1 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: New pastors to Grays in twenty twenty four. Welcome to 2 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: Between the Horns, presented by your Southern California Toyota Dealers. 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: Sitting alongside my good friends Maurice Jones Drew JV. Long, 4 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: I'm care with Irwin and Between the Horns means it's 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: the start of season. We're here at training camp and guys, 6 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: how's your summer been? 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: More importantly, I had a good summer. I had a 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: fun one. 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 3: I ran with the bulls, swam and yeah, the real 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 3: bulls swim, and the Mediterranean to cleanse myself. 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 4: I thought there was gonna be a whole new version 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 4: radio in twenty twenty four. 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, cause you had me worried, JB. You know I 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: still got it, not as much as I thought I did. 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 3: You know, as I've gotten older, the jump cut and 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 3: the hurdle is not as crisp as it used to be. 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: Right. 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 3: I used to be able to clear like three or 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: four feet. I cleared like a foot, and then I 20 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 3: tried to jump cut and the jump cut wasn't as far. Stumbled. 21 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: My daughter was there to save me. Though I didn't 22 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: get Gord or anything. 23 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: I did. 24 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 4: I had a man's game in Pamplona. 25 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: It is, you know what, I still feel young. I 26 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: still in my mind I'm still young. 27 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: So you know I won't I won't say I'm eighteen, 28 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: but I'm more like, you know, twenty eight. 29 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: I'm just learning what that forty time looked like. We 30 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: got a bull behind you. Imagine it's going a lot quicker. 31 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: I don't even think I ran forty because almost pulled 32 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,279 Speaker 3: up to I didn't put that part in there, tightened 33 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 3: up at the end. You know, when you're running for 34 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 3: your life and there's everyone around you, you start to 35 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: overstride a little bit. 36 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 2: Hammy almost came out. But it's all right. We made 37 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: it through. 38 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 4: Not on the pup list, No, I'm here. 39 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: I've made it. 40 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 5: What about you, JV. Best part of your summer? 41 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 4: The golf game is in as good as shape as 42 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 4: it's ever been played. A lot of nice tennis with 43 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 4: my wife and kids are all happy and healthy. Thank goodness. 44 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 4: I love that part of the year. Vacation's important. Family 45 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: is important. But I woke up today ten out of 46 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 4: ten on about you. This is professionally as good as 47 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: it gets for me. From now until January, hopefully February, 48 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 4: knowing that I'm going to be talking to you and 49 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 4: MJD and DeMarco and Stu and Ricky day in and 50 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 4: day out about these players and coaches. There's nothing I 51 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 4: love more than being a part of the Rams and 52 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 4: break it all down, including here on between the horns. 53 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: So I'm great, Well, you like the schedule lease in 54 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: the off season, this might be my favorite day. 55 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 5: That's wild. 56 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: You think about where we were at last year. We 57 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: were making jokes that we would need name tax. However, 58 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: some of those names now could have placards, they could 59 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: be engraved because they have done a phenomenal job in 60 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three season. So I have to say, 61 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: what are your feelings coming into this camp because it 62 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: is starkly different than having to deal with the forty 63 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: new faces we did a year ago. 64 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: I think you're dealing with expectation. Now. 65 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 3: Last year there was no expectation. I remember coming last 66 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: year's like, what is it gonna look like? Aaron Donald's 67 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: on defense? Offense has to carry all the and then 68 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: they got hot late in the year. They stumbled early on, 69 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: got hot and then you know, you made the playoffs. 70 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: Now people are picking the Rams to win the NFC West. 71 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: People are picking the Rams to go to the playoff. Whoo, 72 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 3: well least second you are. Who Yeah, but other people 73 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 3: are saying second in the playoffs. 74 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. 75 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine. 76 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 4: Hey he's somebody give him a break, now, I am, 77 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 4: but look at his shirt. 78 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: That's wrong with my shirt? 79 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 4: Who's not wearing Rams colors? Saying that? 80 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 2: I seeing a lot of people deep down in side 81 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: know what it could be. 82 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 4: I don't totally disagree with what you're saying, but I 83 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 4: would rephrase it as the Rams this year are respected, 84 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 4: not expected, right, Like, I don't think anyone's gonna fade 85 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 4: a Sean McVay Matthew Stafford team again. They made the 86 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 4: mistake last year and it backfired on them. But I 87 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: don't see many people picking them to go to the 88 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: super Bowl or or top of the forty nine ers 89 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 4: yet this year. 90 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: You know, it's so funny you say that, because last 91 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: year a lot of people they they said that if 92 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: the Rams beat Detroit that they were gonna go. 93 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: To the super Bowl and make that run. 94 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: We felt you said that too, Yeah, but a lot 95 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: of people felt that though like a lot of people 96 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: in the national media and around the league felt like 97 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: if the Rams were able to get past Detroit, they 98 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: would have a chance to make a run on it. 99 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: To me, what's the only difference is no ada. I 100 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: know we're gonna get to that, but you have you 101 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: still have so many those same pieces that were making 102 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: big time plays in that game. Your quarterback is back, 103 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: you have a great running game. You added to your 104 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: offensive line, you added to your defensive line, your defense 105 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: as a whole. I think the Rams, I mean there 106 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: is expectation and there as there should be. I think 107 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: everyone you should expect to go out there and perform 108 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: well at a high level, and may take the defense 109 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 3: a little bit longer to catch up because so much 110 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: is missing, from Raheem Morris to a new DC and 111 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: new pieces and new coaches all over the place. But 112 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you still have the 113 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: Big three, and the Big three now instead of ad 114 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: is gonna be pooking' coul and Cooper Cup and Matthew Stafford. 115 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: Do you have to contind with that? 116 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: I will say that I feel as good as I 117 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 4: possibly could about the Los Angeles Rams, not seeing the 118 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 4: best Ram that I've ever witnessed on the field. Right, 119 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 4: And I think that's pretty much what a lot of 120 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: pundits are saying. Is all due respect to what McVeigh 121 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 4: and the Rams did last year, but how can we 122 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 4: presume that you're going to get better without the goat? 123 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 4: And I think, once again here in twenty four, the 124 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 4: Rams are going to have to be better than the 125 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 4: sum of their parks, and there's nothing wrong with that. 126 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 4: I think they do that better than any professional franchise 127 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 4: around the globe. So I'm excited for them to do that, 128 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 4: even if you're spending the summer like I do, looking 129 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 4: at like position ranking on ESPN dot com and other 130 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 4: than Stafford, maybe getting a nod, you know, as a 131 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 4: top five quarterback the way he played last year. Not 132 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 4: many other individuals have that household name recognition. 133 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: Yet Pooka has a household name. 134 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 4: All right, yeah he does, now you know what I mean? 135 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: Though? 136 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 4: Right like any is anyone saying Pooka is a top 137 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 4: five receiver in the. 138 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: No, No, No, I think I do believe this. 139 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 3: I believe from the obviously we have the inside in 140 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 3: but we're here, we see and we were in OTA's. 141 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: OTA's really like put. 142 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 3: That spark back in me because I saw Cooper Cup 143 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: competing with Pooka Nakua NonStop. 144 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: Looks healthy, looks great. 145 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: So they're not I'm not gonna go out and tell 146 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 3: everybody that, but I'm just saying, like, to me, it's like, oh, oh. 147 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 4: You know what I thought this week is when you 148 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 4: and I were watching in the spring OTAs this young 149 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 4: defense still has a lot to prove. And there were 150 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 4: moments up at KLU one thousand Oaks where the defense 151 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 4: was treating the spring as if it was their Super Bowl. 152 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 153 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 4: And on the other side of the football, there were 154 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 4: a lot of offensive vets being like, hey, chill, some 155 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 4: of us have won a Super Bowl. Put your pads on. 156 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 4: We'll see you in August. Right, And that's where we 157 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 4: are now. I think there is going to be some 158 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 4: of that carry through where there's like competitive intensity and 159 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 4: things to be resolved within this ninety man. 160 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: Roster, well before we get into the defense and a 161 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: couple position groups. We also had some exciting news as 162 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: of yesterday, we may not have ninety nine, but we 163 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,679 Speaker 1: do have QB number one. There was some fun stuff 164 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: happening here at LMU and a little bit of a 165 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: change up with a contract adjustment for Matthew Stafford. Let's 166 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: check out what head coach Sean mcfaith had to say 167 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: about the new contract. 168 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 6: I was grateful that we were able to get the solution, 169 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 6: and I was also grateful for a lot of the 170 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 6: dialogue that was able to exist. Matthew and I have 171 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 6: a relationship that I really value where we can have 172 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 6: honest feedback, and there was some real conversations that existed 173 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 6: that I think were really healthy for us to be 174 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 6: able to move forward in the right direction. And he 175 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 6: was great, his group was great, and that was the goal. 176 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 6: But I am relieved that it got done and I 177 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 6: think in the manner at which it occurred was also 178 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 6: healthy for everybody involved. And ultimately I'm excited for this team. 179 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 5: Guys. Your thoughts. 180 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: Sean McVay yesterday, addressing media and the new contract for 181 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. 182 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 5: JV's already smiling. 183 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 4: Well, that's because MJD is like my Rosetta Stone when 184 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: it comes to the contract. 185 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: Get it done. I love it. Get it done right. 186 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: You don't want to come into this season with you see, 187 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: like the New York Jets, they have a Hanson Reddick. 188 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: Then that's a whole big. 189 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: Distraction and all these it's just get here, get everybody set, 190 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: make everyone happy. For the most part, I know Matthew's 191 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: every probably wants more security, but he got what he 192 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: needed to be able to play this year. You play 193 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: well this year, we'll look forward in another part. But 194 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: you have your team together, and that's the most important 195 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: part of training camp. I remember when I held out 196 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: in twenty twelve. It wasn't necessarily the business side that suffered, 197 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: because you know, the business side is going to take 198 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: care of itself. It was being with my teammates and 199 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: getting that camaraderie. So I had to wait. I didn't 200 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: really start running until week four because I had to 201 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: take a whole month to get acclimated to my offensive 202 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: line seeing how fast the defense was. Getting my eyes right. 203 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: To get everybody in training camp and get those steps 204 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: going is the most important thing. And then to get 205 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: your leader here, right, the guy that you know, as 206 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: we saw last year, take that that step that you 207 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: needed to in the second half of the season to 208 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: get him here, to get that fresh starter is gonna 209 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 3: be good. 210 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 4: Kevin and I can usually pick a side on these 211 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 4: types of conversations, right. You could see one case one 212 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 4: leverage over another. This is one of the rare ones 213 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 4: where I think both sides were right. Both sides had 214 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 4: a lot of leverage, and I'm glad that they didn't 215 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 4: necessarily try and weaponize them against each other. And most importantly, 216 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 4: things are going to be right moving forward. But if 217 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 4: I'm sitting across the table from Matthew Stafford and he's saying, 218 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 4: you know, you look at the ten, eleven, twelve, maybe 219 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 4: soon to be thirteen guys who are gonna make more 220 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 4: than I am this year at my position, you know, 221 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 4: and I know that we can go through them and 222 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 4: say he's not better than I am. He's not wrong, 223 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 4: but some of them are significantly younger than he is. 224 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 4: Let's face it, there have been moments in each of 225 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 4: the last two seasons New Orleans and two twenty two, 226 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 4: Dallas in twenty three where we wondered fairly whether Matthew 227 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 4: Stafford was going to play another down in the National 228 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 4: Football League. Right So, if the goal is to extend 229 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 4: his prime and his legacy, and it is we all 230 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 4: agree that it is, that is this moment in Ram's 231 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 4: history right now, then I think collectively they needed to 232 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 4: put the right plan together and they built around a 233 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 4: contract that was only two years old to begin with 234 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 4: to make sure that he has that opportunity from a 235 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 4: competitive roster building standpoint. And so if they now see 236 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 4: eye to eye on that and he feels well right 237 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 4: about the compensation that he's getting this year and beyond, 238 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 4: then great, let's get to it well. 239 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: And I think it's phenomenal too, because I think back 240 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: to the presser as of yesterday and some of the 241 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: elements that kept coming up from Sean mcvays. He talked 242 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: about not only gratitude, but also his relationship with Stafford, 243 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: talked about sitting down, looking him eye to eye and 244 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: having that conversation and something else he's said, not just 245 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: in this interview but in another as well. He said, 246 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: communicate to connect and listen to understand. And I think 247 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: that relationship with Sean and of course Matthew is one 248 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 1: of the biggest difference makers, and you're going to see 249 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: it come to life that much more in twenty twenty four. 250 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: I completely agree, and I'm glad that this is not 251 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 4: going to drill the storyline that I was banking on, 252 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 4: which is Stafford and Cup going through an off season 253 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 4: program together. Because if you look at the results they've 254 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 4: had since they got together in twenty twenty one, both healthy, 255 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 4: pouring into their offseason in that first year together, and 256 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 4: the results were a triple crown, a World championship, and 257 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 4: a Super Bowl MVP in twenty two. We know that 258 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 4: this time year Stafford was waving towels and on a 259 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 4: pitch count, not throwing footballs. And while you know he 260 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 4: may have been able to feed Cooper cupsatysically at the 261 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 4: front end of that year, it didn't work out well. 262 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 4: Not for the Rams, not for Cooper Cup, not for 263 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford. Last year it was Cup's turn to be limited. 264 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 4: And even though Matthew and the offense thrived on the 265 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 4: whole in twenty twenty three, Cooper wasn't right. And we 266 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: also those moments of disconnect right where it's like, hey, 267 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 4: this beautiful partnership is not in lockstep like they usually are. 268 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 4: All that to say, this time, right now, this offseason, 269 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 4: this summer, they are as close to and maybe even 270 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 4: ahead of where they were in twenty twenty one, and 271 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: I would like to believe I'm not predicting a triple 272 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 4: crown season, that those results are gonna be more like 273 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 4: what we see from nine to nine. 274 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely believe last year you saw like the outs, 275 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 3: it was just like it was like it just wasn't there, 276 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 3: It wasn't connected. And that's why I was talking about 277 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 3: making sure everybody's in camp, because you get that right now. 278 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: By the time September October comes, you get in November, 279 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: when football starts or the weather starts to change, you 280 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: know these guys will be ready and they will be 281 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,239 Speaker 3: in sync. So it's like I said, it's so important 282 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 3: from a team's standpoint, especially in the front office, to 283 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 3: try to make sure everyone's here so you can get ready. 284 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: If your goals are winning a championship, to be the 285 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: Super Bowl champion, everyone has to be in camp together, 286 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: going through the grind, doing all the little stuff that 287 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: needs to be And I love the fact that they're 288 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: in the dorms right, that you're. 289 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: Not gonna go home and you're in the dorms with 290 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: your buddy. 291 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: I don't know who roommates with who, right, but you're 292 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 3: gonna be with that person for a long time and 293 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 3: that relationship is gonna continue to grow. 294 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: Now it's been one hundred and ninety two days since 295 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: we were at Ford Field, and we'll get a chance 296 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: to see the Detroit Lions really early this year. I'm curious, 297 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: how's your perception of the Los Angeles Rams shifted and 298 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: changed considering many camp OTAs and of course the draft. 299 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 5: Now coming into training camp. 300 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: I just felt like the Rams decided to get more physical. 301 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And that to me is you know, I 302 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: mean JB. When we first started calling the games, when 303 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 3: Sean got here was it was outside zone morphiness, blocking, 304 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 3: kind of getting on edges. Now it's just like, look, 305 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 3: we got big linemen, we have big men up front. 306 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: We're gonna run down here, We're gonna play action pass, 307 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 3: We're gonna try to beat you up. And guess what, 308 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 3: that's what Detroit wants to be too. So it kind 309 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: of fits the mold of both. I thought the schedule 310 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: makers made it and made a great decision having them 311 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: on that Sunday night football because again Stafford gets to 312 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 3: go back to Detroit, right, a little revenge game you 313 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 3: lost the last time you were up there. 314 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 2: You had eminem and all that stuff. 315 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 3: But the way the Rams switched their ideenta and we 316 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: talked about this into like a two year span of 317 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: getting bigger stronger downhill run game, drafting quorum out of 318 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 3: Michigan to really fit what they want. 319 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, I'm excited. 320 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 4: You're thinking a lot of my wavelength because when I 321 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 4: look at kind of the arc of Sean mcvay's tenure 322 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 4: you mentioned twenty seventeen, and when they find something, they 323 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 4: often double down on it and perfect it. Right, So 324 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 4: seventeen they're like, oh, we got something here, and then 325 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 4: they get Brandon Cook's and they take it to the 326 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 4: end degree and all of a sudden, they're the most 327 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 4: dominant offense eleven personnels. Humming. They get to the Super Bowl, 328 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 4: they do it again with Matthew Stafford when they make 329 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 4: that trade, and twenty twenty one worked out as well 330 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 4: as any of us could have imagined. And I would 331 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 4: argue they did try to double down on that again 332 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty two. Unfortunately they learned some hard lessons 333 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 4: and it backfired. It didn't go the way that they 334 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 4: thought it would. But here they are again, coming off 335 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 4: I think a great year, especially offensively in twenty twenty three, 336 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 4: and what do they do. They double down on it 337 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 4: to perfect it. And I know that they did that, 338 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 4: like you said, because they drafted Blake KRM. Why do 339 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 4: they do that to make sure that just in case 340 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 4: something goes wrong with Kien Williams, they don't have to change. 341 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 4: And I know to your point about physicality too, that 342 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 4: this is not a finished product. It's a work in 343 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 4: progress in terms of what they're going to be and 344 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 4: the scheme that they're going to deploy. But they got 345 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 4: a really good sense. But what they have to fall 346 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 4: back on now I think is the best offensive line 347 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 4: they've had since definitely since Andrew Whitworth retired, maybe going 348 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 4: back to that early seventeen eighteen group. And physicality is 349 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 4: always in vogue. Physicality always plays, and they drafted with 350 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 4: an intentionality for toughness such that if things don't go 351 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 4: perfectly according to plan, they're not backing down from Detroit. 352 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 4: They're not worried about the San Francisco forty nine ers 353 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 4: in either side of the trenches, like they can go 354 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: win with their disposition while they figure out what the 355 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 4: next iteration of their scheme is going to be. 356 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: It's going to be terrifying. I think of Avi lad 357 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: now moving to the center, I mean those three interior 358 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: It's going to be a terrifying front tact. 359 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 5: To go up against there's no doubt about it. 360 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: But guys, we gotta circle back missing ninety nine and 361 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: not just a ninety nine, the ninety nine from camp. 362 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: The biggest question this offseason has been how do you 363 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: fill the void? And there's no one for one, we 364 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: already know that. Where do you even begin? 365 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: Well, you begin with saying thank you and having gratitude 366 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: for what he was able to do for this franchise. 367 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 3: That's that's where it starts. I was shocked. I text 368 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 3: JB when I saw it come across the grounds like, 369 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 3: jam you kidd me. He was playing phenomenal. It was 370 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 3: like he was it was it was, it was clicking, 371 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: and it was like you never leave when everything is 372 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: going well, you. 373 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 4: Study no turning down this much money. I did say 374 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 4: that money is walking away from Yeah. 375 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to count his pockets, but you're right. 376 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 2: I did say that. 377 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 3: But then like the football guy, and he was like, dude, 378 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: you were you found a running mate that takes double 379 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: teams away. Now you're getting singled up against the giants 380 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: are starting to and you can keep going. 381 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 4: But now that you've heard him explain himself though, doesn't 382 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 4: it make oh, I. 383 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: Understood, understood it. I understood at that point. 384 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, the fan of me was like, dude, no, 385 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: But then the player of me is like, look, I 386 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: get it right. You You've done it. You've accomplished everything 387 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: you wanted to accomplish. You know, you've made a lot 388 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: of money, You've done all the things you wanted to do. 389 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 3: You want to go out when you want to go out, 390 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 3: and I and I respect that, and so so now 391 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: it's it's it comes to you just I think DeMarco 392 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: said the best you just throw bodies and throw bodies 393 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: at it, right. But I think the Rams hit on it. Well, 394 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 3: I don't think. I know they hit on their first 395 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 3: two picks. And it's gonna be excited to see those 396 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: two guys play together the way they did at Florida State, 397 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: the way they dominated, the way they play off each other. 398 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: That's gonna be exciting to see you watch. It's gonna 399 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: be excited to see the other young guys from last 400 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: year step up. It's gonna be excited to see some 401 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 3: of the new guys that have come in from other 402 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: teams to kind of mold and see how that fits. 403 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 3: But I think it's gonna take some time because again 404 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: you're you're missing a guy that had to get triple 405 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: teamed yeah by a lot of people, right, and so 406 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 3: it's gonna take a little bit of time. But as 407 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: they get going, I think they'll be fine. 408 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 4: At that time, is what this camp is for. I mean, 409 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 4: let me start on offense and answer a question about 410 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 4: Aaron Donald by saying, if I had to draw up 411 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 4: the two deep right now, like, I think I could 412 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 4: probably pick twenty four out of the twenty five offensive 413 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 4: Rams that are going to be there on the initial 414 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 4: fifty three man roster, right Like, there's that much continuity, 415 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 4: and I think certainty on defense, like nine or ten 416 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 4: roster spots and a whole bunch of within that who 417 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 4: gets a helmet on game day defense, Which is to 418 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 4: say that first let's acknowledge that as much as we 419 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 4: like some of the defensive moments the Rams had in 420 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, statistically it was not a good defense. Statistically, 421 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 4: It's a defense that can get much better here in 422 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, which is a paradox because you're losing 423 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 4: the best defensive player maybe in the game's history. They're 424 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 4: not going to get better at defensive tackle, but they 425 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 4: can get better just about everywhere else, and they can 426 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 4: get better at non offensive touchdowns and takeaways and pressure, 427 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 4: and they can get it in different ways. They're going 428 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 4: to have to because I think it's a reasonable hope 429 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 4: and expectation that under Chris Shul's Chris Shula's leadership, bigger pardon, 430 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 4: they can make strides on defense. And with this offense, 431 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 4: I don't know that you're asking much more of this 432 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 4: defense than like three four stops a game and a 433 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 4: takeaway like that'll play on a lot of weeks. If 434 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 4: this offense is doing what we think they're capable of doing. 435 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 3: I think the most important thing is going to be 436 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 3: stopping the run. Last year was a little leaky at times, 437 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 3: and then when we got to Detroit, Detroit just ran 438 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: the ball. 439 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: That's what they want to do. They want to be physical. 440 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 3: So you get a chance really show have you fixed 441 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: some of the issues that you had last year with 442 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 3: different pieces this year. And it's always because that's always poetic, 443 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: like how you finish is how you start mostly the 444 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 3: league is so like how you come in as how 445 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 3: you leave most of the time, but how you finished 446 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 3: last season normally is how you're gonna start this season. 447 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 3: So you're gonna get a chance to kind of rectify 448 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 3: some of those issues you had defensively starting with Detroit 449 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: and what they have going on. 450 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I didn't expect to be able 451 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 4: to say in late July of twenty twenty four though, 452 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 4: after Aaron retired, is that the Rams will be okay 453 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 4: in terms of their toughness and disposition to go back 454 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 4: to your previous point. Like I always felt like on 455 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 4: game day when Aaron was there, you knew what your 456 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 4: worst case scenario was, right, and if there needed to 457 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 4: be an enforcer for whatever was going on, you knew 458 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 4: who to turn to. And I think based on who 459 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 4: they've acquired and who they've drafted, they've done really well 460 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 4: to kind of replace some intestinal fortitude that was elite, right. 461 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: And I think it's huge the fact that you get 462 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: brought Byron Young as well as Kobe Turner with at 463 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: least a year alongside Aaron Donald, because to your point, 464 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: it establishes that toughness and it propels it into this season. Guys, 465 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about a little inspiration because it's gonna be 466 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: defense by committee, right, You got Byron Young, you got 467 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: Kobe Turner, you got some great names. You mentioned Jared Verse, 468 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: Braden Fist. Coming out of the draft. I think you 469 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: don't have to look that far in terms of defense 470 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: by committee than our own history books. I think of 471 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: the fearsome for somebody. I know, we're going way back 472 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: to the nineteen sixties, but come on now, Deacon Jones 473 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: practically invented this act. He was so dangerous, and I 474 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: think that unit is something that we can even look 475 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: back to. I also like what Sean McVay had to 476 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: say about letting this team kind of build their own 477 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: identify identity, especially the defensive side, saying no one's gonna 478 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: fill Aaron shoes, but he did mention that it has 479 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: to be organic, and I think that's something that you're 480 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: gonna find is kind of that journey here at training 481 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: camp for that crew. 482 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 5: How does that. 483 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: Defensive unit build their own identity and let it come 484 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: together on its own. 485 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 3: It reminds me of OTAs when Jared Verse was getting 486 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 3: into it with all the tight ends and the tackles, right, 487 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 3: and then we're talking about yeah, yeah, he was. He 488 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 3: was barking, and he was talking trash and he was, 489 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 3: and normally Sean's like, hey, stop right, like the old 490 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 3: Sean mcvagoud be like, hey, we don't need all that 491 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 3: now he kind of the step to the side, like, hey, 492 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: let you guys figure it out, because again, you got 493 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: to figure out if these young guys a gonna be 494 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 3: able to go out there and make some place. 495 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 4: When you're telling me there's not a tight end or 496 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 4: two or a tackler too. Who's waiting for Jarry? 497 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: Oh, no question? 498 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh moment here, okay, jb Okay, he's gonna 499 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 3: do an inside move and he's not gonna see a 500 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 3: guard or Steve Obola come and just clean him up 501 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: and then and then you know, it may get a 502 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,959 Speaker 3: little handsy, but it's gonna be their way. 503 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 4: Let me introduce you to Jonah Jackson. He's new here, 504 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 4: so are you. 505 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: We didn't see him, so you're gonna see him now. 506 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 5: All right, you guys ready for a little bit more fun. 507 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 2: Yes, we got a few. 508 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: More minutes left. I put this on our rundown and 509 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: I put the no Name game. Our lovely producer Jory said, 510 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: well maybe it should be called fill in the blank. 511 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: We're just gonna go with it's a working title. 512 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 5: At this point. 513 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: This is a facilitator of conversation for us. Instead of 514 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: running through from top to bottom each of our position groups, 515 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a prompt. You give me 516 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: the position group or a name. It could be a 517 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: singular athlete to fill the void you've always. 518 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 4: Wanted to be a game show host. 519 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 5: I mean, I do like my games. 520 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 2: I'm nervous now. 521 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 5: So there's only one twist. 522 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: You can't use the same position group or the same 523 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: name twice through these prompts. So if you use offensive 524 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: line to start the first they're off the table just 525 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: for you. 526 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, So JB you could use them later on. 527 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 4: Okay, so I can agree with him or use the 528 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 4: same answer. Okay, but you have to keep trying. But 529 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 4: just because he says offensive line, I can use it 530 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 4: later in the show. Exactly right. 531 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 2: You. 532 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: Your answers are singular, and there's no real winner to 533 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: this game unless we vote at the end. 534 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 4: Oh, there's gonna be a winner. 535 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 5: We can leave it up to the comment section too. 536 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: You can vote on their answers. I got a couple. 537 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: You also have to describe why you know, give me, 538 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: give me a little sustenance. All right, Okay, do we 539 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: understand the game? Yep, not really, but go ahead, Well 540 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: let's see if we can figure it out. Your first prompt, 541 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: you're most excited to. 542 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: Watch I go first? 543 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 3: Ye, Steve Avola singular not the olpins blind him particular 544 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 3: at the center position, coming from guard moving to the center. 545 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: Have to make the calls. It's going to be very 546 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 3: important on this offense. It's gonna be a lot of 547 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 3: pressure on this offense to go out and score points. 548 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 3: And it all starts with the center. And JB said 549 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 3: this last year that they drafted him to play guard 550 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 3: but possibly moved to center, and to see him be 551 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 3: able to take on what he learned last year, to 552 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 3: be able to point to where the running game is 553 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 3: going to be, to point to the protections and be 554 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 3: able to slide. Even though Matthew Stafford's going to be 555 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 3: back there to help, he's gonna have to have that 556 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 3: initial understanding of the defense what's going on. And then 557 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 3: absously again to sit down and talk to him. He's 558 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 3: an awesome dude, he's so, but he doesn't play like that. 559 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 3: He's like a great guy, but then. 560 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: On the field he's like he flipps the switch. Yeah, yeah, 561 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: he flips it. 562 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 3: So it's gonna be exciting to see how his mind 563 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 3: works and if he's on the same page with Matthew Stafford. 564 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 4: I am going to say, I am most excited to 565 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 4: see this secondary come together and specifically Trey White. Shout 566 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 4: out to Tyler Higbee. I hope that recovery is on 567 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,719 Speaker 4: track and can't wait to see you back out here 568 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 4: sooner rather than later. But the fact that Tyler is 569 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 4: the only one, according to Sean McVay, who's going to 570 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 4: start this camp on the pup list, I think is 571 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 4: a the encouraging sign for White, specifically who we did 572 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 4: not get to see go in the spring, and if 573 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 4: he is even a high percentage of what he has 574 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 4: been at times in his NFL career, I think that 575 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 4: raises the ceiling on this second there, which right now 576 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 4: has a lot to sort through between now and when 577 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 4: they kick off in Detroit. 578 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: Guys, I want in on the mix too. I'm gonna 579 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: give you my own answers, So I'm most excited to watch. 580 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, now, you get to play too. 581 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: I want to put my name in the heat. Hey, 582 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: I want to be a winner, So let's see what 583 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: we can do here. Just because it's an easy answer 584 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that it's wrong. And I'm gonna go with 585 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: Jared Verse only because this week, as I'm running on 586 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: the treadmill and pulling up highlights, and I am getting 587 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: stoked because it is so fun to watch his speed 588 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: off the edge. I was also really impressed with his ability. 589 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: It felt like every sack he had in twenty twenty 590 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: three it was almost on a second effort play where 591 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: he'd pushed already past the quarterback and he's wrapping back 592 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: around to find him. I also thought he was really 593 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: good coming in with an interior move, and he was 594 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: really fast the sidelines chasing down running backs. I thought 595 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: the lateral motion was pretty impressive. So I am looking 596 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: for Jared Vers. 597 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 5: For this year. 598 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 4: Running with the bulls, running on a treadmill, yeah, walking. 599 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: Swinging clubs in the golf cart, all the good stuff 600 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: I did. 601 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 5: Text of yesterday, I was like, hey, what do you 602 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 5: think about that? 603 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: No? 604 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,719 Speaker 4: No, no, don't come on now, don't put me out 605 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:15,239 Speaker 4: there like that. 606 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: I was working right right, look at this, I'm gonna 607 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: get them in trouble now. 608 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 4: I was folding Lonnie. What are you talking about. 609 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Okay, your next prop guys, let's go 610 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: with will be the most impactful? 611 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 4: Can I go? Yeah? Joshua Cardy, no question. You don't 612 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 4: need to hear why. Yeah, that's easy, Jabe. 613 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: You know I picked him in Fantasy right. 614 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 4: Did you? 615 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah? 616 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 4: Why are you drafting in July? 617 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 3: Because I'm in an eighteen team league of a family league. 618 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: It's ridiculous, but we drafted. I was like, oh, yes, 619 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 3: I got the insight, scoop, uh for me? Most impactful, 620 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the I truly believe. I think 621 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: it's Karen Williams. I think he has to do what 622 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 3: he did last year plus some. You know, at the 623 00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 3: end of the year he was able to rust for 624 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: a thousand yard cards, I want to say, after we 625 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 3: missed the five games, and so you're expecting that plus 626 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 3: a little bit more. His running game is what really 627 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 3: took this team to the next level. His ability to 628 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: be able to manipulate the linebackers, manipulate the defensive line, 629 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 3: and have something that Sean McVay and Matthews African lean on. 630 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: We always talk about the quarterback position. It's hard to 631 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 3: be on every play where I have to read the 632 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 3: defense and do all this Matthews African take. He could 633 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: take plays off now, turn around, hand the ball off, 634 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: take a deep breath, maybe two or three times, maybe 635 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 3: like Baltimore running nine times in a row or maybe 636 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 3: fifteen times to get a score. But again, run that 637 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,239 Speaker 3: ball to get that offensive line going forward to set 638 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 3: up what you wonder. 639 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 4: You're still salty about how that rens Oh my goodness. 640 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 4: You watch the running backs in the past game this 641 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 4: year too. I think between Kyron and Blake, Yeah, they 642 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 4: could really you know, set a new high water mark 643 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 4: for how they catch passes and get yards after catch. 644 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: All right, I'm going offensive line will be the most 645 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: impactful because you guys are talking about the running game 646 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: well already, from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three, 647 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: we improved in that regard in total rushing from twenty 648 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: seven to number eleven. I think that's only going to 649 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: increase this year. A big part is obvious reasons. You 650 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: look through and we talked about that that offensive front. 651 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: So that's where I'm going. 652 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 4: She's got the first. 653 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 5: I have a little bit of a leg up because 654 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 5: I invented the game. Yes, and questions. It's fine, Uh 655 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 5: had the best off season? Do this one real quick? 656 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 4: What you got who had the best offseason? 657 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? Take it? 658 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 5: Whichever was social media? 659 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: Cooper Cup not the best off season. He's jacked, jacked up. 660 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: I've seen him lifting the pooka with them. 661 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 4: I thought you meant like podcast copy too. 662 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: But he was even working out social media. I G 663 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 3: you got the guns. He's ready to go. 664 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 4: I mean I was taking Ernest Jones, played a lot 665 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 4: of golf, got a clothing line. 666 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm going Puka Nakula, Jordan Brand, he was in Indy racing. 667 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 5: Here's all sorts of stufft. 668 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: This was supposed to be like football related, not like overall. 669 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 5: We're making up the rules this week. 670 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: Go uh, let's go with I'm gonna skip ahead a 671 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: little bit because we're running short of time. I don't 672 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: know why the biggest surprise for this coming. Who's going 673 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: to be the biggest surprise or position group that's gonna 674 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: be the bigger surprise? 675 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 4: Kobe Parkinson, Oh my goodness. Okay, did I steal or 676 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 4: you stole it? But it's okay, go ahead and all agree, 677 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 4: Go ahead, you explain the why? Well, I think red 678 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 4: zone I think red zone. We talked about run blocking 679 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 4: and he was grated, and you said PFF was one 680 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 4: of the top tight ends. I don't see him as that. 681 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: I see him as a red zone target, be able 682 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 3: to throw a fade to right, to be able to 683 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 3: stretch the defense vertically in the red zone to get 684 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 3: that mismatch, something that the Rams Tyler Higbee was that 685 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 3: early in his career. 686 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 2: Can run the option routes. Kobe Parkson can do that 687 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 2: as well. 688 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 3: But to have a big body where you just throw 689 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 3: the ball up an easy fade and you'd have that 690 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: be an eighty to twenty ball, to me make sure 691 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 3: your offense that much more dangerous. 692 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 4: I put putting six to seven in your huddle in 693 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 4: that tight red area and having DeMarcus Robinson, who I 694 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 4: thought unlocked a lot of that red zone offense once 695 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 4: he came into the mix deepend last season. I think 696 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 4: that has the potential to be really explosive to help 697 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 4: them finish drives because they were a lead in that 698 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 4: way last year. Yes, red zone conversion. 699 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: So I'm forever the option. I'm gonna go bigger surprise 700 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: for this upcoming year is gonna be special teams because 701 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: I think the new kickoff is gonna give us be 702 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: a little bit of a different look and maybe a 703 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: leg up. We saw two to out well having conversation, 704 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna be fielding kicks. I also think there's gonna 705 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: be a ton of creativity. And I don't know, JB, 706 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: what do you learn about the new kickoff? Your son 707 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: was teaching you. 708 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 4: Somebody's got to. 709 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 3: I don't even know what you want to describe that 710 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 3: on I was, I was, I was actually watching your 711 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 3: I E. 712 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: And I saw it. It started to make a little sense. 713 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 4: Would you want would you want to roll? Would you 714 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: want to be one of the two deep men? If 715 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 4: you go back to your playing days under these. 716 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, give me the guys that 717 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 3: run down fifty yards because they're exhausted by the time 718 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 3: they get down there. 719 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: I hate when they're right there close. They're fresh. 720 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 4: But in terms of like you're running back instincts, it's 721 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 4: like a scrimmage play, right. It's it's almost like playing 722 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 4: against cover zero or something where if you break through, 723 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 4: you might house one. 724 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 3: No it is, but I always I just think if 725 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 3: a guy is running for like the thirty yard line 726 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 3: and I catch it, on the in the end zone 727 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: or whatever it may be. Like, he's run sixty yards 728 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 3: by the time he gets me, he's a little bit exhausted. 729 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 3: He has to get off a block. I have a 730 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 3: better chance than the guy being a thirty yard line. 731 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 3: But again, players safety, I think it'll work out. They'll 732 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 3: figure out a way to discore touchdowns. 733 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: I know it's definitely gonna look different on TV. I 734 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: can't wait to see how and what creative ways we 735 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: come up to find some extra yardage. I'm gonna go 736 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: with making good stride is your next topic? Which group 737 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: is gonna be making good strides into this next year? 738 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 3: I'll go with the secondary. I completely believe John Johnson 739 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 3: the third is the key. Bringing him back is the key. 740 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 3: Last when they brought him back, that secondary jailed a 741 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 3: little bit more. He's been in this system. He understands 742 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: the way I think Sean said at best like he 743 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 3: knows who we are and what we want and what 744 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: we expect. So bringing him in that secondary is gonna 745 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 3: have huge strides. You've added some you know, JB talked 746 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: about Trey White coming in as well, but I think 747 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 3: just that secondary, having Daris Williams back it's just I 748 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 3: just think they're gonna make huge strides. 749 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 5: That's fair. 750 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 4: He was the last player I talked to when we 751 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 4: broke the spring at Ota. So I'll go with Bobby Brown, 752 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 4: who I think it's still just twenty three years of age, 753 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 4: is now in the year four contract opportunity, and he 754 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 4: is unique within his position group. 755 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 5: Like thirty pounds unique. 756 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, he needs to be different, and he is different. 757 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 4: And to your point about stopping early down runs, he's 758 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 4: that guy. 759 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: He's that guy. 760 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the secondary. Look at us team 761 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: and up come on, man, I'm going secondary. I just 762 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: think we have added a lot of great pieces through 763 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: free agency. I think Darius coming back is a big 764 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: deal for us because there's some continuity there which we 765 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: do love. But guys, I think it's time for us 766 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: to wrap up because our guys are. 767 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 4: Already getting you. 768 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 5: Jory first, I'm getting one of these. 769 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm getting the wrap it up signal, and the guys 770 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: are on the field, so. 771 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 5: We will close out between. We've got a lot of. 772 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: Ways we watch right now. Film this fine, get the 773 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 2: people to access Well. 774 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us here On Between the 775 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 1: Horns Presented by your Southern California Toya the dealers. 776 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 5: Don't forget. 777 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: We've got athlete interviews and all sorts of fun insights 778 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: coming to you from training camp. 779 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 5: Thanks for watching. 780 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 4: Karen. By the way, I like you. 781 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: Oh I mean, was it even close? Drop drop drop 782 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 2: drop like like like waist