WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Is Dak Top 5? 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:08.160 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:19.920 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:24.040 ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:28.400 Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:33.760 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:40.080 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:45.720 It is Wednesday, February third, twenty twenty one, season sixteen, 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:49.040 episode number ninety six. Welcome to the latest edition of 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.040 The Break, presented by Geico. We are live from the 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:53.479 s WBC Mortgage studios. At the start, I got Nick, 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:57.600 Amber and Dave with me. We're talking about the quarterback today. 0:00:57.640 --> 0:00:59.280 We want to spend a little time on this quarterback 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.040 carousel in the NFL. There's a lot of things happening 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:05.280 at the quarterback position. Probably unprecedented that we've seen this 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:09.080 much movement of top line quarterbacks around the league. We'll 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.480 talk about how that affects DAK and negotiations with the Cowboys. 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:14.960 Will also get into our the second half of our 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:19.360 offensive review. Last week we hit the quarterback position. We 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:22.200 also hit the wide receiver position. This week, we're going 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:25.000 to talk about running backs, tight ends, and offensive line. 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:29.280 Let's start first with this quarterback carousel. Nick, give us 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.200 a level set, like what are you what are your 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.880 expectations or what are you hearing? Maybe just thinking about 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:38.360 where things stand right now between the Cowboys and Dak Prescott. 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.920 I really don't know. I mean I to sit here 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:45.720 and say that I know what's going on would just 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:48.080 be a lie. I mean there's there's I don't. I 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.120 don't know how much they've talked. I mean there's reports 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:52.880 that they have talked, but I mean I've learned a 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.240 long time ago that just because they say they talked 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:57.080 about a trade, I mean for how long? I mean, 0:01:57.560 --> 0:01:59.840 what were these talks? Hey, how's it going? Let's get 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:02.560 a deal done. I do think that the you know, 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:06.280 not knowing what the salary cap is kind of limiting, 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:10.120 you know, the talks a little bit. But I still 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.840 think that, you know, they know it's close enough to 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:16.480 actually get something going. I would imagine knowing March ninth 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.959 is such a big important date that there are some 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:22.880 talks here, and because I think both sides really want 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:25.679 to get a deal done, I do believe that, and 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.120 I think because of that, and now there is a deadline, 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.079 and deadlines make deals, I guess, and even though we've 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:34.560 passed about four, I think this is the biggest one, 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:36.520 and I think that they'll get a deal done. That's 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:39.240 my gut feeling. The big news came out last week 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.520 that Matthew Stafford was traded from the Detroit Lions to 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:46.800 the Los Angeles Rams. The Rams gave up two first 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:50.040 round picks, a third round pick, and their starting quarterback, 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:53.120 Derek Goff. Dave, I'll ask you when you saw that news, 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:58.000 what was your first reaction to that that deal. My 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:02.560 first reaction was honestly like, Okay, well, there goes one 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:09.600 options because in this weird world where you have to 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:13.360 consider every possibility, I do think you know, one of 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.080 the few things that makes sense for that would have 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.239 made sense for them to do, other than pay Dak, 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:21.160 would be to try to get Matt Stafford out of Detroit. 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:24.920 You know, he's got a manageable contract, he's still fairly 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:29.040 young for a quarterback, He's obviously from Dallas. YadA, YadA, YadA. 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.280 So I mean it made sense for a lot of reasons. 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.600 So as soon as that happen, I was like, okay, well, however, 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:36.600 you know, that might have been unlikely, but it was 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.600 one of the most likely things, and that's off the 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:42.720 table now. On top of that, it just serves as 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:47.600 a very timely reminder that drafting a quarterback is not 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:51.000 always a guarantee to work out. Because Jared Goff was 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:54.160 the first quarterback taken in his draft class, and the 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:58.120 Rams wanted him gone so desperately that they gave up 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.400 a first for Stafford, and then they gave up another 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.680 one so the Lions would take his very large contract, 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.800 and that was a guy that they just paid what 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:11.000 like two years ago. So it's just, you know, you 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.160 never know because and you know, everybody's talked about it 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.479 incessantly at this point, but Dak is the only quarterback 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:21.359 left from his class that's either hasn't been benched, traded, 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.039 or cut by the team that drafted him. So it's 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.200 a crapshoot. Even if you have a top five pick, 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:29.279 you never know. It absolutely is. And when you look 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.200 around the league at what all is going on, you 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.240 have that trade that happens, you got Deshaun Watson and 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:37.200 Houston who reportedly wants to be traded. Whether they will 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.280 do that or not, who knows. San Francisco reportedly wants 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.800 to move move Jimmy Garoppolo. They are eyeing support, supposedly 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:47.680 Kirk Cousins in Minnesota. You got Drew Brees expected to retire. 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.760 Ben Roethlisberger probably should retire. I don't know, maybe he 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:54.280 decides to retire. But all of that, you look at 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.200 all these quarterbacks that are moving around and some of 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:00.440 them not going to be playing next year. And based 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:04.840 upon the hall that Stafford was able to command from 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.920 the Rams to Detroit, what do you think Dallas could 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.520 get if they were to tag Dak and try to 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:17.280 trade him. That is the scenario that I am not 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:20.800 entertaining because I don't want it. I think that I 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:24.960 am good with Dak. The trade. That trade was insane 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:29.440 to me again, and I feel really good about what 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.280 And I know it was a small sample that we 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:36.320 got from Dak last year, but still it made me feel. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.440 You know, in the past, I've always seen Dak as 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:41.599 a type of player that needs others around him to 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.599 make him better. Well, last year my mind started changing 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:46.840 and I started feeling the other way around to where 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.599 I feel that Dak is able to make other players 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:53.039 around him better. So I liked the way he was 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:57.800 trending up, and it's just hard to find a quarterback. Clearly, 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.479 as you can see all these changes, it is hard 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:04.159 to find a good quarterback that can give you what 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.600 you're looking for as far as all the traits on 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:10.839 and off the field. Now, one thing that I will say, 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.000 I don't know if anyone else feels this way, but 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:18.000 it just pisces me off that the Cowboys are always 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:21.120 so slow to make moves right after the offseason. You 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:24.720 always see other teams making moves right away and they 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:29.400 got into it even in free agency. I just feel 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:32.839 like we're always kind of behind. And it really bothers 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:36.240 me because you see other teams moving and then you're like, okay, 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:40.040 we're kind of getting at the bottom of things to 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:44.119 where you're left with not many options. You know, so 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.159 you guys have been here longer. Why do you think 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.280 that is? Because it really bothers me as far as 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.400 how long the Cowboys always wait in order to get 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.440 deals done. Well, it's by design, right and Nick, and 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:58.880 I'll let you kind of talk to this a bit. 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:00.480 To me, it seems like it's by design that the 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:05.280 Cowboys have made the decision, the conscious decision that they 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:09.120 don't want to be players in the big money free agency. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:13.480 They want to be players in the bargain basement shopping. 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.200 And again, whether you agree with that or not, that's 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.560 been their conscious decision. Yeah, they're not trying to set 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:22.040 the market. And this particular year is different just because 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.320 you know they are waiting to see I mean I 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:28.320 think they're kind of hiding behind that just to say, well, 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.120 we don't know what the cap is. But there's also 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.400 another side of it, as if anybody would know what 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:35.560 the cap is, it would be Jerry, you know, it 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:37.360 would probably I think he has an inside check on 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.720 that idea of what it might be. So uh, yeah, 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.440 I don't They've never been one to set the market 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.600 and they've never been one to really follow what other 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:48.520 teams are doing. And this is but there was a 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.360 time you and I were back here during a time 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.760 when they go early on. For you, you remember that 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:54.920 that one year when they got here, they got well, 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.400 well that year, like you're talking about Terrence No No, 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:01.120 when they got no No, they got like, uh, there 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.120 were three guys, I think they and they had press 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:05.760 cons for all three. Like the day free agency started, 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.120 it was a birthday was that it was a cornerback. Yeah, 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:12.080 it was a Henry marco vera yeah, and Jason Ferguson. 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.840 There you go, And they were all priority. Been a 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:21.280 long time ago because two thousand, two thousand and five, yeah, 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:25.560 two thousand and five, three press conferences one day, and 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:29.040 neither one of them was really that great. Pretty good, 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.920 It's okay, it's pretty good. Yeah, it was pretty good. Yeah, 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:33.800 I think. But do you guys think that they should 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:39.480 change the strategy? Yes, I've been saying, We've been saying 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:41.839 for years that we think they should change the strategy. 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:45.520 I mean we talk about that every spring, and I 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.440 mean yeah, like they aren't big spenders in free agency 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.760 the other Yeah. And you know, for whatever reason, the 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.640 Cowboys insist that it has to happen on a deadline. 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:56.439 And Nick, I know you said that they've let a 0:08:56.480 --> 0:09:00.600 lot of deadlines pass already, but not on any drop 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.920 dead deadline, right, And that's what March ninth, March not 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.160 what That's what March ninth is starting to feel like, 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.319 is like crapper get off the pot type of moment, 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:13.240 and for whatever reason, the Cowboys just feel like they 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:14.800 have to let it get to that point. I don't 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:16.840 really know what I will say this though, and I 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:18.880 don't want to be the revisionist history guy, so I 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.920 have to say I actually was. And this is going 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.839 back to those days of the early two thousands, Nick, 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:26.640 you and I were here when we saw them go 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:29.920 out and give up two first round picks for Galloway, 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:32.240 and we saw him give up picks for, you know, 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:35.120 for Roy Williams. And we saw them have that year 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.280 when they went and got Anthony Henry and those guys. 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.480 So there was a perception here in the early two 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.000 thousands that the Cowboys would always think they could win 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.720 the Super Bowl in free agency and they would go 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:47.320 out and they would spend, they would go out and 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.280 give up picks and they'd get guys and it didn't work. 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.199 And so for me, I was one of those people 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:54.920 that at that time, I was like when they kind 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.280 of made the shift, I was like, yeah, build it 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.559 through the draft. You'll have a better chance to building 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.160 through the draft because you're not doing well trying to 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:05.080 build it through free agency. So I think what we 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:09.280 found out in this whole process is both types of 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.640 scenarios can be flawed. It really comes down to if 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:14.880 you're gonna be hard, and free agency you still got 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.160 to get the right guys. You still gotta if you're 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:18.800 gonna spend money, you gotta make sure you got the 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:20.240 right guys. I would have loved to see them have 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.400 that strategy when they had Will McClay having more of 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.839 an input in what the guys that they were getting. 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.960 Maybe it turns out a little differently. But we've seen 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.000 both sides, Nick, We've seen we've seen the good and 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:32.800 the bad of free agency. We've seen the good and 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.840 the bad of just going through the draft. And I 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.400 don't know that there's a science that has to work 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.440 here or has to not. I don't think anything has 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:42.400 worked though really when I think about it, I mean 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.320 twenty five years, they haven't been to the super Bowl. 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.520 I haven't been to the Championship game in twenty five years. 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.160 So taking it back seat, and you know they're not 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:52.200 going to change the GM. So you can sit there 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.240 all you want, yell at the computer and say that's 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:57.800 what they need to do. I will argue that they 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:01.240 do have different gems. They do, they do it, and 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:04.200 the GM is the voice in the decision maker's ear, 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.439 and that's what I think is changing I think Jerry 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.520 doesn't make as many decisions as you think. But either way, 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:12.839 if they're not changing all of that, then they need 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.600 to change the approach. And we've seen all kinds of 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:19.040 different approaches and nothing has gotten to the decision to 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:24.000 the championship game. Yep, okay, but that sort of insinuates 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:26.760 that's just it kind of insinuates that there's only two 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.200 extremes that you can adhere to. I don't want the 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.560 Cowboys to splash one hundred and fifty million dollars on 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.559 the first day of free agency. I don't think most 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:38.520 fans want that. You just want them to be willing 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.240 to take calculated risks. You know. I'll bring it up 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.199 every time this comes up until I don't do this anymore. 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:48.000 Sign Tyron Matthew for a one year, seven million dollar deal. Yeah, 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:51.560 go get those types of players. Add good players to 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.000 your team. If you have to spend some money, do it. Nobody, 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.480 you know the Giants. That's the thing I think about 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:00.400 when we talk about this is the Giants signed Damon Harrison, 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:04.120 Olivier Vernon, and Genorris Jenkins all on the same day 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.680 of free agency, and they had to cut or trade 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:08.720 all of them within like three years. Like, that's not 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.679 what I'm after. You just gotta be willing to do 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.480 more than scrape the bottom of the barrel, which is 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.400 what the Cowboys insist on doing. Yeah, I'm with you. 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:19.760 I look at a guy even like Minka Fitzpatrick when 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.240 he became available, like, go and get that kind of guy. 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.079 He's young, he's a really good player. I don't care 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.040 if you don't think he fits your scheme, didn't make 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.080 your scheme fit him, Like he's a good player. And 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.360 I think those are the types of things I agree 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.600 with you, Dave. Those are type scenarios I'd like them 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.040 to take a chance on a little more frequently, rather 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.800 than making a big splashing free agency or rather than 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.760 going out and just saying we're gonna go all bargain 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:43.520 basement on free agency and try to build it to 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.760 the draft being said, and you would have been fine, 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:47.960 I mean, sitting back now, you'd be fine with having 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:51.480 Mina Fitzpatrick have to sign him, which I think they 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:55.600 would and not have ceedee lamb. And because it wouldn't 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.280 it have they would have parted a first round pick. 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.319 I mean maybe, I mean, I don't know what it 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:00.840 meant could go for did they have to give a 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:05.400 first round pick for pretty sure they did? Yes, they do. Yes. Um, 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.440 you know you don't know what you have until I mean, like, yeah, 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.600 you don't know, Like you would have still had you 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:13.400 would have still had two really good wide receivers. We 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.920 had that conversation last week. You got you you you 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.680 have an embarrassment of riches at the wide receiver position. 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.760 Right now, right now, I will tell you, and you 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:23.240 guys say this all the time. I'd love to hear 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:26.120 how you think about it. But if if you're telling 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.000 me you're going to get for the first time in 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:32.439 a very very long time, a game changing, playmaking type safety, 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:34.680 would you be willing to give up a premiere wide 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:41.559 receiver for that? Uh? I wouldn't. I mean, I'll be 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.640 you know, with hindsight's always twenty twenty. I would be 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:49.120 very happy if this team had make a Fitzpatrick and 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.319 I would have never known that they would have missed 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.040 out on CD Lamb, Like we never would have had 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:58.640 to think about it. So, yeah, Lamb's on this team. 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:00.680 But if you told me I had make a Patrick instead, 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.160 I wouldn't be upset about it. You know, since I 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.760 started working here and learning about the draft and the 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.840 process and all of that. I've always heard this sentence 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.520 that it always annoys me, now that I know the 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.079 game a little bit better. But it's this idea of 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:20.080 drafting for the future, and I get the concept behind it, 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.000 but I've been here for what like six seven years? 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:26.720 Where when is the future happening? I mean, where has 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:31.520 that gotten you? No way? Really, So it's it's just 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:37.600 frustrating when to me, it's always that mentality of drafting guys, 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:39.600 and you have to draft guys, I get it, But 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:43.200 at the same time, those guys come with the need 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.840 of development and time of playing out in the field 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:51.200 and you're turning and molding this player into something better. 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.960 But sometimes you don't have the time for that, and 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:58.960 you look at the veteran players that have departed and 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:02.320 the transition to a new, younger ruster and all that, 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:05.480 but still you need veteran help and sometimes you do 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.120 need to make a splash in free agency and made 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.360 that move, And it might not happen this year because 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.880 we're talking about Dak Prescott and the quarterback position, so 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.080 that's gonna be the biggest splash this year. But It's 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:20.360 just very unfortunate that years come and go and you 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.880 never see that kind of help coming to the team. 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.360 We're always left with little like crumbs, and not that 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:30.680 crumbs are bad. Sometimes they're good, but you sometimes need 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:35.680 a little bit more power and strength rather than because 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:37.960 I always watch it, you know, on social media, you 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.480 see other teams making move and you're like, man, when 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:42.800 are the cor was gonna do something? What are we 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:46.280 waiting on? And we're always like towards the last weeks 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:50.280 of free agency making moves, And it's just like a 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:55.200 little disappointing, disappointing because you do want those veteran guys 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:57.480 to be able to come in here and make an 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:01.000 impact right away. I'm gonna change the car conversation just 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.320 a bit and I'm gonna go to you Nick first 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.480 on this question. Is there a price tag of what 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:08.920 you could get back that would make you want to 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:14.120 consider trading Dak Prescott? What would that price tag be? 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:20.760 Two number ones? You would do it for two number ones? Yeah? Yeah? 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:24.280 Would do you at all consider the fact that when 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.760 you look at and Dave alluded to this a little earlier, 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:31.720 when you look at the hit misrate of quarterbacks even 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:33.320 the ones selected in the first round. Me and my 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.800 wife were actually having this conversation last night. If you 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.200 go through and think about the best quarterbacks in the NFL, 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:43.080 we couldn't come up with other than Watson. We couldn't 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:46.480 come up with a single quarterback that you consider one 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:48.200 of the top tier guys in the league right now 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:52.440 that was selected high in the first round. Like you 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:55.760 start going through a list of Rogers and my Homes 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:59.240 and some of the other guys we threw out there there, 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.160 Russell Wilson, and if you want to put Dak in 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.879 that conversation, I'm not sure, but you know, you just 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.560 go start going down this list. These are not like 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:11.000 the top guys Wentz Golf, Like, those are the guys 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.320 that you're having problems, Like you're thinking that was a 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:17.080 wasted pick. So if you've got two first round picks, 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:21.960 are you sure you can get a replacement for Dak Prescott. No, 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:25.280 I'm not sure, But you know, ask the whole group though, 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:29.280 because I'm gonna get to them, because I feel like 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.359 when I watched the Super Bowl and I see the 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:34.080 championship game and I see these guys that are playing, 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:37.600 I see guys that are playing, and I, you know, 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:39.840 look at the guys around them. I don't think that 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.879 there's a lot of top There's not a lot of 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:44.840 high drafts around them too. If you want to talk 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.760 about high draft picks, these top quarterbacks that you're staying, 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:49.640 they don't really have a lot of high draft picks 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.679 around them. I mean, I think that Davante Adams has 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:54.639 turned into a star. I think Rogers has helped with that. 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:56.080 I don't think he was a top pick. I don't 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.480 think it's Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelcey were top picks. 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:00.760 I know that nobody can seattle all up there was 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:03.720 the top pick. So I just feel like, you know, 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.239 those guys have done well to develop the guys around him. 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.160 I think Dak's got more help than others. And I'm 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.600 not one hundred percent sure that Dak is is great. 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:13.680 I think Dak is really good, but I don't think 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:15.960 I don't know if he's shown that he's great. So 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.000 there'd be a risk in trading him away. There'd be 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:20.920 a risk and signing him for forty million, because I 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.239 think you're seeing down in Houston what happens when you 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.240 try to say, go win it for us, to Sean, 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.280 and that's that's gonna be. That's hard as well, because 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:30.000 they took a lot of his talent away from him, 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.719 and I don't think he's all that best talent from him, 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.280 no doubt. That took his best talent away from him 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:37.320 and thought that, well, forty billion, let's go win. And 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:39.159 you know it's hard. It's hard to do that. So 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:43.040 it's risky either way. All right, Dave, is there a 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:47.600 price tag in what would it be? Yeah? So this 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:49.520 is actually something that I brought up on the Draft 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.280 show and some people pointed it out to me. It's 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:56.880 very fair to point out Dak has veto power over 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:59.919 somebody trying to trade him, because you can't trade him 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:03.040 until he signs his kind of his franchise tender, and 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:04.919 if he doesn't want to sign it, there's nothing you 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:07.440 can do. You can't you can't do anything unless he's 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:10.159 willing to sign that. So if you were going to 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:12.800 trade him, you would have to okay it with the 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.639 team trading for him. Okay, okay, with Dak and his people. 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:19.280 Get everybody on the same page that this is something 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:20.600 they want to do, and then you can do it. 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:22.280 So it's let me jump in real quick, let me 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:26.080 jump quick, real quick. I would think it's probably because 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.159 of the fact that he would be on a franchise tag. 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:31.200 Most likely whoever would be trading for him, they would 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:32.560 want to be talking to him and have a long 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:34.560 term deal already set up in order for them to 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.560 say yes, because that kind of takes a while with 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.679 his agent. Oh but you know that's the point, like 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:44.640 that I have to happen, Yes, of course, But all 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:47.280 I'm saying. All I'm saying is, you know, if if 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:50.000 the Cowboys wanted to ship him to Houston, where the 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.800 culture just seems like a disaster, he could say, hell, no, 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:55.440 I don't care how much you're gonna pay me. I'm 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:57.680 not going there. That looks like a train wreck anyway. 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:01.439 So the point being, yes, there's a price that you 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:03.359 could pay me to get me to listen, but it 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.160 would be high. And the scenario I came up with 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:11.840 yesterday wash if the Miami Dolphins approached me about giving 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:15.439 me the third overall pick, the eighteenth overall pick, and 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:20.400 two a Tonga Viloa for dak, I would be sorely tempted. 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:24.439 I would be sorel I would probably I'd have to 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:27.080 at least give it a lot of considerations. To say 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:28.560 I would do it was shaking your head like you 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:35.600 wouldn't do that, But go ahead, Dave, I don't. I 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:38.440 don't blame Derek if he's hesitant toa didn't look great 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:41.679 last year in the opportunities that he got. And then 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:44.879