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Speaker 1: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him. I can't get.

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Speaker 3: Enough of him.

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Speaker 4: Up and Frank, there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 2: You're your hosts, John Anick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: We're going through wide off the top today. It's great

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Speaker 5: to see everybody, Ken Flo.

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Speaker 6: Is that a mustache? A little bit? A little bit?

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Speaker 5: I didn't intend to. We need the show with your

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Speaker 5: facial hair. We're gonna have more on that, lad. We

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Speaker 5: have a very special guest off the top of the show.

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Speaker 5: But I have not showered since Sydney, Australia. I got

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Speaker 5: it my flor four minutes ago because the consensus greatest

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Speaker 5: band weight of all time was gracious enough to move

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Speaker 5: back his window fifteen minutes because it took me forever

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Speaker 5: to get home from the airport.

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Speaker 6: Thank and everybody for indulging us.

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Speaker 5: It is episode five thirty seven of the Amiconformed podcast

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Speaker 5: We Are Live. It is Monday, February tenth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 5: Got a lot to get to today, especially on UFC

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Speaker 5: three twelve. But as you see and easy on the

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Speaker 5: eyes is he joining us off the top of the show.

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Speaker 5: Is the former two time UFC Bandweight Champion, consensus greatest

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Speaker 5: band weight of all time.

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Speaker 6: Down the cruise? Where are you? Are you in Mexico.

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Speaker 7: City, Mexico City? Still here? And thanks for showing the

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Speaker 7: people how hard it is to do a podcast, Like

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Speaker 7: how many seasons? How many in a row have you done?

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Speaker 7: You spoke about this recently now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love how you have said to us in

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Speaker 5: the past, like what do you guys talk about for

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Speaker 5: five hundred and thirty seven fucking episodes?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 6: Oh, that's so bro. But April ninth, right, we sit

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Speaker 6: here February tenth.

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Speaker 5: April ninth, twenty twenty five is our ten year anniversary

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Speaker 5: of the Antic and Florian podcast, and it's a nice

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Speaker 5: setuay to the Cruise with Me podcast featuring Domina Cruz,

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Speaker 5: which is coming soon.

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Speaker 7: Yes, that will be coming soon. And you know, I

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Speaker 7: try not to mix up. There's so many things you

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Speaker 7: can get caught up in. And when you're fighting, because

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Speaker 7: it's you get a lot of opportunities brought to the doorstep.

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Speaker 7: And I know Kenny knows this because he's fought at

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Speaker 7: the highest level. You got to sort out your priorities

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Speaker 7: when you're competing against these guys. So I haven't really

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Speaker 7: had the time to do that stuff. But now without

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Speaker 7: needing to train or else, I get my you know,

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Speaker 7: faith beat in. It changes priorities a lot. It's totally different,

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Speaker 7: all right.

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Speaker 5: Well, a lot that we want to get into with you,

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Speaker 5: and I know Kenny has some questions as well. And yeah,

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Speaker 5: we'll pump your coming soon podcast on the back end

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Speaker 5: to be sure. I'm kind of offended that you name

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Speaker 5: the fucking show without consulting me. And I know we're live,

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Speaker 5: but you and I have been talking for years about

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Speaker 5: you doing a podcast with or without me. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I got ken flow, but you already named the fucking

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Speaker 5: show without consulting them.

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Speaker 7: Man, you know I figured it. It had a whenever

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Speaker 7: somebody goes on a cruise, everybody wants to be there

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Speaker 7: because you're just it's chilled. It's cruising, so cruising it

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Speaker 7: seems pretty pretty, NOI it seems like a win win

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Speaker 7: no matter what you did, because we're not It doesn't

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Speaker 7: need to get too stressful. We're just cruising, all right.

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Speaker 5: Well, if you don't know the lead story other than

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Speaker 5: UFC three twelve. Over the past week, after a second

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Speaker 5: from off February twenty second. But this is going to

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Speaker 5: mean the end of your career. And you've given so

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Speaker 5: much of your mind and your body to the sport,

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Speaker 5: and thankfully we will all continue to benefit from your mind.

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Speaker 5: But I guess if you could just take us back

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Speaker 5: to the day it happened, and you know those ensuing

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Speaker 5: I know you're in a lot of pain.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, it was like I did one. I had

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Speaker 7: I'm still fast, all these things, right, So then you

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Speaker 7: I rehabbed it for six weeks straight and then I

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Speaker 7: After the rehab I had done and I did really well.

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Speaker 7: You're on your back from half guard and you get

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Speaker 7: It just gave a different perspective for me. You know,

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Speaker 7: it's a it's a testing game now, right, Kenny. It's like,

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Speaker 7: how much is my shoulder worth? How much is being

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Speaker 7: it's still paid for almost I have a lot of

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Speaker 7: But it's not just it's it's it's a you got

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dom, You know, you've been around the sport for

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Speaker 1: a very long time, legendary career obviously, and certainly have

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Speaker 6: What was your mindset after you got injured?

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Speaker 1: Was it something similar to maybe the first ACL tay

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Speaker 6: What was your mindset like.

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Speaker 7: Well, actually it was really similar to my first title loss,

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Speaker 7: the way that I performed gave me peace with myself.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, thankfully UFC three twelve wasn't the part of

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Speaker 6: But we love you, buddy.

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Speaker 5: You always have a platform here and just congratulations on

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Speaker 7: And thanks for making the time. Ann. I know you

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Speaker 5: Oh, thank you buddy much love man. We'll have more

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Speaker 7: Kenny, don't do anything with that mustache, and I'll.

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Speaker 6: See your buddy guys.

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Speaker 5: There. He is the now retired former two time UFC

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Speaker 8: Ray Longo is with us, Guys.

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Speaker 9: I just want to say one thing. I hope when

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Speaker 8: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: Unbelievable Ray, you got company today.

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Speaker 6: Hey, every time you're on the podcast, Chelsea.

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Speaker 9: About time, so she'll yeah, she's been talking about it

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Speaker 6: Let's jo Let's go.

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Speaker 8: Ray.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if it's the lighting, but you look,

437
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Speaker 5: you look. Is Chelsea gonna be with us in the shot,

438
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Speaker 5: the whole, the whole second, what we're doing. I mean,

439
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Speaker 5: I love Chelsea. She can be Oh no, she can

440
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 5: stay there, stay there. I just need I need to

441
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 5: know up front if Chelsea is going to be.

442
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Speaker 8: Okay.

443
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Speaker 6: John just kicked her out. I mean, the beauty.

444
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Speaker 8: He's cranky.

445
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 6: He just got off a plane. I get it.

446
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 8: That's Chelsea Sapphire, that's her dancing.

447
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 5: Name, Chelsea fucking Sapphire. I mean, did I just get

448
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 5: off the metal tomb from city. I don't know what

449
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 5: the Fu's going on right now?

450
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Speaker 8: We live that was That was Sydney.

451
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 5: Sidney was great. I feel like it's my favorite non

452
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 5: US city. To be sure, you look so great at

453
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Speaker 5: this time of day. I'm not blowing smoke, but like,

454
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 5: I mean, you got color.

455
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

456
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Speaker 6: Why do you shave? I mean, you look so much

457
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 6: better with a little scruff on your face.

458
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Speaker 8: Than you do. My wife loves that.

459
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Speaker 5: I'm telling you. The scruff looks great. The scruff looks great,

460
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 5: looks like Chelsea's back in the shot. I'm glad that

461
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 5: you take this podcast seriously, you know, ten years in I'm.

462
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Speaker 6: Glad, you know. And I'm the bad guy again, right,

463
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Speaker 6: You're stupid, Ray, She's.

464
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 8: Like Poorly and Rocky. I think the meat guys in

465
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Speaker 8: the pictures.

466
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean, if I'm if I'm at the

467
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Speaker 5: DraftKings network, I'm thinking, like what exactly my pain?

468
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Speaker 1: You know?

469
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Speaker 5: And a conflorent podcast presented by Draft Kings DraftKings The

470
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Speaker 5: crown is yours?

471
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Speaker 6: So, Ray, I do think the scruff looks great. That's

472
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 6: enough on that.

473
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 5: Can flow looking like a cold blooded assassinator with his mustache.

474
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Speaker 6: Where are you, Kenny? Are you home?

475
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Speaker 8: I am.

476
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: We had a little light issue, like we were getting

477
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: a lot of like reflection on the light for some reason,

478
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: so I had to turn him down and put the

479
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: lamp in the background. It does look a little extra creepy,

480
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 1: I gotta say. And then the mustache, and there's a

481
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: lot of creepiness going on over here.

482
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Speaker 6: But are you armed? Are you armed right now? Potentially

483
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 6: at the moment, we'll see.

484
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 8: I'm always he's always armed.

485
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Speaker 5: So Ray, it's great to see you. It's always a

486
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 5: treat for us to have whatever amount of time with you.

487
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 5: I'm apologizing to you for me in a few minutes late.

488
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 5: I literally came back from the airport, walked in the

489
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Speaker 5: door hands, So I apologize. Do you accept the apology

490
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 5: or no? It doesn't sound like you Okay, all right.

491
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Speaker 5: I'm not apologizing to Chelsea incidentally, because I don't know

492
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Speaker 5: that I did any preserve the sanctity of the show.

493
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 5: So a lot to get into, my friend with you.

494
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 5: I think I would like to start with your number

495
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Speaker 5: one overall draft pick, Kevin Lee and that sparring video.

496
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Speaker 6: Bro Kenny, I don't.

497
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 5: Know if you've ingested this I see at this point

498
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 5: any mixed martial arts fan has if you don't know, somehow,

499
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 5: some way at Kilcliff FC, some sparring footage got out

500
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 5: and Kevin Lee, I don't know if he was throwing

501
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 5: a jumping or a flying knee, but he got knocked

502
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Speaker 5: out cold with the right hand, Raymond, And I know

503
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 5: it's not really your number one pick, but what do

504
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 5: you have for us on video like that getting out

505
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,479
Speaker 5: and just that type of thing happening and sparring?

506
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Speaker 6: How regular is that?

507
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Speaker 5: Oh?

508
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Speaker 9: I don't think it's regular, but happens. I don't know

509
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 9: what kind of sparring they were doing over there. It

510
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 9: didn't look extreme like for what I looked at. It

511
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 9: looked like he just did like a tried to do

512
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Speaker 9: a flying knee that really wasn't going to even land.

513
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Speaker 9: And I think the guy caught him with like a

514
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 9: check cook that right hook. But shit happens, man, That's

515
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 9: it's not a good sign. And you know, luckily the

516
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 9: league doesn't start for two months, so.

517
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Speaker 5: Right Kenny, I didn't feel like there was anything malicious

518
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 5: with the right hand.

519
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Speaker 6: It was just sort of pinpoint placement.

520
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Speaker 5: And I agree with ray I felt like be up wrong,

521
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Speaker 5: all right, Sorry, Well maybe I agree with Ray on

522
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 5: the flying knee.

523
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Speaker 6: That was just sort of cosmetic, right, Yeah, yeah, I.

524
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Speaker 8: Would have had to have been there and see if

525
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 8: they were going berserk. I don't, I don't. It didn't.

526
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Speaker 9: I could, like again, I could be roomed from what

527
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 9: I'm looking at it just you know, I've seen I mean,

528
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 9: shit happens, it's not you know.

529
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so when I yeah, I was gonna say so

530
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Speaker 1: when I see that kind of sparring, and Ray's absolutely correct,

531
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Speaker 1: It's like you kind of have to see the energy

532
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: that's going back and forth, and it's hard to tell

533
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: with that flying knee while you know, unadvised and sparring

534
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: especially you know, guys are getting ready for fight. You

535
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: don't want to throw a whole lot of those unless

536
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,479
Speaker 1: you're really controlled. It could have been that, you know,

537
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: Lee was throwing bombs at him just prior to that,

538
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: and then he was kind of matching the intensity of it. However,

539
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: if that was thrown like that, and and that wasn't

540
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Speaker 1: the case on the party, Kevin, I go yo, let's

541
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Speaker 1: chill out a little bit, because that had some steak

542
00:25:58,840 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: on it, right.

543
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Speaker 8: Kenny, That's what it looked like to me, like one guy.

544
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Speaker 8: And again I didn't look at it a lot. I

545
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 8: quickly looked at but it looked like Kevin Lee was just.

546
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 9: Kind of chilling out and this guy just unleashed the

547
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 9: right hook on his you know, it's just you know whatever.

548
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 9: I don't know, but uh yeah, I would have had

549
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 9: to have seen the whole thing. Were they going at it?

550
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 9: Different story, But it looks like Kevin Lee just got

551
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 9: caught while he was playing around, which kind of really

552
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 9: sucks because that's what that is.

553
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 8: Worse than two guys going at it.

554
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 9: To me, right, one guy's trying to play around, the

555
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 9: other guy takes like a cheap shut that to me,

556
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 9: that's bullshit, you know what I mean.

557
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 5: So I believe it was Kai Cot of France who

558
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 5: suffered a concussion in training if I'm not mistaken in

559
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 5: advance of the Manel Cop fight and wisely pulled out.

560
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 5: I don't know if he's gonna fight Pantosa for the title, right,

561
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 5: But Kenny and Ray, I'm not trying to put you

562
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 5: guys on the spot. But Ray just said, well, the

563
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 5: thing doesn't start for two months, that's the good thing.

564
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Speaker 5: And I'm thinking should there be some brain preservation here.

565
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 5: The dude knocked out cold, so he's not going to

566
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 5: be sparing anytime soon, or is he.

567
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Speaker 9: He's got to look it depends on if you want

568
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 9: to play it safe and take care of your health.

569
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 8: You have to do that.

570
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 9: But you know, John, most of the damage happens when

571
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 9: you don't get knocked out, and then you just stay

572
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 9: there for another twenty minutes.

573
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 8: There's always the wrap on boxing, you know.

574
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 9: Sure you get beat up, you get a minute to

575
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 9: the rest of it, and you get beat up again,

576
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 9: and it's just keep going out now. And it doesn't

577
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 9: matter if they're Rayoun's gloves as opposed to something else.

578
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:37,239
Speaker 9: But yeah, it's the look it. It's a sport that

579
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 9: you It's like jumping out of an aeroplane doing skydiving.

580
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 9: You have to know what the ramifications are and then

581
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 9: if you choose to do it, well, that's all you

582
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 9: can do is educate people on everything, and if they

583
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 9: choose to do it, there's nothing you can do about it.

584
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 9: Everybody knows that you get lung cancer from smoking. I

585
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 9: can't believe people still smoke, you know, but that's a

586
00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 9: known fact.

587
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 8: It's not good for you. And yet people do it.

588
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 9: But I could tell you there were a couple of

589
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 9: fights Saturday night that guys are gonna be in worse

590
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,959
Speaker 9: shape than Kevin Lee, like even like like that Cody

591
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 9: Steel fight where they were going back and forth, some

592
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 9: huge shots, you know what I mean, and sometimes in

593
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,719
Speaker 9: your own worst enemy when you could take it because

594
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 9: you're taking an extra fifteen punches.

595
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 6: You know, do you guys remember do you guys remember TJ.

596
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: Grant from back in the day, the Canadian mixed martial

597
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: arts fighter, He had a title shot, was supposed to

598
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: fight guy, yeah, and training and never was the same.

599
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: He never was able to come back and fight because

600
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: of that concussion.

601
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Speaker 6: So I mean, these these things can't happen.

602
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: Man.

603
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: It's a crazy sport, and people forget the training that

604
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: happens before you get out.

605
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 9: That's where it is, Kenny, more than even the fights.

606
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 9: But some I'm just looking at some of those fights

607
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 9: the other night, you get you know, look, this is

608
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 9: this isn't a sport for the week, man. This is

609
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 9: there's gonna be ramifications for everybody fighting later.

610
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 8: On in life.

611
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 9: I think it's just the way it is, you know,

612
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 9: And if you could get away with it with none beautiful,

613
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 9: but you know what you're getting into, Like, I don't

614
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 9: want to be here with guys, So I didn't know

615
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 9: you could get.

616
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 8: From that.

617
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 9: You know, that would be hard, that's worse. So everybody

618
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 9: knows what it is. You have to take care of yourself.

619
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 9: He should chill out, you know, I know what people

620
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 9: had concussions here.

621
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 8: Don't do any you know, you can't.

622
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 9: Don't even think. They don't even want you to think.

623
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 9: You got to just really give your brain a break, man.

624
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 9: And I hope he's around the right people that look

625
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 9: after him a little bit, you know.

626
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it's a scary thing. I've excuse me.

627
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 5: I've had bad luck in my life right as a

628
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 5: non fighter. Have been out cold twice on basketball courts,

629
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 5: you know.

630
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 8: Hospitalized, think about it on basketball?

631
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, so how cold? I mean completely, And I'm.

632
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 9: Gonna give you, I'm gonna educate you a little bit.

633
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 9: The head really wasn't meant to get hit.

634
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 8: But I know I didn't go to mid school.

635
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 9: But you know, you know, like as a you know,

636
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 9: as a kid, you know, you know, Kenny, like we

637
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 9: were so stupid back in the day. We'd head bud

638
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 9: each other we thought that was yeah, we thought that

639
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 9: was alas.

640
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: They don't even let kids head a soccer ball now

641
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: until they are there certain age.

642
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 9: It's like, hey, Kenny, Kenny, there's horror stories from soccer.

643
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 8: Horror worse than people ask me.

644
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: People ask me how many times you've been concussed in

645
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: mixed martial arts, and I always tell them in mixed

646
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: martial arts. I'm not sure I've never been officially concussed

647
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: in mixed martial arts. I have been concussed in soccer

648
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: and I was like twelve, Yeah, I mean that's not

649
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: good for a growing brain to be concussed.

650
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 6: I came down.

651
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: Collided, you know, heads with the kid as I was

652
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: coming down off a header.

653
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 9: But anyway, yeah, no, no, because I there was a

654
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 9: I saw something on a soccer player from England that

655
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 9: it was.

656
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Speaker 8: It was gut wrenching. His wife was telling the story.

657
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Speaker 9: You don't look at that as a as a big thing,

658
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 9: but even the soccer ball bouncing off your head, now,

659
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Speaker 9: imagine a fist.

660
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Speaker 6: Or an elbow.

661
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, hey, I want to be respectful of your time.

662
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 5: We got about ten more minutes we need to get

663
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 5: into UFC three twelve before we lose this entire fucking

664
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Speaker 5: audience headlines brought to you by Quervo. Now's a good

665
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Speaker 5: time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila.

666
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Speaker 6: And still you have seen mid away champion drinkis du

667
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Speaker 6: plus C ray I will start with you. I mean,

668
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Speaker 6: the fuck is going on there?

669
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Speaker 5: I guess I need to know as the producer of

670
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 5: this podcast that if I'm getting ray Long going prime time,

671
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 5: I'm getting fucking Chelsea and background noise and everything else.

672
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Speaker 5: What did you make of the middleweight champion? Though dominant

673
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 5: in defense against Sean Strickland.

674
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Speaker 8: We gotta do what we have to do. I got

675
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 8: I gotta teach in ten minutes. But uh uh wait

676
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 8: what was that? What do they think of the main event?

677
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Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, DUPLEUSUS was able to make more adjustments than

678
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 9: Strickland was able to make, and you know, I think,

679
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Speaker 9: uh yeah.

680
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 4: I don't know.

681
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 9: I mean, look, Nixic did the right thing. He jumped

682
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 9: on him from round one. Like I think Sean is

683
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 9: so used to spallring that way that it's hard for

684
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 9: him to break out of it when he needs to.

685
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 9: You know, He's just it's it's different where the other guy,

686
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 9: you know, is willing to go into deep waters. He's

687
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 9: awkward as ship, but he's effective. He's effective, you know.

688
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 9: So I enjoyed the fight. It was nice. I thought

689
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 9: it was started. I think it was kind of what

690
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 9: we said it's going to be the same thing that

691
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 9: it was different.

692
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 8: But you know, Strickland didn't really make any adjustments.

693
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 9: He still stayed behind the jib and uh, you know,

694
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 9: his defense was pretty good.

695
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 8: But the other guy just doesn't stop. He's like he

696
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 8: is like a Morob.

697
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, I do.

698
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Speaker 8: Was Chelsea hit this.

699
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Speaker 6: Guy out of No, it's fine, it's fine, right, we're

700
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 6: not picking it up. It's fine, just having fun with you.

701
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 6: It's fine.

702
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 8: You're right.

703
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Speaker 5: The only cop I had kenk for DDP was Morob.

704
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 5: That's all I kept thinking. They were all all the

705
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 5: guys I can compare it to each other.

706
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Speaker 8: Yeah, he's definite. You know, they don't look well.

707
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 9: Morob's grappling looks good, but his his striking's really coming

708
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 9: around too.

709
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 8: So, but it's the same thing.

710
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 9: You can't deter these guys, and they get stronger as

711
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 9: the fight goes on. That's the major takeaway is that

712
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 9: you know, you gotta be prepared for five rounds of

713
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Speaker 9: a guy in your face, not knowing where those kicks

714
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 9: are landing.

715
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Speaker 8: I mean he's just throwing they spin elbows. He doesn't

716
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Speaker 8: get him ship.

717
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Speaker 9: He's got the bulls to step in the pocket and

718
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Speaker 9: do whatever he wants to do. Uh And Strickland, really,

719
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Speaker 9: I think Nixic did a good job.

720
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Speaker 8: You gotta you gotta get your cross going. You gotta

721
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 8: work the you know, you gotta you want to box him.

722
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 8: You gotta box them there, not just with the JEB.

723
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Speaker 9: He's got a great job and he could do it,

724
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 9: but he should use that to set up for everything

725
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 9: else he does. And I think he's just he's so

726
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 9: used to it just looks like when I watch his

727
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 9: sporing videos, he's doing the like the same thing he's

728
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 9: he's in that's ingrained in him. And I think that

729
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 9: could be a problem where he he's.

730
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Speaker 8: Not coming out of that, you know he does.

731
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Speaker 9: It's not like he gets hurt, you know what I mean,

732
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 9: he's you're not really wobbling.

733
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Speaker 8: He did break his nose, but you know, listen.

734
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Speaker 9: And plus I love Strickland as a fighter because man,

735
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 9: he's a real dude.

736
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Speaker 8: He gives it up to you at the end.

737
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Speaker 9: You know, as crazy as he might be, I think

738
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 9: he's one of those guys that he's a for real

739
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 9: He's a genuine.

740
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 8: Article that guy.

741
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Speaker 9: And I love the way he gave it up to

742
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 9: Dricis after the fight. He's not making excuses, he's not

743
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 9: doing anything. He just he appreciates the fight. Man, he

744
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 9: really does. I could see those guys becoming good friends, now,

745
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 9: you know what I mean.

746
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,959
Speaker 8: So that's what it's about to me anyway, I really

747
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 8: I love watching.

748
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 6: That, Kenny. I'm gonna get your thoughts on this fight.

749
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 5: It's hard not to sort of piggyback upon the last

750
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 5: word that I hear. I agree with everything that was

751
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 5: said about Sean Strickland, but let's not pretend that he

752
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 5: has the championship hunger of Drikus Duplessi or kamzat Chimaia

753
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 5: for anybody else, because if he did, with total respect,

754
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 5: then when your coach tells you repeatedly to throw the

755
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 5: cross first and to move to your left, I mean

756
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 5: he's not executing any of those imperatives. He has been

757
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 5: defiant at times in fight, but this was the least

758
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 5: coachable he'd ever been.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, right, let me just say one thing. That's the

760
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 9: other problem is like when they aren't trying to coach him, Kenny,

761
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 9: He's not even there. He's he wants to do what

762
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 9: he wants to do, and he's like, Eric's going, you

763
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 9: got anything else? The guy's halfway across the octagon while

764
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 9: the guy's talking.

765
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 6: You know, you can go.

766
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 9: You got a guy down, you gotta make eye contact

767
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 9: with him. You have to really get in his face.

768
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 9: And you know, I'm sure they had a different plane

769
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 9: going in there, but he looked like he reverted back

770
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 9: to just jabbing and sticking and moving and throwing his

771
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 9: front ticks and.

772
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's where Dom, that's where Dom's

773
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, those words were ringing in my ears throughout

774
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: that fight, iron mind, and he was referring to it

775
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: as far as the guy who's not gonna quit, who's

776
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: gonna keep coming forward, and a guy who's not gonna

777
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: get thrown off by things, And that really was a

778
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: major factor in that fight. Strickland was not listening to

779
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: his corner, He was not as disciplined as he needed to,

780
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: He was not making the adjustments that I talked about

781
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,479
Speaker 1: in the last podcast, and all of those things put

782
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 1: together was a huge problem because he had a guy

783
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: in Drinks Do Plus who came with a beautiful game plan,

784
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: who kind of sow it as one continuous fight. The

785
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: sixth round started, and boy, he got off to a

786
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: great start.

787
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 6: He was versatile. He was throwing a lot of different things.

788
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: He would stand switching, and in order to beat Drinkis Duplessy,

789
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: you have to find a way around those physical assets.

790
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: And yes, I love the analogy to Morob duales Phelly,

791
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: because those guys are so powerful with their physical characteristics

792
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 1: that they bring into the cage. Then you better hope

793
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: and pray that you are head and shoulders above them

794
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: on a technical level. And not many people are gonna

795
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: be just that. And people forget Drinkis Duplessi had a

796
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: very injured leg. He might have even had a broken

797
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: foot heading into that first fight against Strickland. So just

798
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: to make it five rounds against Strickland is impressive. But

799
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: to win that first fight against Strickland is insane. And

800
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: then to see him put it all together, he looked

801
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: more technical, he looked more fluid, he looked like an

802
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: improved fighter. That guy dominated for a reason.

803
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 9: Yeah, hats off to him because again one of those

804
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 9: guys from the beginning. I just didn't see it. But

805
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 9: I'm a I'm a I'm a huge fan. Now the

806
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 9: last couple of fights, I'm a huge fan. And who

807
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 9: doesn't want to see that Comsa fight, you know what

808
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 9: I mean? Or I love it, even Nasa deem I

809
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 9: And honestly, I think Nasa deems the tougher fight, believe

810
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 9: it or not, for the one reason that I think

811
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 9: Coms that's gas Tank. I can't see him in the

812
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 9: four round war. He looks like he's wilted in a

813
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 9: couple of times in the past cardio wise, and this

814
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 9: guy's getting stronger. And I don't know, but both fights

815
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 9: would I'd love to see either one of those fights.

816
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 6: Gosh, we have so much to talk about.

817
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 5: Tom's out as the stylist is like Tatiana Suarez, right,

818
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 5: they trying to get that takedown early on. I actually

819
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 5: felt like Tatiana Suarez could have been a little bit

820
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 5: more patient. But yeah, so ray for drinkistuplus and Kamza

821
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 5: chimay have. I said at the end of last year,

822
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 5: I thought that was the most chaotic fight that you

823
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 5: could make. I mean, Bob in terms of a twenty

824
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 5: five minute fighter and the size I hear you DDP

825
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 5: and sheim I have.

826
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 9: Read that would be absolute chaos.

827
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 8: I would love to see that fight, all right.

828
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 5: Right before we let you go, Nazeem Sadakov is competing

829
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 5: this weekend in Las Vegas, if I'm not mistaken.

830
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 6: Is that accurate?

831
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, of course it's accurate.

832
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 6: I'm saying that somewhat tongue in cheeks. So what do

833
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 6: you have for us on Nas? Are we ready to go? Uh?

834
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 6: It's a big fight fighting one of the bomb theme brothers.

835
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 8: No, yeah, big fight. I think Nas is ready? Uh wait,

836
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 8: wait what happened? He left? This is I feel like strict.

837
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 6: I'm right here. I just took a shot at Quervo.

838
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

839
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,959
Speaker 9: I tried to talk to you walking away from Kenny.

840
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 9: You got the guys in the fact he's fighter refrigerator.

841
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 5: I drink and forgive Clervo, and you know, I'm I

842
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 5: let me clear my throat, right, you know this? So

843
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 5: I'm trying to need something to clear my throat. I'm sorry,

844
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 5: but please as you were.

845
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 9: H Yeah, So Nas looks good, his head's in the

846
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 9: right spot. He sent me some of his barring. He

847
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 9: looks good. I'll know more when I get down there Wednesday.

848
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 9: But uh, he certainly sounds really good.

849
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 5: All right, Well, I really think you should keep the scruff.

850
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 5: I think you look fantastic. You're on camera every week

851
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 5: on the Anakinfloring podcast. You've never looked better, you got color,

852
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 5: you look great. I think you should grow the full beard.

853
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 5: Go like full on Rocky three. You'll look like Sylvester

854
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 5: stallone and Rocky three. He was in the mountains in Russia. Right,

855
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 5: let's go.

856
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 8: I gotta get my hair transplant first.

857
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 9: I'm going to Sweden.

858
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 6: Turkeysplanting Sweden Turkey. Yeah, yeah, whatever. Well, we all remember

859
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 6: when you grew out your hair during COVID, But I

860
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 6: think the beard is here to stay.

861
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 5: But thank you, brother. Sorry for being a few minutes later.

862
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 5: We'll catch up later in the week. But best to

863
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 5: Chelsea and everybody else there.

864
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 6: In Longes MMA School in Garden City of New York.

865
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 8: Chelsea, No, we're good.

866
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 9: Thank you though, minute men and minute men.

867
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 8: I'd like that song. I think I can put a

868
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 8: new song for the minute men.

869
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 6: Uh, actually get behind anything else. No, I mean I

870
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 6: think we're good.

871
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 9: I tell you that the way the Waaley fight was unbelievable.

872
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 8: I thought that was to me, I never I always

873
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 8: liked it. I put it right at the dime.

874
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 9: That was a great fight against the girl that could wrestle.

875
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 9: She out wrestled that girl. She controlled that whole fight. Crazy.

876
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 9: I didn't see that coming. I picked that to win

877
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 9: that fight. But yeah, man did that girl. That girl

878
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 9: was well prepared for that fight.

879
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 6: You know. Yeah, A ton of time on jeongwe Lee.

880
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 5: But Ray, isn't it interesting right because after that performance

881
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 5: recency biased or otherwise, it has journalists like Aaron Bronstead

882
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 5: are asking aloud, like, what exactly does Jeong w Ley

883
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 5: need to do to pass Amanda Newnes as the greatest

884
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 5: women's at m A fighter of all time? Because gosh,

885
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 5: undred and fifteen pounds Kenny compared to thirty five in

886
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 5: totality is a deeper division, you know, I mean, what

887
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 5: does someone need to do exactly? I don't know, But Ray,

888
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 5: to your point, this is as good of a women's

889
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 5: mixed martial arts athlete really your male that I think

890
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 5: I've ever seen so.

891
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 8: And she looks like she and she's not a spring chicken.

892
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 9: She looks like she's getting better that was a really

893
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 9: good fight for it really was a really good fight.

894
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 8: Was super impressed with that fight.

895
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, as were we. All Right, buddy, thank you so

896
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 6: much for the time. We'll talk to you next week.

897
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 8: Take it easy, guys, I'll see you there. Ray, thank

898
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 8: you well.

899
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 6: I could have Ray long Goo with us today.

900
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 5: So much to get into on UFC three twelve, ken fl.

901
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 5: I want to spend a few more minutes on the

902
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 5: main event. Then I'm going to pay off some sponsors

903
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 5: and then we will get to Jogwei Lee and everything else.

904
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 5: But for Drinkis du plus ce right, it was the

905
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 5: most informative fighter meeting since we've been doing them by far.

906
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 5: I probably got to five percent of what he told us.

907
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 5: There wasn't as our producer, Michael Laplant said, a single

908
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 5: wasted utterance from Dracus Dupless in our Fighter meeting. The

909
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 5: thought that goes into what he and Mornae Visser do.

910
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 5: I just think someone like you, the mind that you have,

911
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 5: would be so appreciative of the commitment, the obsession.

912
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 6: And it's not like.

913
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 5: He doesn't, you know, chug bears and I mean the

914
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 5: guy has a balance in terms of the work life,

915
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 5: but gosh, man, they know exactly what to do when

916
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 5: it comes to preparing for these contests. And to your point,

917
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 5: they presented a better version and Hamzat's gonna get a

918
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 5: better version than the one we saw Saturday night.

919
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 6: I truly believe that.

920
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 1: And you know, there's like a little South African diaspora

921
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: here in North Carolina where I'm at, and uh and boy,

922
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: these guys go nuts for Drinkes Duplessy and they just

923
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: talk about how the country just adores that guy. But

924
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: it's not surprising, you know, it seems like they're built

925
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: different over there, man, and drinkis Duplessy is certainly built

926
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: different than most. And you know, he may not be

927
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: the Moho technical fighter out there, but he's getting better

928
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: every time I see him. And that's gonna be a

929
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: problem because physically there's very few people that can compete

930
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: with him. The kind of pace and pressure and durability

931
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: that he brings every single time out is insane. So yeah,

932
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: I thought he looked absolutely spectacular. And you know, while Strickland,

933
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: you know, is a guy that also kind of brings

934
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: in durability and conditioning, he just showed a completely different level.

935
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: And you know when when he was hitting Strickland, he

936
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 1: was having an effect almost every single time. So he's

937
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: a powerful guy. That is a very intelligent guy who's

938
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: surrounded by other people.

939
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 6: And again to be.

940
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: The first one to do it to you know, he's

941
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: not from this hot bed yeah in Miami, Florida, or

942
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: out west in California or whatever. He's from South Africa,

943
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: where not other you know, not a whole lot of

944
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: other people have fought at a high level. And to

945
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: be the first ones to do it and to get

946
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: a championship in the UFC, that's just unbelievable.

947
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 6: Man.

948
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sure people realize how difficult that is. I'm

949
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: glad you put it that way.

950
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 5: It's the stuff of legends, Like it's not out of

951
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 5: the realm of possibility that the South African schools are

952
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 5: going to be teaching about dreecys du plus s one

953
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 5: hundred years from now. So he did not get off

954
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 5: to a particularly good start at all in the first

955
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 5: fight at UFC two ninety seven against Sean Strickland, And

956
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 5: one of the things that came across in our fighter

957
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 5: meeting was Strickland's jab right is so hard it's more

958
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 5: powerful than his right cross these are dvp's words, So.

959
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 6: You can't be getting your face mangled by the jab early.

960
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 5: And the result was that DDP didn't have nearly the

961
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 5: damage at the end of this fight, but particularly when

962
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 5: it came to getting off to a good start, that

963
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 5: was a priority and it set the tone for the

964
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 5: entire fight.

965
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I got chills. That means I heard some kind

966
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: of a truth there, Johnny. So yeah, one hundred percent.

967
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: If you're going to fight Seawn Strickland, man, you need

968
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: to have a solution to that, Jeb.

969
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 6: If you don't, it's going to be a long ass

970
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 6: night for you. Both eyes will be bruised.

971
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: Up, and it's just hard to do everything off of that.

972
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: If someone's establishing that range, it's going to be really

973
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: difficult for you to do anything where the grappling, striking, whatever.

974
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: But clearly this is a team and a man in

975
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: drinkis Duplessi, who did his homework and just looked ready

976
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: to go straight straight off the gate.

977
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 6: Man. It was really really impressive.

978
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 5: Couldn't happen to a better human being. I absolutely love

979
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 5: the guy. We did pull our anakin floor. In podcasts,

980
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 5: listeners and viewers as to how they would handicap a

981
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 5: fight between Kamza Chimaiev and Drinks duplus C. Sixty one

982
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 5: percent of respondents like Kamza Chimai have short sample size.

983
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 5: I think only a couple thousand people can flow. I'm

984
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 5: not asking for a prediction right now, but as you

985
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 5: forecast to the fight of all fights, and let me

986
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 5: just add in what's so great about champions like Bala Muhamma,

987
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 5: Drinks duplus C, Morob Dwalash Willie and say what you

988
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 5: want about Morob's reluctance at times to give Umar the opportunity.

989
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 5: But Ballao wants to clean out all the top guys.

990
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 5: Dracus wants to fight the guy that is the most dangerous,

991
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 5: that has most earned the opportunity, that the fan base

992
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 5: is behind, that the UFC is behind.

993
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 6: Right.

994
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 5: He wants to fight Hams actually might if he knows

995
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 5: that's next. What do you think about the fight?

996
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that's what makes them, that's what

997
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: makes them such a savage and that's the fight right there.

998
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 6: Man.

999
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: That is a big money fight. And I think that

1000
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: Hamzad is going to be the better grappler overall, I

1001
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: would say, and he's going to be extremely explosive. So

1002
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: I would say that Hamzad probably has ten minutes to

1003
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 1: finish that fight.

1004
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 6: After that, I think it's all drinks duplass.

1005
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: So I think if Dricus and I'm not saying that

1006
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: that's the way he should fight him of just kind

1007
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: of surviving for ten minutes. However, that's where drac Is

1008
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: needs to be most aware, most present, uh and bring

1009
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: his best defenses. For those first ten rites where Hamzat

1010
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: fighting Hobzad, it's just like a whirlwind, you know what

1011
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you just get caught in it.

1012
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 6: You don't know really where you are.

1013
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: Uh, shit's everywhere you know over there, and then all

1014
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you know they're raising Homzad's hand. So

1015
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: if he can survive those first eight to ten minutes,

1016
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: that's where Drickis will start to shine because you know,

1017
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: Hamza is a tremendous hammer, but drinks duplus c is

1018
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: a tough nail. Uh, no question about that. And I

1019
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: think that that that's kind of why I see it initially.

1020
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: But that's the fight that has to happen.

1021
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 6: Man.

1022
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 5: So I'm an MMA fan at my core, and as

1023
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 5: you know, I love Kamza Chimaya I have no comp

1024
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 5: for him. Right, he is a force unlike anything me

1025
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 5: or Dana White has ever seen in the game. I

1026
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,959
Speaker 5: got to play an MMA Fighter version of the game

1027
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 5: Guess Who on Submission Radio, and of course I chose

1028
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 5: Haamza Chimaya, but could not agree with you more in

1029
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 5: terms of the matchup. And it's just hard for me

1030
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 5: to wrap my head around Drinkus du plus e being

1031
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 5: overpowered to the tune of his jaw breaking by this guy,

1032
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 5: right like Drikas is just such a block of a

1033
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 5: man that it's just hard for me to wrap my

1034
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 5: head around him, sort of suffering that type of faith.

1035
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 5: But I haven't seen a betting line as yet, and

1036
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 5: I can't think of a fight that gets me out

1037
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 5: of bed more than that one. All right, more on

1038
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,319
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1040
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1041
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Speaker 5: don't want all that sugar. I don't want Ken Flow

1042
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 5: making fun of me when I'm eating sugary cereals on

1043
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1044
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1045
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1050
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1054
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1055
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1067
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 5: into my elevator about an hour and a half after

1068
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 5: the fight with her entire team, and it might just

1069
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 5: have been the greatest moment of my life to be

1070
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 5: able to hug her. And we had an interpreter there,

1071
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 5: so I was able to tell her how great I

1072
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 5: thought she was.

1073
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Speaker 6: Kenny.

1074
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 5: A couple of years ago, Daniel Cormier was suggested that

1075
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 5: John Way Lee was the greatest athlete in the world,

1076
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 5: and I kind of scoffed bro after being in her

1077
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 5: presence all week watching her open workout. She's a faster

1078
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 5: kicker than any man on the roster. I just am

1079
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 5: blown the fuck away by joangwe Lee. And uh, you know,

1080
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 5: as far as I'm concerned, Mount Rushmore needs a fifth

1081
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 5: slot man or woman, because Jeoangwelee is truly one of

1082
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 5: the greatest mixed martial arts athletes I've ever seen.

1083
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 6: I agree.

1084
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: I think that when you have that level of talent,

1085
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: it's you're gonna be a problem no matter what sport

1086
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: you choose. But you know, Jeong Wieley, she could have

1087
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: been an Olympic gymnast, a wrestler, mixed marshal, Like, she's

1088
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: so talented and I couldn't agree more. Watching her throw

1089
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: that wheel kick, John, I can watch that over and

1090
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 1: over and over again. It's one of the fastest kicks

1091
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: I've seen any human throw, period period. It's I was

1092
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 1: waiting for her to throw during the fight because when

1093
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: I couldn't catch it, when she was throwing it all

1094
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: the paths.

1095
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 6: It was that freaking fast. But what's even more impressive

1096
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 6: than all of.

1097
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: That is her ability to out wrestle a woman who

1098
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: wrestled her whole life. That's the kind of athlete we're

1099
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: talking about here, guys. You know, she picked up mixed

1100
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: martial arts and like at first she was like, oh,

1101
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: she's very fast and physical, and then you're like, she

1102
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 1: actually looks like a world class striker now, And now

1103
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: she looks like a world class wrestler. I mean, her

1104
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: ability to just thwart every single takedown attempt from Tatowno

1105
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: Suarez was was something else, man, And then you're throwing

1106
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: the experience and her tenacity it was it was pretty

1107
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: to watch.

1108
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 4: Man.

1109
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 6: Jean way Lee is one of my favorite.

1110
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: Fighters and just everything she says after the fight, her personality,

1111
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: she's so cute, man, it's it's awesome.

1112
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 5: I want to focus on this fight because there's a

1113
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 5: lot on the Suarez side as well, and we will

1114
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 5: bring Brian Petrie into our UFC three twelve breakdown here

1115
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 5: in a few minutes as well. But Amanda noon As

1116
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 5: I think four career losses right, and Joan way Lee

1117
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 5: I think started her pro career zero to one or

1118
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 5: one and one right, but then didn't lose until twice,

1119
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 5: losing to thug Rose nama Unis in twenty twenty one,

1120
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 5: once by split decision and then once via the early headkick.

1121
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 5: And it's crazy to think about thug Rose namba Unis

1122
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 5: with two wins over Yohanna Champion and two wins over

1123
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 5: jeongwe Lee. But other than twenty twenty one, Jean Wailee

1124
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 5: essentially has been not only perfect, but she has been

1125
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 5: dominant every step of the way, and in this fight,

1126
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 5: to your point, doing to Tatiana Suaz, which is not

1127
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 5: a lot of people thought that she could do maybe

1128
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 5: the most spectacular win of her career, even though she

1129
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 5: didn't get a finish as far as Tatiana Suarez is concerned,

1130
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 5: and I had a spirit of conversation with Danie Cormier

1131
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 5: in the airport lounge about this, and I think he

1132
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 5: disagrees largely with what I'm saying. But if you're Kamzat

1133
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 5: Chimaya fighting Drikus Duplessi or Tatiana Suarez fighting Jong Way Lee,

1134
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 5: and I know hindsight is twenty twenty, but to go

1135
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 5: balls to the wall for a takedown early, right because

1136
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 5: the bodies are dry, or that's your style or whatever,

1137
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 5: I just feel like you have to be careful championship

1138
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 5: setting for Tatiana or Hamzat for the first time in

1139
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 5: the UFC fighting a fighter that's just not gonna go

1140
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 5: away at all, and you don't really know exactly what

1141
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 5: you're getting into. So, yes, Suarrez got the first takedown,

1142
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 5: but I don't know if it worked against her. I mean,

1143
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 5: DC disagrees, But what are your thoughts on sort of

1144
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 5: the way the early portions of that fight played out.

1145
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: I think she was figured out that that was a

1146
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: part of it. I think Jean Wailee realized what was

1147
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: going on. She realized that she needed to kind of

1148
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 1: beat her to the underhook game and keep her balance

1149
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: and keep her base up against it's the cage. And

1150
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: then I also think at a certain point she broke

1151
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: Tatiana Suarez mentally. That's how I saw it, because at

1152
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 1: a certain point after round three, especially when she landed

1153
00:53:54,719 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: that huge shot, john Sz just seemed very panicky after that,

1154
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: like she was doing things that she typically doesn't do.

1155
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: She was shooting from way too far out. She was

1156
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: like actually like going to her back. As a wrestler,

1157
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: you don't really see that. And then when she was

1158
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: on her back, she just seemed like she was frozen

1159
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: in time. She wasn't wrestling on that leg to try

1160
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: to get to a single She was kind of just

1161
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: sitting there and she was in a good position to

1162
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: maybe reverse in sweep from there, but she wasn't getting

1163
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: underneath the center of base of our center of mass

1164
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: of jeangwey Lee there. She she wasn't trying to wrestle

1165
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: up to get that single leg. Really, she was just

1166
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: kind of staying there. And now big credit to jeangue

1167
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: Lee who was thwarting a lot of those attempts, But

1168
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: to me, it seemed like Suarez was broken mentally, and yeah,

1169
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: I just didn't see that sense of urgency that I

1170
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: expected from her. And that's the kind of championship ore

1171
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: that jeanwe Lee brings into the cage.

1172
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,720
Speaker 5: I think so r J Clifford, who is an MMA

1173
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 5: talking head. Of course he's on Serious XM satellite radio,

1174
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 5: he's on our UFC way and shows. He was serving

1175
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 5: as my state manager. Nin Er Conley, was not in Australia,

1176
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 5: and I felt like RJ maybe didn't like some of

1177
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 5: the aesthetic from Tatiana Suaz during fight week leading up

1178
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 5: to the point, I felt like it was okay, good

1179
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 5: fighter meeting. I didn't feel like she was particularly tense.

1180
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 5: I know she's a shy individual, But as you were

1181
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 5: ingesting fight week, was there any tell or visual that

1182
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 5: you didn't like or was it just because I agree

1183
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 5: with what you're saying in terms of this fight? And

1184
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 5: I would also say, and I know I'm being long winded,

1185
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 5: but did you see the cut on her knee right

1186
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 5: that we do attention to? So I feel like it

1187
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 5: was more like blunt force trauma, Like by the end

1188
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 5: of the fight, it looked sort of black.

1189
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 6: Once she stood up, and you.

1190
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 5: Know she's like covering up and not wanting the cameraman

1191
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 5: to see it. Nasty passing, patchy mix, how bad it is,

1192
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 5: but yet it's not bleeding.

1193
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 6: It's like you're like, what the fuck happened to my leg.

1194
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 5: It's almost like some car accident stuff happened to my leg,

1195
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 5: and I feel like that could have been part of

1196
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 5: the mental break.

1197
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, absolutely, man, these are all things that

1198
00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: add up being in a UFC World Championship fight. I'll

1199
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: tell you it can be a stressful thing, not only

1200
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: during the fight, but the whole fight week, Like everyone's

1201
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: asking you questions. It's very overwhelming. It's just different than

1202
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: any other fight for the most part. If you can

1203
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: zone that out, awesome, congratulations. But then you know, if

1204
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: you throw those other things in, you know where it's

1205
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: already this hill climb and now you're dealing with this

1206
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: massive cut on your knee. Not to mention John, that's

1207
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: the kind of area where every step you take, every

1208
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: move you make, it's going to hurt.

1209
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 6: And you're gonna be aware of it. You know, wrestling

1210
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 6: on your knee, that's gonna be tough.

1211
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: Like, So these are things that you don't typically expect,

1212
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: especially you know, ten eleven fights into your career. You know,

1213
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: taitanas waaz fantastic fighter. She doesn't have twenty thirty fights

1214
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: under her belt. It's just different. And Jean Wee Lee,

1215
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 1: you know, has been in so many big, critical moments,

1216
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: you know, over the course of her career.

1217
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 6: So anyways, yeah, it was unfortunate.

1218
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: I think that Suarez can get back there, but you know,

1219
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: she's she's gonna have a lot of technical training and

1220
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: I'm sure she's gonna, you know, take away a lot

1221
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: of that.

1222
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 6: Experience from that big fight.

1223
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 5: Tatana Suarez really is a much better striker than people

1224
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 5: are aware. I think this is gonna be valuable experience.

1225
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 5: But my gosh, I said on these airwaves, like I

1226
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 5: just expected some whale to come in with a million

1227
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 5: dollars straight wager on Jongway Lee when she's like plus

1228
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 5: one oh five. Was there ever gonna be anything accounted

1229
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 5: for the championship experience?

1230
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 6: And just what a badass jongwe Lee is.

1231
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 5: You know, Like I literally touched down in Sydney and

1232
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 5: I find myself at an open workout and I'm dodging

1233
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 5: jongwe Lee's kick. It's so fast you know, like five

1234
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 5: minutes after I get off the plane. She is absolutely incredible,

1235
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 5: a tremendous ambassador to mixed martial arts, and you can

1236
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 5: be sure the UFC is the combat Sports leader. Immediately

1237
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 5: went over to that fence to see what happened as

1238
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 5: to what might have cut Tatiana Suarez. You know, I

1239
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 5: think there's maybe like some rubber tubing that is there

1240
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 5: in the States that maybe wasn't there. I don't know

1241
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 5: exactly that. There's a lot of things that I hear

1242
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 5: sort of within earshot. But for jeongwe Lee Kenny, yeah,

1243
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 5: and I do want to right if we had a

1244
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 5: four hour podcast, I would love to have the abandoned

1245
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 5: New Nets conversation.

1246
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 6: I really would because I'm team Straway, you know.

1247
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 5: But as she spins it forward, there is v Ena

1248
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 5: Kaka Rajji Doba, of course, who fights Yan Shannan. I

1249
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 5: believe in Miami in April right in a title eliminator

1250
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 5: of sorts. But we have a clear number one Flyway

1251
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 5: contender in Mono Fure and this could not have been

1252
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 5: a worse night for her because I think if you

1253
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 5: are the UFC and I can hear Lorenzo Fortita back

1254
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 5: in the day. You strike while the iron is hot.

1255
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 5: You don't risk losing. George Saint Pierre versus Anderson Silva. Right,

1256
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 5: you have Valentina Chepchenko and Jong Way Lee fight for

1257
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 5: the women's flyweight championship, and you give Jongway Lee an

1258
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 5: opportunity to become a simultaneous two division champion, do you not?

1259
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 6: Wow?

1260
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that would be awesome, and I think

1261
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: it's interesting when they'd be fighting each other. I think,

1262
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: you know, again, especially coming off of that last win

1263
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: from Chevchenko, she looked awesome. I mean, she put on

1264
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: such a clinical performance in that last one, and right now,

1265
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: Jeangway Lee looks like she's in her prime as well.

1266
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 6: So I would love to see that fight. Man.

1267
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: That that's a super fight that I think the fans

1268
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: would enjoy watching for sure.

1269
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 5: Dude, I really believe what Valentina Chevschenko did at Sphere

1270
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 5: is sort of being underappreciated. Like I feel like it

1271
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 5: was one of her signature wins, one of her best performances.

1272
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 5: She completely neutralized a prime Alexa Rosso right, just wiped

1273
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 5: her out.

1274
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean, dude, but like I, no one

1275
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 6: has championed monoal fures caused more than me, right, I

1276
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 6: mean I called her a bad bitch on national television.

1277
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 6: You know, I love yours.

1278
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 5: So I hate to have to sit here and say

1279
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,479
Speaker 5: when they have their meeting tomorrow McK maynard and Shaan

1280
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 5: Shelby and Dana White, It's like, how do you not

1281
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 5: make Valentina Chevchenko and Joan way Lee as the co

1282
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 5: main event for International Fight Week twenty two twenty five?

1283
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 5: Send out the contracts?

1284
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right.

1285
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 5: I'd like to go three wide if we could, because

1286
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 5: big Gun Brian Petrie has been very patient about the

1287
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 5: schedule today. He also is an analytical mind that I

1288
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 5: wouldn't mind picking. What's up, Brian, John, You're a hero

1289
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 5: for doing this.

1290
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 6: This is hero.

1291
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 5: Well, if I didn't have a guy like you who

1292
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 5: is understanding, then it would make it harder for me

1293
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 5: to execute the show. So I appreciate your patience very much.

1294
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 5: I would like to start with you on Cody Steele

1295
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 5: and Wrong Jew on the prem Sure, I don't know

1296
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Speaker 5: if you put your whole stack on Cody Steals that

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Speaker 5: would happen, okay, But that's not why I'm bringing it up, right.

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Speaker 5: I'm fascinated to talk to you guys about this fight,

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Speaker 5: and there might be some of our audience that did

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Speaker 5: not see this preliminary fight, But Cody Steele was maybe,

1301
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 5: if not one of the bigger betting favorites on the

1302
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 5: fight card, but he felt like a sure thing to

1303
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 5: a lot of people on the ground.

1304
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 6: I felt like wrong.

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01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 5: Jew's coaches were acutely aware of the challenge. On the

1306
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 5: other side, it's thirty to twenty seven times three for

1307
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 5: wrong Ju And I just feel like Cody Steele, an

1308
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 5: outstanding grappler with an outstanding John Wood head coach in

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Speaker 5: his corner, fought the wrong fight. Yeah yeah, I mean,

1310
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Speaker 5: I mean what happened Like when adversity struck He didn't grapple.

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01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 3: No, I mean I said this on my podcast after

1312
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 3: we did our We Take Tars last week. I said,

1313
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 3: the only way he fucks us up if he if

1314
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 3: he gets hand happy.

1315
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 2: And these grapplers who grappled the whole.

1316
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 3: Life, they start knocking people out and they're only training

1317
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 3: hands a lah Josh koshjack back in the day, they

1318
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,479
Speaker 3: forget what they got. He took wrong, drew down once

1319
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 3: got reversed, and then maybe tempted kind of a half

1320
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 3: assed one but no one's gonna believe this. But when

1321
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 3: he was walking out and Daniel and you guys were

1322
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 3: talking about how Cody was very open about submitting wrong

1323
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 3: zoo every which way during practice, I'm like, he's fucked right.

1324
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 3: You can't you can't let rest on those laurels. Practice

1325
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 3: is practice. You're gonna get tapped. You're training certain positions.

1326
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 3: But going in you in your mind you're like, oh,

1327
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 3: I can take this guy down to mid him but

1328
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 3: you didn't do that. Dude, Like he got worked on

1329
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 3: the feet. You know, his reach is very small. He

1330
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 3: was winging shots. He needs a lot of work on

1331
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 3: the feet. And I just really just simple game plan

1332
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 3: stuff needs to work. He obviously has a heart of lion.

1333
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 3: He's got a gin. It's been proven. But man, that

1334
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 3: was a tough one. At midway through the second round,

1335
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, we've lost this. I'm already planning out where

1336
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take money elsewhere because I've already lost that bet.

1337
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 3: I doubled down on him too. I got him at

1338
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 3: two thirty eight, three hundred bucks on my unit to

1339
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 3: one hundred dollars, so I went three unis on him.

1340
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Speaker 3: Let's be transparent, with everybody, and then he went down

1341
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 3: as low as two eighteen. I'm like, he's not he's

1342
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,959
Speaker 3: gonna go. So I got him at fifty bucks there

1343
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 3: a half, you know. So I was in all in

1344
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 3: on him for three fifty and then I saw him

1345
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 3: fight night. He was like three seventy five.

1346
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm like, oh, fucking I beat the line. Check

1347
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 6: me out right.

1348
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 2: He laid it done so well.

1349
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Speaker 5: He sat down five feet for me in the fighter meeting,

1350
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 5: and I'm thinking about your wager as he sits down.

1351
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 6: I'm like, this kid is a fucking animal. You know,

1352
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 6: a meeting played out.

1353
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 5: No but Ray Longo, who watches every fight all forty

1354
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 5: one shows a year, immediately brought up sort of the

1355
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 5: chin and absorbing this type of damage early on in

1356
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 5: your UFC career. This is not gonna lead to longevity.

1357
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 5: A lot of people really believe in this kid, you know.

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01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you go to Washington nowadays, it's pretty crazy. I

1359
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 3: mean it's nice.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, you know, obviously we're wearing a little game here.

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Speaker 1: He Obrian's been kicking my my ass the last couple

1362
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: of years. As long as no one's gonna get physically hurt,

1363
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna do what it takes to try

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Speaker 1: to get the win here.

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Speaker 6: But when Brian made that pick, I was like, just

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01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 6: shut your mouth, Kenny, just.

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Speaker 1: Let this happen. I was a little nervous. And here's why. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in the jiu jitsu world, Cody Steele, he's he's known

1369
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: as as elite. He definitely is. He's got a high

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01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: level of skill when it comes to grappling, but he

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01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: has always been a showman. When there's been a path

1372
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: for him to go out and just like get the win,

1373
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: he does not take that path. He'd prefer to make

1374
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: it exciting. That's what was concerning to me. And also, like,

1375
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, even the things that he was posting about,

1376
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: he was talking about how you know he wanted to

1377
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: go out there and be exciting and all, and I was.

1378
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 6: Just like, he's gonna do it again. He's gonna do

1379
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 6: it again, isn't He's gonna do it again. But here's

1380
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 6: the thing.

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Speaker 1: He could have gone out there, John, to your point,

1382
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: taken him down, looked fantastic and exciting on the ground,

1383
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: and gotten the win. But instead it was fifteen minutes

1384
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: of punishment for your UFC debut. Right and now, like again,

1385
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 1: not saying he has a ton of time left.

1386
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 6: I don't think this is gonna take anything away from

1387
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 6: but maybe right, but maybe right.

1388
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Speaker 5: I mean we're trying to bow Nickel or the next

1389
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 5: All Action warrior.

1390
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Speaker 6: I love Cody right. And also it's the UFC.

1391
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: Dude, you get one, two, three fights in a row

1392
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: and you lost, You're out of here. I don't care

1393
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: if you're a good looking guy who's athletic and physical,

1394
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: like we have a ton of those guys, right.

1395
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 6: Anyways, and Wrongshow, aligning with City Kickbox saying Mike Angov

1396
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 6: has done a tremendous job with him, Eugene Bahm and

1397
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 6: as well, we congratulate wrong Zhu. I'm gonna toss out

1398
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 6: a few other names.

1399
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 5: I'll lead with Kenny and then go to Bry anybody

1400
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 5: else that you want to give some shine to feel free.

1401
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 5: And by the way, this six foot seven inch heavyweight

1402
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 5: talis in.

1403
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 6: To Sha, I'm not trying to get I'm.

1404
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 5: Not trying to get too excited because the fight was

1405
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 5: quick and justin Tafa looked like he had three training it's.

1406
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 6: For the fight. I'm just kidding.

1407
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 5: Put it a lot of time, but my gosh, all right,

1408
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 5: So Talisan Tesheda, I'll take anything you got on the

1409
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 5: draw between Jimmy Crute and Hudolpho Bolato, I would also

1410
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 5: throw out Gabriel moscatin Yo Santos would be a guy

1411
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 5: that I would like to maybe hear some analytics on.

1412
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 5: And then Alexandre Topuria, I thought, you know, look pretty

1413
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 5: goddamn clean against Colby Thickness. I know the expectations are

1414
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 5: always gonna be something he's chasing, but thirty twenty sevens

1415
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 5: across the board, so.

1416
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 6: Topuria can flow.

1417
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 5: Gabriel Santos, Jimmy Crute and Nulfho Blato, Talis and Teshaeda.

1418
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 6: Who you giving your sixty seconds, su kid, I'm gonna

1419
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 6: give it to Tasheda. Who who out there and man

1420
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 6: like I think for me, I was a little.

1421
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: Nervous for them to go out and like kind of

1422
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: strike because because Tafa, if he lands one big one,

1423
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: you could be in trouble.

1424
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 6: But to Shanda was so confident in there and was

1425
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 6: using the long range strikes. He came out aggressive. He

1426
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 6: didn't give any respect to Tafa. Took it right to.

1427
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,919
Speaker 1: Him, and that elbow from the cage was a thing

1428
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: of beauty just absolutely shattered, decimated.

1429
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 6: That nose of Tafa just crumble, just folded like a lawn.

1430
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: Chair, and to SHANEA just kind of walked away like

1431
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: a freaking warrior giant.

1432
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 6: And it was just an amazing performance.

1433
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 4: Man.

1434
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: He's young, he's big, he's aggressive, he's got a lot

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Speaker 1: of tools.

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01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 6: I can't wait to see him fight again. Man, that

1437
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 6: was awesome.

1438
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 5: And you would have loved our fighter meeting, right because

1439
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 5: he's an affable guy. He said he had three adrenaline

1440
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 5: dumps on the way down to the fighter meeting. The

1441
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 5: guy's like zero two a million. But he also said

1442
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna fight. How I thought on the Contender series,

1443
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 5: like I'm not getting touched, you know, like I'm gonna

1444
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 5: touch him.

1445
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna get touched.

1446
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 5: And thirty five seconds later he does not get touched.

1447
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 5: Six to seven Alexandre Topuria, Gabriel Santos, Creute Bellato BP,

1448
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 5: what jumps off the cad for you?

1449
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 6: Kid?

1450
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 3: So Crew Blotto I thought was a perfect scorecard. I

1451
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 3: thought that was a I think so too put Santos

1452
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 3: man Godly, I got that one wrong. I am a

1453
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 3: supporter of Jack Jenkins. I think Jack kings stuff is

1454
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 3: a stud look good in his first round, but physically

1455
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 3: Santo's look different.

1456
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 2: He looked huge in there and he got rocked.

1457
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 3: He got put down with a nasty head kick, and

1458
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 3: he just stay composed and then broke Jack Jenkins throughout

1459
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 3: that fight. Was not easy to do and again coming again.

1460
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 3: You know, he was what one and two in the

1461
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 3: UFC and I'm throwing shade at him for his record,

1462
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 3: but this guy fights a lot better than that, for sure.

1463
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 3: I mean Kenny saw that Kenny had that good solid pick.

1464
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 3: I missed it, but he impressed me big time in

1465
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 3: a big one five or with a lot of ability

1466
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 3: in an exciting I'm really curious to see where he's

1467
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 3: gonna go.

1468
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 6: All right, an amazing week in Sydney at UFC three twelve,

1469
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 6: to be sure. It's really cool to go to a

1470
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 6: place that loves mixed martial arts as much as those

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01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 6: people do.

1472
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 5: And I had a chance to spend a lot of

1473
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 5: time with the fans. Who was a very exciting fight

1474
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 5: week and we congratulate all the winner. It's going to

1475
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 5: be very interesting to see how some of these careers,

1476
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 5: especially for these young Aussies, play out like Quill and

1477
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 5: sal Killed and Jonathan mcayliff right there trying to you

1478
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 5: don't know what you have. And I think sometimes when

1479
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 5: we're all watching film on these fighters, what shows up

1480
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 5: for the UFC debut is completely different than the regional

1481
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 5: film that I'm sitting in my hotel room. So Jonathan

1482
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 5: mcayliff is a guy, it's like, oh shit, you know,

1483
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 5: maybe your expectations aren't what they should be. So congratulations

1484
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 5: to the city and everybody else. Streak is due plus

1485
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 5: C on down. All right, We're going to try to

1486
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 5: be expeditious with this, but I would like to break

1487
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 5: down seven fights today if I could, Guys, as we

1488
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 5: segue to the main event challenge UFC Fight and Canadia

1489
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 5: versus Rodriguez right back to at UFC APEX Saturday night

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01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 5: Live on ESPN Plus.

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01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 6: So the Bonfiem brothers are both on the cards.

1492
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 5: So I mean, we got to pick Gabriel Bonfime here

1493
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 5: minus two thirty against Chaos Williams, who comes back plus

1494
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 5: one ninety Brian will start with you. Bonfiem three and

1495
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,839
Speaker 5: one of the UFC still just twenty seven did rally

1496
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 5: back from that first pro loss to Nicholas Dalby, big

1497
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 5: number next to his name against for my money, kind

1498
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 5: of an underrated guy in Chaos Williams. What do he

1499
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 5: have for us on this one at one hundred and

1500
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 5: seventy pounds, kid.

1501
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll keep some of these predictions since we're doing

1502
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 3: seven little light there, john just because you're you're burning

1503
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 3: on both ends. I like Kass Williams here, listen, I

1504
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 3: just want more of them. He only fights kind of

1505
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 3: once a year. Need to see more. His grappling defense

1506
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 3: looks pretty good. I think bon Freeing is going to

1507
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 3: put a lot of big pressure on him.

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01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 2: You run into something against Chaos Williams.

1509
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 3: I mean leg I mean he's you legally change his

1510
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 3: name to Chaos, right, and they accepted it, like yeah,

1511
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 3: that makes sense. You run into something to this guy

1512
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 3: and you're gonna get put out. It's not the cleanest

1513
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 3: technique in the world, but man, he played his feet

1514
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,799
Speaker 3: similar to Anthony Johnson and it thumps. Gimme kaos Williams.

1515
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 3: And I love the fact that he's plus one ninety.

1516
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 3: That is something that I'll be looking at for sure.

1517
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 6: Did he really change his name from kaitln legally?

1518
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 2: I think I think I saw so I could be

1519
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 2: that might be real.

1520
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 6: So he's one four of his last five. Can Flow

1521
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 6: has Chaos Williams.

1522
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 5: I really like him, just hasn't competed all that much

1523
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 5: of late last fight, the knockout of Carlston Harris may

1524
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 5: have last year.

1525
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 6: What do you think? Can Flow talk to us? Oh?

1526
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: Chaos with the k Yeah, listen, I'm with you, Brian,

1527
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Brian. You know my hit Genia. You

1528
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 1: know he's he's uh, you know, the nickname is a

1529
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: little hammer. But is he the nail? Can't he be

1530
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: the nail? I don't know.

1531
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,759
Speaker 6: Chaos Williams, he hits you, dude, He puts you to sleep.

1532
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,759
Speaker 1: And I think Barb Fieme has a lot of talent,

1533
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 1: but sometimes he can lose his focus a little bit,

1534
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 1: and if he gets into these exchanges with William Williams,

1535
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: he could be in trouble.

1536
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 6: So with Brian on Chaos.

1537
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 5: Very interesting, Chaos Williams can be had plus one ninety

1538
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 5: on Draftking Sportsbook not now but right now, all right.

1539
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 5: Last of two prelim picks here strawaight tilt, Angela Hill

1540
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 5: minus won twenty five, Kaitlyn Sosa plus one oh five.

1541
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 6: This is not even the featured prelm.

1542
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 5: You know why we're picking this fight, guys, It's a

1543
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 5: career appreciation prediction for the body of work of Angela

1544
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 5: over Kill Hill.

1545
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 6: She's spot twenty six times in.

1546
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 5: The UFC Bride, so we're gonna give her some shine

1547
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 5: on the Anakin Flooring podcast. She is a woman, she

1548
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 5: is forty. She goes for a third win in her

1549
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 5: last four here against Manousa's Sosa. What do you think,

1550
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 5: short Price? You have an ass love it?

1551
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean forty thirty twenty. Angela Hills looked the

1552
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,560
Speaker 3: best she's ever looked. Incredible shape, exciting fighter. I'm a

1553
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 3: huge Angela Hill fan. I'm all over here. This is

1554
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 3: either UFC things a lot of Kaitlyn Soso or this

1555
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 3: is like we're giving Angela Hill bone because I mean

1556
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 3: the resumes alone is crazy. And what I've seen on

1557
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 3: tape from Kitln SUSA is she's a complable fighter, but

1558
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 3: I don't think she has anything that's gonna really worry

1559
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 3: Angela Hill. Here, Angela Hill is nasty in the clinch,

1560
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 3: She's cleaned up her grappling. I hope she gets a

1561
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 3: big time finished because she's been so close to getting

1562
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 3: those she wobbles girls. She gets girls or cardio or

1563
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 3: motors there. So I want to finish by Angela Hill,

1564
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 3: but low price minus one twenty five added to my card.

1565
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 2: I love it.

1566
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 6: Angela Hill is twelve and fourteen in the UFC. That

1567
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 6: doesn't do her performance as justice. She's coming off a

1568
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 6: loss to Baby Shark tabath ricci So's has won two

1569
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 6: straight since she was knee barred by Karini Silver in

1570
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 6: her twenty twenty three UFC debut, and last went for

1571
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 6: her pretty much as good as it gets a submission

1572
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,759
Speaker 6: of Yasmin Howard, he gets fear last September can flow

1573
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 6: straweights on the prelims. Who do you Love? Yeah?

1574
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: I know it was the submission, but really it was

1575
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: set up by that huge left hook. I believe it

1576
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: was just a nasty shot, very very rare to see

1577
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: a little woman with that kind of power.

1578
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 6: My goodness, I'm a big Angela Hill fan as well.

1579
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,560
Speaker 1: She does so many things well, and you know, for

1580
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 1: a woman with a seventeen and fourteen record, she has

1581
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: to be the best mixed martial arts fighter on the planet.

1582
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: With a seventeen and fourteen record, she does a lot

1583
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 1: of things Well, she's been extremely durable throughout her career,

1584
01:12:56,120 --> 01:13:00,679
Speaker 1: shown big time improvements. Yeah, this one's a tough one.

1585
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: I think he'll there's no question that he'll can pull

1586
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: this one off. I'm gonna lean towards Soza though here.

1587
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 1: I think maybe she squeezes out a decision, but would

1588
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: love to see Angela Hill get it done here all.

1589
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 5: Right, on a Monday, we will pick five of the

1590
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 5: six main card fights for UFC Fighting Not Cannoneer Versus

1591
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 5: Rodriguez at middleweight Hudulpho VI eight to Monus two twenty five.

1592
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 5: Andre Petrowski plus one eighty five VIEIGHTA thirty five. He

1593
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 5: has won all five of his UFC fights by submission.

1594
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 5: That's included. That includes his last win over Armen Petrozzian

1595
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 5: by armed triangle. That was a year ago today, Bryce,

1596
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 5: So it's been a while and now the multi time

1597
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 5: BJJ and ADCC champion returns against Philadelphia's Andre Petrowsky.

1598
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 6: What do you have for us on the eighty five

1599
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 6: or skid?

1600
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so grappler verus grappler, which means the good of strike.

1601
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 6: Right.

1602
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 3: The only problem with that is is Petrotsky he's laying

1603
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 3: at six takedowns in his last two fights. He's had

1604
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 3: one fight in UFC where you'releaning eight. This guy, no

1605
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 3: matter what, likes to take it to the ground. However,

1606
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 3: I think he's a little a little soft on the feet, right.

1607
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 3: I mean, he went against a fellow grappler and Jacob

1608
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 3: Malcoun and just got worked and kind of got clipped

1609
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 3: by a guy who's not fancy striker. Now I'm not

1610
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 3: saying Rodolph of Viea is. However, Vienna is a dog

1611
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 3: in there. He threw He layed eighty six strikes against

1612
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 3: Chris Curtis when he couldn't land a takedown, and he's

1613
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 3: really cleaning up his car.

1614
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 2: He is a big, strong guy. I'm very curious to

1615
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 2: hear how Kenny breaks this down.

1616
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 3: Because he's a Brazilian, he's usually two black belt, triple

1617
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 3: black belt. Whatever he is, Vienna obviously on top. Most

1618
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 3: jiu jitsu practitioners want to be on top. I'm curious

1619
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 3: how he is off his back because Petroski, I think,

1620
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 3: is the bigger, maybe slightly bigger, better wrestler, so there

1621
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 3: might be a chance for Vienna to be working off

1622
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 3: his back. So I'm really curious how that's gonna play here,

1623
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 3: because some guys you can be a tenth degree black,

1624
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 3: but you get put in your back. It's not it's

1625
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 3: not really their bread and butter. But I think here,

1626
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 3: I like him here, I like the number. I thought

1627
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 3: we were gonna get him a little lower, if I'm

1628
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 3: being honest with you.

1629
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 2: But you know, Vegas is smart nowadays, so give me vi.

1630
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, that price seemingly continues to swell. That's my favorite

1631
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 5: surname to hear BP pronounce. On the other side, you

1632
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 5: have Andre Petrowski, likely a Philadelphia Eagles fan. Congratulations to

1633
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 5: the Birds. His last four wins Kenny have all been

1634
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 5: by decision after he began his UFC career with three

1635
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 5: straight finishes, So it seems like the Ada maybe the

1636
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 5: more prolific finisher in this equation. What he have for

1637
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 5: us on the middleweights?

1638
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brian, you know I'm the Brazilian jiu jitsu black

1639
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: belt over here, former professional mixed.

1640
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 6: Martial arts fighter.

1641
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm the analyst guy, okay, and for this fight, I

1642
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 1: have no idea what's gonna happen.

1643
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 6: You know, hanulfol Vienna, you know I love.

1644
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 1: The improvements he's made. He looked so much better on

1645
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: the feet, looks way more comfortable. He doesn't seem gun shy,

1646
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 1: not afraid of getting hit or getting hurt now, So

1647
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: I like that as far as it changes. And as

1648
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 1: John mentioned, I like the fact that he really is

1649
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: bringing his Brazilian jiu jitsu submission game to the table

1650
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 1: now and being a legitimate threat. How he approaches this

1651
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 1: Petrosky fight is going to be interesting because Petrowsky is

1652
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: most likely going to try to avoid the ground and

1653
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 1: look for some huge hammers on the feet and try

1654
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 1: to rock Vienna. Now, Petrotski doesn't stay so busy sometimes,

1655
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: and Vienna might be able to steal some rounds with

1656
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 1: his striking a little bit, but his defense is not

1657
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 1: something I'm terribly confident in. So and if they go

1658
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 1: to the ground, I could see Petrosky potentially nullifying that

1659
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: that game from Viea. So how Viena approaches the ground game,

1660
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 1: how he approaches the striking, I'm not exactly sure. He's

1661
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: gonna have to come in with a very smart game plan. However,

1662
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,640
Speaker 1: I've been kind of like I've been kind of you know,

1663
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: I haven't been.

1664
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 6: On the Vienna train completely.

1665
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,640
Speaker 1: But I'm getting back on I like the fact that

1666
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: he's showing improvements. I expect those improvements to continue. I

1667
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 1: like Handulfo viea here.

1668
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 5: Let's go well, And if you were trying to be

1669
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 5: political on the Anakin Flowing podcast over the years, you.

1670
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 6: Would have picked the ATA repeatedly. Right.

1671
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 5: And by the way, you did a podcast recently and

1672
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 5: somebody said to you the man's names escaping me that

1673
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 5: I never called you k Swiss for the record, right,

1674
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know that you knew and joh, I

1675
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 5: never called you Kase Swiss anyway, inside joke, fucking deal

1676
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 5: with it, Karen Portley, you know what we're talking about.

1677
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 6: All right now?

1678
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,759
Speaker 5: Lightweight twenty nine year old is smae El bon Fime

1679
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 5: out of Brazil or Brazil. I think public perception really

1680
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 5: differs as to just how high his ceiling is. He's

1681
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 5: the minus one seventy five favorite here against black Wolf

1682
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 5: thirty year old Nazine Satakov. Of course, Longo's guy comes

1683
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 5: back here plus one forty five.

1684
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 6: Brian will start with you as usual.

1685
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 5: Bonfime, limited to just one appearance last year, was a

1686
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 5: win over events from hell Pachell in Brazil UFC three

1687
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 5: to ZHO one and that was ten months after he

1688
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 5: got submitted by Ben was sant Denis your thoughts on

1689
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 5: bon theme here against Nazim Sadakov.

1690
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 3: I feel like Michael Scott over here with those little

1691
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 3: inside jokes. I just smiled through. Sorry, I'm just going

1692
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 3: to smile through it.

1693
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 6: You know, Hey, No, you deserve to know.

1694
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 5: There was a time where one of our bosses joked

1695
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 5: at ESPN that Kenny was k Swiss as in k

1696
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 5: Switzerland as then he would sit on the fence, but

1697
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 5: he was fighting all these guys and like right neutral

1698
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 5: because he didn't feel like giving picks on national self

1699
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 5: when he was fighting all these guys or might be

1700
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 5: fighting these guys, so like he didn't want to pick

1701
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 5: a Frank Edgar fight, I think because he was probably

1702
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 5: gonna fight Frank.

1703
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 6: He was never right. So that's the Joe, that's all.

1704
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 2: And you never called him that. You're not on the

1705
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 2: record call in case.

1706
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 5: With Hebbi, I'm the president of the team, you know.

1707
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 6: I don't take shots at Kenny.

1708
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 8: No.

1709
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 3: I love it, but I love this side as well,

1710
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 3: because you know, Bob his brothers are fighting.

1711
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 2: But I really like nas right.

1712
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 3: And I know it's a ray Longo guy, and anybody

1713
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 3: we pick Ray Longo, it's like.

1714
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 2: Get off your knees, blah blah blah.

1715
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 3: I really like nos and I know he doesn't have

1716
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 3: like the greatest resume currently in the UFC. I mean

1717
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,600
Speaker 3: he hasn't lost, but his performances have been like, you know,

1718
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 3: he almost lost the Evan Elder fight, but then the

1719
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 3: cut and then he has a draw and we haven't

1720
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 3: seen him a little bit. But this is a wide body,

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01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 3: thick dude who has good take down the fence, good cardio,

1722
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 3: and is good on.

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01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 2: The ground his strikings there.

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01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 3: I just feel like sometimes he's a little too patient, right,

1725
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 3: and I want him to kind of flip that kill

1726
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 3: switch on just a little bit and hopefully, I mean,

1727
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 3: Rai's one of the greatest of all time. He's working

1728
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 3: with nas on that as finding the kill swit here,

1729
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 3: because I think there's gonna be openings on bombfiend, who

1730
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 3: is all action. He's not really defensive minded. He wants

1731
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 3: to get you out of there, if not kill or

1732
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 3: be killed Kamakazi. So I like nas at plus one

1733
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 3: forty five here as well. This could be like a

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01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 3: really kind of sneaky like parlay piece out there for

1735
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 3: plus one forty five if you really want to throw

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01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 3: some plus money into parlay and really juice that fucking thing.

1737
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 3: I'm a straight rager man myself, But for the parlay

1738
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 3: lovers out there, I like Nas here. I think Nas

1739
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 3: is gonna is gonna win this by decision, maybe even

1740
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 3: a finish in like second or third round of Bomfiinen

1741
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 3: slows down.

1742
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 2: But give me Nas.

1743
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 5: Feels so weird to go from the pageantry of Kudos

1744
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,600
Speaker 5: Bank Arena in Sydney to the UFC Apex and have

1745
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 5: it be the same sport. Right as I think about

1746
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 5: these guys, how talented they are competing at the Apex, right,

1747
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 5: Satakov ken flow Azerbaijan nine to one and one as

1748
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:53,759
Speaker 5: a pro has yet to lose in the octagon.

1749
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 6: His biggest test against bon Fieme, how do you see

1750
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:57,679
Speaker 6: a plan out? Yeah, Brian, I'm with you on this one.

1751
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 1: I think bon Fien has a lot of firepower, but

1752
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 1: so does Sadakov, and I think Nas is better defensively

1753
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: as well. That's my concern for bomb Fime is he'll

1754
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 1: finish a combination in his hands, will kind of drop

1755
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 1: a little bit, and Nas will not forgive. He will

1756
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: go right back at you. And if bomb Fim is

1757
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,600
Speaker 1: getting lazy like that, and this isn't something that he

1758
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: does every once in a while, it's something he does consistently,

1759
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 1: so that's a concern for me. I think this is

1760
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,919
Speaker 1: a nice spot here for nas as the underdog.

1761
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 6: So I'm with you, all right.

1762
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 5: Three picks to go, Thanks to everybody joining us live here.

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01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 5: Today on the Anakin Florming podcast on YouTube featured a

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Speaker 5: bout of middleweight features Edmund Shabazian minus three p forty

1765
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 5: taking on Dylan Budka plus two to seventy.

1766
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 6: Shabazian is still only twenty seven eleven UFC fights already.

1767
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 5: Certainly, I don't tell you guys, he's been played by

1768
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 5: some inconsistency really dating to that twenty twenty stoppage loss

1769
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 5: to Derek Brunson. Last fight a submission loss to Gerald

1770
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 5: Mershark that was last August.

1771
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 6: Ken Flow, we'll have you lead us here.

1772
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 5: Your thoughts on Shabazi in the near three and a

1773
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 5: half to one favorite at Dylan Budka.

1774
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, Yeah, with Shabazi and you're not quite sure

1775
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get, especially when he's going against another

1776
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,640
Speaker 1: guy who has that grappling background. Now with Budka, it

1777
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 1: seems like he do you kind of contend to, you know,

1778
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 1: kind of strike from the outside and then look for

1779
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: a takedown here and there. But I don't know, I

1780
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 1: think that that really could be a problem for him

1781
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 1: if he decides to take that approach. I think he

1782
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 1: needs to go heavy with the grappling, try to put

1783
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: Shabazi in on his back. But Shabazi in early is very,

1784
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 1: very dangerous, and I think he has you know, improved

1785
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot when it comes to his grappling

1786
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,879
Speaker 1: in some ways. He does fade still late in fights.

1787
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: But give me Shabazi in here, all right.

1788
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 6: Dylan Budka on the other side, born and raised in Baltimore, Maryland.

1789
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 6: Attended Notre Dame College in Ohio for wrestling.

1790
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 5: He was born in the year two thousand, so twenty

1791
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 5: five years of age oh and two.

1792
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 6: In the UFC. Your thoughts on him here, Brian against

1793
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 6: Edwin Shabazian.

1794
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes a kapper's got to take all the

1795
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 3: analytics and to the side. This is a number play boys.

1796
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 3: I mean, Dylan Bucker plus two seventy is juicy. Chabazian

1797
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 3: should win this. He's the more talented guy for sure,

1798
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 3: but what he's done in the octagon is a good

1799
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 3: first round. Then he finds he had a great first

1800
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 3: round against Meerstar where he almost finished him and then

1801
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 3: he faded.

1802
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:17,600
Speaker 2: That's kind of the mL on.

1803
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 3: Shabazi and wouldn't be sur surprised as Sabazian just steam

1804
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 3: rolls them.

1805
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 2: But this is a number play of taking Dylan Bucka.

1806
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 3: Dylan Bucker strikes me as a guy who is a

1807
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 3: fucking animal in the gym, right, All the guys in

1808
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 3: our gym like, lookly this guy. And then when he

1809
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 3: gets in the cage, something doesn't click. You know that

1810
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 3: happens sometimes it just doesn't click. Hopefully he clicks and

1811
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 3: we can cast his number here at plus two seventy.

1812
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 6: I like it.

1813
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 5: I'm going Bucka nicely done, all right, Cole main event

1814
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 5: will go right back to you, Briy. Perhaps a changing

1815
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,839
Speaker 5: of the guard fight at featherweight here Yusuf Salale wopping

1816
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 5: minus three ninety five betting favorite against a perennially ranked contender,

1817
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 5: Calvin Cator. He can be had plus three ten zalaaut

1818
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 5: of Casablanca, Morocco, twenty eight years of age, look like

1819
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 5: a completely different beast, right YEA. During this second UFC

1820
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 5: stint to Perfect three and zero and twenty twenty four

1821
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 5: submissions of Billy Q, jarn o' Aarons, and Jack Shore,

1822
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 5: Oddsmaker's paying attention, bry the question is or you.

1823
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 3: Yep, America? Look in my eyes right now? Three ninety

1824
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 3: five doesn't scare me a fucking bit. I love the

1825
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 3: law here. This guy most improved fighter. I mean seriously,

1826
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 3: like he illiotipoort a debut against this guy in the

1827
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 3: UFC and struggle right the only fight he's ever struggled

1828
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 3: in the UFC. I know there's a while ago, but

1829
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 3: the law was young, a little immature. People in the

1830
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 3: camp were like, this guy needs to get a go

1831
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 3: when he lost three in a row, how to draw

1832
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 3: got kicked out USC?

1833
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 6: What does he do?

1834
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm just gonna go finish everybody, get back and

1835
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 3: start finishing dudes in the UFC. I love this kid

1836
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 3: here in this spot. Three ninety five doesn't scare me

1837
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,799
Speaker 3: a lit. Calvin Kator I think is a very good boxer.

1838
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 3: I think the kN injury a couple of years ago,

1839
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 3: about two years ago now is still it's hard to

1840
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 3: come back from that. But he's not a big kicker.

1841
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 3: I think the law can grapple, right, I think he

1842
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 3: can strike. I think his cardials from penomenal. I think

1843
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 3: his fine IQ's there. I think he's explosive. I am

1844
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 3: late to the excuse me, I'm not gonna say his

1845
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 3: first name, butcherin. I'm late to the Zalal train. So

1846
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 3: if you've been riding that train forever, please make room

1847
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 3: for me, because I'm fucking hopping on. Okay, I love

1848
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 3: this guy. This is like my lock for the week.

1849
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 3: I know it's almost four hundred and I'm gonna give

1850
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 3: it out these cheesy four hundred locks, but man, I

1851
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 3: do love this kid a lot. So after the Cody

1852
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 3: Steel last week, maybe you should faby and take Cater,

1853
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 3: But I feel it, baby Field in the balls, Let's.

1854
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 5: Go all right, yussef Zlal with conviction for Brian, maybe

1855
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 5: the proposition market will be something that you wet your

1856
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 5: beak with.

1857
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:40,799
Speaker 6: Pretty significant fall from grace for Calvin.

1858
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 5: Cater at one point thought maybe he might get into

1859
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 5: that conversation with Kenny Flory and Rob font as the

1860
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 5: greatest fighters out of the state of Massachusetts, but he's

1861
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 5: essentially five hundred now Kenny, despite the amazing strength of

1862
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 5: schedule after starting four in one of the UFC's seven

1863
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 5: and six and just one win since that fateful lost

1864
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 5: to Max Holloway in twenty twenty one. Be an interesting

1865
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 5: clash of styles can flow. How do you see a

1866
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 5: plan out between Zilaal and Calvin Cater.

1867
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 1: Well, Calvincator is such a good and tough kid man,

1868
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 1: and this is a really tough fight for him.

1869
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 6: You know, Zilaal is He's kind of.

1870
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 1: A full package man. He's a really smart fighter, he

1871
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 1: can do it all. He's athletic, he's fast, he's a

1872
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: potent finisher as well. And Calvin Cator's best shot is

1873
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: to try to make this a battle of durability. He

1874
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: needs to kind of make it a nasty fight. And

1875
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 1: the problem with that is that Calvin Cator has had

1876
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 1: a lot of those nasty fights and perhaps doesn't have

1877
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 1: that same kind of durability that he hit that he

1878
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 1: had when he came into the UFC. Still has the

1879
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:45,639
Speaker 1: same level of toughness, but Zilaal is just really really

1880
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: technical everywhere. I would love to see Cater kind of

1881
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:52,920
Speaker 1: turn back the clock. But za La is a problem.

1882
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 6: Man.

1883
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 1: He's not only a problem for Cater, He's a problem,

1884
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,919
Speaker 1: I think for pretty much everyone in that division.

1885
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 6: I think he's that good and that talented. So I'm

1886
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 6: gonna go with zilaal.

1887
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 5: Here yusef Zila going for a seventh straight win overall

1888
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,519
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Speaker 5: I think he deserves the distinction, maybe closer to who

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Speaker 5: was fighting prime Thn Cannoneer, who will be forty one

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Speaker 5: next month. Cannoneir, Bryce, that's a lot of himself in

1933
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 5: this UFC career eighteen UFC fights spanning three divisions, he

1934
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 5: has lost two in a row. Your thoughts on what

1935
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 5: Cannoneir might be able to bring the table here as

1936
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 5: the underdog against the streaking Gregory hobo Coop Hadriguez.

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Speaker 3: I'm not you know, I know this used to be

1938
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 3: tied to like political things. I'm not a political guy.

1939
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 3: But can I see Gregory Roriguez's birth certificate because he's

1940
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 3: sixty years younger than Yeah, no knock on Gregory Rodriguez,

1941
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Speaker 3: but the man and I've.

1942
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Speaker 5: Never picked on the birth certificate front so long way Lee,

1943
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 5: I might have heard me reference it on the broadcast,

1944
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 5: but I said, you're thirty five now in the fighter meeting,

1945
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 5: and she interrupted with interpretation to tell me she was

1946
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Speaker 5: thirty four. So I bring that to the attention of

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Speaker 5: TOM'SERBASR researcher, and he has a picture of her passport,

1948
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 5: but John Waye Lee insists that her passport is wrong.

1949
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 5: So UFC made a decision to go with the passport,

1950
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 5: and verbally, I've made a decision to go in another direction.

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Speaker 3: As you love it, Yeah, I mean some people on

1952
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 3: the Underground MMA underground and made a TV the legendary they.

1953
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 2: Used to the last time I spawned there. They work.

1954
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 3: Convince Francis Agani was like, really like forty seven. They're like,

1955
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 3: there's no way he's that anyway, I digress. Uh love

1956
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 3: this fight. I don't love it.

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01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 2: For Cannon Near.

1958
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 3: I think he's taken a couple beatings pretty quick for

1959
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 3: being a guy over forty. He did not look at

1960
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 3: his last time out. He got hurt pretty much and

1961
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 3: he almost finished hard for days. The guy's a stud.

1962
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 3: But then he got put out by Emonoff a mob

1963
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:30,560
Speaker 3: of excuse me, John, excuse me John Uh and RoboCop Uh.

1964
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 3: This fucking guy can't get I never pick him right.

1965
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 3: My worst bet on this show, I mean you can

1966
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 3: say that, Cody Steele, whatever, I just be on the

1967
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 3: show was Brad Tavares over RoboCop by knockout, no knock

1968
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 3: on Bratavarus.

1969
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 2: Brad Tavarus is a phenomenal fighter.

1970
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 3: But that's the one where people still might chirp me

1971
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 3: a little bit because I've never been on the robot

1972
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 3: Cop train. It's like when it's like when running back

1973
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 3: fumbles once and you have no stats to back it up,

1974
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 3: but every time he touched the bar a fumble. Greg

1975
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 3: Grabriguez got knock out by Jordan Williams, and I just

1976
01:29:58,000 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 3: can't get that out of my fucking head.

1977
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 2: It's gone though, right, we use some stage.

1978
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 3: We got that out of my head. I like Gregor

1979
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 3: Ariguez here. I just think in close his boxing's phenomenal.

1980
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 3: His combinations are really good. I think both guys have

1981
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 3: a little bit of a chin issue if I'm being honest,

1982
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 3: and I think if Gregorriguez gets in trouble, he has

1983
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 3: the better grappling. The younger, more fresher fighter as well.

1984
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 3: I like RoboCop here. This is a long time coming

1985
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 3: because he isn't a really exciting fighter. Yeah, and he's

1986
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:25,719
Speaker 3: getting a good main event spot here, and I'm excited

1987
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 3: about it. And I think he's gonna do good two

1988
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 3: A five downe scare me and I'll put him in

1989
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:29,679
Speaker 3: a parlay.

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Speaker 2: Love it, give me a robot cop.

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Speaker 6: Nicely done.

1992
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 5: Brian Rodrigueze Shiny seven and two in the UFC can Flow.

1993
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 5: He's won three in a row to actualize this first

1994
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 5: UFC main event. Last win came against Christian Leroy Duncan

1995
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 5: UFC three to zero four and on the other side,

1996
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 5: six straight main event and or five rounder for Jared

1997
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 5: Cannon here. He's got a lot of experience at the

1998
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 5: APEX can Flow. Your thoughts on the main event.

1999
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 1: I think Brian Petrie summarized everything that I was thinking

2000
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 1: and that I was going to say pretty much. So

2001
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 1: I don't have a whole lot to add, but that

2002
01:30:58,120 --> 01:30:59,680
Speaker 1: that's kind of the way I see it, and that's

2003
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,679
Speaker 1: the way I saw Gregory Hedriguez before.

2004
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Speaker 6: Was like, I wasn't on that train. I wasn't sure,

2005
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 6: you know, what is this guy legit? Is he not?

2006
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 1: And yeah, you know sometimes his chin can be questionable

2007
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 1: right now, cannoneer where he's at at this point of.

2008
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 6: His career, he can be rocked too.

2009
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 1: And I see Herodriguez just being kind of the fresher guy.

2010
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 1: I think physically a little bit more capable as well.

2011
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: And and like Brian said, I think he's gonna be

2012
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:29,719
Speaker 1: way more capable if this fight does hit the ground.

2013
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 1: You not not only with his positioning, but his ability

2014
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:35,840
Speaker 1: to utilize ground and pounded submissions. And that that's where

2015
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 1: he really has the advantage here against Cannon Ear and.

2016
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, gimme hobo, he's going to win. That's very good.

2017
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 6: I love that one. As I've said, if Kenny did

2018
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 6: that for an hour, he would have a lot from

2019
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 6: me and my twin brother are our final act. You

2020
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 6: know what it is.

2021
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2026
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Speaker 5: next week after the predictions for UFC Fight Night Kennedy

2027
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Speaker 5: or Versus Rodriguez. You get one thousand dollars for the

2028
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Speaker 5: fight Night's three thousand dollars for the pay per views,

2029
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Speaker 5: one thousand dollars. Brian Petrie, We will take your wagers

2030
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Speaker 5: at any time.

2031
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 3: Saying, on a second, I'm just trying to find a

2032
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,679
Speaker 3: ladder to buy to get me out of this fucking hole.

2033
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 6: Just wipe and clean. It's been a little bit of

2034
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:42,639
Speaker 6: an uneven start to write. Listen, and so anytime.

2035
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 3: And I don't want to make excuses. I'm not an

2036
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 3: excuse guy. But can we get Kenny Florian's mustache tested

2037
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 3: for steroids? I mean me and going against this guy

2038
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 3: in a pick competition with that thing going on, this.

2039
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 2: Is crazy, all right?

2040
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 3: So last week I loaded up on one guy, put

2041
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 3: my eggs in one basket, bad me. Let's go five

2042
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:02,720
Speaker 3: hundred my guys, a law, five hundreds of law. Get

2043
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 3: a couple of bucks out of that.

2044
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 6: Give me two.

2045
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 3: Hundred on Angela Hill. I believe in her, I love her.

2046
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 3: Give me another two hundred on that doll Chaos Williams.

2047
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 3: And then just for shits and gigs, give me one

2048
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 3: hundred bucks on RoboCop by Kyo.

2049
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 2: I'll get you that line by the end of the week.

2050
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:20,640
Speaker 6: Johnny like absolutely love it.

2051
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, that RoboCop by knockout proposition will probably be tasty

2052
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 5: for some and available on Draftking Sportsbook later in the week.

2053
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:29,839
Speaker 5: All Right, Kenny Florian, who did not put three thousand

2054
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:33,640
Speaker 5: large on Cody Steele last week? Who do you have

2055
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:35,559
Speaker 5: this weekend flow for a thousand bucks?

2056
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 6: Oh Man?

2057
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 1: Last year, I had a pretty good lead and then

2058
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:42,639
Speaker 1: it deteriorated very quickly. All Right, So I'm gonna put

2059
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars on Chaos Williams. Okay, bring that chaos.

2060
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 1: I'm putting not five hundred odds a law. I'm putting

2061
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 1: six hundred odds a law because I'm a one upper.

2062
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 1: That's what I had written down here. Okay, six hundred

2063
01:33:55,400 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 1: odds a law. And then uh, three hundred jawers on

2064
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 1: Hoby Hobby Cloppie Man.

2065
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 5: All right, appe straight wagers for Ken Flokaos, Williams, Yusuf Zelal,

2066
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 5: and Gregory Robocopper Rodriguez. Our chief handicapper is Brian Petrie.

2067
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 5: Be sure to check out his MMA Takes podcast and

2068
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 5: on x He is at Brian Petrie Mma. He's also

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Speaker 5: on Instagram as well. Much love brother, appreciate your time

2070
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 5: as always, and uh, we're gonna be busy here for

2071
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 5: several weeks, and wrote look forward to talking to you

2072
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:22,599
Speaker 5: next Monday.

2073
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 6: Good sir, I.

2074
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:23,800
Speaker 2: Can't wait for it.

2075
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 6: Boys.

2076
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,679
Speaker 3: Good seeing you in prime time, Johnny. Get some sleep,

2077
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 3: budd you need it.

2078
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 6: Love you guys man, Thank you, Buddy.

2079
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:30,760
Speaker 5: I kind of like the prime time feel, but we

2080
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 5: try to get the content out to the masses as

2081
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 5: soon as humanly possible. Thanks to Domina Cruz for joining

2082
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 5: us off the top of the show. I lied about

2083
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 5: all the nice things I was going to say to

2084
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:40,560
Speaker 5: him actually at the end of the show. But we

2085
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 5: will have time, I think, over the course of the

2086
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:44,720
Speaker 5: next couple of weeks to maybe have him back and

2087
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 5: put some some shine on some of the things he did.

2088
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 6: Thanks to Ray long Go, thanks to Brian Petrie Are Fine.

2089
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 5: Executive producer is Cody Merrow, and thanks to everybody indulging

2090
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Speaker 5: us live. Thanks to all the good folks on the

2091
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:57,720
Speaker 5: ground in Australia, and thanks to Ken Flow for just

2092
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 5: bringing up the whole room with that unbelievable aesthetic. Today

2093
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Speaker 5: we're right back in your lives next Monday, live here

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Speaker 5: on the DraftKings Network in the DraftKings YouTube channel. Don't

2095
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:09,120
Speaker 5: forget to check out remember the show with Pula Mohammed

2096
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Speaker 5: and Jason aik Over on the Anicamploring Podcast YouTube channel.

2097
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 5: Until next time, we love you, tell you moms about

2098
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 5: the show. Thanks for watching.

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Speaker 6: You later

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Speaker 3: Gone