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Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Ye show. I mean the
Speaker 1: guy we are the Breakfast Club special guests in the building.
Speaker 1: He's from queens Borough, points right, Virgo and he's late
Speaker 1: always like two weeks late. You just for for week
Speaker 1: after was my feelings. I was like, damn, this is
Speaker 1: my family member, not one of them gonna call you
Speaker 1: like I was like, I thought about let me not
Speaker 1: lose my luck. You know, wis up real quick. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the Na Norri stands for nice guy. Now I noticed
Speaker 1: I saw you on Twitter making up with everybody saying
Speaker 1: happy birthday the Prodigy. You might go too, I said,
Speaker 1: I said, happy birthday, No, happy birthday of the actual information. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw you Niles made up. It's a great thing.
Speaker 1: I didn't know you and na beef to that extent.
Speaker 1: But then when when I when I saw I saw
Speaker 1: the inter of you do a doggy diamond, and then
Speaker 1: I remember, oh yeah, Nas did come up here history.
Speaker 1: It's like like the biggest moment and Paul before the
Speaker 1: breakfastcuse me, excuse me started from the bottom and got him.
Speaker 1: But yeah, um we had seen each other and you
Speaker 1: know whatever, whatever, But just for this this that moment,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how big that moment was, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I love the people that he's rolling with right now,
Speaker 1: Like he's rolling with the new version of Queen's Bridge.
Speaker 1: And these dudes just happened to be like Capone's little
Speaker 1: little man that that grew up to be grown men.
Speaker 1: And they like they're like holding themselves down, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and whatever, So they rappers. Oh, these
Speaker 1: is just dudes from the you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Big Up Left, Big Up Adam. I want to keep
Speaker 1: bicking up everybody because you know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: they want the name. He got the right crew with them,
Speaker 1: and I had see Nas. Nas came to Miami twice
Speaker 1: while I was there. He came to Um cameo and
Speaker 1: I was too drunk, and I see he had like
Speaker 1: like people that I didn't know. I'd rather deal with
Speaker 1: you with hood people. And then I was with Buster Rhymes.
Speaker 1: Me and Buster Um performed that I think the Dolphin
Speaker 1: Stadium or something like that, and then NAS came on
Speaker 1: after and I went in Nads dressing room, and again
Speaker 1: it wasn't nobody from Queensbridge. So I walked out because
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be a funny situation. You understand
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He just walk into his ears dress
Speaker 1: room like no I had just it was. It was
Speaker 1: the backstage I had just performed with Buster, so it
Speaker 1: was only people that was basically artists that was there.
Speaker 1: But I didn't want him to come out of the
Speaker 1: bathroom and just see me and just be like, that's
Speaker 1: an awkward feeling. You know what I'm saying. It would
Speaker 1: be awkward for me if the tables was reverse. So, um,
Speaker 1: I can't. It might get a little emotional, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I can't. So I came to see
Speaker 1: him this time even before you maybe ain't gonna made
Speaker 1: me emotion, made me want to shoot something. You know
Speaker 1: I would happen Drake Brown Liquor and over like ten years,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, the population so um. So
Speaker 1: when I seed him, it messed me up because I
Speaker 1: had only remembered my my wrong doings, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. In the situation, and when he seen him,
Speaker 1: the first thing he said to me was I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: And as a man, I didn't realize how much sorry meant,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like sometimes you be beefing
Speaker 1: with somebody and it's something so simple like that, sorry,
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, forgive you, you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: and we forgive each other, and it was just so
Speaker 1: it was as a man, it was like, it was
Speaker 1: great to see him who he grown to be. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Everybody know, he's the best. He
Speaker 1: might be the best lyrics, he might be the best
Speaker 1: rapper in the world. But the fact is he paid
Speaker 1: attention that. You know, our drama first occurred from his
Speaker 1: wrong doing. And obviously I said sorry too, and we
Speaker 1: just we just um, just like yaller him. He dropped.
Speaker 1: He offered me some heney and I said, it's the
Speaker 1: only thing I'm not gonna do. Let's drink heney, and
Speaker 1: then we drank some rolls and he's he's he It
Speaker 1: was so honorable of him. Man. He looked at me
Speaker 1: and said, Yo smiles though, because um, like I said,
Speaker 1: I just I just didn't want to come around, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying the wrong people, so um right now,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's the perfect time. It's just like Mayweather
Speaker 1: and Pack. Yeah, like they could have fought five years ago,
Speaker 1: but they fight it now. And I think that that
Speaker 1: maybe I needed to grow more, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because I got parts in here that's wrong too, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And um, man, like, did you
Speaker 1: have any questions though, like why why you called my name?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna be honest this is We had
Speaker 1: spoke after that, and we saw each other after that,
Speaker 1: so I don't I don't know what. You know. I
Speaker 1: was young. I was young. It was dumb. It was
Speaker 1: dumb on my behalf. But um, like I said, when
Speaker 1: we seeing each other, he looked at me, he said,
Speaker 1: off smiles, it is better than that. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he answered, I think and he said to me,
Speaker 1: he said to me, let's go to the stage, and um,
Speaker 1: you know live like live is. You know that's that's
Speaker 1: not really a stage. But when we went and we
Speaker 1: got on stage, it was like it was a moment
Speaker 1: of hip hop. The conversation was at the club. Behind
Speaker 1: the initial conversation, Yeah, like, you know what I'm saying, Um,
Speaker 1: I was supposed to get what them and I messed
Speaker 1: around and did something wrong and the people kid and
Speaker 1: that's the only place we could and I was like,
Speaker 1: I just got to get it over with, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because I'm sorry, like Naas was my friend,
Speaker 1: Like I ate in his house before. You can't take
Speaker 1: back something like that, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: then when like I said, when he said that, he
Speaker 1: looked at us and he's like, man, let's go show
Speaker 1: the world. And I ain't know what he meant. So
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna DJ and be like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, look at me and already together,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. Like I thought he's
Speaker 1: gonna do that. He was like put on some music
Speaker 1: and I'm looking I'm like I wasn't we performed the
Speaker 1: hell no, we looked at each other like I ain't ready,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. But it was a
Speaker 1: great moment, and I really like respect who he turned
Speaker 1: out who you know what I'm saying. I ain't see
Speaker 1: him in so long. I wouldn't respect who he turned
Speaker 1: out then, and you know, he was my friend, So
Speaker 1: I'm really like I hung out two days after I
Speaker 1: ain't taking no pictures. We didn't do that. We just
Speaker 1: I was on my left rack. He's in this Queen's Bridge,
Speaker 1: you know, just and it was beautiful. Man, it's a
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. You talk about doing a song together. I
Speaker 1: would never like like envy you my guy, and I
Speaker 1: know that your favorite. But you know why we can't
Speaker 1: do Body in the Trunk part too, because it's time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's true, very true. And it was a moment like
Speaker 1: you can't, we can't, Like I would never try to
Speaker 1: do bad from TV part two, Like you know a
Speaker 1: lot of people have tried. I really wish they would
Speaker 1: stop touching my music, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: because when they get older, when you get when they
Speaker 1: get older and they realize that these young kids are
Speaker 1: touching it and not doing not doing it righteous like
Speaker 1: you can't you know, you can't get on sometimes which
Speaker 1: is a record I dedicated to my father and pun
Speaker 1: and talk about sometimes on the flip bricks and sometimes
Speaker 1: like I don't actually like that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like that was a record for my father, So you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like a lot of people, if
Speaker 1: anybody ever tried to get me on the record, and
Speaker 1: I didn't do it this because they tried to recreate
Speaker 1: one of my records without really showing me the respect.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, Yeah, you know, some
Speaker 1: of these records I don't own. I don't own all
Speaker 1: the publishers, but some of them I own spiritually. It's
Speaker 1: like a person who lives in the hood lived in
Speaker 1: the hood thirty is. They don't own that apartment, but
Speaker 1: they feel like they own that apartment, you know. You
Speaker 1: know what, I'm certain things you just gotta leave alone,
Speaker 1: like a band from TV. I'm not doing the I'm
Speaker 1: not and there's nobody could replace Pun, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, there's nobody that could replace Puns. So
Speaker 1: it's disrespect to even try to attempt that. There's been
Speaker 1: a lot of great Latin rappers after Pun. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but nobody ain't been up. I couldn't think I couldn't
Speaker 1: throw him. You know, I don't know this is a curveball,
Speaker 1: but I think his sons signs Joe crack like that's
Speaker 1: who Pun rhyme Like before Pun got with Joey and
Speaker 1: Joey showed Pun how to make hit records. I don't
Speaker 1: care what everybody. I don't care about, no politics, don't
Speaker 1: don't bring up none of that. To me, that is
Speaker 1: factual evidence. I knew Big Dog Punisher and when he
Speaker 1: got with with Fat Joe, Fat Joe showed that man
Speaker 1: how to make hit records. You know what she's saying,
Speaker 1: punch soun Now it sounds like how punts sound. Pun sound,
Speaker 1: he shout, just sound. He sounds like punning when when
Speaker 1: Punn had no guidance, which is not a disc you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, It's a it's a diamond. A
Speaker 1: diamond is still a diamond. You just gotta polish that more.
Speaker 1: And it's just like you've been here enough to know
Speaker 1: you can't curry. But you know, I'm sorry, sorry, I'm sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: but um but um yeah. I just like Rimby, like
Speaker 1: I hear Remy and I'm like, I feel like pause.
Speaker 1: I think jokes should be behind that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because that chemistry, you just can't buy it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You can't force it neither.
Speaker 1: So as long as they don't force it, I think
Speaker 1: I think I think this is still something there. Do
Speaker 1: you think pun like I think Point is like dumb knife,
Speaker 1: like on the level and it's people hat when I
Speaker 1: say that's been on the level of the Tory's big knife.
Speaker 1: But they never mentioned him with the greats. Only only
Speaker 1: you here mentioned with the greates is Puerto Ricans. That
Speaker 1: was racist. But why do you think that is? Um?
Speaker 1: I don't know you you know you're right, you know um?
Speaker 1: To me, Pun Pun was actually like if you listen
Speaker 1: to his first album, like he rhymes with people like
Speaker 1: black thought because he thought he thought lyrically in that realm.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And I don't think most
Speaker 1: black people get that. If you're not even you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Damn on black am Spanish. So if
Speaker 1: you're not, you know what I'm saying. Like because he was,
Speaker 1: he he didn't want to be Pun didn't want to
Speaker 1: be nice for a Puerto Rican. Pun wanted to be nice.
Speaker 1: That's what like, I'm not rhyming with black thought consciously,
Speaker 1: like if I'm black though a whole loan, let me
Speaker 1: go write something I gotta write, let me take ten days.
Speaker 1: And Pun consciously wanted to let people know like this
Speaker 1: is how nice I am. And sometimes like Pun was
Speaker 1: a backpack rapper. You know what I'm saying without Fat Joe,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, And don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: Like that's that's what I see. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Fat Joe norted to make hit records. To this day,
Speaker 1: you go to Fat Joe, he just he just costly
Speaker 1: want to play your hit record. You're listen, Tori. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like he that's his thing. And
Speaker 1: and um, that's why I think what Pun is, Pun
Speaker 1: is in heart. He was the underground of the underground.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Nacy. You've also been having
Speaker 1: some convers stations with Damon Dash as well. Yes, it's
Speaker 1: pretty weird, ahead pretty weird. I don't know, it's weird.
Speaker 1: That's my man property three. Yeah, Um, stay stopt. I
Speaker 1: hope it happens. Man Um. I first spoke to Beans,
Speaker 1: it was crazy because, um, Dame, I've seen Dame on
Speaker 1: here and I remember that, you know. And I just
Speaker 1: felt like I felt like I older my phone call.
Speaker 1: I didn't know why. I just like it was just
Speaker 1: someone right, I just felt like something someone I wanted
Speaker 1: to say, I love you, like you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know about I don't go that far, but you know,
Speaker 1: I just felt like it felt like, you know, Dame
Speaker 1: did so much things for a lot of rappers indirectly
Speaker 1: and directly that I just felt like I owe him
Speaker 1: a phone call. So I was just like, yo, Dame,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what's going on. And he
Speaker 1: was in good spirits. He put me on the phone
Speaker 1: with three different people are like, hold on, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be doing I was like superholom and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: that's that's that super halo like you know what I man.
Speaker 1: So I'm like and then he and then and then
Speaker 1: he said, yo, I just spoke the beans. And it
Speaker 1: was just like whoa okay, because I thought they had something.
Speaker 1: And we got on the phone and for three days
Speaker 1: straight when we was talking and speaking about Hong Kong
Speaker 1: and let's go over here and let's go over here,
Speaker 1: and it was it was just weird for me because
Speaker 1: if this can happen, this would be a surreal moment,
Speaker 1: this would be real, like but um ill story though
Speaker 1: it has to be because State property too, Like you
Speaker 1: gotta realize, I would have never played in State property too,
Speaker 1: had PD crack and I got locked up. So when
Speaker 1: they presented me with the role, I was like, I
Speaker 1: didn't like it, you know what I'm saying. So I said,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna make me act, if you're gonna make
Speaker 1: me be somebody, you're gonna it's gonna be me. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to act. I want to be me.
Speaker 1: Oh so your role was supposed to be pet Crack.
Speaker 1: My role was supposed to be pet Cracks, and I
Speaker 1: ain't like it. It was pay I like Pedro, that's
Speaker 1: my man, Peter Crack, but don't know, I can't call
Speaker 1: me Paedro. I felt like it was racist, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Every time they said guala they actually
Speaker 1: had Gualac. I was like, yea, this is like what
Speaker 1: you worked for. Help Polo, I was so, but that's
Speaker 1: that's what it was. I changed my name to elpoo
Speaker 1: Loca and I made them write the script to to
Speaker 1: cater to me. And I think as long as I
Speaker 1: think Dame is still powerful enough to pull it off,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I just feel like, um,
Speaker 1: me me him and beans on the phone probably wasn't enough.
Speaker 1: It probably had to be in face because you know, Dame.
Speaker 1: Dame is smarter than me. Let me just what I
Speaker 1: mean by that is, I could do two things at once.
Speaker 1: I can probably roll a blunt and send the text
Speaker 1: as far as I got, as far as I got, okay,
Speaker 1: as far as I This dude is the clothing like
Speaker 1: he's that that's much smarter than me. Like I don't
Speaker 1: Actually I need a B and C Like I'm an
Speaker 1: A B and C dude. When you get to W
Speaker 1: and all that, I get. So I got friends with
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Binger just came home for
Speaker 1: ten years. I need that to help me out. I
Speaker 1: got seven grade education. I know I could, I could.
Speaker 1: I know I'm a smart to a certain extent. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm saying street smart like, but
Speaker 1: I just I think, dam is he gonna get it together.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happen. I mean it was announced
Speaker 1: like it seemed like they announced it like no, I
Speaker 1: mean I was with it. I announced it too. And
Speaker 1: it's just you know, I'm feeling like I'm feeling like
Speaker 1: he's going through you know what I'm saying, what he's
Speaker 1: going through, which I can't speak about. I don't know nothing, Chaddy, Patty,
Speaker 1: we ain't gonna do that. He puts out all the
Speaker 1: business and we ain't gonna be this is my thing.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get y'all this. You ain't gonna be negative Nancy.
Speaker 1: That's the other one, not negative Nancis. People hit me.
Speaker 1: It was like, yo, Nahs, I'm like, what is this about?
Speaker 1: Like if you got for them? I never hit you
Speaker 1: and say that. It was like it's certain people that
Speaker 1: didn't like there's certain people that just they don't They
Speaker 1: just want to be negative about everything. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and negative Nancies. Man, let's watch out for them,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Or could you and Prodigy
Speaker 1: ever be cool? Yo? Listen man, listen man. I never
Speaker 1: and I didn't want speak about because I don't want
Speaker 1: to feel like every time we come up people speak
Speaker 1: about them, but what we do because I just have
Speaker 1: to be real. Listen. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: if you smack me right and I shoot you, I'm
Speaker 1: wronger ruht, I'm wronger for shooting you. But if you
Speaker 1: would have never smacked me, I wouldn't. You would have
Speaker 1: never got shot. I'm glad you use that analogy because
Speaker 1: I've been using this all week Intimore. Right, Okay, if
Speaker 1: somebody smacks you and I think it's about anything, but
Speaker 1: it don't matter how you react. You should have never smacked.
Speaker 1: So I don't understand why he's mad at me. Like
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, you wrote the book and you called me
Speaker 1: and you said, I didn't this you. I felt it.
Speaker 1: I was whatever I said on Twitter that day, I believe,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really erase you, so um, but
Speaker 1: I diffused the statement. When the book came out, you
Speaker 1: got people like Angela and if you were him saying, y'all,
Speaker 1: you know, Norm got beat up in here, and he's like, yeah, no, dude,
Speaker 1: you just took me and said that you didn't mean that.
Speaker 1: And I know the real story, and I won. I
Speaker 1: really won this like this, I was wronger run no
Speaker 1: no no, no, I wasn't wronger running no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I was right or running that whole situation. I'm really right.
Speaker 1: I'm really the righteous. That's why, by the grace of God,
Speaker 1: Like nothing really happened to me, you know, other than
Speaker 1: the jump in and then we got up and we
Speaker 1: got them. But so what I'm saying is by you
Speaker 1: bringing it up, this was some street, this is between us,
Speaker 1: like by you bringing it up and then by me
Speaker 1: capitalizing off of the situation, me being fans of y'all.
Speaker 1: And every time they slipped up, Havoc said this, I'm
Speaker 1: on y'all hills. Let's do it. Call me up, call
Speaker 1: me up. I'm wrong, gonna wrong, but you were wrong.
Speaker 1: Verse when you ever write a book, because a book, right,
Speaker 1: you do, you gotta put everything. You gotta be completely honest.
Speaker 1: I did you got to polygone a couple of times.
Speaker 1: If I have no problem, it's gonna be like project
Speaker 1: book project. Listen. The thing is, the thing is. The
Speaker 1: thing is, I'm gonna tell my history like I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: like what I did or what I heard. And if
Speaker 1: if I say what I heard, I won't put my
Speaker 1: I wonna place myself in that situation. That's my only
Speaker 1: problem with people who do books like that when they say, yo,
Speaker 1: you know we was dead. You know we went to
Speaker 1: go ride and we went to Nah. You wasn't there,
Speaker 1: heard about it? You heard about it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I was there and I let the things go. Now,
Speaker 1: of course, if I shoot at you and you're y'all
Speaker 1: get shot. Your crew members is probably gonna go out.
Speaker 1: You know he was nervous, he was no, but you
Speaker 1: still got popped. You know what I'm saying, I don't
Speaker 1: care like I talked about you gotta talk about the
Speaker 1: whole history because it's very interesting. I know I know
Speaker 1: some of it, and it's interesting. I love the Prodigies book.
Speaker 1: I think prog books should be a move. You know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you the truth. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: the truth. I would No, I'm not gonna read it,
Speaker 1: but um, I was gonna say I'll read it, but
Speaker 1: I probably would. I know. I'm trying to get into
Speaker 1: audio books while you know what I'm saying, like you
Speaker 1: know yaging like that, so I would look into it.
Speaker 1: But my book is gonna be more of my experience,
Speaker 1: not to let take anything away because I don't have
Speaker 1: no beef for Prodigy, like not that kind of I
Speaker 1: kind of hate answering those questions. But I see he's
Speaker 1: mad at me, and he's mad at me because of
Speaker 1: my reaction, and you just got to be a grown man,
Speaker 1: just like we all gotta be a grown man and
Speaker 1: just get over it, But my book is gonna be
Speaker 1: based on my story. I was gonna I was calling it.
Speaker 1: I forget what I was called it. Man, I'm on
Speaker 1: the run. On the run. Jay took my tightle on
Speaker 1: the run maybe super and said a superhead. Oh yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: I'm not in super Head. I avoided that situation. You have.
Speaker 1: You have a dope story, just you the industry and
Speaker 1: how you done something? Make something real quick? Yeah, leaks something.
Speaker 1: I think I told the story before. One time, I'm
Speaker 1: in my basement doing my mixtape. Nori calls me and
Speaker 1: he has a DJ hanging upside down. Yeah, they're torturing
Speaker 1: because the DJ leaked the Nori record and the DJ
Speaker 1: told Nori that I said it was okay to play
Speaker 1: the record. Yo. Yo, he never smoked weed, and they
Speaker 1: got a lot of war stories, says Envy. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask you one time, did you give this guy permission
Speaker 1: to leak this record? Now, if you say you gave
Speaker 1: him permission, I'm gonna let him go. But if you
Speaker 1: say you didn't, we're gonna tear his ass up. I
Speaker 1: said no, I'm gonna be honest. I didn't give permission.
Speaker 1: Or I start hearing this click. But I'm trying to
Speaker 1: I never try to think that pun to who kid
Speaker 1: first or you did it first? I did, so I'm
Speaker 1: right into a put what did you do to the dj? Nah?
Speaker 1: You know at the time, I was screaming at the time,
Speaker 1: you know, we had dropped The War Report and we
Speaker 1: had like eighteen tracks. I'm just giving a zamp, I
Speaker 1: don't know. And on his mixtape he had like eleven
Speaker 1: and I think he was trying to pick us up,
Speaker 1: but he didn't realize that people wasn't buying our album.
Speaker 1: They were going buying your mixtape. They were you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It wasn't even downloads back then, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And you know, to make records
Speaker 1: back then, it was so hard, like to get nas
Speaker 1: in the studio, to get a bust of rhymes in
Speaker 1: the studio. There was no emailing you, there was no
Speaker 1: you had. It was at eight inch rail. You know
Speaker 1: what that looked like, That's look a little weight like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you run around a
Speaker 1: little mitchet, you know what I'm saying. So if you
Speaker 1: get NIS on your record, you get mob deep on
Speaker 1: your record. This this was hard task. So for him
Speaker 1: to just put it the whole thing on the album,
Speaker 1: and like he blamed, He blamed Clue and Envy. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's like, yo, your clue. Me
Speaker 1: and Clue had beef, but you know, I never we
Speaker 1: never spoke about it. We had it like men handled
Speaker 1: like man. Clue was my man. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was one of those things, whichever one of these
Speaker 1: guys that catched for us and getting hung from the roof. No, no,
Speaker 1: no no. He blamed Clue an Envy. But Clue and
Speaker 1: Envy didn't do it. It wasn't on Nyme mixtapes. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That they used it regularly, so
Speaker 1: he he used it in a way where it was disrespect.
Speaker 1: Now what if Mvy said that he did do it?
Speaker 1: Would you have hung him from the basement? I think
Speaker 1: Envy would have told me, Like at the time, Envy
Speaker 1: was actually close. We lived in the way every beginning
Speaker 1: a lot of money. Don't even know me no more?
Speaker 1: He a week, Well you know you did try all
Speaker 1: that money? When I still don't. I still think he's exaggerating.
Speaker 1: I still think that man. Everybody, let me think. Let
Speaker 1: me end myself. So this day, I think it was
Speaker 1: the time me and Clue had beef. When I thought that,
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, they're never gonna mess with me
Speaker 1: on the outside anyway, So maybe I did do that.
Speaker 1: I never denied it. I never denied he was really
Speaker 1: hurt about that. I was hurting when I found out
Speaker 1: he was hurt ten years later, like just random and
Speaker 1: he goes, yo, I used to used to be in
Speaker 1: the same car dropping around. Have a license, I got
Speaker 1: a permit, I'm working, I got a permit. He still
Speaker 1: don't gotta like, yeah, Yo, we're telling him I never
Speaker 1: had record. Said something real the other day though, he
Speaker 1: was like, if you my man, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'll do it for you because you're my man. But
Speaker 1: if you get in the check from the label, let
Speaker 1: me get some of that bread too. Nah. It's true, yo,
Speaker 1: I would be one hundred percent honest. Foxy Brown taught
Speaker 1: me that. One day. Fox she hit me. She was like, um,
Speaker 1: she jumped on my record, and she was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you're gonna give me thirty thousand for it. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that was like the stortion. She was like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna jump on it, but you're gonna give me thirty
Speaker 1: thousan Um No, I don't think it was. I think
Speaker 1: it was um, um nothing rebix Homeboy, I can't remit.
Speaker 1: So I gave up thirty thousand, and then two months
Speaker 1: later she gave me thirty thousand back for a hook.
Speaker 1: So I thought that was on them if you do
Speaker 1: charge me, If I do charge you, I'm gonna charge
Speaker 1: give you that red back. So I thought that was
Speaker 1: a way to hustle. So yeah, yeah, I wondered about
Speaker 1: that Bang Bang record. I don't know, while randomly with
Speaker 1: thinking this is good questions, I have beef with Biggie
Speaker 1: and Junior motherfi them too. I mean after that record
Speaker 1: came out obviously, um the shootout, the shootout, the shootout. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so um, well did we have beep Nah. It was
Speaker 1: really like like, I don't I don't want to call
Speaker 1: her inger because I was calling a Foxy already. So
Speaker 1: you know, Foxy was was a person I considered my
Speaker 1: sister at the time and still dude, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We had we had the studio and she
Speaker 1: had wrote a direct response to Kim, but she wrote
Speaker 1: like seventeen verses like the verse on Bang Bang was
Speaker 1: actually like the I don't know how you call the
Speaker 1: less disrespectful one right let me, she will pop off.
Speaker 1: She will pop up off the mouth in a minute.
Speaker 1: Like she's the one that when you go to the
Speaker 1: club you're gonna get into a fight because she's why
Speaker 1: on the band ain't bang record? Though I guess we were.
Speaker 1: We were like, you know, we were being petty, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Alchemists did to be it's kind
Speaker 1: of down with Marb that he's down mob deep. And
Speaker 1: Foxy walked in the studio was like, yo, give me
Speaker 1: a record to jump on, and when she did it,
Speaker 1: this was this is like the like I said, it
Speaker 1: was the less disrespectful and I didn't know how disrespectful
Speaker 1: it was. I brung it to Puff you know me,
Speaker 1: and Puffa's cool. When Puffs like he was turned up.
Speaker 1: He was like, no, we don't ever lets somebody diss
Speaker 1: me on your record and the mother wanted to diss me.
Speaker 1: You could diss me. I was like, so Puff you
Speaker 1: don't want me use it? He's like, you cool, you
Speaker 1: could use it, like I know a different type of animal,
Speaker 1: like he flipped, don't get me wrong. Puff actually flipped
Speaker 1: on me. He was like, Yo, don't you ever let it?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's when I realized Puffa's gangster way
Speaker 1: before the night and lived with Drake because I was
Speaker 1: there that night too. But let's move on. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about that. I'll go back to that. But um, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was real so so puff Um so I was.
Speaker 1: I didn't really know what she was saying to Kim,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I never met Little Kim.
Speaker 1: To this day, I never grudge you probably still don't
Speaker 1: like against me, and and um we're supposed to do
Speaker 1: the bt sper together and and um um she ain't.
Speaker 1: She ain't saying you've never met little Killer. I've never
Speaker 1: met Little Kim. I've never been in the same room.
Speaker 1: I've been in the same room, but I don't think
Speaker 1: we've ever like I met Big you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And um, and you know Sea season my man, like,
Speaker 1: like that's probably the most embarrassing beef I've ever had
Speaker 1: in him, No junior mafia period, because here I was,
Speaker 1: I used to smoke blunts were Big and and Branson,
Speaker 1: Like I remember one day Branson we went to Branson,
Speaker 1: Red Man and Biggie Smalls. It is behind. They've ben
Speaker 1: serving the weed, Biggie Smalls and Red Man. My dude, look,
Speaker 1: Branson had to go do something and he left these
Speaker 1: dudes with the keys to the week. Branson with the weed. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm not blowing up noting. Everybody knows that. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: and Big and Red Man was in there. They're like, yo,
Speaker 1: they're giving you a lottipossibles up what you want? You
Speaker 1: want to hunt? I'm like yo, Big, like yo, Eddie
Speaker 1: Eddie because I have the dude was running. He's like
Speaker 1: Eddie left out Man, Me and ready doing that. And
Speaker 1: he was back there and me and Big Smoke Wrapper,
Speaker 1: they was wrapping it. Yes, he had the cherry red legs.
Speaker 1: Um the lex are you talking about? It was right outside.
Speaker 1: I guess Big really ain't drop so he's waiting for
Speaker 1: his people to come back. So until they came back,
Speaker 1: he was serving the way. This is a fact. Me
Speaker 1: and Big Side outside Drake Champagne Smoke and for him
Speaker 1: to pass away and for us to have any friction,
Speaker 1: like I should have got on the phone with them
Speaker 1: immediately wants Fox. You know what I'm saying. Let let
Speaker 1: her go and you know, kim, let let it be
Speaker 1: a girl fight. You know what I'm saying, because immediately
Speaker 1: it transpired and I got point a gunshot, they got federal. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what happens. If you see him now, you think you
Speaker 1: would say what's up? He? Would you say something? Sorry? Oh,
Speaker 1: I wasn't there. No, this is facts what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't there. I'm gonna say sorry about you. An I
Speaker 1: wasn't there. I wasn't there. I wasn't there there. I
Speaker 1: was not there. But you were with Puffy. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't see nothing. I didn't see nothing, but what
Speaker 1: I seen was I seen. When Puff walked back into
Speaker 1: the club, like it reminded me of like why I'm
Speaker 1: from New York, you know what I'm saying, Like we
Speaker 1: get on some bulls sometimes it don't matter what it is,
Speaker 1: no matter how much money you got. And I guess
Speaker 1: I guess Puff got it off his chest. And when
Speaker 1: he walked through the list, he's like he's walking through
Speaker 1: those like I'm like sucking. So he was like, you know,
Speaker 1: he was struking over here and every New York like
Speaker 1: me and Fab, Me and Fab. For some reason, me
Speaker 1: and Fab have never really kicked it at all, like
Speaker 1: just it's I don't think it's ever been beef, but
Speaker 1: I felt like it's never been one hundred percent love,
Speaker 1: neither like his people cool with But that night Fab
Speaker 1: grabbed me. I was like, Yo, it's good my brother around.
Speaker 1: I gave him a hug, and it was he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: just in case I'm over here. I was like, bad,
Speaker 1: I'm over here, and that little thing just let me
Speaker 1: know that it was open, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: and then you know, Boss was over here, and then
Speaker 1: Fat Joe was over here, and it was like, that's
Speaker 1: the only time I see New York show. Love is
Speaker 1: out of town. Like you know what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: saying because at the end of the day, even though
Speaker 1: me and Fab, like I don't have his number, he
Speaker 1: don't have my number. There's no way in hell I
Speaker 1: could ever see anybody trying to front on him without
Speaker 1: me trying to get that person right, you know, to
Speaker 1: be having me for each other, just because they don't
Speaker 1: simply walk up to each other and be like yo.
Speaker 1: That's why I like living in Miami, because like if
Speaker 1: I would have maybe approached Nas in New York like
Speaker 1: like I get example, right, one day at one time,
Speaker 1: I stayed in Miami for six eight months, right straight,
Speaker 1: I came back to New York. I'm I walk in
Speaker 1: the club, I'm like, yo, what's up? Yo? Yo? My
Speaker 1: dudes was like if you don't stop smiling, like yo,
Speaker 1: it's winter time and section I'm like, and I'm like
Speaker 1: these these dudes is literally like they're looking at me
Speaker 1: like you chatty patty ass. You're like, I'm like, and
Speaker 1: I'm looking like what did I do? Like they like, yo,
Speaker 1: you take that Miami off. So that's an example. That's
Speaker 1: a mantality like out here, it's like, yo, don't be
Speaker 1: happy even when you happy, like, don't let the next
Speaker 1: man know you're happy. Because it's so many of us
Speaker 1: that somebody would take that as weakness, and it's true,
Speaker 1: but we're not in jail. That's why I like Miami.
Speaker 1: I'm out there like that to hang, hang dance like
Speaker 1: that was at Pro Styles part of the other day
Speaker 1: and everybody was, you know, rappers, everybody was dead. We
Speaker 1: was on one side and I wouldn't go over there
Speaker 1: and speak. I was like, am I going over there? Queen?
Speaker 1: That's how I'm not going over there. And then when
Speaker 1: I when I was leaving, I was like, what's wrong
Speaker 1: with me? Exactly already walking just now? If he ain't
Speaker 1: paying nor no attention? Yeah he was on it, he's on,
Speaker 1: he was on, he was on. I don't know what
Speaker 1: he was on. Be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought
Speaker 1: I was going on. But did you and Dame have
Speaker 1: beef back in the days or no, day before? You
Speaker 1: never met himout? Now that's a lot. You never met
Speaker 1: him before one of y'all salty about not signing that
Speaker 1: rocket full of yall. I just couldn't tell which he
Speaker 1: might have gave you a deal you might have said sorry.
Speaker 1: The first question when I was like, you know, how
Speaker 1: a job meet? I honestly wanted to know. Now, let's
Speaker 1: talk about where it really started from really started from
Speaker 1: Charlotmagne wearing the T shirt and the hat legends said
Speaker 1: Legend and had jay Z's face on it. He wore
Speaker 1: a T shirt that said rock Nation and jay Z,
Speaker 1: so he was kind of sold this sort. I asked,
Speaker 1: how did y'all meet? Because I was really curious, you
Speaker 1: know that in the interview you had that Rock Nation
Speaker 1: had j T shirt. I didn't. I didn't keep that.
Speaker 1: I didn't kitchen from him again. He walked in here
Speaker 1: and the dog barked, and he said, the dog feels
Speaker 1: the bad energy. And that's where it started started. When
Speaker 1: I asked him the question, he was already defensive, so
Speaker 1: you know, you defense him. I go back there. You
Speaker 1: ain't going back then? You know it's too much, Les,
Speaker 1: Why are you like fer I ain't gonna lie. I
Speaker 1: feel like you were getting along with Fero, Like I
Speaker 1: kid you, I don't think so much for me why
Speaker 1: I don't know nothing about that, But you know, did
Speaker 1: they real cool dudes? I was like certain, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's a rumor like Sticky like it's a rumor about
Speaker 1: you somewhere that people is like your Charlemagne goes at people.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's absolutely not with me, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I gotta judge. Like it's a lot
Speaker 1: of friends that I have that people say, hey, that
Speaker 1: friend is a scumbag. Okay, it's not a scumbag with me.
Speaker 1: So I have to judge this person based upon how
Speaker 1: they treat me, you know what I'm saying. And that's
Speaker 1: just what it is. So like having on this conversation.
Speaker 1: You know I love it too, man, Like I just
Speaker 1: told these people. Man, I listen, man, I'm thirty seven
Speaker 1: years old. I sat on my balls the other day.
Speaker 1: It's real. I know I'm getting old, like y'all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that's real. That's really like. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying this is listen. No, I ain't got no graves.
Speaker 1: God that means what that means just gonna drop when
Speaker 1: you get a certain age grabbing the app. It's the
Speaker 1: app called no how old he look? Yeah, I ain't
Speaker 1: like that. I ain't want to be on there. I
Speaker 1: got my password on sign up. Oh yeah. But so
Speaker 1: you know, I'm still working with the Good Belt Gang.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Hopefully me and Mike Kaiser
Speaker 1: is gonna get together to sit down. That's what That's
Speaker 1: my next maneuver is I really want to be a CEO.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. More, I'm gonna always rap
Speaker 1: because that's it's not even a hobby, excuse me, a hobby.
Speaker 1: It's it's something that I use as a vehicle. That's therapeutic,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I don't jog anymore
Speaker 1: to lose weight weight. But I don't do it to
Speaker 1: lose weight. I do it simply because it's therapeutic to me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know, I like jogging
Speaker 1: for that same reason. It's the only time I think.
Speaker 1: And I don't have my phone with me. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have my phone. I have my headphones in there, and
Speaker 1: I would not play no music. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's just it's therapeutic to me. And that's what music is.
Speaker 1: Making music is actually a therapy for me, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So but right now, like I feel
Speaker 1: like I have to take this next step into my
Speaker 1: into this life. I want to say. Man, and my
Speaker 1: cousin is talking about sitting down right now. You know
Speaker 1: a couple of other people, but you know, not to
Speaker 1: throw it out to all these millions, but you know,
Speaker 1: I'd rather work with somebody that I know. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like I was there with Mike Kayser
Speaker 1: smoked dust. You know what I'm saying. I was there.
Speaker 1: What wh he went blind? That's why I don't know
Speaker 1: smoke no other don't smoke around method, man, I bet
Speaker 1: he run out of the room. Okay, smoke around method Man.
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm not gonna lie. One of my
Speaker 1: friends smoked after Method Man in the video shoot one
Speaker 1: day and she started having seizures. And I don't want
Speaker 1: this to seem like I just said Math is doing
Speaker 1: some crazy. I'm saying so back in the days Methods
Speaker 1: was doing it. He was like, you watch me catch
Speaker 1: Mike Kaiser and then caught my guys when he put
Speaker 1: one blunt in the sleeping front of the mother's and
Speaker 1: I forgot the other dude, what's the actor? Dude? They was,
Speaker 1: they were smoked, They was playing the guitar. It was weird.
Speaker 1: He passed away. I want to say, but Yoba, but
Speaker 1: that's not it. I'm gone, I forget, I forget, I forget.
Speaker 1: He just went, I'm doing the fat dude with the dress.
Speaker 1: They can't arrest do what I'm staying, me up, me up.
Speaker 1: But I was saying, I'm stay in smooth. I was
Speaker 1: trying to stay smooth. Listen, I got I get offered
Speaker 1: reality shows. Every the closest one, the closest one I
Speaker 1: was coming to was a couples therapy. What they actually
Speaker 1: hit me and the reason why I said, I said,
Speaker 1: ghost faces of respectful dude. Dr Max's respectful to Chi
Speaker 1: Chinger was on it. Yeah it was. Oh, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. I didn't do my math on that. Those
Speaker 1: was in my lesson. Yeah, trash, you never study Chicken.
Speaker 1: Ain't stay my chicken, my ching you one ten? Uh.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was close. I'm close. I mean I
Speaker 1: don't know, because one, I love my wife. I just
Speaker 1: want to know how to love them more. Okay, you
Speaker 1: know what, I got a record dropping produced by DJ Mustard,
Speaker 1: Todd Dollars Signs, Rick Ross, and my boy City boyd
Speaker 1: on there. CNN actually has an album that's dropping June,
Speaker 1: not June sixteenth, the week after June sixteen. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: send you sound like a reach for radio. See that's
Speaker 1: the thing about it. When I did tied out. When
Speaker 1: I did tied out, which is the joint with me
Speaker 1: French push your two chasing right, I felt like that.
Speaker 1: I felt like I was compmising who I was radio.
Speaker 1: You felt not a reach for radio, but to reach
Speaker 1: for that sound. And when I listened to tild it
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like me. So todd Ola signs. I've been
Speaker 1: working with Todd Olds for like two years right before UMP.
Speaker 1: We work with tid dollar signs and todd dollar signs.
Speaker 1: Um he he hated to a record that was just
Speaker 1: for me, and when he gave it to me, I
Speaker 1: felt I took my time. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool, alright,
Speaker 1: alright cool. So um so I mean this to make
Speaker 1: a long story short. This record sounds like me. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Um Me and Pharrell again. I
Speaker 1: try to take Phararell to another um atmosphere because you know,
Speaker 1: we recently did a record and um we had to
Speaker 1: join thing Lord Boy Standing Screaming Lord the Ak Screaming Law.
Speaker 1: At the same time he got happy out, I knew
Speaker 1: they wasn't gonna clear the record. You got the biggest
Speaker 1: and I told him, I said, stupid for being you
Speaker 1: to do gangs the records like you got all these
Speaker 1: girls following you. I wanted like a two percent of that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I gotta stop making gangster music. I
Speaker 1: am tired of having. Like I had a birthday party
Speaker 1: last year. Do some a story. I came to see
Speaker 1: me through some queen's bride came to see me due
Speaker 1: from Ravenswood through some left Frack forty projects and nobody
Speaker 1: said nothing to each other, Like everybody is just in
Speaker 1: the room, like what's up? Nor It's cool? And I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: they couldn't walk over to my section. I couldn't walk
Speaker 1: over to another section. And I said, this reflects my music.
Speaker 1: Carris once said a long time, watch what you say,
Speaker 1: because you attracted. I need to stop. I am too
Speaker 1: old for a trn y. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm too old for another y'all don't want to. But
Speaker 1: on my solo career, I'm going for the broads. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If I if I care, if
Speaker 1: I still make it joints, I'm going for the because man,
Speaker 1: it's it's just it's too many guys who come to
Speaker 1: my shows, man, and it's just terrible. Like I've been
Speaker 1: grown up. It's just my crowd ain't grown with me.
Speaker 1: My crowd wanted me to be ignorant. Like It's like
Speaker 1: when I posted a picture, I post a picture with Nas,
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, oh yeah, I posted a picture with Wayne.
Speaker 1: People were like, man, Wayne, you ain't supposed to be sitting.
Speaker 1: Wayne was on my Wayne was the first feature you
Speaker 1: ever heard Wayne was on the things. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. For real, I had the whole cash money
Speaker 1: be you know what I'm saying. I had, I paid Baby,
Speaker 1: and then the next time Baby came and I hired them,
Speaker 1: Baby said play boy. This on me. Play boys. When
Speaker 1: Baby was that dude, that's when he was that, That's
Speaker 1: what name was. Baby wasn't even when his baby, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Now he that he that he's
Speaker 1: still that dude. But you know, God blessed the situation. Man.
Speaker 1: That's that's one of the funniest, weirdest things. I had
Speaker 1: never seen this. Like, if you tell me Tupac was
Speaker 1: leaving death Row, I could say maybe I saw it,
Speaker 1: Like I never like people. There's there's no rumor Upun
Speaker 1: wanting to leave terror squad. So these stories, I don't
Speaker 1: know where these stories come from. But you know this situation, man,
Speaker 1: I want to say, God bless them both. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because it's a weird situation right now. Man,
Speaker 1: you know mac Maine and Bird and see Low and
Speaker 1: Wayne uh and and Cortez and all y'all. I hope
Speaker 1: they work it out. You know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: not really my position to speak on, but I have
Speaker 1: to watch because it's on my TV. But um, god
Speaker 1: bless him. Brother. I do feel like you don't get
Speaker 1: enough credit for a lot of things you stamped because
Speaker 1: I remember you jumped on Pastor Troy. We ran as
Speaker 1: Troy be ready, Yo, the slime is me, Yeah, slime
Speaker 1: is me, Um, Pastor Troy. I went to North Carolina.
Speaker 1: I performed a Pastor Troy. He performed twenty minutes one
Speaker 1: record and by no way, shape or former fashion was
Speaker 1: that whack man I'm talking about love. I was like, yo, buddy,
Speaker 1: I'll pay you to get on your record. He was like,
Speaker 1: you know who I am. I was like, yeo, I'll
Speaker 1: go to your shows all the time. David Banner, I
Speaker 1: was the first one to work with David Banner. I
Speaker 1: was the first one. Everybody used to think the South
Speaker 1: was corny. Like I remember Outcast called me to come
Speaker 1: with them to the tunnel. You know what I'm saying, Well,
Speaker 1: big boy did. I never had andre number, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But Big Boy called me to come
Speaker 1: hang with me at the tunnel. Like he didn't say
Speaker 1: he's scared, but he didn't feel comfortable. Going by itself.
Speaker 1: I came with them and I was the dude that
Speaker 1: hung out in the strip club. Because we gotta remember,
Speaker 1: back in the days in New York, if you went
Speaker 1: to a strip club, you was a lamee. You was like,
Speaker 1: it was like a sucker. It was really no strip club.
Speaker 1: There was no strip It was like scores, like the
Speaker 1: white the white, white white clubs. And then it was
Speaker 1: like the Sopranos, by the by the Bingu I think
Speaker 1: was sues and no, but suits even came later. So
Speaker 1: then when ice Cube came out with Players Club, there
Speaker 1: was an actual Players Club in Atlanta, and I used
Speaker 1: to go hang out to it, and people like my
Speaker 1: New York dudes, was like, this ain't really that bad,
Speaker 1: like you know, you're thinking that this is some corner.
Speaker 1: And then we started going to strip club and I
Speaker 1: started to embrace a crooked cooked cooked was a crooking letters,
Speaker 1: cook letters. I started to embrace a juvenile like I'm
Speaker 1: the one who came and I went to Ansie Martinez
Speaker 1: and I was like be high, no, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: And people was like, yo, what are you singing? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? People was like, because I ain't
Speaker 1: know nothing though you thought you didn't know what future
Speaker 1: was saying. I ain't know when nothing Julie was saying,
Speaker 1: but I knew it. I was like hit, I was
Speaker 1: like huh, Like yo, yo, this dude, Norma is on prozac.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But and I was embracing
Speaker 1: these coaches, and I knew the South would be as
Speaker 1: powerful that it's gonna be because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, New York can't go against the whole coast.
Speaker 1: You understand, I'm saying, Philly, Philly, d c Va, Va Va.
Speaker 1: You still East Coast, my brother, but they claim the South,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So well, like as as
Speaker 1: East Coast, we would all have to show unity in
Speaker 1: order to compete with them. I'm not saying go against them.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, just to compete with them, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You gotta think about how big the
Speaker 1: South is. You know what I'm saying. It's been weird
Speaker 1: because you gotta interested now. I remember, even back in
Speaker 1: twenty ten, I wasn't even working on a radio. You
Speaker 1: hit me like, yeah, I want you to marry my album?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean I like see, that's why I said,
Speaker 1: but I said, Dame thinks faster than me, because Dame,
Speaker 1: because I think fast. But Dame could do five different
Speaker 1: things at once. I can't. I can do five different things,
Speaker 1: but two of them is gonna come out great, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you gotta you gotta embed
Speaker 1: the team, and you also gotta make so just into bosses,
Speaker 1: like everybody can't be a boss. That's my man, Dame,
Speaker 1: I love him, but everybody, if we're all bosses, will
Speaker 1: never roll a blunt, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: you'll feel like she's supposed to roll a blunt. He
Speaker 1: supposed to blunt. So we'll sit here, won't be high.
Speaker 1: Nobody what I'm saying, smoke. So there's there is positions
Speaker 1: in the places, and that's just really we're really what
Speaker 1: I want to do. That's what I'm doing with the
Speaker 1: Good Bell Gang. I want to I want to see
Speaker 1: this new talent, you know what I'm saying, And like
Speaker 1: like Swiss Swiss, I had Swiss early pause, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That sounded wrong, came out as it
Speaker 1: came out. Scott Scott Starts. We worked on the Firm
Speaker 1: album and Scott Stortz was out there. I seen him,
Speaker 1: was the ghost producer of Dre. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So when he left Dre and he told me, I'm
Speaker 1: selling this beat for this amount, it was no problem
Speaker 1: for me doing it because I had the foresight te
Speaker 1: paying A knew, I knew Team James. They don't do
Speaker 1: his own beach by the way, who you just said,
Speaker 1: well and not then? Not then? Not in my bed,
Speaker 1: in my face. When I was out there doing the
Speaker 1: Firm album at that time, it was Scott and it
Speaker 1: was mail Man, you know what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 1: one of Drey's managers, Yo, how much would it be
Speaker 1: to get a Dre beat? And it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: like I ain't had no budget back then. They was like,
Speaker 1: just I'll tell you what to do. Just hire um
Speaker 1: Scott and hire mail Man and you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and you'll get the beats or whatever. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: that's I had to foresight to see a lot of
Speaker 1: you know, people paying is great. That's why I want
Speaker 1: to be a At the end of the day, if
Speaker 1: being Kaiser, listen, Kaiser, if you don't hire the good
Speaker 1: Belt Gang, you know, that's the next thing I want
Speaker 1: to do is I want to I want to learn
Speaker 1: the music business because I it's like it's like being
Speaker 1: a street smart, all right, but now let's let's be
Speaker 1: book smart, you know what I'm saying. So I would
Speaker 1: love to be behind the desk and learn the industry
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, I know radio.
Speaker 1: But if you ask me, you know what's um the
Speaker 1: letter hads for for for for power one or five,
Speaker 1: I won't know it was call letters. I'm there, but
Speaker 1: I ain't fully there. I'm that I think you know
Speaker 1: because even you know with your records, and I always
Speaker 1: used to tell you that I just felt like if
Speaker 1: you were wasn't on no disrepect the penalty, if you
Speaker 1: wasn't on penalty back then, I think you'd have been
Speaker 1: a big, bigger honist because like when that's why def
Speaker 1: jam came. But I love my life with the all
Speaker 1: times that could have been a smack a lot of
Speaker 1: dis records that you have, even body and the trunk.
Speaker 1: Back then, everybody loved it, but I just didn't think
Speaker 1: they took you to that far until you got to
Speaker 1: know nothing nothing that's death jam. So what happened was um,
Speaker 1: like my favorite CEOs in this business is Leo Cones,
Speaker 1: Kevin Lyles, Julie Greenwall, Todd Mosk and miss and Randy
Speaker 1: Aker and Rob Love and listen when those that chemistry
Speaker 1: when they were together, that was my favorite. Like I
Speaker 1: was so they used to come to me. They's like, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you who, but they listening. Jay
Speaker 1: and Ja Rule and DMX. They get the four million
Speaker 1: dollar budgets and they get the three million dollar budgets
Speaker 1: and you guys, you don't get that, but we're gonna
Speaker 1: put you on tour for three years. And it's like
Speaker 1: I actually learned how to do shows on death Jam.
Speaker 1: Like you can't yo. You ever try to perform after
Speaker 1: Red Man? Impossible? This guy? Is you ever tried to?
Speaker 1: You ever tried to? Like method Man? Let me tell
Speaker 1: you something, method Man. It's the like me and Mephos
Speaker 1: on tour. We was on tour and Math kept wanted
Speaker 1: to bring um. He was the host of the tour,
Speaker 1: so he kept me back. I said, so every he
Speaker 1: on the tour with Keith married. This is my first
Speaker 1: argument with method Man. But first and the only argument
Speaker 1: with method Man. Methy Man is on the bus to
Speaker 1: keep married, right, and we're going on tour every night
Speaker 1: and he's hosting, so in between acts, he's hosting this. Dude,
Speaker 1: want to do right before I come out? I came
Speaker 1: to bring the pain. We got to stop this right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to? You want to bus? We keep marrying
Speaker 1: My dude, you perform after him? Before him? You can't.
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm not do performing at the p my dude.
Speaker 1: You just gotta let that stage calm down. You gotta
Speaker 1: look at you know why Meth don't kid, he's gonna
Speaker 1: he's gonna. He's gonna white and sweat and swap it
Speaker 1: to the white boy, and the white boy gonna look it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, whoa gang? You can't do
Speaker 1: You can't do it? Do this? Who you can't mote
Speaker 1: bomb after that? You know what I'm saying to my
Speaker 1: only time he ever had an argument, I was like
Speaker 1: a math, Please, you cannot do that before me. Man,
Speaker 1: You're still in the crowd. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But my point of bringing that up is Death Jam
Speaker 1: showed you how to do how to do um shows.
Speaker 1: And not only that, they made you work your record
Speaker 1: like Jay and Jah and d and Al when I
Speaker 1: was on Death Jam, they came out and they fully
Speaker 1: spent the budget on them immediately Boom but Me method Man,
Speaker 1: Keith Murray, UH Freeway Cameron so so to speak, we
Speaker 1: were like the B Squad, but they sent us on
Speaker 1: Talk for the for the whole year. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Me and M did up paid and fall
Speaker 1: Tall for like two three months. You're on the straight.
Speaker 1: We got an album dropping, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I just you know, swant poem will come out a
Speaker 1: little bit more, you know what I'm saying. And and
Speaker 1: and that's really it. And the freestyle you know the
Speaker 1: freestyles that come out every Friday. Yes, I'm waiting for y'all.
Speaker 1: Know we're dropping a Blend tape. Um, we're dropping a
Speaker 1: Blend tape. We're gonna do something different. We're doing a
Speaker 1: Blend tape, actual blends. Big up the djook butch Rock
Speaker 1: Um that's our actual DJ. And we we we flipped
Speaker 1: all the old school joints. I believe we inspired it
Speaker 1: because we threw out a little bit of love. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you got that. All of the beat nuts,
Speaker 1: beat Um and uh a chick singing over it. So
Speaker 1: I'm loving with Fabist doing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm loving with Jada is doing, and um, New York
Speaker 1: were trying to we're trying to. I don't say, I
Speaker 1: don't want to say bring it back, and said, we're
Speaker 1: bringing it forward. We're bringing it forward, and we gotta
Speaker 1: we gotta support each other more like at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, to love that I see from New
Speaker 1: York artists in Miami or not just in Miami, just
Speaker 1: when you're out of town, you're a little bit more comfortable.
Speaker 1: If we could start doing that and support each other
Speaker 1: and get a good even as the station wars and
Speaker 1: you know, like you're hearing you gotta give them the
Speaker 1: record of you, or you get or you give y'all
Speaker 1: the record and this, and it's it's corny. Like at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, we ain't bloods and crips, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, even the bloods and cryps
Speaker 1: is together, standing together and boredom on. We can't do
Speaker 1: that in music, you know what I'm saying, Like, we're gonna,
Speaker 1: we're gonna, We're gonna die if we don't help each
Speaker 1: other at some point, you know, what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: it's cool. But if you see an artist he ain't
Speaker 1: got a hit record in two years, something's wrong, or
Speaker 1: he ain't out there trying, something's wrong. Reach out say
Speaker 1: what's up? You know what I'm saying, Like I call people, yo,
Speaker 1: what's up? What's going on now? Charlomagne always talks about this.
Speaker 1: I say as well. And once you get older in
Speaker 1: hip hop, it seems like people they don't want to
Speaker 1: with you no more. That's messed up. That's it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Because Rolling Stones could go on, Toll and Ebony and
Speaker 1: Ivory and all these people. Like in any genre of music,
Speaker 1: people can continue to tour, people can continue to get money.
Speaker 1: E forty is my og, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But he got the he got the he got, Look
Speaker 1: what he got. To be real quiet about out his
Speaker 1: age and be real like you don't never hit. Really
Speaker 1: hear him say that, and that's not right. Like Ray
Speaker 1: Kwan should be you know what I'm saying, should be
Speaker 1: proud of his age. He forty should be proud of
Speaker 1: his age and so on and so forth. But it
Speaker 1: should be a market for that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I remember at one point, Deaf Jam had Death Soul,
Speaker 1: which meant it was the old goodies, you know, it
Speaker 1: was the Aretha Franklins and all that. Like why hip hop,
Speaker 1: like Chuck d Like I ain't gonna front the other day.
Speaker 1: I forget who had who had a were lived in
Speaker 1: a crazy era, you know what I'm saying, Like, um,
Speaker 1: I forget. I think it was a Red Man or
Speaker 1: or somebody had a party and to Harry had a
Speaker 1: party right next to them, and to Harry's party was packed.
Speaker 1: And it's great because to Harry has a market, But
Speaker 1: you mean to tell me that, like, where is that
Speaker 1: market for the older people who's been out, who still
Speaker 1: got hit records? Red Man got a You see Red
Speaker 1: Man perform, You're gonna be there for an hour and
Speaker 1: a half. Sad, damn damn it. Look how many these
Speaker 1: things he got and to think about are it's not
Speaker 1: it's not just hip hop. It's not just hip hop.
Speaker 1: When you're the old dude in the hood, they want
Speaker 1: to kick you out, Like if you shot some body
Speaker 1: your whole career, your whole life, and then you become forty,
Speaker 1: they tell they don't say he's forty's he's he's chilling.
Speaker 1: They say, oh he's but because he ain't, you ain't shooting,
Speaker 1: And that's that's our mentality. I think they respect you
Speaker 1: when you still like when you're popping though, like and
Speaker 1: you're successful, Like they could look at him and be like,
Speaker 1: I know they're still doing it thing he got chips
Speaker 1: from back when they when you successful, they still respect
Speaker 1: you because nobody looks at Diddy and be like, you
Speaker 1: gotta think about it, like I think a part of
Speaker 1: me for you, you gotta think about it. Rick Ross
Speaker 1: is older than me, you know what I'm saying. Kanye
Speaker 1: West is older than me. Push It is older than me.
Speaker 1: But they came out before me, so you can look
Speaker 1: at it like I'm not old. I mean after me,
Speaker 1: after me, so you can look at at me and
Speaker 1: I'm the old. Or I could just look at me
Speaker 1: like I got I was getting money longer. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I got on longer. But to these
Speaker 1: average kids, I'm nine hundred years old. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Because I came out in nineteen ninety seven,
Speaker 1: I can't I gotta tape. I got on it. I
Speaker 1: could set. I got a album with vinyl on it
Speaker 1: and these kids, really they think it was a clothing necessary.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, these kids buy vinyl
Speaker 1: and it's like, No, at one point there was real
Speaker 1: DJs who actually took you had to bring your crates
Speaker 1: to the show, young guy. And they don't understand this.
Speaker 1: They're looking at me like, oh, yeah, I bought the vinyls.
Speaker 1: You looked by my laptop. No. I come from the
Speaker 1: dinosaur stages. But the thing about it, I can still
Speaker 1: work with Rick Ross, I can still speak to the
Speaker 1: little Wayne. I can still make jokes with with two Change.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because I told two Chase
Speaker 1: I'm a body him on the record. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But why they act like we can't get
Speaker 1: better with age, That's what we're saying. Human beings put
Speaker 1: value on everything except for us. It's at we supposed
Speaker 1: to get better with time. And you know, you know what,
Speaker 1: But that's why Jay and Nas and not somebody said that,
Speaker 1: but but that's Jay and Nas is a great example
Speaker 1: of that. And now I got to be more of that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Now, it can't just be
Speaker 1: just them, Okay, they're the upper antrelant that's who made it.
Speaker 1: That's who whatever. They're still looking young, They staying in
Speaker 1: the gym, they juice in, they doing whatever they gotta do.
Speaker 1: All right, they gotta be others and I ain't not
Speaker 1: just money. You gotta stay relevant. You gotta stay relevant,
Speaker 1: like listen, dude relevant. I love car Hearts, but I
Speaker 1: know if I walk in and right now and amigo,
Speaker 1: show what car Hearts on, I'm the corny dude. Right
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Oh, you might make them young, yo, that flyer.
Speaker 1: But see, that's what see. I'm gonna do it to
Speaker 1: a certain state. I'm gonna be me to a certain state.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be me where I offend the new
Speaker 1: generation because at the end of the day, I know this.
Speaker 1: When they talk about classic hip hop and yo, I
Speaker 1: was around when BIG's album first came. I was around
Speaker 1: when Mob Deep's album first came. I was around when
Speaker 1: Seeing in his album first dropping I'll Matter It was
Speaker 1: mixed reviews. They didn't instantly say that was a classic. Yo.
Speaker 1: When the War Report came out, I was still selling
Speaker 1: crack on ninety seven Dash thirty fifty seventh Avenue. I
Speaker 1: Cannelly came up to me he had put it in
Speaker 1: your mouth and I can nelly see me make a sell.
Speaker 1: And I jumped out of his car and he grabbed
Speaker 1: me and he said, you to just pay attention and
Speaker 1: he listened to every car that rolled by in the hood.
Speaker 1: In the hood was playing the War report. I didn't
Speaker 1: know how to get to the money, I said. He said,
Speaker 1: how much crack you had on you? I had a
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars pack. He said, give it to give
Speaker 1: me five hundred dollars and said, give me the crack,
Speaker 1: took it and threw it away. Did you see him
Speaker 1: throw it away? Yeah? No, no. I flipped on him.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, watch you throw it away and said
Speaker 1: I paid for it? Would you care about? And he
Speaker 1: brought me on tour after that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He brought me on tour after that and and taught that.
Speaker 1: See these young kids right now, they just you could
Speaker 1: get hot and there's no respect. There's no artist development.
Speaker 1: That's why you have so many one hit wonders, right.
Speaker 1: But you know what too, But like you said, there's
Speaker 1: nobody teaching him, Like you know, that's what I want
Speaker 1: to be. I want to be artist development. But um,
Speaker 1: so um. Like I said, man, you know, we're still
Speaker 1: promoting the good Bell game, City boyd sign A Graham
Speaker 1: tweets Moneyming Coca Young Willy the don You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Um, my man, Chimbe just came home after
Speaker 1: ten years. He's standing you home, my brother. You can
Speaker 1: you can unfold your arms? Got that fresh? Yeah. I
Speaker 1: put him on the phone with you when he was
Speaker 1: in jail. He was going down, baby, come home, baby.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Because my man sick and
Speaker 1: like I said, we really I just really want to
Speaker 1: be executive. I really want to um bug out. I
Speaker 1: would like to do a reality show. But something that
Speaker 1: makes our culture proud. No gonna make that happen, make
Speaker 1: our culture proud instead of making our like you know,
Speaker 1: give or take some Monday nights, I'll be sitting there
Speaker 1: like Diablo B. It's a little crazy. It's a little
Speaker 1: crazy for me. It's little crazy for my taste, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I feel like that's what
Speaker 1: they have. But they got to be a show to
Speaker 1: to to to um to to talk to respectful people.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And it makes sense. That
Speaker 1: makes sense for me because I ain't gonna lie. I
Speaker 1: couldn't do no reality show with any woman threatened my right.
Speaker 1: Oh I get it. I love right. You know what
Speaker 1: I tell you. One thing, Nori, every time you come here,
Speaker 1: you're here over sixty minutes. I never feel like it
Speaker 1: never feels like annual thing. Though listen, I did and
Speaker 1: I did come early. Like I listen, I can't heat
Speaker 1: as far as being actual here, but I was sah,
Speaker 1: I was earlier smoking a cigarette. No, I wasn't smoking
Speaker 1: a cigarette. I forgot to give us the vapor. Look,
Speaker 1: oh my god, thank you, thank you for thinking it
Speaker 1: was a cigarette. It was crime, but thank you for
Speaker 1: thinking it was a cigarette. This is my new venture.
Speaker 1: I'm Morris hustling. Um. I got is uh Nori shorts.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I know, I know you don't smoke,
Speaker 1: but it's like like a hookah just in case you
Speaker 1: want to smoke hook like look a little bit okay,
Speaker 1: So look, you know we got y'all. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But listen, man, thank y'all for having me.
Speaker 1: Like the Nori shorts. We got the Blend tape coming
Speaker 1: out May ninth, and then CNN album dropping the sixteenth
Speaker 1: after I don't know June, and then I'm dropping the
Speaker 1: Rick Ross topped out of signed DJ Mustard record and
Speaker 1: the whole good belt. And we also got to sign
Speaker 1: a grand record feature in fat Trail keeping in the
Speaker 1: DC because I'm sinograms from DC and Fatril signograms from
Speaker 1: bartom all excuse me, and Fatchril from DC. So we
Speaker 1: got that whole thing going. I got my boy tweets
Speaker 1: dropping um Mouth's defeat and um We're gonna just have
Speaker 1: fun this summer. Nor East came late, but it was
Speaker 1: worth its absolutely and we appreciate you joining us as always.
Speaker 1: Thank you, and I appreciate my call. Let me want
Speaker 1: to know while Noria texts me in the morning, Yes
Speaker 1: I will. I do. I try to detect you while
Speaker 1: you on the air because I am a fan of
Speaker 1: the show. I really wake up and listen to this show.
Speaker 1: We don't text me no more because we're not We're
Speaker 1: not in no challenge together no more. You know why?
Speaker 1: You know what it is? I see, I see, I
Speaker 1: went to it. I was in a UM, I was
Speaker 1: in a m I was in the party with Hole
Speaker 1: right and somebody asks Hole for his number and he
Speaker 1: curved him crazy. I cannot ask. I cannot ask for
Speaker 1: famous person, but they number no more. Like I see
Speaker 1: somebody come up to Hold and it just like and
Speaker 1: Hold was like, we're not gonna do that, play boy
Speaker 1: hold up his number and he said small. He was like,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna do that, playboy. I pull out my phone.
Speaker 1: I gotta give it to everybody and everybody. I like,
Speaker 1: I can't ask the industry dude, Like I'm like, like
Speaker 1: I can said, it's the OG, Like he don't called
Speaker 1: me if it's a good interview, He'll tell me if
Speaker 1: it's bad interview, will tell me no matter what is,
Speaker 1: he's og. He's the one that can say whatever you
Speaker 1: want to you and you don't get offended. Right, you know,
Speaker 1: I watched all your interviews. Man, I watch you're doing
Speaker 1: a great job. I've seen it from the beginning until now.
Speaker 1: Saying that you're a great job. Scar Face was probably
Speaker 1: the most hilarious one we have. Getting up. He kept
Speaker 1: doing this and I say, Yo, he's at the real
Speaker 1: scar face Like that's like he's really he's really that
Speaker 1: funny bro. Look at Jamie fox Yo, what's up with
Speaker 1: Will Smith? Jamie FOXX got a wall full of hairlines
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely but yo once again man
Speaker 1: as the preface club you boy and a hit us up.
Speaker 1: It's going down. I always