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Speaker 1: over the next sixty minutes. He was allowed to get you.

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Speaker 1: good for you. That's awesome. What is that like a

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Speaker 1: more about WrestleMania coming up here in a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But of course that presented by Tostitos, America's chip for

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Speaker 1: America's team. We have got way too much to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Free agency is around the corner. By the time we

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Speaker 1: record next week, the legal tampering period will have already

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Speaker 1: been open. We'll be getting into everything going on there.

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Speaker 1: Today is the tag deadline, so there's been some transitions,

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Speaker 1: some franchise tag talk thrown around in the league. Specifically

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the Thuse Cowboys. There's a certain

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Speaker 1: tight end. That looks like he's on his way to

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Speaker 1: the it's franchise tag. It is done. It's done, Dalton

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Speaker 1: Schultz franchise tagged by the Dallas Cowboys. Rob, what are

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Speaker 1: the details on that? One ten point eight million for

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Speaker 1: one year? Unless unless, and and and what they would

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Speaker 1: rather do, my toss is go ahead. What you thought

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Speaker 1: that was a bump rut there? Rob, to go first,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll promise what you said, unless, well, unless

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Speaker 1: they get a long term deal done with him before July.

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Speaker 1: So and honestly, that would probably be ideal if they

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Speaker 1: want to keep him around long term. They definitely want

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Speaker 1: him for this year, could lower his tag number. I mean,

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Speaker 1: think of what they did with Dak last year. Dak's

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Speaker 1: base salary after the deal he got record one sixty

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Speaker 1: you're talking about it, they want to create all the space.

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Speaker 1: That would be ideal to do that, But I don't

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Speaker 1: next week. But look, hey, it prevents them from like

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Speaker 1: There's a ton of question marks. We're gonna talk about it.

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Speaker 1: But Isaiah, what is your reaction? Why why the mic

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Speaker 1: toss when tagging Dalton Scholtz. First of all, congrats to Schultz.

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Speaker 1: He earned it here. He worked his butt off. He

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Speaker 1: personally don't believe he's dominant enough of a tight end

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Speaker 1: end room exactly. There's no one else left. There's no

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Speaker 1: for my Blake Jarwin, who They don't know what the

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Speaker 1: So what do you do when you need a tight end? Now,

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Speaker 1: a few tight ends to pick from, but will they

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Speaker 1: be there? You don't know that. So I think the

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Speaker 1: safe bet, even for the money, is to go Dalton

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Speaker 1: we love to talk statistics when it works against the player,

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Speaker 1: but what about when it works with the player top

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Speaker 1: man because you can see there are those blaring weaknesses,

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Speaker 1: he's shown himself in twenty twenty and even twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: one he backdoored with another solid performance. Come on, he

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Speaker 1: got his money. He did it the way that all

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Speaker 1: professional athletes. How you point to it. You know the business,

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Speaker 1: and you know this guy did what he had to

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Speaker 1: But I'm sure the Dallas Cowboys are wanted to work

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Speaker 1: any better the fact that Blake Jarwin is such a

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Speaker 1: to move forward. Thank you for everything you've done, Dalton.

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Speaker 1: Go get your money, Go get it elsewhere, go figure

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Speaker 1: there's a chance that they sign a long term deal.

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Speaker 1: They can take that tag off and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, he's not playing on that that money, and

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a lesser cap it. There's there's ways

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Speaker 1: to finagle that, for sure. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: I get your frustration because you want to see other

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Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, Tank Lawrence. We'll get to that in a

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Speaker 1: moment as well. But Dalton Schultz is the name that

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Speaker 1: you're stuck with, and it may have been a bigger

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Speaker 1: necessity than you had originally thought. That's what That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think this is a necessity tag instead

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Speaker 1: we just can't let that person go. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: free agent. They need another blocking tight end. I tick

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Speaker 1: back to the necessity word, right. I think this is

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Speaker 1: a necessity tag and it's to buy them time, right,

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Speaker 1: which is fully at their disposal understanding. Look, when I

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Speaker 1: the top five at their position? Is that what it is? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: At ten point, it's the second lowest tag figure. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's better than it was when he came

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Speaker 1: Waller how better than Gazecki better? Wawler got hurt better

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Speaker 1: the stretch list the most consistent players on the Dallas

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Speaker 1: what about a Marii Cooper. He wasn't just because they

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Speaker 1: chose not to throw him the ball. So I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: to say, but but if you have a Gasecki and

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Speaker 1: you have a Dalton Schultz, I'm taking Geisecki. Wow, he's

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Speaker 1: more of a threat at that position. In my eyes,

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys I could do that with and

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Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not downplaying what Dalton shows effect on

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Speaker 1: Absolutely helps that. But that doesn't mean that doesn't make

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Speaker 1: him a dominant player. I'm not saying he's a dominant player.

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Speaker 1: Giseki asked you better have your eye on that you're

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Speaker 1: saying is by definition when you get the franchise you

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Speaker 1: are and no one is circling Dalton Schultz's name when

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Speaker 1: about it on this show, but it's continuing to get

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Speaker 1: stronger and stronger, especially over the week in Indianapolis, that

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence reports out there that he was asked to

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Speaker 1: take a pay cut and ultimately declined, so there's question

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Speaker 1: marks around his future with the team. Amari Cooper also

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Speaker 1: rumored to be let go at some point. These are

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Speaker 1: And then Michael Gallup rumored to be getting a deal

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Speaker 1: done over the next couple of days. So Rob, where

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Speaker 1: does that leave you in terms of this Cowboys off season?

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Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like it's in. I mean, outside of the

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Speaker 1: We tried to warn everybody, we tried it was good

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Speaker 1: the last few weeks that like they had a lot

496
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Speaker 1: Dave did a great job up there. I'm sorry I

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Speaker 1: could join you. Yeah we missed you up there, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean look for Tank. Stephen Jones was asked the

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Speaker 1: and he didn't want to speak specifically to those guys.

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Speaker 1: Like he said, it was too early to say committed

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Speaker 1: to the non comment. Yes, so it's too early to

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Speaker 1: say about a Mari status for this season. Obviously that's

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Speaker 1: you know, it's on the table that he's not going

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Speaker 1: discussed that, right. I think with Tank, he's making i

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Speaker 1: think nineteen million set for this season. You have to

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Speaker 1: look at that value. And it doesn't mean he's not

513
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Speaker 1: a very very good player and doesn't add something, but

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Speaker 1: you've got to make the numbers work, and that's really

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Speaker 1: what it comes down to. That's what it comes down

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Speaker 1: to for a Mari as well. And if there was

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Speaker 1: a precursor to a Mari if he's not back, there

518
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Speaker 1: was foreshadowing for that last year because they we've talked

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Speaker 1: about restructures. At the end of the last segment, they

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Speaker 1: did not touch his contract. They decided, look, well we're

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Speaker 1: going to keep it the way it is. They restructure

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Speaker 1: other guys. I think three offensive linemen maybe that was

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Speaker 1: a couple years ago, not a Mari's, and so it

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Speaker 1: makes for a cleaner cut if that's what they want

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Speaker 1: to do this offseason. Is that why they're not kicking

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Speaker 1: the can down the road with a Mari Because I

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Speaker 1: mean that's a question that I've been asked, is if

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Speaker 1: they can do it with Zach Martin, if they can

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Speaker 1: do it with Dak Prescott, why is a Mari not

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Speaker 1: on that top of the list of trying to move

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Speaker 1: it down the road. Is it just a lesser of

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Speaker 1: the evils at the moment in terms of just trying

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Speaker 1: to pick and choose. I don't. I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: as simple as well he's not. I mean, nobody can

535
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Speaker 1: say they're better without him next season. But again, tough

536
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Speaker 1: contract decisions you have to in the salary cap era,

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Speaker 1: you got to look at it like, can we pay

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Speaker 1: all three guys eventually Ceedie Lambs eventually going to get

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Speaker 1: his money, So do you have to look at it

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Speaker 1: long term. I think so, I think you have to

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Speaker 1: look at it long term and say we can't pay

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Speaker 1: what we think are two one receivers at one At

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Speaker 1: some point we're gonna have to decide that's what they're

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Speaker 1: trying to do. Right now, that would overlap the last

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Speaker 1: year of a Mari's deal, right when Ceed would probably

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Speaker 1: start having those conversations probably now he's under contract until

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Speaker 1: after a Mari's contract is done three more years if

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Speaker 1: you give him the fifth year. Yeah, so I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: with that fifth year option, somewhere around there is when

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Speaker 1: you're gonna started talking about Ceede Lamb's contract. So there's

551
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: a chance there for overlap. So that makes sense on

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Speaker 1: way why maybe they don't want to kick that salary

553
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Speaker 1: cap hip all the way down there. But I mean

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Speaker 1: it's frustrating because either way, like Rob said, you're not

555
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Speaker 1: getting better without those two guys. I mean, playing simple,

556
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Speaker 1: you're probably not a better football team. I think we

557
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Speaker 1: said it last week we had the show. I try

558
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Speaker 1: to give everybody heads up that they're gonna point the

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Speaker 1: finger at Mary Cooper and say that you know you're

560
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Speaker 1: not you're not providing enough, you know, stats and you're

561
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Speaker 1: not providing enough on the field to justify your twenty

562
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Speaker 1: million dollars per year, even if we are the reason

563
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Speaker 1: why you're not getting the ball. So you're gonna say

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Speaker 1: bye bye to that, Mary Cooper most likely. And then

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Speaker 1: we also talked about d Law how they were going

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Speaker 1: him to take a pay cup. What did I say

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Speaker 1: that He gonna say hell to the no, he said, So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is what happens. So now you're in

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Speaker 1: a position where you may lose both guys because now

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Speaker 1: you've already pissed off d Law and have you pissed

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Speaker 1: him off? So now you're in a situation it's like,

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Speaker 1: can we even bring him back into the same environment

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Speaker 1: with him now being aggravated? You have to turn your

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Speaker 1: attenationory for Andy Gregory. Oh, obviously he's not getting tagged.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we thought that he was gonna get tagged,

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Speaker 1: but I think that they have to find a way

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Speaker 1: to secure him as well. So it's unfortunate. I'm okay

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Speaker 1: with them, you know, losing d Law. I'm not okay

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Speaker 1: with him losing Coop. Yeah, that's just my stance. I

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Speaker 1: understand that they are both there. They both bring a

582
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Speaker 1: dominant player, and I consider one to be a really

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Speaker 1: good player. DeMarcus Lawrence. I mean, like you said, if

585
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Speaker 1: he's a little disgruntled, if he's not happy with the

586
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Speaker 1: ask for a restructure or where they lie right now?

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Speaker 1: And he said in public, he said that he wants

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Speaker 1: to be a cowboy for life. But if they if

589
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Speaker 1: they cut him pre June one, you're still only saving

590
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Speaker 1: eight million dollars. And if both with him and Amari,

591
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Speaker 1: you're under the cap, if you cut him posts June one,

592
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Speaker 1: then you're saving a lot more money. Ultimately, I think

593
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Speaker 1: you're saving close to twenty million, almost nineteen million, I

594
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Speaker 1: believe is what it is. And you're eleven million under

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Speaker 1: the cap at that point. So is it a waiting

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Speaker 1: game or are we going to see this soon? Because

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Speaker 1: don't you have to get under that cap number within

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Speaker 1: a certain amount of weeks from where we are right now?

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Speaker 1: You gotta get into the cap by next Wednesday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so start of the new league here, so it's got

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Speaker 1: to happen before then, right, Yeah, Well, I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't know what happens here because I think it's tied.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah kind of hit on it. I think it's tied,

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Speaker 1: you know, as Randy Gregory back, because I've been saying

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Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson is a guy at the receiver position where

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Speaker 1: I think we might be like, whoa this deal he's

607
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Speaker 1: getting from somebody else and he's gone. Dorn's Armstrong could

608
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Speaker 1: be in the same boat next week, like from another team.

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Speaker 1: So where is your where's your defensive end depth chart

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Speaker 1: right now? And do you need tang? I mean, I go,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're better without him, but I just

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Speaker 1: don't know financially can they make it work. What I

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Speaker 1: want to offer up to this whole argument about Amara

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Speaker 1: Cooper is do you think that the Dallas Cowboys will

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Speaker 1: ever have a top five paid wide receiver in Kellen

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Speaker 1: Moore's offense? Kelly Moore is and I've alluded and teased

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Speaker 1: this quite a bit, that he is a guy or

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator that strikes me as a guy that believes

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Speaker 1: not for players. And that's what it is maddening in

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Speaker 1: this situation when you start asking and said, well, how

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Speaker 1: are you better when you get rid of are you

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Speaker 1: cut a supposed number one receiver? Well, if the players

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Speaker 1: are not designed to go your way, and if you

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Speaker 1: don't take advantage of the scheme that the defense is

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Speaker 1: playing to get your lead dog the ball, then a

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Speaker 1: lot of hell am I going to continue to play

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Speaker 1: guys that come here twenty million dollars? And that's why

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Speaker 1: I ask when you say that of our CD getting

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Speaker 1: this deal, will he because I think what the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: This is the actual guy that fell in our lap

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Speaker 1: that can be our number one receiver and we can

635
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Speaker 1: surround him with the talent that we need. I think

636
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: the Cedric Wilson's of the world, those kinds of wide receivers,

637
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: and people are gonna kill me for this, but I'm

638
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: telling you, in this offense, you would feel a lot

639
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: better with Cedric Wilson getting eight hundred and sixty whatever

640
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: yards as it would be Amari Cooper getting eight hundred

641
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: and sixty yards on a twenty million dollar contract. And

642
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: that's I believe that's where we're going in this offense.

643
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: That's a good point. And you know what, you can

644
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: also ask the question why did they make this Amar

645
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: deal in the first place, because that is two years

646
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: ago he signed the deal, right, Kellen Moore was, huh,

647
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: didn't know that was That's true, That's true, But I

648
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: mean Kellen Moore became the OC that year and so

649
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. Man No. Well it also it kind

650
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: of reminds me. I'm getting flashbacks to the Rod and

651
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: Marinelli days on the defensive side of the football, where

652
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,959
Speaker 1: it's like, our scheme is where we are. Our scheme

653
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: is what's what We're gonna put our players in the

654
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: right spot because our scheme is this way. Now you

655
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: look at what dan Quinn has done. Part of the

656
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: reason why the defense has had a turnaround is because

657
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: he's fit the players, or he's fit the scheme to

658
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: the players, he's fit Michael Parsons, or he's drawn up

659
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: things for Michael Parsons to let him be successful rather

660
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: than put Michael Parsons in what he thinks would be

661
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: what he wants to do ultimately, and that's where Kellen

662
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: Moore is trying to figure out where these players are

663
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: and if Amari Cooper doesn't fit there, then you're getting

664
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: rid of a really good player just for That's what's mad.

665
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: That's what's maddening is that everyone that knows Amark Cooper's

666
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: reputation around the league says, why the hell aren't y'all

667
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: throwing the ball to him on third? And you know

668
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: everybody knows that you need a reception, you need you're

669
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: down in the red zone. Why don't you throw it

670
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: to the best option that you have. And they're going

671
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: away from that, maybe throwing something out to a running

672
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: back out of the backfield or to your tight end.

673
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense to a lot of people. But

674
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore doesn't call plays that way, not the way

675
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: that you look around, Like, look at Cooper Cup right,

676
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup in and mcvay's offense. What does McVeagh do

677
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: he calls plays for Cooper Cup? You don't say, not

678
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: just during the season when the whole thing was on

679
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: the line, one last drive, h you knew who's getting

680
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: the ball. They knew, everybody know who's getting the ball.

681
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: Can't stop it doesn't matter. Yeah, So they're gonna they're

682
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: going to be sick. Listen here, they are going to

683
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: be sick to their stomachs if they allow Amari Cooper

684
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 1: to walk, which most likely he's gonna moon walk up

685
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: out of here, because there's gonna be a young dude

686
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: who just re upped over in New Green Bay pastures

687
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: who's gonna say, hmm, I need a number two, right,

688
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: and they're gonna grab have no money, No, all right,

689
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: they have no money. All right, he won't end up

690
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. All right, I'm gonna shoot that down

691
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: beforehand because it's not happening. Okay. Here's the other side

692
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: of this stuff too, which is, you know, I see

693
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: what you're trying to do, but like this, he's your

694
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: money in the pocket where he's not going to go

695
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: out to the next team and ask for to say,

696
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: take the league minimum either though. The way the deal

697
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: for a Maria was structured, it was almost like a

698
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: two year deal. Yeah, the way it was structured because

699
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: the way they could get out of it. And we'll

700
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: see if they get out of it. But the other

701
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: side of it, too is in twenty eighteen, he was

702
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: he's essentially your first round draft pick. Yeah, so after

703
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: a couple of years now made the trade, he's gone,

704
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: so and let's go. It would not be a good

705
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: ending there. And here's the other thing about Tank. Tank

706
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: is getting paid nineteen million dollars, and if you're getting

707
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: paid nineteen million dollars as an edge rusher, you're gonna

708
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 1: have to have double digit sacks. He hadn't had double

709
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: digit sacks for the Cowboys, and his cap it's even

710
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: bigger than that as cap its twenty seven. So that's

711
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that that kind of explains itself. And

712
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 1: especially if you're not willing to take less money, which

713
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: I'm obvious I'm with you, Tank. You know, get your money.

714
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: Why you can get your money, but the organizations has

715
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: a stance on this as well. If you can go

716
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: somewhere else and get more than it, okay, you're not

717
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: going to acquiesce to the pressure, then you're okay, then

718
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: you gotta go because I can get three guys to

719
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: do what you're doing. And talking about Dan Quinn and

720
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: what he realized, Look, I have a young Buzuka that

721
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: I can put all over the field, and I can

722
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: also bleed in other players over here. I just think

723
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: that in the NFL the tide is changing on guys.

724
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: You get your contract based off of your pass production.

725
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: But if you don't have that competitive edge to after

726
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: you get your contract, then you're going to be a casualty.

727
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: And that's and that's an issue because I think it's

728
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: one reason, it's a big reason why they don't sign

729
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: outside free agents, because they feel like they're paying for

730
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: what guys used to do and they don't have as much.

731
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: They don't have any kind of built in knowledge of

732
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: the player, So that's why they try to resign their

733
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: own guys. But what they're finding in these situations is

734
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: they've resigned these guys and they're not getting the same

735
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: value on the field that they thought they were getting.

736
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: And that's that's a problem because that goes against the

737
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: style of operation that you have with your money. Yeah,

738
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at even just the comparison's closest

739
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: contract comparison to DeMarcus Lawrence is Aaron Donald. And guess

740
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: who gets paid more by a cap salary number, by

741
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: a cap hit Lawrence. DeMarcus Lawrence gets paid more than

742
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald in terms of a cap hit. So and

743
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: there's a problem with that too. Aaron Donald probably needs

744
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: to see a bump in his pay that probably a

745
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: little bit, But there's that there's that conversation is if

746
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay a guy and he's gonna be a

747
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: twenty seven billion dollar cap hit, you need you need

748
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: that production in quarterback as good as DeMarcus Lawrence's pin.

749
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I like the idea of him

750
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: not being on the Cowboys. Don't get me wrong here,

751
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: but I understand the money side of things. If you're

752
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: gonna have to cut somewhere, that's probably where you're gonna

753
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: have to do it. Yeah, Unfortunately, it's a reality that

754
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: you see the Cowboy fan base is completely divided on

755
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: what to do here. But why they call it a

756
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: cap casualty is because it's not a positive thing. It

757
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: is a negative term for a reason because it's not fun.

758
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: It's not where you need. None of these things. None

759
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: of these things make us better. We understand that though.

760
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: I mean, and you look over last season and Stephen

761
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: Jones's interview and Andy he says, look, but twelve and five,

762
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: by a lot of accounts is a successful season. We

763
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: didn't get it done because we lost in the first round.

764
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: How do you become better after you let these two

765
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: players go? What you got to feel good about? The

766
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: guy that put the whole twenty twenty ones roster together.

767
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: That was him, right, So I mean at one end

768
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: you want to slap him, but then on the other

769
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: end you're like, Okay, you've made you've made good decisions

770
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: up until this point. I trust what you're gonna do

771
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: a twenty twenty two. I just don't think that people

772
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: trust it when you start throwing around names like Cooper

773
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: Tank just saying cool, what's going Yeah, well it will,

774
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: it will, and Heckma just said that. I mean, you

775
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: said it where we're not a better football team, But

776
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: at some point you got to get under those numbers.

777
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: When we come back on talking Cowboys, we're gonna run

778
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: through the list of Cowboys free agents and give our

779
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: confidence level that they will be back in Dallas. There's

780
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: twenty two names in twenty twenty two. One is already back.

781
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,680
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Speaker 1: Isaiah stanback with the mic flip that was a happy

824
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: mic flip. Thank goodness. Yeah, just just before that read

825
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: he looked like he was done. Shows a lot of frustration, man,

826
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: a frustration. I see the frustration in the chats too.

827
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: I see y'all talking. No, it's true, there's frustration everywhere.

828
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: We're there with you said that you're a crazy man.

829
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: In the chance that's what you said, Oh, Jay Howard

830
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: was better than Dults and Shultz crazy, That's not the case.

831
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: I'll take o J. Yeah. No, Howard Howard as to say, Oh,

832
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: as fun as this is what he's being ghost, he's

833
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: a chiller. How am I talking to oja OJ Howard? Boy? Yeah, dude,

834
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: he kills defenses. Bro, Can we just mark this bypasses blaze?

835
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: As frustrating as it is, it's been a fun show.

836
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: We've had a lot of fun. We're throwing out all

837
00:41:53,800 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: these points. This has been good at frustration. Um, I

838
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: want to run through the list of Cowboys free agents.

839
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: Let's go. We're gonna go in order of snap count

840
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: from the twenty twenty one season. Give me a one

841
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: through ten, ten being they're back here in Dallas. You're

842
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: gonna see them on the field in twenty twenty two

843
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: one being they're gone, They're elsewhere where Where do you

844
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: feel like your predictions lie heading into free agency? Because

845
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: that starts next week, and by the time we record

846
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: next week, we may have a pretty good picture of

847
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: how this Cowboys team is gonna look, at least heading

848
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: into draft weekend in April. So we're gonna start with

849
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: jay Ron Curse safety had eighty eight percent of snaps

850
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: this past year. He had only one point one million

851
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: on his deal. Where do you think he lies? He's

852
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 1: he gonna be back in Dallas? Heckma Harrison ten ten back.

853
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: I think I'm right there with you. What are you thinking? Ron?

854
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: I definitely they want him back. I don't you know? Again,

855
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: does he what are the negotiations of Like does he

856
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: want to go test? That's the question. What do you

857
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: think he's gonna get on an open market like that

858
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: five million? It's very tough because of his history. It

859
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: makes it complicated because you got one one big year

860
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: in a great system. And I think if I'm him,

861
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm sticking stay right through. I would

862
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: if the money's right. So do you feel like this

863
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: is a case where the guy's more valued than where

864
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: he's at right now as opposed to where his value

865
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: could lie amongst the league. But with Curses. I mean,

866
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: he's a big safety, can play, concovery, can tackle, he

867
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: can play in the box, be over the top. There's

868
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: so many different things he can do. Special teams in

869
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: there too. Dan Quinn is a nickel guy, so I mean,

870
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: look at what he got away with by having Jerun

871
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: Curse as the big nickel. So I mean the way

872
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: that these spread offenses are going, they're putting the ball

873
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: all over the place, and they're going with those slot

874
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: corners because of how dominant these tight ends are, right Yeah,

875
00:43:55,239 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: and it's putting a lot of guys inward like that. Us. Yeah, dude,

876
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: whenever they face O. J. Howard next year in Tampa

877
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: Bay or I guess Blaine Gabbert's gonna light it up

878
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: with OJ Howard, we don't curse whatever. I wonder if

879
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: that's in d q's new contract, Like you gotta bring

880
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: back curse, Okay, I'll sign. I'm gonna give it a

881
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a six point five, six point five,

882
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: super confident six point five. Reason band is because because

883
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: he might get that number as much as he may

884
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: want to go come back to being with deal your money.

885
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: If somebody you only have a small window to make money,

886
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: and if a team throws it out there, you gotta

887
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: grab it, regardless if you if you want to go

888
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: play in that organization or not. The money's gonna talk.

889
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: I feel like that's gonna be one of the answers

890
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: for a lot of these guys. Maybe not for these

891
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: next four that I'm gonna throw out there, but if

892
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: the money is right, is gonna be a question. I

893
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: think they're gonna make it right for for for Curse,

894
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna do what they can to get

895
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: out there and resign him. I think they're gonna make

896
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 1: something happen. Demante Kaz seventy eight percent of the snaps.

897
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 1: He was a one point two million hit there as well,

898
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: also at the safety position, where you think he's going here, No,

899
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: No two. I think I'm probably low three or four. Yeah,

900
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm low on him based off of obviously the production

901
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: and man, I was so excited about him to begin with.

902
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: He had a solid camp, just good camp. Yeah, just

903
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: the performance wasn't there throughout the season and couldn't stay

904
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 1: on the field. So I'm going off the field issues

905
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: too kind of maybe thrown in there. Yeah, I mean

906
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: he's a d Q guy, so you got to take

907
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: that into factor that in. But I would like to

908
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: see a full off season with Malie Cooker and maybe

909
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: he's the guy they try to bring back. Okay, well

910
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: his names on this list, we'll get down there here

911
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 1: in a second. Connor Williams at the left guard spot.

912
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: Mcconnor's gone, I think a one. Yeah, I don't think

913
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: he's here. I think if anything, they would roll with

914
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern then try and resign him to a long

915
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: or term deal or even a prove it deal. He

916
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: might want to change the scenery himself. It may be

917
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: best for him, honestly, you know. And I you know what,

918
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: then if he's leaving there for the last time, holding

919
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: on number fifty five for the Dallas Cowboys, vanderesh no

920
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: my bad, two fifty two fifty two my guy, Connor

921
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: bron on his way out the door. Connor hasn't left

922
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: the stay of Texas. Remember that, that's right, played in Texas,

923
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: played in Copel. Even. Yeah, he's leaving, man, he's somebody.

924
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna give him some bread, so he will be

925
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: with the Houston, Texas. I mean interior line will probably

926
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: be addressed. Uh, speaking of fifty five, since you brought

927
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: him up late in Vanderesh next Yeah, yeah, you were

928
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: getting the head. That's all it is. Okay, So middle

929
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: of the road potential there, Yeah, money wise, basically, if

930
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: it's low, then that's something there. Waitton wants to come back, right.

931
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: I think he really enjoyed playing for DQ, and they

932
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: need linebackers, so I wouldn't discount it. In room, I

933
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't discount it. But I could also see him moving

934
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: on to change the scenery. We'll see three point seventy eight. Okay.

935
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,479
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have their whole room is about

936
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: to be brand new. You might be right, yeah, I

937
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: mean yeah, except for might probably line back the whole room. Yeah,

938
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 1: drafts absolutely, I mean maybe somebody in free agency. Francis

939
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: Bernard will be back. He's exclused. I mean, dan Quinn

940
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 1: needs guys that can run run around. He hit real Cox,

941
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: he'll be coming off injury. Luke Gifford's a restricted free agent.

942
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm stepping on your list, Kyles. No, you're good. Yeah,

943
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 1: it's just a it is a long list. We'll kind

944
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: of run through a bunch of rapid fire names here

945
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: in a second, Layton Vanderesh, I think i'd put him

946
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: at a five. I think it's fifty fifty shot he

947
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: comes back because he may test that open market. He

948
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: may get some money there. But if he really wants

949
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: to be in Dallas, I think there's a chance he's back.

950
00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: Uh key on O'Neil. Probably low two point seven two. Okay, yeah,

951
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: I don't think so nothing. Kay, Maybe DQ guy same

952
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: thing with a little bit. I mean, I think dre

953
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: Bill Cox, if he's healthy, he can compete to get

954
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: more of those snaps. You know, we'll see Dawrence Armstrong

955
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: edge rusher six point two mmmmm, Okay, what do you

956
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 1: think Robbed I think he could if he tests the market,

957
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: I think he could get a nice payday somewhere. I

958
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: think so. I think I put him in Another guy

959
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: in the same category I mentioned earlier. I mean, he's

960
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: still on that rookie deal, still a guy who played

961
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: significant amount of snaps, only twenty five years old, and

962
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: the guy that the organization is high on the I mean,

963
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: and he's kind of proving them right. So I'm gonna

964
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: go seven point five kind of goes back to that

965
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: edge rusher room too. You know, kind of how you

966
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: were talking about linebacker. If DeMarcus Lawrence isn't there, if

967
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory isn't there, Lawrence Armstrong might be one of

968
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 1: those guys that they look at as a cheap deal

969
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: centric Wilson one, I put him in. I put him

970
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: in DA in the same category they want to keep

971
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: both guys. Sure you think it's more likely he's got

972
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: a five. I don't think he comes back. I think

973
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: he gets a deal that's going to raise some eyebrows. Maybe,

974
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: I think so. It's it's a lot harder for receivers

975
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: to become number one guys. I think the aggressive was

976
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: Wilson to try and bring him backing him back. Remember

977
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: Leron Robinson, h Yeah, man, he you know, he had

978
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: a bigger year than than said Sad. But but he

979
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: got paid the next offseason after working with Tony. I

980
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: could just I don't know, I don't see what the

981
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: marketing didn't Noah Brown just get to sign another dude today?

982
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: Did Yeah? Okay, one year extension. So he's off that list.

983
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: He's back and ready to bring to bringing a band back,

984
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: bringing the band back without nineteen minus nineteen silly. Uh.

985
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: Michael Gallops speaking of bringing the band back, He'll be

986
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: back probably interesting that. I mean, I know Gallup was

987
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: hurt all the way through, but just seeing the fact

988
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: that Cedric had more percentage snaps than Gallop this year

989
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: was was interesting in my opinion. I think he's a ten.

990
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: He's back. Yeah, it's almost they're working on a deal.

991
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm interested to see what it looks like

992
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: because just with the injury a lot of injury classes.

993
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: The church got a new deal after his achilles, you know,

994
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: and they bet on him and he came back strong,

995
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: so that's what they're betting on. I think it's good

996
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 1: transition into Malie Cooker with Achilles, maliek Cooker back. Hema,

997
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: I've already said that. I believe Mollie Cooker is back,

998
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go eight. Yeah, I think I'm probably

999
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: seven seven eight right there? Nine point one seven. Wow,

1000
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: you're very confident. Yeah, So you think it's cursing Hooker

1001
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: on the back side of that defense They put him

1002
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: in this past year to see if he still had

1003
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: it and he does bring him back. Okay, Yeah, I

1004
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I'm right. There with you. This is

1005
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: an interesting one. Carlos Watkins played in the interior of

1006
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: that defensive line. Was kind of your de facto nose

1007
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: tackle because of the lack of a true one technique

1008
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: on the roster outside of Quentin Bohanna. He was in

1009
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: that rotation with Osa Diggi Zua, with Nevill Gallimore. Do

1010
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: you think he comes back on a small deal. His

1011
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: deal initially was one point seven five, so I mean

1012
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: close to two million. He could probably get that again elsewhere,

1013
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: but yeah, two point seven I think. Don't think he's back.

1014
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: I don't think he's back. I think you have to

1015
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: give up some of your d lineman, and I think

1016
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna be one of the casualties. Okay. I think

1017
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: it's kind of a shoulder shrug for me. Man. I

1018
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: would like to bring him back. Honestly, he was a surprise.

1019
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: I mean the guy that Clemson played for the Texans.

1020
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: You didn't know what you were going to get out

1021
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: of him. He came in and he was high energy,

1022
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: gave you some quality reps, did some good things against

1023
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: the run. He was everything that you needed. And if

1024
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: you can get him on the cheap deal, I say

1025
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: bring him back. I mean, this is what we think

1026
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: is gonna happen, right, this isn't what we want. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1027
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: yeah predictions. But I mean I agree with him. I

1028
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: think that's the thought process. I think they want him back.

1029
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: They like having a veteran on that defensive line, like

1030
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: yeah Watkins. Yeah, although I mean you need to he

1031
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: DQ likes a deeper rotation. Right. But but you're thinking

1032
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: Osa is gonna take another step maybe you know, can

1033
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: Quinn Bohanna get some more snaps? So but yeah, yeah,

1034
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: I'll say yeah, I think I think he'll come back.

1035
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 1: I think he's on a one year deal. Again. I

1036
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: think it's for one or two year deal that they

1037
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: don't really have the liberties to kind of kick it

1038
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: down the road with guys. He's gonna be thirty this

1039
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: next season. I don't think they're gonna want to restrict

1040
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: the growth of their young guys. Yeah, I think it's

1041
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: a temporary deal. If they're gonna do it. Randy Gregory

1042
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: see back with the Dallas Cowboys. Can they afford to

1043
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: bring him back? That's probably a big question. Eight. So

1044
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: you're thinking, how did they do that? D Lal does?

1045
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: Then Brandy's back in the fold. Okay, probably a cheaper deal,

1046
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: loyalty bonus, maybe bus one shot to get paid because

1047
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: he's twenty nine, Yeah, and he's never gotten really a

1048
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: big deal. He just turned thirty two. Yeah, like he

1049
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: just turned thirty. I think, just crazy because he had

1050
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: how many games as he played? Not a lot? You know,

1051
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Speaker 1: I think he's back because I think. I think because

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00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: I think ultimately the structure in place here, everything he's

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00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: been through here, I think so. But the money's got

1054
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: to be right. He's not just gonna take nothing. And

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00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying based off of his production and

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00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 1: what he did this year. I think he let everyone

1057
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 1: know that he has a whole lot to offer a team.

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00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: And if you feel like other teams are gonna cherry

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00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: pick guys off of our roster, why wouldn't they look

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00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: at Randy Gregory the same way. Yeah, he has to

1061
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: get ten at least goodness, And if there's another team

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00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: out there willing to pay more, because there are rumored

1063
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: to be teams obviously that would be in the hunt

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00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: for him, that would pay him more on the one

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00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: year deal, and so the loyalty's loyalty bonus not for

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00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: that signing bonus that he's gonna want no, I mean

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00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: his this is as interesting a guy on the list

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00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: as anybody. I think so too. It's back and forth,

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00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: and it also it's one of those things where it's

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00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: if the money is right, if he's valued elsewhere, I

1071
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to get that same kind

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00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: of that same kind of thought process around the league

1073
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: as he does here really just based off of what

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00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: Rob said, I mean, he didn't. He hasn't played a

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00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: whole lot in the grand scheme of his career. He's

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00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: thirties years, thirty years old, and how many games does

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00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: he play? At thirty five games? They just don't even

1078
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: still make guys like him though, you know right, you

1079
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: look right, They just don't make not devaluing him for sure.

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00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking about body type and I'm talking about his

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00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: abilities and like the impact like you have. That's a

1082
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: guy you better circle, you know what I'm saying, Like

1083
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: as you think about defense ends like you circle him

1084
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: and that should be a ton of tread on the tires.

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00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: Yes for him, Yeah, absolutely so. At this point, I'm

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00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: just thinking about the roster in general. Who do we have, uh,

1087
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: Chauncey ghostin Basham Country, you know. I mean, so with that,

1088
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: listen that rotation. Even as we talk about Carlos Watkins,

1089
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: we have to understand, like DQ as a hell of

1090
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: a rotation that he plays with, and all of those

1091
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: guys are rotational guys. So I mean, I would love

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00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: to bring Randy back, but I think it's always going

1093
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: to be at the right price, and it's going to be,

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00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: you know, at the right price. That's it. Yeah, thirty

1095
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 1: or thirty six games over the last three years, fifty

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00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: games over his career, only twelve starts so in eleven

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00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: unto those came in twenty twenty one. That's just an

1098
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: interesting case, man, Because that's an interesting case because we,

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00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: like you said, Rob, guys typically get paid off of

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00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 1: the past performance. You don't really just have a sample

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00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: size with him to go off of. No, but if

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00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,919
Speaker 1: you know, if you're a team looking for a pass

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00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: rush and you turn on the tape of like the

1104
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: Pats game and you're like, holy crap, I mean that

1105
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: guy he wrecked the game, turned the game around for him.

1106
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: So it's it's a get it against Washington. He's got Yeah,

1107
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: he's got the tape. The tape is there, the player,

1108
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: the frame, the potential, all of that is there, but

1109
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: whether or not teams are willing to take a risk

1110
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: on him moving into their off season. Dallas, I think,

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00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: would say, come on back, We'll give you seven to

1112
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: eight mill. They're probably not gonna hit that ten million

1113
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 1: mark here. They're gonna have to That's I'm saying here.

1114
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think he could get that elsewhere.

1115
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: You don't think Dallas is gonna find ten million for him?

1116
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 1: I think they have to de law leaves. They have

1117
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: to find ten million. Seems like a steep number, and

1118
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: especially when you're thinking about having the paid draft class.

1119
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: Hear you, But if de law leaves, which I can't

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00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: see him coming back, you have to bring back Gregory.

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00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, I agree with it. And it has

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00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: to be at that number. Man. Uh Brian Anger punter,

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00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: Oh heck yeah, bringing him back? Yeah, Okay, Okay, nobody's

1124
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: arguing that are up? Uh not that they want to.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what putters what putters make.

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00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. He made one point one this past year,

1127
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: but he's an All Pro thirty four and he's an

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00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 1: All Pro. Punters can put yeah. Yeah, so I'll say yes.

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00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: But but it's the money again. Money's gotta be right. Uh,

1130
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: Jeremy Sprinkle, Oh here you go, gone gone okay? Uh

1131
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: Brent Urban, he go, Man. I want Brent. I wanted

1132
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: him to. I want him. You know, I changed my stance.

1133
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: Bring it back cheap. I give him five five. Give

1134
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 1: him five five just because he got hurt. Five point five.

1135
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: That's not the contract that is. That's my confidence level

1136
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: because I think that they want him back. I think

1137
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: that they need him back in terms of his presence,

1138
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: in terms his veteran presence, in terms of his size,

1139
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: and I think that he has unfinished business because of

1140
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: his injury from last year. I agree. And you talked

1141
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: about him last year how the running game kind of

1142
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: fell off, the defense fell off after he went out.

1143
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 1: He was a big part of that, taking on double teams.

1144
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: He just does a lot of things that doesn't make

1145
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: the stat sheet. So you need players like that. Can

1146
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: bo Hannam take that step as we think right now?

1147
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: Maybe not, but it would be good to have an

1148
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: insurance policy. But for sure, Urban, I'm sure he probably

1149
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: likes being here more though than in Chicago. When when

1150
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: he was talking about coming here. That was one of

1151
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: his big favorite things. Maybe he's back and he was

1152
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: in that rotation with Carlos Watkins at the same time,

1153
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: and I feel like those two guys coming back would

1154
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: be a positive five point five five point five tie

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00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: and Secky back. No, he's back back. Yes, cheap deal probably, Yeah, Okay,

1156
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: Malik Turner, I think he's got Wait a minute, let's

1157
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: talk value here on Turner, because he came in and

1158
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: he showed you some value special special teams guy that

1159
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: you talk about what he did on special teams and

1160
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: also as a receiver something on Now, I mean, he's

1161
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: a utility player that you need. You want him back,

1162
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: all right? Come on receptions one hundred and fifty yards,

1163
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: three or four touchdowns? Yeah you have three three touchdowns? Um,

1164
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: and then let me give you his He's twenty five

1165
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: percent touchdowns killing killing ten point three percent of offensive snaps.

1166
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: So that's not including his special teams at least a dog.

1167
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: I told Johnsons they signed him. I said it was

1168
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: a dog. He was gonna make a big impact. I

1169
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: think that they need to bring him back, not only

1170
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: from the special teams person, back to be in terms

1171
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: of cheap depth. I think that's somebody that you need

1172
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: to bring back. I don't see another team giving him

1173
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: a big payday. And I think he feels valued A

1174
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: big portion of when you're in that type of position,

1175
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: you want to feel valued, and I think he feels

1176
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: that here and they just roll back to punter real quick. Yeah,

1177
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: highest paid punter Johnny Hecker Hecker three point eight. You know,

1178
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: if Ryan Anger is looking for four million bucks a year,

1179
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, no, is that what he

1180
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: would be like that. I'm just saying. I'm saying he

1181
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: was a second team All Pro whatever, like they're gonna

1182
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 1: have to give him two million? Yeah, Okay, we'll see,

1183
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: uh rapid fire on these last five. Corey Clement one yeah,

1184
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: one there two for me, Maurice Kennedy okay two yeah yeah.

1185
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: Luke Gifford, that's your guy, Rob yeah yeah him back

1186
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: yeah okay, yeah, yeah, that's true. He's these last three

1187
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: guys are restricted or exclusive rights. Gifford, yeah, Francis Bernard

1188
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: probably just for depth, right yeah, Okay, So I didn't

1189
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: mean that nobody can even compete with anything, so yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Mitch Hyatt, well, he's been hurt. I mean, he's been

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01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: here for like ten years, and he feels like he's

1192
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: dealt with a lot of injuries. It's only twenty five yeah, yeah,

1193
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: but he feels like he's been around for twenty five years.

1194
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: And the first fifteen year oldrafty about Brent Urban, I

1195
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: remember this, he tweeted out the day after the season

1196
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: was over. Dallas, I love you and I love this team.

1197
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: Made all of the downs this year much easier to

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01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: deal with. I have to a lot to prove in

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01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, and he did the recycle like so, I

1200
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: think he likes it here. He likes Quinn, likes Dallas.

1201
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: So you may get him on that. You heard it

1202
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: here first hometown discount, hopefully Crispy He tweeted that, not me,

1203
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: heard that for seventeen twenty two. Heard it here first

1204
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Speaker 1: Crispan with the breaking news. Now that's it for us

1205
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: here on talking Cowboys discount, hometown discount for Prent Urban.

1206
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: He's back, baby. No Dalton Schultz tagged Noah Brown signing

1207
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: a one year extension. That's about what we've got right now.

1208
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: But when we come back next week, we will be

1209
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Speaker 1: right in the thickett things. A free agency and We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a lot more fights when we come back. O. G.

1211
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Speaker 1: Howard is not better than Dalton Schultz for Chris Bean

1212
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Speaker 1: Phillips for isaiahs, Daanback, heck My Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeoman's Isaiah,

1213
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Speaker 1: and heck more out of their minds. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: next week. I'm Talking Cowboys has been a production of

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