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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly, he is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and we're kicking off our number two here

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Speaker 2: of the drive. Fucking little fantasy football. All right, we're

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Speaker 2: not gonna talk kickers, good good. I don't want Matt

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Speaker 2: the field lost who's he played for again? We are

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Speaker 2: going to talk defense, special teams units today. And here's

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Speaker 2: the thing about these kicker and defense. Just a little

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Speaker 2: tip for all the listeners out there who maybe you're

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Speaker 2: new to fantasy football. Don't be the first person in

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Speaker 2: round ten oh yeah, to go oh I'm getting the

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Speaker 2: best defense or kicker and it never works out right ever.

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Speaker 3: I mean we've had a lot of justin Tucker conversation here,

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Speaker 3: there was a stretch that that was not terrible. It

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Speaker 3: was never my approach because the opportunity cost is you're

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Speaker 3: turning down a run. Backup running back has one injury

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Speaker 3: away from being a starter at a position.

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Speaker 2: Wide receiver who's just waiting for that opportunity. We're a

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Speaker 2: backup quarterback that's actually going to play games for.

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Speaker 3: You and this starting tight end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, Oh, but he's the best. Okay, the best

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Speaker 2: kicker in the league averages one point per game more

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Speaker 2: than the second best kicker, the third best.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't really, and it.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't from year to year.

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Speaker 3: Remember that this is a head to head game, you know, like,

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Speaker 3: does it really give you that much of an advantage

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Speaker 3: over your opponent? Probably not, because it's also very unpredictable

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Speaker 2: Would I would just assume have kickers not be a

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Speaker 2: part of fantasy. Oh, I think they shouldn't be because

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Speaker 2: there's just so much luck involved.

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Speaker 3: And they also account for a fit amount of points too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like I'm in one games because I've

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Speaker 2: had twenty five point games out of a kicker, and

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Speaker 2: it's like.

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Speaker 3: We've all won a game that way and lost the

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Speaker 3: game that way, and it's like, yeah, but I picked

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Speaker 3: the right quarterbacks and running backs and that did all

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Speaker 3: the heavy lifting.

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Speaker 2: You know, I had a way better week than you

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Speaker 2: and your kicker beat me.

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Speaker 3: Defense is a mere different animal. Defense is different.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Obviously a ton of defense in the streaming world is

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Speaker 3: very applicable here too. So you're playing, you know, if

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Speaker 3: you're playing Josh Allen and Lamar. I mean, your defense

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Speaker 3: is probably not gonna do as well, but I think

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Speaker 3: there's real football knowledge to picking, especially preseason. Who are

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Speaker 3: some defenses that could be pretty darn good this year?

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Speaker 3: Who can rush the fa make play.

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Speaker 2: Not just the defenses, but the special teams unit. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because you get those kick returns things of that might

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Speaker 2: bigger this year. Yeah. So looking here at Pro Football

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Speaker 2: focuses defensive rankings, which we've used their rankings all week long.

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Speaker 2: Here's the funny thing about so they have as I've

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Speaker 2: we've done all week, I've gone through the rankings like

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Speaker 2: where the team is or where the player is ranked,

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Speaker 2: and then where they're at. So they're yeah, their defensive

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Speaker 2: start one ninety four, one nine all the way down

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Speaker 2: through too. Well, some of them are worth a little

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Speaker 2: bit more, but they go through to four with defenses,

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Speaker 2: so down through defense twelve to pull back the curve

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Speaker 2: basically means in a twelve team league, you're waiting until rounds,

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Speaker 2: your last round to draft teams.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna say if it's a if it's a fifteen

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Speaker 3: man roster, I would say ninety percent of the drafts

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Speaker 3: I've done the last ten years, the fifteenth rounds of kicker,

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Speaker 3: the fourteenth rounds of defense. Yeah, round thirteen, I'm taking

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Speaker 3: my last flyer on a real player. You know, almost

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Speaker 3: every draft I do. Yeah, so there you are at

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Speaker 3: the mercy of what's left.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Here's the difference though, So at one ninety three,

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Speaker 2: their first defense number one is Denver.

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Speaker 3: I say Denver would be my one one.

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Speaker 2: But the ADP on Denver's defense is one oh two

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Speaker 3: One hundred picks different. Yeah, so they don't be.

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Speaker 2: That don't be that guy. Same thing with the defense

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Speaker 2: number two. It's the Eagles at ninety three point eight.

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Speaker 2: So they're getting drafted even higher on here the rankings

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Speaker 2: hundred spots less.

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Speaker 3: You're overpaid.

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Speaker 2: You're way overpaid defense.

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Speaker 3: I mean I would say you're thinking Denver would be

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Speaker 3: my number one. They had the most saxon league by

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Speaker 3: a wide margin. They the defensive MVP. They have a

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Speaker 3: coached on that side of the ball. Peyton is friendly

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Speaker 2: The only problem with that.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not taking them in the tenth round or

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Speaker 2: They gotta play Kansas City twice. They gotta play the

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Speaker 2: Chargers twice, which yeah, okay, and they also have to

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Speaker 2: play and improved Raiders team twice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not.

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Speaker 2: So for me like Buffalo's defense.

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Speaker 3: That's appealing because we were doing like strength of schedule.

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Speaker 2: Start the schedule stuff, like they're playing garbage in their division.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that up, because if you rewind

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Speaker 3: a couple of days when we dug into Warren Sharps

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Speaker 3: strength of schedule stuff, I definitely factor that in when

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Speaker 3: I'm doing defense.

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Speaker 2: There's gonna be some some No, maybe not every week

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Speaker 2: because they do play that first play schedule and they

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Speaker 2: get to play the Ravens, they got to play the Chiefs,

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Speaker 2: but there's a lot of weeks you're gonna be really

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Speaker 3: Defense in the Jets. Yeah, weather and all that stuff,

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Speaker 3: you know. Let the Bills are a perfect example. Boy,

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Speaker 3: that's a good defense. They drafted heavy on defense. Their

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Speaker 3: strength is schedule is wonderful. Buffalo weather late in the

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Speaker 3: year is really conducive to low points. Yeah, but some

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Speaker 3: of that stuff is months away. From the day you

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Speaker 3: make your drafts, you always have to think, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean definitely should split ties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing I recommend too is, especially with defense,

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Speaker 3: you know what, I mean to look at the matchups the.

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Speaker 2: Number three defense on here, two Phillys two the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 2: they should be high.

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Speaker 3: At one point I'm gonna go on my really long

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Speaker 3: rant about to me one of the two. I have

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Speaker 3: two real goals for what the Steelers need to do

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Speaker 3: on offense and defense, and one of and the defensive

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Speaker 3: one is basically either lead the league in sacks or

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Speaker 3: be right next to there, because you should, you know,

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Speaker 3: and you have you have the pass rushers, but you

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Speaker 3: are middle of the road in sacks. And there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of reasons why. And that's why. It's a long

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Speaker 3: conversation and some of its secondary. Some of it's covered schemes,

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Speaker 3: some of it splitz, percentage time to throw, I mean,

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Speaker 3: over and all and all in all, you have the

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Speaker 3: most saxhones them last twenty years, you know, you have

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Speaker 3: great pass rushers.

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Speaker 2: You led to the league in sacks five consecutive seasons, right,

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Speaker 2: it never been Nobody else have done three in a row.

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Speaker 3: And I can argue and people laugh, No they're not.

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Speaker 3: This group of pass rushers might be better than that one.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's right, there's worse. It's not worse. You

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Speaker 3: know Herbiing coming off the bench and Harton and you

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Speaker 3: know it's deep too. And to me, sacks is my

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Speaker 3: number one thing for defenses. Yeah, and it seems small,

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Speaker 3: but in the world of defensive special teams, the Steelers

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Speaker 3: are elite. And we don't bring this up enough. It

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Speaker 3: batting down passes at the line of scrimmage. Tips and

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Speaker 3: overthrows turn into tips, and overthrows are interceptions turnings in

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Speaker 3: exactly and sometimes pick six is for your fantasy team.

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Speaker 2: Defense number four is Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good group. Drafted two guys in the

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Speaker 3: first two rounds too. Their ADP is ninety eight. That's

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Speaker 3: way too early when I'm not drafting any of those teams. No,

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Speaker 2: Defense number five at one ninety seven is Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: Interesting because boy Flores is good. I mean, he doesn't

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Speaker 3: have great players, but he causes chaos and he makes

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Speaker 3: the quarterback double clutch a lot. That's a really good

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Speaker 3: division though, it is, and they don't have great players

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Speaker 3: on defense, I mean Ben Ginkel and you know guys

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Speaker 3: like that. They're giving big money too. But they did

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Speaker 3: add two defensive tackles. They were near the top I

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Speaker 3: think on fantasy defenses last year. They definitely were near

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Speaker 3: the top, and like EPA and that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Defense Number six is Houston.

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Speaker 3: I'm a fan there too. Two edg rushers that are

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Speaker 3: big time, good scheme, good tacklers, Stingley. They have money

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Speaker 3: invested there. It's a good group and that division is

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Speaker 3: pretty division is pretty weak. You like playing those quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Number seven is Green Bay. They're high on this

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Speaker 2: every year and they just never live up to the ranking.

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Speaker 2: I fell forward because we've used a whole bunch of

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Speaker 3: Picks on the defensive players, right, and they have the

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Speaker 3: tough division thing going too. There's a lot of underachievers.

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Speaker 3: I mean, even Gary starting to come back to earth.

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Speaker 3: Van Ness is very ordinary. That year that they used

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Speaker 3: to pick on Wyatt and then the linebacker in the

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Speaker 3: first round is not really bearing fruits. It's Jarry Alexander

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Speaker 3: really in someone else can have the Packers.

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Speaker 2: Defense Number eight is Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: It's always good. They play with a lot of leads.

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Speaker 3: Chris Jones. Spagnolo is a Hall of Famer. It's always good.

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Speaker 2: Defense Number nine Detroit.

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Speaker 3: Playing with leads helps, that helps Domes good for pass rushing.

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Speaker 3: Loud Hutchinson comes.

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Speaker 2: I mean they're gonna play with a lot of leads too.

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Speaker 2: But they also play a lot of shootouts.

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Speaker 3: They also drafted a nose tackle, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 3: like I wish that was more of a speedball off

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Speaker 3: the edge investment. I think their secondary is good, not great.

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Speaker 3: Is Arnold Reay to turn a corner?

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Speaker 3: Tough? Division two?

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Speaker 2: Like you said, Okay, Defense ten is Buffalo. We kind

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Speaker 2: of just talked about a little. I'm a little higher

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Speaker 2: on him. Defense number eleven Seattle.

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Speaker 3: I like the coach who's in charge of the defense.

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Speaker 3: I think guys like Murphy are really ready to jump up.

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Speaker 3: Leonard Williams is a really good player. Yeah, they'd probably

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Speaker 3: be in my top ten. Twelve is the Chargers. I

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Speaker 3: was talking to AFC West today and I don't know

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Speaker 3: if they have really that good of players on defense,

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Speaker 3: and I didn't think they did last year, but I

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Speaker 3: think the hole is greater than the sum of the park.

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Speaker 3: They run the ball like crazy, which keeps a shout

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Speaker 3: down absolutely helps, which is another thing to keep an

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Speaker 3: something to think about, for sure. It's a good Ravens

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Speaker 2: Keep away all day long.

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Speaker 2: Though right outside the top twelve. San Francisco at thirteen.

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Speaker 2: And they even with you got Hendrickson right, okay.

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Speaker 2: And they're not interested in stopping anybody. They just want

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Speaker 2: you might take negative points on the Bengals defense every week.

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Speaker 3: You would have with some regularity. Right, they'd be way lower.

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Speaker 3: I mean they might be.

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Speaker 2: Twenty four is the Falcons.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking that too, and they got Crosby. You know.

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Speaker 2: Back seven is defensive minded coach, right, he's gonna Beryl

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Speaker 2: that's not terrible. The Bears comes back. Yeah, Bears are

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Speaker 3: They have edge rushers. Yeah, played a good division for defense.

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Speaker 3: The Titans are twenty nine, Yeah, they should be real bad.

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Speaker 3: Washington at thirty. I think Washington's starting to really resemble

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at thirty one of the Giants leaving the Panthers

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Speaker 2: lot higher than that. Yeah, they got five d Lineman.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, Dexter Lawrence is one of the best players

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thing they got pass rushers man that's the other

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Speaker 2: you know, the last two years, I've just given up

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Speaker 2: there's always somebody out there. I just play matchups.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some leagues that's hard to do. Some of

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Speaker 2: To you're a fifteen player a fifteen twelve team league

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Speaker 2: every week as long as it doesn't like in my league,

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Speaker 2: it cost you actual dollars to make transactions, which is

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Speaker 3: So it gets kind of expensive playing that way, you know,

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, I guess you Dons have to have Rudolph

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Speaker 3: I don't see who they place as the other quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: It's pretty bad. Yeah, thirty is Anthony Richardson, and I

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Speaker 2: throws of seven or more yards, yeah, Anthony Richardson completes

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Speaker 3: Yards, ten yard out, I mean short out or you know,

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Speaker 2: I think he's I think in that same tweet, I

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it's drastically under.

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Speaker 2: Thirty eight percent. He's not a quarterback. He's not.

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Speaker 3: He's not yet.

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Speaker 2: He won't ever be. I will go on record now,

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson will never be a long term quarterback for anybody.

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Speaker 2: He stinks.

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Speaker 3: I lean that way. But boy, there's some things that

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Speaker 2: Things like the throwing of the football work against him,

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Speaker 3: But you knew that when you drafted him, you know,

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Speaker 3: like I wouldn't. That's what I'm saying is how do

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Speaker 3: never Yeah, he'd be lower. I mean he'd have to

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Speaker 3: I get it, and he does have a little bit

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Speaker 2: I think he's a better football player than he is

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Speaker 2: I would say, oh, I get that, yeah, right, But

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00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 2: the actual completing of passes.

442
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 3: Quarterall Patterson at the beginning of his career, Yeah, he

443
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 3: was a better football player than wide receiver or running

444
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 3: back or right.

445
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:47,439
Speaker 2: He's the number one job of a quarterback is to

446
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 2: run the offense and run it effectively. And he doesn't

447
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 2: do that. Every once while Hill hit a big play

448
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 2: and it looks great, you know, Oh it's tantalizing, Or

449
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 2: he'll break a long run that's really tantalizing. Where we

450
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 2: differ is he can't do it consistently.

451
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 3: Though I have not buried him yet. Though I think

452
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 3: he's terrible. I think he's bad so far.

453
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 2: Thirty eight percent. Oh that's seven yards. He's been bad.

454
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 3: There's no doubt.

455
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 2: That's not much farther than we are apart. Right now,

456
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 2: I can underhand the ball.

457
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 3: Throw my phone to you. You get thirty eight percent? Yeah,

458
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,719
Speaker 3: I get it. I mean, it's definitely been bad. But

459
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 3: this shouldn't be super unexpected, and it's not unexpected from me.

460
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 3: I didn't like him coming out, right, I mean, the

461
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: accuracy stuff was a problem every step of the way.

462
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 3: I just think he's got a chance.

463
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 2: To get better at it, get better. He can't be worse.

464
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 3: He's going to be worse.

465
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Speaker 2: I mean thirty eight percent, but that's horrible. I mean,

466
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: if he improved a forty five percent, that wouldn't even

467
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 2: be passable, right, right, he's terrible.

468
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 3: He's a terrible passer so far. There's no question he's

469
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 3: always gonna be a bad passer.

470
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah right, we're heading into year three.

471
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 3: Right, But he's played so little.

472
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Speaker 2: I get because he taps out well once for one place,

473
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 2: you only have to do that once, like the rest

474
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 2: of the guys in the locker room, sit, what do

475
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 2: you mean you're tapping out? You're the quarterback.

476
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 3: I think that's overblown, but I know that that in

477
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 3: the I don't think it's overblown in locker rooms, I know.

478
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: I mean, like, you're the quarterback, you don't get to

479
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 2: tap out.

480
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 3: I don't think Max would even mind. He's a Florida

481
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 3: guy and this came up at the combine and he's like, oh,

482
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: you can't tap out. I'm like, I know, and that's

483
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 3: a Florida guy. I know he's a Florida guy saying that.

484
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 3: But it's old school lineman, you can't do that. I get.

485
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,719
Speaker 2: It does mean I've never seen a quarterback do that.

486
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 3: It's ever happened in the history of the planet ever.

487
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean he can't play football.

488
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 2: I'm not saying again, I'm not saying he can't play football.

489
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 2: He can't play quarterback.

490
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 3: Now, I don't want people to be like, whenever he

491
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 3: totally busts out a league in three years from now,

492
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 3: like I told you so.

493
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: If it happens the other way, I'm going to get

494
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 2: that thrown on my face.

495
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 3: Of course, And I wouldn't bet that it does go

496
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 3: my way. I'm just not ready to throw him in

497
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 3: the gravy. I don't even know if he can come.

498
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 3: I'm digging.

499
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 2: I don't even know if he can get the average.

500
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Speaker 3: That's a long way away. It's a long way to

501
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 3: get the way way way. I'm not sure what being

502
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 3: in the opening is a starter. I mean, yeah, when

503
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 3: he was listed there, I was like, I think Daniel

504
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: Jones would probably start.

505
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 2: They gave Daniel Jones money.

506
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Daniel Jones is better than the thirtieth best quarterback.

507
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 2: Then you know, uh, twenty nine is Joe Flacco not?

508
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: Based on his play necessarily last year he had again stretches.

509
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 2: He has, he played well, but the overall results over

510
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: an extended period of time not good.

511
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 3: I'm not behind Flacco at this stage. Especially at this stage,

512
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 3: I don't think he cares. I didn't think he's going

513
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 3: to sling it, and good for him. This is not

514
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 3: the sound Brown Steeler bias. But if I had to

515
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 3: play seventeen games with the Steelers, I would rather play

516
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 3: with Rudolph than Flacco. Yes, no question.

517
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: He cann't take better care of the football.

518
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you're right.

519
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 2: If Flacco started seventeen games for somebody in the NFL.

520
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 2: He might throw twenty five interceptions.

521
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 3: Over probably twenty three ish. Yeah, yep, and I think

522
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 3: he's going to be the opening day starter.

523
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: Twenty eight is Russell Wilson.

524
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 3: He'd be number one of the guys we've listed so far.

525
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 3: I don't know. See who's ahead of.

526
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: Them at Twenty seven is Michael Pennix. These guys are

527
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 2: so hard to rank. I can't have Michael Penix up

528
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: there at this point and didn't playing the preseason last year.

529
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: I know you seem like two games of him three.

530
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I can put Wilson ahead of Penix. Yeah,

531
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 3: but he had I mean, he's not up there, He's no,

532
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, right right.

533
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 4: I don't know.

534
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: Some of these guys are gonna be really hard to rank.

535
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: Twenty six is Bryce Young.

536
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: He'd be higher than cam Ward for me right now,

537
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 3: I think so. I mean, I mean the guys that

538
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 3: we don't know anything about I have got.

539
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 2: Twenty five is cam Wardenon Okay, Okay, I don't know

540
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 2: what that's going to look like.

541
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 3: No, and it's unfair to rank them, period.

542
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: Would it be? Would it shock you if he had

543
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 2: similar numbers to what Mason Rudolph had last year in Tennessee.

544
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 3: In some way, yes, And I mean that as a

545
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 3: positive the Rudolph because I'm digging here on my phone

546
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 3: because I just did this for fun yesterday. You know,

547
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 3: everyone knows I'm kind of an EPA nerd, and I

548
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 3: was just kind of I was watching some Rudolph stuff

549
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 3: and I was just wondering, what does season really look like?

550
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 3: And if you go to the EPA site, he doesn't

551
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 3: have enough attempts. So I lowered down the number because

552
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: he threw just over two hundred balls. So I said,

553
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 3: anyone with two hundred or more attempts and there was

554
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 3: forty two quarterbacks. Richardson might have been last, by the way,

555
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 3: I'm sure he was. So if the forty two quarterbacks

556
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 3: he was, I think they were like the bottom two.

557
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 3: So I mean this, guys have played a fair amount.

558
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 3: Two hundred pass tempts is enough to go off of.

559
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 3: Rudolph was twenty third. Like, if that's what he gives

560
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 3: you the rest of his career, that's great, you know

561
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: what I mean? So I would rather have ward than Rudolph.

562
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 3: I've been warded off twenty third this year. Is my point. Yeah,

563
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 3: I bet he's below that. Twenty four is justin Fields.

564
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 3: That's about where he belongs. Fields versus Wilson's an obvious conversation. Yeah,

565
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: we have had eight hundred times and continues. Yeah, Fields

566
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: was actually ahead of Wilson in the EPA thing, but

567
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 3: a lot of that's legs. Yeah, twenty counts does. Twenty

568
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 3: three is Kyler Murray. I'd still a brace young over

569
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: all these guys, not Kyler Murray, Not Kyler Murray. No, Yeah,

570
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: that's pretty low on Kyler. That is real low on Kyler.

571
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 3: Twenty two is Sam Darnold. I'll take Kyler Donald.

572
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: Twenty one is to Attago vy Loa.

573
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: This is going to be an interesting neighborhood because it

574
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 3: seems really low to be in the twenties.

575
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 2: The next name is gonna twenty is JJ McCarthy. Oh,

576
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: he has to be right next to Panics or below

577
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: he has he has to be below that. We don't

578
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 2: get to see him in the preseason last year, right,

579
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: we have never seen him play an NFL game. Yeah,

580
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 2: he might finish higher than that.

581
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 3: Oh, I hope he does.

582
00:27:59,160 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: I hope he does.

583
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 3: But how do you put him in or how'd he

584
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 3: rank him? Right? Right? They really shouldn't even be on

585
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 3: the list if you haven't had an NFL snap.

586
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: Nineteen is Drake May.

587
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,959
Speaker 3: Is he bet? I love him. I don't know if

588
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: he's a better player than Kyler right now, but I'd

589
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 3: much rather have him.

590
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 2: I'd rather probably have him than the next guy.

591
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I'd rather have him than just about any

592
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 3: quarterback in the league not in the top six or

593
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: seven if I was building a team.

594
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: Eighteen is Trevor Lawrence.

595
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 3: I'm still on board.

596
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: His play last year was not good. Oh, he's the

597
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: last two years has not been good.

598
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 3: It's very erratic.

599
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: Now, I'm not saying that he stinks or anything of

600
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: the right. This is closer to where he's at than

601
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: oh yeah, where his draft.

602
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 3: Stacks for prospect is not probably ever gonna happen. This

603
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 3: is a huge make or break here for him.

604
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Seventeen is Gino Smith.

605
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 3: He's really solid. I mean, I don't know how much

606
00:28:59,040 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: longer he will be.

607
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: Sixteen Caleb Williams. He should be lower.

608
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: He has to be lower. He should be like May

609
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: had a much better year than him. Yeah, as rookies

610
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: in terms of what was around him. And all that.

611
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: The grand scheme of things, Bryce Young probably had a

612
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: better year than him.

613
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Young's way too low now. I don't think Young's great,

614
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 3: but he should be twenty one.

615
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: His play in the second half of the season was

616
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: better than that of Caleb Williams.

617
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams is closer to like a penix right now,

618
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: just in terms of where i'd rank him. Yeah, it's

619
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: a lot of unknown, but it's more negative than positive.

620
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: Fifteen is Bo Nicks Kyler Murray's getting ridiculously disrespected here.

621
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 3: Gino Smith's better football right now than Bonicks. Yeah, you know,

622
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: putting the cars before the horse. We're not talking about

623
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: what they're going to become.

624
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 2: No. Fourteen is Dak Prescott.

625
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I think that's what he slipped down to the

626
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: last couple of years have been, you know, hard to

627
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: stay in the field and doesn't run anymore.

628
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: Thirteen is CJ. Stroud.

629
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, bet that he's much higher. We all said, Yeah,

630
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 3: Twelve is Justin Herbert. Well, there's gonna be some names

631
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: up here. I'm going to disagree with. You're right. I

632
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: don't think there's eleven quarterbacks better than Justin Herbert.

633
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: Eleven is Baker Mayfield.

634
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 3: I think you have to give him credit after a while.

635
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: I mean the Tampa stint has been really impressive.

636
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: Rather of Herbert. But yeah, ten is brock Purdy.

637
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: It'd be more like fourteen.

638
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: Nine Jared Goff.

639
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: If you protect him, I mean you gotta do it.

640
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: He couldn't ask him just to be behind a terrible

641
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 3: line running around making plays.

642
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: But he's in a good situation. The next one I'm

643
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: going to disagree with. He should be lower Jordan Love

644
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: at eight.

645
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 3: He's not eight. No, I mean he's not better than

646
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: justin Herbert.

647
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: It's no better in Baker Mayfield right now.

648
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: No, No, he's not. He's twelve.

649
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 2: Seven is Matthew Stafford. Yeah, he's the best one we've

650
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: mentioned in my opinion. Six Patrick Mahomes.

651
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 3: No, I mean that's that's that's sad.

652
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: Five is Josh Allen.

653
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 3: There's four quarterbacks on the planet better than those two.

654
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: What are we doing here? Four is Lamar Jackson.

655
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: They're the best three on the planet.

656
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, Burro, come on, what are.

657
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 3: We doing here?

658
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 5: Three?

659
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: I mean three is Joe Burrow.

660
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Speaker 3: They're the best four. They're in their own tier, folks.

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Speaker 3: So that so that means Hurts is in the top two.

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Speaker 2: Two is Jalen Hurst. One is Jaden Daniels. That's sad

663
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Speaker 2: who wrote this crap that is really bad? Cody Benjamin.

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Speaker 3: I don't know you, Cody, but Cody be a problem dude.

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Speaker 2: Hey, commander Cody Man, Come on, I mean, I don't

666
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Speaker 2: like to rip on other people's work.

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Speaker 3: No, right, were right, Jade.

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Speaker 2: And Daniels the number one quarterback in the league right now.

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Speaker 3: The top four to me are very very easy. We

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Speaker 3: can fight about the r this.

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Speaker 2: Is coming out of the draft like no, no, and

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: Think Burrow's there yet. But truly, to me, Lamar, Allen

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Speaker 3: and especially Mahomes are all time greats in their prime.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I am a huge Jayden Daniels fan.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but one overall.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you I'll make an argument I can

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Speaker 3: gladly be Jayden Daniels lawyer that he's the next of

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Speaker 3: the not of the four. And there's four that are

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Speaker 3: way up here, guys, way up here that it could

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Speaker 3: be all time all time greats. Yeah, and we're watching them.

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Speaker 3: They're all in the able year.

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Speaker 2: J Daniels right one.

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Speaker 3: We can talk about who's number five, but you can't

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Speaker 3: talk about who's one through four. Come on, they're their

686
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 3: own teams and it's not even close ours too.

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Speaker 2: Come on.

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Speaker 3: So I heard this on a podcast and we don't

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Speaker 3: have time to do it, but I would love to

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Speaker 3: do it with you one of these days that they

691
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Speaker 3: went through and said, if I took my Homes and

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Speaker 3: added him to thirty one other teams in the league

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Speaker 3: and took their quarterback away, how many of those teams

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Speaker 3: would be super Bowl contenders? Like Deers are definitely one

695
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Speaker 3: of them. Yeah, if you put Mahomes on Steelers, they

696
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Speaker 3: are a super Bowl contender. And then the other argument

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Speaker 3: was how many quarterbacks could you put on the Eagles

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Speaker 3: instead of Hurts and they would still be Super Bowl contenders?

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Speaker 3: Which list is bigger? And it kind of is a

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Speaker 3: final exercise because would you rather have the team or

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Speaker 3: the stud?

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Speaker 2: I'd rather the stud.

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Speaker 3: Win. I think so too.

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Speaker 2: I think I could win with Mahomes with about twenty

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Speaker 2: four other teams. I say it's a lot.

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Speaker 3: They're both pretty long lists, like Baker Mayfield on the

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Speaker 3: Eagles would go pretty far. I mean, they're both really

708
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Speaker 3: long lists. And it's a fun conversation.

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Speaker 2: But that list isn't as long as the.

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Speaker 3: Mahomes list is great. I mean, he's not gonna take

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Speaker 3: the Saints to the super Bowl, but if you could

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Speaker 3: pick everything, no, right, right, there's somebody can do that.

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Speaker 3: But he might take them to the playoffs maybe maybe,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean the Colts would be a super

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Speaker 3: Bowl contender with it. Yeah, I mean, like, if you

716
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Speaker 3: really think about it. Both lists are pretty long.

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Speaker 2: Where would Aaron Rodgers come in at on this list?

718
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Speaker 3: I'm thinking like Tua Land, but with much variance.

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Speaker 2: Tua was twenty one. It was Tua McCarthy, Drake.

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Speaker 3: May McCarthy, Lawrence you know, I think like Lawrence Land

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Speaker 3: for now. Now that could go to thirty if he

722
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Speaker 3: doesn't want to get hit anymore and everything falls apart,

723
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Speaker 3: or they could go to nine if he's on fire.

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Speaker 3: I mean like he'd be one of the most volatile

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Speaker 3: ones on there of what is to come. But where

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Speaker 3: he is now I would put him slightly below average. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one, you saw where Fields and Wilson ranked on here.

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Speaker 3: I'd have my head of those two in terms of

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Speaker 3: give me the best chances to win today and where

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Speaker 3: are you today? Yeah? Okay, that was the not doesn't

731
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Speaker 3: mean I would rather have two for the Steelers, right,

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Speaker 3: you know there's a lot that's party year. Okay, you know,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, I think people what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: That's the very interesting list on CBS. Come on, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: were for years kind of with you there until you

736
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Speaker 2: get to that top Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think the rest of the list was bad,

738
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Speaker 3: but the top six were whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: the top four have to be the top Come on,

740
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Speaker 3: young man. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, we're gonna get to another break. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the

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Speaker 2: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. We'll be back

744
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Speaker 2: to finish up the show. We're here from Steelers general

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Speaker 2: manager Omar Kahn. Right after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and as I mentioned earlier in

751
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Speaker 2: the show, Steelers general manager Omar Kahan, who typically doesn't

752
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Speaker 2: talk after happened from the drafts until he has a

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Speaker 2: press conference at to start a training camp and that's it,

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Speaker 2: UH decided, Hey, is it only because of the trade.

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Speaker 2: I think the trade had a big part of it. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe signing a quarterback might change it. But

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Speaker 2: typically the way things work is that once this part

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Speaker 2: portion of the season starts, Mike Tomlin is the spoken Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's a guy that does all the talking. In this case,

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Speaker 2: I think Omar Khan felt, hey, I'm gonna come out

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Speaker 2: and talk about this trade because I kind of there's

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Speaker 2: or anything right right, right, okay, but some interesting things

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Speaker 2: said he I can't wait to see what he said.

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Speaker 2: I thought we just played the whole thing back and

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Speaker 2: let let our listeners hear what he had to say.

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Speaker 4: The trade, Uh, sort of happened quickly.

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Speaker 5: You know, we had we had some people acquired under

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Speaker 5: the draft, nothing that really made.

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Speaker 4: Sense, and Cowboys reached out. I don't remember what day

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Speaker 4: of worked earlier this week, and you.

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Speaker 5: Know they gave us, they proposed something that for us

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Speaker 5: to think about, and you know, we had conversations internally.

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Speaker 5: You know, I also had some conversations with George's age

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Speaker 5: of Dave, who I have a good relationship with, and

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Speaker 5: you know, we we we discussed where things I guess

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Speaker 5: have been with George where they are and you know

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Speaker 5: where things could go with George, and uh, you know

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Speaker 5: this is just trade made sense for everyone.

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Speaker 4: But here we are and happy. Ta any questions. Did

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Speaker 4: he wanted to leave?

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Speaker 5: He never He never asked, if you're asking you, I

782
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Speaker 5: was never asked to.

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Speaker 4: I was never told that he wanted to leave.

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Speaker 6: Now, you guys have been pretty supportive of him throughout

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Speaker 6: his three years here.

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Speaker 4: How did you get to the.

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Speaker 5: Point where him going somewhere else turned out to be

788
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Speaker 5: the best course of action? You know, we just kind

789
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Speaker 5: of talked about it, you know, a lot lots of

790
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Speaker 5: serious conversation on as conversations and he just felt that

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Speaker 5: fresh start for for for both sides was the right thing.

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Speaker 7: Where those conversations about a potential extension were negotiating with

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Speaker 7: him for an extension, you know.

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Speaker 5: We don't we don't talk about uh negotiations.

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Speaker 4: We just felt it was a time for a fresh start.

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Speaker 8: Omar, is it obvious to say that draft picks are

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Speaker 8: harder to come to high more valuable before the draft draft?

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Speaker 5: Uh, it's a good question, you know, like for me,

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Speaker 5: those those draft picks are valuable no matter what. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know, when you get to the UH, I think

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Speaker 5: this is what you're asking, Jim. But I think when

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Speaker 5: you when you're dr when you're the day of the draft,

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Speaker 5: or or you're going through the draft or those every

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Speaker 5: one of those picks feels like they're the the.

805
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Speaker 4: Like the greatest pick.

806
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Speaker 5: You know that they're that you don't want to get

807
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Speaker 5: rid of them, or or they're valuable.

808
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Speaker 4: But I mean they're they're all They're all important. Interview

809
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Speaker 4: it is do you use is it disappointment? Did it

810
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 4: didn't work out? Or do you just move on and

811
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Speaker 4: say we got that third round pick, let's just move on.

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Speaker 4: How how does the organization fill Yeah, you know, I

813
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Speaker 4: wouldn't use the word disappoint ointment. You know, we had

814
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Speaker 4: three years with George and you know we had.

815
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Speaker 5: Some exciting times, but you know it was just time.

816
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Speaker 4: For the fresh start for both sides. Was was was

817
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 4: the right thing? How does this impact this team this year?

818
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Speaker 4: And how did you feel about the depth of receiver?

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Speaker 5: We would have done this if we didn't feel good

820
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Speaker 5: about the this receiver situation.

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Speaker 4: About our death year, you know, and know people will

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Speaker 4: make the comparison about last year. It's it's not even

823
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Speaker 4: closed to be in the same Well, what's the difference, Well,

824
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Speaker 4: you know, obviously we've made an investment with DK, We've

825
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Speaker 4: had another year with some of the young guys and

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Speaker 4: gotten to know them, watch them develop.

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Speaker 5: We had a Robert Woods who, like I said, we've

828
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Speaker 5: had wrote romans healthy.

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Speaker 4: I've seen him the last.

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Speaker 5: Couple of weeks out here, uh and how he's doing

831
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Speaker 5: and so how he was progressing at the end of

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Speaker 5: last year.

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Speaker 4: Obviously he didn't get the chances to.

834
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Speaker 5: Uh uh to get on the field, but there was

835
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Speaker 5: some excitement there. Uh.

836
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Speaker 4: But we we have a good group. You know, there's some.

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Speaker 5: Guys that came are back and we've seen their growth

838
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Speaker 5: and have another year und our belt with them and

839
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Speaker 5: feel good about it.

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Speaker 7: Is there a potential pool that's more easily accessible for

841
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Speaker 7: veterans in free agency as opposed.

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Speaker 4: To where you were a year.

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Speaker 7: Ago to because it felt like last year when all

844
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Speaker 7: those names are being bandied about there were trade potential trades,

845
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Speaker 7: whereas do you have a water pool that maybe you

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Speaker 7: can pick from in free agency this year they could.

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Speaker 4: Backfill you mean right now as we sit here today. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, like yeah, you know, I I'll say this.

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Speaker 5: You know, if there's an opportunity to add a playmaker

850
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Speaker 5: and an offense, you know, regardless.

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Speaker 4: Of as the receiver or work as you know, we're

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Speaker 4: gonna look into it. And uh, you know, if it

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Speaker 4: makes sense, it makes sense.

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Speaker 5: But you know that there's there's always good players available,

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Speaker 5: and I mean that's.

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Speaker 4: An interesting question. I there there's good players out there,

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Speaker 4: and if we wanted to add some people, good but

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Speaker 4: you know, we we feel comfortable with them. Has there

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Speaker 4: been an outright in terms of acquiring draft capital for

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Speaker 4: next year? Has that been an objective that you aggressively.

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Speaker 2: Have been trying to do or in terms of the

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Speaker 2: compexitory picks and things like that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll say, you know, this year we were in

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Speaker 5: a position where uh I enjoying Uh how should I

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Speaker 5: say this? It was important for us to acknowledge the

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Speaker 5: fact that we could be in a position to acquire

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Speaker 5: a conflicts next year. And you know, I mean the

868
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 5: guys saw how we did things in the offseason. That's

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00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 5: obviously something that was uh on the back of our

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Speaker 5: minds when we made decisions.

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Speaker 4: And uh, we'll see how it all shakes out. You know,

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Speaker 4: the next phase of this and how much these guys

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Speaker 4: played in determament where those those compicts end up. Uh,

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Speaker 4: but that's something.

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Speaker 6: We were you know obviously cognizt enough, so we got

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Speaker 6: to play a role.

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Speaker 8: And why you didn't trade on draft weekend and didn't

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Speaker 8: packed position year?

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Speaker 4: Uh what do you mean say it again?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 8: The next year's draft pick and and uh what you

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Speaker 8: had just said, they didn't play the role. I it

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Speaker 8: you didn't make the trade on draft weekend because of that?

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Speaker 4: No, No, it's likely it we It just it wasn't.

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Speaker 5: You know, the ah a trade that was interesting to

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Speaker 5: us was not there a draft weekend.

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Speaker 4: You know, team's called and they you know a lot

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Speaker 4: of times you just talking hypotheticals and people.

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Speaker 5: Say, hey, would you do X, Y or Z, and

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Speaker 5: you know most of the time the answers now and

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Speaker 5: there was just nothing there that was worth uh, you know.

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Speaker 4: Discussing and owners meetings maybe elsewhere.

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Speaker 6: You guys sound pretty exciting about d K and George's

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Speaker 6: chematic challenges.

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Speaker 4: I can prevent the defense? Is what changed between now

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Speaker 4: and Wednesday?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's just you know, I guess we

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Speaker 5: had a team they called and you know, gave us

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Speaker 5: something worth thinking about. And you know, we had the

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Speaker 5: conversations and like I said, we talked about you know.

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Speaker 4: Where we've been and where we are, where we could be.

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Speaker 4: It just it just it just made sense that the U.

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Speaker 3: A fresh start was a good idea.

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Speaker 6: And the business aspect always comes in with guys in

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Speaker 6: the last year their deal, whether they're younger or older.

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Speaker 6: And did you guys think there was a chance he

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Speaker 6: was gonna hold do the whole end type thing and

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Speaker 6: training camp and and all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's that's a hypothetical.

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Speaker 5: I I don't I don't know where that would have gone.

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Speaker 4: There's last one, last one. You guys have had recent

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Speaker 4: trading way of receivers that you guys have drafted.

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Speaker 5: Does that impact any vision for how you guys want

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Speaker 5: to assemble your talent or the type of players you

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Speaker 5: want to bring into your organization and moving forward. No,

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Speaker 5: I mean some of that's just really coincidence that was

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Speaker 5: played out with the position.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're always trying to get good players, regardless of.

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Speaker 5: What position it's at and at any at any point

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Speaker 5: in the year, So you know, I think there's.

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Speaker 4: Some coincidents of that, but we're going.

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Speaker 5: To get good players, good people, and you know, we're

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Speaker 5: chasing a championship, and every decision we make is based

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Speaker 5: on trying to win a championship, not only you know, in.

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Speaker 4: The future, but this year. I mean, we're focused on

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Speaker 4: trying to win a championship this year. And you know,

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Speaker 4: I know there's a.

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Speaker 5: Lot of questions about different things, but there's a lot

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Speaker 5: of time between now and the start of the season

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Speaker 5: and the rest assure we're trying to un.

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Speaker 4: A championship this year.

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Speaker 2: That was Steelers General manager Omar Kahn with the assembled

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Speaker 2: media earlier today over at the Steelers rookie Mini camp,

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Speaker 2: which will continue through the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Days right there day, Saturday, Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they'll see if there's any more news that

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Speaker 2: comes out of that whole event. But some interesting stuff

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Speaker 2: there from Omar. We had already talked about a lot

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Speaker 2: of that stuff.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, it's our last segment of the week.

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Speaker 3: But we got schedule release stuff coming up. We got

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Speaker 3: more rotas on things.

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Speaker 2: I did want to mention. The NFL going to make

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Speaker 2: some announcements on some of the early games. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think some maybe like the Black Friday game, maybe

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Speaker 2: the International Games. That's going to start Monday and Tuesday, so.

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Speaker 3: Maybe start filtering in some maybe.

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Speaker 2: We'll get an idea of when that game in Ireland

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Speaker 2: will be played.

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Speaker 3: Cool, really looking forward to it. I'm sure r a

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Speaker 3: Wednesday that'd be great. So and then we're being as

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Speaker 3: live schedule release show as we always do.

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Speaker 2: We are. Yeah, but so lots of stuff coming here

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Speaker 2: next week. A busy week, but that's going to do

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Speaker 2: it for us today. For my partner Matt Williamson, for

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Speaker 2: Justin Miller here on site running the Justin Miller Hotline

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Speaker 2: you can hear him on Kiss FM. And for Tyler

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Speaker 2: Viittmeyer joining us back in studio today. Make making sure

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Speaker 2: our video gets out there on the YouTube. I am

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Speaker 2: Dale Lolly. We thank you for listening to this edition

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Speaker 2: of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network