and great talking

965
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 2: to you.

966
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: Do you want to tell people to follow you or

967
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: watch anything or.

968
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 2: Follow me if you feel like it. I don't you know.

969
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: Attendance is not mandatory, as they say. I don't know. Yeah,

970
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 2: follow me, come on around, come say I you here?

971
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: Awesome. Well, thank you so much, thank you, thank you

972
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: so much to Vo Collins. Wow wow, Wow. That one

973
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: is going to stick with me. We'll be back next week.

974
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: Make sure you subscribe to the show and tell everyone

975
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: you know about it. I'll talk to you soon. I

976
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: love you all, both living and dead. But if I

977
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me. Came back.

978
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: This has been an exactly right production. Want to share

979
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: your paranormal experience on the podcast, I read stories out

980
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: loud and sometimes I'll even call you, so email me

981
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982
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,360
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983
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984
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985
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Speaker 1: producer is the startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer is the

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Speaker 1: alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and sound designed

988
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:27,160
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989
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: petrifying Patrick Kuttner. My theme music is by the spine

990
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Speaker 1: chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky Vanessa Lilac,

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00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: Photography by the terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced by the

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