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Speaker 1: You know, we're always growing and learning as humans, like

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Speaker 1: You just keep evolving and growing and you just got

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Speaker 2: What's going on everyone, Emily Abadi Here, you are listening

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Speaker 2: to another episode of Hurdle, a podcast featuring the mindset, secrets,

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Speaker 2: motivated life and of course, conquer your own hurdles. Today's

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Speaker 2: guest is a powerhouse in the water and a pioneer

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Speaker 2: on the world stage. Joining me is Olympic gold medalist

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Speaker 2: and world champion surfer Caroline Marx, fresh off of the

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Speaker 2: premiere of her new film Nowadays the Red Bull Athlete,

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Speaker 2: joins us to discuss the incredible of a life of

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Speaker 2: competing against and filming with her closest friends and biggest rivals.

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Speaker 3: We dive deep into.

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Speaker 2: The savage mode mindset required to win, the courage it

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Speaker 2: age nineteen to prioritize her mental health and how she

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Speaker 4: You don't need to be.

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Speaker 2: A surfer to truly love this episode. Caroline's journey of

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Speaker 2: self belief and tenacity is sure to inspire you to

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Speaker 2: find your own flow state. Make sure you're following along

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Speaker 2: with Hurdle over on social It's over at Hurdle podcast.

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Speaker 2: You can also check out Iheartwoman's Sports. Over at iHeart

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Speaker 2: Women's Sports and me over at Emily a Body. Listen

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Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And with that,

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Speaker 4: Today.

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Speaker 2: I am sitting down with Caroline Marx. She is an

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Hurdle.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thanks for having me. We're doing great. How

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Speaker 4: I'm feeling vibes are high.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: You're fresh back in California after a really big premiere

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Speaker 4: Talk to me about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was super cool.

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Speaker 1: It's my first time doing a big film like production

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Speaker 2: So you're at such a young, impressionable age to not

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Speaker 1: because of the pandemic.

438
00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,639
Speaker 3: So it all worked out the way it was supposed

439
00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,400
Speaker 3: to do, and I'm just really thankful.

440
00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,640
Speaker 4: You know, so whole journey and that journey, right, But.

441
00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,439
Speaker 1: It's hard to think that way when you're like just

442
00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,520
Speaker 1: missing out on a spot. You're just thinking like, oh

443
00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,879
Speaker 1: my gosh, like it's the end of the world, like whatever.

444
00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:19,919
Speaker 1: But now looking back, I'm like, oh my gosh, Like

445
00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,119
Speaker 1: it just made that moment of winning the gold that

446
00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,200
Speaker 1: much sweeter and it was just incredible, best best time

447
00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,280
Speaker 1: of my life for sure.

448
00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,960
Speaker 2: Of course, she says, that's twenty four years old. You know,

449
00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,080
Speaker 2: far far, so far, so far. You know, so many

450
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,119
Speaker 2: things to double click on. The first thing that I

451
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,880
Speaker 2: want to touch on is you said, I got into

452
00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,679
Speaker 2: the water and I just had so much confidence. And

453
00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,680
Speaker 2: you say that even though you acknowledge that you got

454
00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,440
Speaker 2: to the Olympics and you're like, I have no idea

455
00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,720
Speaker 2: of what we are dealing with here. Where does that

456
00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:54,520
Speaker 2: confidence come from? Where do you garner that and build

457
00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:55,200
Speaker 2: that up?

458
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,800
Speaker 1: I think it was just a lot of really good preparation,

459
00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,080
Speaker 1: like knowing. I think for me, when I know I

460
00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,240
Speaker 1: put like one hundred percent of effort into something, I'm like,

461
00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,119
Speaker 1: whatever the result is, I know, I'm not going like

462
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,760
Speaker 1: to bed at night going I could have done one

463
00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,800
Speaker 1: percent more like that's the worst. I don't ever like,

464
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,000
Speaker 1: looking back on my whole career, I don't ever want

465
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,000
Speaker 1: to feel that way. And I think that just breeds

466
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,399
Speaker 1: confidence for me. And you know, I also had a

467
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,960
Speaker 1: great batch of boards, great equipment. I felt like I

468
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,920
Speaker 1: was in a really good headspace, which is really important,

469
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 1: and I just felt like I was surfing really good.

470
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,480
Speaker 3: And that just gives you confidence right there, and that's.

471
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,760
Speaker 2: Something to be so proud of, right that all knowing

472
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,600
Speaker 2: like I am doing truly the best I can here

473
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,760
Speaker 2: with what I have. But then, as we know, you

474
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,280
Speaker 2: come up just short. I want to hear about what

475
00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,399
Speaker 2: the aftermath looks like of coming up just short.

476
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was tough.

477
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,680
Speaker 1: Like like I said, it was kind of a caerd

478
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,080
Speaker 1: day because like I cam up just short, but I

479
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 1: don't think I really realized, like it didn't really hit

480
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,919
Speaker 1: me till later, Like I came up just short, and

481
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,960
Speaker 1: then like an hour later, my teammates winning a gold metal.

482
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,560
Speaker 1: We're celebrating her kind of like distracted me from what

483
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 1: I was doing. And surfing's an interesting sport too, because

484
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 1: a lot of Olympic sports have, you know, team metals

485
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 1: multiple divisions.

486
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,680
Speaker 3: Surfing's one. It's like very like either win or you don't.

487
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 1: There's like one person that's on top, which makes it

488
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 1: a lot sweeter but also makes it a lot harder.

489
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,640
Speaker 3: There's no second chances, you know. So we celebrated her.

490
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 1: I went home, and I think like a couple weeks

491
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 1: later it really set in for me, just going damn

492
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 1: like and I just kept like and honestly like I

493
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 1: had moments like up until the Paris Olympics and winning

494
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 1: goal that it like really like haunted me in a

495
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 1: way where I was like, oh my gosh, like I

496
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 1: just know what it feels like to get to come

497
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 1: up short. So yeah, but at the end of the day,

498
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 1: you can't dwell on the past too much, like you

499
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 1: got to just like, you know, learn from your mistakes,

500
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 1: move forward, and just get better for it. You know,

501
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 1: otherwise it'll just eat you alive.

502
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 2: You made that decision then after that first games to

503
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 2: take a step back and take a break. Talk to

504
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 2: me about the decision to take a break and how

505
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 2: you knew that that was going.

506
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 4: To be right for you.

507
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 1: I actually didn't really know, Like I mean, I just

508
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: knew I wasn't in a good headspace. I knew that

509
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 1: my priorities were pretty off. Like I know what it's

510
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: like to just like be in a great headspace and

511
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: things are flowing, and I know it won't always feel

512
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,199
Speaker 1: like that, but I just, yeah, I felt off. I

513
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: didn't feel healthy, and I think having like those feel

514
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: good people around you to lean on and be like,

515
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 1: what do I do?

516
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 3: Like, I just felt really lost.

517
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 4: To be honest, what did not feeling healthy feel like?

518
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 4: For you?

519
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 3: Oh?

520
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 1: I mean it was tough because that was my first

521
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 1: time feeling like in that position. And that's I think

522
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 1: when I talked about previous like everything catching up to

523
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,959
Speaker 1: me with the pressure and the expectation, and just like

524
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: you know, like our lives very busy. We're constantly looking

525
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 1: forward to dates and stuff like that. Would like dates me,

526
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: like competition.

527
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 4: Dates and not romantic dates.

528
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: Competition dates, stuff like that.

529
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: You know, So I think you sometimes I don't even

530
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,199
Speaker 1: have time to think. You just like go, and then

531
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, when there is a moment to pause,

532
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: you're like, whoa, you know what I mean totally so yeah,

533
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: I think having an amazing support crew really helped me

534
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: like be like hey, like again, like that's when my

535
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 1: family I kind of really leaned on them because I'm like,

536
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: you guys know me better than I know myself right now,

537
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,199
Speaker 1: Like I feel really lost and I want to do

538
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 1: I just don't feel like myself.

539
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,439
Speaker 3: And as hard as it was to step away, it

540
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 3: was really uncomfortable.

541
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: All I've ever known was surfing and it's just been

542
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: brought me so much joy and happiness, and to kind

543
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: of get all that ripped away from you is really hard.

544
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: And I was kept telling myself, like, you know, it's

545
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 1: not a sprints of marathon, like I want to do

546
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 1: this for a lot more years, and I you know,

547
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 1: I want to do. I want to enjoy it. And

548
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 1: that's why I started surfing, is because I enjoy it

549
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: so much. I was only nineteen at the time. I'm like, what, Yeah,

550
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: what's one year when I have my whole life ahead

551
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: of me, right, and and the moment is the.

552
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 3: Worst thing ever.

553
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: But looking back, I'm glad it happened to me because

554
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: I'm pretty stubborn, so I almost needed to hit like

555
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: that rock bottom, you know, for me to really be

556
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 1: like all right, Like I got to get my stuff together.

557
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for sharing that.

558
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: It's so commendable to be in this place where you

559
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 2: can vocalize, hey, I'm not okay. And especially when we

560
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: talk about mental health, that is something that is so

561
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 2: challenging to confront because it's not like you're on the

562
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: water and you caught a bad wave and you fell

563
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: and you broke something like a brain injury for lack

564
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: of a better term.

565
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: It's so different, very different, and I like to be honest,

566
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: I didn't really know too much about mental health until

567
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: I was going through it, and I was like, WHOA,

568
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 1: Like so many people can relate to this, and some

569
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: of my favorite athletes have taken a break and come

570
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: back even stronger, and those those are really inspiring stories.

571
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 3: But you're so right.

572
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: It's not like, oh I broke my col just got

573
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 1: to heal and fix it. It's like, you know, yeah, having

574
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: mental health times or issue or whatever like that's it's

575
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: it's difficult for sure. And yeah, it's tough because you

576
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: kind of feel lonely, like oh, no one else feels

577
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: this way. But then I think as I started to

578
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: become more vulnerable, it's like, oh, okay, like this is

579
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,959
Speaker 1: it's okay to not be okay sometimes and yeah, and

580
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: so I I it took me a while to get

581
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: there though, Like.

582
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, so, what did the what did

583
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: the healing if we're gonna use air quotes, like what

584
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 2: did the healing process look like for you?

585
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 4: In practice?

586
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: I think, just yeah, surrounding myself with good people, kind

587
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 1: of finding that joy I didn't serve for a few months,

588
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: Like just finding that, which is like rare for me,

589
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: Like I love, I love. It's hard for me to

590
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: stay on the water for a few days.

591
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 3: So like I think, just.

592
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: Kind of peeling everything back and being with my family

593
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: and you know, I you know, I live in California,

594
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: but I went back to my hometown just like went

595
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: back to my roots and really like did things. I'm

596
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: not gonna go into like every detail, but like did

597
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: things to obviously, like you know, get me in the

598
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: best mental space I could be in. And yeah, but again,

599
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: I know I keep saying this, but I think just

600
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: surrounding myself with really good people, people that you know,

601
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: will tell me like constructive criticism but also like really

602
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: build me up. I think was my family really like

603
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 1: they're they're a huge support in that.

604
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: I've heard so many times this saying, you don't take

605
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 2: criticism from someone that you wouldn't seek advice from. Yeah,

606
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: And so being in this place where we know that

607
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 2: we are the sum of the people that we surround

608
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 2: ourselves with at any given moment, what a beautiful opportunity

609
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: for you to lean into that support system for sure percent.

610
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 4: So spoiler alert, it it does you really well.

611
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 2: It does you really well, because not only have we

612
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 2: already referenced walking away from Paris with that gold medal,

613
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: but also a world champion talk to me about getting

614
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: back into the water and how it felt those first

615
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 2: few times.

616
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,479
Speaker 3: That's so funny.

617
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: The other day I was talking to my coach and

618
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: he actually mentioned he's like it's crazy, like some of

619
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: the best, like the best things in my career happened

620
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: after I took time away, which is so wild to

621
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: think about, and like in that moment, I never would

622
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 1: have thought, like I was like, am I ever going

623
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,239
Speaker 1: to be back to that person I was before? Like

624
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: that girl just grew up that love surfing and just

625
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: loved competing. And yeah, it's been a really fun journey

626
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: so far, which is amazing. But yeah, I mean I

627
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: started this season I won the world title twenty twenty three.

628
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: I actually started this season like just super uncomfortable and

629
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 1: like vulnerable. I'm like, okay, I just took the most

630
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: time I ever have off a competition, Like you know,

631
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: I'm surfing. I'm excited about it, but like, you know,

632
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: where am I going to fit in? I was like

633
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: it was just kind of weird, you know, and like

634
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: the first half of the season, like yeah, I was

635
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: just kind of like like a little vulnerable, kind of

636
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: like nervous to kind of get back into it. And

637
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: as the year went on, I just kept building confidence.

638
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: And that's when like I kept telling you myself, I

639
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I can't expect myself to just feel

640
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: one hundred percent perfect, you know, like I just it's

641
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: all good, like I'm gonna get through it. And yeah,

642
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: as the season went on, I just kept building confidence, and.

643
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 4: That's what I keep telling myself.

644
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: So tell me a little bit more about that inner

645
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 2: dialogue because that is so interesting. Right, You're probably not

646
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: performing exactly how you want to, yet you keep showing

647
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: up anyway, which is so challenging.

648
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 4: Whether we're talking about sirfinger, we're not talking about the.

649
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, self belief and courage is huge, like

650
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 1: and things like aren't just like always going to be perfect,

651
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, you just got to be like all right,

652
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: like sometimes you just got to get through it and

653
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: just like have that self belief and that also gives

654
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: you confidence. Like I was kind of like whoa, okay,

655
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't you know, in my best mental state.

656
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: But then I still, you know, kind of like talking

657
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: like sometimes you gotta fake it till you make it.

658
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, like tell yourself, I got this, and

659
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: then like you know, it worked out, and then it

660
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: almost gives you confidence like okay, like you can do

661
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: it if you have self belief. But yeah, as the

662
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: season went on, I started just like really clicking to

663
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: myself and it was like, you know, the second half

664
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: of the season, I had a really strong second half

665
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: of the year and I felt like I was surfing

666
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: really good. Everything was clicking, just felt like myself again.

667
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean that winning role title has been

668
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: the biggest dream mind since I've been a little girl,

669
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: like ever, and the way it all happened to, you know,

670
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: I my whole family there, it was at Lower Trestles,

671
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: which is like in my backyard. It was just incredible,

672
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: like the most magical moment ever.

673
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 3: So cool.

674
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's so special to hear that, and

675
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: especially your acknowledgement that this really great thing happened for

676
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: me when I allowed myself to take a step back.

677
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: So often we are going and going and going and going,

678
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 2: and to your point about like I'm always just thinking

679
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: forward to the next date that I have to go to, right,

680
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 2: like we turn on autopilot. But when you take that

681
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: time to sit with yourself, as uncomfortable as it can be,

682
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: it can also be a game changer for sure.

683
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was my first time obviously doing that,

684
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: so like it was weird.

685
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: I was like Okay.

686
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: I was like learning like so many things about myself,

687
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: and like it's sometimes scary to sit in your feelings

688
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: and like, you know, like it's a lot of times

689
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: you want to distract yourself and make your schedule busy.

690
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: Just to like not think and to really like dive

691
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: deep and to really get to know myself was pretty cool.

692
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: It's scary, though, but it was like, looking back, you know,

693
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: it's really cool.

694
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 4: And yeah, someone says.

695
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: That you really got to know yourself, tell me a

696
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: little bit more about that, Like what did you learn

697
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 2: about yourself?

698
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: I just think, like, I don't know, that's a really

699
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 3: deep question.

700
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: No, I mean it is, because I think that's so often,

701
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: you know, maybe you're listening to a podcast or whatever

702
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: you're doing and someone's saying, like, I just really took

703
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: the time to like get to know who I am,

704
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: and it's like, well, who are you? Like when you

705
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: I usually say this question for the end, but I

706
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: think it's a really good time to go there. Like

707
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: when you look in the mirror, what is it that

708
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: you see looking back at you?

709
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: WHOA?

710
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I think I'm you know, I

711
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: look at myself A couple of years ago to now

712
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: and like you know, when I was sixteen to twenty

713
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: to twenty to just turn twenty four, like on Valentine's

714
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: Day actually recently, and I think, you know, obviously, I

715
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: am a very like I do see myself as a

716
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: driven person that's like passionate about what they love to do.

717
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: That hasn't changed.

718
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: And I'm proud of that for sure, and that comes

719
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,239
Speaker 1: from for sure, like my whole families like that, and

720
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: you are a lot of who you surround yourself with.

721
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: But I yeah, I do, I will say, like a

722
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,239
Speaker 1: passion a person. But I'm totally still learning about who

723
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: I am and it's fun and I love it, I think,

724
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: just like sometimes it can be scary, but I've just

725
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: learned to embrace it.

726
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: And seeing so much more like beyond who you are

727
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: as a surfer for sure.

728
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: For sure, and I think, like you know, you start

729
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: to like find joy in other things too, you know,

730
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: it's like you live, breathe, eat surfing, but you also can,

731
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: like I don't know, like my friends make me really happier,

732
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: like you know, going to a fun restaurant with my friends,

733
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: like things I used to never think about or think

734
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: that I couldn't do because I was like letting my

735
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: guard down, Like you can.

736
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: Totally do that.

737
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 4: It's like letting my guard down.

738
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

739
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: So I think like that stuff, I'm like, okay, I

740
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: can be do all those things. And I'm like, a really,

741
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a pretty simple person, like going

742
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: to like a fun coffee shop or you know, trying

743
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: my favorite food, or going to see like the sunset.

744
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: Like I've seen a bazillion sunsets around the whole world. Yea,

745
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: and I still love seeing the sunset, I might, you know,

746
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: like I still love it every time. Like that brings

747
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: me joy, and like just little things like that filling

748
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: my cup and other areas you know, helps me like

749
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: perform better because like it's not like so just like

750
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: one thing all the time.

751
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: You know.

752
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: That's entirely how flow state works, and that's how alignment works, right.

753
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: It's like when you feel good in one aspect of

754
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: your life, it starts to rub off on other things

755
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: that you care about. So for me, for instance, when

756
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 2: I'm in a place where I'm like really dialed in

757
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: with something as simple as my morning routine, I take

758
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: care of myself and my mental health in the morning,

759
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: and then I start to see that, like my work

760
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: feels better. I feel like I'm more present in my conversations,

761
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: and that presence, that presence is truly what really trinks

762
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: up the volume for almost everything for sure.

763
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: I mean, like, yeah, you made a great point, like

764
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: doing things that you know will make your day better,

765
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: like finding sometimes if you don't feel like it, whether

766
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: that's like even like I know a lot of people

767
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: are into like ice bath or whatever whatever that is

768
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: for you, Like you know, like that sometimes just like

769
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: sets your day up to be like really good. I

770
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: mean for me, like it's cool to say surfings like that.

771
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: For me, like it's my release, Like just getting in

772
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: the water. It like even if you don't have a

773
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: good session sometimes like you're just it's so therapeutic to

774
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: me in the ocean. I know my days can better

775
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: because I'm like, okay, like got in the water, Like

776
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, you're into mother nature, you're exercising.

777
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: It feels good, you know.

778
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: I want to now segue us into that Paris conversation

779
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: because you talked about how difficult it was for you

780
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: to recover after that fourth place finish. Now back at

781
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: the Olympics, where is the mental state going into those

782
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: first competitions.

783
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: I think for Paris, I just tried to like not

784
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: look too far ahead, which is like very hard to

785
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: do because like you're obviously there to win the goal medal,

786
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: and that's like but that's like a given. Like if

787
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: someone's like, oh, what's your goal, it's like, well, duh,

788
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: Like I'm not here to get second, you know, like

789
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: who's gonna say that, you know, were there to win.

790
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: But I think I was really trying to focus on

791
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: all the details and like how to into get getting there,

792
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: and you know, like I said before, we were competing

793
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: in Tahiti, which is a way called Chopu, which is

794
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: one of the most incredible waves in the world but

795
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: also one of like you know, can be heavy, scary.

796
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: It's over you know, comes from deep water on a

797
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: shallow reef, which makes the way so powerful and intimidating.

798
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: It's also a wave that you know, if you're ten

799
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: ten feet away to the ride, a little bit can

800
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: me the difference between like the.

801
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 3: Best way of your life or the worst wipe of

802
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: your life.

803
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: So I think I was really focused on just like

804
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: learning a lot about the wave and just like trying

805
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: to trying to focus on, you know, having good equipment,

806
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: like getting a good lineup spots, surfing good. I think

807
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: when I focus on like myself surfing good and just

808
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: being happy is when things.

809
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 3: Just start to flow.

810
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: And I was just also like I just want to

811
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: enjoy the whole experience, because the Olympic experience is so cool,

812
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: Like you're with a team, which you know, and surfing

813
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: it's very rare to get that. It's you're not usually

814
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: staying with your other you know, competitors, and so I

815
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: was just trying to enjoy the whole thing, you know,

816
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: enjoy all like the whatever, whether it was like you

817
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: get like merch bags, you know, from your sponsors.

818
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: Like stuff like that. Just trying to enjoy like every moment,

819
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 3: you know.

820
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I think just being in the moment

821
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: helped me get to the moment I.

822
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: Wanted to get to. I don't know how to explain,

823
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 3: you know, like I don't know.

824
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: That presence again, Yes, it's allowing yourself to be like

825
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: this is where I'm going to be.

826
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 4: Right now, Yeah, be where your feet are exactly, I guess.

827
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 3: So, yeah, and you pull out.

828
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 2: With the gold with a very small margin Oh my goodness.

829
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, it gives me anxiety looking bad.

830
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 2: This brings us into a conversation about befriending fear. What

831
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: has your relationship been like over the course of your

832
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: career thus far with learning how to befriend fear anxiety?

833
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 2: Maybe the worry that comes up with getting out there

834
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: and surfing some of the biggest waves in the world.

835
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's you know, there's times where I'm

836
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: scared all the time. Of course, like fear comes up,

837
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: whether it has to do with surfing or not even

838
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: do it surfing, just in life. I think just knowing,

839
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: like really good things happen outside of your comfort zone,

840
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,479
Speaker 1: that's what's like exciting to me, you know. Yeah, yeah,

841
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, like it's not that comfortable to

842
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 1: be in like a situation. Yeah, like even like riding

843
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: waves that intimidate you or or you know, being in

844
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: those really high pressure situations at the Olympics, Like that's

845
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: not comfortable, but like good, Like the best moments of

846
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: my life have been from when I've been uncomfortable and

847
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: knowing that it just motivates me.

848
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 4: Isn't it so funny though?

849
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 2: Because it's you're on the edge of something so frightening,

850
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: and I know there have been times where it hasn't

851
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: gone your way right, and so to then be able

852
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: to say, I'm not gonna let that one wipeout or

853
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 2: that one negative experience be the thing that guides me

854
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: or dissuades me from going after what I want.

855
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 4: That takes tenacity.

856
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: For sure, one hundred percent.

857
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: Then again, that's like where the self belief really comes

858
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,479
Speaker 1: in and things aren't part Like there's been times where

859
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, fear overtakes your mind and whatever, But as

860
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: long as you learn from that and be better next time, Yeah,

861
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: that's what's important.

862
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: Talk to me about the self talk that allows you

863
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: to kind of befriend fear in a moment like that

864
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: gold medal moment.

865
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think just like I said before, like just knowing,

866
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: like really good things happen outside your comfort zone.

867
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 4: What are you literally telling yourself in that moment?

868
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 2: I have my own little like things that oh she's

869
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 2: keeping it a secret.

870
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: Sorry, I can't give away all my Yeah, everyone has

871
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: their own thing that makes them click. Yeah you know,

872
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: uh so I just have my own thing. Yeah, yeah,

873
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: just cagy about her inner dialogue.

874
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: It's okay, I understand for me, I'm this is like

875
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: so lam and I think I forget what, like, yeah,

876
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: what's it like for you? I mean for me, for instance,

877
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: like my version of getting on a big wave, my

878
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: gold my own moment, at least up until this point

879
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 2: in my career is getting on stage and maybe being

880
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 2: in front of thousands of people.

881
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: That's scary, yes.

882
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 4: Exactly, And it could be a moment like it could

883
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 4: be just.

884
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 2: Like this, you and me, except we're on a stage

885
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: and it's consumer facing, and I have this opportunity to

886
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 2: not only show people that I'm capable of being in

887
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 2: the host seed of carrying on a good discussion, but

888
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 2: also my job is to make you look good. Right,

889
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: And so I get up there and I feel the

890
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: sweat on the back of my neck, and I'm like,

891
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: I just want to.

892
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 4: Do this as good as possible.

893
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: When I'm in that moment, my thing is what I

894
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: like to call I am statements. So it could be

895
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: something like I'm just telling myself all the things I

896
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: know to be true before I walk up on that stage.

897
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: I know that I am capable, and I am confident,

898
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: and I am good at what I do, and I

899
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 2: have done this before, right, and that's where I go

900
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: because then it squashes maybe the thoughts that aren't truth

901
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 2: and I can.

902
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 4: Just look at the facts.

903
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm an I AM statement person. If you

904
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: had to give me five I am statements.

905
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 3: Well thank you. I just learned a lot from you.

906
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 4: I mean that's my goal.

907
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 3: Wait really quick.

908
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a teacher tell me when I took it,

909
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: like whenever I get nervous about taking a test in

910
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: school or whatever, like they would aways just say like

911
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: like just tell yourself, I know something like even like

912
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: saying that like, oh I know something like helps a lot.

913
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 1: I know it sounds so like maybe it might sound

914
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: like so simple, but you know.

915
00:37:59,080 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 4: What it reminds me of.

916
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 2: It reminds me of that same mentality, well, that same

917
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: mentality of like I make my bed first thing in

918
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: the morning, and it's because I like my room to

919
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: like look a certain way, but it's also because it's

920
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 2: something I can do that's productive, that takes four seconds

921
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: and reminds me that I am.

922
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 3: I love.

923
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: Making my bed in the Morning's huge for me, Like

924
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: I I have to do it, Like it just sets.

925
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 3: Up I don't care how early it is, like, it's

926
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 3: just it's so worth it.

927
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 4: I have a confession.

928
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: Okay, let's hear it.

929
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: Sometimes I make my bed in hotel rooms. Okay, yeah,

930
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: I don't judge you for that. No, I don't judge.

931
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 4: I don't be a perfect like hotel room talk.

932
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not.

933
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 4: I love a hotel room talk.

934
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm not like it's funny for me if it's like

935
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: an Airbnb, I'm like gonna make my.

936
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 4: Bed, oh, but not in a hotel room.

937
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 3: Hotel room, I'm not. You know, I'm not.

938
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 4: No one's going to make your bed.

939
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: So I know, and I know, like.

940
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: This morning, I made my bed and then I just

941
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: went back before I came here and room services there

942
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: making my bed.

943
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: So I was like, I don't even need to do that.

944
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 4: But what I'm hearing he says, you've also made your

945
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 4: bed in a hotel room.

946
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 3: I did it this morning. See that makes me feel like,

947
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 3: no judgment.

948
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, my heart's just like a habit, you know what

949
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: I mean.

950
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: I'm rerling you back to I AM statements now. So okay,

951
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: for instance, if I was to tell you, like, if

952
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: you do this, you're gonna win the gold medal, what

953
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: are like four or five I AM statements that you

954
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: would tell yourself in the water.

955
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: I think I'm brave, I'm confident, like I put the

956
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: work in. I'm powerful, I am doing what I love.

957
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 4: Oh, I love that one. I love that one.

958
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 2: I that not I am statement, but totally valid moment

959
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: there of I've put the work in. I believe that

960
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 2: that is the most powerful I am statement. Air quotes

961
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: here that you can say that you can reflect on.

962
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 2: It's something that for me, I like to run, and

963
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: if I show up to a marathon starting line, the

964
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: best thing I can do is reflect on how far

965
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 2: I've come, just like I'm sure for you when you

966
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: got to the Olympics, it was like, this is not

967
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: my first rodeo, Like I have put in the work

968
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: to get to this moment, and I'm back on this

969
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: stage because I deserve to be.

970
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 3: Here, for sure.

971
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: I definitely think the second time around, you know a

972
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: little bit more of what to expect, of course, because

973
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: even though it's not a completely different wave, you're more

974
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: like I've been here before, and like you do have

975
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: a little bit more confidence, Like I know, like I

976
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: knew more of what the pressure was going to feel like,

977
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: which I think obviously was helpful. I just knew how

978
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: to handle my emotions better, you know.

979
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 2: So, yeah, handling your emotions better. That's also something that

980
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: can be really challenging. And that goes back to the

981
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: why for me. Beyond the I am statements. It's like,

982
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: sometimes we have these moments where it just feels so

983
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 2: much bigger than us, right, Yeah, it just feels uncontrollable.

984
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 4: When was the last time you had a moment like that?

985
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 3: I mean maybe this film.

986
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: I honestly like I was just like, whoa, There's so

987
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: many like moving parts and like so much that I'm

988
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, Like I just think in

989
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: life in general, like there's just so much that's out

990
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: of your control, and you just like I think surfers

991
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: are pretty good at like letting it go because we

992
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: kind of have to be you know, we have to

993
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: be pretty chill with like life just because you know,

994
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: you're dealing with mother nature and like, yeah, the ocean

995
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: is the great equalizer, Like it's very it's humbling, you know,

996
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: and you just don't know what's going to happen ever,

997
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, making this film, I think, just like getting

998
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: trying to get everyone together. Red Bull's been an amazing

999
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: like the team behind this project. Everyone from Red Bull

1000
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: has just been so incredible. If it wasn't for them,

1001
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: this project wouldn't happen. And just having really passionate people

1002
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: behind the scenes that are going above and beyond of

1003
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: what they even needed to do has made it like

1004
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: be such an incredible film. So I think like there

1005
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: was moments where I'm like, whoa, this feels so like big,

1006
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: and people were even thinking bigger than I will, Like,

1007
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: you know, people behind the scenes were thinking like than

1008
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: I was, because I'm just thinking, like surf film, I

1009
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: want to get all the best girls together and I

1010
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: want to be inspiring, and some people have the scenes

1011
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: were like, well, how about if we make it like mainstream,

1012
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: like people had never heard about surfing, like make it huge,

1013
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, like let's think about that, you.

1014
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 2: Know, make it mainstream, which opens you up kind of

1015
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 2: like we said about that New York premiere to new audiences,

1016
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: which exactly a big part of the goal. Say someone

1017
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: is exposed to you for the first time, what is

1018
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: it that you want them to see in you?

1019
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: Like I would just love for someone to watch the

1020
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: film and be like wow, like they're such a bright

1021
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: future and female surfing like that just looks so cool

1022
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: and so fun, you know what I mean. Yeah, just

1023
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: like in just I guess like inspiring. But hopefully people

1024
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: watch it and they're like, I want to.

1025
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 4: Try surfing beyond the film though, what about you?

1026
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I hopefully like people walk away and

1027
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: they're just like wow, like if you like having like

1028
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,280
Speaker 1: that self belief, like if you really want to achieve something, like.

1029
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: Go after it.

1030
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: You know, like hopefully I give off that vibe or persona.

1031
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: I think you give off that vibe in that persona.

1032
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: I think that there's just so much power in the

1033
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: vulnerability of all of it. It's kind of going back

1034
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 2: to your note about I didn't really understand a lot

1035
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: about my own mental health when I realized that something

1036
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: fell off and I was struggling. Vulnerability is relatable. Perfection

1037
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 2: is not relatable. Yeah, it never will be.

1038
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 4: For sure.

1039
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 3: I think. Yeah, vulnerability is very powerful.

1040
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: And that's like been a thing about social media that's

1041
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: been tough, is because like we're all guilty.

1042
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 3: You know, I'm guilty of it all.

1043
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: Just raise my hand like it's a highlight reel of

1044
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: your life and you're not like, you know, you're not

1045
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: posting a photo. Dun't that like you're having that you

1046
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: had a horrible week from It's like about a great

1047
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: week and perfect sunsets and like your best angle whatever,

1048
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: which is totally fine, we all do it, you know,

1049
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: But I think, yeah, just like having that vulnerability too

1050
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: mixed in with that is is like like I say, yeah,

1051
00:43:58,840 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: people can relate to more.

1052
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 4: For sure, your best angles brings me around.

1053
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: Which is no problem with That's like great angles every

1054
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 2: which way. However, I can't imagine having to be in

1055
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: a bathing suit for my job. How has your relationship

1056
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: with your body evolved over time?

1057
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great question.

1058
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's super cool to like, you know, my

1059
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: work outfit's ubikini. It's a really cool part. But it

1060
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: also comes with a lot of like you know, obviously,

1061
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: I think for me, like the hardest thing was like

1062
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: growing up. You know, I've grown up on the tour

1063
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: pretty much. Yeah, from like fifteen to twenty four now,

1064
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: and like your body changes so much from fifteen to twenty,

1065
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, and then the twenty to twenty five or whatever.

1066
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: Not twenty five yet, but like you know, you know

1067
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: what I mean. And so I think, just like people

1068
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: just on the internet have access to say whatever they want.

1069
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: You know, anyone can say anything.

1070
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes seeing things about yourself, like there

1071
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: can be a million comments about like po the things

1072
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: about how you look, and then one bad one. It's

1073
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: just like hard not to focus on the bad one.

1074
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1075
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 4: Are you people.

1076
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: No, I'm not a blocker.

1077
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, you.

1078
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: Can just do you I'm not gonna, I'm yeah, I'm

1079
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: just like kind of maybe people pleaser, like, ah whatever,

1080
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: you know now, I don't care.

1081
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 4: Like you know, getting there is so hard.

1082
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, well not like you know, I'm not for sure,

1083
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: Like there's some things I don't you know, I'm just

1084
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: I care a lot less than I did when I

1085
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: was younger, which I think just comes with maturity. You

1086
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: become more secure in yourself. That's just growing up, you know.

1087
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think when I was younger, I definitely

1088
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: struggle with it for sure. Likes, there's things that are

1089
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like you always want what

1090
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,479
Speaker 1: you can't have, you know, like you might be looking

1091
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: at other, you know, people that you want to look like,

1092
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: but then they there are people that might be looking

1093
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: at you that they want to look like you. But

1094
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: you don't think about that. You just think like, oh

1095
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: if I just had this or that or whatever. I

1096
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: think surfings really help me because I've always had something

1097
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: to put my mind, like such a passion about being

1098
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: so good at something. Yeah, that's helped me just like

1099
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: I'm just like I love being strong for my sport,

1100
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: like because it helps me win and that feels good

1101
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: and that's what I want to do.

1102
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1103
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,479
Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, surfing and being so passionate about

1104
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: being really good at something and being the best that

1105
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: something has really helped me with a lot of body stuff.

1106
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: You're like, no matter what my body looks like, it

1107
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: empowers and enables me to do this thing that brings

1108
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: me so much.

1109
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 4: Joy for sure.

1110
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think like at the end of the day,

1111
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: like I've I guess I've just learned like everyone looks

1112
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: so different, you know, like everyone's like body structure or

1113
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: whatever it looks. It looks very different and that's cool.

1114
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: That's what makes everyone so unique and beautiful in their

1115
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: own way. And I think knowing like you're the only

1116
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: one that's you, that's like a superpower, Like no one

1117
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: can be you know, one can be me. Like that's

1118
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: just how it is, and I love that, you know,

1119
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: not saying every day is perfect at all.

1120
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 3: Like you know, there's days you wake up and you're like.

1121
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm kind of bloated, like I don't feel like

1122
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: and then there's days where you're like I'm looking snatched,

1123
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: like hey, I look great, here's time for a carousel,

1124
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,240
Speaker 1: you know, like time for my you know, like that's

1125
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: super normal, you know, like and we all go through that.

1126
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes like people might look at athletes

1127
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: or like, I mean, I'm not a celebrity about any

1128
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: means or celebrity. Like I've looked at celebrities and I'm like, oh,

1129
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: like their life must be perfect, and it's like everyone's

1130
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: you know, human, and there's there's days where you just

1131
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 1: don't feel that great, and there's days where you feel amazing.

1132
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 3: It's just like whatever, you know.

1133
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: I think like the last couple of years, I'd say,

1134
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: like about like two years ago, I found like a

1135
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: healthy balance. So we're like, well, I'm like I feel good.

1136
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: I Like I'm happy with how I look, and I

1137
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 1: also can do my sport and it just that brings

1138
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: me so much joy, like I'm proud of like yeah,

1139
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 1: I'm proud of that, you know, I.

1140
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 2: Like feel like I could exhale for you, Like that

1141
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: must be such a liberating feeling. Yeah, And to your

1142
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: point before saying, we often want the things that we

1143
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: don't have, for instance, a little bit of a shift.

1144
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 4: But your social media.

1145
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 2: Following, right, someone might see, oh she has x amount

1146
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 2: of social media followers, just like that must be.

1147
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 4: So cool, so much opportunity, et cetera.

1148
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 2: But then you're talking about maybe some of the downsides

1149
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: that come with that too, all of that criticism, all

1150
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: of those eyes. It's like you were saying even earlier,

1151
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: like if people have a feeling that they like want

1152
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 2: to criticize you or they have expectations of you, right,

1153
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: then that's probably a good thing because you're doing something right.

1154
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, and knowing that too, like also knowing

1155
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: like usually when people don't have anything nice to say, it's.

1156
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 3: Probably to do with their own insecurity.

1157
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: And I just think knowing that you're just like well whatever,

1158
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: like you know, just like you're like feel bad for

1159
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: the person almost, you know, like yeah, and it but yeah,

1160
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,479
Speaker 1: for sure, like the more eyes on you, the more

1161
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: people you got to impress, which is impossible to impress everyone. Yeah,

1162
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: so which means you're probably going to get more criticism.

1163
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: It definitely comes to a lifestyle. But yeah, it is,

1164
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: it is what it is.

1165
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 4: What's uh, what's changed for you as a gold medalist?

1166
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: I think just like like out of the thing, the

1167
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: things I've accomplished my career like that, that's definitely been

1168
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: like I've gotten the by far the most attention from

1169
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: that for sure, Like I was like, whoa, this is global,

1170
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: like everyone knows what The Olympics.

1171
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 4: Is even different than being a world champion for sure.

1172
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: Like I think I definitely get more of like obvious

1173
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: like I think in the surf world, I get more

1174
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: like you're the world champ. But I think outside of that,

1175
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: it's very like you're the Olympic gold medal. It's like,

1176
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you know kind of thing, which is

1177
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: super cool. I think with you know, sponsor opportunities, just

1178
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: opportunities like like that I think have been been huge.

1179
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: But I still like I still have this, you know,

1180
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: same friend group, Like I have my people, I have

1181
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: my family that I love, you know, I still put

1182
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: my shoe on the same way.

1183
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 4: Or whatever, you know, like whatever saying it is what

1184
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 4: I'm trying to say.

1185
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: But it is something that I think I'll always be

1186
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: like to this day, I'm like, I can't believe that,

1187
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: Like I can believe it happened, but I'm also like,

1188
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: I can't believe it happened. It is a pinchy moment,

1189
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: and it's just like it's brought me in a lot

1190
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: of incredible opportunity.

1191
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 4: For sure, you're also in the Hall of Fame.

1192
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 2: When I say that, like, if you were to tell

1193
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: your fourteen fifteen year old self that you were going

1194
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: to be in that Hall of fame, what would she

1195
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 2: even think about that?

1196
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: It's crazy And to get into like that young too,

1197
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,479
Speaker 1: was like how I was like, are you guys sure

1198
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: you're getting the right person?

1199
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 3: Like you know what I mean?

1200
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, Like wow, I'm super honored. You know,

1201
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: if you told my younger self any of this was

1202
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: going to happen, I'd be just like what, Like, yeah,

1203
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 1: are you serious? Like I'm just yeah, I'm so grateful

1204
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: for everything surfing's brought in me. It's just been amazing,

1205
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: Like all the best experiences of my life have been

1206
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: through surfing, and some of my best friends are through surfing,

1207
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: like it's just been so cool.

1208
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,720
Speaker 2: You know, last year I sat down with Gabby Thomas

1209
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 2: and she talked really beautifully about the importance of being

1210
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: a bit delusional.

1211
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, ignorance is blissed sometimes.

1212
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 4: It's blessed sometimes.

1213
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 2: Really speaking all of these big goals and do existence,

1214
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: you're at this place now where you really check some

1215
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 2: awesome stuff off the list. So if I was gonna

1216
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: say to you, now, all right, get delusion, all what

1217
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 2: happens next?

1218
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: It's funny you asked that because I think after I

1219
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: won the gold medal, everyone's like, well, what now, because like,

1220
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: those are my two biggest goals in serving ever is

1221
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: the world the world title in the gold medal, and

1222
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: like doing both of those things at twenty two, it's

1223
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 1: like kind of like whoa, okay, wait a second, that happened,

1224
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: Like wow, you know.

1225
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 3: What I mean, Like crazy, Yeah, it's crazy.

1226
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: I think, like it's funny because I know, like I'm

1227
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 1: so proud of doing those things, but I want more

1228
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: of those things, Like I want I would love to

1229
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: be in as many Olympics as possible. I would love

1230
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: to win wor moral titles and just to like really

1231
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: inspire this next generation and that's like I'm so proud

1232
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: of this film because like I've never dealt like I've

1233
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: always been so focused on competing and that's all I've

1234
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: cared about. Is just like winning this film is something

1235
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: that I just kind of jumped out of my comfort

1236
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: zone of doing. Yeah, And I think that's why I'm

1237
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: like super proud of it is because like I'm like,

1238
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: this is so new for me. I think I got

1239
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: a little delusional there. And also including all my biggest

1240
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,959
Speaker 1: rivals was kind of like crazy to like think about,

1241
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: like to like just I've battled with it personally because

1242
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, like I could selfishly do something about myself,

1243
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: or I can include my biggest rivals, which I know

1244
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: will get more attention and like it'll just be so

1245
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: good for the sport, you know, Like I have chills.

1246
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 4: That's so cool though.

1247
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: No, but like it's it's just like it's funny. I

1248
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: was talking to the girls about this morning, like I've

1249
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: totally bout like I don't know. I was like, I

1250
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: don't know how you girls feel. Well, like it's been

1251
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: hard for like I've battled with it myself, but now

1252
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: that it's done and I've seen it and we're enjoying

1253
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: like the fruits of our labor. Now I'm super proud

1254
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, you know, but that was a moment

1255
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: where I think I got a little delusional.

1256
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 4: Not anymore, We're not a delusion.

1257
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: Put it aside, because it is here and it is done.

1258
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 2: I am so happy that we were able to sit

1259
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 2: down today. And again, I'm so stoked on the film.

1260
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 2: I got the opportunity to watch it earlier today. I

1261
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: know after our conversation, you're doing a showing here in

1262
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 2: Los Angeles tonight.

1263
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 4: So best of luck with that.

1264
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, thanks for taking the time.

1265
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: Of course, of course, now before I let you go though,

1266
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: right now, you have an opportunity to offer yourself a

1267
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: piece of advice. Let's go back to after twenty twenty one.

1268
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 2: Let's go to twenty twenty two. We decide that we

1269
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: need to take a step back and do something really

1270
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: hard and get really uncomfortable and prioritize figuring out why

1271
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 2: everything feels a little bit off. Knowing what you know, now,

1272
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: what would you tell your younger self.

1273
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: Girl, You're going to get through it.

1274
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: Girl, you got a lot of fun ahead of you.

1275
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 1: You got this, You got this you're stronger than you think.

1276
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think you're stronger than you think because

1277
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: in those moments you feel so broken. So I think,

1278
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 1: just like, if I can tell myself, like, you're stronger

1279
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: than you think, you're going to get through this, I

1280
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: would tell myself that the.

1281
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 2: Ultimate pep talk, you are the best. Tell us how

1282
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 2: do we follow you on social media?

1283
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 4: Caroline?

1284
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: So my Instagram is Caroline Underscore Marks with two s's.

1285
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: I think Caroline Marx has taken so TikTok, I think

1286
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: it's Caroline Marks one. Those are like the two platforms

1287
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: I mainly use Amazing.

1288
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah I'm over at Emily a Badi and at Hurdle

1289
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 2: Podcast Another Hurdle Conquered.

1290
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 4: Catch you guys next time