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Speaker 2: Let's get into it. It's July twenty twenty four and

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Speaker 2: two sisters are about to make a big decision.

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Speaker 1: We are very quiet. We would not in a million

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Speaker 1: years want to make ourselves put out there for anyway.

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Speaker 2: They're building up the courage to send an email.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't even sing a song if you asked me

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Speaker 1: to in company.

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Speaker 2: This is Bernie.

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Speaker 1: We've talked long and hard about this.

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Speaker 2: Bernie and her younger sister Kathleen feel like they're in

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Speaker 2: a battle, a battle for their big sister Elizabeth.

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Speaker 3: We had tried every avenue, everything, We appealed and appealed

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Speaker 3: and appealed.

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Speaker 1: We went to the DPP.

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Speaker 3: They said No, we went to the Guarded Commissioner.

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Speaker 1: No, we went to State's Solicitor's office.

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Speaker 2: No, the email. Bernie and Kathleen are planning on sending

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Speaker 2: it's to us.

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Speaker 1: This is our last resort.

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Speaker 2: And when they do send it, they'll be breaking the

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Speaker 2: seal of silence their family has held for almost fifty years.

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Speaker 1: Sunday night, we're on the phone to each other and

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Speaker 1: Kathleen said, I'm thinking of what to say in the email.

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Speaker 1: I said, to it off out here, I'll send it now.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Plunkett was one of the victims of Ireland's first

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Speaker 2: serial killers, and all these years later, Bernie and Kathleen

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Speaker 2: are attempting to finally seek justice and restore some dignity

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Speaker 2: for their sister.

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Speaker 4: Dear documentary on one team. My name is Kathleen, my sister, Bernadette,

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Speaker 4: and I are the younger sisters of Elizabeth Blunkett, who

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Speaker 4: was one of the victims of JS and GE along

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Speaker 4: with Mary Duffy in the summer of nineteen seventy six.

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Speaker 4: It's too long and detailed a story to explain properly

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Speaker 4: by email. Kind regards Bernadette Barry, Kathleen Nolan, go back.

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Speaker 1: Anthony and said I've sent the email and I want,

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Speaker 1: oh no, no, what are you going to do? What

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Speaker 1: are we going to do? And then she got back

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Speaker 3: I think fifteen twenty minutes later I got a reply

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Speaker 3: and he said, I'd be very interesting to speak with you.

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Speaker 2: And that's how we first came to meet Bernie and Kathleen.

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Speaker 2: Bernie and Kathleen are in their sixties. Kathleen works in

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Speaker 2: healthcare and Bernie's retired. Warm and clearly close sisters finishing

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Speaker 2: off each other's sentences, just like me and my sisters.

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Speaker 2: Something you'll hear it throughout the podcast and the other

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Speaker 2: voices you might hear throughout our producers Nicoline yeah okay

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Speaker 2: and Lean okay, war On. And one other thing I

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Speaker 2: should tell you is that this story includes details of

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Speaker 2: sexual violence. It could be difficult for some listeners, so

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Speaker 2: please keep that in mind and take care.

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Speaker 5: Gordiet Wick Close, supported by detectives from Dublin Castle, have

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Speaker 5: intensified their search for the Dublin girl Elizabeth Plunkett, who's

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Speaker 5: missing for ten days. Detectives joined the search after some

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Speaker 5: clothing and shoes belonging to the girl were found about

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Speaker 2: The reason Bernie and Cathleen are finally speaking out is

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Speaker 2: not just because of what happened to their sister, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 1: I thought all these things were taken care of. I

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Speaker 3: Seen myself, at sixty two years of age dealing with this.

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Speaker 2: Everything they thought they knew about what happened after Elizabeth's murder,

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Speaker 2: they only recently found out. It's all wrong.

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Speaker 1: When somebody's murdered. The only people they have to speak

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Speaker 1: for them and their family. We're being denied any sort

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Speaker 1: of justice. We're Elizabeth's voice.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm Ral's pursal and from Orte documentary on one,

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Speaker 2: This is Stolen's sister, Episode one Elizabeth.

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Speaker 1: This is Pember Cottage is now where we used to live,

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Speaker 1: where Elizabeth lived.

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Speaker 2: This little street of Terrace Cottages is in rings End,

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Speaker 1: Just see it's a river wall. When we were kids,

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Speaker 2: Rings End is busy today traffic from the East Link

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Speaker 1: Very few cars, so you could kick ball and play tennis.

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Speaker 1: Great summer's Katie playing here. Nobody closed their doors. You

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth came from a family of ten. Her mother and

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Speaker 2: father had eight children, four boys and four girls. Elizabeth

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Speaker 2: Their parents lept on a pull out bed in the

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Speaker 6: Pembroke College was a small, tiny cottage. You couldn't all

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Speaker 6: There wasn't a bob in rings End.

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Speaker 7: If you don't know any difference, you think it's quite normal,

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Speaker 2: And Thomas was Elizabeth's little brother.

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Speaker 7: I was the youngest boy and ahead of me was Elizabeth,

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Speaker 7: so we were quite close. She had a big personality.

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Speaker 7: She could be quite bossy as well, actually, you know,

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Speaker 2: The other siblings were Leem, Sean and Joan. The eldest

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Speaker 1: We have lovely pictures of us all at the wedding

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Speaker 1: across the road there in the church Baernie and Ireflower girls.

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Speaker 1: Lizith bridesmaid.

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Speaker 1: She was like maid of honor, very happy times.

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Speaker 2: If you look across the Irish Sea from rings End

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Speaker 2: northwest of England. This is where the two men who

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Speaker 2: would take Elizabeth's life came from. JS and Ge, as

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth's sisters call them, they can't even say their name still.

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Speaker 8: Week, one of the most notorious crimes ever committed in

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Speaker 2: Ireland's for serial killers.

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Speaker 8: People will remember the name Sean Evans It's as evocative

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Speaker 8: here as Myra Hindley and Ian Brady are in the UK.

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Speaker 9: Through the most evil, diabolical human beings that I ever

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Speaker 2: As Elizabeth grew up in the safe surroundings of Ringsend,

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Speaker 2: John Shaw and Jeffrey Evans racked up multiple convictions for birdery, assault,

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Speaker 2: possession of heroine and attempted rape. In between prison sentences,

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Speaker 2: Evans worked as a labor and Shaw as a coal miner.

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Speaker 2: They both married and had children. They actually only met

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Speaker 2: robberies and assault. When Shaw was being sentenced, the judge

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Speaker 10: Him this appalling sexual assault was one of the worst

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Speaker 10: You are a persistent and dangerous criminal and a menace

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Speaker 2: All of this was a million miles from the life

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Speaker 1: There was a colorful time then the beginning of the seventies.

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Speaker 1: After coming through the sixties, there was a big kind

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Speaker 1: was more work and there was more money. So they

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Speaker 1: were saying, don't stick back in the old fashioned way

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Speaker 1: stayed at home. This wasn't going to be a life

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Speaker 2: When Elizabeth was about sixteen, she got a job in

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Speaker 2: a local factory called Thomas Delarue, a company that printed

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Speaker 1: I started to work with her in Delarue. We were

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Speaker 6: Elizabeth was the woman around the house. She was the

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Speaker 1: If she got in her mindset on something, she was

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Speaker 1: going to do it headstrong, you'd call it and mud

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Speaker 1: have them brothers, she would stand up to them because

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Speaker 1: of person she was. Do you know that energy that

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Speaker 1: that age group has. Everybody though fashioned. If she'd argue

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Speaker 1: with my dad, she'd say, that's my prerogative, and we'd

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Speaker 1: What the prerogative? You know? So she read Cosmo and

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Speaker 2: Eddie's house and Cork he picks up a picture in

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Speaker 6: Lovely photograph of Elizabeth.

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Speaker 11: She was.

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Speaker 6: Full of it, very confident, very athletic, so that oh

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Speaker 2: For everyone in the Plunkett family, their lives have a

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Speaker 2: before and an after. Life before Elizabeth was murdered, My.

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Speaker 6: Mother would dance around the kitchen and sing. She thought

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Speaker 6: Very united, large Dublin workant class family. The bond then

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Speaker 2: And life after Elizabeth was murdered and those lives are

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Speaker 6: Little did we know that all of this would come

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Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy four, as Elizabeth turned twenty one, Sean

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Speaker 2: Evans were released from prison in England and within a

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Speaker 10: The police hunt for two men believed to have been

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Speaker 12: Today, women in the area of Cheshire were worn Today

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Speaker 12: don't walk alone in isolated spots. The warning came from

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Speaker 12: police hunting two men who callously raped a fifteen year

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Speaker 2: At the time, there was a large man hunt, but

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Speaker 2: John Evans evaded justice. They assumed false identities and came

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Speaker 2: Once they got here, they began carrying out burgeries before

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Speaker 2: getting caught and sentenced to two years in Dublin's Mountjoy Prison. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 13: You know, it was just that that was just the

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Speaker 1: They obviously clicked with each other. He would come down

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Speaker 2: Damien was a mechanic working in the family garage business

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Speaker 1: He had the coolest Capri car, like I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: My dad had a very what would you call a

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Speaker 1: But Damien was a really nice guy. I have to

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Speaker 2: Damien was into cars and around the time he'd met Elizabeth,

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Speaker 2: bizarrely this deal would play a part in changing the

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Speaker 1: She was in on knowing it and she was in

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Speaker 2: And Elizabeth was also beginning to explore the world beyond Ireland.

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Speaker 1: She was in Bulgaria as well, Spain, and a few times.

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Speaker 2: In July nineteen seventy six, Elizabeth, together with her boyfriend

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Speaker 1: And were thinking, oh my god, how excited. It's so different.

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Speaker 3: They were camping and caravanning and boating, you name it.

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Speaker 3: But that's the most beautiful pictures of our.

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Speaker 1: There's the pictures steady artitude of them together. Isn't that

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Speaker 1: They were only five months together, but you know they're

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Speaker 2: The photo show Elizabeth lying in the grass wearing kind

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Speaker 1: She loved her style. She loved to go up grafting straight,

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth some clothes in France, including a navy jumper with

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth came back from santra Pe. In early August nineteen

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Speaker 2: seventy six, John Shaw was released from prison in Dublin.

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Speaker 2: He was immediately arrested on foot of an extradition warrant

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Speaker 2: his identity, and three weeks later, the exact same thing

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Speaker 2: Reservoirs, nineteen seventy six was one of the hottest summers

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Speaker 1: Best summer we've had for years, and every weekend was

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Speaker 2: Sun was still shining at the end of August when

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Speaker 14: I've been a friend the Damion Bush since we're in

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Speaker 2: These words are from the statement Damien's friend Joe McCoy

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Speaker 14: and myself down to the caravan for a ballad session.

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Speaker 14: We arranged to meet at the house.

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Speaker 2: This was what Elizabeth had planned for that Saturday, a

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Speaker 2: Bernie was seventeen and that Saturday lives in her mind still.

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Speaker 1: Lizabeth was getting ready to go. Damien must pick her up.

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Speaker 1: Sometime in the afternoon. My mom and my Auntie Lily

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Speaker 1: I was just relaxing on the bed while it was

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Speaker 1: Damien had eventually come along, pulled up outside the cottage,

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Speaker 1: Beat They beat the car and my mom and aunt

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Speaker 1: Lily waved her off. Have a good time, and little

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Speaker 15: The three of us drove to Sex Hotel and Donnybrook

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Speaker 15: I drank two or three points of Carlin and Elizabeth

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Speaker 2: As Elizabeth, Damien and their gang of friends were getting

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Speaker 2: Evans were also on the move. On their release from prison,

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Speaker 2: they'd spent the last few weeks lying out in Feathered

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Speaker 16: Jeffrey and I left fettered in the car on a

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Speaker 9: We had a meal in the sea.

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Speaker 16: We decided to go to Brisbae, County Wicklow and break

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Speaker 16: Somewhere outside our clow. We went into a pub on

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Speaker 9: We stopped at our pubs on the main road to

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Speaker 10: At night when we got there.

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Speaker 9: I drank two pints of lagger and John had the same.

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Speaker 2: At around the same time, Elizabeth Damien and their friends

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Speaker 2: As some of Elizabeth's friends Annette and Eileen would later

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Speaker 17: We arrived at McDaniels between nine and nine thirty pm.

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Speaker 17: It was dark when we got there. When Liz was

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Speaker 2: Damien described how they all settled into McDaniel's and got drinks.

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Speaker 15: We went up the steps and over to our right

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Speaker 15: The men were standing, as were Elizabeth and Annette. The

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth had only met one of the girls, Joe's new

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Speaker 17: At around nine forty five pm. Damien was talking, laughing

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Speaker 2: Not far up the road from mcdanie Nils, the two men,

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Speaker 9: That when we come out, I don't know what time

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Speaker 2: By this stage, Shaw and Evans were on a mission.

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Speaker 2: Knowing multiple rape charges and other serious offenses were awaiting

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Speaker 2: because what we will tell you about these two men's

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Speaker 2: their intention was to kidnap, rape, and kill at least

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Speaker 9: There must be something wrong with me when we did this.

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Speaker 9: I know it was wrong, but I never thought it

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Speaker 2: Back inside McDaniel's pub, Elizabeth's boyfriend Damien was arguing with

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Speaker 15: To Guardee, I sold the car without telling Joe about it.

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Speaker 15: That night in the Pope. He drew up the subject

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Speaker 17: John and Damien were talking in low tones. Damien said,

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Speaker 17: Liz and I stopped talking when we heard Damian raising

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Speaker 2: No one could have imagined that what happened next would

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Speaker 15: I put my finger on her left cheek and said,

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Speaker 15: do that again, I'll go home. I said to her,

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Speaker 2: Then by this stage, John Shaw and Jeffrey Evans were

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Speaker 1: They were haunting women, that's what they were doing. And

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Speaker 16: We were talking about girls, and Jeffrey said he was

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Speaker 16: going to pick up a bird and have it off

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Speaker 16: with her. He said he wanted a small bird. Jeffrey

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Speaker 16: while looking for a bird. We saw one standing at

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Speaker 2: That young woman had no idea of the fate she

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Speaker 2: had just escaped. Do you never manage to trace or

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Speaker 2: a sliding door moment for Elizabeth.

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Speaker 1: Over one argument that if hadn't it happened, life would

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Speaker 2: This argument would change all of these friends' lives in

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Speaker 1: Which said, and that's it, you're ruining the evening. I'm gone.

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Speaker 15: She walked off in the direction of the door. I

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Speaker 17: It was around ten thirty pm when Elizabeth Plunkett walked away.

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Speaker 17: I think she was more embarrassed than Anathon because Damien

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Speaker 2: Her With that. Elizabeth Plunkett walked out alone into the

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Speaker 2: dark night in British Bay. If you were in British

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Speaker 2: Bay on the twenty eighth of August nineteen seventy six

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Speaker 2: and have any further information on Elizabeth Plunkett, please contact

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Speaker 2: us in confidence at Documentaries at Ortie dot I e

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Speaker 2: join us in our next episode as just moments later,

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Speaker 2: that Saturday night begins to turn into a devastating nightmare

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Speaker 2: for Elizabeth Plunkett and everyone who loved her.

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Speaker 9: We stopped and picked this girl up. She said, are

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Speaker 9: you going to Dublin? And I said, we aren't going

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Speaker 9: to Dublin, but we should still give it a lift.

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Speaker 9: She got into it from the passenger.

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Speaker 2: See Stolen's Sister is narrated by Me ros Purcell. The

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Speaker 2: music is by Oscar winning composer Stephen Warbeck and performed

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Speaker 2: by the Orti Concert Orchestra. Readings in this episode where

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Speaker 2: by Patrick Dunn, Kathy Hayes, Kenny Mcgilliforegg, Jade Hill, Jessica

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Speaker 4: Production assistance is by me Seana McGreevy, and.

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Speaker 1: The series is written and produced by me Nicoline Greer.

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Speaker 2: The executive producer is Lim O'Brien. If you've been affected

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