Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to woke f Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody recording from the Brooklyn Bunker. So, folks,
Speaker 1: once again, news has broken that Donald Trump has broken
Speaker 1: the law. Once again, that Donald Trump's crime spree from before, during,
Speaker 1: and after his disgraceful term as president of these United
Speaker 1: States fucking continues. The New York Times has reported that, oh,
Speaker 1: along with packing up i'm sure all of his McDonald's
Speaker 1: rappers and packages and red fucking ties, that he also
Speaker 1: happened to pack up a bunch of you know, top
Speaker 1: secret documents and information that should have remained with the
Speaker 1: National Archives, and that the National Archives apparently has been
Speaker 1: negotiating with Donald Trump for over a year now in
Speaker 1: order to get those you know, documents returned. I'm going
Speaker 1: to get into a conversation with our friend Glenn Kirshner,
Speaker 1: and you know, I will tell you that in the year,
Speaker 1: in the two years that we have been in regular
Speaker 1: conversation with Glenn, Glenn has always been my He's always
Speaker 1: been my beacon. He's always you restored my faith that
Speaker 1: we need to keep pushing forward and that you know,
Speaker 1: justice indeed matters, and that it will prevail, even now
Speaker 1: though Glenn is beginning to look around and wonder what
Speaker 1: the hell is going on with the Department of Justice.
Speaker 1: The Department of Justice when they walked in, had all
Speaker 1: of the documentation from the Muller Report, had all of
Speaker 1: the documentation that had been done over the last four
Speaker 1: years of the Trump had been stration that they could
Speaker 1: have rolled out indictments after Joe Biden had put his
Speaker 1: hand on the Bible and became the forty the forty
Speaker 1: six president of the United States, but instead they decided
Speaker 1: not to. And we'll have a conversation today about how
Speaker 1: this administration, Department of Justice, and both parties, Democrat and Republican,
Speaker 1: continue to want to turn the page on the Trump
Speaker 1: administration and on the one six insurrection. And I'm saying,
Speaker 1: how the fuck did we get here when we're the
Speaker 1: only ones right, the citizens of these United States are
Speaker 1: the only ones that actually still give a damn about justice,
Speaker 1: that give a damn about accountability. So, on one hand,
Speaker 1: you have Republicans that want to turn the page. They
Speaker 1: don't want the RNC to bring up the fact that,
Speaker 1: you know, they believe that one six was rightful political discourse, justifiable,
Speaker 1: political discourse. They want to be able to move forward
Speaker 1: so that they can once again take power. We're not
Speaker 1: as a way to advance, you know, the American people,
Speaker 1: not as a way to ease our day to day lives,
Speaker 1: but so that they can, you know, have their moment
Speaker 1: in the sun to reactivate their long standing grudges against
Speaker 1: Democrats for having the audacity to want to hold the
Speaker 1: forty fifth president of the United States to account for
Speaker 1: his fucking crimes. Right, and so instead of pursuing policy
Speaker 1: that would help our lives be at easier for us
Speaker 1: to come to the table as a more equitable and
Speaker 1: just society. We know what Republicans are going to do
Speaker 1: right when they get the gavel back, and so that's
Speaker 1: the reason why they don't. They want to turn the
Speaker 1: page right and move forward. But then you have Democrats,
Speaker 1: who we all stood out and fucking line for risk
Speaker 1: our lives at the height of a health pandemic in
Speaker 1: order to vote in accountability and responsibility, also wanting to
Speaker 1: turn the page because they want to talk about bigger
Speaker 1: agenda and bigger plans for the American people. Folks, I
Speaker 1: can tell you that there is no bigger agenda. Then
Speaker 1: ensuring that the rule of law is not just for
Speaker 1: those that have no money and those that are marginalized
Speaker 1: or those that don't have the right kind of complexion, right,
Speaker 1: too much melanin in order to be seen as innocent
Speaker 1: before guilty. Right, that the rule of law in this
Speaker 1: country is something that, regardless of Donald Trump's attempts and
Speaker 1: the attempts of this cult the Republican Party, that we
Speaker 1: would in fact make sure that people in this country
Speaker 1: have a restored faith in their Department of Justice, in
Speaker 1: their government to do what's right even when it is uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: Now we know right now that Republican's new favorite word
Speaker 1: is discomfort. We don't want white people to feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: We don't want white people to have to come face
Speaker 1: to face with their own fucking book bullshit. Right. So
Speaker 1: this is where we are where I will say, and
Speaker 1: you'll hear in this interview with Glenn where I'm just
Speaker 1: like you know, are we at a place where we
Speaker 1: as a collective right should just issue civil lawsuits against
Speaker 1: Donald Trump for the abuse and the assault on the
Speaker 1: people of these United States, Like if our Department of
Speaker 1: Justice is no longer in a position or has the
Speaker 1: desire to ensure that justice does prevail, then what is
Speaker 1: the responsibility or what is the ability of the American
Speaker 1: people to do what our electeds won't Because you see, folks,
Speaker 1: we are careering, careening towards the end of our democracy.
Speaker 1: We all know this, we feel it, we sense it,
Speaker 1: we know where mid term elections are going to go. Now,
Speaker 1: I will continue right to tell folks, register to vote,
Speaker 1: make sure your names are on the role, do all
Speaker 1: of those things. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: if you are not creating the guardrails, if you are
Speaker 1: not making sure that my vote is actually going to count,
Speaker 1: and instead you are doubling down on jerrymandering, and then
Speaker 1: Democrats are only tap dancing for your vote every four years.
Speaker 1: But black and brown person, when we get into office,
Speaker 1: we ain't gonna do shit for you. How do we
Speaker 1: think that it's going to continue moving forward? Right? How
Speaker 1: do we think that this country is going to continue
Speaker 1: moving forward? So you know, I will say that the
Speaker 1: times are deeply precarious. The road that we are on
Speaker 1: is not one that frankly I saw coming. And you know,
Speaker 1: and I will say and offer that every single time
Speaker 1: that I see Donald Trump's name in headlines, every single
Speaker 1: time that yet there is another another way in which
Speaker 1: he has manipulated this country where he has torched our
Speaker 1: political norms, where he has operated like teflon don being
Speaker 1: above the fucking law, and that no one bothers to
Speaker 1: want to do the hard work of making sure that
Speaker 1: he is held responsible and accountable for his crimes. I
Speaker 1: want to scream. I want to scream because if I
Speaker 1: know that how I'm feeling, and I'm a person that
Speaker 1: is highly engaged right in politics, then how do we
Speaker 1: think that folks who aren't listening to wokeiak who are
Speaker 1: trying to go back to quote unquote normal, how do
Speaker 1: we think that they are feeling about our body politic
Speaker 1: right now and our democracy. There are too many times
Speaker 1: when I'm getting on the phone with folks and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I stop watching the news. I don't care anymore. I
Speaker 1: care about what's happening inside my own home, inside of
Speaker 1: my own block, inside of my own community, whatever else
Speaker 1: is happening. Go with God. That's the conversations that I'm
Speaker 1: having with people who in fact, had dedicated their lives
Speaker 1: to public service and who are now saying, nah, I
Speaker 1: don't think so. So you know, I can't pretend to
Speaker 1: say that I have all the answers, because I don't.
Speaker 1: I have more questions. I have more questions about what
Speaker 1: the fuck Democrats are actually doing. I have questions about
Speaker 1: what it is that Joe Biden thinks that he's going
Speaker 1: to get done, being as how he's gotten very little
Speaker 1: done in his first year and by the time that
Speaker 1: we get to midterms, his first two years that he
Speaker 1: has gotten very little done. What does he think is
Speaker 1: going to happen when Republicans take control of the House
Speaker 1: and possibly the Senate. Does he think that he's going
Speaker 1: to be holding these like White House summits and they're
Speaker 1: not going to try and impeach him and hold ridiculous,
Speaker 1: highly publicized hearings to do what pull another Benghazi, but
Speaker 1: this time Benghazi on crack. I don't know where their
Speaker 1: heads are at, folks, but I will say this about
Speaker 1: where my head is at, is that we need to
Speaker 1: really start focusing on the local level. We need to
Speaker 1: start focusing on the things that we can control, on
Speaker 1: our school boards, on our city councils. Right, if you
Speaker 1: have even the smallest inkling to run for office, any office,
Speaker 1: I say go and do it. Right, because it is
Speaker 1: going to take all of us taking matters into our
Speaker 1: own hands in order to get things done in this country.
Speaker 1: Because what we realize, what I have realized over the
Speaker 1: last several years under Donald Trump and now with Biden,
Speaker 1: is that our elected officials do not apparently have an
Speaker 1: alarm bell that goes off in their heads. They have
Speaker 1: no sense of urgency. They think that, like the majority
Speaker 1: of Americans, want to do the right thing. And I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, given the opportunity to not do the right
Speaker 1: thing and face absolutely no fucking consequences for it, that's
Speaker 1: what they will choose. So the difference is, now, folks,
Speaker 1: what are we choosing? Because I don't want us to
Speaker 1: just lay down and fucking take it whatever it is
Speaker 1: that either one of these parties are dishing out right,
Speaker 1: which is either disappointment or disrespect. So coming up next
Speaker 1: is my conversation with our friend Glenn Kirshner to walk
Speaker 1: us through the latest bullshit stinking up Mara Lago and
Speaker 1: continuing to plant a stain on our nation's democracy. Good morning, friends,
Speaker 1: it is another day in America where Donald Trump is
Speaker 1: getting away with yet another crime. Could we leave our
Speaker 1: homes knowing that there was top secret documents there that
Speaker 1: belong to the National Archives, that belong to the federal government.
Speaker 1: Could we walk around committing crimes left and right, surrounding
Speaker 1: ourselves with people who need to plead the fifth over
Speaker 1: a hundred times when interviewed about their relationship ship with
Speaker 1: me with the administration. No, no, we couldn't. But another
Speaker 1: day in America reveals to us what that Donald Trump
Speaker 1: can do no wrong. That the name that he received
Speaker 1: in New York during his time as a real estate mogul,
Speaker 1: and I put that in quotations, being called teflon don Yeah,
Speaker 1: nothing sticks. So to walk us through the latest once again,
Speaker 1: is our friend Glenn Kirshner, MSNBC legal analyst and the
Speaker 1: host of Justice Matters. Glenn, I gotta ask you, does
Speaker 1: justice matter as it pertains to Donald Trump? It does it?
Speaker 1: I mean, at this point should we even care? Or
Speaker 1: should we just continue about our days? Danielle I made
Speaker 1: a very exasperated video yesterday after the latest revelation about
Speaker 1: Donald Trump whisking away to Marrow Lago classified materials in
Speaker 1: violation of yet another teral statute. And we can talk
Speaker 1: about it in a minute, But I said, you know,
Speaker 1: we the people are out here abiding by the laws
Speaker 1: of the United States, and I think it is deeply
Speaker 1: disrespectful of us that high government officials have violated countless
Speaker 1: federal laws victimize the people of the United States, and
Speaker 1: they're prancing around footloose and fancy free. So I think
Speaker 1: justice matters to us. I think if we care about
Speaker 1: our nation, justice has to matter it timely. Justice does
Speaker 1: not matter to the Department of Justice. And you know
Speaker 1: it's one of the three words in the title, Department
Speaker 1: of Justice. And yet I don't think anybody can argue
Speaker 1: with a straight face or in a fact based way
Speaker 1: that there has been timely justice for what we have endured,
Speaker 1: this unabated crime wave of Donald Trump and company. So
Speaker 1: I am I'm at my wits end now, as I say,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get up every morning, We're gonna pull on
Speaker 1: the gloves and we're gonna keep punching because there's no alternative,
Speaker 1: I don't think. But you know, when we hear and
Speaker 1: you know what infuriates me, I think more than the
Speaker 1: fact that he's been destroying presidential documents all along. Amorrosa
Speaker 1: told us years ago that she walked into the Oval office,
Speaker 1: Michael Cohen was there and Donald Trump was there. That
Speaker 1: was not an aboveboard conversation going on. And when she
Speaker 1: walks in, Donald Trump pops a piece of paper in
Speaker 1: his mouth and starts chewing it up. Why to destroy
Speaker 1: evidence of his own misconduct? Right? I don't even care
Speaker 1: so much about all of that, because that is who
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is. He's a mob bus. What I care
Speaker 1: about most, and what I'm going to probably vent about today,
Speaker 1: is that we heard reporting that the National Archives has
Speaker 1: been negotiating with Donald Trump for more than a year
Speaker 1: to do what to claw back evidence of crime that
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was housing at Mara Lago. Danielle, If you
Speaker 1: or I had improperly removed classified material, If we had destroyed, removed,
Speaker 1: or mutilated government records or documents, those are two separate
Speaker 1: crimes I just mentioned. Let me mention a third if
Speaker 1: we had taken documents that belong to the United States
Speaker 1: and violation of the Presidential Records Act. That's three different
Speaker 1: federal statutes he violated. If we had that stuff. Do
Speaker 1: you think the federal government would negotiate with us, you know,
Speaker 1: in hostage like fashion, for a year, or do you
Speaker 1: think one minute after they found out we had violated
Speaker 1: those laws, there would have been federal agents banging in
Speaker 1: our door, guns drawn after having obtained a search warrant
Speaker 1: and taken back the evidence of crime we were in
Speaker 1: possession of. That's the insanity of the way our federal
Speaker 1: government has gone about dealing with Donald Trump's crimes. I
Speaker 1: just you know, here's the thing is that even as
Speaker 1: you're saying this, I'm like, didn't we just try one
Speaker 1: of the insurrectionists for removing documents from Nancy Pelosi's office, right,
Speaker 1: like it's a crime. And I'm just so tired of
Speaker 1: hearing that we are a nation of laws when we
Speaker 1: know that that's not true. We're not ana of laws.
Speaker 1: We're a nation of laws that applies to those that
Speaker 1: are most marginalized, those that are most downtrodden, those that
Speaker 1: can't bribe their way out, lie their way out, and
Speaker 1: don't have the right complexion to get their way out. Right.
Speaker 1: And so we have a case of a woman, once again,
Speaker 1: black woman, six years in federal prison for the crime
Speaker 1: of what not knowing that she couldn't vote in the
Speaker 1: United States. Donald Trump, up and down these United States,
Speaker 1: up and down this country has been lying cheating, stealing,
Speaker 1: using the White House as essentially a money laundering operation
Speaker 1: from diplomats and foreign entities. And we know all of this.
Speaker 1: We know all of it. So I'm like, Glenn, you know,
Speaker 1: at this point in time, I try not to get
Speaker 1: my blood pressure up anymore because I don't think it matters, right, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to continue to sustain a level
Speaker 1: of anger and outrage when I am no longer shocked
Speaker 1: by the ineptitude of this Department of Justice and this administration.
Speaker 1: So tell me how you think that we're going to
Speaker 1: see this play out other than by the headlines, because
Speaker 1: those are the only people that are doing any work.
Speaker 1: Are the journalists that are out there right that are saying, Hey,
Speaker 1: Department of Justice, look what we've unearthed, Look what we've discovered,
Speaker 1: And then nada. I don't know how this is going
Speaker 1: to play out. You know, even though we have more
Speaker 1: revelations about more Trump crimes that have gone unaddressed, I
Speaker 1: still find it impossible to conceive of a Department of
Speaker 1: Justice that has all of this evidence of crime and
Speaker 1: just completely disregards it and lets our nation limp toward
Speaker 1: the end of our democracy. I don't at this point,
Speaker 1: it's just faith. I don't even know if it's hope.
Speaker 1: It's certainly not a realistic expectation based on what we've
Speaker 1: seen do. I still think that federal prosecutors are doing
Speaker 1: what federal prosecutors do, which is moved too slowly, investigate
Speaker 1: everything exhaustively and to perfection in the grand jury before
Speaker 1: they're ever willing to return indictments against anybody other than
Speaker 1: the foot soldiers who attack the Capitol on January sixth,
Speaker 1: and that they're gonna indict their way up the chain.
Speaker 1: I still believe that's going to happen. The question is
Speaker 1: will it be too late, and you know, will it
Speaker 1: be too little? Will the House end up flipping to
Speaker 1: the Republicans, at which point the Department of Justice's work
Speaker 1: will slow from a crawl to a halt, not because
Speaker 1: DJ will make those changes itself, but because then it's
Speaker 1: all frivolous subpoenas all the time. It's like a Benghazi
Speaker 1: investigation on steroids, where all the Republican controlled House does
Speaker 1: is carpet bomb the Department of Justice and the Executive
Speaker 1: branch more broadly with congressional subpoenas and then find reasons
Speaker 1: to say you're in non compliance, lock them up using
Speaker 1: the power of inherent contempt that the Democrats in Congress
Speaker 1: refuse to use. So you can see this gathering on
Speaker 1: the horizon. And the only question is does the Department
Speaker 1: of Justice care enough to accelerate whatever it's doing and
Speaker 1: start indicting the insiders of the insurrection, the coup plotters,
Speaker 1: the conspirators who designed Green Bay sweeps and false electors
Speaker 1: and fraudulent legal challe lenges. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know if the Department of Justice has it in them,
Speaker 1: has it in its DNA to do what's necessary to
Speaker 1: keep our republic up and running. I don't know. You know,
Speaker 1: the RNC once again showed its hand, said the quiet
Speaker 1: part out loud. Right, we're going to censure anyone that
Speaker 1: doesn't go along with the big lie, that doesn't fall
Speaker 1: in line with the party and do what is necessary
Speaker 1: in order to advance our authoritarian ideals. Right, they are
Speaker 1: telling you that out loud. When we get power, we
Speaker 1: have one desire. It is to discredit and dismantle the
Speaker 1: Biden administration with a series of impeachment hearings to impeach him.
Speaker 1: On what right they're going to take part this administration,
Speaker 1: they're going to take apart any small bit of investigation
Speaker 1: that has been going on. We know all of this, Glenn,
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice. I would assume that those career
Speaker 1: officials inside that have been there for decades also are
Speaker 1: aware of the politics of our current moment. And so
Speaker 1: there's no sign of anything changing in the next seven
Speaker 1: eight nine months. And so I for me, you know,
Speaker 1: I did have faith. I had faith that by the
Speaker 1: time that we reached the year anniversary of the insurrection
Speaker 1: that those that were pulling the levers of power would
Speaker 1: be behind bars or at least awaiting trial, right, which
Speaker 1: means that they would have been indicted. But to continue
Speaker 1: to show the American people that so long as you
Speaker 1: have enough money, right and like, you can be above
Speaker 1: the law. So, you know, I harken back to the
Speaker 1: press conference that Merritt Garland gave a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and we're all sitting there waiting for some type of
Speaker 1: announcement nothing. This administration, everybody, it seems, wants to turn
Speaker 1: the page on the insurrection for a different reason. Republicans
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell says to RNC chair, we need to stop
Speaker 1: talking about the insurrection because we have the House and
Speaker 1: possibly the Senate within our grasps. If we keep looking backwards, right,
Speaker 1: then we're going to remind the American people who exactly
Speaker 1: is responsible for the insurrection. Then you have a Democratic
Speaker 1: party that says, ah, we want to turn the page.
Speaker 1: We have bigger agenda items, we want to do work
Speaker 1: for the American people. Everybody, Glenn wants to turn the page.
Speaker 1: How is it that both parties, for different reasons, want
Speaker 1: to turn the page and the rest of our stre
Speaker 1: hanging on believing that this criminal president who victimized so many,
Speaker 1: all of us, it's just going to get away scott free. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they keep turning pages. The end of the book and
Speaker 1: the end of the story is the end of our republic.
Speaker 1: So without accountability, we don't remain viable. We just don't.
Speaker 1: And when you you know, in yesterday's video, I catalog
Speaker 1: just you know, the top ten hits of Donald Trump's crimes,
Speaker 1: starting with the campaign finance violation, conspiracy he was in
Speaker 1: with Michael Cohen on the front end to get elected unlawfully,
Speaker 1: not even talking about his encouraging Russian interference to help
Speaker 1: him win the presidency. And then you know, you tick
Speaker 1: through everything he did moving forward, you know, bribing and
Speaker 1: extorting President Zelenski. Ten counts of felony, instruction of justice
Speaker 1: that's been investigated and is ready to be indicted. Sitting
Speaker 1: in there in volume two of the Muller Report, he
Speaker 1: made false statements to Muller in his written answers to questions.
Speaker 1: Each one is a five year federal felony. He obstructed
Speaker 1: congressional proceedings a thousand times over by telling his executive
Speaker 1: branch officials do not comply with lawfully issued congressional subpoenas.
Speaker 1: He didn't tell them to invoke executive privilege. He just
Speaker 1: said be in contempt, and they were, and he has
Speaker 1: not been held accountable for that. He witnessed hampering of
Speaker 1: Ambassador Marie Ivanovitch avoidable COVID debts. Take it from this
Speaker 1: old homicide prosecutor. There's criminal liability for what he did
Speaker 1: to the American people by lying to us and chasing
Speaker 1: us all out into a deadly oncoming pandemic, inciting an insurrection,
Speaker 1: conspiring to criminally overturn a president election. And now we
Speaker 1: can add multiple counts of destroying documents and mishandling classified
Speaker 1: information and all for naught. If we turn the page
Speaker 1: on that, then the next president will have no reason
Speaker 1: and no motivation to behave in a lawful manner. He
Speaker 1: or she just won't. I hope it's a she, because
Speaker 1: maybe then we've got some luck of pulling ourselves out
Speaker 1: of this morass. But if you allow a criminal president
Speaker 1: to run rampant during the presidency and after the presidency,
Speaker 1: then it feels to me like we're done. I mean,
Speaker 1: and that's the thing is that it does. It just
Speaker 1: it feels like we're just done and we're spinning our
Speaker 1: wheels and we're trying to have to continue to have
Speaker 1: faith to believe that like justice will prevail. But you know,
Speaker 1: this isn't a movie, right and it doesn't always when
Speaker 1: empires fall, they don't have a happy ending. And you know,
Speaker 1: I look around and I have to ask, because again,
Speaker 1: the people inside of the walls of the Department of Justice,
Speaker 1: you know, what are they thinking? What are the murmurings?
Speaker 1: Because I just I can't imagine honestly, going to work
Speaker 1: day in and day out. You have dedicated your life
Speaker 1: to public service, I can't imagine in this moment right now,
Speaker 1: when you have the ability to shift the course of
Speaker 1: this country, to re establish rules and law and norms,
Speaker 1: and that's not happening that your moral your commitment to
Speaker 1: the job is still present. Yeah, I don't know. It's disheartening.
Speaker 1: I think it's probably good that I'm out of government
Speaker 1: after thirty years, because if I were inside government, the
Speaker 1: first thing I would have done is I would present
Speaker 1: a case to the grand jury for any number of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump crimes, including his responsibility for avoidable COVID debts,
Speaker 1: and the leadership at the Department of Justice would either
Speaker 1: support me in that or would fire me, and I
Speaker 1: would be I would welcome either of those two outcomes,
Speaker 1: because when you see crime being committed in the harsh
Speaker 1: light of day by high government officials, you can't not
Speaker 1: respond any more than if my next door neighbor kept
Speaker 1: breaking into my house, stealing my stuff, assaulting me and
Speaker 1: my family over and over and over again, and I
Speaker 1: reported it each time, and the evidence was there, and
Speaker 1: the law enforcement authority said, oh, well, we're not doing
Speaker 1: anything about it. Even if their response was we're just
Speaker 1: going to keep investigating it to perfection, so in the
Speaker 1: event we have to go to trial, someday our case
Speaker 1: will be bulletproof and we can't lose, which is a fiction.
Speaker 1: There is no such thing as a bulletproof case. But
Speaker 1: that's what motivates federal prosecutors to investigate a case exhaustively
Speaker 1: in the grand jury. It's it's in part a fear
Speaker 1: of losing, a fear of embarrassment, and a fear of criticism.
Speaker 1: But it's the same holds true if my local law
Speaker 1: enforcement officials completely refuse to remedy or address the victimization
Speaker 1: that was going on in my house to my family,
Speaker 1: even though they had enough evidence to make an arrest.
Speaker 1: What does that leave me to do, Danielle, What does
Speaker 1: that lead mean to do? The American people are victims.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm going to do a video about the
Speaker 1: Crime Victims Rights Act, which says, and I quote, the
Speaker 1: federal law is such that a victim of crime has
Speaker 1: a right to be reasonably protected against the perpetrator. That's
Speaker 1: one of the rights and the Crime Victims Bill of Rights,
Speaker 1: the Crime Victims Rights Act. We are victims of Donald
Speaker 1: Trump and Company's crimes. We have a statutory right to
Speaker 1: be protected from the perpetrator, and the federal authorities are
Speaker 1: not doing it. So you know, we can talk about
Speaker 1: this all day long. We've identified the problem, we see
Speaker 1: the damage. We don't have a remedy. We don't have
Speaker 1: a remedy. You know what is also laughable to me
Speaker 1: at this moment too, is the fact that how could
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice not see this as a slam
Speaker 1: dunk when you are aware of the types of attorneys
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump is surrounded himself with. They are not
Speaker 1: the best and the brightest. They were laughed out of
Speaker 1: sixty six different courtrooms, right. They have brought cases and
Speaker 1: tried to I mean, what they are good at, right
Speaker 1: is slowing down processes, That's what they're good at. But
Speaker 1: actually coming up with a defense they have none. They
Speaker 1: have no literal leg no legal leg to stand on.
Speaker 1: So how is it that the Department of Justice, withal right,
Speaker 1: the information in their arsenal, how did they look at
Speaker 1: this and say, oh, no, we're uncertain about how this
Speaker 1: could go. Look at who you're up against. It's like
Speaker 1: a team of muppets, and I don't want to insult muppets, right,
Speaker 1: So how do they look at these people, all of
Speaker 1: these attorneys, some of whom are being investigated or have
Speaker 1: been disbarred like Giuliani in different places and think to themselves, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if we can beat them. It really
Speaker 1: and it doesn't even matter. The poor quality of Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's attorneys and poor quality is giving them too much credit.
Speaker 1: Their their clowns, their buffoons. Right. The evidence is so
Speaker 1: overwhelming of Donald Trump's crimes that there is no legal team,
Speaker 1: no matter how good, how accomplished, that that could win
Speaker 1: this case. I mean when I say I've taken a
Speaker 1: lot of tough cases to trial, I won some, I
Speaker 1: lost some. But when I say these are strong cases
Speaker 1: against Donald Trump for a dozen or more crimes, that
Speaker 1: is you know that that's my experience of thirty years
Speaker 1: from being in courtrooms making that assessment. And what what's
Speaker 1: so infuriating is and I have to relate it back
Speaker 1: to my experience when I was in the grand jury
Speaker 1: investigating crime. The way I believe the Department of Justice
Speaker 1: is we know they're in the grand jury the insurrection
Speaker 1: because they're returning indictments against people, and I can guarantee
Speaker 1: they are not putting blinders on with respect to that investigation.
Speaker 1: When you know there's evidence of the organizers and the
Speaker 1: funders and the planners and the insiders coming in. That's
Speaker 1: part of the grand jury investigation. You can't segregate that out.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean they're any closer to indicting those people,
Speaker 1: but that's part of the grand jury investigation. When I
Speaker 1: was in the grandjury investigating cases covertly before any arrest
Speaker 1: had been made, the moment I had probable cause, I
Speaker 1: had a decision to make, together with my team of
Speaker 1: fellow prosecutors, FBI agents, law enforcement authorities, we now have
Speaker 1: enough to indict. We now have enough to make an arrest.
Speaker 1: As we've had against Donald Trump for years. Every day
Speaker 1: we decline to make an arrest is a day we
Speaker 1: are endangering public safety. And so the calculation was always
Speaker 1: we have to indict. We have to make an arrest,
Speaker 1: because if we don't, then all the bad stuff that
Speaker 1: happens from this moment moving forward is on us. That's
Speaker 1: where we are with Donald Trump. They have more than
Speaker 1: enough to make an arrest ten times over of Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: They had it back in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: I guess the day after Joe Biden was sworn in.
Speaker 1: They had it in the Mother Report. They had plenty
Speaker 1: of evidence to indict him for felony obstruction of justice,
Speaker 1: and they decline. They declined to for whatever reason. Every
Speaker 1: day they leave Donald Trump in the wind, in the
Speaker 1: community to do more damage. That really is on the
Speaker 1: Department of Justice because they've made a decision not to
Speaker 1: indict him, not to arrest him, even though they have
Speaker 1: enough evidence too. And that is the Department of just
Speaker 1: falling down on the job. I mean, you know, Glenn,
Speaker 1: you couldn't have put a better exclamation point. It is
Speaker 1: it is. It is the Department of Justice. And I
Speaker 1: will add the entirety of this administration falling down on
Speaker 1: the job because you know, a year plus later, I
Speaker 1: have no idea what I voted for in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: I really don't. And for folks that want to tell me, well,
Speaker 1: things could be much worse than they are now, I
Speaker 1: want to ask you how exactly, because it's not great,
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel great, it doesn't look great. And for
Speaker 1: an administration that came in and said that they were
Speaker 1: about the rule of law, following science, re reigniting people's
Speaker 1: faith in our institutions that have held steady for over
Speaker 1: two hundred years, I don't see it and I don't
Speaker 1: believe it. And if that is me, I can only
Speaker 1: imagine what people who have only been partially engaged how
Speaker 1: they feel now. Glenn, tell folks when where they can
Speaker 1: always watch your videos, because I'm certain that people want
Speaker 1: to see you go in on the myriad at the
Speaker 1: litany of crimes that Donald Trump has committed, Donald Trump
Speaker 1: in company. Yeah, you can go on YouTube. Just plug
Speaker 1: my name in Glenn Kershner I think it's actually Glenn
Speaker 1: Kershner two. Or just type Injustice Matters and you'll find
Speaker 1: my YouTube channel. I post a video every single day,
Speaker 1: seven days a week, taking on the Trump crime du jour.
Speaker 1: And then you can also find me all day and
Speaker 1: night on Twitter. If you want to more formally support
Speaker 1: what we do at Team Justice, we are an all
Speaker 1: volunteer operation. Here, you can go over to patreon dot
Speaker 1: com sign up to become a patron and you'll get
Speaker 1: you know, all sorts of Team Justice and Justice Matters
Speaker 1: stickers and a handwritten note, and you'll get an invitation
Speaker 1: to our annual Team Justice gathering, which is an event
Speaker 1: I put on. It's all on me, dinner, cocktails, the whole,
Speaker 1: the whole thing. That's my way of saying thank you
Speaker 1: to the people who support me on Patreon, so Patreon, YouTube, Twitter,
Speaker 1: those are some of the places that folks can find us. Oh, Glenn,
Speaker 1: you know, as I end today with you, I just wonder,
Speaker 1: you know, can the American people just bring a case
Speaker 1: against Donald Trump? I mean, you've done all the research.
Speaker 1: There are so many smart attorneys that we all know
Speaker 1: and see every day. I'm just if I can't rely
Speaker 1: on the Department of Justice is our last hail Mary
Speaker 1: potentially just you know, Kirshner and company justice matters versus
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. You know I would support that. I support
Speaker 1: just about anything. It's and there are a number of
Speaker 1: lawsuits that have been brought, including by members of Congress
Speaker 1: and Capitol police officers against Donald Trump. In those civil
Speaker 1: suits take forever to work their way through the system. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: I would like an answer from the Department of Justice
Speaker 1: that if crimes have been committed and there's more than
Speaker 1: enough evidence to prove it, but DJ refuses to pursue
Speaker 1: those crimes, can you please explain to us, the American people,
Speaker 1: what our remedies are, What can we do to protect ourselves,
Speaker 1: to protect our nation. If you are unwilling to do it.
Speaker 1: I would love for them to answer that question, because
Speaker 1: I don't have a good answer to it. Well, We'll
Speaker 1: continue to follow you and continue to keep faith the
Speaker 1: little bit that we have because that's all we can do,
Speaker 1: and that's literally all we have. But Glenn, I can't
Speaker 1: thank you enough for spending time with us each and
Speaker 1: every week to walk us through this legal, eaesy web
Speaker 1: of lies and hopefully to be able to celebrate something
Speaker 1: on the other side at some point. We appreciate you
Speaker 1: now my pleasure, Daniel, and now folks for your woke
Speaker 1: moment of wellness. You know, over the past couple of days,
Speaker 1: I've been in conversations with just a bunch of different
Speaker 1: people and one of the refrains that keep coming up
Speaker 1: is finding your moments of joy and really really connecting
Speaker 1: to the outdoors, even if where you are is cold.
Speaker 1: And I've had this conversation and I brought up the
Speaker 1: fact that my sister said that there is no bad weather,
Speaker 1: there is only bad clothing. But I want to talk
Speaker 1: about the power of walking and walking meditation. For me.
Speaker 1: When I go walking, I put on my music, I
Speaker 1: zone out, or sometimes I will put on like a
Speaker 1: long kind of ted talk type of meditation where I'm
Speaker 1: able to just take in the beauty of what's around me.
Speaker 1: There was something about just going on a walk for
Speaker 1: a walk's sake, not to get to a destination, but
Speaker 1: just to experience your body moving and the environment around you.
Speaker 1: To see how the sun hits, you know, the ground,
Speaker 1: To see families walking and playing and engaging with one another,
Speaker 1: to see cute little dogs, or people like in New
Speaker 1: York with their cats and backpacks and out on walks.
Speaker 1: To just experience the fact that regardless of all that
Speaker 1: we know to be bad right when we are glued
Speaker 1: to our screens and our computers and our TVs and
Speaker 1: all of these things, that when we actually decide to
Speaker 1: put ourselves in in our environment, we can see these
Speaker 1: little moments, these sprinklings of joy. And so if you
Speaker 1: feel overwhelmed, I encourage you. If you have a park
Speaker 1: because you don't have sidewalks in your neighborhood, or you
Speaker 1: have a place that you can actually drive through just
Speaker 1: to kind of sit or just walk around just a
Speaker 1: little bit, you know, count the beautiful things that you
Speaker 1: come across. Count you know, the moments that smiles just
Speaker 1: curl up on your mouth, because I will tell you that,
Speaker 1: you know, I am constantly reminded that there is still
Speaker 1: beauty in the world when I choose to go out
Speaker 1: in search of it. So I encourage all of you,
Speaker 1: you know, in this new week to really take in
Speaker 1: those moments, make the time intentional to look for the
Speaker 1: joy that, friends, is your woke moment of wellness. That
Speaker 1: is it for me today, friends, So as always, power
Speaker 1: to the people and to all the people. Power, get
Speaker 1: woke and stay woke as fuck.