1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm Joe Matthew in Washington. This is special global coverage 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: of the State of the Union addressed tonight in Washington, 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: d C. Kaylee Lines, Rick Davis, and Genie Shanzano are 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: with us in our Washington bureau as we try to 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: unpack what we just heard. A laundry list, certainly, but 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: also a tone from this president that was predicted from 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: the White House, high energy umph behind the speech. He 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: did manage to find spontaneous moments, Kaylee, with a back 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: and forth with none other than Marjorie Taylor Green. It 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: was the issue of the border that really seemed to 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: light up Republicans tonight in this room. 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Marjorie Taylor Green confronting the President from across many 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 2: rows of seats about Lake and Riley, who we discussed 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: earlier this evening, a college student in Georgia who was 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: killed by a person who was in the country illegally. 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: He did say Lake and Riley's name. He addressed her parents, 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: and leaning on the empathy we have often seen from 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: this president, says he understands what it was like having 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: lost children him self, what they must be experiencing. Interesting 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: though that on the actual substantive issue of the border, 21 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: which we knew was going to likely feature heavily into 22 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,639 Speaker 2: this speech, he didn't get to it until about forty 23 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: minutes in. He instead began with the issue of Ukraine, 24 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: then moving to the issue of democracy. One of the 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: big highlight lines in the first portion of the speech 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: coming from the president, and he was alluding to his predecessor, 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: said that you can't love your country only when you win. 28 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: And Joe he said that line after talking about January sixth, 29 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: and from there, of course, we saw him touch on 30 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 2: many other issues, abortion, the economy, and ending the skeeech 31 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: this evening, addressing what many see as one of his 32 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: biggest weaknesses as he campaigns for a second term, his age, 33 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: he said, I've been around a while, trying to play 34 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: a joke about it, but then also said the issue 35 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: facing our nation is not how old we are, it's 36 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: how old our ideas are. And it was really toward 37 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: the end of this speech that you saw Biden in 38 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: campaign mode, not just addressing the Erican people in this 39 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: Congress as president, but as someone who would like to 40 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: stay president for another four years. 41 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: Show Yeah, Kayllie. We heard him use that line on 42 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: Late Night with Seth Meyers a couple of weeks ago 43 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: about whether your ideas are old, and he certainly delivered 44 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: that here with some emphasis as he did the money 45 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: line of the night. The state of our union, he said, 46 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: is strong and getting stronger. Not everyone in the room 47 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: agrees with that, of course, and I will tell you 48 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: that in this Statuary Hall, all the lawmakers are now 49 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: emerging from the chamber. Senators and members of the House 50 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: are streaming bias here, and we're going to have conversations 51 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: with some of them coming up here on Bloomberg for 52 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: their impressions, as I mentioned D's and R's who sat 53 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: through this Kalian. Of course, we're now going to be 54 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: hearing the official Republican response to this address tonight from 55 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: the President. Yeah. 56 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: Senator Katie Britt of Alabama, of course, had forty two 57 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: years old, the youngest woman Republican ever to be elected 58 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: to the Chamber, will shortly give the Republican response, and 59 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: of course we will be bringing you that response live 60 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: on Bloomberg Television and radio. But we also do want 61 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 2: to get the response of our political panel who is 62 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: still with us, Genie Shanzano of Iona University and Rick 63 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: Davis partner at Stone Court Capital. Are still here with 64 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: me at the Washington Bureau, and Genie, I would like 65 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: to just begin with you. This speech was over an 66 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: hour long. One of the big conversations we were having 67 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: going into it is not what the President said, but 68 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: how he said it being important. How would you rate 69 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: his performance this evening? Aside from the policy he outlined. 70 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 3: You know, I have to say I think the performance 71 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: itself it was energetic. Joe used the word he had 72 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: a lot of umph. I think it was raucous. He 73 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 3: was interacting with members of Congress, and I think performance wise, 74 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: he may have been able to do what he did 75 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: last year, which was twell some of the doubts about 76 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: his age and his ability. So I think from a 77 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 3: performance perspective, I'm not sure that the White House or 78 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: the campaign could have expected anything more from this president, 79 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: and I think his experience showed this is Joe Biden 80 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: in his element. He is, after all, a man of Congress, 81 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: having served in this body from seventy three to two 82 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: thousand and nine, after which he went to the White House. 83 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 3: So I think this was a night where by performance standards, 84 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 3: he did exceed a lot of expectations. And that's the 85 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 3: way Joe Biden likes it. He feels like he's been 86 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: underestimated for most of his political and professional career, and 87 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 3: at those important moments he has done what he needed 88 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: to do. And I think tonight was one of those nights. 89 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: Rick your impressions here of this address, expectations were so 90 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: high and made even higher by this White House. It 91 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: promised and energetic Joe Biden at nine o'clock at night, 92 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: and it sure seemed like we got one. You might 93 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: not agree with everything he said, but Ricky had the 94 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: room in the palm of his hand for extended periods 95 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: of times, and I'd even achieved some back and forth, 96 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: some call and response with Republicans. Did he meet his goal? 97 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he did. 98 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 5: I mean, look at how he started this speech out, 99 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 5: extremely strong, high paced, very strong wording around democracy, one 100 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 5: of his favorite topics. 101 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: They went with. 102 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 5: Something that I think he thought he could get comfortable 103 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 5: out and sound like he's really embraced it. I think 104 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 5: we also saw the makings of the campaign speech. I mean, 105 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 5: one of the things I always look at is what's 106 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 5: happening in the first fifteen minutes, because, with all due respect, 107 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 5: not everybody sits through the entire speech like we did tonight, 108 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 5: and so you want to get the biggest audience around 109 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 5: that key terms, and it was democracy, abortion rights, the pandemic, comeback, 110 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 5: the economy, and infrastructure, and I think after that the 111 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 5: rest of it was much more of a traditional state 112 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 5: of the Union and less campaigning. 113 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: Until the end. 114 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 5: He used this opportunity to contrast over a dozen times 115 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 5: with his predecessor, the unnamed man in this speech, Donald Trump, 116 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 5: and I think it was very aggressive in that case. 117 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 5: So I would say this speech was an offensive speech. 118 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 5: It was him taking it to Donald Trump, defending the 119 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 5: turf he's created for himself and his presidency and talking 120 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 5: to voters tonight. Much more so than Congress, and much 121 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 5: more so, frankly, than the foreign policy aspects of this. 122 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 5: It was a domestic speech meant for the campaign. 123 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: Well, and Rick, as you talk about the idea that 124 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: he was referencing his predecessor without directly naming him, he 125 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: also said at one point in the speech that America 126 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 2: cannot go back. I'm here tonight to show the way forward. 127 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,679 Speaker 2: And he went on at the end of the speech 128 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: with a kind of laundry list of the way that 129 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 2: he envisions the future. And I do believe we hear 130 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: Joe Matthew perhaps greeting a senator as they emerge from 131 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: the chamber and will bring you that conversation shortly. But 132 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: when he talks about the way forward, something else he 133 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 2: mentioned Rick was a unity agenda. Is that what this 134 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: campaign is now going to be about? What is a 135 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: unity agenda? 136 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 137 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 5: I would say it was surprising to me because it 138 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 5: was stuck literally at the end of the speech, right 139 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 5: as he was wrapping things up, he sort of sprung 140 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 5: the unity agenda. He talked about bringing people home from 141 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 5: conflicts around the world and taking care of them. 142 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: He talked about AI. 143 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 5: It didn't seem to have this sort of cohesiveness that 144 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 5: the rest of the speech did. 145 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: And frankly, I didn't take the speech as a unity speech. 146 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 5: He wasn't asking Congress to sort of get together and 147 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 5: work things out. He was advocating for his views and 148 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 5: he actually went after Republicans in the House a number 149 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 5: of times when they rejected conservative plans like the immigration 150 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 5: bill that came out of the Senate. So I think 151 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 5: it must have been an afterthought or something that they 152 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 5: tacked on to the end of the speech to try 153 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 5: and keep a positive tone to the finish, But to 154 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 5: be honest with you, I didn't really see how it 155 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 5: fit into the speech. 156 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: All right, and we want to go now back to 157 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: Joe in Statuary Hall, where he is joined by Senator 158 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: Dick Durbin the Senate majority with Joe. 159 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Thanks Cayley, Senator, it's great to see you and 160 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: welcome back to Bloomberg. On this State of the Union night. 161 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how you managed to get out of 162 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: the chamber there. The energy seemed high. We were promised 163 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: a high energy Joe Biden late at night. Did he 164 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: pull that through for those who were in the room. 165 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 6: Absolutely, the home run strong ideas, strong presentation. But to 166 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 6: rest this notion is somehow an elderly man you can't 167 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 6: handle the job. He showed real strength to ideas that 168 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 6: are important for America's future. 169 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting order in topics. We started on Ukraine. We 170 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: heard about the economy, a lot of other issues before 171 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: we ever got to the border. Senator, that seems to 172 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: be the issue that lit up the room. It certainly 173 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: has been driving the debate here with the President's supplemental 174 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: emergency request. Did he make any headway there, you're seeing 175 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: half the room up, half the room down, and it 176 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: really underscores the division. 177 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 6: Two out of three Americans know what's going on there. 178 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 6: As a bipartisan bill proposed in the Senate, which the 179 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 6: President supported, James Langford of Oklahoma, a Republican senator, was 180 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 6: the lead negotiator. We were ready to move forward or 181 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 6: on a bipartisan solution. Guess what happened. Donald Trump said, stop, 182 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 6: we don't want to give Joe Biden a victory. Blame 183 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 6: it on me, he said, oh, I am, Blame it 184 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 6: on him. He stopped any progress on a bipartisan solution. 185 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 6: The President tonight said, stop giving your speeches on the 186 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 6: Republican side about the border. Do something. Join me in 187 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 6: passing the spill. 188 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: You're the majority whip, and you blame Donald Trump for 189 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: what happened. 190 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 6: I certainly do, he said. He said exactly that, I'm 191 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 6: quoting him. Place the blame on me. He's the one 192 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 6: who stopped the negotiation, stopped any effort for bipartisanship. So 193 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 6: let's ignore him for a minute and solve the problem 194 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 6: on a bipartisan basis. 195 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: Well, indeed, is the majority whip. You have a sense 196 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: of the votes. I wonder if we're going to see 197 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: a vote in the Senate, maybe even tonight, Senator on 198 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: this stop gap of budget plan that passed the minibus, 199 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: if we can call it that that passed the House. 200 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: Do you have work left tonight or is that tomorrow? 201 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 6: Tomorrow? 202 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: Will it pass? 203 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 6: I think it will. I think the strong bipartisan support 204 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 6: in the House is an indication of what's going to 205 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 6: happen in the Senate. 206 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: This is the beginning of the general election, as many 207 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: have called it. This is going to be Joe Biden 208 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: versus Donald Trump. Americans need to start getting their minds 209 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: around that. 210 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 6: Yes, they should, and it's important that they do, because 211 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 6: this is a clear choice between Biden and Trump. We've 212 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 6: seen this match before, but we understand the gravity of it. 213 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 6: After January sixth insurrection mob, I mean, the violence that 214 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 6: President Trump initiated against this very building and the people 215 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 6: who work in it should not be easily forgotten. 216 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: Senator Dick Durbin, thank you for spending time with us 217 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: tonight on Bloomberg. It's good to see you. On the 218 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: State of the Union evening, Kaylee, I'll send it back 219 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: to you in the Bureau. 220 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: Joe, thank you very much. Of course, as we considered 221 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: the Senate moving forward on funding the government, there do 222 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: remain many open questions that Congress still have to deal with, 223 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: many of which the President spoke about this evening, not 224 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 2: just including the bipartisan border measure that he was encouraging 225 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: to be revived, if you will, after it was very 226 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: quickly killed shortly after the announcement, but also on the 227 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: issue of Ukraine. He touched a well on Israel, remembering 228 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: that funding for these two allies are wrapped together in 229 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: a supplemental National security package that has indeed passed the 230 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: Senate and Genie leading up to this speech, especially in 231 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 2: light of the fact that we were just talking about 232 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: the unity agenda, if you will, there's the question of 233 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: unity between the different parties. Sure, there's also the question 234 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: of unity within the party and within the Democratic Party. 235 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: The issue of Israel is perhaps one of the more 236 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 2: divisive ones. How do you think the President handled that tonight? 237 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: Did he do a good job of bridging the gap 238 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: between or bridging the divide if you will, from being 239 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: supportive of Israel but also trying to be supportive of 240 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: Palestinian life in Gaza. 241 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's in a really tough position. He 242 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: is getting a lot of pushback from his own party. 243 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 3: As you mentioned, Kaylee. We even saw two members in 244 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 3: the House tonight hold up a sign to Democrats saying 245 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: cease fire now. So he is getting that pushback. We 246 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: saw it on Super Tuesday with the number of un 247 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 3: committed in places like Minnesota. So the President knows he's 248 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: walking this line. As he described himself in this speech, 249 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 3: he has been one of the closest friends of Israel 250 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 3: for most of his career, but at this point he 251 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: is trying to do both support Israel in their fight 252 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 3: against Thomas and also make the case that they have 253 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: to be cognizant of the impact they are having on 254 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 3: innocent men, women, and children in Palestine. He took the 255 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: number thirty thousand dead according to the Health Ministry over there. 256 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: That's been conflicting a lot of people, and he said, 257 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 3: we are going to take steps to do better. I 258 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: don't know how it's going to play on the Democratic left. 259 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: This is an issue of real concern also to young people, 260 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 3: not just Arab Americans. 261 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: Well, and Genie, as you mentioned, we saw that uncommitted 262 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: vote showing up in Minnesota. We also sought showing up 263 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: in Michigan first. And on that note, we are joined 264 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: now by a Congresswoman from Michigan, Representative Haley steven standing 265 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: by with Joe Joe. 266 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kaylie, we are here with Haley Stevens, who is 267 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: no stranger to this network and Congresswoman, it's great to 268 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: see you as a Democrat from Michigan supporting Joe Biden tonight. 269 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on his closing remarks about Israel? 270 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: He called for a two state solution coming off of 271 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: the uncommitted movement we've seen in your state in Minnesota 272 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: and others on Super Tuesday. Did he say enough? 273 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:30,239 Speaker 7: He absolutely said the right things on Israel tonight. And personally, 274 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 7: I'm here with liznov Tally, who is the great aunt 275 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 7: of four year old Abigail, who was taken hostage for 276 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 7: fifty days when she was three years old. She lost 277 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 7: both of her parents. There are so many other hostage 278 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 7: families in the room here tonight. And as the task 279 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 7: force co chair alongside Republican French Hill for American Hostages, 280 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 7: that was one of the most sobering pieces of his 281 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 7: really resound and comprehensive speech. And it was a speech 282 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 7: of vision, and it was a speech of setting goals, 283 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 7: and what he said about getting to a two state 284 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 7: solution is still going to be the goal. There is 285 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 7: lots of pain, there's lots that we're navigating. A terrorist 286 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 7: operation in Gaza known as Hamas has not served its 287 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 7: people well, and we need to find peace and that 288 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 7: will come when Hamas surrenders. 289 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: You disappointed he was not able to announce the ceasefire 290 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: ar tonight. That was a hope of the administration. 291 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 7: Well, I know he's worked so hard. He's working with 292 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 7: Saudi Arabia, he's working alongside Israel. Certainly they presented it 293 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 7: a deal, it was rejected by Hamas. 294 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 2: We need answers. 295 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 7: We need these remaining hostages over one hundred, one hundred 296 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 7: and fifty three days there to come home. That was 297 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 7: an attack on humanity. And we also need to see 298 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 7: aid delivered to Palestinians, which the President made a point of. 299 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 7: We know that Hamas is preventing aid from coming in. 300 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 7: We know that where this conflict is as well, is 301 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 7: preventing aid for innocent Palestinians, mothers and children. And so 302 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 7: that's why he said we're setting up a special envoy 303 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 7: in the sea to make sure that aid gets delivered 304 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 7: with no American troops certainly on the ground of Gaza 305 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 7: were of. 306 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: Course, waiting for the Republican response to the president's address. 307 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: Before we wrap up this evening, Sean Fain from the 308 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: UAW was with the first Lady tonight called out by 309 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. We've talked about this before, Congresswoman. The rank 310 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: and file in this Union, in many cases are voting 311 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. What's the message that they heard tonight 312 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: from this president or that you hope they heard. 313 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 7: Well, certainly he delivered a very strong and resounding commitment 314 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 7: to American manufacturing, to solving supply chain issues, to investing 315 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 7: in education and skills training. But here's the thing, Joe 316 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 7: Biden's coming to Michigan next week. 317 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: He's going to be digging deep. 318 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 7: He's going to be making sure that these union members 319 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 7: know who he is, that he's the tough guy in 320 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 7: the room, and he's also the honest guy in the 321 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 7: room that has a commitment to protecting freedoms, to standing 322 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 7: up for creation and making sure that our middle class 323 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 7: is at the table. Why we do it, and that's 324 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 7: why Sean Pain was here tonight. I was so thrilled 325 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 7: to see him get a shout out. Can't wait to 326 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 7: have the president back in Michigan. 327 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: Well, come talk to us again when you get back 328 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: to Michigan. Congresswoman, it's great to see you. Hetley Stevens, 329 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: the Democrat from Michigan with us as part of our 330 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: special coverage here. Kayley, this is the message that starts now, 331 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: Rick and Genie, we're talking about this not just members 332 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: of the cabinet, but the president's Democratic allies fan out 333 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: across the country to deliver this message starting tomorrow. 334 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely, as we are now, for all intents and purposes, 335 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: in the general election in President Biden is very likely 336 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: to be up against former President Donald Trump eight months 337 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: from now on the ballot in November. And on that point, 338 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: we did have reaction to the former president during the 339 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: course of the State of the Union speech, and Donald 340 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: Trump points out Rick, it took him over twenty minutes 341 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: to get to immigration and then, in Trump's words, said 342 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: nothing about it. Did he say enough about this subject 343 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: this evening as the former president right, Well, we. 344 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 5: Were wondering if anybody was going to sleep through the speech, 345 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 5: and it's pretty clear maybe President Trump did. I think 346 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 5: that the piece on immigration was very interesting, and I 347 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 5: thought one of the most engaging parts because it was 348 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 5: where he actually took up a discussion directly with Marjorie 349 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 5: Taylor Green Yes and engage with her. And it was 350 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 5: an ad lib portion of the speech, and she was 351 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 5: pushing in a very aggressive way for him to say 352 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 5: Lake and Riley's name, right, say the name. The pen 353 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 5: that he had taken from her as he came into 354 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 5: the hall was next to his dais, and he picked 355 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 5: it up and held it up and he said the name. 356 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: And he did something that I think. 357 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 5: Is going to create a little bit of a backlash. 358 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 5: So he may have said a lot more than Donald 359 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 5: Trump thought he did, and that was he referred to 360 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 5: illegals and that was a name, that was a term 361 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 5: that he hasn't really used in reference to migrants coming 362 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 5: across the border. And we already see across the internet 363 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 5: some of the more progressive groups within his coalition basically 364 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 5: pushing back over this portion of the speech. So what's 365 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 5: interesting is Donald Trump and the progressives in the Democratic 366 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 5: wing seemed to have something in common, which is the 367 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 5: President sounded more conservative by defending the bill in the 368 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 5: Senate that didn't get a hearing in the House, and 369 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 5: that was something that always ruffled the feathers of the 370 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 5: Democrats in the House too. So I think that's going 371 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 5: to be one of the things we're talking about for 372 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 5: days to come, is this sort of very aggressive approach 373 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 5: he took on immigration in this speech. 374 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm Joe Matthew in Statutory Hall in the House of Representatives, 375 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: having just heard from the President and Senator Brittler, joined 376 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: now by Congressman Brian Style, the Republican from Wisconsin, was 377 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: in the room, a member of the Financial Services Committee 378 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: here in the House and chair of the Admin Committee. 379 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: Congressman Style, it's great to see you. Where to begin 380 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: after a response like that. You were in the room 381 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: for Joe Biden's address. Did he speak to you as 382 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: a Republican lawmaker when he talked about his unity agenda? 383 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 4: I think the President really missed the opportunity to speak 384 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 4: with emotion, as Senator Britch just did about two of 385 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 4: the most important issues of the day, the way that 386 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: illegal immigration is impacting American families across the country and 387 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 4: the way that inflation cumulatively seventeen percent is impacting families' 388 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 4: ability to afford the things that they need. I think 389 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 4: his comments on the economic policies are pretty disingenuous at times, 390 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 4: commenting about the size of a Snickers bar or the 391 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 4: amount of chips in a bag, rather than talking about 392 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 4: the way that things being seventeen percent more expensive than 393 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 4: when he took office are impacting families who are struggling 394 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 4: to get by. 395 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: You know, we talk about inflation a lot when you're 396 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: on with US. Congressman J. Powell testified the last two 397 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: days on Capitol Hill, and he seemed to be pretty 398 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: optimistic about the fight against inflation, to the point where 399 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: we're talking about interest rate cuts at some point this year. 400 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: Would that not be a sign of success in that fight? 401 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 4: Inflation is coming down, but the cumulative impact on families 402 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 4: is still quite real. You come to a grocery store 403 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 4: in Wisconsin and the checkout counter with me, and you'll 404 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 4: hear time and again that families are struggling to be 405 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 4: able to afford the things that they need. We've made 406 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: progress on the fight against inflation, but we're still dealing 407 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 4: with the fact that this administration spent trillions of dollars 408 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 4: after the end of the pandemic. 409 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: Will you be on the trail in this campaign to 410 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: help Donald Trump deliver his message. 411 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 4: Wisconsin's going to be front and center in the contrast 412 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 4: and policy between President Biden and President Trump. Couldn't be 413 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 4: more clear. The President doubled down on his policies of 414 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 4: keeping the US Mexico border unsecure and refusing to address 415 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 4: the fact that inflation is claboring families across the country. 416 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: Congressman Bryan's style Republican from Wisconsin. We thank you for 417 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: the insights, Kayley. That's just a sense of the Republican 418 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: response here in the room to what we heard from 419 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: the president tonight and that speech that lasted over an hour. 420 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: His big opportunity between now and the convention. 421 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and we want to get final thoughts now with 422 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: our political panel, Rick Davis and Jeanie Schanzano, who are 423 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: back with me here in Washington. Rick, just quickly, does 424 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 2: President Biden leave tonight in a better position than he 425 00:20:58,800 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 2: entered it? 426 00:20:59,359 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 427 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 5: Absolutely so. He was able to start the campaign with 428 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 5: a full annunciation of his priorities for the general election. 429 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 5: It's democracy, abortion rights, the economy, and infrastructure. He's ready 430 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 5: to take it to Donald Trump. Katie Brik gave the 431 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 5: response that's the Donald Trump campaign. 432 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: Genie, your thoughts, Yeah, I think performance wise, Joe Biden 433 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 3: did everything he needed to do. Republicans who were hoping 434 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 3: that he makes an error have to be disappointed because 435 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 3: he did not, and Democrats seem to be widely enthusiastic. 436 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 3: He is the Joe Biden they wanted to see. He 437 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 3: was interacting with members, he was open, he was energetic. 438 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 3: So a good performance night for Joe Biden. 439 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: All Right, Jeanie Schanzano and Rick Davis, thank you so 440 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: much for being with us on the State of the 441 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: Union evening, and thank you to all of you listening 442 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: on radio and watching on television for joining us for 443 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 2: this special coverage of the State of the Union Address 444 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 2: and the Republican response on Bloomberg TV and Radio four. 445 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: Joe Matthew at Capitol Hill. I'm Kaylee Wines in Washington. 446 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: This is mem