1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in our number three Clay Travis 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show. I appreciate all of you hanging out 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: with us as we roll through the middle part of 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: the week and head into a weekend. I know a 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: lot of you out there maybe jumping out of work today, 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: tomorrow or Friday for the long weekend with Monday being 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: July fourth, beings, it's a good time to go ahead 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: and sign up for our show on podcast. You can 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: listen to it wherever you might be Acrosston Country, especially 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: if you're driving somewhere, maybe you're flying and you're worried 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: about getting stuck. And man, I know a lot of 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: you out there are flying and your flights are getting canceled, 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: You're getting stuck at airports. It's a mess right now 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: all over the country. Well, you can search out Clay Travis, 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: you can search out buck Sexton, and you can take 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: us with you wherever you are headed for the holiday. 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: And we've been talking a lot so far in the 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: show about the Cassidy Hutchinson testimony. We had some great 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: calls in the first hour from other lawyers speaking out 21 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: on her hearsay testimony, which was treated yesterday in the 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: early afternoon as bombshell like until all the revelations about 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: the fact that the Secret Service agents who were actually 24 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: in the car on January sixth with Donald Trump were 25 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: going to refute with their eyewitness testimony what she had 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: testified that people had told her via hearsay. And this 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: has not stopped, to some extent, the lionization of Cassidy Hutchinson, 28 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: which occurred and continues to occur from left wingers who 29 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: are obsessed with Donald Trump. This is really the lesson 30 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: of January sixth. Yes, we have awful crime in this country, 31 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: murder rates skyrocketing eight point six percent, inflation, the border 32 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: is a sieve. We've got fifty people who died trying 33 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: to sneak in with cartel smuggling going on. We certainly 34 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: have war in Europe. We got baby formulas, shortages for 35 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: goodness stakes. But if they can focus on January sixth 36 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: and their great satan, which is Donald Trump, none of 37 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: that matters on the same level. And it's not only 38 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: the MSNBC's and the CNNs and the Washington Post and 39 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: the New York Times that are doing this. It's even 40 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: late night talk shows and I wanted to play this cut. 41 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: AOC was on with Stephen Colbert last night. Stephen Colbert 42 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: initially was involved in humor and his humor tengentially in 43 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: the proximity of humor. Yes, every now and then, do 44 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: you see something that goes viral on Twitter? Buck, and 45 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: you just look at the number of people who liked 46 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: it or shared it, and you think to yourself, what 47 00:02:54,840 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: is going on? Stephen Colbert tweeted yesterday, if the Supreme 48 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: Court is going to allow prayer in the middle of 49 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: a high school football field, they should allow high school 50 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: football games in the middle of a church. This is 51 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: such a bad and unfunny joke and not even remotely 52 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: interesting of a comment. And I looked and it got 53 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: thirty thousand likes, and actually, Annie, the top result I 54 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: see is this joke is worse than January sixth, which 55 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: is actually way funnier than Stephen Colbert's attempted joke. But 56 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: it's emblematic Buck, of this sort of weird and not 57 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: even remotely intelligent cottage industry that has emerged. Stephen Colbert 58 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: was not good as a late night TV show host, 59 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: so he just basically started a propaganda show that was 60 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: anti Trump, and then it was successful. But it's not 61 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: a comedy show anymore. And I'm going to talk about 62 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: AOC in a moment. But we were talking about this 63 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: tweet off air, and you were like, if one of 64 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: us said that on air, it would make us want 65 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: to cringe. Yeah, I'd come back later on apologize to 66 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: the audience for assaulting their ears with something so dumb. Yeah, 67 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: do you think you know? I certainly don't lack for confidence. 68 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm confident that I could do a better late night 69 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: talk show than Stephen Colbert, not even night talk show, 70 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: never even been a guest on a late night he's 71 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: not even writing his own joke that he's got a 72 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: huge cottage industry of people writing his show for him, 73 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: and it's still awful every night. I mean what we 74 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: do with radio as we sit down and we talk 75 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: for three hours a day with whatever comes to mind 76 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: and whatever we think is important after reading for hours 77 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: before we come on the show. A lot of people 78 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: who are in the news entertainment space, which I think, 79 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: which you'd have to call now the Colbert Show, right, 80 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: it's not Yes, it's not really a comedy show. It's 81 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: kind of a new It's essentially the next iteration of 82 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: the Daily Show. While clever, I always recognized it for 83 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: what it was when John Stewart was the host there. 84 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: I mean, no one even cares Trevor Noah is propped 85 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: up by the liberal system. No one actually thinks he's 86 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: particularly talented, funny, or good at what he does. They 87 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: gave him this show. No one ever heard of the 88 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: guy before they gave him the show. But that it 89 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: doesn't have any residence. You never even see people talking 90 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: about Daily Show clips anymore. What John Stewart did was 91 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: create a world where the libs are all their worldview 92 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: is always validated, and the other side gets made fun 93 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: of and if anyone pushed back on it, it's just jokes, man, 94 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: it's just jokes. I'm just a comedian. Some have described 95 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: it as clown nose on, clown nose off right, you know, 96 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: or it's sword and shield. Oh, I'm not really serious. Actually, 97 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: I want to sit down and talk to the Secretary 98 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: of Defense. Now, that's the whole game, right, And they've 99 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: been able to get away with this for a long 100 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: time in different places, But the late night comedy shows 101 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: aren't really comedy shows that heymore And it's really in 102 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: keeping with the fact that they can't they can't actually 103 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: make jokes, Clay, we know this. The only people they 104 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: can make jokes about are Republicans and uh and cisgender, 105 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: hetero white males, anyone else that they make jokes about. 106 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: I mean, look what just happened to Dave wigle over 107 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: at the at the Washington Post. He didn't even make 108 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: the joke suspension, like the joke paid suspension. You're not 109 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: even allowed. You don't even to make a joke about it, 110 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: you know about it. I would have re emphasized that 111 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: I think this is a good joke, all right, And 112 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: again I'm paraphrasing. All he did. This is how crazy 113 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: the left has become. All he did was retweet. All 114 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: he did was retweet this joke. Every girl is by. 115 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: You just have to figure out whether it's by curious 116 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: or or it's already bisec I've already be messed up 117 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: the joke bisexual or bipolar. Right, the joke is on 118 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: the word by, and it's actually kind of funny, right, Like, 119 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm sort of messed up that joke there, But a 120 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: lot of you would smile or you might snicker. He 121 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: got suspended for a month from his job for retweeting 122 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: somebody else's joke. I just I can't believe that we 123 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: have reached this world into your point, Buck, That's emblematic 124 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: of what's going on late night television. They can't even 125 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: make jokes because somebody's gonna be offended. So they basically 126 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: run propaganda networks now, which are designed to ridicule Republicans. 127 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: What what is out there right? I mean, you look 128 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: at the day to day there is so much to 129 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: make fun of with the Biden ministas, Joe Biden himself, 130 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, if you were really a comedian, looking, Kamala 131 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: is a model mine Kamala Harris provides. I mean just 132 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: her sound bites. You don't have to go back into 133 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: her you know, policy statements or whatever. Just she was 134 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: a side chick for much of her political career. I mean, 135 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: you don't even have to go into that, although it 136 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: is funny. But how about Biden falling off of his bike? 137 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: Can you imagine if Trump had fallen like Biden fell 138 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: off the bike. But the problem is their audience has 139 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: been trained the Democrat mindset in the coasts particularly so 140 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: you know New England, New York, New Jersey, California, and 141 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest. You know that the coastal blue Staters 142 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: have really been trained to think that jokes are mean. 143 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: You can't laugh. You can't laugh at a joke that 144 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: involves anybody unless you despise them, and so that means 145 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: which is not true, but that's their mentality, or you know, 146 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: you're punching down or you're undermining them as human beings 147 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: or whatever. And so, as a result of that new framework, 148 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: the only as I said, the only people they can 149 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: make fun of. But you see this all the time, 150 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: constantly making fun of right wing Republicans. Right wing Republicans 151 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: aren't very funny. I mean hate to break into them. 152 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: It's not that much that's that funny about conservatives, which 153 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: is why they're shows stink. And so AOC went on 154 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: for like a twenty five minute infomercial last night with 155 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert, and she was praising Cassidy. I don't think 156 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: AOC is smart enough to even understand what what I 157 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: don't want to say is I don't want to do 158 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: rail from the AOC's name, But can I just put 159 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: it out an idea and then I promise we'll we'll 160 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: get this AOC clip. AOC's political career. If she had 161 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: to do a Lincoln Douglas style debate, right, which is 162 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: what I did in high school. I don't know what 163 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: they call it other places. If she did LD style 164 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: debate with either one of us for an hour or 165 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: any number of our conservative brothers and sisters in the movement, 166 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, in media for an hour, her political career 167 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: I think would be over. They never Actually, this is 168 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: one of the problems in the new media environment. These 169 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: people who are the paragons of ideology for their side 170 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: can get away with being total ignor, amiss and morons 171 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: without having you know, say what you will about some 172 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: of the you know, you know. James Carville at least 173 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: would mix it up with people. You know what I mean, 174 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you look, I mean, I know. He's not 175 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: a politician. He disagree with Bernie Bernie Sanders. I disagree 176 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: with much of what he says. Bernie Sanders is able 177 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: to defend what he believes in, whether you agree or 178 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: disagree with him, right, he is smart enough to understand, 179 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: I think, on some level, the larger permutations of his 180 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: policies he would debate with you or me, I think, 181 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: and be proven wrong. He's basically he's basically a communist 182 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: who complains about rich people and always says everyone's gonna 183 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: get free healthcare, end of story. But he will say that, yes, 184 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: and I think he at least understands it on some level. 185 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: I really question whether AOC is able to unpack the 186 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: vast majority of what she says. So I derailed AOC 187 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: reacted to Hutchinson. Clay called for this way. AOC loved 188 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: Cassidy Hutchinson. Last night, she went on Stephen Colbert and 189 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: said this, It was just stunning to understand and see 190 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: the detail and the depth through which there was also 191 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: just a conscientiousness of guilt. They knew that what they 192 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: were doing was wrong. When at the very end of 193 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: this hearing, you hear that Mark Meadows, the chief of 194 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: staff to the President himself, asked for a pardon because 195 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: he knew that he was breaking the law in order 196 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: to seize power and undermine democracy in the United States 197 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 1: of America. It is stunning, It is absolutely stunning, and 198 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: that the president himself was willing to choke his own 199 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: secret service in order to do so it's not true. Right, 200 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: the Secret Service are testifying this not true. But I 201 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: just want to mention she says, absolutely stunning that anyone 202 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: would seek a pardon. I think Republicans need to push 203 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: back more aggressively on this. It does not stun me 204 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: at all that if you were a Republican who was 205 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: fighting against the election of Joe Biden and making aggressive 206 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: legal arguments as a part of that fight, would it 207 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: surprise you at all, Buck if you were charged with 208 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: a crime based on the way we've Democrats use the 209 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: Department of Justice as a weapon of their political party. 210 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: So I don't buy into the concept here which is 211 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: being spread, and I think not fought back against very 212 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: aggressively that the only reason you would ask for a 213 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: pardon is because you think you did something wrong. No, no, no, 214 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: I think most of these guys and girls who if 215 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: they did, and I'm not saying they did, but if 216 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: they did, it wouldn't be because they believed they did 217 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: something wrong. I don't think they believe that at all. 218 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: It would be because they think they're going to get 219 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: a show trial like Donald Trump is and might get 220 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: prosecuted for political show even though they did nothing wrong. 221 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: That makes complete sense to me that you would say, Hey, 222 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: could I get a pardon for this? Yeah. The Muller 223 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: probe destroyed any faith that a rational person should have 224 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: in the Department of Justice and the FBI's ability to 225 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: be nonpartisan when the most sensitive political issues are at stake. 226 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: So of course people would be concerned about that, would 227 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,599 Speaker 1: be thinking about that going forward. And I mean I 228 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: think as well, you have to look, what exactly do 229 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: they think they're going to get out of all of this? Right? 230 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: Are they going to prosecute Donald Trump? I keep wondering 231 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: about this. What is the charge going to be? What 232 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: would the charge have even been for Mark Meadows or 233 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: Rooty Giuliani? What lying about an election result? I got 234 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: news for libs. They got a lot of people running 235 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: around to have a long history of lying about elections, 236 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: lying about Russia collusion. This is the criminalization of politics. 237 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: Unless Donald Trump himself was down on the Capitol grounds 238 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: in the building with the big furry hat on end 239 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: the spear, they need to shut their mouths about prosecuting 240 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: the former president. It's ridiculous. I agree with all of that. 241 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: I would also add another reason why you might want 242 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: to pardon it is you might have to spend millions 243 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: of dollars of your own money, even if you did 244 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: nothing wrong defending yourself. The process is the punishment. That's 245 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: exactly right, and so I think Republicans need to do 246 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: a better job fighting back against asking for a pardon 247 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 1: means you did something wrong. No, no, no, It probably 248 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: means that you foresee that Democrats are going to use 249 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice in a political manner. That's why 250 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: we are here at clay the cracker knuckles and throw 251 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: some haymakers. I just think that Republicans are doing a 252 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: poor job of responding to that attack, and I think 253 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: it's not a difficult attack to respond to. And I 254 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: also think AOC is an imbecile and the Stephen Colbert 255 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: Show sucks. By the way, if you own a business 256 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: with five or more employees and you succeeded in staying 257 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: opening through the COVID pandemic, you're eligible to receive a 258 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: payroll tax rebate of twenty six thousand dollars an employee, 259 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: not alone. 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How are you doing, Mark, We're doing good, Megados. 279 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: Claian Buck, Yes, sir, I'm not surprised that the January 280 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: sixth allowed us hearsay evidence when you consider that Donald 281 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: Trump was impeached on vendments hearsay testimony. So it's a 282 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: good point. Yeah, they've they've already set the standard. That's 283 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: an that's an excellent point. They don't and Mark, we're 284 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: seeing that's the same playbook. It's just pretending that there's 285 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: a process. I mean, thank you for calling in Mark. 286 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: You know, Clay, you go back to English common law, 287 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: magna carta, the you know. And then then obviously after that, 288 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: the American founding the history of European monarchs and of 289 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: concentrated power is they abuse people. Usually there's some process 290 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: they make believes they're going through. Right, Oh we're gonna 291 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: have a trial. Oh you're guilty of treason. Off with 292 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: your head. Right, That's the way it used to be. 293 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: The reason we have evidentiary rules, we have both sides represented, 294 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: we have a right against self incrimination. All these things 295 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: is because otherwise you have this you people saying, look, 296 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: we have a trial, there's evidence. This is justice. Of course, 297 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: what the jan six Committee's doing isn't justice. It's not 298 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: even meant to be. Just think buck of how many 299 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: people were supposed to be the hero for Democrats and 300 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: I can just run through a few of them, and 301 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: how crazy many of them are. Stormy Daniels, we had 302 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: the Michael Avinadi Muller, Vinman. Now we got Cassidy Hutchinson, 303 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: so many at Liz Cheney, so many of these people 304 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: out there. We're supposed to take Trump down, and it's 305 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: like Lucy with the football. They come running full speed 306 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: up and they're like, we got them now, and then 307 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: the football gets moved away the kick attempt, and then 308 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: they end up laying on their back. Left wingers do 309 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: staring at the sky wrong again. When I want to 310 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: get a little bit, a little bit snarky with libs 311 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: who come up to me and go, why are you 312 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,239 Speaker 1: what's about Trump? I always asked them, you know, why 313 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: don't I hate Trump? I say, why do you guys 314 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: have to keep lying about him? And why are your 315 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: anti Trump? 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January six Let's be honest, as 343 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: Buck and I have told you for a long time, 344 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: is really just about trying to make Donald Trump not 345 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: a viable twenty twenty four candidate. Now, I actually think 346 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: January sixth makes him far more likely to run because 347 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: he wants to be able to fire back at all 348 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: of his critics. But there are right now a lot 349 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: of Republicans doing the around work, doing all the behind 350 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: the scenes details to get ready to be able to 351 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: run themselves. And I was reading this morning, Buck, Washington 352 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: Post has a monster profile piece on Virginia Governor Glenn 353 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: Junkin and the fact that he just went up to 354 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: New York City to raise money from some of the 355 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: biggest money Republican supporters in New York, where we were 356 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: by the way at the same time, and that Junkin 357 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: is aggressively exploring a potential run for president. We know 358 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: and have talked about the fact that Florida Governor Ron 359 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: DeSantis is also exploring his own run, and interestingly, and 360 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: we'll play the audio for you on this in a 361 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: little bit. But Joe Rogan came out and said that 362 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: he thinks that Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida could be 363 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: a good option as well. So Mike Pompeio seems like 364 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: he is going to run. I think it's fair to 365 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: say Mike Pence is going to run. All of this 366 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: buck leads to an interesting question, are there actually going 367 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: to be so many Republicans running that Trump is going 368 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: to think twice about it? Or the more Republicans that run, 369 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: is it actually better for Trump? Because we know that 370 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: whatever cadre of the Republican Party, let's say are die 371 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: hard maga people, and let's say it's a third of 372 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: all Republican voters, just tossing out a number could be 373 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: high or could be lower. Is that better for Trump? 374 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: In other words, the more people who decide to jump 375 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: in in twenty twenty four, do you think that impacts 376 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: the way that Trump himself buck is thinking about the 377 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: idea of running, and or as more people run, does 378 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: it make him maybe even more likely because his path 379 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: the nomination could be even easier if you look at 380 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: the twenty fifteen twenty sixteen period and who got into 381 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: the Republican primary. There it was. I think that's right 382 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: nineteen because the nineteen candidates and Trump very early on, 383 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: and this is often I think forgotten. It should get 384 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: more attention. Trump jumped out ahead of everybody in terms 385 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: of an individual level of support as soon as the immigration. 386 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: That as soon as he took immigration and ran with it, 387 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: and build the wall and we're going to make Mexico 388 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: pay for it, and we're going to deport illegal immigrants 389 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: who come here without respect for our laws. That was 390 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: the issue that really Yeah, of course Trump's super well 391 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: known all that, but it was on immigration more than 392 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: any other issue that he separated himself from the rest 393 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: of the field. If you look at how that played out, 394 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: I think you'd have to come away believing you can 395 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: never prove this that it was helpful to then Donald Trump, 396 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: now president or former President Trump, that you had so 397 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: many different candidates this timer. I mean, Clay, I just 398 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: think there are so many any possibilities here. I think 399 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: there's so many what ifs that it's really hard to 400 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: get a sense of it. I mean, there are going 401 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: to be people who run for on the Republican side 402 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: who just want to up their national and by the way, 403 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't say this disparagingly. There are some candidates for 404 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: whom running is the opportunity to maybe get their their 405 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: perspective as a conservative, as Republican heard. You know. For example, 406 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: I would say someone like Senator Rampaul we have had 407 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: on the show many times, never came close really in 408 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: the polls to winning the Republican nomination, but he was 409 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: a guy who every time he was on stage, I'm like, 410 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm glad that Senator Paul is there being heard on 411 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: these issues. You know, I'm glad the party has somebody 412 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: with his perspective there. So I don't say, oh, they're 413 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: just gonna run their knocking and there's some other people 414 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: who want, you know, they want to up their speaking 415 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: fees and get the book deals. Then I'm a capitalist. 416 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not hating on that. But you know, 417 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: they're gonna go to the big book tour and then 418 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: or they're gonna go on the big speaking tour, and 419 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: that's that's what it's all about. But you're gonna have 420 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: one thing, I do know. I mean, instead of just 421 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: doing all the all the possibilities in the what ifs, 422 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: one thing I do know is you look at the 423 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: Republican bench of possible contenders. Yeah, you've got really talented, deep, 424 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: serious people, you know, I mean, just just put it. 425 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not trying to upset anybody who 426 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: is die hard. Trump is gonna run again and Trump 427 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: is gonna win again. That could well happen, and that 428 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: would be great. But if you look at the other 429 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: people just on the Republican bench, just to give a 430 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: sense of the strength of the party, Rond de Santis 431 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: obviously has practically worked a miracle in the state of Florida. 432 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: Um one, As a New Yorker who used to escape 433 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: to Florida in the pandemic, I feel very personally attached 434 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: to uh, Glenn Younkin is doing a really good job 435 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: in I mean, there's a whole bunch of people I know, 436 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: you know Ted, you know a lot of a lot 437 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: of Ted Cruz supporters in our audience who would love 438 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: to see him run again, right Scott. A lot of 439 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: people want Tim mt people want Nicky Haley. These are 440 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: all these are all serious people who I think would 441 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: do a good job. Just question of who would do 442 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: the best job and who would win against the whoever 443 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: the because we don't even know who the Democrat is. 444 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: Of course, really, I think one reason you're seeing so 445 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: many people put their name in the hat, You're right, 446 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: because there's some people who say, maybe I've got a 447 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: two percent chance of being the nominee, and they just 448 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: decide I could at least elevate my profile. The Democrats 449 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: bench is so weak and their potential candidate is so weak. 450 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: I think it feels a little bit. One of my 451 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: buddies made this analogy. He said, the Republicans right now 452 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: are like the SEC in college football. Whoever comes out 453 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: of the SEC is probably gonna win the national championship, 454 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: and then the Democrats are just gonna toss up somebody 455 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: who gets wrecked in that championship. You know, we're a 456 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: year into this show, and I understand that. Got that analogy. 457 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: I got it, baby, I'm locked in SEC football. I 458 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: know some things, and I apologize to all the Big 459 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: ten listeners out there and all the Big twelve and 460 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: PAC twelve and ACC fan bases. But in general, the 461 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: SEC right now is to me aken to the Republican 462 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: presidential primary candidates, and the best team out of the 463 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: SEC is going to run roughshod over whoever the Democrats 464 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: put up, Which is the best team in the rest 465 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: of the country. This is Joe Rogan. I referenced this 466 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: and said we would hear it. Here is Joe Rogan 467 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: on his podcast It's one of the most popular podcast 468 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: is in the world, discussing with Gina Corrano from The 469 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: Daily Wire fired at the Mandalorian for not having the 470 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: right opinions on he was the top m m A fighter. 471 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,959 Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, as well. Here they are discussing the 472 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: idea of Ronda Santis. Listen, didn't Elon Musk come out 473 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: recently for de Santis? Yeah? I think Ronda Santis would 474 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: work as a good president. I think. I mean, what 475 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: he's done for Florida has been admirable. I feel like 476 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: what he did for Florida, a lot of people gave 477 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: him a lot of grief, but ultimately he was correct. 478 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: He was correct when it comes to like deaths, he 479 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: was corrected. When it comes to protecting all vulnerable populations. 480 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: He was correct in terms of distribution of monoca antibodies, 481 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: and he was furious when the government tried to pull 482 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: those they were trying to pull very effective treatments, you know, 483 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: He is not perfect, he's a human being, but what 484 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: he's done is stand up for freedoms. I'm really happy 485 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: to hear Joe Rogan say that, because you know, Rhonda 486 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: Santis was correct about how he dealt with COVID and Florida. No, 487 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: there is no good faith argument to be had against 488 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: him based on the numbers. The numbers are in the 489 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: datas in. You know, it's like we ran a race 490 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: and Rhonda Santis was the first one across the finish tape, 491 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: and you know, so there's that I mean. But also 492 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: just to pointed out, you know, Rhonda Santis is in 493 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: a great spot. But after last week as well, Donald 494 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: Trump most pro life president in history, and with those judges, 495 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: not only do we have that Roe v Way decision, 496 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna have two good decisions coming down most likely, 497 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm assuming tomorrow. I think we may see the end 498 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: of affirmative action as and I think that's going to 499 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,479 Speaker 1: happen this fall. So it's been a big it's been 500 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,239 Speaker 1: a big month for Trump, and I think it's been 501 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: a big a big first couple of quarters for a 502 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: governor or santist. When you look at the growth in Florida, 503 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: the So I'm just trying to say, man, we have 504 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: look at our side where we're sitting here talking about 505 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: we're comparing awesomeness, and look at their side where it's like, yeah, 506 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: maybe I don't know, maybe they're gonna have who exact Pete, 507 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: by the view said the dream candidate and team was 508 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris and Mayor Pete, And I think all of 509 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: you at that would be awesome. I actually would say, oh, 510 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: with a straight face, can we can we donate to 511 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: the Mayor Pete Kamala superpack because we need to get 512 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: that going. Buck. They spent a lot of money in 513 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: Colorado and Illinois Democrats did trying to pick their opponents 514 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: that failed in Colorado may have won in Illinois. But 515 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 1: I kind of think maybe they bought off something they 516 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: don't want to really be taking on. But if right 517 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: now I could choose, if I could pencil in Kamala 518 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: Harris president mayor Pete vice president, I would sign up 519 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: to run on any Republican we just mentioned against that ticket. 520 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 1: And just circling back around on how we started this, 521 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: I think January sixth is blowing up in Democrats faces. 522 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: They thought that they were going to remove Donald Trump 523 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: from the twenty twenty four contender list. I think what 524 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: they're doing is actually guaranteeing that he runs, because they're 525 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: infuriating him and not letting him just kind of ride 526 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: off into the sunset. They're trying to put him in jail, 527 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: and if you're Donald Trump, you want the vindication. I 528 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: don't want to go to jail, but I also want 529 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: to kick your ass and be president. We were talking 530 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: about Grizzly Bears before, because it's that kind of show. 531 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: We talked about a lot of things. Don't poke the 532 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: Trump Grizzly Bear, folks. It's bigger, stronger, and faster than 533 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: you think lives. 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Use the code Clay and 555 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: Buck call eight hundred seven nine two thirty two sixty nine. 556 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: And I can't believe the show is already in its 557 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: final segment. It feels like we have so much more 558 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: to talk about. We do. In fact, that's so much 559 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: more to talking about. The good news is Clay and 560 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: I will be back with you tomorrow and every weekday thereafter. 561 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: And if you missed any part of today, we do 562 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: have a wonderful podcast. Not only is it on demand 563 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: listening for you, but it's broken up hour by hour 564 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: and there is a best of Go to Clay Travis 565 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show to check that out. And we 566 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: are already looking at some great guests coming up later 567 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: on in the week. We're gonna have some really good 568 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: discussions there. Some Supreme Court cases gonna come down tomorrow 569 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: that are they're gonna be good. They're not gonna be 570 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: like backflip, Oh my gosh, the restoration of constitutional governance 571 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: good like Friday, but they're gonna be pretty good like 572 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: solid gentlemen's b plus kind of Supreme Court cases. I 573 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: think coming down tomorrow on the EPA, that's going to 574 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: be a very good one. I think, Clay, you had 575 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: something do we want to Why don't we put the 576 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: question out there and maybe we do a poll of 577 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: our own audiences on social social media Proud to be 578 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: an American, which of course makes me think of the 579 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: song right, yes, the question proud to be an American. 580 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: There's some data out there. This may not shock you, 581 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: but there seems to be a correlation between being on 582 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: your eighth vaccine shot, your sixth Ukraine flag in your 583 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: Facebook profile, ownership of a lot of cats, no offense Clay, 584 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: and not necessarily being a big fan of being an American. 585 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: Based on the data, I'm just gonna put that out there. 586 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: I have an inclination that there are a lot of 587 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: people on the left that don't like yeah preview here 588 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: in two thousand and three, sixty five percent of Democrats 589 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: we're proud to be Americans. Now, this is during the 590 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: George W. Bush administration, sixty five percent. Recently, this is 591 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: according to Gallup, just twenty six percent of Democrats are 592 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: proud to be Americans. I will say that is actually 593 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: even lower. I thought it would be low, but I 594 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: did think it would at least be in the thirties. So, 595 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: and what's wild about this Buck two thousand and thirteen, 596 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: Now this is during the Biden during the Obama administration, 597 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,719 Speaker 1: but fifty six percent of Democrats were proud to be Americans. 598 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: Fifty six percent, so in the space of basically nine years. 599 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: And they're in control of both sides of government, right, 600 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: They're in control of the House, the Senate, and the 601 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: White House. Usually there is some correlation about looking at 602 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: this chart over the last twenty some odd years, when 603 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: your party is in power, you feel better about America, 604 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: which makes some sense if you think about the White 605 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: House and the President being somebody that you voted for 606 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 1: and you're happy. But the numbers on Republicans are intriguing too. 607 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: As we get ready for July fourth, I think we 608 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: could open up the phone lines and maybe the Thursday 609 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: or Friday edition of the program and have a deeper 610 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: discussion about this and where we're going as a country. 611 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: When one political party twenty six percent of them, that 612 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: means three out of four are not proud to be 613 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: Americans if they are Democrats. There are a lot of Democrats. 614 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: I think as an ideology, Democrats embrace a degree of 615 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: misery and victimhood, and then it gets exacerbated. They magnify 616 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: it because when people are already prone to think of 617 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: themselves that way, that's how you reach them, right, That's 618 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: you tell them, oh, it's not just you're upset about things. 619 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: You think everything's unfair. You know you're gonna go cry 620 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: about it. It's even worse than you think. This country's 621 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: even more oppressive, sexist, racist, imperialist than you the left 622 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: think it is. It's a way of playing to people's 623 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: biases and also controlling them because you're just leaning in 624 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 1: even further with their delusion. Clay, I'd be willing to argue, 625 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: I'm willing to bet. I don't know if they have 626 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: data on this, but to your point about party affiliation, 627 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: party in power, and feelings about the country, I bet 628 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: you conservatives Republicans, Conservatives are much more likely to still 629 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: love America when their parties not in power than Democrats are. 630 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: That is a very strong argument based on this data 631 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: from Gallop and were when you get to twenty six percent. 632 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: And again, I would just point out that as recently 633 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: as seven eight years ago, a majority of Democrats were 634 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: very proud to be Americans. What has occurred that has 635 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: led to that disaster? I think it's a really interesting 636 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: debate we should have and discussion we should have. As 637 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: we roll into July fourth weekend Thursday Friday, we will 638 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: be with all of you. We know a lot of 639 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: you are going to be on the road. Encourage you 640 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: to subscribe to the podcast. Make sure you don't miss 641 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: a moment. Buck, We've got some good stuff coming up 642 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: rolling into the weekend. Yes, sir, we're gonna have the 643 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: Attorney General of the state of Arizona. Tomorrow A G. 644 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: Mark Bernovich talking about well the border, which is getting 645 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: a lot of attention this week, but also tomorrow will 646 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: be the Remain in Mexico decision from the Supreme Court, 647 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: some big Supreme Court decisions that will be tomorrow, and 648 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: then of course Friday, because this is the clam Buck Show, 649 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about some stuff like how awesome America 650 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: still is. Yes, that's right. We love this place. We 651 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: love Independence Day weekend, top three holiday for sure. Sleet 652 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth. 653 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: M