1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Countdown. We're setting you up for 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: the sports weekend and covering all the action from the 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: stadiums to the arenas. This is Fox Sports Countdown, brought 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: to you by bet MG, the sports book Born in 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: Vegas YouTube. The Countdown starts nine live from the Fox 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: Sports Radio studios. Here's Brian no, Rich Hornberger and Jared Smith. 7 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: Oh, it's the two second best words in sports. 8 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: We will get to that here momentarily. Very fired up 9 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 3: for that. Be sure to check out the Fox. 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: Sports Radio YouTube channel. 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 3: Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 3: a whole bunch of video highlights from our shows. Be 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: sure to subscribe to you always have instant access to 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: Good morning fellas, Rich, Jared Hope. Everything is great. How 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: about this the two second best words in sports? 17 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 3: Which, of course game seven? We get a game seven today, 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 3: we get a game seven tomorrow. In the NBA, the 19 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: two best words in sports, of course are super Bowl. 20 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: Right, we all know that. I don't know what we've 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 2: talked about this before. Get them, Rich, Yeah, get them now. 22 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 4: This is this is absolutely accurate. I wont percent agree 23 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 4: with Brian though, I mean when when you have these series. 24 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 5: I love I love Game sevens, don't get me wrong, 25 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 5: And I think Brian is saying the same thing. It's 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 5: the second best. That means it's still really really fun. 27 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: It's just not as good as the Super Bowl, you know, 28 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 3: like Lebron has had a great career, awesome, legendary second best, 29 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 3: second best like that. 30 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: Not quite Jordan getting hot and spicy early today, But seven, Lebron, 31 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: you can do a whole lot worse than Lebron's legendary career. Jared, right, 32 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: like Game seven that pet still very high on the list. Yeah, well, 33 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I think the cliche of it makes me 34 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: on your side here, right, because I'm not. I think 35 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: the cliche kind of wears out how awesome Game sevens are. 36 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: Some of them could be pretty awful. But also, to 37 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 2: be fair, that super Bowl we had a few months 38 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: ago wasn't exactly a nail bier. 39 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 6: That was rare though, that was rare show. 40 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: It's rare instance. It wasn't great. 41 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 6: But we do have a Game seven to look forward to. 42 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 3: Today, we'll get to Clippers at the Nuggets, and then 43 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: at Game seven tomorrow we'll have the Warriors on the 44 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 3: road in a Game seven against the Young Bucks the 45 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 3: Houston Rockets, and we'll start there before we get to 46 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 3: seton Game seven or sevens. Let's get back to Game 47 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: six last night and the Warriors. I don't know who 48 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 3: kidnapped the Warriors is like you just mentioned the Super Bowl, Jared, 49 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: I don't know who kidnapped the Chiefs in the first half. 50 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: And especially Mahomes. 51 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 3: I don't know who replaced Mahomes with like Nayan Piterman 52 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: in the first half of the Super Bowl. 53 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 6: But it was the same thing with the Warriors last night. 54 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,839 Speaker 3: The Warriors did not look like themselves at all. Give 55 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: the Rockets all the credit, they looked fantastic, but that 56 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 3: was a spot where the Rockets, they're wet, five and 57 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: a half point underdogs, were expecting them to Most people 58 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: are expecting them to at least lose. Maybe the Warriors 59 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: don't cover the spread. The Warriors got waxed, So I 60 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 3: think they got kidnapped last night and replaced with I 61 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: don't know, like the Charlotte Hornets or something like that. 62 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 2: They didn't look like themselves at all. 63 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 5: No, I completely agree the Warriors, who typically looked like 64 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 5: the steadier, tougher, smarter team in the postseason with all 65 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 5: that experience they have, they're now facing elimination. 66 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 4: Because it's just it's. 67 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 5: Like the two teams flip flopped, like the Rockets were 68 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 5: the team that looked steadier and smarter and more experienced 69 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 5: than Fred Van Fleet had an awesome three quarters of play. 70 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 5: I think he played some heady basketball and obviously. 71 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: Sort of showed the path for the rest of this group. 72 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 5: And what a job by the Rockets getting out of 73 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 5: their own way and allowing the water or the Warriors 74 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 5: to kind of deconstruct in the final quarter. Yeah, it's 75 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 5: it's interesting when you see a team that should be 76 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 5: better in a situation struggle because oftentimes you don't, you know, 77 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 5: especially in a seven game series, like especially when you 78 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 5: know the better team is supposed to bear out and 79 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 5: and maybe that's not what's happening, or maybe that is 80 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 5: what's happening, and it's just the Rockets time. They're certainly younger, 81 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 5: but what they just stared down facing elimination on the 82 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 5: road at the Chase Center, and we know how that 83 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 5: place can be, especially when the Warriors are in the 84 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 5: postseason and do what they did in Game six. 85 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 4: Anything's possible in game seven. 86 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: So you know what this remind of. This very much 87 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: reminds me of two years ago when the Warriors played 88 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: the Kings, and the Kings were just this upstart, like 89 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 2: the beam, right. They started the series two to zero, 90 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: and then Golden State came back and won three straight. 91 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: They went into Sacramento Game five and won, and then 92 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: they went back to Game six and everyone thought the 93 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 2: Warriors were going to close out the series at home. 94 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: In Game six, they got blown out. They lost by twenty. 95 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: Then they went back in Game seven on the road 96 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: in Sacramento, young team won by twenty. Because it just 97 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: I think the game seven vibes sometimes throws off certain teams, 98 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: like Game six backs against the wall, nothing to lose, 99 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 2: nothing to game, leave it all out there on the court. 100 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: Now you're in a Game seven, you can actually win 101 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: the series. We call this the sphincter tightening, right, The 102 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: sphincter tightens up just a little bit when you're like, wow, 103 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: we could actually win this series, and then you fall short, 104 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: Like I would not be shocked if the Warriors went 105 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: into Houston and blew the doors off of them tomorrow night. 106 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: I like how you laid that out. I really do and. 107 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 3: I think I've said this before on the show, but 108 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 3: I'll say it again. It reminds me of my dad 109 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: what you just laid out there, Jared, because there were 110 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 3: times where I was growing up and you might have 111 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 3: felt like this with your dad every now and then, 112 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 3: but you would clash, and sometimes I would think. 113 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,679 Speaker 2: You know, I think I could kick my dad's ass, 114 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: you know, I really do. 115 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 6: I think I'm stronger than him right now. 116 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 3: And then a thought came into my head where I'm like, 117 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,559 Speaker 3: he has this setting, you know, as a man who's 118 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: been through a lot of life experiences, right like the 119 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 3: world makes you tougher, and he has a setting that 120 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: he's programmed with something I call oh hell no, right, 121 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: he's programmed with that, and if we blows, he would 122 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: have this setting of like, oh, hell no, my son 123 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 3: who was. 124 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: Going got got goo goo? When I'm like trying to 125 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: put food on the table. No, hell no, he's not 126 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: beating me up. 127 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 6: Right like. 128 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,559 Speaker 3: And so it's a little bit like that, Jared, where 129 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: you think about the Warriors last night to start the 130 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: fourth quarter they lost. 131 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 6: They missed thirteen shots in a row. 132 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: They missed thirteen straight shots in a closeout game. 133 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 6: And what you explained. 134 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: It can work the other way where the Warriors they 135 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: let an opportunity slip away and now all of a 136 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: sudden it's like, okay, Game seven, backs against the wall, 137 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: do or die? Bring it on, you know, and getting 138 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: points on top of that. Yeah, it's just funny, right, 139 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: Like sometimes we have amnesia during a series where the 140 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 3: Warriors were huge favorites, I think, too huge at the 141 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: beginning to win this series, and now they're dogs on 142 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: the road in game seven. So I don't think you 143 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: can completely forget about where we started and where the 144 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: expectations were for the war years before you saw last 145 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: night and them get kicked around. 146 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 5: I agree with that because you also have to remember 147 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 5: they've got a little bit of the secret sauce they 148 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 5: have obviously Draymond, but two particular players who step up 149 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 5: in a major way in Game sevens Curry. I'll give 150 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 5: you the data. Curry has played in five game sevens. 151 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 5: He's averaged thirty two point six point seven assists, six 152 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 5: and a half rebounds, and oh his most recent Game seven, 153 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 5: it was a blistering fifty piece on the Kings in Sacramento. 154 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: Yep. 155 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 5: So you go from him to Butler, who in his 156 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 5: four appearances has hoisted twenty two points four rebounds on average. 157 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 5: That doesn't begin to tell the impact. Because Butler terrorized 158 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 5: the Celtics both times that he faced them in Game 159 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 5: sevens thirty one points, eight rebounds and almost sent the 160 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 5: Celtics home twice. He missed the jumper in the final 161 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 5: seconds of one game against the Celtics in a Game 162 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 5: seven matchup that obviously allowed them to survive. But my 163 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 5: point being, when you have two guys with an incredible 164 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 5: abundance of Game seven experience, not just postseas in experience, 165 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 5: but game seven experience, you're looking at a real challenge 166 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 5: even when you're hosting them. Because home court advantage only 167 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 5: lasts for a quarter. Sometimes, if you have a team 168 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 5: that's absolutely shelling the home team, it doesn't really matter 169 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 5: after that. And how many of those Game sevens between 170 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 5: Butler and Curry have been on the road, I can't 171 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 5: tell you that. I don't have that stat, but I 172 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 5: know some of them, and and that's an important stat. 173 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 4: Experience matters. It does in the postseason. 174 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 2: Yes, you're telling me, I get Jimmy Butler and Steph 175 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: Curry and I get three points huh, well, I mean, 176 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: where do I sign up for that in a Game seven? 177 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: I think you got to give the Rockets a lot 178 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: of credit Van Fleet especially, you know, the the veteran 179 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 2: really on this on this Rockets team that has been there, 180 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: done that really impressive stuff from him. I think Green's 181 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: been a little bit underwhelming, but sang Gooons and June 182 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 2: we've been, you know, trying to figure out how pronounce 183 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: the name properly. He's been a rock star. I had 184 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 2: an alternate assist prop on him the other night that 185 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: was like he hit it in the first half, like 186 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 2: he had like nine assists in the game. He almost 187 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: had a triple double and he's not a triple double guy. 188 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 2: So you definitely give a lot of credit to this 189 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: Rockets team. I know Dylan Brooks has kind of been 190 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: there before as well, So those are the two real 191 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: veterans on this team. But the young guys have stepped 192 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: up nicely. I need to see more from Green though. 193 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: But on the on the Warriors side, like let's just 194 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 2: talk about the number for a minute, right, Like they 195 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: were a four point dog on the road in Game five. 196 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: Now it's three, all right, what's changed between Game five? 197 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 2: And Game seven not a whole lot, you know. And 198 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: I know that the Rockets look hot right now. They've 199 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: scored one thirty one, one fifteen on the road last night, 200 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 2: like they look good. But they also had eighty five 201 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: points at home in Game one, so there certainly is 202 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: the potential for this thing to flip the other way. 203 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 2: And then you talk about the total, you know, I 204 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 2: know you're gonna be all over. This totals around two hundred. 205 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 2: This is by far the lowest total of the series. 206 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: The Game one total was two thirteen. Again, what's changed 207 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: in two weeks that this total has now dropped thirteen points. 208 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 2: I think the game seven vibes sometimes overwhelm the market, 209 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: where the total gets suppressed too much because it's a 210 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: Game seven, and there's actually value on the over. So 211 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: I think underdog and over for both games tonight Clippers Nuggets, tomorrow, 212 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 2: Warriors Rockets. That's kind of what I'm vibing here. Interesting. 213 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: I like that the little uh, what would you say 214 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 3: under over underdogs? 215 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, underdogs and over totals. 216 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 3: And by the way, I know you're scoring at home. 217 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 3: You mentioned two thirteen, which we all know is. 218 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: A Selayer song right there, So It's a perfect way 219 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: to bookend this. This is beautiful, you know, ending to 220 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: this segment, I think you just bo Benzon, our trusted producer. 221 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: You just send that off to the Marconi people, you know. 222 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: Right anyway, we're shoot over. 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Okay, so, Greg Popovich, 252 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 3: he will no longer be the head coach of the 253 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 3: San Antonio Spurs. Pop is stepping down from that role. 254 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: He'll transition to be the full time team president. So 255 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: no longer head coach, he'll be team president. He has 256 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: had some health issues. He had a minor stroke back 257 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 3: in November, and he decided the grind of coaching was 258 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: too much to continue, which you can certainly appreciate right there, 259 00:13:58,840 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 3: and what a. 260 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 6: Run though, here's my thing. 261 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 3: The first question is this, what do you think Pop's 262 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: most impressive accomplishment is? And when you read off like 263 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 3: the dinner menu, it's like Wow, this is what in 264 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 3: stellar dinner we're about to have right here, right Like, Okay, 265 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: twenty nine seasons with the Spurs, that's the most with 266 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 3: the single franchise, over fourteen hundred regular season wins. That's 267 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: the most all time. Five championships, that's tied for third 268 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: all time. He won Coach of the Year three times, 269 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: it's tied for the most all time. 270 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 6: Eighteen straight fifty win seasons. 271 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: The longest streak of all time, and then he led 272 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 3: the Spurs to twenty two straight playoff appearances. When I 273 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: rattle that off, what would you put at the top 274 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 3: of the list? What leads off the rest of the 275 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 3: accomplishments in your mind? 276 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 7: Rich? 277 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 4: Uh? Who? Man? 278 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 5: I want to say, consistency matters, especially when there's consistency 279 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 5: over a long period of time. Like one of the 280 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 5: most impressive things, for example, about Mike Tomlin with the 281 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 5: Pittsburgh Steelers is he's never had a losing. 282 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 4: Record over the course of his career. 283 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 5: Well, Popovich led the Spurs to a winning record in 284 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 5: each of his first twenty two full seasons. 285 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: Wow. 286 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 5: Like, to me, that's one of those streaks that I'm 287 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 5: not sure will ever see matched. It's just insane, and 288 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 5: the fact that he's been this good for this long 289 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 5: is the reason why the Spurs still want whatever that 290 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 5: magic is. 291 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 4: Within their building. 292 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 5: You know, when Danny ainstepped down in Boston, Brad Stevens 293 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 5: took that job, I think it was summer of twenty 294 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 5: twenty one, right after the postseason, and moved up the ladder, 295 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 5: and he's still part of the organization. 296 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 4: I think that's that's what the Spurs. 297 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 5: Are thinking along the same lines of is hey, we 298 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 5: don't want to lose the brain trust. We just want 299 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 5: to obviously allow him to put the car in neutral 300 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 5: a little bit and to get what he needs out 301 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 5: of life as he's getting much older. And also you 302 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 5: still benefit from his knowledge and his wisdom. 303 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: I agree. I think longevity would be the word I'll use. Actually, 304 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: I'll use a better word, bookends. And what do I 305 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: mean by that? So he won his first title in 306 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine and he won his last title in 307 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, So that's a fifteen year bookend. How many 308 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: coaches can say that they went a fifteen year gap 309 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: and won a title on each end of it. And 310 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: I know he's coached for significantly longer since then. But 311 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: I think it's like maybe one or two coaches like 312 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: Phil Jackson, right, like nineties with the Lakers or nineties 313 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: with the Bulls and then later on with the Lakers. 314 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: Even Red hourback Like I'm looking at Red Hourbacks numbers. Now, 315 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: he won all of his titles in a very short 316 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: time period, like all in like a ten year span. 317 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: So the bookends of being able to do it for 318 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: that long of a period of time at the top 319 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 2: of your field in a fifteen year window with the 320 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: same team, I think is the way I would sum 321 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 2: up his career best. 322 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I don't think there's a wrong answer, unless 323 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 3: you say, like his record against the Charlotte Hornets. 324 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 6: I don't know, so I guess there could be. 325 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the wrong answer. 326 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, if you're looking at you right, if you're 327 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 3: looking at all the top accomplishments. I hate to be simplistic, 328 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 3: but it's the five championships, sure, that's what it is. 329 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: Because listen, the longevity is great. You know, the twenty 330 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 3: two straight postseason appearances, that's great. The longevity in terms 331 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: of like what you pointed out Rich, the not having 332 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 3: a losing record for all those seasons in a row. 333 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 3: All of that is great, but if he doesn't have championships, 334 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: we're all collectively saying, yeah, but where are the rings? 335 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 336 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: Like the rings strengthen everything else, but without the rings, 337 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 3: everything else looks like, Okay, you did all this, but 338 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 3: you couldn't win it all. 339 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 6: So that right, So that's the way it goes. 340 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 3: You've got the ultimate success or else that's the thing 341 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 3: that's lacking on your resume. 342 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 6: Put it this way, if. 343 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin he's got one ring, but imagine if he 344 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 3: didn't have one ring with the Steelers and he's got 345 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 3: all these records, you know, over five hundred every single year, 346 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 3: we'd be like, that's great, but can you actually win 347 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: a ring. We've got this coach who's not as good 348 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 3: as you are, he's got ring. Where's your ring? 349 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 4: Right? 350 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,239 Speaker 3: Like, so you've got to have that championship success and 351 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 3: he had it five of them, And I like what 352 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 3: you said that the gap in between how long, Like 353 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 3: a lot of coaches don't last fifteen years in the NBA, 354 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: let alone win a title like in ninety nine and 355 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 3: then twenty fourteen. So I think it's the rings above 356 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 3: all else and all these other accomplishments are huge, and 357 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 3: other coaches to. 358 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 6: Be lucky to get there. 359 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 3: But think of a guy like Jerry Sloan who had 360 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 3: a great, great career with the Utah Jazz was there 361 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 3: forever and they have a ring, And we don't talk 362 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 3: about Jerry Sloan as one of the greats because he 363 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 3: didn't win a ring that we talk about Greg Popovich 364 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 3: being one of the greats, if not the greatest of 365 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 3: all time because of those rings. 366 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 5: I definitely don't disagree, and I think that you framed 367 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 5: it perfectly, that the things that Jared and I both 368 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 5: pointed out they're great. But Jared was really focusing on 369 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 5: two of his titles, and I was focusing on a 370 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 5: stretch of his career from the time when he was 371 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 5: a rookie coach until he was twenty two seasons in 372 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 5: where he didn't turn in a single losing record, which 373 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 5: is unbelievable. Yeah, but still without the championships, what are 374 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 5: you gonna say, you know, I mean, now, has it 375 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 5: been matched, Yeah, sure, but it puts him in a 376 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 5: rarefied air. Having five championships puts him in a rarefied 377 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 5: air that very few will ever touch, A very few 378 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 5: have ever done. And when you think about the type 379 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 5: of person it takes to manage personalities through decades, it 380 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 5: takes a lot of evolution, It takes. 381 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 4: A lot of personal growth. 382 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is an older man in twenty fourteen who's 383 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 5: still able to inspire and encourage players who are now 384 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 5: much much younger than he was when, you know, in 385 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 5: terms of the age difference, the age gap than in 386 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 5: the nineties winning championships, and that matters. Hey, you know 387 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 5: what when you're a kid, when you're you know, twenty one, 388 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 5: twenty two year old kid, and you're looking at a 389 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 5: thirty six year old that guy seems so old. 390 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 4: To you, but they're really not. 391 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 5: You know, from the coaches perspective, you're like, jeez, I 392 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 5: mean I used to be there like yesterday, Like I 393 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 5: was twenty one yesterday. When you're thirty six, you look 394 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 5: back at twenty one twenty two and you go, oh 395 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 5: my gosh, like I can't believe it's been fifteen years, 396 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 5: you know. 397 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 4: But then when you're when you're forty five. 398 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 5: When you're fifty five, and you're looking back at twenty 399 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 5: two years old. Some of these guys coming into the 400 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 5: League younger than that at that point in his career, 401 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 5: when it's twenty fourteen and Pop is cobbling together a 402 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 5: championship with Kawhi Leonard and some of the remaining pieces 403 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 5: left over from the Duncan era, You're like, man, can 404 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 5: I do this again? 405 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 4: And the truth is he found a way. Yes. 406 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 5: The answer was yes, he could do it again. And 407 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 5: that's really impressive to be able to grow and to 408 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 5: evolve and still find a way to connect with the 409 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 5: locker room after all those years. 410 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was doing some reading because a lot of 411 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 2: you know, obviously, you get a lot of like pieces 412 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: that come out about his life, his coaching career, and 413 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: like how he's kind of grown into the role that 414 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 2: he's in now. I read a really interesting article on 415 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 2: the Athletic that was posted very early this morning by 416 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 2: Rust and Dodd, and he taught me something about Pap 417 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: I didn't know. His first job was at a D 418 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 2: three program in southern California, and he went two and 419 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: twenty two in his first year, if five losing seasons 420 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: out of his first seven years, and then all of 421 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 2: a sudden, in his thirties, he took a sabbatical in 422 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 2: Lawrence Kansas and he spent a year shadowing at the 423 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 2: time Kansas coach Larry Brown, and that's kind of when 424 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: it all changed for him. It kind of clicked right, 425 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: Like he had a ton of failure, Like he failed miserably. 426 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: He was in D three, two and twenty two in 427 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: his first career, like in D three and failed miserably 428 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: as a coach, and then took a break, took a 429 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 2: sabbatical and recalibrated his approach, and then he came back 430 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: and then of course, you know, ascended from there. And 431 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: I think that's a great lesson I think, and I 432 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 2: use this in my dating life now today that I'm 433 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 2: kind of in like the second chapter of it. If 434 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: you haven't failed at dating at this age, like I'm 435 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 2: thirty nine, I usually date women in their thirties, Like, 436 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: if you haven't failed at it yet, I don't want 437 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: to talk to you because I don't want to be 438 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 2: your first failure. Everyone fails at something that they're trying 439 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 2: to accomplish in the long term at first. You can't 440 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: be successful at something unless you fail at it first. 441 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: The most successful people on the planet are just the 442 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 2: people that have failed the most and didn't quit that's 443 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 2: just the way success is. You're like very rarely do 444 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: you just wake up and you're just successful right out 445 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: of the gate. You need to overcome adversity. You need 446 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 2: to learn how hard something is to really understand the 447 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: struggle behind it. And that I didn't know that about Pop, 448 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: that he had such a failure early on in his career, 449 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: like a terrible failure, D three burnout and then came 450 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,959 Speaker 2: back and ascended to this greatness. It's a really interesting story. 451 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 6: No, it's a great note right there. 452 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 3: Draymond Green said something about Pop last night and he 453 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 3: was emotional. 454 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 6: He was almost moved to tears. 455 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 2: Like when I say, how would you describe Draymond Green. 456 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 6: I don't know that you would say, you know, big. 457 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: Teddy Bear, that Draymond Green like that at all. 458 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 3: But listen to what Draymond Green said about Pop and 459 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 3: it really speaks to you, like put the accomplishments to 460 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 3: the side and just talk about the. 461 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 6: Dude and connecting. 462 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 3: It's sort of what you were talking about, Rich is 463 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 3: connecting with players that are much younger than you and 464 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 3: you're able to do Like how what's one of the 465 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: main reasons he was able to do that? Here's Draymond 466 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 3: last night on his relationship with Pop. 467 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 8: It just appears as if he's like this mean old man, 468 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 8: and he is the complete opposite, like complete opposite, the 469 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 8: nicest person you ever want to be around. 470 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 4: He cares about people so much. 471 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 8: And I was lucky enough and honored to have the 472 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 8: opportunity to spend a summer with him and play for him. 473 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 8: I gave him my shoes from the gold medal game. 474 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 8: He wore them to the next first game, played them, 475 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 8: and every hug since there hasn't been so much to me, 476 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 8: just to go over to the sideline and hug him, 477 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 8: and to see him leave this game from the sideline. 478 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 8: Obviously they say he'll be the president, but that does 479 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 8: nothing for me, but to not you know, it's sucked 480 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 8: playing against the Spurs this year and look over and 481 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 8: not see him there, and to know that I'll never 482 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 8: get the opportunity again. I just wish I had one 483 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 8: last time to go hug him on the sideline. 484 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 4: Wow. 485 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 3: Right, that's again, that's Draymond Green. It's fiery, some people say, 486 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 3: as crazy as it gets, and he's like, I freaking 487 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 3: love this guy. You can't feel that way about someone 488 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 3: who's just only about themselves. And that's what you hear 489 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 3: about Pop time and time and time again. It's these dinners, 490 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 3: these famous dinners where he's like, all right, you know, 491 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 3: let's go eat and the wine is. 492 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: Flowing, and he was just like that. 493 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 3: And it's funny because you get these sideline interviews that 494 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 3: he hated doing. He detested doing those in game interviews, 495 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 3: and you might think, like. 496 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 2: Man, this guy is like the he is so crotchety. 497 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: But there was that other side, like you're not gonna 498 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 3: have players warm up to you if you're just gruff 499 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 3: with them all the time. 500 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 6: And so he absolutely had that other setting. 501 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 3: So hey, what a career on the sideline for Pop 502 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 3: is one of the best, if not the best. And 503 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: I think that's the other thing is when you start 504 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 3: seeing the coaches last night, like Emi Udoka, Steve Kerr, 505 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 3: like these guys like the tree you know we always 506 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: talk about, like the Bill Walsh coaching tree and some 507 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 3: of the best head coaches ever, like the Greg Popovich 508 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 3: coaching tree. That's part of his legacy. Also, it's not 509 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 3: just what he did, it's what he helped others come about 510 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 3: and what they're doing as well. So man, it goes 511 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 3: even deeper than just his accomplishments and what he did 512 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 3: over the course of his time. 513 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, and what Draymond's words spoke to is thoughtfulness. And 514 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 5: I'm always baffled when I'm around a really thoughtful person. 515 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 5: I know in my life I've become more thoughtful. I've 516 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 5: been around great examples, my wife being one of them. 517 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 5: She's taught me a lot about empathy and how to 518 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 5: see things through other people's perspectives. And I think that's 519 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 5: what it takes to be an excellent head coach and 520 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 5: one who can sort of span those decades that he's coached. 521 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 5: It's being able to empathize with somebody even though some 522 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 5: of their pursuits and some of their emotional toil seems juvenile. 523 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 4: And it seems it seems so. 524 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 5: Fleeting because you have this perspective of being an aged, 525 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 5: mature person in this world and ah, you know, who 526 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 5: cares if she broke up with your kid? 527 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 4: You know, get back on the horse. 528 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 5: There's plenty of fision to see whatever people usually say 529 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 5: to try to, you know, sort of flick off the 530 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 5: importance of something that is absolutely wrecking somebody. Because the 531 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 5: worst thing that's ever happened to you is the worst 532 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 5: thing that's ever happened to you. 533 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 4: You know, you don't have. 534 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 5: The perspective of a seventy year old man on the 535 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 5: sidelines of your basketball team telling you, Hey, whatever's happening 536 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 5: in your personal life, you've got to put it aside 537 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 5: and focus on the most important thing in the world 538 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 5: right now. That's that's going to echo into your into 539 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 5: your your life and your your career. And you know, 540 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 5: if we win this championship, nobody wants to hear that 541 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 5: when their heart's been broken, or nobody wants to hear 542 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 5: that when a parent's been you know, when something's happened 543 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 5: in your personal life that's disastrous to you, right you know. 544 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 5: And and that's what a coach has to be sometimes 545 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 5: is a part time psychologist. And that's what Draymond Green 546 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 5: is alluding to there. He coached him for a summer. Draymond, 547 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 5: out of gratefulness, gives him a pair of sneakers, pair 548 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 5: of basketball shoes. Months and months and months later, when 549 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 5: the Spurs faced the Warriors, pops wearing those shoes, he 550 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 5: didn't even talk about whether or not they're the same size. 551 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 5: You know what I mean, like, that's just a keepsake, 552 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 5: that's just a gift, that's something you put up on 553 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 5: your shelf in your office. 554 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 4: For Greg Popovich. 555 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 5: Instead, he popped them on his feet, and whether they 556 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 5: were three eight six sizes too big, he wore them 557 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 5: on the sideline the next time the Warriors were in town, 558 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 5: just to show back to Draymond Man, I value you too. 559 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,479 Speaker 5: I'm grateful for you too. Look at the shoes, the 560 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 5: ones you gifted me. I'm wearing them, thanks Draymond. Like 561 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 5: those are the thoughtful that those are the examples of 562 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 5: thoughtfulness that not only a great man, but a great 563 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 5: coach embodies. And it is the reason why he was 564 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 5: able to have success and connect with locker rooms for 565 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 5: that entire span. It is just a small example, I 566 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 5: promise you there were many many examples, And Brian, you 567 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 5: brought up, you know, the dinner table conver stations that 568 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 5: he would have these famous dinners that he would have 569 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 5: with players and coaches and the like, where you know, 570 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 5: people walked away feeling like they a whole new world 571 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 5: was open to them because he's he's so wise. Greg 572 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 5: Popovich will be missed by basketball being on the sideline 573 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 5: hopefully his impact is still felt as a front office 574 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 5: member of the San Antonio Spurs. 575 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: I think it will be. I think that's like my 576 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: guess is and I joked, I did a show yesterday. 577 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: This is like we needed like an episode of secession 578 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: about you know how this plan probably has been concocted 579 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: over the last couple of years because you know Pop's 580 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: health concerns and obviously you know Father times undefeated with 581 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. I'm sure there was some kind 582 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: of plan in place for a significant amount of time 583 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: when the inevitability happens that he was going to take 584 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: a step back. It kind of the vibes I'm getting 585 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: here today, And I never thought I was gonna make 586 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: this comparison, but let's make it. Are we are we 587 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: in the Ted Lasso vicinity here with Greg Popovich. I mean, 588 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,239 Speaker 2: don't if you guys are familiar with that show, but 589 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: like the whole vibe of that show is Ted doesn't care, 590 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: you know, wins or losses on the field or on 591 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 2: the pitch soccer. He's more about making these men better 592 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: people off the field, and you know, kind of giving 593 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: his life lessons and his positive affirmations to make them 594 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 2: better humans, and I know that. Obviously pop cares very 595 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: much about what happens on the court wins and losses. 596 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 2: Ted Lasso is a little bit of a sack Hire 597 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: in that sense, but there is a there is a 598 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 2: little bit of ted lasso Ian vibes with the Draymond story, 599 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: Like that's where That's what I get from it. 600 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 6: No, it makes sense, it does, you know? 601 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: You know, gosh these platforms, man, like if you if 602 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: you went all in, what it would cost you, like 603 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: Apple Plus. 604 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 6: I'm not an Apple Plus guy. 605 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 3: No, I mean, like, I mean, but it's so good. 606 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 3: I know, I know it is so good. 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Jared Smith, we start 645 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 3: with you with something you like. 646 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: Game seven, Baby, all right, so it's the NBA theme 647 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 2: again this week. I think we hit last week. I 648 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 2: actually forget. It was a very exciting weekend. But I 649 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 2: forget if we hit last week or not. But let's 650 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: go back to the NBA. Let's just say we did. Yeah, 651 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 2: let's just say we did. 652 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 4: We're on a winning streak. 653 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 2: Let's go for two this week. Game seven unders. That's 654 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: usually the vibe, right, And I understand what you're thinking. 655 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 2: Game seven. Things tighten up, fewer possessions. Those are all facts. 656 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 2: But in the first round over the last twenty years, 657 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 2: actually more overs than unders in game seven, sixteen and 658 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 2: fifteen since two thousand and two. And why well, the 659 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 2: market adjusts down and sometimes it adjusts too much. For example, 660 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 2: Clippers Nugget Game one of this series, the total was 661 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 2: two twenty five. That game wasn't played last year. That 662 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 2: game was played two weeks ago. And now we're seeing 663 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: in Game seven tonight two oh seven and a half. 664 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 2: So let's buy a point off of that, and let's 665 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: go two oh six and a half. And let's go 666 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 2: over with the Clippers and Nuggets. I think the Clippers 667 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 2: offense with James Harden found something in Game six, and 668 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 2: I think we're gonna see a little bit more offense 669 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 2: than the market is expecting. Numbers adjusted too much over 670 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 2: Clippers Nuggets Game seven tonight, All right, give. 671 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 5: Me Clippers plus three and a half. Uh look, I'll 672 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 5: give you three reasons. 673 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 4: You probably don't need them. 674 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 5: But star power between Kawhi Leonard and James Harden. Harden 675 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 5: at a big bounce back game in Game six. 676 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 4: Kawhi has been. 677 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 5: Playing consistently good over the course of this series against 678 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 5: the Nuggets. Defensive adjustments and lineup changes have helped the 679 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 5: Clippers exhaust the Nuggets a little bit. I think a 680 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 5: faster tempo and throwing fresher bodies at the Nuggets has 681 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 5: been a little bit of an issue for Denver to 682 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 5: keep up with, and a little bit of a momentum 683 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,439 Speaker 5: momentum and defensive shift that's occurred. The front court has 684 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 5: done a nice job against Jokis, Zubac and Jones Junior 685 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 5: have been causing him issues in the paint. If they 686 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 5: keep that up, I think at very least they could 687 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 5: keep it close. 688 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 4: If not win game seven, give me the Clippers plus three. 689 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 2: And a half. 690 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna. 691 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 2: Go with the Warriors. 692 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the Warriors plus two and a 693 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 3: half in Game seven. Gotta love the zig zag approach 694 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 3: in NBA playoff basketball. You know, the zigzag is basically 695 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 3: what happens the previous game, bet the other way the 696 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 3: next game. And there are a lot of spots where 697 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 3: you have just raked in the cash. And I think 698 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 3: this is a great, a premium zig zag spot where 699 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 3: last night we just saw the Rockets flex their muscles, 700 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 3: like these these young kids, these these you know, these 701 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 3: young guns over here right like, look at them push 702 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 3: around the. 703 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 6: Vets and yeah, that's all cool. 704 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 3: But Game seven, it's all on the line, and I 705 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 3: look at Steph Curry playoff Jimmy, They're gonna have to 706 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 3: ratchet up their defense. But say this, are you more are. 707 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 6: You put it this way? 708 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 4: Are you. 709 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 6: A bigger believer in? 710 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 3: Say Steph Curry in playoff Jimmy or in Shangoon and 711 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 3: Van v Leek, and both those guys have been fantastic. 712 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 3: But again, this is game seven. It's all on the line. 713 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 3: I would take the headliners of the Warriors quicker, and 714 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 3: then when you're starting to think about the others and 715 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 3: what I would coin the other others, like the you 716 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 3: got role players and then you have the even lesser 717 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 3: role players. 718 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 6: When you look. 719 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 3: Collectively, I could absolutely see the non headliners of the 720 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 3: Warriors out performing the Rockets, and so I think you're 721 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 3: gonna see a much different Golden State team in Game seven. 722 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 3: They let one slip through their fingers last night at home, 723 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 3: and I think they have put it this way. They 724 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 3: have a whole hell noe switch right, like, oh no, 725 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 3: we're not going out like this. I don't know that 726 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 3: the young gun Rockets quite have that switch chest yet 727 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 3: we'll find out. Game stuff is gonna be a lot 728 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 3: of fun. But I've got the Warriors plus the points. 729 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 3: What are we looking at payout wise? 730 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 4: Here? Like you? 731 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,240 Speaker 2: Well, I have a question for you being home, Okay, 732 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 2: you want to go safe and buy a point and 733 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 2: get at the three and a half. If you do 734 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,439 Speaker 2: that with the Warriors, we got plus four ninety one. 735 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 2: If you go straight two and a half, which is 736 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 2: your original selection, it's plus five twenty four. If you 737 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 2: want to get feisty and you go Warriors money line, 738 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 2: which is plus one twenty, then you get up to 739 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 2: six to one on the parlad. So I will allow 740 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 2: you to choose your own adventure at wild, medium or hot. 741 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 2: I'm trying. 742 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 6: I'm trying to figure out the price is right game. 743 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 2: This remind Plink Goslin. 744 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 4: Could we go moneyline, money line, money line? 745 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,479 Speaker 2: Oh you want to go money line Warriors, money line Clippers. Well, 746 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 2: now we're really cooking with gas, all right. Money Line Warriors, 747 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 2: money line Clippers over two oh six and a half 748 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 2: Clippers Nuggets is plus seven fourteen. Wow, now we're getting up. 749 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 2: Now we're cooking with gas. I'll put now it's like takata. Yeah. 750 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,280 Speaker 3: I could be talked into this depending on Rich's level 751 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 3: of custo. 752 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 6: Here, but I'll put it this. 753 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 2: I'll be completely honest with you. 754 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 3: I like the Warriors to win the game, but if 755 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 3: this is a lake of a parlay, I would go 756 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 3: plus two and a half. 757 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 2: I would stick with what that's fair. And also the 758 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 2: total is incredibly low in both of these games, especially 759 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,720 Speaker 2: the Warriors Rockets game. I mean we're pushing two hundred 760 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 2: in that Warrior's Rockets game, which means the points duke 761 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 2: tend to matter more than like a game that's like, 762 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 2: for example, you know, Tyabs Pacers is two thirty tomorrow 763 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 2: a little bit. 764 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 3: Less, right, And that's the thing, Man, two and a 765 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,240 Speaker 3: half doesn't sound like much. 766 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 6: You're like, what's that really gonna do? 767 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 3: Two and a half might have been him on the 768 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 3: money line, It's like you would be shocked. 769 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 2: Especially, Yeah, seven games land two and three of the 770 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 2: most that's right become in handy. I'll go with plus 771 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 2: two and a half myself. Yeah, let's let's play it safe. 772 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 4: We're on a winning streak. 773 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 2: Presumably, let's shame and we'll go plus three and a 774 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 2: half Clippers plus two and a half Warriors over two 775 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,240 Speaker 2: oh six and a half Clippers Nuggets. That is plus 776 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 2: five twenty four, So five to one not bad. 777 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 4: I think that's solid. That's solid. 778 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 2: Parlot, Saw Parlot. 779 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 3: You don't thumb your nose up at a five to 780 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 3: one hit, you know, No, it's a nice hit right there. Absolutely, Okay, Hi, 781 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 3: coming up next, you probably have many opinions about this event, 782 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 3: But what's your main takeaway? 783 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 2: Oh, what's going on? Happy Saturday to you? 784 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 3: What's your main takeaway when it comes to the twenty 785 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 3: twenty five NFL Draft? 786 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 2: It was one week ago. 787 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 3: We didn't have a chance to react on this show 788 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 3: to day three. You know we got hot takes when 789 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 3: it comes to day three, you kidding me? So we'll 790 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 3: get to our main takeaways here. 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We're looking for what you 799 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 3: find anything. 800 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 2: It could be anything. 801 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 3: What do you find the most interesting about the twenty 802 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 3: twenty five draft? What pick do you think will be 803 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 3: the most impactful, What will you remember the most? Anything? 804 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 6: An you can go your own way. 805 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 2: I can't hit the high notes today. 806 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know what's going on with my voice. 807 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 3: But what is your main takeaway when it comes to 808 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five NFL Draft as a whole. 809 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 4: I love two of the questions that you asked. 810 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 5: There, my main takeaway and the most impactful player. I'll 811 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 5: start with takeaway defense. I think that the emphasis on 812 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 5: versatility in the defensive backfield continues to be a trend 813 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 5: in the NFL draft, finding players who can play multiple positions. 814 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 5: They can cover out of the slot, they can cover 815 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 5: on the corners of the defense, but also they can 816 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 5: play in the box. You know, there are rare athletes 817 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 5: who can do that, but they're becoming more and more 818 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 5: prevalent at the college level, and teams are gambling with 819 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 5: much higher picks on players like that. And then, of 820 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,839 Speaker 5: course it was a deep pass rusher draft. We know that, 821 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 5: and we know that a lot of teams spent high 822 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 5: draft capital to shore up the edges of their defense because, 823 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 5: like we know, if quarterbacks the most important position on 824 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 5: the football field, the very next one you have to 825 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 5: think about is who is going to be harassing the 826 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 5: quarterback on the defensive side of the ball, so defense 827 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 5: is trying to keep up with these high powered passing offenses. 828 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 4: Is a huge takeaway. 829 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 5: And then in terms of the most impactful player, it's 830 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 5: kind of like just sprinkle instant coffee and water and 831 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 5: go ash Gingenty to the Raiders. I think he's going 832 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 5: to cure a lot of what ails them and they're 833 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,879 Speaker 5: going to have to rely on him because I don't 834 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 5: know if they're one hundred percent short up at quarterback. 835 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 5: But I like their offensive coordinator, I like their head coach. 836 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 5: I think they'll work well together. We've seen Carol what 837 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 5: his offense is can look look like, and obviously is 838 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 5: more defensive minded coach, but what he likes to get 839 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:24,439 Speaker 5: done offensively with tempo control and things like that when 840 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 5: he has a bruising running back, you know, during those 841 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 5: Marshawn Lynch years in Seattle. So I think Gashton Genty 842 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 5: is going to be the most impactful player in this 843 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 5: year's draft. 844 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 2: Wow. I like that a lot. So Mike Clay ESPN 845 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,879 Speaker 2: put out his rankings already or his projections i should say, 846 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 2: for the season, which is incredible by him to have 847 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 2: the projections out in basically the end of April, and 848 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: I was looking at gent because his props are starting 849 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 2: to come out, not only Rookie of the Year, which 850 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 2: I don't really like the bet futures market at you know, 851 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 2: the favorite. Essentially he's the favorite, but I mean he 852 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 2: deserves to be the favorite. But Mike Klave's got him 853 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 2: projected for eleven twenty five as a rookie. I mean, 854 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 2: that's a really good rookie season. But I'm seeing his 855 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 2: prop numbers in like the nine to fifty range. So yeah, 856 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 2: I don't love betting running back prop overs. But I 857 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 2: feel like I'm looking at the rest of this backfield 858 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 2: and it's most dirt. McCormick is a mere white. I mean, 859 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 2: there's it's slim pickings aarre Vegas for a Gino Smith. 860 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 2: That is an interesting, I think season that the Raiders 861 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 2: are gonna have. I kind of like what the Raiders 862 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 2: did in the draft, I really do. And I think 863 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 2: in general, I think the the general managers are really 864 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 2: starting to show us their their their hands in a sense. 865 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 2: For example, Brad Holmes now with the Lions, so all 866 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 2: he's been with the team now for I think this 867 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 2: is his fifth draft, all thirteen of his top two 868 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 2: round picks have all come from Big ten or SEC schools. 869 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,439 Speaker 2: Oh wow, Like you can start to map out these 870 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 2: general managers based off of where they pick, who they pick, 871 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,879 Speaker 2: where the players play, what their athlete score is, what 872 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 2: their profiles are, and you can really pin down what 873 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,760 Speaker 2: these plans are for these teams. For example, to Rich's 874 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 2: point on the defense, Arizona defensive minded head coach Jonathan 875 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 2: gannon really good quarterback situation. 876 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 4: Right. 877 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 2: I think Kyler Murray's, you know, in the top half 878 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,399 Speaker 2: of the league in terms of quarterback situations. I put 879 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 2: him in that realm so they didn't need a ton 880 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 2: on offense. You can always use more offense. Arizona went 881 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 2: defense in the first round, defense in the second round, 882 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 2: defense in the third round, defense in the fourth round, 883 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 2: defense in the fifth round. Profile of the head coach 884 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 2: to the team, let's flip the coin to Jacksonville. Jacksonville 885 00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 2: with an offensive minded head coach. To I know Travis 886 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 2: Hunter plays both ways, but I think based on what 887 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 2: we're hearing, he's gonna play a lot more offense than defense, 888 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 2: at least early on in his career. Jacksonville decided to 889 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,840 Speaker 2: go offense with their first pick, right, trading up for 890 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 2: Travis Hunter. So I think you can start to profile 891 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 2: the coaches, the gms based off of who they are, 892 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,320 Speaker 2: who they pick, and then you can start to slot 893 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 2: in what is the identity of this team? And I 894 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 2: think that's always the most intriguing part of every draft, 895 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 2: to kind of push that ball forward and to continue 896 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 2: to map out who these gms are and what the 897 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,800 Speaker 2: team's identity profile will be based off of their draft. 898 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 4: Yeah. 899 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 3: The thing with Travis Hunter that's interesting to me is 900 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 3: the Browns where they're like, oh, yeah, he's like Otani 901 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 3: and then in their next breath they're like, yeah, we'll 902 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 3: trade down. 903 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 6: It's like, what That's kind of weird how that worked out. 904 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 3: But as far as my main takeaway, outside of the 905 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 3: way you pronounce Marriott, apparently as a big sponsor of 906 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 3: the ESPN coverage, I always said Marriott. Am I the 907 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 3: only guy out out there that said Marriott? No, they 908 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 3: just say it's Courtyard by Marriott. 909 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 2: That's what they say. I think they were mispronouncing it. 910 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 3: Then Oh yeah, really that's the way it is. 911 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, if you pay attention to. 912 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 2: The commercial today years old, when I learned that that's yeah. 913 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 3: Likewise, yeah, well, beyond that, the draft, which is a big, 914 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 3: big picture takeaway for sure, you know, I just go 915 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 3: with a couple of quarterbacks. I don't understand how cam 916 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,280 Speaker 3: Ward goes number one while should door Sanders goes number 917 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 3: one forty four? 918 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I just that still blows my mind. 919 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 3: And beyond that, what really stands out is the general takeaway. 920 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 3: It's almost universal where it's like, yeah, that makes sense. 921 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like, wait a minute, hold on, run 922 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,879 Speaker 3: that by me again. Where I'm one of the few 923 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 3: that say I would not take cam Ward number one 924 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 3: overall if I'm the Tennessee Titans, not when Travis Hunter, 925 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 3: an Abdul Carter or right there, I just would not 926 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 3: do that. 927 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 2: Cam Ward. He's a playmaker, he's got talent. 928 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 3: We know that, But the decision making far too often 929 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 3: you're like, bro. 930 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,919 Speaker 2: What the hell was that? What were you doing? Right there? 931 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 3: Br come on, you're doing the Josh Allen tumbling out 932 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,720 Speaker 3: of bounds, throwing it across the middle of the field. 933 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 6: Like not everybody Josh Allen? 934 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 3: You know, so I would not have picked him number 935 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 3: one and the tumble to the fifth round. I don't 936 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 3: understand so many QB Needy teams. It's funny where we're 937 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 3: playing this game where it's like, where's Aaron Rodgers gonna 938 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,360 Speaker 3: end up? There aren't any more teams, and it's like 939 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 3: maybe for him, But that doesn't mean every team is 940 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,919 Speaker 3: set at quarterback. It just means they're stubborn or they're 941 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 3: hopeful to a fault. The Jets still need a quarterback. 942 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 2: They have not solved their quarterback situation with Justin Field. 943 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 2: The Colts have Anthony Freakin Richardson, who's sub fifty percent 944 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 2: completing passes in the NFL. 945 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 3: His numbers are dbo esque. They don't have a quarterback. 946 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 2: And so for. 947 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 3: QB needy teams to just be like, nah, I think 948 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 3: we're good right now blows my freaking mind. So it's 949 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 3: those two qbs, cam Ward going number one ahead of some. 950 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 2: Blue chip prospects. 951 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 3: In Travis Hunter, in Abdul Hunter, Abdul Carter, and then 952 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 3: it's it's Shador falling to pick one for fours. 953 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 4: Crazy. 954 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 3: I don't care what you perceive in terms of baggage. 955 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 3: These teams always overdraft quarterbacks and yet he fell that far. 956 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,240 Speaker 6: That is stunning. 957 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:38,879 Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what, I can't wait to see 958 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 3: how that plays out over the years to come ward 959 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 3: and shouldure. That's my main takeaway is those two guys. 960 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and you know, just to like go a 961 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 5: little bit deeper down the Shadoor Sanders or really more 962 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 5: specifically the Browns rabbit hole at quarterback. I mean, can 963 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 5: you think of a franchise that has either been more 964 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 5: unlucky at that position or has done a worst job 965 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 5: of filling that position than the Browns. The three names 966 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 5: that have had the most success at quarterback in Brown's 967 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 5: history Otto Graham, Frank Ryan, Bernie Coozar Yanks. None of 968 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 5: them have played football for the last forty five years. 969 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 5: The Cleveland Browns are a disaster of a franchise. I 970 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 5: mean you mentioned the Colts. I mean, yeah, they have 971 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 5: Anthony Richardson, but they also had Peyton Manning and Andrew 972 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 5: Luck recently. I mean we're not talking about, you know, 973 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,280 Speaker 5: as recently as this half decade, but I mean recently 974 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 5: enough that it netted them a championship within our lifetimes. 975 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 5: I mean, the Browns are a disaster. So having an 976 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,799 Speaker 5: opportunity to draft shad or Sanders if they like them, 977 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,479 Speaker 5: and skipping over him enough times so that now as 978 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 5: a fifth round draft pick, buried on the depth chart. 979 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,359 Speaker 5: I don't think the situation works with him as a 980 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 5: backup quarterback. I'm not even entirely sure it would work 981 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 5: with him as a starting quarterback if he was a 982 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 5: first round draft pick. We'll see how it all bears out. 983 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,839 Speaker 5: But but yeah, it's just it's baffling to me how 984 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 5: bad certain teams are and you can't just say, oh, well, 985 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 5: it's you know, it's just ownership. Oh well, it's you know, 986 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 5: just this front office. Oh well, it's you know, it's 987 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 5: just this head coach or wherever you want to levy 988 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 5: the blame, because there have been so many iterations, so 989 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 5: many turns of the key over the past few decades 990 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,280 Speaker 5: that I mean, there are a lot of different sets 991 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 5: of hands dirtied that there's a lot of blame to 992 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 5: go around. 993 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 4: I just it's baffling to me how. 994 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,399 Speaker 5: Bad they are at this at that specific position, because 995 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 5: they've had a lot of good teams around that position. 996 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 4: They just have not really zeroed in on the quarterback yet. 997 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't love what the Browns did in this draft. 998 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 2: I will say this, I do like Judkins. I thought 999 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,319 Speaker 2: that was a decent pick. In the second round. It 1000 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 2: looks like he's going to be the starter. I mean 1001 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,840 Speaker 2: him and Jerome Ford, I think are going to battle. 1002 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 2: But I would prefer Judkins at least early on. I mean, 1003 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 2: we'll see what happens in camp. The linebacker they took 1004 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,360 Speaker 2: from UCLA. I thought those second round picks Schweinschneiger, schwein 1005 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 2: Schneider not pronounce his name name, UCLA guy, right, I 1006 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 2: know Bo loves him, and Judkins I think those were 1007 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 2: the two best picks. And fan and two I think 1008 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 2: in the third round, you know we we we watched 1009 00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 2: him last year Rick tear up our Penn State Nittany line. 1010 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,799 Speaker 2: So yeah, he's a guy. I think that can cause 1011 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,359 Speaker 2: some problems. But obviously it's gonna be Djoku tight end 1012 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,839 Speaker 2: one in Cleveland. But then you get to the back 1013 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 2: half of the draft, like Mason Graham fell to them 1014 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 2: at five once they traded out of five. From what 1015 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,919 Speaker 2: I heard and read, they wanted to keep trading back 1016 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,520 Speaker 2: but they couldn't, and so they just took Mason Graham 1017 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 2: at five. I think that's like, you know, you kind 1018 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 2: of get stuck with the girl at the bar that 1019 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 2: you're not really interested in. And you're just like, all right, 1020 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 2: well I need someone, so I'm gonna go home with you. 1021 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 2: That's kind of where I think Mason Graham to the 1022 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 2: like he feels a need. But that was not the 1023 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,799 Speaker 2: preferred spot I think for what Cleveland wanted to do there. 1024 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 2: And then you're right, Brian, like, I think the crazy 1025 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,839 Speaker 2: part is the craziest part about all this. They took 1026 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel first. Yeah, that's the part about this that 1027 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,920 Speaker 2: I don't understand. And if you go back and you 1028 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 2: watch the clip of Andrew Berry right after they made 1029 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 2: the selection, it looks like they're going to the dentist 1030 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,840 Speaker 2: like they were not happy to make that Shador Sanders selection. 1031 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 2: Do you think Jimmy has them? The owner called in 1032 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 2: and said, listen, you gotta take this kid because Cleveland 1033 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,919 Speaker 2: was the spot that we all thought made sense as 1034 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 2: a fit. And then we heard deonce Cleveland and making 1035 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 2: jokes about going to Cleveland. But if you actually break 1036 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 2: down their quarterback situation, this is the best spot for 1037 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 2: Shador Sanders. You have a veteran in Joe Flacco that 1038 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 2: they don't want to be the starter but can in 1039 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 2: an emergency. You've got Kenny Pickett, who they love, but 1040 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,359 Speaker 2: I think deep down they don't really love them. It's 1041 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 2: a rookie I think that can go into that camp 1042 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 2: and take that job and run with it and it 1043 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it's gonna Dylan Gabriel. But 1044 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,360 Speaker 2: the way he was drafted, that's where you would assume 1045 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 2: the shador thing was. They just served him a giant 1046 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 2: slice of humble pie and that's not something he's ever 1047 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,480 Speaker 2: eaten before, and I think it didn't taste very well 1048 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 2: based off of how things went down. But does he 1049 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 2: learn from it? 1050 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:20,960 Speaker 4: Right? 1051 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 2: Rich, Like you've been in that situation before where you 1052 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 2: get pushed aside and you kind of get overlooked. Do 1053 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 2: you learn from it from your mistakes in the pre 1054 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 2: draft process, and do you bounce back strong in camp? 1055 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 2: He has an opportunity to win that job, right, We'll 1056 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 2: see if he. 1057 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:33,839 Speaker 4: Takes it well. 1058 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 3: That's the the interesting part is I think most of 1059 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 3: the talk has been up to this point, but I 1060 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 3: like what you're doing. You're spinning it forward. There's not 1061 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 3: a ton of spinning it forward. We're hung up on 1062 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 3: the slide and what was the reason for the slide 1063 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 3: and arguing about the slide shouldn't have happened. 1064 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 4: No, it should have. 1065 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 3: It should We're not spinning it forward and like you're 1066 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 3: in the same quarterback room as Flacco, Kenny Pickett, Dylan Gabriel. 1067 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,800 Speaker 2: It's like that's not a bad spot to be in. 1068 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:03,279 Speaker 6: Absolutely all right. 1069 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,280 Speaker 3: We've got Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith 1070 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 3: FSR betting analyst. 1071 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 6: I'm Brian No, it's time for the tire reck play 1072 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 6: of the day. 1073 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 4: Well, I was arguing about the call. 1074 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 5: Balls ticked up in the Aaron Shan Guns got it 1075 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,080 Speaker 5: out to a straight away three pointer for Freddy Bean. 1076 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:22,320 Speaker 4: He drains X and just like that, it's the largest 1077 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:23,320 Speaker 4: lead of the game. 1078 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 3: That's from Sports Talk nine to seventy AM Rockets Radio Network. 1079 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 6: I love how he was surprising. 1080 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 2: It was like whoa what, Oh my god. 1081 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:36,960 Speaker 6: For over forty. 1082 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 3: Years, tire req has been helping customers find the right 1083 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 3: tires for how, what and where they drive, shipped fast 1084 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 3: and free back by free road hazard protection, with convenient 1085 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,320 Speaker 3: installation options like mobile tire installation, tire rack dot Com. 1086 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 3: The way tire buying should be all right. Coming up next, 1087 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 3: our main man, Seamus McGee, team lead of Sports trading 1088 00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 3: at bet MGM. He gets us all set for game seven, 1089 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,319 Speaker 3: so we've got four of them collectively between today and 1090 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 3: tomorrow NBA NHL Playoffs, So we will just run down 1091 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 3: the docket with him and get his his seamous special, which, 1092 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:13,839 Speaker 3: who knows, might not. 1093 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 2: Even be in those two categories. We'll find out. 1094 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 3: It is Fox Sports Radio's Countdown presented by BEDMGM. It 1095 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 3: is Fox Sports Radios Countdown presented by BEDMGM. Be sure 1096 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,319 Speaker 3: to check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just 1097 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 3: search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see a 1098 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,399 Speaker 3: whole bunch of video highlights from our shows. I'm sure 1099 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 3: to subscribe to you always have instant access to our 1100 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. 1101 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:39,319 Speaker 6: I'll tell you what. 1102 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,879 Speaker 3: We're gonna catch up with Seamus McGee, hopefully pretty soon here. 1103 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 3: I can't believe he's celebrating his thirtieth birthday. 1104 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 2: I don't know why. 1105 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,800 Speaker 6: I just thought Seamus was like fifty two. 1106 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,080 Speaker 2: Or something like that. 1107 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, young at heart, but I don't know. It's probably 1108 00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 3: just the job itself. 1109 00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 4: I just I don't know. 1110 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 6: Yes, crazy, let's dive into this. 1111 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 2: Follow the money, real good money, all right. 1112 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 3: Seamus McGee, team lead of sports trading at bet MGM, 1113 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,919 Speaker 3: He joins us here, Seamus, My gosh, dude, I thought 1114 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 3: you were like double your age. You're a young buck. 1115 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,920 Speaker 3: This is amazing to me. How did this happen? 1116 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:17,480 Speaker 2: Seamus? 1117 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 7: I definitely steel older? Uh Bertie is it can't creeping up? 1118 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 7: I gotta be honest. 1119 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 6: Well, let's start with this. 1120 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 3: What do you guys at BETMGM need the most this weekend? 1121 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 4: Right? 1122 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 3: You got four game seven's collectively. You've got another NBA 1123 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 3: game to throw in there as well. Maybe it's the Derby. 1124 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 3: You need journalism to win out right. I don't know 1125 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 3: what you guys need. What do you need the most 1126 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:46,480 Speaker 3: this weekend? 1127 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 7: Well, the basketball dogs gave us a great gift by 1128 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 7: the Timberwolves knocking out the Lakers in five games. Ever, 1129 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 7: our biggest liability on the sportsbook. So now we look 1130 00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,480 Speaker 7: tomorrow with our now biggest lie AliOS for the Warriors. 1131 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 7: We'd love to see the Rockets take that home, get 1132 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 7: that liability off the books real quick. Rockets are you know, 1133 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,960 Speaker 7: a decent chunk loser for us as well, but not 1134 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 7: as bad as the Warriors, so we'd like to get 1135 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 7: them bounced early. 1136 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that series is super intriguing, I think all the 1137 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 2: series in general, right Tchamus, Like when we get to 1138 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 2: the game sevens even game six is You've got five 1139 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 2: six games of data to go off of. I'm fascinated 1140 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 2: to see how much attention the market gives to the unders. 1141 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 2: Like the game one total between Denver and LAC was 1142 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 2: two twenty five. We're sitting at two oh seven now 1143 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 2: in Game seven. And again it's not like these teams 1144 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 2: played six months ago. The Game one was like two 1145 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 2: and a half weeks ago. So you really see the 1146 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 2: market make a big emphasis on the unders and deflate 1147 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 2: those totals throughout the course of the series. Has it 1148 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 2: adjusted too much? And does the public think Game seven 1149 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 2: tonight is going over? 1150 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's definitely an interesting way. I already talking about 1151 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 7: it before, And yeah, I was a little surffrised too 1152 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,400 Speaker 7: because I forgot completely forgot to open two twenty five 1153 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 7: and a half in game one, but right now, mostly 1154 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 7: over money this opened. I think honestly two o five 1155 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 7: and a half. A lot of money came in on 1156 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 7: over there, and so we're currently sitting at two o 1157 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 7: seven and a half. But you look at these games, 1158 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 7: I mean, I think only one of them. I think 1159 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 7: only two of them actually went over that two oh 1160 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 7: seven and a half mark, so I don't know if 1161 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,360 Speaker 7: markets ad justed too much. But we'll see if this 1162 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 7: ticks up even further. 1163 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 4: By tip off, you got Nuggets. 1164 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 5: They're favored by one and a half today against the 1165 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 5: Clippers tomorrow. I think it's a narrow spread with the 1166 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 5: Warriors two favored by two and a half. I think 1167 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 5: bet MGM right now has them up to when somebody 1168 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 5: looks at some of these spreads and they think to themselves, 1169 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 5: why not just take I don't know, the Rockets on 1170 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 5: the money line, or why not just take the Clippers 1171 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:56,440 Speaker 5: on the money line? 1172 00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 4: Why not? I guess? 1173 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 5: Is the question like, do you think a couple of 1174 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 5: points one way or another makes a huge difference? 1175 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 4: Shamus? What does you know? 1176 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 5: I almost feel like I'm asking you a blackjack question? 1177 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 5: What does the book say? 1178 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 7: Basketball? For me is one where if you want to 1179 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 7: play the money line on a one and a half point, 1180 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,640 Speaker 7: I usually do it because the amount of times I 1181 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 7: get screwed that's twenty minus one and a half, my 1182 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 7: team win by one. But as far as like the 1183 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 7: Clippers Nuggets go, we're seeing pretty decent two A actions 1184 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 7: so far that money line Nuggets Clippers, So I mean, 1185 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 7: we'll see when it tips off. Slightly more money is 1186 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 7: on the Nuggets at a cheaper minus one ten price, 1187 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,200 Speaker 7: But if you go to the Warriors Rockets game, a 1188 01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 7: lot more of the money on the money line is 1189 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 7: coming in on the Rockets, and a lot more money 1190 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,240 Speaker 7: on the spread is coming in on the Warriors. So 1191 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 7: I do think some people still have like an idea 1192 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,440 Speaker 7: that they would rather take some points rather than the 1193 01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,920 Speaker 7: money line. I think, particularly with an underdog. 1194 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 3: Seamus McGee joining us here on Countdown. I hate when 1195 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,480 Speaker 3: when media guys like myself ask a two part question, 1196 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,840 Speaker 3: But I'm going to become what I hate right here 1197 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 3: because in the interest of time, we have to do this. Seamus, 1198 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,680 Speaker 3: what makurias two things? How often do you see cross 1199 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:23,480 Speaker 3: sport parlays, meaning like an NHL leg like matched with 1200 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:28,200 Speaker 3: an NBA playoff leg And then also you'll see tomorrow 1201 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 3: there's a Game seven in the NBA and there's also 1202 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,720 Speaker 3: a Game one in the NBA. Do you typically see 1203 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,760 Speaker 3: a lot more action like in a Game six, a 1204 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,560 Speaker 3: Game seven of a particular series, or in like a 1205 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 3: Game one or Game. 1206 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 2: Two, how does that normally shake out as well? 1207 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,960 Speaker 7: It's a Game sevens we love because the handles really balloon. 1208 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 7: A lot of people want to get action on that 1209 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,920 Speaker 7: Game one as well, Like it's you know, there's no 1210 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 7: you know, it's not Game four where you've seen it 1211 01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 7: kind of play out. Some people get a little skittish 1212 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,200 Speaker 7: about some games Game one. People definitely want to get 1213 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 7: their toes in the water. As far as cross sport 1214 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:06,040 Speaker 7: play parlays go, I mean, you'll see them all the 1215 01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 7: time during like October when you have all four major 1216 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 7: sports going on. Today, this weekend is a great weekend 1217 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,920 Speaker 7: for especially with multiple Game sevens. We're definitely gonna see 1218 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 7: a lot of them this week. 1219 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,640 Speaker 2: Let's go to another Game seven on the ice. We 1220 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,320 Speaker 2: don't talk about hockey a ton on this show. Let's 1221 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 2: start to talk about it a little bit more as 1222 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,440 Speaker 2: we get closer to the finals. But you've got a 1223 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 2: fantastic series between Colorado and Dallas that'll finish tonight. The 1224 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 2: Game seven undervibes have been much more prominent in hockey 1225 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 2: than in basketball lately. Last year Game sevens, all four 1226 01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 2: of them stayed under the total, and three out of 1227 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,120 Speaker 2: the four were very tight one goal games. Is that 1228 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,000 Speaker 2: your vibe for this one five and a half? The 1229 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:50,080 Speaker 2: total Colorado is slight favorite on the road, well, taking. 1230 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 7: Slightly more money on the over five and a half 1231 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 7: right now, But I mean I kind of like the 1232 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,320 Speaker 7: under here. I think both goalis have played exception exceptionally 1233 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 7: well so far. Definitely see this thing out. I mean 1234 01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,680 Speaker 7: you see a lot of this over stuff, mainly because 1235 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 7: the Stars were really banged up on their blue line 1236 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 7: coming into this series. But I think Jake Gotten's shown 1237 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,120 Speaker 7: why he's one of the best goaltenders in the game 1238 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,280 Speaker 7: right now. And Mackenzie Blackwood, I mean, he's played really 1239 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 7: well this year, one of the best goalies so far 1240 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,240 Speaker 7: in the playoffs. So I also like the under here. 1241 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:25,520 Speaker 5: Shdoor Sanders was such a highly touted prospect, and I 1242 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 5: guess with when you look at all the draft analysts, 1243 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 5: they were fooled. 1244 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 4: When you look at some of the executives in. 1245 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 5: Front offices of the NFL, they were fooled because there 1246 01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 5: were certain you know, either anonymous or on the record 1247 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,439 Speaker 5: quote saying how shocked some of these coaches in front 1248 01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:45,640 Speaker 5: office members were. How did everybody, including Vegas get this 1249 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:46,280 Speaker 5: so wrong? 1250 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 7: Well, so his over under ropp was twenty one and 1251 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,720 Speaker 7: a half because it just felt like it's not no 1252 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,440 Speaker 7: one really saw him going top ten. There was a 1253 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,920 Speaker 7: little bit of smoke that maybe the shades we're going 1254 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,200 Speaker 7: to take it to be at nine. But it was 1255 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,400 Speaker 7: crazy because the day of the draft, it was a 1256 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:09,160 Speaker 7: lot of dart Steam going at nine overall over Shador. 1257 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 7: And that's when you kind of felt watching the odds 1258 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 7: that you know, things were starting to fall into place, 1259 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,919 Speaker 7: and maybe Shador is going to fall limit or at 1260 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 7: the very least Steelers at twenty one, which felt like 1261 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,920 Speaker 7: that was going to be it for a while. And 1262 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 7: I was, honestly, I was waiting for you guys to 1263 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 7: talk to you because I was listening before. I don't 1264 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 7: know where this damn ward plannder is coming from, incarnate 1265 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 7: word legend. I don't know what we're doing. 1266 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 2: I've got him apologize, apologize. It's very well played by you. 1267 01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 7: We're talking about like we're surprised of these quotes coming out. 1268 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,800 Speaker 7: Have you heard him talk Shador in these press conferences? 1269 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,120 Speaker 7: Are you going to talk about his own teammates? I'm 1270 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,320 Speaker 7: not I wasn't surprised in the slightest all the anonymous 1271 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 7: sources coming out. I mean, is he better than Tyler 1272 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,240 Speaker 7: Shop I think he is probably. I thought Shock went 1273 01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 7: higher than I would have thought he would ever go 1274 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 7: in an NFL draft. But I mean, these are things 1275 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 7: I think a lot of teams have to take into account. 1276 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,200 Speaker 7: Is how is this guy going to be in a 1277 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 7: locker room? If my Jets took him, it would be 1278 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:19,680 Speaker 7: an unmitigated nightmare at that Life Stadium. It would every 1279 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 7: week it would be Deon Sanders falling into radio stations. 1280 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,760 Speaker 7: If my son got to play. The fan base is 1281 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,200 Speaker 7: already annoying as it is, they would be screwed and 1282 01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 7: he would come in and he would probably awful like 1283 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:34,960 Speaker 7: every other Jets quarterback. Like I'm not surprised. I think 1284 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,160 Speaker 7: he felt too far. I will say through I was 1285 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 7: crazy to me. I mean, he did show a lot. 1286 01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 7: I think, you know, he does complete a lot of passes, 1287 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,360 Speaker 7: but takes a lot of sacks. He doesn't really take 1288 01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,400 Speaker 7: a lot of chances. So I think there were a 1289 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,160 Speaker 7: lot of teams that were a They didn't think he 1290 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 7: was that good. And he completely watched the pre draft process, 1291 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,960 Speaker 7: which is why I think you saw him fall and 1292 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,080 Speaker 7: you really started to see it all come together the 1293 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,320 Speaker 7: day of the draft, watching some odds move really against him, 1294 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:05,440 Speaker 7: really because you saw dark dodds like skyrocketing up to 1295 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:06,680 Speaker 7: be the next quarterback taken. 1296 01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:12,240 Speaker 3: I did not realize it was p one, Seamus McGee. 1297 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,920 Speaker 3: I did not realize that you're deep in the game 1298 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:15,720 Speaker 3: of countdown. 1299 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 2: This is amazing newshamous. All right, special this weekend. What 1300 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,000 Speaker 2: do you have at the top of your betting list? 1301 01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:23,080 Speaker 2: Give us a Derby pick? 1302 01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 7: So I have to give you my Derby long shot. 1303 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 7: A Japanese horse has never won the Kentucky Derby, and 1304 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,440 Speaker 7: I think that might change today with admirer Daytona in 1305 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,160 Speaker 7: the sixth Bowl. You get him huge odds right now. 1306 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 7: He's a it's a very fast horse. The conditions are 1307 01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,720 Speaker 7: going to be a little sloppy today, so I think 1308 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 7: it's gonna be a really wide open race. I like 1309 01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,720 Speaker 7: fading a little on journalism because you know a lot 1310 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 7: of the fields journalism rides on mostly like six seven horses. 1311 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,080 Speaker 7: He gets bumped, he's gonna be in a position he's 1312 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,840 Speaker 7: probably never been in a race before. So I think 1313 01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,280 Speaker 7: this race is one worthy of a long shot. Ana 1314 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,680 Speaker 7: is my favorite one. If I had to take another. 1315 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,320 Speaker 7: I like East Avenue as well in the twelve spot, 1316 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,760 Speaker 7: as far as another famous special. Here now honor my 1317 01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:14,120 Speaker 7: thirtieth birthday, I think I'm gonna be taking Jamal Murray 1318 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 7: to score thirty plus points today. 1319 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 4: Wow. 1320 01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 6: Wow, all right, I like the game, Jamal. 1321 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:20,040 Speaker 2: Love that. 1322 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,480 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, happy birthday, Seamus. I always appreciate you popping 1323 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,200 Speaker 3: on the show Man. We'll catch up with you soon. 1324 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,040 Speaker 7: Thanks, guys, have a goe you too. 1325 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:28,280 Speaker 5: There. 1326 01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,440 Speaker 3: He is Seamus McGee, team lead of sports Trading at Betty. 1327 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,520 Speaker 2: He said he wanted to cook today and he cooked 1328 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,760 Speaker 2: and he did, he did, he did he. 1329 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,400 Speaker 6: I think he was yelling at his radio. 1330 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,880 Speaker 3: He sounds like when I was laying out my cam 1331 01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 3: Ward Shader sandor. Oh He's like, what, no, Jade, what 1332 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,040 Speaker 3: I picture him yelling at? Well whatever is the equivalent 1333 01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:52,640 Speaker 3: of his radio. 1334 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:56,720 Speaker 2: He's streaming on the phone at MGM account for Unusual Training. 1335 01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 3: Now, wow, that was good. Okay, So we've got some 1336 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,800 Speaker 3: top shelf audio for you here today. Okay, became bearing 1337 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 3: gifts and this is I hate this on one hand 1338 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:17,839 Speaker 3: because our our technical producer, extraordinary, Chris Purfett. He writes 1339 01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:22,160 Speaker 3: hard for Detroit Sports okay, including the Detroit Pistons. So 1340 01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,640 Speaker 3: this is not any type of troll job. I just 1341 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 3: randomly stumbled onto the Korean call. 1342 01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,760 Speaker 2: I did, I did? It was? I promised you was 1343 01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:38,160 Speaker 2: totally I might have sent it to him, so right, yeah, 1344 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,880 Speaker 2: but I ran across this. This is from I guess 1345 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,639 Speaker 2: Spoe TV. I don't know. 1346 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:48,400 Speaker 6: Let's go with that. It's Korean. 1347 01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know him. 1348 01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,720 Speaker 3: Okay, no, no he didn't, he didn't. I don't know 1349 01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,679 Speaker 3: why I was. Actually i'll tell you why. Let's let's 1350 01:08:56,680 --> 01:09:01,080 Speaker 3: start with this. I grabbed audio from the because Iron 1351 01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,320 Speaker 3: Eagle said something earlier in the game that I thought 1352 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,360 Speaker 3: was really interesting. So we'll start with this to clear 1353 01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,439 Speaker 3: my good name of how I stumbled onto this Korean 1354 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:13,640 Speaker 3: TV audio. But it started with this gem from TNT's 1355 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:14,200 Speaker 3: Iron Eagle. 1356 01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:14,960 Speaker 6: Check this out. 1357 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,559 Speaker 4: Asar Thompson his middle name. Are you familiar with his 1358 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:19,120 Speaker 4: middle name? 1359 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:27,280 Speaker 2: It's x l NC spelling excellence. How about that? That 1360 01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:27,920 Speaker 2: is a gem? 1361 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,680 Speaker 3: Right, it's actually both a Sar and a men Thompson, 1362 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,679 Speaker 3: the young second year players. They're twin brothers. They both 1363 01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,400 Speaker 3: have the same middle name, excellent. 1364 01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,759 Speaker 2: Changing my middle name. That's that's awes. 1365 01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:44,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you just look at Basketball Reference, just pull 1366 01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:45,720 Speaker 3: him up and you'll see it. You'll see the full 1367 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,400 Speaker 3: name awesome x L n C excellence for both of them. 1368 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,800 Speaker 2: So I went on the NBA app to grab that, 1369 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,519 Speaker 2: and then when on the trapdown menu, it's like, here's 1370 01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:00,639 Speaker 2: the call on the next TV broadcast the Pistons, Here's 1371 01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:03,040 Speaker 2: the Spanish version, here's the Korean version. 1372 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, I gotta hear what the Korean version sounds like. 1373 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,960 Speaker 3: This is the game winning shot in series clinching shot 1374 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,599 Speaker 3: from Jalen Brunson on SPO TV in Korea. 1375 01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:15,599 Speaker 2: You wanted to become about? 1376 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,519 Speaker 5: I think that's pretty easy to follow myself, Like, right, 1377 01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:29,920 Speaker 5: that is his name, Brunson. 1378 01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,400 Speaker 2: How awesome is that? Are you kidding me? What a call? 1379 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:40,280 Speaker 4: How to speak Korean? I understood every word. That's unbelievable here. 1380 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,160 Speaker 9: Not not hating on it still though it makes me 1381 01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,200 Speaker 9: immediately think of the French call on Steph Curran at 1382 01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:46,840 Speaker 9: the Olympics. 1383 01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:51,559 Speaker 2: Though, yeah, yeah, they called them anything better than like, 1384 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,880 Speaker 2: you know, foreign language calls for exciting moments. These these 1385 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,200 Speaker 2: guys get into it. 1386 01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:02,000 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, out any Spanish caller the Brazilian car. 1387 01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:04,000 Speaker 2: In soccer. 1388 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:05,160 Speaker 1: I was thinking. 1389 01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,439 Speaker 9: I was just thinking NFL like all that stuff, like 1390 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,400 Speaker 9: they go nuts. 1391 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,000 Speaker 3: You know, and there's one I can't let this opportunity 1392 01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:17,320 Speaker 3: pass because this was after our show last Saturday. It's 1393 01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:21,879 Speaker 3: day three of the NFL Draft. Okay, and this says, actually, 1394 01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,400 Speaker 3: this is a shout out to Detroit for you, Chris. 1395 01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:24,920 Speaker 4: So. 1396 01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:29,680 Speaker 3: This guy is Marius Dell. He's the international fan of 1397 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:34,000 Speaker 3: the Year. He's from Germany. He was announcing the Lions. 1398 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 3: I believe it was their sixth round pick, and uh, 1399 01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 3: he greets everybody in Green. 1400 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:46,200 Speaker 2: Bay by saying this. He hits us with the what 1401 01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,000 Speaker 2: up though, I still remember that. 1402 01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:49,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, that was great. 1403 01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,679 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that is so good. 1404 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:55,719 Speaker 3: Are you I'm making everybody's text tone what up dough 1405 01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,680 Speaker 3: everybody that's gonna sound like. 1406 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,280 Speaker 6: And then he went on to say this again. 1407 01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 3: Everybody tries to troll the Packers and this was his 1408 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:06,840 Speaker 3: best attempt. 1409 01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:13,840 Speaker 5: Now, I want to you all the Packers owners. 1410 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:22,960 Speaker 2: Well, honestly, I didn't hurt Jered Goff. Sorry jokes jokes 1411 01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,479 Speaker 2: right there, man, Yes, Jared Goff owns the Packers. That 1412 01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,880 Speaker 2: was his best attempt there. But man, I'll tell you 1413 01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,599 Speaker 2: what that is. That is legendary audio. Some might say 1414 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,759 Speaker 2: that's a little bit too much a praise. No, no, 1415 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,320 Speaker 2: it might not be enough. That is to start it 1416 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:39,679 Speaker 2: off with this is. 1417 01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:46,519 Speaker 9: I will drop to start our show every morning. 1418 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:50,240 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, we gotta yes, exactly, Chris, We've got 1419 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:53,559 Speaker 3: to put that in like prop it up or rapid fire. 1420 01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,479 Speaker 6: It might not fit at all. Who cares. 1421 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:56,439 Speaker 2: It's just funny. 1422 01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,800 Speaker 6: It's good, Yes, good morning. 1423 01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:00,680 Speaker 9: More it's like, what's a so, what's going on? 1424 01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:00,960 Speaker 1: Guys? 1425 01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:01,960 Speaker 4: This what up Door? 1426 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:04,280 Speaker 2: Countdown? 1427 01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,240 Speaker 4: Every morning? Yes? What Sports Radio? 1428 01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,840 Speaker 2: Normally when I dial up Bo and Chris, I'll say 1429 01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:14,280 Speaker 2: one of two things. It's either yao or it's what OP. 1430 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:15,320 Speaker 2: I don't know why. 1431 01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:15,720 Speaker 4: That's what? 1432 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,719 Speaker 3: From now on, What up Door is what I'm gonna 1433 01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:20,880 Speaker 3: have to free them with every now and then. All right, 1434 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,719 Speaker 3: we've got Rich Orenberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith 1435 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,120 Speaker 3: FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No right around the corner, 1436 01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,559 Speaker 3: prop it up the prop betting market. We will compare 1437 01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:35,160 Speaker 3: copious notes. It's Fox Sports Radios Countdown presented by BETMGM. 1438 01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:39,320 Speaker 3: It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown presented by bet MGM. 1439 01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:43,839 Speaker 3: Score Bigger at BETMGM when you win with boost tokens, odds, 1440 01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,320 Speaker 3: boost tokens and more. 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I 1452 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:17,920 Speaker 2: don't bet the's a ton, but this one stood out 1453 01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:21,719 Speaker 2: to me today, very low number with Zach Littel three 1454 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:23,479 Speaker 2: and a half. Now, it's juicy to the over minus 1455 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:24,040 Speaker 2: one fifty. 1456 01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:25,160 Speaker 4: I see some minus one. 1457 01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,320 Speaker 2: Thirty out there. Obviously that's the better bet, but I 1458 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,200 Speaker 2: do think three and a half is a number I'm 1459 01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:32,560 Speaker 2: willing to go over on. So Lttel's had a relatively 1460 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,680 Speaker 2: sluggish start pitching wise, but also strikeout wise. This is 1461 01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:37,080 Speaker 2: a guy that, throughout the course of his career is 1462 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,599 Speaker 2: about seven and a half. Case for nine, he's down 1463 01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,080 Speaker 2: at like five point eight to his first six starts, 1464 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,360 Speaker 2: coming off with two really tough starts against San Diego 1465 01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,759 Speaker 2: and Arizona. Those are two of the low lowest strikeout 1466 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:51,120 Speaker 2: percentage teams in Major League Baseball. He faces the Yankees today, 1467 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,600 Speaker 2: one of the highest teams in Major League Baseball. So 1468 01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,600 Speaker 2: after just three strikeouts over his last two starts, I 1469 01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,680 Speaker 2: feel confident Lettel's going to positively regrets to the mean 1470 01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,519 Speaker 2: today against a higher strikeout lineup. He did have a 1471 01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,840 Speaker 2: seven strikeout game way back against the Rockies in his 1472 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,240 Speaker 2: first start, so he has the potential to go high. 1473 01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,519 Speaker 2: I think four is a very reasonable number against the 1474 01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:14,000 Speaker 2: Yanks today over three and a half strikeouts for Zach Lttel. 1475 01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,600 Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna go to the MBA. 1476 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,320 Speaker 5: A prop that I'm particularly interested in is how the 1477 01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,840 Speaker 5: front court of the Clippers has handled. 1478 01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,200 Speaker 4: Nikola Jokic, especially in Game six. 1479 01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,000 Speaker 5: They may have discovered something there, and so I think 1480 01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,160 Speaker 5: he's going to be looking to pass the ball more, 1481 01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:35,559 Speaker 5: which may boost his assist total. Right now, log that 1482 01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:39,280 Speaker 5: nine and a half give me the over on Jokic assists, 1483 01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:44,160 Speaker 5: looking for outlet passes, looking for three pointers, especially if 1484 01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,479 Speaker 5: Denver gets down at any point to the Clippers Jokich 1485 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:48,320 Speaker 5: over the nine and. 1486 01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:49,280 Speaker 4: A half assists. 1487 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,880 Speaker 3: Like what you're thinking right there, Rich, I just hope 1488 01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:55,759 Speaker 3: that his assists aren't going to Michael Porter Junior. Okay, 1489 01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:59,360 Speaker 3: because I'm taking the under Unmvjay's points. 1490 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,479 Speaker 6: Here it's been jekyln Hyde with MPJ. 1491 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,479 Speaker 3: He's a good player, but he's got this shoulder injury 1492 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:09,240 Speaker 3: that's bothering him some. And I just look at under 1493 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,040 Speaker 3: ten and a half points for Michael Porter Junior. My 1494 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:15,880 Speaker 3: thinking is in a game like this game seven against 1495 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,280 Speaker 3: the Clippers, who do play good defense. Last time in Denver, 1496 01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,040 Speaker 3: they didn't play any defense whatsoever. 1497 01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,040 Speaker 2: Like the Nuggets. 1498 01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,360 Speaker 3: Scored one hundred and thirty one points and Jokic had thirteen, 1499 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:31,080 Speaker 3: and they like it's like, Wow, where's the Clippers defense. 1500 01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:34,080 Speaker 3: I think their defense is much better in a game seven, 1501 01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,240 Speaker 3: And I think that typically you see the stars shine 1502 01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:42,479 Speaker 3: brightest in a game seven situation. So I'm expecting Jokic 1503 01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:46,439 Speaker 3: and Jamal Murray obviously to be the headlining act for 1504 01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:47,160 Speaker 3: the Nuggets. 1505 01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 4: But with that. 1506 01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:52,519 Speaker 3: Sometimes the role players their production dips even more. 1507 01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:54,719 Speaker 6: And I look at Michael Porter. 1508 01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:59,320 Speaker 3: Junior shoulder injury game seven situation, I like under ten. 1509 01:16:59,200 --> 01:16:59,920 Speaker 2: And a half point. 1510 01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,240 Speaker 3: I also think this line stinks a bit because it 1511 01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:04,400 Speaker 3: started off in Game one. 1512 01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:05,240 Speaker 6: It's points total. 1513 01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,560 Speaker 3: His prop was sixteen and a half, and it's fluctuated 1514 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:09,559 Speaker 3: throughout the series. 1515 01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,720 Speaker 2: It's been steady at twelve and a half. Yet for 1516 01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:16,400 Speaker 2: Game seven it's ten and a half. I think that stinks. 1517 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,559 Speaker 2: So I think they're kind of like, come on, only 1518 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:23,080 Speaker 2: eleven points. Come on, he's good for eleven, right. 1519 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,880 Speaker 3: He's scored in this series. He's had games of fifteen, seventeen, 1520 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,840 Speaker 3: and fourteen. Those are his over totals, but he's also 1521 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,240 Speaker 3: had production of three, five and seven. 1522 01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:34,639 Speaker 6: So I think when they're like. 1523 01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, it started off at sixteen and a half, come 1524 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,120 Speaker 2: on ten and a half. You love this, the water's great, 1525 01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:40,040 Speaker 2: come on in. 1526 01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:42,559 Speaker 6: I think they're trying to sucker you in. 1527 01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,000 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna fade Michael Porter Junior under ten and 1528 01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:45,679 Speaker 3: a half points. 1529 01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:47,920 Speaker 2: It's what I have in Game seven. Yeah, I bet 1530 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,000 Speaker 2: him over the other night and it didn't work out. 1531 01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 7: Well. 1532 01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,679 Speaker 3: It's jekylin Hyde, right, Like there have been games where 1533 01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,200 Speaker 3: he's he's been over, Like there was one game Game 1534 01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 3: four his points total was nine and half. 1535 01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:01,520 Speaker 6: He scored seventeen. 1536 01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's worth the exact opposite way where Game 1537 01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,360 Speaker 3: one it was sixteen and a half he scored three. 1538 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:11,360 Speaker 3: You know, So it's it's hit or miss, and I'm 1539 01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,160 Speaker 3: gonna bet on miss here. For MPJ, he's a good player, 1540 01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:15,360 Speaker 3: but limited with the shoulders. 1541 01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,320 Speaker 4: And also, yeah, the shoulder is factoring. 1542 01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,320 Speaker 5: But also I do think Denver like a lot of 1543 01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:25,799 Speaker 5: teams with a all consuming superstar, and I think he's 1544 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:31,240 Speaker 5: I think that Jokic is better balanced than maybe some 1545 01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:35,040 Speaker 5: other players because he he does dish the ball well. 1546 01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:39,920 Speaker 5: But what happens is the players around a player like 1547 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:43,599 Speaker 5: a Jokic will have hot nights and off nights, and 1548 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:48,640 Speaker 5: I think it's because their consistency isn't really the reliance. 1549 01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,120 Speaker 5: Like if Jokic was a yo yo player like that, 1550 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,640 Speaker 5: well he wouldn't be a regarded as highly as he is. 1551 01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,840 Speaker 4: But also the Denver would be the Denver Nuggets would 1552 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,000 Speaker 4: be completely differently constructive. 1553 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,639 Speaker 5: So that need Porter Junior to be on fire every 1554 01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:07,120 Speaker 5: single night because they do have Jo Kich. 1555 01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,880 Speaker 2: What's the hottened vibes tonight? Guys? Do we think it's 1556 01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,080 Speaker 2: good hard? I hope it's good hard for a Clippers bet. 1557 01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,320 Speaker 2: But he's he's he's been a no show in game seven's, 1558 01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:18,280 Speaker 2: but he was good in Game six. 1559 01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:20,320 Speaker 6: He really was Game six. 1560 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, aggressive, he's aggressive. You know. 1561 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,400 Speaker 3: One thing to keep in mind, Michael Porter Junior. His 1562 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,200 Speaker 3: rebounding prop is five and a half. It's just heavy 1563 01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:30,799 Speaker 3: to the under minus one ninety. 1564 01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:32,880 Speaker 2: You really expect him to go in there and start 1565 01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,760 Speaker 2: banging around with that shoulder. No, so his rebound's got 1566 01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:37,280 Speaker 2: to go somewhere, right Like. 1567 01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:40,720 Speaker 3: Jokich is obviously the main guy, But who is that 1568 01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:42,160 Speaker 3: secondary rebounder? 1569 01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:42,439 Speaker 4: Is it. 1570 01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,360 Speaker 2: Maybe Jamal Murty, Aaron Gordon, Christian Brown. 1571 01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,439 Speaker 3: Like those guys are at five and a half, one 1572 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,240 Speaker 3: of those guys going over, Like one of those guys 1573 01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,520 Speaker 3: grabbing six rebounds with MPJ being limited. 1574 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,200 Speaker 2: How about five rebound Murray plus one oh five? 1575 01:19:58,560 --> 01:19:59,639 Speaker 6: Hey, leave it in mind. 1576 01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:07,280 Speaker 3: Coming up next, the last dance should already have happened. Oh, 1577 01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:11,719 Speaker 3: welcome in Happy Saturday to you. The last dance should 1578 01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,439 Speaker 3: have already happened. We'll give you some details as far 1579 01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,720 Speaker 3: as that goes here in just a few seconds. You 1580 01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,559 Speaker 3: can stream this show and all of our Fox Sports 1581 01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,040 Speaker 3: Radio shows live twenty four to seven in the new and. 1582 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,960 Speaker 6: Improved iHeartRadio app. 1583 01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,519 Speaker 3: Just search Fox Sports Radio in the app to stream 1584 01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:28,840 Speaker 3: us live and one of the newest features in the 1585 01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:31,360 Speaker 3: app is you can select Fox Sports Radio as one 1586 01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:34,679 Speaker 3: of your presets, just like the presets on a radio dial. 1587 01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,760 Speaker 3: So be sure to preset Fox Sports Radio in the 1588 01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:41,160 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app and it'll always. 1589 01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:42,559 Speaker 2: Pop up at the top of your screen. 1590 01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:47,120 Speaker 3: Okay, So I got to do some fill in radio 1591 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:52,559 Speaker 3: for a Milwaukee station shout out the game, and I 1592 01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:56,600 Speaker 3: laid out my take that Jannis should have played his 1593 01:20:56,720 --> 01:21:00,840 Speaker 3: last game for the Milwaukee Bucks and listen expected to 1594 01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:05,880 Speaker 3: have multiple restraining orders by now. You know, like you know, 1595 01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:10,040 Speaker 3: like you know, like the they're acting like dogs with 1596 01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:13,240 Speaker 3: rabies over there. But no, no, actually, like good half 1597 01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,000 Speaker 3: of the people agreed, and I'll lay it out for you, guys. 1598 01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:17,000 Speaker 6: I'm curious what you think. 1599 01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:20,400 Speaker 3: So we know the last dance with the Chicago Bulls, right, 1600 01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,960 Speaker 3: it's gonna be the ninety seven ninety eight season. This 1601 01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,439 Speaker 3: is the last time the band is gonna be together. 1602 01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,880 Speaker 3: Let's go win a title. They knew beforehand that was 1603 01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:33,080 Speaker 3: going to be it amazing ten part documentary. I think 1604 01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,759 Speaker 3: it's different with the Bucks. I think the last Dance 1605 01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,439 Speaker 3: should have already happened. It was a heartbreaking loss for 1606 01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:42,519 Speaker 3: the Bucks. They lose an overtime against the Pacers. Damian 1607 01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:47,360 Speaker 3: Lillard has that achilles injury. It's awful, horrible, but you 1608 01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:50,679 Speaker 3: gotta make big boy decisions here, and the Bucks need 1609 01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,599 Speaker 3: to trade Giannis because of the window. Giannis is a 1610 01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:57,960 Speaker 3: super star. He is completely capable of winning a championship. 1611 01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:04,599 Speaker 3: The Bucks supporting cas minus Dame, They're nowhere near quality 1612 01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:06,599 Speaker 3: enough to compete for a championship, and. 1613 01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,360 Speaker 6: That's why you gotta move them. 1614 01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,960 Speaker 3: And I also think this the risk isn't worth the reward. 1615 01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:16,559 Speaker 3: What if they keep you honest and he gets injured 1616 01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:21,120 Speaker 3: like Dame this next season, then what that's a legitimate possibility. 1617 01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,080 Speaker 6: He's had calf injuries before. 1618 01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:26,559 Speaker 3: He's missed an entire playoff series last year against the 1619 01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:28,840 Speaker 3: Pacers because he had that calf. 1620 01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,679 Speaker 6: Injury and they were worried it could turn into worse. 1621 01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:35,800 Speaker 3: So it's like, why would you risk that injury and 1622 01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:39,600 Speaker 3: that trade value plummeting for what if they run it 1623 01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:40,400 Speaker 3: back with Giannis? 1624 01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:41,639 Speaker 6: What are they gonna do next season? 1625 01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:45,080 Speaker 3: They're gonna win forty something games, be a low seed, 1626 01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,320 Speaker 3: and get bounced right away. Why would you do that? 1627 01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:51,599 Speaker 3: It just doesn't make sense. And the last thing I'll say, 1628 01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:55,519 Speaker 3: I get it. Parting with the star hurts. It's an 1629 01:22:55,560 --> 01:23:00,000 Speaker 3: awful reality, but it might make you feel better down 1630 01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,880 Speaker 3: the road. Some of the assets that you're able to 1631 01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:06,520 Speaker 3: acquire turn into real pillars for the franchise. 1632 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:07,719 Speaker 6: We've seen this numerous times. 1633 01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,240 Speaker 3: Look at the Celtics, it hurt to get rid of 1634 01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:14,000 Speaker 3: Paul Pierce and KG beloved finally won a title. It 1635 01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,479 Speaker 3: was twenty some years and they dealt him and what 1636 01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,880 Speaker 3: did that turn into? Tatum and Brown and now they're 1637 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:24,160 Speaker 3: defending champs looking for more. Look at OKC, it hurt 1638 01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,839 Speaker 3: after KD left. You had Russell Westbrook, Paul George. 1639 01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,320 Speaker 2: It hurt to let him go, but it turned into 1640 01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,240 Speaker 2: a boatload of picks and SGA. 1641 01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:35,479 Speaker 6: They got an MVP. 1642 01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,720 Speaker 3: Out of that instead of like, no, we don't want 1643 01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:41,120 Speaker 3: to let go our beloved players, ripped the band aid off. 1644 01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:45,320 Speaker 3: The Bucks have to deal Giannis. That's my sales pitch man. 1645 01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:50,280 Speaker 5: You know, it's it's difficult to part with your identity. 1646 01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,479 Speaker 5: You know, from a personal standpoint, I remember when I 1647 01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:59,800 Speaker 5: left football and I started I don't know, I guess 1648 01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:03,000 Speaker 5: you could say, putting the feelers out in the broadcast 1649 01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:08,639 Speaker 5: world and started to, you know, change who I was 1650 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:13,280 Speaker 5: for I mean, more than half my life into a 1651 01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:17,880 Speaker 5: new identity. I mean that that sounds so ridiculous, but 1652 01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,600 Speaker 5: from a personal standpoint, that's exactly what it felt like. 1653 01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:24,080 Speaker 5: It felt like I was I was stripping off, you know, 1654 01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:28,160 Speaker 5: this this old me and entering a new, a new me. 1655 01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:31,400 Speaker 5: And it was it was a strange transition, and it 1656 01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:34,200 Speaker 5: was really difficult. And even though we're talking about something 1657 01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:37,360 Speaker 5: that was a hobby or you know, a sport I 1658 01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:41,040 Speaker 5: played as a kid, that turned into really a career 1659 01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,120 Speaker 5: and a job once you get to college. Because I 1660 01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,559 Speaker 5: even said this when I was a college athlete, before 1661 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,320 Speaker 5: players were allowed to be paid to play in college, 1662 01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:51,800 Speaker 5: it really is a full time job. And it is 1663 01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:56,760 Speaker 5: a round the clock, all year, full time job. And 1664 01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,880 Speaker 5: and then when you you finally become a pro, there's 1665 01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,800 Speaker 5: no question about it, like you are identified as a 1666 01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:03,559 Speaker 5: football player. 1667 01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:04,559 Speaker 4: That is who you are. 1668 01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:08,840 Speaker 5: So it is definitely difficult to change your stripes from 1669 01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:13,960 Speaker 5: a personal standpoint, and going through that process was particularly 1670 01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:16,559 Speaker 5: difficult for me, and I'm sure it's for many people. 1671 01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,040 Speaker 4: How about for a team, for an. 1672 01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:24,280 Speaker 5: Organization, for a front office, for an ownership group, when 1673 01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:31,599 Speaker 5: you have invested so mightily literally jobs, occupations, livelihoods. You know, 1674 01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:35,960 Speaker 5: college tuitions are staked on the success of this franchise 1675 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:40,640 Speaker 5: and you are inexorably linked to this player for a decade, 1676 01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:42,360 Speaker 5: and then you're gonna have to pull the band aid 1677 01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:43,320 Speaker 5: off cold turkey. 1678 01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,120 Speaker 4: Like there, it's a hard decision to make. 1679 01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:50,120 Speaker 5: So while I'm with you, like, yeah, it does, on 1680 01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,720 Speaker 5: the outside looking in, seem like the right idea at 1681 01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:54,880 Speaker 5: this point in his career. 1682 01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,240 Speaker 4: There's real trade value there. 1683 01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:01,840 Speaker 5: You're probably gonna see Yannis have success with another franchise 1684 01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:07,120 Speaker 5: Brian for many years, potentially beyond the time that he 1685 01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:10,599 Speaker 5: plays for Milwaukee. But it's like he got to strike 1686 01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,000 Speaker 5: while the iron's hot, and the iron is still hot 1687 01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,920 Speaker 5: enough for you to get something back for him. So 1688 01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:19,599 Speaker 5: I get what you're saying, but I mean, having gone 1689 01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:23,440 Speaker 5: through this myself at a personal level, I can't imagine 1690 01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:26,320 Speaker 5: how difficult it is to make that decision as a 1691 01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,719 Speaker 5: franchise or an organization, because it's not just one person. 1692 01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,639 Speaker 5: It is the entirety of that organization are very least 1693 01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,200 Speaker 5: the entirety of the decision makers who need to be 1694 01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:42,120 Speaker 5: comfortable with this complete personality switch from an organizational standpoint. 1695 01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:46,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some interesting elements here. Let's break him down. 1696 01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,720 Speaker 2: Let's start with Bucks general manager John Horst, who just 1697 01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,960 Speaker 2: signed a contract extension two weeks ago, so he's got 1698 01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:56,800 Speaker 2: a little bit of i would say, longevity, little job 1699 01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,840 Speaker 2: security to maybe make a move that's outside of the 1700 01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,400 Speaker 2: I think that's the first step of this. Now you 1701 01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,160 Speaker 2: get to the second step, which was Brian's original point, 1702 01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:11,000 Speaker 2: the trade itself. What are we getting back for you, honest, 1703 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:14,880 Speaker 2: I think is the big question? And then are there 1704 01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:19,720 Speaker 2: teams out there that have the incentive to make a 1705 01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:23,160 Speaker 2: splash and take on that risk, because you know, if 1706 01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:24,920 Speaker 2: we're all in agreement, and I think, based off of 1707 01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,840 Speaker 2: what we're hearing, what I'm hearing from Brian and Rich, 1708 01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:30,280 Speaker 2: like we're all kind of in agreement that Jannis's trade 1709 01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:32,840 Speaker 2: value is probably at its peak right now, Like if 1710 01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,200 Speaker 2: you wait another year or two, you might not get 1711 01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:37,080 Speaker 2: back the hall that you need to make the deal. 1712 01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:38,920 Speaker 2: But on the other side of that, the team that 1713 01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:43,960 Speaker 2: is trading for Yannis is obviously accepting that risk. So 1714 01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:47,599 Speaker 2: that team has to be in my opinion a team 1715 01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:52,600 Speaker 2: that maybe is a little bit lower on the visibility spectrum, 1716 01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,800 Speaker 2: Like I don't see the Lakers making this move. How 1717 01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:59,280 Speaker 2: about the Pelicans. I've heard reports that Zion is kind 1718 01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:02,760 Speaker 2: of on the trading, which is an interesting piece that 1719 01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:05,960 Speaker 2: you might get back. And here's the part about it 1720 01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,680 Speaker 2: that makes it very interesting. We're assuming draft capital is 1721 01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,720 Speaker 2: going to be involved in this trade. The Pelicans own 1722 01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,720 Speaker 2: Milwaukee's twenty seven first round pick and swap rights in 1723 01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:18,080 Speaker 2: twenty six because of the Drew Holiday deal. So there's 1724 01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:21,320 Speaker 2: a little synergy there between Milwaukee and New Orleans already 1725 01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:24,200 Speaker 2: with their draft swaps. And then you throw Zion into 1726 01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,160 Speaker 2: the mix, who I read was gonna meet with Joe 1727 01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:30,479 Speaker 2: Dumars very soon about his future with the team. Like, 1728 01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:33,240 Speaker 2: that's a trade that I could see happening, you know, right, 1729 01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,120 Speaker 2: Zion and a first with that swap that they already 1730 01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:38,040 Speaker 2: have in place from the Holiday deal goes back to 1731 01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:42,599 Speaker 2: or goes back to Milwaukee, Milwaukee gets Zion and then 1732 01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,960 Speaker 2: the Pelicans get you. Honest, what do you think about that? 1733 01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,599 Speaker 3: I don't know, Like, listen, you got to command top dollar. 1734 01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:52,320 Speaker 3: That's the first thing sure for Johannis. 1735 01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:55,160 Speaker 2: And I would need a lot more, uh than just 1736 01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:58,120 Speaker 2: a first and Young and Zion because Zion's been so 1737 01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:02,040 Speaker 2: banged up, Like, there's got to be more out there, 1738 01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,920 Speaker 2: because there are numerous teams that would love to have Jannis, 1739 01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:06,160 Speaker 2: love to have this guy. 1740 01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,280 Speaker 3: And that's the thing, man, Like, I get it. Some 1741 01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:12,080 Speaker 3: of the fans are like, it's scary. We don't know 1742 01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:14,160 Speaker 3: what the future is gonna be like without Giannis. We 1743 01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:18,639 Speaker 3: don't know what these like lottery ticket picks are gonna 1744 01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:19,200 Speaker 3: turn into. 1745 01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:22,120 Speaker 6: How high are they gonna be? Who are the actual players? 1746 01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:25,280 Speaker 6: We don't know. But my pushback on that is, well, 1747 01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:25,640 Speaker 6: but you. 1748 01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,640 Speaker 3: Know what it's gonna be like with them? What's the 1749 01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:31,960 Speaker 3: reality gonna be like with Yannis, They're not good enough 1750 01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:35,920 Speaker 3: to win a championship. They don't have Damian Lillard. Even 1751 01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,520 Speaker 3: with Dame, they weren't good enough to win a championship. 1752 01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,519 Speaker 3: So without Dame and now coming back from an Achilles injury, 1753 01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:45,800 Speaker 3: and they don't have picks, Like you need picks to 1754 01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,280 Speaker 3: get players that can make you a whole lot better, 1755 01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:51,400 Speaker 3: they don't have that. So the reality of the Bucks 1756 01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,240 Speaker 3: with Giannis is they're the Westbrook Thunder. 1757 01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:55,760 Speaker 2: That's what they would be. 1758 01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,800 Speaker 3: Katie left in twenty sixteen and the next three seasons, 1759 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,320 Speaker 3: Westbrook averaged a triple double in each of those seasons. 1760 01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:07,040 Speaker 3: He was unbelievable, and they got bounced in the first 1761 01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:10,639 Speaker 3: round every year. That's exactly what happened. And you read 1762 01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:13,160 Speaker 3: up on some of this stuff, I forget. It's almost 1763 01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:16,759 Speaker 3: funny looking at it. It's like, in April of twenty nineteen, 1764 01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:20,479 Speaker 3: Westbrook had a twenty twenty twenty game. Right, He's the 1765 01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,800 Speaker 3: second player in NBA history to record twenty points, twenty 1766 01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:25,360 Speaker 3: rebounds in twenty assists. 1767 01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:27,720 Speaker 2: The other guy is Wilt Chamberlain. 1768 01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,439 Speaker 3: Okay, Westbrook did it in the game against the Lakers, 1769 01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:33,200 Speaker 3: and then later that series they got bounced in five 1770 01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:36,519 Speaker 3: by the Blazers as Dame Is hitting a thirty seven 1771 01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:39,599 Speaker 3: foot step back on Paul George and waven Bye. 1772 01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:40,799 Speaker 2: Bye bye bye. 1773 01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:44,679 Speaker 3: Okc is they lose in the first round again, That's 1774 01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:49,320 Speaker 3: what it would be be honest, going ballistic and being 1775 01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:54,400 Speaker 3: the superstar he is and the Bucks going nowhere, not 1776 01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:58,719 Speaker 3: approaching anywhere significant of a deep playoff run. 1777 01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,000 Speaker 2: Why would you do that? Why? 1778 01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:03,880 Speaker 6: And yeah, the scar the future is scary. 1779 01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:05,559 Speaker 3: We don't know what the draft picks are gonna be, 1780 01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:11,599 Speaker 3: but if your reality is scary, also, I would rather 1781 01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:14,160 Speaker 3: opt for path. 1782 01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,360 Speaker 6: Number two that could lead to prominence. 1783 01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:19,320 Speaker 3: Path number one keeping him although you love him is 1784 01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:24,679 Speaker 3: leading to no prominence. It's not happening, So why would 1785 01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:27,719 Speaker 3: you stick with that instead of maybe being way better? 1786 01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,799 Speaker 3: Like the Thunder with Sga, like the Celtics with Tatum 1787 01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:33,080 Speaker 3: and Brown? Why would you just be like, but we 1788 01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,639 Speaker 3: love Paul Pearson KG, let's just keep them. 1789 01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:37,760 Speaker 2: Where would they be right now if they didn't make 1790 01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:39,719 Speaker 2: that move? Probably nowhere. 1791 01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:44,439 Speaker 5: I always compare team building to like, you know, just 1792 01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:48,160 Speaker 5: because you're dealing with assets and and sometimes you know 1793 01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,840 Speaker 5: the you know, you can look at it like I'm 1794 01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,000 Speaker 5: gonna invest in this area, I'm gonna invest in that 1795 01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:56,200 Speaker 5: area in terms of building a ross route. I look 1796 01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:58,240 Speaker 5: at it almost like real estate. I do this a 1797 01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:01,559 Speaker 5: lot because it helps balance in my brain. And what 1798 01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:03,680 Speaker 5: you're saying makes a lot of sense about Giannis and 1799 01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:05,960 Speaker 5: I agree. You know, this is like when you own 1800 01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,920 Speaker 5: a home in a part of town that was a 1801 01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:11,080 Speaker 5: really good part of town when you bought the house, 1802 01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:14,439 Speaker 5: but then all of a sudden things changed, and now 1803 01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,479 Speaker 5: maybe an area that used to be a little run 1804 01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:21,400 Speaker 5: down across town from you is starting to become gentrified, 1805 01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:27,080 Speaker 5: and for whatever reason, you know, your real estate value 1806 01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:29,439 Speaker 5: is slipping, you know, I mean, yeah, you could stick 1807 01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:34,160 Speaker 5: it out. You could reinvest, you could redo the bathrooms 1808 01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:36,720 Speaker 5: in the kitchen, or you could bite the bullet and say, 1809 01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:39,240 Speaker 5: you know what, we need a wholesale change here. 1810 01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:41,720 Speaker 4: Like we need to get out and. 1811 01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:47,679 Speaker 5: Sell before the market tanks on our side of town 1812 01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:48,719 Speaker 5: and then. 1813 01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:49,800 Speaker 4: Go look elsewhere. 1814 01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:53,120 Speaker 5: You know, maybe, like you said, the investment is back 1815 01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:56,599 Speaker 5: in the draft, and so you go find the worst 1816 01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,600 Speaker 5: house on the best block somewhere else and you renovate 1817 01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:03,679 Speaker 5: your so you can compete with the Joneses. Because where 1818 01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:07,000 Speaker 5: you're at right now, it is this the fallacy of 1819 01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:11,160 Speaker 5: sunk costs. It's like, because we've invested so much here, 1820 01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:16,120 Speaker 5: we can't see living anywhere else than here. And also 1821 01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,439 Speaker 5: change is hard. I don't want to wake up in 1822 01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:20,960 Speaker 5: a different bedroom. I don't want to find a new 1823 01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:24,439 Speaker 5: route to work. I'm you know, it's a well worn groove. 1824 01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:26,840 Speaker 4: At this point. We know what this field is. Like. 1825 01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:30,120 Speaker 5: We got we got Yannis in the off season, you know, 1826 01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:33,639 Speaker 5: playing a little bit internationally doing some commercials for us. 1827 01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:37,000 Speaker 5: You know, he comes back and hope springs eternal when 1828 01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:40,000 Speaker 5: the new season begins in Summer League starts and like 1829 01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:43,800 Speaker 5: you know it's all it's all now, wrote like you 1830 01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:46,400 Speaker 5: know what it's gonna look like here after year in Milwaukee. 1831 01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:48,439 Speaker 4: But it doesn't mean it's good. 1832 01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,720 Speaker 5: It doesn't mean that your asset value isn't slipping, and 1833 01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:54,320 Speaker 5: it doesn't mean that if you don't get out now 1834 01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:59,479 Speaker 5: while the market's still relatively high. Although slipping, it doesn't 1835 01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:03,439 Speaker 5: mean that the future is bright. Yeah, And look, certain 1836 01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:06,040 Speaker 5: situations they force your hand, like what the Lakers are 1837 01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:09,880 Speaker 5: going through with Lebron James. He will retire eventually. I 1838 01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:11,960 Speaker 5: don't know if it's this offseason. I don't know if 1839 01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,200 Speaker 5: it's next offseason. I don't know if it's two off 1840 01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:17,680 Speaker 5: seasons from now. But that that problem is gonna be 1841 01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:21,040 Speaker 5: solved for you, and you know you already knew you 1842 01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:23,800 Speaker 5: were gonna get nothing in return. He's gonna ride off 1843 01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:25,960 Speaker 5: into the sunset on the pony that he rode into 1844 01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:27,719 Speaker 5: La on and that's. 1845 01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:28,080 Speaker 4: Gonna be that. 1846 01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:32,000 Speaker 5: But with Giannis, as difficult as a decision as it 1847 01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:35,040 Speaker 5: is to move from the house that you laid down 1848 01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:37,439 Speaker 5: deep roots and you love your neighbors and you raise 1849 01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:40,439 Speaker 5: your kids in that house. You have to understand the 1850 01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:43,920 Speaker 5: environment around you is changing. You have to understand that 1851 01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:46,920 Speaker 5: your acid value is slipping. You need to get out 1852 01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:50,640 Speaker 5: while the getting's still good. I completely agree with you, 1853 01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:53,080 Speaker 5: but that band aid is really hard to tug on. 1854 01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:56,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we need to get over that. Though change 1855 01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:59,840 Speaker 2: is inevitable everywhere, people are so afraid of it. It's 1856 01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:02,960 Speaker 2: just the only thing that is constant in life is change. 1857 01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:06,960 Speaker 2: So people need to realize that nothing lasts forever and 1858 01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:09,680 Speaker 2: that what's that's what makes you appreciate each moment in 1859 01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:12,720 Speaker 2: the present. Sorry to get all philosophical and deep there, 1860 01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:16,719 Speaker 2: but our layer listener Jeff Beard, and really interesting comment 1861 01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:18,800 Speaker 2: on social media, just now being tag both of us. 1862 01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:20,800 Speaker 2: How about okay, see trading Free. Honest, they've got like 1863 01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:25,200 Speaker 2: nine first round picks. 1864 01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:26,880 Speaker 3: And the thing is, it's not just their picks, everyone 1865 01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:27,439 Speaker 3: else first. 1866 01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:29,439 Speaker 6: It's everybody else's high picks. 1867 01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I'll be honest if they fall short, like, 1868 01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:35,519 Speaker 2: let's just spin it forward. Okay, see Celtics finals, and 1869 01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:37,280 Speaker 2: then the Celtics won't mopped the floor of them like 1870 01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:38,599 Speaker 2: they did to the MAVs last year. 1871 01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:40,479 Speaker 3: That's what I would do. If I was the Oka 1872 01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:45,080 Speaker 3: see brass. Yeah, Oh my gosh, can you imagine Giannis 1873 01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:48,519 Speaker 3: and Sga. Oh, it's like the next five years or whatever. 1874 01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:50,559 Speaker 2: Like good, they're winning a title next year. 1875 01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:53,519 Speaker 3: They might win win this year like they without it, 1876 01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:57,000 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, if they have them, Yes, that could 1877 01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:58,599 Speaker 3: be great comment. 1878 01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:00,599 Speaker 2: Thanks for that comment. That's a good one. 1879 01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:01,520 Speaker 6: Right there. 1880 01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:04,519 Speaker 3: We got Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith 1881 01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:05,799 Speaker 3: FSR betting analyst. 1882 01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:06,920 Speaker 6: I'm Brian No. 1883 01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:10,120 Speaker 3: Use code countdown at BETMGM and you'll receive up to 1884 01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:12,519 Speaker 3: fifteen hundred dollars back in bonus bets if you don't 1885 01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,439 Speaker 3: win your first bet. When you register with BETMGM, you'll 1886 01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:18,400 Speaker 3: get instant access to a variety of parlay selection features, 1887 01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:22,000 Speaker 3: live betting options, signature bets, and the best daily promotions 1888 01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:24,920 Speaker 3: in the business. 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I was thinking, 1907 01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:29,920 Speaker 3: you know, Shack always talks about the others, meaning the 1908 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:34,960 Speaker 3: role players, not the headlining stars, right, and these series 1909 01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:38,679 Speaker 3: could be decided by the others. And I started thinking 1910 01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:41,800 Speaker 3: we might need a separate category for something I'd call 1911 01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:46,400 Speaker 3: the other others. So, like, if you think about a 1912 01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:49,360 Speaker 3: team like let's say the Nuggets, for instance, So their 1913 01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:53,559 Speaker 3: headlining stars are of course Jokic and Jamal Murray, and 1914 01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:56,800 Speaker 3: then you would get to like the premium role players 1915 01:37:56,880 --> 01:38:00,759 Speaker 3: like the others that would be Aaron Gordon and Michael Jor. 1916 01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:04,360 Speaker 3: Then I think you get to the other others, guys 1917 01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:08,080 Speaker 3: like Russell Westbrook, Christian Brown, those type of guys. Right, 1918 01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:11,840 Speaker 3: It's like these series could be decided on that. Well, 1919 01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:15,960 Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about Jokich and Jamal Kawhi and the Beard, right, 1920 01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:19,439 Speaker 3: but this could come down to like Chris Dunn and 1921 01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:23,120 Speaker 3: Derek Jones Junior, like some random dude hitting a big 1922 01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:24,920 Speaker 3: shot in a big moment, right. 1923 01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:26,439 Speaker 2: Like I think it's the same thing with. 1924 01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:31,160 Speaker 3: The Warriors and Rockets Tomorrow Night, where the headliners, of 1925 01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:36,360 Speaker 3: course are Steph Curry, Playoff, Jimmy, it's you know, it's 1926 01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:40,080 Speaker 3: it's gonna be shne Goon right now, it's Van Vliet 1927 01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:43,240 Speaker 3: and the others. It'd be like Dylan Brooks is a 1928 01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:45,960 Speaker 3: role player right now, Draymond Green is a role player. 1929 01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:50,280 Speaker 3: But the other others that'd be like Tarry Eason or 1930 01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:52,840 Speaker 3: like Moses Moody or you know what I mean, like 1931 01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:56,120 Speaker 3: the other others. It could make a big difference in 1932 01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:57,599 Speaker 3: each of these game sevens. 1933 01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:03,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's amazing how when you whittle 1934 01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:10,280 Speaker 5: it down to one game, how important every single aspect is, 1935 01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:14,000 Speaker 5: isn't it. And it's such an obvious thing to say, 1936 01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:16,559 Speaker 5: And it's such an obvious part of sports, but single 1937 01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:19,439 Speaker 5: elimination is the best way to do this. And it 1938 01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:23,479 Speaker 5: drives me crazy that we have to wait, we have 1939 01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:30,680 Speaker 5: to wait out this bloated, I almost exhibition of the 1940 01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:34,720 Speaker 5: sixth game preamble to get to this point. Sometimes, to 1941 01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:38,160 Speaker 5: see evenly matched teams face off in something that really 1942 01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:41,760 Speaker 5: matters in the NBA and Major League Baseball, frankly, it 1943 01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:45,960 Speaker 5: drives me crazy. I think the playoffs should be single elimination. 1944 01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:48,880 Speaker 5: I think it would be way more interesting. I know 1945 01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:53,280 Speaker 5: it won't ever be because TV networks love the inventory. 1946 01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:57,280 Speaker 5: The NBA makes a ton of money off of the postseason, 1947 01:39:57,320 --> 01:40:01,400 Speaker 5: not only domestically but internationally, so I mean, this complaint 1948 01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:04,960 Speaker 5: will fall on deaf ears, but it's amazing how every 1949 01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:07,680 Speaker 5: little factor is turned over. Like, you know, if this 1950 01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:10,839 Speaker 5: was game one, if we were talking you know, Nuggets 1951 01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:13,559 Speaker 5: Clippers game one, do you think we would really be 1952 01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:17,519 Speaker 5: you know, talking about role players or like, you know, 1953 01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:19,439 Speaker 5: defensive strategy, or. 1954 01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:21,680 Speaker 4: We would just we would just be like, yeah, you know, 1955 01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:22,680 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1956 01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:27,120 Speaker 5: The Warriors they got experience, but the Rockets they've got 1957 01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:28,960 Speaker 5: some young upstart talent. 1958 01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:30,799 Speaker 4: We'll see how Van Fleet leads them. 1959 01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:33,920 Speaker 5: All right, coming up next, Like you know, it's like, well, 1960 01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,000 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, we're down to the nitty gritty 1961 01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:39,960 Speaker 5: every single thing matters. Like I wait for these games 1962 01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:42,679 Speaker 5: with baited breath, and I'm interested in watching them today 1963 01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:47,720 Speaker 5: because or and tomorrow because Game sevens actually matter. I 1964 01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:51,439 Speaker 5: love the fact that we're here. I hate the I 1965 01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:53,919 Speaker 5: hate the fact that we had to wait for this arrival. 1966 01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an other other vibes to the Clippers tonight. 1967 01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:01,680 Speaker 2: I think that of all all the teams that I 1968 01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:05,080 Speaker 2: think are playing in their Game seven's today and tomorrow, 1969 01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:08,160 Speaker 2: four of them, I think the Clippers are the one. 1970 01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:11,360 Speaker 2: Like that's the team where I look at Batoom and 1971 01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:17,200 Speaker 2: Bogdanovich as guys that are more I would say key, 1972 01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:20,320 Speaker 2: because I just don't know if the Clippers can go 1973 01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:24,160 Speaker 2: on the road and beat Denver without those guys playing. Well. 1974 01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:28,280 Speaker 2: Now here's the interesting caveat. I think we get a 1975 01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:32,720 Speaker 2: great like do or don't or like damned if you do, 1976 01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:35,679 Speaker 2: Damned if you don't. Situation, if you're the Clippers defense, 1977 01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:40,080 Speaker 2: do you let Jokic just go crazy, right and not 1978 01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:43,559 Speaker 2: let Jamal Murray beat you? Like I think the game 1979 01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:45,840 Speaker 2: plan if I'm cooking up, if I'm Tyler, I'm cooking 1980 01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:49,160 Speaker 2: up a game plan for the Clippers tonight. I'm telling 1981 01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:52,280 Speaker 2: my defenders if there's one thing that you cannot do 1982 01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:55,920 Speaker 2: tonight is you cannot allow Jamal Murray to go for forty. 1983 01:41:56,439 --> 01:42:01,479 Speaker 2: We cannot overcome that. We can overcome Jokic triple double 1984 01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:05,760 Speaker 2: thirty twenty ten. Why he does that every game? And 1985 01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:07,560 Speaker 2: in fact, I think the fifth was like a he 1986 01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:09,600 Speaker 2: had that crazy triple double earlier this season, was like 1987 01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:13,240 Speaker 2: a fifty point or whatever. They lost that game. Jokic 1988 01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:17,679 Speaker 2: going off doesn't kill us. Let him have his do 1989 01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:23,040 Speaker 2: not let the other guy on Denver go crazy for forty, 1990 01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:25,479 Speaker 2: because when he does, that is the death blow for 1991 01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:27,759 Speaker 2: the Clippers tonight. I think the way that they scheme 1992 01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:30,840 Speaker 2: the Clippers, how they scheme this one two punch of 1993 01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:33,479 Speaker 2: Denver is going to be very fascinating tonight. And I 1994 01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:36,000 Speaker 2: think if they allow Jokic to get his and they 1995 01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:38,439 Speaker 2: take away Murray. I think that's the path of victory 1996 01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:39,360 Speaker 2: for lac h. 1997 01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:43,400 Speaker 3: It's interesting you say that because you could look at 1998 01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:46,360 Speaker 3: that in the other series also, where for a couple 1999 01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:49,960 Speaker 3: of games in a row, the Rockets have just been 2000 01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:53,400 Speaker 3: blitzing Steph Curry, They've been doubling Steph Curry, and they're 2001 01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:56,599 Speaker 3: basically like, just don't let him kill us, which. 2002 01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:57,439 Speaker 6: Makes a whole lot of sense. 2003 01:42:57,560 --> 01:43:01,120 Speaker 3: And they're like, hey, if Pudjemski it's a couple of threes, 2004 01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:05,080 Speaker 3: we'll tip our caps, Okay, Like we're just not letting 2005 01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:09,480 Speaker 3: Steph Curry, the greatest shooter ever crush us shooting. 2006 01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:11,080 Speaker 2: The basketball and doing what he does best. 2007 01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:14,240 Speaker 3: And so I love I love the strategy of the 2008 01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:16,880 Speaker 3: whole thing where that's one of the main things. Do 2009 01:43:16,880 --> 01:43:19,960 Speaker 3: you let the stars shine or do you try to 2010 01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:24,000 Speaker 3: limit them? And maybe the role players kill you? Right, Like, 2011 01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:27,759 Speaker 3: it's really interesting as far as that goes how teams 2012 01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:30,400 Speaker 3: attack it. I'll say this also kind of to pivot 2013 01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:35,840 Speaker 3: it a little. The NBA playoff ratings have been really good. Yeah, 2014 01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,000 Speaker 3: and you know me, I love the NBA. So this 2015 01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:39,880 Speaker 3: is gonna seem like I'm taking a shot at the im. 2016 01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:43,519 Speaker 3: Really not it's just to put things in perspective. We 2017 01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:48,240 Speaker 3: know the NFL is king, but it is staggering how 2018 01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:52,400 Speaker 3: huge of a king the NFL is. Where you go back, 2019 01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:54,680 Speaker 3: think of the NBA playoff ratings, they've been strong, they've 2020 01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:57,639 Speaker 3: been solid, they've been good. You compare it to the 2021 01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:02,439 Speaker 3: NFL freaking draft, it's like, oh gosh, that maybe they're 2022 01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:05,320 Speaker 3: not that great, you know, I mean, it's a draft. 2023 01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:08,920 Speaker 3: So this year's NFL draft, Who's the second most viewed 2024 01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:12,800 Speaker 3: NFL draft in history? The twenty twenty COVID draft is 2025 01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:16,599 Speaker 3: number one, So we had the second most viewed NFL 2026 01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:20,160 Speaker 3: draft in history. In total, the twenty twenty five draft 2027 01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:24,559 Speaker 3: averaged seven point five million viewers across all three days. 2028 01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:27,880 Speaker 3: Over all three days, it had seven and a half 2029 01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:33,040 Speaker 3: million viewers. Round one thirteen point six million viewers. And 2030 01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:35,519 Speaker 3: that's what I think, Like, this is the ratings of 2031 01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:43,240 Speaker 3: a draft. They're blowing out playoff ratings. We're talking NBA, NHL, MLB, 2032 01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:47,400 Speaker 3: could be the World Series, NBA Finals, Stanley Cup Final. 2033 01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:50,280 Speaker 2: All that stuff. The draft is killing them. 2034 01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:53,760 Speaker 3: Can you imagine living in a world where, say, like 2035 01:44:53,840 --> 01:45:00,360 Speaker 3: the NBA Draft is significantly outrating NFL playoff games. That's 2036 01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:05,439 Speaker 3: freaking crazy. That's what we have in reverse, that's our 2037 01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:08,120 Speaker 3: reality here. So we always say the NFL is king, 2038 01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:11,000 Speaker 3: but like I feel like we say it with the 2039 01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:14,400 Speaker 3: period when it should be like twenty five exclamation points. 2040 01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:16,559 Speaker 6: When the draft is outrating. 2041 01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:19,800 Speaker 3: Like playoff games, the biggest stage you have, the finals, 2042 01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:21,680 Speaker 3: it's still being outrated. 2043 01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:23,000 Speaker 6: That is crazy to me. 2044 01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:26,240 Speaker 5: And and it you know what, And this is the 2045 01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:30,080 Speaker 5: point I was making earlier, is the the thought process 2046 01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:33,760 Speaker 5: behind Game seven's being so good, but the weight being 2047 01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:37,840 Speaker 5: so exhaustive that what you end up having is a 2048 01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,400 Speaker 5: lot of people missing it. Like you know, you ever 2049 01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:43,559 Speaker 5: you ever get in the ocean and you're trying to 2050 01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:45,720 Speaker 5: catch a wave and you're like, oh, this is a 2051 01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:48,000 Speaker 5: good one, and you start paddling hard on your boogiey 2052 01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,360 Speaker 5: board or maybe your body surfing or I don't know 2053 01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:53,280 Speaker 5: if you're a surfer, but all of a sudden, the 2054 01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:55,439 Speaker 5: wave it just it just gets way from you. It 2055 01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:58,400 Speaker 5: just it's moving too quick. You're moving too slow. You 2056 01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:00,960 Speaker 5: started paddling too late. What it is and you see 2057 01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:03,519 Speaker 5: it crash and you're watching it you're like, oh, no, 2058 01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:05,080 Speaker 5: that was a good one. 2059 01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:09,520 Speaker 4: I feel like there are so many fringe NBA. 2060 01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:14,040 Speaker 5: Fans who actually do like to watch basketball, right, maybe 2061 01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:17,000 Speaker 5: they have an allegiance to the Lakers Lakers get bounced, 2062 01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:20,160 Speaker 5: but they do like basketball. They lose the thread on 2063 01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:23,760 Speaker 5: some of these other series because again they're exhaustive, and 2064 01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:27,080 Speaker 5: then you finally get to, ultimately what's going to be 2065 01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:30,680 Speaker 5: the only game that matters in the series, and you 2066 01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:34,639 Speaker 5: miss the Game seven because you messed up this guy. Oh, 2067 01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:37,639 Speaker 5: I thought that was gonna be tomorrow. I didn't even 2068 01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:40,000 Speaker 5: realize that was onto. Are you kidding me? Oh, I 2069 01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:45,120 Speaker 5: missed the Nuggets. I thought it was on Sunday, you know. 2070 01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:48,880 Speaker 5: Like That's that's my problem with the NBA postseason, and 2071 01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:51,760 Speaker 5: that's the reason why the NFL has been able to 2072 01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:56,160 Speaker 5: capture this audience and then create this urgency. And also 2073 01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:59,400 Speaker 5: the NBA draft. I mean the NBA draft, you have 2074 01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:04,240 Speaker 5: packed players immediately being selected. They could do the same thing, 2075 01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:06,840 Speaker 5: but the problem is there is zero urgency with the 2076 01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:09,960 Speaker 5: regular season and frankly with their postseason, so it. 2077 01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:11,160 Speaker 4: All gets washed out. 2078 01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:15,400 Speaker 5: Whereas every single move these NFL teams make feel so 2079 01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:20,599 Speaker 5: impactful and so needed and necessary. I don't know if 2080 01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:24,120 Speaker 5: they ever are able to span that gap. Brian, I 2081 01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:27,400 Speaker 5: just don't think it's possible because I think the NFL 2082 01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:30,400 Speaker 5: has just created the perfect mousetrap for the time and 2083 01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:33,000 Speaker 5: space we're in from a sports viewership standpoint. 2084 01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never had that problem with the wave. I've 2085 01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:41,080 Speaker 2: never been brave enough to get surfing before. But it's 2086 01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:44,360 Speaker 2: a really good that I can't relate to it. I 2087 01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:46,439 Speaker 2: don't think my body type would go, although it's a 2088 01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:48,280 Speaker 2: better body type now, I guess for surfing. 2089 01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:51,599 Speaker 4: But no, beach now, I know it. 2090 01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:55,559 Speaker 2: You got the prototype now now now, I'll be honest. 2091 01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:56,320 Speaker 4: Now I'm the. 2092 01:47:56,560 --> 01:48:00,240 Speaker 2: Beach bod is beaching. I might have to go down 2093 01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:02,559 Speaker 2: the Ornberger's crib down there in San Diego this summer 2094 01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:04,360 Speaker 2: and showed off for the ladies down there. 2095 01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:08,439 Speaker 3: And so well them they can only they can only 2096 01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:10,160 Speaker 3: take so much eye candy. 2097 01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:11,680 Speaker 2: Over there here. Well, I'm rich right next to you 2098 01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:14,200 Speaker 2: day and that'll be too much. It'll be like double, 2099 01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:16,479 Speaker 2: It'll be like get out. 2100 01:48:16,360 --> 01:48:19,240 Speaker 4: Of Actually that magnifies your success. 2101 01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:21,760 Speaker 5: They'll be like, oh my god, there's Jared Smith and 2102 01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:24,000 Speaker 5: I think that's a beached beluga. 2103 01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:27,920 Speaker 2: Why is this overhead so shiny? I mean, listen, you've 2104 01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:30,200 Speaker 2: got the NFL experience, I don't. So that's what you 2105 01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:32,120 Speaker 2: go that's what you rely on when you're trying to 2106 01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:34,800 Speaker 2: go down there on the beach. Don't tell that to 2107 01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:36,400 Speaker 2: missus Orenburger, though she won't want to be. 2108 01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:38,559 Speaker 4: There. 2109 01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,200 Speaker 2: There's just so many things with the NFL, like the 2110 01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:44,080 Speaker 2: way that I compare the NFL to everything else. There 2111 01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:47,200 Speaker 2: was a scene in The Simpsons where Homer was like 2112 01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:49,840 Speaker 2: on the floor, like running in circles, and it's just 2113 01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:53,920 Speaker 2: like a never ending cycle. We talk about the NFL 2114 01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:59,599 Speaker 2: so much. There is no off season. It does not exist. 2115 01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:03,000 Speaker 2: The super Bowl is in February March, and by the way, 2116 01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:05,080 Speaker 2: I would not be shocked if the Super Bowl pushes 2117 01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:07,880 Speaker 2: towards the end of February in a couple years, Like 2118 01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:11,080 Speaker 2: we're gonna get this eighteen game season, and we're gonna 2119 01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:12,880 Speaker 2: get the schedule that's gonna get spaced out a little 2120 01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:15,439 Speaker 2: bit with two bye weeks that's coming, and the super 2121 01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:17,280 Speaker 2: Bowl is gonna be end of February, I would say, 2122 01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:20,280 Speaker 2: within the next decade, So you're gonna have a situation 2123 01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:26,160 Speaker 2: where it's literally seamless February, Super Bowl, March, free agency, April, Draft, May, 2124 01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:29,320 Speaker 2: Mini camp, June you get a little a little bit 2125 01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:31,040 Speaker 2: of a rest bit in June, and then July right 2126 01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:33,839 Speaker 2: back to training camp, like it just does not end. 2127 01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:37,439 Speaker 2: And that's what they want. They want you to be 2128 01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:39,920 Speaker 2: talking about the NFL year round. The NBA does not 2129 01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:43,040 Speaker 2: have that. The NBA has Summer League. You get a 2130 01:49:43,080 --> 01:49:45,360 Speaker 2: little bit of a buzz, and then you get August 2131 01:49:45,439 --> 01:49:47,880 Speaker 2: September and it's the nothing burger and no one really 2132 01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:50,280 Speaker 2: even cares. I would say in October, November until we 2133 01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:52,080 Speaker 2: really get to the I would say end of the year, 2134 01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:54,839 Speaker 2: New Year's time is really when the NBA steam starts 2135 01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:57,200 Speaker 2: to pick up. You get this four or five month 2136 01:49:57,240 --> 01:49:59,400 Speaker 2: gap in a lot of these sports where it's just 2137 01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:03,680 Speaker 2: nobody cares. That's not That's where the NFL wins. The 2138 01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:07,080 Speaker 2: NFL is the only sport, major sport, of the four 2139 01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:10,320 Speaker 2: major ones here in this country that are year round 2140 01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:14,000 Speaker 2: sports twenty four seven, three, six five, it's the only 2141 01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:17,280 Speaker 2: sport that has that. Okay, we're gonna have to go quick, 2142 01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:23,280 Speaker 2: but I cannot let this audio not be played on 2143 01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:27,400 Speaker 2: this show. Okay, sacrifice time and rapid fire for this. Okay, 2144 01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:29,080 Speaker 2: it's worth it over here. 2145 01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:33,240 Speaker 3: So you know, going back to Yannis for a second. 2146 01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:35,920 Speaker 3: Remember when the Pacers beat. 2147 01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:40,200 Speaker 2: The Bucks to close them out in game six, right, 2148 01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:45,519 Speaker 2: and Tyrese Halliburton's dad went on the court and he 2149 01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:48,160 Speaker 2: got in front of Yannis and he's celebrating. 2150 01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:51,320 Speaker 3: He's tawning, Yannis. You know that hole back and forth. 2151 01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:55,439 Speaker 3: I have to play you. This is from Papa Halle, right, 2152 01:50:55,720 --> 01:50:59,360 Speaker 3: Papa Halliburton. His name is John, the father of Tyrese. 2153 01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:05,240 Speaker 3: So John Halliburton. He was interviewed by TMJ four. Okay, 2154 01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:10,800 Speaker 3: and this is what he said he was doing when 2155 01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:12,840 Speaker 3: he was standing in front of Giannis. 2156 01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:17,200 Speaker 2: Okay. This is John Halliburton's account of what went down. 2157 01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:19,679 Speaker 8: It might have seemed like I was looking at him, 2158 01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:20,360 Speaker 8: but I really was. 2159 01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:21,919 Speaker 4: I was looking through him. 2160 01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:23,639 Speaker 2: That's how it was in the moment. 2161 01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:25,680 Speaker 8: I know, it looked like we were looking like I 2162 01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:29,000 Speaker 8: would stay him down, you know, But it wasn't like. 2163 01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:33,360 Speaker 3: That, right, just looking through him. That is at new 2164 01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:36,200 Speaker 3: I hope, I hope this works out because here's the deal, 2165 01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:39,840 Speaker 3: Like Jared, this, when you're on the beach with rich 2166 01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:42,800 Speaker 3: this might come in handy, right, Like if you happen 2167 01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:46,040 Speaker 3: to be with your girl, your wife, your significant other, whatever, 2168 01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:49,880 Speaker 3: and you get busted looking at the booty model in 2169 01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:54,920 Speaker 3: front of you. You know, No, I was looking through her, 2170 01:51:55,439 --> 01:52:00,200 Speaker 3: like look at this courteous beach right like what I 2171 01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:03,640 Speaker 3: can't believe he said that he's looking through Yahnest, not 2172 01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:07,719 Speaker 3: like tawning in his face exactly. It was the PACER's crowd. 2173 01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:09,960 Speaker 3: I was trying to pump that what what is he 2174 01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:10,960 Speaker 3: talking about? 2175 01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:17,040 Speaker 5: This is uh the ultimate expression of trying to get 2176 01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:22,880 Speaker 5: the toothpaste out of the back of it. I mean, listen, buddy, 2177 01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:27,040 Speaker 5: there's nothing that you can say that's gonna undo that. 2178 01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:30,800 Speaker 5: I appreciate the effort, though, you know what I mean, 2179 01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:33,840 Speaker 5: like clever, Yeah, very clever. 2180 01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,320 Speaker 2: You know whatever reminds me of remember in Zuelander at 2181 01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:38,759 Speaker 2: the end of the movie when they're like it's in 2182 01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:42,760 Speaker 2: the computer and they're like actually trying to like go 2183 01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:47,320 Speaker 2: inside of the computer. Like sometimes literal Larry comes in 2184 01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:49,800 Speaker 2: and it's just too much for us to handle. That 2185 01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:52,360 Speaker 2: was a literal Larry situation. No, no, honey, I was 2186 01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:54,880 Speaker 2: looking through her right exactly. 2187 01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:55,559 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2188 01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:58,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's a new one right there, man. I love 2189 01:52:58,840 --> 01:52:59,960 Speaker 2: that whole love that account. 2190 01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:03,479 Speaker 3: Or We've got rich Orenberger, Penn State All American, We've 2191 01:53:03,479 --> 01:53:07,120 Speaker 3: got shared Smith FSR betting analyst I'm Brian know shortly 2192 01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:09,200 Speaker 3: after the show, our podcast will be going up. If 2193 01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:11,160 Speaker 3: you missed anything on today's show, be sure to check 2194 01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:14,040 Speaker 3: it out. 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Shout out 2214 01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:12,639 Speaker 3: to our guy Saga on digital posting our clips. 2215 01:54:12,640 --> 01:54:13,200 Speaker 6: That's a great job. 2216 01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:14,360 Speaker 2: Appreciate his hard work. 2217 01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:18,799 Speaker 3: Top of the hour up on game We've got LeVar Arrington, 2218 01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:21,840 Speaker 3: We've got TJ. Hushman, Zada, We've got Plaxico Burst. 2219 01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:24,360 Speaker 2: They are ready. They're warming up in the bullpen right now. 2220 01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:27,479 Speaker 3: And trust me, even that scary, right you think about 2221 01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:30,040 Speaker 3: the baseball, you go cut to the bullpen, you see 2222 01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:32,120 Speaker 3: LeVar warming up in the bullpen, You're. 2223 01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:33,680 Speaker 2: Like, holy cow, he's bringing gas. 2224 01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:37,200 Speaker 3: You know they'll be with you in less than ten 2225 01:54:37,480 --> 01:54:39,760 Speaker 3: minutes from now. Keep it locked right here on Fox 2226 01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:42,160 Speaker 3: Sports Radio, we got some picks to make. 2227 01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:42,840 Speaker 6: Let's do it. 2228 01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:50,200 Speaker 2: Rampant fire, all right, shared. 2229 01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:54,120 Speaker 3: We start with you with something that you like today, tomorrow, whatever, 2230 01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:56,200 Speaker 3: this whole weekend. I guess you could do this whole 2231 01:54:56,240 --> 01:54:58,520 Speaker 3: week if you wanted to. Just before next Saturday, what 2232 01:54:58,520 --> 01:54:59,760 Speaker 3: do you have, Yeah, let's. 2233 01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:01,080 Speaker 2: Just focused on this weekend. 2234 01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:01,240 Speaker 4: Though. 2235 01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:04,520 Speaker 2: I do think the Game seven, right, the two best 2236 01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:07,320 Speaker 2: words in sports not named Super Bowl Game seven. We 2237 01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:10,040 Speaker 2: got three picks for Game seven hockey and two loops 2238 01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:12,720 Speaker 2: We'll start on the ice under five and a half 2239 01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:15,040 Speaker 2: here with the Apps and the Stars. I mean, I 2240 01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:16,880 Speaker 2: know there's been a lot of goals in this series. Actually, 2241 01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:19,840 Speaker 2: the NFL playoffs so far has been goal heavy, but 2242 01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:24,000 Speaker 2: NHL Game seven's to the under have been a trend. 2243 01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:26,680 Speaker 2: All four of them went under last year, eleven and 2244 01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:28,960 Speaker 2: three over the last three years. I think that one 2245 01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:30,440 Speaker 2: stays under the five and a half. All right, let's 2246 01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:32,080 Speaker 2: go to the NBA. Now, I'll give you two sides. 2247 01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:34,640 Speaker 2: We kind of talked about him already dog day here 2248 01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:36,680 Speaker 2: on the show. I'm taking the Clippers plus one and 2249 01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:39,840 Speaker 2: a half tonight against Nuggets. I think they're the better team. 2250 01:55:39,920 --> 01:55:42,640 Speaker 2: I think the toom really showed you something. The bench 2251 01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:45,280 Speaker 2: points Bogdanovic as well, and I think Harden comes up big, 2252 01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:47,640 Speaker 2: and I'll go Warriors. I'll buy a point though. Plus 2253 01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:49,840 Speaker 2: three and a half minus one twenty three is a 2254 01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:53,040 Speaker 2: key number in basketball. It's a cheap hook. So I'll 2255 01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:55,320 Speaker 2: take Warriors plus three and a half, Clippers plus one 2256 01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:57,280 Speaker 2: and a half, Stars as under five and a half. 2257 01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:01,280 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, we have some cross over here, starting 2258 01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:04,480 Speaker 5: with the Clippers plus one and a half. James Harden 2259 01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:08,200 Speaker 5: has come alive in Game six. I think they close 2260 01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:10,320 Speaker 5: out the show against the Nuggets. 2261 01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:13,480 Speaker 4: Warriors, Houston. Give me the Warriors plus two and a half. 2262 01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:15,920 Speaker 4: Steph has found his group from the deep. 2263 01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:22,400 Speaker 5: I like the Warriors chances with all their postseason playoff experience. 2264 01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:23,920 Speaker 4: Plus you how Jimmy. 2265 01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:26,680 Speaker 5: Butler in the postseason it was well, no stranger to 2266 01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:29,480 Speaker 5: game sevens, no stranger to playing well in game sevens. 2267 01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:31,920 Speaker 5: And then give me the Calves to win big at home. 2268 01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:35,480 Speaker 5: Their defense at home has been locked down. Minus eight 2269 01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:38,440 Speaker 5: and a half is a lot to cover up, but 2270 01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:41,000 Speaker 5: I think they do. So Clippers plus one and a half, 2271 01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:43,120 Speaker 5: Warriors plus two and a hook, and give me the 2272 01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:45,000 Speaker 5: Calves minus eight and a half. 2273 01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:50,040 Speaker 2: All right, Okay, so let's start with the Warriors. And 2274 01:56:50,120 --> 01:56:52,760 Speaker 2: I think in good faith, Rich, we both like the 2275 01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:55,880 Speaker 2: Warriors plus two and a half. But if Jared's getting 2276 01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:57,680 Speaker 2: plus three and a half, we gotta get plus three 2277 01:56:57,720 --> 01:57:02,160 Speaker 2: and a half. Two right, right, Okay, it's a cheap 2278 01:57:02,600 --> 01:57:05,720 Speaker 2: because it's plus two and a half minus one oh two, Yo, 2279 01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:10,680 Speaker 2: it's only eighteen point through that key number of three, 2280 01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:12,720 Speaker 2: which is like I think. 2281 01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:16,720 Speaker 3: That is important, Like it might swell to that anyway, 2282 01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:18,520 Speaker 3: but for the purposes of we got to lock it 2283 01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:21,280 Speaker 3: in right now. We'll both ill go plus three and 2284 01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:24,680 Speaker 3: a half in the water's great, you know, plus three 2285 01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:25,600 Speaker 3: and a half sounds good. 2286 01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:30,000 Speaker 2: I'll go with Steph Curry. Give me over five and 2287 01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:35,640 Speaker 2: a half of cysts. He was taking some horrible shots yesterday. 2288 01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:38,560 Speaker 3: And the Rockets are going to continue to double him 2289 01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:41,080 Speaker 3: blitz him, and I think he's gonna be a whole 2290 01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:42,520 Speaker 3: lot smarter in Game seven. 2291 01:57:42,560 --> 01:57:44,880 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna get some of his teammates involved. 2292 01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:49,280 Speaker 3: He actually did have some nice passes yesterday because. 2293 01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:50,800 Speaker 2: I was on his assists yesterday. 2294 01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:55,400 Speaker 3: There were some air balls, bricks like what are we doing? 2295 01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:58,600 Speaker 3: Type shots, and I think that's gonna be. It has 2296 01:57:58,640 --> 01:58:01,240 Speaker 3: to be better than it was last game. So I 2297 01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:04,000 Speaker 3: think Steph is still gonna look for opportunities to pass. 2298 01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:06,680 Speaker 3: I think the supporting cast is gonna be better than 2299 01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:07,760 Speaker 3: it was last night. 2300 01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:10,400 Speaker 2: I don't think it can be worse, honestly, So give me. 2301 01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:12,800 Speaker 3: Over five and a half assists for Steph Curry and 2302 01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:15,000 Speaker 3: then I'll look for Game one tomorrow. 2303 01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:16,560 Speaker 2: Pacers at the Calves. 2304 01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:21,440 Speaker 3: The Calves I think are going to punish Indiana on 2305 01:58:21,480 --> 01:58:24,720 Speaker 3: the boards. They have a significant advantage. I'm gonna go 2306 01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:28,240 Speaker 3: with Jared Allen. I'll go over ten and a half rebounds. 2307 01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:32,440 Speaker 3: I think it's tough between Jared Allen and Mobiley. They're 2308 01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:36,480 Speaker 3: both gonna eat on the glass, but man, they do 2309 01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:39,960 Speaker 3: have a pretty big advantage there. So I like Jared Allen. 2310 01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:42,120 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be a vacuum cleaner on the glass. 2311 01:58:42,160 --> 01:58:44,840 Speaker 3: Give me over ten and a half for Jared Allen 2312 01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:46,560 Speaker 3: in that Pacers Calves game. 2313 01:58:46,840 --> 01:58:49,360 Speaker 2: Tomorrow, like that one, I'm about a bonus pick for 2314 01:58:49,400 --> 01:58:49,840 Speaker 2: the Derby. 2315 01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:51,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's hear it. 2316 01:58:52,200 --> 01:58:56,000 Speaker 2: Sovereignty five to one now the paramutual one. It might 2317 01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:58,760 Speaker 2: not be five to one at post, but this is 2318 01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:02,360 Speaker 2: the horse that I have heard some very positive things about. 2319 01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:04,560 Speaker 2: I know Journalism is the favorite, and of course we're 2320 01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:08,160 Speaker 2: all journalists. Why aren't we betting journalism. I don't like 2321 01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:10,040 Speaker 2: betting the favorite in the Derby. There's so many horses. 2322 01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:11,640 Speaker 2: I prefer to have a little bit of, you know, 2323 01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:15,600 Speaker 2: long shot odds. I do like Seamus's look on the 2324 01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:18,200 Speaker 2: Japanese horses. There's two of them in this race, Luxer 2325 01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:20,560 Speaker 2: Cafe and then Admired Daytona. I think one of those 2326 01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:22,600 Speaker 2: horses might finish in the top three as well. So 2327 01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:25,760 Speaker 2: how about an exact the box with Luxer Cafe, Sovereignty 2328 01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:29,520 Speaker 2: and Baeza. Another long shot with Flaviy and Pratt on 2329 01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:33,120 Speaker 2: the irons there really excited about the derby today. I 2330 01:59:33,280 --> 01:59:37,360 Speaker 2: just hope for selfish reason, Sandman does well, and not 2331 01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:40,440 Speaker 2: only because of Metallica, because of one of my favorite movies, 2332 01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:42,360 Speaker 2: Training Day or 2333 01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:46,000 Speaker 3: Denzel He's got to go take money from the Sandman 2334 01:59:46,400 --> 01:59:47,920 Speaker 3: love that aspect as well.