1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. So 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Michael darry Show is on the air. 3 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: Fifty former national intelligence folks who said that what this 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 2: he's accusing me of is a Russian plant. They have 5 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: said that this has all the care. Four five former 6 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: heads of the CIA, both parties say what he's saying 7 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: is a bunch of garbage. 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 3: They displayed naked photos of me during an. 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: Oversight here, and they have taken the light of my 10 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: dad's love for me. 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 4: The monster's gone, is on and your dad is here 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 4: and presented it as darkness. They have no shame. 13 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 5: I'm extremely proud of my son Hunter. He has overcome 14 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 5: an addiction. He is He's one of the brightest, most 15 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 5: decent men I know. And I am satisfied that I'm 16 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 5: not gonna do anything I said. I said, I ad 17 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 5: buy by the jury decision. 18 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 6: I will do that, and I will not pardon you. 19 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: The President would not pardon or community sens for his 20 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: son Hunter. 21 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: I want to make sure that that is not going 22 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: to change for Old for the next six months. 23 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 4: The President's say it's. 24 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 3: Still a no, it's still an it's still a no. 25 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 3: It will be a no. It is a no, and 26 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 3: I don't have anything else to add. Will he pardon his. 27 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 7: Son No, CNN has learned President Biden will pardon his 28 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 7: son Hunter. 29 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: Biden. 30 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 8: Let me be the first one to congratulate the President 31 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 8: for deciding to do. 32 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 9: I hope that President Biden will also issue preemptive pardons 33 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 9: to all of those people threatened by the unjustice of 34 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 9: what will become the Department of Justice in the Trump administration. 35 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 9: That of course includes Jack Smith and all of his staff, 36 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 9: many Department of Justice lawyers. It includes President Biden himself. 37 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: Hunter. 38 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 6: Well, you knew he would, and now he has. Joe 39 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 6: Biden has pardoned his son Hunter for eleven years worth 40 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 6: of crimes, which raises a number of questions that we 41 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 6: will do our best to address, and of course we'll 42 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 6: take your calls. In a bit. One programming note, I 43 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 6: have a terrible upper respiratory infection, which is of zero 44 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 6: consequence to the show. I only share that because if 45 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 6: you note a slight change in my voice, and I'm 46 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 6: going to do the absolute best I can to keep 47 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 6: you from hearing me cough constantly. But if for some 48 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 6: reason I trail off in the middle of a sentence 49 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 6: and Ramon hits the music. Should we just do Beautiful 50 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 6: Boy as our Hunter tribute throughout You'll know that I 51 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 6: really don't want y'all to be subjected to what my 52 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 6: poor wife and kids have had to hear for a week, which. 53 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: Is me coffee. 54 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 6: I have the best medical care. Doctor Mary Tally Boden 55 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 6: was out herself this past week, and so my wife 56 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 6: on Saturday said, Hey, why don't you go see Mary 57 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 6: Tally on Monday or sooner if possible, And so she 58 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 6: came in over the weekend yesterday, and so I am 59 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 6: on the proper meds. I am nebulizing and steroidizing and 60 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 6: coffee dropping and everything cough dropping and everything else that 61 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 6: can be done. So I just wanted to say that 62 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 6: I apologize. I know it's unpleasant, but there we go. 63 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 6: So we start with what a presidential pardon is. This 64 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 6: is the single biggest presidential pardon and since the Nixon pardon, 65 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 6: and probably the two biggest in American history. I went 66 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 6: searching to see because I could not think of a 67 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 6: pardon on a grander scale, a more egregious pardon than 68 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,679 Speaker 6: this one, and the only one that most every legal 69 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 6: scholar out there who has been in the first round 70 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 6: of responders can compare it to was when then President 71 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 6: Richard Nixon stepped down to be replaced by Gerald Ford, who, 72 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 6: of course, as you know, Ford was not elected as 73 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 6: the Vice president. Spiralty Agnew, the governor of Maryland, had 74 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 6: a number of problems and with regard to selling timber 75 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 6: interests on the East Coast and taking bribes, Agnew stepped down. 76 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 6: Gerald Ford replaced him, coming from the House, and then 77 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 6: as Vice President, Jerald Ford would ascend to the presidency. 78 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 6: And it was a quid pro quote deal that he 79 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 6: would pardon Richard Nixon with the idea of supposedly healing 80 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 6: the nation. There has not been in the fifty years. Hence, 81 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 6: a pardon on this scale, a pardon to raise the 82 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 6: hackles to this extent. And some will say, and I'm 83 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 6: not a fan of the pardon power, some will say 84 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 6: that we should do away with it. A bigger issue 85 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 6: than you might imagine. Article one of our Constitution lays 86 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 6: out the legislative body considered to be the more important 87 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 6: of the three bodies of our government, that being the 88 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 6: law writers the Legislative Congress. Article two the law enforcers, 89 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 6: that is, those who execute the laws. That's the executive branch, 90 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 6: which is the president. And this has been where the 91 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 6: problem has happened, the large bureaucracy that has grown up 92 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 6: into becoming what has been called an imperial presidency. And then, 93 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 6: of course Article three the judiciary which adjudicates those very laws. 94 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 6: Article two, Section two, Clause one reads quote, the President 95 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 6: shall be Commander in chief of the Army and Navy 96 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 6: of the United States. We didn't have marines at that time, 97 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 6: or an air force, and of the militia of the 98 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 6: several States. When called into the actual service of the 99 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 6: United States, he may require the opinion in writing of 100 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 6: the Principal Officer in each of the Executive Departments upon 101 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 6: any subject related to the duties of their respective offices. 102 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 6: And here we are, and he shall have power to 103 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 6: grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, 104 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 6: except in cases of impeachment. That doesn't cover this case. 105 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 6: So does Joe Biden have the actual authority to pardon 106 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 6: his son? 107 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 4: Yes? 108 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 6: Now, what that pardon means, what it covers, that's the 109 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 6: subject of greater conversation. There are a number of questions 110 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 6: that arise out of this. Number one, it's a pardon 111 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 6: covering eleven years going back to twenty fourteen, not coincidentally 112 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 6: the year that Hunter Biden joined the Barisma board. In 113 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 6: twenty fourteen, Joe Biden was the vice president of the 114 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 6: United States. If Hunter Biden was committing crimes as far 115 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,559 Speaker 6: back as twenty fourteen, considering that Biden was the vice 116 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 6: president until January twentieth of twenty seventeen, it's a pretty 117 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 6: clear admission that the Biden crime family was operating while 118 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 6: they had the full authority of the United States government 119 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 6: out of the Vice President's office. And then there arises 120 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 6: the question of why now Joe Biden has some almost 121 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 6: forty eight days left as president, And then there is well, 122 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 6: there's a lot. 123 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 4: To talk about. 124 00:08:54,920 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: This Tompray. 125 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 10: That was completely risking out of work to down all 126 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 10: inside and so frustrating, breaking the town, sound personal body, 127 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 10: us outside for. 128 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: Against my life. 129 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 8: Bringing along bringing a law, breaking the law, breaking the law, 130 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 8: breaking the law. 131 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 6: The Department of Justice as an office of the Pardon Attorney. 132 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 6: Since eighteen ninety three, that office has handled issues of 133 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 6: pardons and clemency. A pardon is a greater reprieve than 134 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 6: clemency because it restores the lost civil rights after a conviction, 135 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 6: the individual may reclaim those civil rights after a conviction. 136 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 6: Since eighteen ninety three there has been an office of 137 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 6: the Pardon Attorney within the Department of Justice. Of course, 138 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 6: the power to pardon goes back to the original Constitution. 139 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 6: Executive clemency, which you will often see written about, is 140 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 6: a lesser reprieve, whereas a full pardon, which is what 141 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 6: Hunter Biden has been given, absolves him of those crimes 142 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 6: for which he was charged and in this case might 143 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 6: be charged. Going back an eleven year period to put 144 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 6: it into perspective, the major the major pardons given throughout history. 145 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 6: See how many of these you remember. We'll get into 146 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 6: him later. Roger Clinton. On the last day of his presidency, 147 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 6: President Bill Clinton pardoned his brother Roger of a drug conviction, 148 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 6: a cocaine conviction, and Roger would of course then go 149 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 6: on to get a DWI a few months later. He 150 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 6: also pardoned Mark Rich businessman, He pardoned Susan McDougall, and 151 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 6: he pardoned former Housing secretary from San Anton, Henry Cisnaros. 152 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 6: In nineteen ninety two, President H. W. Bush pardoned six 153 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 6: men implicated in the Iran contra affair, cap Weinberger being 154 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 6: the most notable of those. President Reagan pardoned George Steinbrenner 155 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 6: for illegal contributions he had made to Nixon's campaign. Richard Nixon, 156 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 6: of course pardoned by Gerald Ford. President Jimmy Carter on October. 157 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 6: In October nineteen seventy eight, pardon Jefferson Davis. A bit later, 158 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 6: we should say, restoring the full citizenship rights of former 159 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 6: Confederate President Jefferson Davis, signing an act from Congress that 160 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 6: ended a century long dispute. G Gordon Lyddy was pardoned 161 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 6: by Jimmy Carter. Technically, he commuted his sentence from the 162 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 6: Watergate burglary. Jimmy Hoffa was serving a fifteen year sentence 163 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 6: when when President Nixon pardoned him in December of seventy one, 164 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 6: Teamster's leader Eugene Debs. Nineteen twenty one, President Warren harden 165 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 6: Harding pardoned the Socialist Party leader, who had been sentenced 166 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 6: to ten years in prison for an Anni warspeechs it 167 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 6: violated the Espionage Act. Doctor Samuel Mudd, whose name was Mud, 168 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 6: was spared from a life sentence in eighteen sixty nine 169 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 6: for treating Lincoln assassin John Wilkes book Booth for an 170 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 6: injured leg, and finally, President James Buchanan pardoned Brigham Young 171 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 6: for his role in the defeat of the University of 172 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 6: Houston Cougars and keeping Colorado out of the playoffs, which 173 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 6: might have been interesting to see Dion Sanders. Brigham Young 174 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 6: was involved in the Utah War between Mormon fighters and 175 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 6: federal troops in the eighteen fifties and was pardoned by 176 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 6: President Joe Buchanan. There are a number of questions that 177 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 6: are worthy of our conversation. To begin with, why now? 178 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 6: Why a pardon on December second, when Joe Biden will 179 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 6: be president until January twenty First of all, you typically 180 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 6: make a pardon like this as you're walking out the door. 181 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 6: The reason is there's no bandwidth, there's no oxygen in 182 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 6: the room to criticize the pardon because everyone's focused on 183 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 6: the new president. So as the president's walking out the door, 184 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 6: nobody really cares much about the ex president. The sitting 185 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 6: president is soon to be former president, So you make 186 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 6: that pardon and only the most hardcore observers of politics 187 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 6: will pay attention to it. That's why some of those 188 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 6: that happened during your lifetime might have missed your notice 189 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 6: because you were watching for what Rush Limbaugh called the 190 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 6: immaculation of Barack Obama in January of two thousand and nine. 191 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 6: If you make this as you're walking out the door, 192 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 6: you have a number of things distracting from what's going on. 193 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 6: For Joe Biden to make this step now, to do 194 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 6: this now. They did it on a Sunday, which is 195 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 6: a slower newsday, But this will be the top news 196 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 6: story all day long. It's what people are going to 197 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 6: talk about, and hopefully it will be a thing that 198 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 6: is talked about for years to come relentlessly. 199 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 4: It will. 200 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 6: It will burn the image of Democrats as cheaters and 201 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 6: liars into the minds of voters, because they are. But 202 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 6: I think the more important point here is there is 203 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 6: something at play that you do so almost fifty days before. 204 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 6: I will speculate, I don't know this to be true. 205 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 6: One is that the president is so concerned about his 206 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 6: health that he's not sure he'll make fifty days. I 207 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 6: don't think that's saying too much. If you've seen, if 208 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 6: you've seen the man, and you have, at least in 209 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 6: the little glimpses we get. It's also been widely rumored 210 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 6: and there is some detail to back this up that 211 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 6: in Las Vegas earlier this year, in the early summer, 212 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 6: which is kind of what led to the last minute 213 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 6: debate and then him stepping down, that he had a 214 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 6: health episode that was very close to being terminal. I 215 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 6: don't think it's anybody's doubt that he is. He's not 216 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 6: day to day in that he is on hospice, but 217 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 6: he is in extraordinarily poor health. Let's start there. But 218 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 6: it could also be that they expect some sort of 219 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 6: change in the presidency between now and January twentieth. Is 220 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 6: that him stepping down so that Kamala Harris can be president? 221 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 6: I don't know. That's the rumor. That's what I've always 222 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 6: suspected what happened, they would like to coordinate her the 223 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 6: first woman president. I do know that there is a 224 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 6: great deal of rancor between the Harris campaign and Joe Biden, 225 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 6: and particularly Joe Biden, but it's also the case that 226 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 6: they may not be totally in charge of what's going 227 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 6: to happen and what doesn't. I find it odd that 228 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 6: this decision is being announced and made formal on December one, yesterday, 229 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 6: rather than closer to January twentieth. That's simply something to 230 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 6: keep your eye on because it's odd, it's atypical, this 231 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 6: is not how it does how it typically happens. A 232 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 6: number of folks are concerned about Hunter Biden's sex and 233 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 6: drug use, and I would say that those are not 234 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 6: the crimes that should concern us the most. But I'll 235 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 6: also say those are the crimes that made Hunter Biden 236 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 6: the household name and made people care of all the 237 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 6: things that Bill Clinton did wrong to this country during 238 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 6: his presidency. Having sex with an intern, while an immorality, 239 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 6: was not what did the most damaged. It is what 240 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 6: brought him down. But let's talk about what Hunter. 241 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 4: Biden did do. 242 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 8: The intherioist, the butterflies with the Michael Berry, they're all. 243 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 4: Duncans, and you know, duncan means your job. 244 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 6: In the college football game that I have anticipated the 245 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 6: most in a very long time, University of Texas, Longhorns, 246 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 6: feeding Texas A and m Aggie's. And I would say, 247 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 6: in a rather commanding way, a number of friends said 248 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 6: it wasn't a game. Interesting couldn't disagree with me. I 249 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 6: thought that it started off extraordinarily strong. I think the 250 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 6: better team won. I don't think either team played phenomenally 251 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 6: well within their skill set capability, but both teams showed up. 252 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 6: Nobody could say that one or the other didn't show up. 253 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 6: The Aggies were out talented this year, and that's just 254 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 6: a fact. I think that every team other than Georgia 255 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 6: has been out talented that has played the University of Texas, 256 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 6: because this is the best Texas team that I've seen 257 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 6: in going back almost twenty years. This is an extraordinarily, 258 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 6: extraordinarily good team both sides of the ball, and I 259 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 6: think Sark is an offensive genius. So of course you 260 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 6: have the SEC championship and a rematch for the Longhorns. 261 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 6: And I'll tell you what. Going into a rematch like that, 262 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 6: Folks will tell you that it's not an advantage to 263 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 6: have lost the time before, but it sure does give 264 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 6: you one heck of a motivation. It's gonna be it's 265 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 6: gonna be very interesting. I mean very interesting. Indeed, the 266 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 6: sad part for me is that an A and M 267 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 6: win would have sent them to the championship, and a 268 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 6: win there would have lent them to the playoffs and 269 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 6: very likely could have landed them in the playoffs anyway. 270 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 6: So the Aggies are reduced or are removed from the 271 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 6: playoff picture, whereas the University of Texas We're going to 272 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 6: make the playoffs. Either way, I'd, for one like to 273 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 6: see both teams in the playoffs. You don't need to 274 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 6: tell me that because you're an ague you hate the Horns, 275 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 6: or because you're a horn you hate the Aggies. I 276 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 6: got it. That's your thing. Good for you, It's not 277 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 6: my thing. So there we are on that subject. Let's 278 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 6: get to the very issue of what just happened. It's 279 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 6: important to focus on what just happened, and it's never 280 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 6: what's being reported. Joe Biden didn't really pardon Hunter Biden. 281 00:21:51,400 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 6: He really pardoned himself. The language refers to charged in 282 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 6: uncharged crimes. It goes back to May fourteenth, it goes 283 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 6: back to twenty fourteen. Now, what happens in twenty fourteen? 284 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 6: It was in let me just check, I guess it 285 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 6: begins in April of twenty fourteen that Hunter Biden goes 286 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 6: on the board of Barisma. He'd never been to Ukraine before, 287 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 6: and he was placed on the board of a Ukrainian 288 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 6: national oil company with absolutely zero experience in oil or 289 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 6: anything energy related. Never having been to Ukraine, what expertise 290 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 6: did he have, what background did he have. There was 291 00:22:55,880 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 6: nothing that would speak to him being on that board. 292 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 6: But again that was never about. Yeah, January one, twenty 293 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 6: fourteen to December first, twenty twenty four So if Hunter 294 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 6: goes out tomorrow and commits a crime, it doesn't cover that, 295 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 6: although they would issue another pardon before he walked out 296 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 6: the door. It also does not cover state crimes, although 297 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 6: the crimes that Joe Biden is most worried about are 298 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 6: federal crimes. In May of twenty fourteen, while Joe Biden 299 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 6: is Vice President, his son joins the Barisma board. Now, 300 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 6: one of the things, one of the red flags at 301 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 6: the time was that Joe Biden was the vice president 302 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 6: and he was in charge of the Obama Biden administration's 303 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 6: foreign policy in Ukraine, which of course is the only 304 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 6: reason he was placed there. They couldn't give millions of 305 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 6: dollars directly to Joe Biden, so they gave it to 306 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 6: his son. At the time, when criticisms arose the Vice 307 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 6: President's office, Obama pretended not to know, and the Vice 308 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 6: President's office said that the Vice President was so busy 309 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 6: mourning his son bo the son Bow who he has 310 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 6: claimed died in battle didn't, The son who he has 311 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 6: used as an excuse to avoid accountability for most everything. 312 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 6: He's also used this son to claim that he's a 313 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 6: gold star father, as if his son died in battle. Again, 314 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 6: these are lies. The media knew it. They should be 315 00:24:53,520 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 6: career ending lies, but the media chose not to push 316 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 6: this issue. But it's also important to understand that since 317 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 6: it covers January fourteenth through December January first, twenty fourteen 318 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 6: through yesterday, it manages to pick up the two years 319 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 6: that Biden was vice president, and you've got Hunter on 320 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 6: the Ukrainian Oil Company board, which is a kickback to Biden. 321 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 6: It also covers the four years of the Trump administration. 322 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 6: It also covers the four years of the Biden administration. Again, 323 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 6: crimes charged and uncharged. Now they're focusing on the gun crimes. 324 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 6: That's what Biden's folks are. Hey, look, right wing, you 325 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 6: got to understand he got snared in these gun laws. 326 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 6: You understand you could get snared by these gun laws too. 327 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 6: These gun laws they're just they're too complicated, they're just 328 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 6: they're you know, you know, those my buddies, the gun 329 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 6: control nuts. They you know these gun laws, Which isn't 330 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 6: it interesting that the president, who along with Barack Obama, 331 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 6: was pursuing the most extensive gun laws to snare people 332 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 6: like you, then gives a pardon to his son over 333 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 6: the gun laws. Hunter comes out and says, this was 334 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 6: about addiction, and he's an addict. This is not about addiction, 335 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 6: and it's not about guns. This is about I think 336 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 6: that there might because I got nothing going on down there, probably. 337 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 4: Shout out to base your Hunter to roll up anole 338 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 4: and them Congressional his brother. 339 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 8: He was gonna get his laptop fixed, but Hunter got. 340 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 8: He wasn't gonna show off the picks, but Hunter go. 341 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 8: He should have let Hilary Bleach hiss a hard job here. 342 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 8: He wasn't gonna mess with the hoes, but Hunter got high. 343 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 8: He was gonna take him home out on the boat. 344 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 8: But he's the smartest man show ever. 345 00:27:53,680 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 4: Knew in his life. Here got Hunter got Hounter go. 346 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 8: He was gonna go visit his dead, but Hunter got hid. 347 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 8: He thought he had a secret stash, but Hunter guy, 348 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 8: the White House got shut down. We all know why 349 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 8: your hone, God, Honter, he never could pay the Hunter 350 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 8: got hid. 351 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 4: Now he gets a half a million up. Damn, that's high. 352 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 4: But I never used to start, would be you? Why 353 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 4: your hat. 354 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 8: God, Honey hone, Ukraine wasn't part of the plan till 355 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 8: Hunter got high. 356 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 4: Shina wasn't that big of a fan. Till Hunter got 357 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 4: a He wasn't gonna split it all with the old 358 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 4: big guy. 359 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 8: Many to Honter, God, to Honter God, Hunter got high. 360 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 8: He wasn't gonna go to court, but Honter got high. 361 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 8: He never been indicted before, but Hunter, God, his attorney's 362 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 8: out smoking the ball. 363 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 4: And we all know why your Hunter. 364 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 8: Got honor, Honor, He was making eighty g's a month, 365 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 8: but Hounter God. 366 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 4: On a jod brother, I ain't never done. Honor got 367 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 4: He got more ll seised than John Gotti's ex y. 368 00:29:53,120 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 4: Hunter got high, Hunter got high. Hunter his cousin was 369 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 4: never ripped camp. 370 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 8: He had the best friends that money could read. Just 371 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 8: imagine if he wasn't rich, and. 372 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 4: So damn why. 373 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 8: The cost of race House, Live and pound cake. Just 374 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 8: connect his cameras and still his money. 375 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 6: Scott Jennings is one of the bright lights to shine 376 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 6: out of the past year of political coverage. In this campaign, 377 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 6: a number of folks who emerged as influencers of some 378 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 6: sort or another, analysts, talking heads, panelists, future governmental officials, 379 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,959 Speaker 6: book authors, speech givers. I think Scott Jennings probably did 380 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 6: himself more good this year, coming from where he did 381 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 6: to where he is today than any individual in the 382 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 6: public square in the media space. 383 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 4: At least here he is. 384 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 6: Making the point that an eleven year blanket pardon tells 385 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 6: you everything you need to know. 386 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 7: Joe Biden is leaving office making the strongest possible case 387 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 7: for Donald Trump that anybody could possibly make it. And 388 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 7: that's that our government and our justice system is of 389 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 7: by and for the elites and nobody else. He ran 390 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 7: to banish trumpsm from our political system in this country, 391 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 7: and he has left it politically and now institutionally, the 392 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 7: strongest possible political force in this country. It is a 393 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 7: complete and utter failure by the head of the Democratic 394 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 7: Party and the President of the United States. Never again 395 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 7: do I want to hear, Oh, Donald Trump's a liar. 396 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 7: You can't believe anything he says. Donald Trump will abuse 397 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 7: his power. Donald Trump will only use the system to 398 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 7: benefit himself and. 399 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 6: His family, and so on and so forth. Never again, I. 400 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 7: Have one question for Karen, and that is why did 401 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 7: he need an eleven year blanket pardon. Going back to 402 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 7: twenty fourteen when Joe Biden was the Vice president, we 403 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 7: are sitting on the biggest cover up of who knows 404 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 7: what crimes and Joe Biden amazingly knows exactly roughly when 405 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 7: it started. He knows just about when it all started. 406 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 7: He's leading office in complete and total disgrace. He is 407 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 7: a liar and there is no other way to spend 408 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 7: this today. This has nothing to do with Trump and 409 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 7: everything to do with the character of Joe Biden. 410 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 6: They knew all along that Biden would pardon Hunter. And 411 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 6: the reason isn't because he has a record because of 412 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 6: the gun crimes. Now there is an income tax issue 413 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 6: that with Joe Biden outside the White House, without Joe 414 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 6: Biden in control of the Department of Justice, they are 415 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 6: terrified because by all accounts, Hunter Biden should go to prison, 416 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 6: and everybody knows it. The bigger crimes are crimes that 417 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 6: personally benefited Joe Biden, and I think you have to 418 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 6: bifurcate those cases. You have to say, here are the 419 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 6: crimes that Hunter Biden commits, sex crimes, drug crimes, you know, 420 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 6: the numerous things he did that are salacious, that get 421 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 6: people's attention. He knocked up a stripper in DC. She 422 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 6: moves back to Florida. She's living in a trailer. He 423 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 6: denies paternity, right and and that's the sort of thing 424 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 6: that people can There's the drug use that he's that 425 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 6: he that he filmed himself, you know, and he's wearing 426 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 6: his underwear with the feather boa. But the bigger issue 427 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 6: is who's paying for all of this, how much money 428 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 6: is rolling through this and where's it really going because 429 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 6: nobody's hiring Hunter Biden but for his father. Remember the 430 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 6: finger painting he was doing, Remember the art he was. 431 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 6: He became an overnight sensation as an artist. So this 432 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 6: isn't really about pardoning Hunter Biden. This is really Joe 433 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 6: Biden pardoning himself, his wife, and his brother. A pardon 434 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 6: on a scale this big is so so mad. People 435 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 6: have begged for pardons in the past. Remember Lynn Anderson, 436 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 6: I beg your pardon. 437 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 8: I never promised you a rose garden along. 438 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 3: Withy the sunshine. There's gotta feel raised. 439 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 8: Sometimes when you take you gotta. 440 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 3: Give some heaven a heven go whoa I beg your pardon,