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Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. Six years started at Quinnipiac, transferred to RUT

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Speaker 1: I know that that stuff's like red meat for fans

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Speaker 1: I think he's a little inconsistent. Went his back, kind

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Speaker 1: But uh, but did you hear that? What are they doing? Matt?

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Speaker 1: Matt's going to take care of business and so that

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Speaker 1: guy's dead now everybody, So blood neutralizes the word where

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Speaker 1: you I'm going to push back here on everybody. What

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Speaker 1: what what does everybody have against Robbie Anderson? So you

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 1: at Jilette Stadium, and the news is coming fast and

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Speaker 1: furious for the other teams right now. I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: I mean, things are happening here at Ailette Stadium, and

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Speaker 1: this is more like it usually is, isn't it this? Yea?

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Speaker 1: This is this is more like normal. Last year was

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Speaker 1: Jags aren't signing kind of players we signed last year. Yea.

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Speaker 1: You know, they've gone even farther. But I'm seeing a

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Speaker 1: lot of the same Twitter chokes of backing up the

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Speaker 1: brinks truck and I've just signed with the Jags and

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Speaker 1: those kind of things. Yeah, but um, you know, so

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Speaker 1: there is news coming out people that they've resigned a

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Speaker 1: big you know what a trade. I'm glad you. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you caught yourself a notable trade. I'm glad. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's because the Patriots were involved. Other than that, well,

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Speaker 1: I think everyone's favorite blonde haired outside linebacker Chase Winovich

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Speaker 1: He had a knee injury in twenty twenty. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: he didn't play that much last year. Six starts fourteen games,

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Speaker 1: and it was a player for player. Yeah, similar two guys.

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Speaker 1: Did the Patriots get better, even if it's incremental, I

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Speaker 1: so obviously the biggest news this week is J. C.

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Speaker 1: And don't forget it's West Coast time. And I don't

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Speaker 1: often than not when a guy, you know, just looking

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Speaker 1: at this timeline to me, Jacksonville was probably looking at

425
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Speaker 1: it and saying, we're probably gonna have to do something

426
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 1: with Miles, Jack. But let's make sure that we get

427
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Speaker 1: these guys, because they signed like three or four guys yesterday.

428
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 1: Let's make sure we get the guys that we that

429
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,399
Speaker 1: we think we're going to get that we're in on,

430
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 1: and then if we do, we'll have to let them go. Yep. Yeah,

431
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:22,159
Speaker 1: So all right, A five five pats five hundred is

432
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Speaker 1: the A Sticket Outline web Radio at pagris dot com.

433
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,120
Speaker 1: Other stuff going around the league. Um, you know, as

434
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 1: you said, some other teams are making some big trade

435
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 1: JC Jackson over to the Chargers. Yeah that's ah, Paul.

436
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 1: What did you think about if those numbers are right?

437
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 1: You know, um on Jackson five years eighty two a

438
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 1: little less than I thought, just like just a little

439
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 1: bitch a million. Yeah, I see, I said, I still

440
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 1: think they should have signed him. Well, yeah, you wanted

441
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,160
Speaker 1: a franchise for that, well, or signed clearly they didn't

442
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 1: want a franchise and for seventeen point three, so they're

443
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 1: not going to sign them to a five year deal

444
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 1: for sixteen point five. No, I know, but like like

445
00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 1: and you, I would have done either one. I would

446
00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 1: have done either one. Right, No, and you were very

447
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 1: consistent with that and that, you know, I like from

448
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 1: back in like October, right, you were very consistent with that.

449
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,199
Speaker 1: You haven't wavered, no, and I package that I keep

450
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 1: them both. But anyway, yeah, he hasn't wavered. Yeah, we'll

451
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 1: see on Thursday when you guys all to yourself. Where

452
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 1: you going, I'm off I'm off? Oh yeah, um yeah.

453
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 1: So with with jay Z, Jacks, Peter Kiss play, there

454
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 1: were so many. I don't know if the Yeah, they're him,

455
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 1: they're in. They're in a play in game. Oh yeah,

456
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 1: they play tomorrow right then? Yeah, you're right that I

457
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: forgot about that. Yeah, they're already in. Could you play

458
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: in game two? I hate when they call it the

459
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: first four I thought that, Um, I thought that if

460
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: you one year conference, you're automatically in. They are, But no,

461
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 1: they have to play in. They're in. That's that's in

462
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: the turn To me, that's not I agree with you. Yeah,

463
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Yeah, it's still to me, it's

464
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 1: a sixty sixty fourteen. I still consider it a sixty fourteen.

465
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Speaker 1: Providence is in there? Where do you draw the line

466
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: one game? If you had a player in time, it's

467
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: been thirty two, forty eight, fifty three, sixty four, and

468
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 1: sixty eight. But I still consider it sixty four now.

469
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 1: But if you have to do a play in game,

470
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: then you didn't get an automatic bit. You did get

471
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: an automatic bit. If they didn't get an automatic bit,

472
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be in the playing game. I know what

473
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: you're saying, But today I agree with you. That's still

474
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 1: a prove it game. I agree with you, it's approve it, right,

475
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,239
Speaker 1: those are the rules. I know it's to know, but

476
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:31,199
Speaker 1: I thought playing games for only the at large pete. No,

477
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 1: there's there's two of those, and there's two for sixteen seeds. Yeah,

478
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 1: that are automatics. That's the way they do it. Anyway,

479
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 1: it's it's coctas. Anyway, we're talking football here, Um, football's time. Yeah.

480
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 1: The JC Jackson thing, what I found kind of interesting

481
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 1: is it was it was a little less mind. Like

482
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Speaker 1: I thought, probably like seventeen or eighteen. You got sixteen

483
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: and a half. So I'm not gonna sit there's wow,

484
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: he signed right away and that's all he got. No,

485
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: he banked, he got he got a huge set, he

486
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 1: got a huge contract. A lot of people are like

487
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 1: killing the Patriots for not like, how can they not

488
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: go They told you the week before when they didn't

489
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: franchise him they weren't willing to go to seventeen point three, right, Yeah,

490
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 1: like for eight hundred thousand, you think that that was

491
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Speaker 1: going to be the difference. Plus, as Mike said, the

492
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Speaker 1: forty guaranteed over a five year Like they were telling you,

493
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: seventeen point three was more than they were comfortable paying. Yeah,

494
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: so sixteen and a half was still too much. Yeah,

495
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: like the difference between you know, less than a million

496
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: is not gonna you know, change change that. And again

497
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 1: you've been very consistent. You wanted to keep him, you

498
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: thought they should have gone. I just look at the league,

499
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: and there aren't Like, he's not a shutdown corner. I'm

500
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Speaker 1: admitting that to all those people that are saying he's

501
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: not the Roe Reevers and he's not kill him. Yes

502
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 1: he's not. There aren't a lot of them. But you

503
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: need somebody, and you're gonna have to pay somebody, and

504
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 1: when they get even to his level, you're gonna have

505
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 1: to pay the Yeah, it's like with quarterbacks, like you

506
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 1: might not want to have to pay a starting quarterback

507
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: kind of money you pay like the Vikings just guaranteed

508
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: thirty five millions her cousins. But that's the going, right,

509
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: Matt Jones just stays like an average quarterback. Yeah, it

510
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: gets to his fifth year, he gets there. I'm just saying.

511
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: I said, if he gets there to his fifth year

512
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: and he's an average quarterback, he's gonna get paid by somebody. Yeah,

513
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: you know right, he's gonna get paid. And again, like

514
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, I bring up that example again, like he's

515
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: made an incredible career out of being an average quarterback.

516
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: All of the national UH heavyweights were wrong on the

517
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory to Dallas thing. Evidently he's signing with Denver.

518
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory signed a big all said he was staying

519
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: in Dallas. Yeah, five year. Yeah. Tell you that that

520
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 1: AFC West is an arms race, right, yeah, it is.

521
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,719
Speaker 1: It is an arms race. They are just loading up

522
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: charge repete against each JC and Mac. Yeah. I wonder

523
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Speaker 1: if that puts them out on on von Miller. I

524
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 1: hear some interesting stuff like Miller would still maybe considering.

525
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that the team, the odd team out

526
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Speaker 1: might be Kansas. I heard Tyrone Matthew is leaving. Yeah,

527
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: they're not going to resign him. He's available, you know. Interesting,

528
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: So I mean that that's gonna be a wild of him.

529
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Speaker 1: Who would you have rather had wild and crazy Tyrone Matthew, Yes?

530
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: Or d mac Tyro Matthew. Yeah. I mean I mean

531
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: that's even though, like that's a tough one. I think

532
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 1: they're a little bit different kind of players. But and

533
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Speaker 1: you and you're gonna have him one year? Yeah? I

534
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: think if you if you tell me, I can have

535
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: him for at least three years, I'll take because that's

536
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: what you'd be signing him for. Yeah, you wouldn't be

537
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: signing him for one year. He's a he's younger. Yep, Um,

538
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: he's more of a playmaker. I think he's more of

539
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: a playmaker. I don't like he seems to have been

540
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: a leader at Kansas City. Like you know, I'm not

541
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: so much worried about that aspect of But I want

542
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: a guy I am, I said, not so much. I

543
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: want to start with who's going to be an impactful

544
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: player on the field. The off field stuff is great,

545
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: but I want you to be an impact player on

546
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: the field first. Yeah, and I think he would have

547
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: been more of a well an asset. Has he signed

548
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: with anyone? He hasn't, but the fact that the cross

549
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: him off the Patriots ain't signing there. Yeah, why so

550
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: he could be the fourth safety? Well maybe maybe he's not. Maybe,

551
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: you know, can you play corner? Could be in a

552
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: four man rotation. That's why I bring up the would

553
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: you rather have? Maybe now you you trade Kyle Dugger.

554
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe he's like if you had, if

555
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: you had, if you had Phillips and Matthew as your

556
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: two starters and Dugger like, maybe Dugger is a potential

557
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: like down the road, like mid season trade prospect if

558
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't kind of pan out the way you think,

559
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: or if not, you keep him. Paul's like, I don't

560
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: want to He's one of the five guys play. I

561
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: don't want to trade him. Yeah, I mean I don't

562
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: want to trade him either. But I'm saying like I

563
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,719
Speaker 1: don't want Tyron Matthew instead of Kyle Dugger. I'll take

564
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: Kyle Dugger. I know that might shock people with me

565
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: being positive on a young Patriot player. It is Matthew

566
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: was knocking on the door and he's coing on his

567
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: fourth team. Like, I don't think Tyrn Matthew is Jordan

568
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: Poy or Micah Hyde. I'll take those two over what

569
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: I have, you know, as older safeties. Tyron Matthews not

570
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: that guy. No way, I'll take too. You would take

571
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: Devin mccordy. Yeah, Now, I wouldn't necessarily done the contract

572
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: that they did for Devin mccordy, like pushing more. You know,

573
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: these void years are ridiculous. We look forget about the Okay,

574
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: so let's just say that you haven't done the contract

575
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: yet with mccordy, because I get it, you're not gonna

576
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: pay Matthew and mccordy. But what if it was one

577
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: or the other. You know, if I think this is

578
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: an argument to be made that mccordy is more valuable

579
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: with the Patriots than Matthew would be coming in really, yeah, Okay,

580
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: I don't think Tyron Matthew is, you know, in his prime. Okay,

581
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: I think he's a good player, but I don't think

582
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: he's in this prime, much like I know mcquody's not

583
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: in this prime, right. I watched him the last whole Thanks,

584
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: the guy who stays on his own team is more

585
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: valuable than so that. Eric. I caught that too. I

586
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: caught that too. I didn't want to go down that road.

587
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: Not the same I didn't want to go down that road.

588
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: I get it. That's that's thanks, that's stupid. It's funny

589
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: for you, normally the most humorless guy. I just said

590
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't want Tyron Matthew. He looked at me like,

591
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: I just like, you know, ate an onion or something.

592
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: So that was funny for the most humorless guy in

593
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: the show. But wow, but it's not the same. He

594
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: don't get mad at me. I didn't force you to

595
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: write the same the useless analysis piece today, So don't

596
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: get mad at me. Take your anger out on the

597
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: person that you're just supposed to take it. Who's harumpan.

598
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: Now Paul's mad because I made him right today. It's

599
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: not mad for that one. It's we gotta talk, Okay.

600
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: I do get I'm curious. I'm getting two thousand and

601
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: five defense vibe, and that's I was just curious to

602
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: your guys's opinion on that one where it was like,

603
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: all the sudden you went from thy law and and

604
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: then dween Starks. But you know, you go, well, it

605
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: was just a period where you had a bunch of

606
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: guys who have been around for a while. Bruski stroke

607
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: obviously that without you didn't see that coming. But Fiffer,

608
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: you know, I think Johnson was gone at that point.

609
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know. I'm just I'm getting

610
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: the vibe of these positions at cornerback and linebacker that

611
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're gonna look out there and

612
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: you're like Monty Bisle, like Chad Brown, like you know,

613
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: all of a sudden. It just goes from like a

614
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 1: defense that is established and you're like, God, I love

615
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: these guys that trust him to Like, I guess we're

616
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: gonna try to do it with this new group. Now.

617
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: That's what it feels like. I think. I think it's

618
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: not just the Patriots, but you get you get caught

619
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: in positions in a certain position, you know, like because

620
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: of the cycle, and it's like, oh, this is the

621
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: year that we're going to be short here, and you

622
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: just got to work through it, you know, you know,

623
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: because like you said, during the Dynasty, that happened and

624
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: they just had to work through it. I I remember

625
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: the Monty Bis Chad Brown era. I remember Chad Brown

626
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: being folded up like a folding chair in Denver and

627
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: Monnie Bisel, you know, couldn't play. They didn't I couldn't play.

628
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: It was awful. Chad Brown was a good player who

629
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: was passed this right and then they kind of outside

630
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: linebacker and they had him like inside the Babel was

631
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: moving inside, had a linebacker drives around in a Mini Cooper.

632
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: I mean that was ridiculous. How do you remember, Yeah, yeah, hey,

633
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: how do you remember that? And be I remember that?

634
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,239
Speaker 1: I just struck me. It's like, why wouldn't you want

635
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: to be comfortable? What you think he wasn't comfortable? And

636
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: a Mini Cooper, Well, the car is not mini like

637
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: for he's not like driving like a clown car now,

638
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: but they're small cars, big enough for a linebacker to

639
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: fit in. I don't know, this is what I was

640
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: looking for when I asked about two thousand and five,

641
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 1: what was Chad Brown driving? I just you know, did

642
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: you ask about two thousand and five? Well that was

643
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: where he brought it up, because I think it's a

644
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: great like when you said it, I was like, I

645
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: remember what defense was stacked and it's not really cut.

646
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: But then you started talking talking about some of the

647
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: different pieces that they had, and I was like, huh, yeah,

648
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: it's not you get stuck. It's not all that different. Yeah,

649
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: I mean that's a different like that's what makes football

650
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: great but also more complicated. You have so many pieces

651
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: that you have to you know, take care of every year,

652
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: so you know, it's not like basketball or hockey and

653
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: you know sation yeah yeah, and then you put the

654
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: guys in the Sometimes when you get to a certain

655
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: position group, you know there's a year or two where

656
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: you're kind of stuck. You know, you're in that cycle

657
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: because you can't replenish every position every year, you know,

658
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: especially with what the Pagers are going through. Now, you

659
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: know it's it's there's going to be a position this

660
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: year that they're going to be not good at, you know,

661
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: I mean, and they're gonna have to figure out how

662
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: to hide that. Yeah, And I mean, and I bring

663
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: that up less like you know, one for one player,

664
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: just as like a fan going from these players that

665
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: you've been watching orever that you trust on the high tower,

666
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: like you know, for example, to these new play these

667
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: new guys that you're trying to sell yourself on. Are

668
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: they are they patriots? Ye? Are they going to be

669
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: able to keep it going? Or like you know, is

670
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 1: the magic just happened that they come in? And I mean,

671
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: I think that year was a little bit of a

672
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: of a reminder. But then you know, I also think

673
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: that you look at the turnover on defense, oh nine

674
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: ten those you know, you gotta find these gems like

675
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: you gotta find a Rob Nikovich, you know, you got

676
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: to find a cast off long snapper. Then nobody's talking

677
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: about that all of a sudden knows how to play

678
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: or you and you got to hit the draft out

679
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: of the park. So I mean, I understand right now

680
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: after what happened in Buffalo and how the off season's

681
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: gone and people are like, we need to get better,

682
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: and right now it seems like you're at best tread

683
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: and water what you got. There's time to go. But

684
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: at the same time, like I think it's just shining

685
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: a light on how badly they need to really get

686
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: some players in here. And it's probably the draft, but

687
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: maybe a free agent gem that that nobody's gonna talk

688
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: about and we're gonna you know, maybe it's this guy today,

689
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: Mac mac Wilson. But I think you know, we talked

690
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: about it last show, you know, when they got rid

691
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: of Van noy Um and now they got rid of Winovich.

692
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: What we were saying about that linebacking corps is well again, yeah,

693
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: if they're they're telling us that they agreed, right, But

694
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, as far as getting rid of those guys.

695
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: But like, is mac Wilson gonna play defense? That's the

696
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: question I brought up at the start. Did they trade

697
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: for him to play defense or special teams? Because Fred

698
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: asked at the start of the show are they better

699
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: because of this trade? And I said, well, if tell

700
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: me incremental? Yeah, But I said, tell me is he

701
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: gonna play defense or just special teams? Because if he's

702
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: just playing special teams, I don't think they're better better

703
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: from last year. No, over Winkovich, Like did they trade that? Yeah?

704
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: They don't play the same position, so it's not apples

705
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: to apples. Yeah, Winovich is an outside edge guy and

706
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: Wilson isn't off off the ball inside gap. Yeah, so

707
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: they're not really the same, right. Well, I mean, like,

708
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: and who's to say what the in Avich to Ronnie

709
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: Perkins is gonna be to what Mac Wilson to uh Rayon? Like,

710
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: it's is he better than Jawan Bentley? Because that looks

711
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: like the guy I think that's I think that's an

712
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 1: interesting name to bring up. And is this signal because

713
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 1: if that's the swap that they're that they're not gonna

714
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: go forward, which I'm surprised. I thought that Jawan Bentley

715
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: was going to come back and that was going to

716
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: be the move that everybody's like, they're not gonna change

717
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: the linemaker position. He's not fascinating, you know, like it

718
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: will freak people out but I think Joanni Tavy might

719
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: kind of be that thumper dude anyway. And see, I

720
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: think Bentley is Bentley is smaller than most of those

721
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: guys that he usually has two He's just not um.

722
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: He's not as small as Wilson. Like I like, despite

723
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 1: what I just wrote, I wouldn't be surprised if Bill

724
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: Belichick just says, yeah, yeah, I'm good two hundred thirty

725
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: pind guy. Yeah, I'm gonna pu him in there, like

726
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: talk about going cold Turkey and just completely switching from

727
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: two fifty plus to I don't buy a small I

728
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: only need to see that before I believe that he's

729
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: going to do that. I think he probably feels that

730
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: mac Wilson is a better alternative than a guy like

731
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: to buy um to fill in to play different roles

732
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: and maybe you know, he'll definitely play special teams. I

733
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: think I think that he's looking at that kind of

734
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: a thing, and maybe he feels like with Ronnie Perkins

735
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: and Josh Oocha and some of those guys, he has

736
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: some guys that might factor in on the edges. So

737
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: Winovich was expendable, Let's get some more depth on the inside.

738
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: But like you bring up ray Kuan McMillan. Don't you

739
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: have to expect to see ray Kuan McMillan out there

740
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: at the start of training camp calling the defense, calling

741
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: like and you're like, yeah, what are we doing? Yeah?

742
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: Here we go. Yeah, that's what I kind of expect.

743
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,959
Speaker 1: He could be out there to start the start camp.

744
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: But will he be there at the start of the

745
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: regular season. Well, as long as he's healthy. Yeah, if

746
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 1: he starts camp, that's what he'll feel like. That's well,

747
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: you know, and how many times do you see that change?

748
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: Like when the first thing that we see, you know,

749
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: with a veteran like rookies that they go in and

750
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: out all the time, you know, oh wow, Miles Bryant's

751
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: getting a lot of run today. And you know, I'm

752
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: not making fun of anybody. I'd write it too, but

753
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: when you see like a veteran like ray Kwon McMillan, well,

754
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: I just wonder. I just wonder if coming off the

755
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: knee injury, whether they put him out there to start

756
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: saying okay, let's go, and then they see, boy, he

757
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: really just doesn't have it and oh that could he

758
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Yeah, that could happen. Absolutely. That's

759
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: why I said, if he's healthy. Yeah. I also just

760
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: wonder what's happening on the edges of the defense. I mean,

761
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: I think we've talked playing about the run defense, and

762
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: you know, say what you will about Dante hide Tower,

763
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: but I think he's the last year set the edge

764
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: when he needed to set the edge. I don't know

765
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: who's set in the edge now. I don't know who's

766
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: going to set the edge of the of the side.

767
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: You got Matthew Jude on one side, okay, but you know,

768
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: I just I think there's some holes glaring right now.

769
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: Things that I really think, just from like a basic

770
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: football perspective, you need and you don't have a young,

771
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: tough edge guy right now. You have Jude on And

772
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: that's about it is Ted Carriss not coming back. A

773
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: sneaky kind of loss. That's a little underrated because you

774
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: know that that line was having trouble last year and

775
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: obviously when Trent Brown came back, that help, but it

776
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: also helped when they inserted Carriss at guard. It did. Yeah,

777
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: I think that was a good point of conversation throughout

778
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 1: the year of like you know, maybe one for one,

779
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: maybe you like the skill set of and when you

780
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: a little better. But it just worked better with Ted Carriss,

781
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: whether it's experience or you know, just his you know,

782
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: comfortability within New England. I think it just depends on

783
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: how you feel about a when you if you're pff,

784
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: You're like, well, of course they'd let Ted Carriss walk.

785
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,479
Speaker 1: They've got the best guard in the league and Michael

786
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: and went to playing right, so you know. But but again,

787
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: another you know, conversation Paul and I had is like,

788
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: you know, for for all the positive that you say

789
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: about Michael and when you he's not Logan Mankins. He's

790
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: not a day one walk in. Guess what, I'm playing

791
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: left guard and you're gonna have to drag me out

792
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: of here, Like I mean, for whatever reason, he's moved

793
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: around a little bit um so I like that move.

794
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: And Mike and I did talk about this a little bit,

795
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: and the reason is, like I look at some of

796
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: the things they've done in the last few years and

797
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: I've been like, you don't need to give Shaq Mason

798
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: this big extension. You don't need to franchise tag Joe Tuney, like,

799
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: just get the next guy, like Ted Carriss, was there

800
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 1: a market drop off between Joe Tuney and Ted Carriss

801
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 1: last year, Like did you look at Ted Carris and say, wow,

802
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: they really I'm not saying Joe Tuney's not a better player.

803
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm not being like a Patriots homer and saying wow,

804
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: they were right till that Tuney. No, I'm not saying

805
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: that at all. Joe Tuney's a better player than Ted Carriss.

806
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: But did you look at that spot and say, wow,

807
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: we really miss Joe Tuney at left guard? It doesn't,

808
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: and I don't think you'll miss Ted Carriss at left

809
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: To the layman, it doesn't seem like it was a

810
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: drop off, but like who knows when they go in

811
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: the film room what they know, Like maybe it was

812
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: and we just don't realize it. But I'm just telling you,

813
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. You're right, and I don't I don't

814
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: ever pretend to be an expert on offensive line play.

815
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, Freddie, But when you watched the games,

816
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: did you look at that and say, wow, Ted Carriss

817
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: is getting overwhelmed. They need to make a move there,

818
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: like they're like or when when you was playing, like

819
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: they had some issues there's no question early in the

820
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: year they had something. They also had a lot of

821
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: moving parts. There were guys in and out of the

822
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: lineup constantly early in the year, and once Carris went in.

823
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: I kind of think it was more coincidental than it was,

824
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: you know, as a result of a drastic upgrade between

825
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: Harris stabilization, right. I just think it kind of it

826
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: coincided with the line jelling a little bit, and Carris

827
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: was the beneficiary. I think, O, when you will play,

828
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: he's gonna start somewhere. If Brown comes back, he'll start

829
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: definitely at guard. If Brown doesn't come back and they

830
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: need to replace both, they have a decision. I think, O,

831
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: when you will stay at guard either way, and Haran

832
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: might be the right tackle, and then we'll start to

833
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: look at things. But I don't think a when you

834
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: was a problem. I think he was a good young player.

835
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 1: I don't think he's great. But I like the idea

836
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: of saying, yeah, Ted, Carris did a nice job for

837
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: us last year. Six million a year. Okay, thanks Ted,

838
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: I'm good with that. You know, we're all like, we

839
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: gotta improved where we got improve the line, gott improve cornerback, linebacker,

840
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: and then Bill says we can't improve special teams. Let's

841
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: bring in mac Wilson. Johnny Hecker is available too. I

842
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 1: don't know a punterer move. He's leave the punter alone.

843
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: He's fine. Eric, you you you are very very defensive

844
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: of I get of my special teams, I know, but

845
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: Hecker he's a weapon. I like Bailey. He's our guy

846
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: two years for full what's the guy, the San Jose

847
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: State guy? Oh Arizon, Yeah, the punt god. Yeah, he's

848
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: the guy coming left footed. That's right. I don't need

849
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: an offense anymore, except the punter only plays when you're

850
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: off exactly. Eight five five pass five hundred is the

851
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: a stick at line web radio at Patriots dot com.

852
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: Let's open it up, see what people are thinking about, right, Yeah,

853
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: we'll start with Chris with a T. I A N.

854
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: Can't wait to stop. Christian. Hey, guys, what's happening? Hey?

855
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: Not much over here? Literally, I am. You know. I

856
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: didn't expect expect him to do that much coming off

857
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: the last year, obviously, and I figured Jackson was gone.

858
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: You know my I kind of have like a hope

859
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: and a worry at the same time. You know, the

860
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: hope is that the guys that they signed last year

861
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: obviously get better if they stay here. Um, and then

862
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: the guys that were you know, good last year improved.

863
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 1: My My, my question to you is is the coaching

864
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: in place to do that? Yeah, you have Bill, but

865
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how good Mayo and Steve are And

866
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 1: I have no idea on offense who's who and who's

867
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: doing what and who's good enough to for those guys

868
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: taking step next step. Like if Josh was there, I

869
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: feel a lot better obviously, but he's not, so, you know,

870
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: and I just that's my concern. Like you've dole out

871
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: a ton of money last year, you better get something

872
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: from Joe Husmith this year. Um, I lost all faith

873
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: in Harry. But I'm hoping that guys like uh, you know,

874
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: m Jacoby Buyers and Kendrick Bourne can take another step. Um.

875
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if they fit there seiling it. So

876
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: that's kind of like where I'm coming from, Like I

877
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: didn't expect them to make big moves, but I do

878
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: worry about going into the season, like and they got

879
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: to nail another draft again, like they got to get

880
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: another exactly that might be the most important element out

881
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: of everything that you talked to. Absolutely, they need more

882
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: young players. That that's my concern about what they did

883
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: yesterday is it's great to bring back the band, but

884
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: you know, thirty seven, thirty seven, thirty five, thirty four,

885
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: like they need to get younger, and resigning all of

886
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: your thirty something year old veterans isn't the way to

887
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, And they need Dev back there, Like

888
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: I didn't mind that, Like I I think that I

889
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: love having him there for guys like Dugger, you know,

890
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: um to continue to learn from a mentor so. And

891
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: I quite frankly I think they need him. I mean

892
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: even with Phillips, uh, you know back there, and I

893
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: starting to think, I'm I might be too high on Dugger.

894
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: You might be I might be okay, And that almost

895
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 1: never happens on this show. No, No, I mean I thought,

896
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: I remember last year, like there were times where we

897
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: were like, oh, Dugger's not quite taking the second year

898
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: league Phips. Last time Paul was high on somebody who

899
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: was on the Patriots, he got traded a Buffalo. Oh,

900
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: I just shake your head and said, he said, all right,

901
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: said all right, I think I'm one. I'm worrying that

902
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: maybe I'm a little higher, like, what is wrong with

903
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: the tandem of Phillips and Unner Like nothing that we

904
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: had to have this guy back for nine million plus

905
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: more money on I think we're good at debt safety.

906
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I'm finally I think just a point

907
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: though to to Christian though, is I mean, I think

908
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: you've seen this kind of defensive coaching configuration the last

909
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: few years. But you know, especially for Steve and Gerard,

910
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: they've had a veteran group and so now I think

911
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 1: you're really going to see what those guys have because

912
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: there probably is. We've been talking about going to have

913
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: a bunch of new players that they're going to have to,

914
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: you know, not only teach the system, but figure out

915
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 1: what they do well and adapt and and you know,

916
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 1: maybe bring their own twist to this new thing, because

917
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 1: it's not all right, we know we can do this

918
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: with VANOI will do this with High Tower. Put Collins

919
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: over there, you know, like it's it's it's gonna be

920
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: all new to them too. And if you're going to

921
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 1: have less of the head coach involved on the defensive side,

922
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: then I think it's even more on them. So that

923
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: that that's what I'll be interested to see, is is

924
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: how they manage this and who else they bring in?

925
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: Would you would is it fair to say that the

926
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: younger your players, the more your coaches should be experienced

927
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: that that's another point that Mike. When Mike was talking,

928
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: that kind of made me worry a little more. And

929
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: maybe that's why they feel like they had to have mccordy,

930
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: because right they're not awfully confident in the instruction. And

931
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: I mean, and you know, it was also just another

932
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: button on it is that Steve Belichick was really involved

933
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 1: with Ronnie Perkins. So you know, it's the guy you wanted.

934
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna get to go, get a chance to play. Now,

935
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: we'll see what you can do with them. Collaborative, COLLABORI

936
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: collection one other thing, just to say real quick, um

937
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: for another Alabama guy the Bills. The Bills are adding JD. McKissick,

938
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: which is a you know, a good receiving back kind

939
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: of interesting move. Just somebody I kind of on my

940
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: radar a little bit with with the Patriots, but you know,

941
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: just more what they wanted, what they wanted that stiff

942
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: breeder to do for them last year. Yeah, I think

943
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: it's a good, good little signing for them. Let's go

944
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: to Eldred in North Carolina. Eldred, I'm just dropping the

945
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: ball in that Monday and game for no reason. Hey,

946
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: how y'all doing good? I'm not happy. There's a surprise.

947
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: You don't want to say it, but I'm gonna say

948
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, no, no, I gotta say the average.

949
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: I would have got my hunt honey badger and been

950
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: happy with him because, like I said, I don't I

951
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: don't remember seeing a forty last year or your full

952
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: as impact place. I don't see it as I'm safety

953
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: for eighty something millions. That's a bunch of bull that's

954
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of bulls. And like I said, Jim, I

955
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: don't like it. Coach, I love him to death. Jim

956
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: I never did like like some of his move He

957
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: always paid his buddies. You always paid the foot soldiers

958
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: that told that line in whatever. But no, million's not

959
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: do for leadership, especially when you can't lead on the field.

960
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: You lead by example. Yeah, and I'm like, no, yeah,

961
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: I would have. I would have kept j T. You know,

962
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: I have corners because you got some safeties, but you

963
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: ain't got no corners. Would you would rather have signed

964
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: j C. Jackson, fred or resigned mccordy. If you can

965
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: only have one j C. Jackson, me too. J C. Jackson,

966
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: me too. And I'm not I'm not shedding tears that

967
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: JC Jackson's gone. I've been pretty consistent. I think he's

968
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: a good player, not a great player, but I would him.

969
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: I would rather have kept him now. And then did

970
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: you get another corner in the draft or someone like that,

971
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: and then you may have a tandem on it. But

972
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: right now you got five nine, five eleven flow corners

973
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be an air attack all year long. See,

974
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. It's just and and yes,

975
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: McCardy didn't make any big dynamic plays. He's not. You know,

976
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: I thought there was a drop off flash, you know,

977
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: in the minority. But I think what the coaches would

978
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: tell us is you don't understand what he's doing out there.

979
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: That's why you don't think that he had an impact. Well,

980
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to use that as the barometer,

981
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: then why do we talk about any of this? No, no,

982
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: but but obviously the coaches know a lot more than

983
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: we do. No, I know. But but in terms in

984
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: terms of getting the calls, making sure people in there.

985
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 1: You know. Now, now the whole new corners, the whole

986
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: defense played terribly in December, including him, you know, like

987
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: you have to include everybody in that conversation at the

988
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 1: end of the season, like, now, why that happened is

989
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: something that they need to figure out, and they're never

990
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: gonna tell us the answer. But no one played well

991
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: at the end, you know, and he's part of that, right,

992
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: and we decided to bring the band back together. One

993
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: more question I have to run. Would you keep Jacobe

994
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: Myers instead of let him walk get a stuck around,

995
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: cause you really ain't got no receiver and Harry ain't

996
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: gonna never jump to a first round in the NAP

997
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: five years Well, they tended Myers right right, yes? Yeah,

998
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: So so would you take a second round? I think yeah.

999
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: His his question is if someone you know shows interesting,

1000
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 1: Jakobe Myers, would you take the second round pick for

1001
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: him or do you feel like you need the receiver

1002
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: too much? To you need receiver? I do think you

1003
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: need the receiver, but I think you could get a

1004
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: second that's probably more. Okay, that's the thing. Are you

1005
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: gonna get somebody that's better than him in the second

1006
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: round and maybe maybe not immediately. I certainly would think so. Yeah,

1007
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: but wow, well I think he's pretty good. And the

1008
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: second in the second round, yeah, you might get somebody better.

1009
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: You gotta be able to get a better second. I

1010
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: don't know, you have to. Yeah, I mean I know that,

1011
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: all right, thanks, Aldred. I know everybody looks at everybody

1012
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: looks at Belichick's track record or wide receivers, and I

1013
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: think that they're scared to death of it. But there's

1014
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: a lot of good receivers in the second round. Yeah.

1015
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: But you know, Jacobe Myers, what was he drafted in?

1016
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: There wasn't But now, like where would he be drafted? Like,

1017
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: not knowing what he is? Now, where do you think

1018
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: he would be drafted three? Early day three? I mean,

1019
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: I still don't think he has the measurables to like

1020
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: light it up. But I mean I would still say

1021
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: he's better than like the Slate Bolden guy that everybody loves.

1022
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: But you know, I think he's got good size and

1023
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: good athleticism, but I just don't think he has the

1024
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: any any plus, you know, one of those things in

1025
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: the scouting combine where they're gonna say, oh, I agree

1026
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: with Mike. I think you'd get drafted. I don't know

1027
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: how high, but I think you would be drafted somewhere

1028
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, we didn't talk at all about Deshaun Watson.

1029
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: You know, awhere Saints and Carolina sounds I mean Falcons,

1030
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: and I thought the Browns too, and the Browns were

1031
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: another one. Yeah, he's talked I think to the Saints, Panthers,

1032
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 1: and Browns. Well, I heard that the only two teams

1033
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: that he would allow to be traded to were the

1034
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: Saints and the Panthers. But now it seems to open

1035
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: up something. Sat Atlanta was a dark horse. I mean

1036
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: we saw something that that John mcclein and San Francisco

1037
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: is possibly lingering too. Yeah. John McClean retweeted somebody from

1038
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: Carolina that said that that they have a deal in

1039
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: place for him that would include Brian Burns, Jeremy Chin

1040
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: and two two three, three ones and two good young players,

1041
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: which would be a good haul for Houston, I think.

1042
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: But I mean, the only thing that makes sense to me,

1043
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: Like I know that Indie looked into it in the category.

1044
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: You're not going to trade him in the division. I

1045
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: think anything else would be I don't think you want

1046
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: him in your own division. Um, you know in his prime.

1047
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: It's not like Drew. You know, back in the day

1048
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Speaker 1: to William and Philham. What's up, William Fellas, what's going on.

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Speaker 1: How y'all doing good? Good? Okay? Um um saying I'm

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Speaker 1: with you, Paul, Kyle Dugg, I'm high on him. I'm

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Speaker 1: a fan, man. No, if you want to add the

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Speaker 1: Honey Badger, fine, but don't get rid of Kyle Dugger. Nah.

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Speaker 1: May I'm a fan on that one, definitely. And and

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Speaker 1: And Miles Jack I would love to have him, So yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's all right, thanks William. I just want to kind

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Speaker 1: He's not elite. He's not only me, he's not only

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Speaker 1: in history. Maybe I'm over that's going around too. That's

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Speaker 1: going around too. What the picture he posted subterfuge where

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Speaker 1: The picture he posted was him at from the Tampa

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Speaker 1: guy didn't I didn't look at the thing. I know

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Speaker 1: you didn't. I was asking something. I was on part

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Speaker 1: of this thing printed in kills more trees than anybody

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Yeah, do you file that. We're just

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Speaker 1: talking about how you know, and when we're doing the show,

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Speaker 1: we should reference just look, the animals need the trees. Eric,

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Speaker 1: think about that. My second question is whether you guys

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Speaker 1: think that's another great moment from all right, Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to Patriots Unfiltered eight five five ticket Hotline web radio

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Speaker 1: at Patriots dot com. It's the email address so kind

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Speaker 1: of read some. Yeah, one of the things we were

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Speaker 1: talking about during the break, Uh, that Adam Schefter tweet

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Speaker 1: about Deshaun Watson. You know, I I know he gets

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Speaker 1: very you know, defensive when people say, oh, you're carrying

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Speaker 1: water for this person or that person. But that was

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Speaker 1: obviously just repeating what the agent told him. You know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it seems like he gets locked into communicating with agents

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Speaker 1: and managers and you know, it's like you got to

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Speaker 1: take a second, I think. I mean, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: you need you need to develop your sources and you

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Speaker 1: want your sources to trust you. But part of that

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Speaker 1: is like explaining to the source, I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: objective here, and if I write something good it has

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Speaker 1: more weight than if I'm just carrying water and write

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Speaker 1: something good. He didn't have to say anything no, you know,

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Speaker 1: negative there, and to me, it's it. I even think

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Speaker 1: this is less about just taking the agent, but just

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Speaker 1: has some common sense, like the fact that he wasn't

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Speaker 1: criminally charged with anything does not equate innocence, right, which

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Speaker 1: is basically what he intimated with the you know, Watson

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Speaker 1: felt all along the truth. Oh what do we got, Patriots?

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Speaker 1: What do we got? James White? Oh? Okay, resigned, resigned

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Speaker 1: James White to year two point five million? Deal? Can't

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Speaker 1: have enough thirty somethings. Oh, that's it two point five

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Speaker 1: total or per year? That's a total, Tom Pella sero,

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Speaker 1: that's a deal. That's a deal? Is it yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: a million a year for James White guaranteed. That's a deal. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's coming off a serious hip injury. I don't worry

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Speaker 1: about it. No, I think he was gonna get like

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Speaker 1: cash in all market, had all kinds of competition for

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Speaker 1: his services. I thought he'd made three four million. He

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01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 1: only made three last year when he was healthy. When

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Speaker 1: he was healthy. Now he's coming off a hip surgery. Oh,

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Speaker 1: if he's not gonna play, and you know what, we

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Speaker 1: sign him. Obviously they think he's gonna play, right, No,

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Speaker 1: I know, but how well Fred like the guy like

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Speaker 1: Jamison Williams is coming out of the draft with a

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Speaker 1: twenty acl. He's going to play at some point. We

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Speaker 1: just don't know when, and we don't know how well.

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Speaker 1: Great deal once again, Patriots chess chess chess. I think

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Speaker 1: take a ten and eight team that got blown off

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Speaker 1: the yield to lose the playoffs and pull a Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't part of that. He wasn't pull a Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 1: Let's bring the band back, let's keep the band together.

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Speaker 1: That it wasn't part of that demise. Somehow, the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl champs decided to run it back and were mocked

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Speaker 1: and ridiculed for it. I think, but the ten and

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Speaker 1: eight Patriots who got knocked out the first round of

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Speaker 1: the player I think James, I'm not forcing a fourth

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Speaker 1: thound in the game. I think he's a good guy.

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Speaker 1: Think he's a good guy too. I think he's nice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would disagree with that. One of my favorite all

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Speaker 1: time Patriots. Yeah, I think. Uh. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: it's something they kind of had to do. I mean

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Speaker 1: that I brought m Kissick before the break. I think

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Speaker 1: they needed a receiving back. He saw some good chemistry

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Speaker 1: between the two low money, you know, the older guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I like not to dismiss Paul's point about

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Speaker 1: you need young guys to get talented, but I think

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Speaker 1: that that's a given what's out there, what they need,

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Speaker 1: what that room needs, what they can afford. It's all

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Speaker 1: about what you've had. Can I ask a question? I

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Speaker 1: have another because I know it's coming. I I want

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Speaker 1: to apologize for two reasons. Number one, I completely cut

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Speaker 1: you off in the middle of a sentence. I want

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Speaker 1: to apologize for that. But a number two, I don't

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Speaker 1: want you to think this has anything to do with

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Speaker 1: anything you've said, because it doesn't. Did the Patriots have

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Speaker 1: a culture issue last year? I don't know. I'm asking

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Speaker 1: what your opinion is, Oh, this is gonna be good.

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Speaker 1: I think they might have. I don't know. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I didn't sense that at all, but evidently

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Speaker 1: they did. Evidently you're right, because that is the number

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Speaker 1: one priority. And again, no disrespect intended to a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys that I really really like in some cases

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Speaker 1: really really respect, like Mike Reese. Have the utmost respect

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Speaker 1: for Mike reest. If he writes it once, he writes

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Speaker 1: it a hundred times in the last three weeks about

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Speaker 1: the culture fit. And these moves were clearly made with

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Speaker 1: the culture. I wasn't aware that the Patriots had a

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Speaker 1: culture problem. Well, and now I'm a little worried about

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Speaker 1: Now I'm even like you know me, I get worried

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Speaker 1: about random crap. I almost said you almost did, so

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Speaker 1: I get worried about a lot of these little things.

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Speaker 1: What if it was, well, I'm worried that they had

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Speaker 1: a culture problem that I didn't know about last But

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Speaker 1: if it was less a culture thing than more of

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Speaker 1: differences of opinion among players, you know, and not that's

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Speaker 1: a culture problem. Well, yeah, I mean you guys not

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Speaker 1: on the same page. Yeah, it's not like but now

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Speaker 1: you were brought up your culture not yeah, but no,

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Speaker 1: but I know what, I know what you're saying. But

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Speaker 1: it wasn't It was less um you know, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm not bought into playing football that type of culture

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01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: thing less than what we're doing. I don't agree with

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Speaker 1: what we're doing. That's a culture problem. That's what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about. Well, like, yeah, I mean remember the famous

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Speaker 1: quote from Matthew Slader about you know, hey, this can

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Speaker 1: go oh, And I was for that, for being concerned

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Speaker 1: about that, right, right that we hadn't heard anything like

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Speaker 1: that come out of that locker room. And I can't

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Speaker 1: even remember the last grade or something. I see the

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Speaker 1: same who's the one that said, you know you need

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Speaker 1: it's time to look in the mirror? That was later,

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Speaker 1: I would say, because this could go one of two ways,

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Speaker 1: Like you could either pack it up, pack it up

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Speaker 1: and go home and quit or something along those lines. Yeah,

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01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: or we could sider I know what I'm going to

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01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: do something like that, right, and you had you know,

1421
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: we had the um, we have more news over there.

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Speaker 1: You look like you have that look on your face.

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01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 1: We had the quote from Van Noy, I don't remember

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Speaker 1: if it was during the season or right after the season,

1425
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: where about like you know judeon oh yeah, being able

1426
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 1: to run around and do his own thing, which may

1427
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Speaker 1: have had something to do with why he was let go.

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Speaker 1: But you know, you had JC Jack. I wasn't aware

1429
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 1: there was a culture issue, but now you know, evidently

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Speaker 1: they thought it was really important to get every thirty

1431
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Speaker 1: five year old guy that was on the Patriots last

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Speaker 1: year and retain his services or get rid of before

1433
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 1: you know, like and the other thing that I don't

1434
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Speaker 1: understand is why all of these moves are being made

1435
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 1: when everybody else is signing other free agents. Why weren't

1436
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: all these moves made last week, Like get your house

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01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: in order last week, so you're ready to go this week? Right?

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. I love you know, in all seriouses.

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Speaker 1: You know, I love me some James White. Who does

1440
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Speaker 1: I was on James White before he played, I mean

1441
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: that year that he was basically red shirted. I loved

1442
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 1: the guy. I thought there was a lot of potential there.

1443
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: I love James White. I just don't think you needed

1444
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: him back. I don't oh I mean it's basically free all.

1445
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Speaker 1: All it is is a roster spot at this point, right,

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Speaker 1: And I'd rather have the roster spot with a twenty

1447
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Speaker 1: five year old guy to do that, wow, to see

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Speaker 1: if maybe he can do something over the next three

1449
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Speaker 1: or four years. You know, that doesn't mean we can't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to cut him, but he's

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Speaker 1: costing you someone in that role now, Cap is crap.

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Speaker 1: Paul has nothing to do with the cap. He's on

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Speaker 1: the roster. He's gonna fill that role, I know. And

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Speaker 1: don't worry. Bolden's coming back too. You wait, well we'll

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Speaker 1: see about that. But okay, you wait, He's coming to

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Speaker 1: Joe you next. Yeah, I mean, I would you be

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Speaker 1: surprised if the fourth round they pick a guy that

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01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 1: is a running back, you know, a pass catching running

1459
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 1: back Cook from Georgia. I would you would be? Yes, Okay,

1460
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: I would based on this signing, I would be. I

1461
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: would not be they only have six draft picks, I

1462
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: would not be. I would be a little more surprised. Now,

1463
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 1: but I do like James Cook from Georgias as a

1464
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,760
Speaker 1: fit Dalvin Cook's brother. Um, but I mean, can we

1465
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: tie the Josh thing into this of losing offensive coordinator.

1466
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 1: We don't really have a coach, you know, having that though, Mac,

1467
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 1: we need one from from Andrey Stevenson too. It's on

1468
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 1: fire today. I'm not like, I'm not gonna lie it's

1469
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: in his bonnet. I thought, I thought there was a

1470
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: couple of things that were priorities. And I totally agree

1471
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 1: with your original premise, Fred, that I heard you talking

1472
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: about as I was walking in. We didn't think they

1473
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 1: were going to go hog wild two years in a row.

1474
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,600
Speaker 1: So I'm not disappointed in them for not doing that.

1475
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 1: And that's nothing to do like the whole they don't

1476
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 1: want to spend money thing nonsense. That's not what I'm

1477
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 1: talking about. I thought they needed to get faster and younger.

1478
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: I've done neither. Okay, retaining old, slow guys is not

1479
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 1: what I would want to do. This still over twenty

1480
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: roster spots available and guys can get you know, so

1481
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 1: we'll see right now, you're right, they haven't addressed that yet.

1482
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 1: You know, they have not addressed that yet. Let's go

1483
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 1: to Christian. If you think they can address it with

1484
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: young guys that cost a lot of money, then you

1485
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 1: agree with me about the cap. Then what's that. I Well,

1486
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 1: we talked about it as you were. This is another

1487
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,600
Speaker 1: thing we were talking about as you walked in the catridge.

1488
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 1: I let it go. Okay, then I'll let that go.

1489
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 1: That dumb remark, let's go to Christian. Let's go to Christian.

1490
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: Then anytime you can sign a guy to a one year,

1491
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 1: nine million dollar deal and his cap numbers less than

1492
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: nine million, the cap is craped. Well because like there's

1493
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: gonna be dead money with mccau like, there's a million

1494
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: ways to do it, a million ways to do No

1495
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: one's saying that you don't have to do things to

1496
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 1: do it. But that's the only sport that you can

1497
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: get around the cap. Football and hockey you can't do.

1498
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: It's a looser cap, absolutely no doubt about it, because

1499
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 1: fifty three guys, you gotta be somewhat flexible. Christian. What's up,

1500
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: Hey you guys, Good to talk to you again. Um, so,

1501
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: what do you guys think about possibly, you know, pulling

1502
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 1: an earl Thomas off the scrap heat one two? Give

1503
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 1: me your top three if we could do it free

1504
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: agent wide receiver and as opposed to your top three,

1505
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 1: if we can pop to get them. Uh, Draft pick

1506
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: wide receivers and then and then lastly, could you guys

1507
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 1: possibly explain this double cap thing that Aaron Rodgers did.

1508
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 1: I don't get the map how they they It's like

1509
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 1: a one time special deal or something like that. Not

1510
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: not familiar with that. Do you have anything you're working

1511
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: off of a report or anything. So supposably they are

1512
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 1: paying Aaron Rodgers seventy five million dollars over three years

1513
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, one hundred and fifty million dollars over three years.

1514
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 1: And so what they did was they pushed his contract

1515
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 1: back three years from twenty twenty four, and they're going

1516
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 1: to give him a signing bonus each year. Yeah, I

1517
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 1: mean that seems to like, is that some sort of

1518
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 1: weird doubles jeopardy is a signing? Yeah, he has I

1519
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: think he has a fifty million dollars roster bonus this

1520
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,759
Speaker 1: year or something like. Yeah, signing bonus is when you signed.

1521
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 1: But then they have these roster bonuses. If you're on

1522
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 1: the roster by a certain date, it's guaranteed money. You know,

1523
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 1: when he knows. They said that if he doesn't play

1524
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 1: two years now, if he decided even though he's signed

1525
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 1: for years, if he decides to walk two years from

1526
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 1: now that, um, the Packers will be stuck with like

1527
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 1: sixty eight million dollars of dead money. Okay, so like

1528
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 1: imagine that and they still signed it. Oh what are

1529
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 1: we going to do? Yeah? Yeah, onto the question old

1530
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 1: Thomas pull him scrap pet You know, Eric Whytel did

1531
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 1: well last year. I think he's done. I don't think

1532
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: he can run anymore. I mean, it was a bad

1533
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 1: ending two for him in Baltimore, wasn't it. There was

1534
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 1: all kinds of issues with him off the field as well. Yeah,

1535
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:12,680
Speaker 1: I think they're good at safety. If you got any

1536
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 1: old cornerbacks, I'd probably consider pulling any of them off

1537
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: the scrap heap though, right, Yeah, well, you know I

1538
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 1: always loved old Thomas Harry sad to see him go.

1539
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,759
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was too old to play. Probably

1540
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 1: just a headcase. Um what about the top three free

1541
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 1: to wide receivers and your top three uh possible draft pick? Oh,

1542
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 1: Alan Robinson's still a help. Yes, that would be the

1543
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: number one. I don't really if you never you never performed, though, guy,

1544
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 1: he's always been like, oh if he had a better quarterback, Obie,

1545
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 1: if he wasn't hurt. Oh this than that. He's like,

1546
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 1: he's almost like a Nikil Harry to me, you know,

1547
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: more more talented. Yeah, but what have you done? Yeah,

1548
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 1: he's better than Nikil Harry. I mean yeah, I don't

1549
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 1: even put him in the same sentence as Nikkil Harry.

1550
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: Juju Juju still love the Juju is still out there.

1551
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: I don't have much interest in him, but there's not

1552
01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 1: that much. But there's not a lot, not a lot

1553
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:03,839
Speaker 1: of names left at this point. That's what you reduced to. Possibly,

1554
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 1: would you guys possibly see digting deep and getting that

1555
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 1: Adams and he doesn't want him playing on the cap.

1556
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: We give him a little more than the cap. Either,

1557
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna stay. He's gonna stay in Green Bay. He's

1558
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: gonna stay in Green Bay. Well, they're not trading, they're not.

1559
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 1: You'd have to get they're not they're not getting you'd

1560
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 1: have to give up a first round pick for him.

1561
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,680
Speaker 1: And I think one of the reasons Rogers resigned with

1562
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 1: them was the understanding, you're keeping Davantae Adams here, so

1563
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: don't even think about him. There was a report yesterday

1564
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 1: that there was playing the franchise. He's he's going to

1565
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 1: sign a new contract. He's going to sign a new contra. Wait,

1566
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 1: did you you heard that he won't He said he

1567
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 1: won't play. He has said he's not going to play.

1568
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:41,759
Speaker 1: He said, you don't want to play under the franchise,

1569
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: which means they're working out a new deal. What if

1570
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 1: they can't, they will because that's why Rogers stayed there.

1571
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere. Same guys, The same thing just

1572
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: happened with Randy Gregory, right, the Cowboys tweet. It's different.

1573
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 1: Find Randy Gregory, it's different. Whoa lo and behold something

1574
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 1: happened and now he's going to those teams. Yeah. Yeah,

1575
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 1: they changed the langue in the contract and he decided

1576
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 1: to go to one other team. Right, DeVante Adams doesn't

1577
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: have that luxury. He's franchised. I mean, he's nine years in, right,

1578
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 1: and so what if the Packers of thinking, you know,

1579
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams is what he's he's nine ninth seasons in

1580
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:19,680
Speaker 1: or something. No, DeVante Adams is not entering his tenth year.

1581
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams is not entering his tenth year, is he. Well, anyway,

1582
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what. I want to give you

1583
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 1: some stats of the guy who never has performed in

1584
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one hundred and two catches for twelve hundred

1585
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 1: and fifty nine yards, in twenty nineteen, ninety eight catches

1586
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: for eleven hundred and forty seven yards, in twenty sixteen,

1587
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 1: seventy three catches for eight hundred and eighty three yards,

1588
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, eighty catches for fourteen hundred yards, and oh,

1589
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 1: by the way, fourteen touchdowns that year. That's Alan Robins.

1590
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 1: Why he always teeds to be that guy that everyone's

1591
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 1: waiting for them for him to because he's expensive as hell.

1592
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 1: He's like Brandon Cooks. He got franchised and now he's

1593
01:20:55,560 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: gonna make bank. You know, Brandon Cooks started his career

1594
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 1: as a first round draft pick. So he's always been

1595
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,719
Speaker 1: an expensive player, and he has been in two places

1596
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 1: with terrible quarterback play, Jacksonville and Chicago. Yeah, yeah, that's

1597
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: said guy that said he gets a hundred catches every year.

1598
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 1: Do you guys think his route treat matches what Mac

1599
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 1: Jones does? Well? Already do What can you tell me

1600
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 1: just how to curious out? Now? What did you tell

1601
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: me about the Alan Robinson route tree? Yeah? You know

1602
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,600
Speaker 1: his route tree typically from what I've seen. I just

1603
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: looked at his thing on YouTube. He does a lot

1604
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 1: of he does a lot of out and a lot

1605
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 1: of comeback, not a lot across the middle stuff, not

1606
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 1: a lot of deep stuff. Well they need that too,

1607
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 1: that we need. Yeah, you need every you need, You

1608
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: need talent that. I would take Alan Robinson in a heartbeat. Yeah. Now,

1609
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 1: if you want to tell me he's a little old

1610
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: and you don't want to you think his best years

1611
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 1: are behind him, I wouldn't necessarily disagree with that. But

1612
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't tell me he's never produced too.

1613
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 1: You can't tell me he hasn't produced. Yeah, he had

1614
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 1: one bad year, he's a last year. He got hurt.

1615
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: He's a good player, take that back, but one he's

1616
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 1: already been injured. And how do you put him up

1617
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 1: against the top three, you know, potential draft pick. Well

1618
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 1: that's separate. You can still do that, like you can

1619
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 1: still take I don't want Davante Adams over a draft

1620
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 1: pick either. I mean, even though DeVante Adams is a

1621
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 1: thousand times better. Yeah, you can do both. Oh, by

1622
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 1: the way, it's two years five million for James. Okay,

1623
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 1: that makes more sense. Yeah, that makes it better. Year

1624
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 1: was twenty fourteen when you saw him in Green Bay

1625
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 1: beat the Patriots. Uh, and this is will be his

1626
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 1: ninth year. Thanks questions, he's been around longer than I thought,

1627
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: so again, yeah, I'll take but he's not healthy, Jamison

1628
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: william he's not going. There was there was the rumor

1629
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 1: yesterday that the Patriots were in were interested in h

1630
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 1: Valdes Scantling. That's another receiver's name that was kind of

1631
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,640
Speaker 1: out there. But again that wasn't an imminent signing. That

1632
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 1: was just one of those kind of like rumor mill

1633
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 1: they might be interested in. I just love to know

1634
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 1: who they actually are interested in. It's just like there's

1635
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 1: probably a long list of like guys they've talked to,

1636
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: guys that people made up that they're interested in. Agents

1637
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:14,560
Speaker 1: they want their guys to be interested Like if you

1638
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 1: really ask Bill Belichick right now, like who we interested in?

1639
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: Like is it a list of like six guys total?

1640
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 1: You know, like everybody's connected to them constantly. Let's get

1641
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 1: to some emails, um web Brady or Patriot dot com

1642
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 1: one and Stratford writes and according to Tom Pella Sera,

1643
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 1: the contract for is five million, two years, two and

1644
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 1: a half million from sweet Feet. I hear Paul's point

1645
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 1: of giving the younger pass catching running back a chance,

1646
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 1: But from a long term perspective, is it worth it

1647
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: that White mentor Stevenson for the team's future? What are

1648
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: your thoughts. Here's the thing about players mentoring other players.

1649
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 1: That's not their job. Yeah, it's over. I mean it

1650
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: can help and obviously, and all that does just make

1651
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: me worry more that we have a bunch of guys

1652
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:59,679
Speaker 1: that are lost souls. Well, but we need seven guys

1653
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 1: thirty five year older to make sure that all these

1654
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: other guys know what to do. But it's otherwise I

1655
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 1: don't even think anybody to be able to show up

1656
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 1: to the facility. It does help to have guys who

1657
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:12,600
Speaker 1: show who you know, show the way by example, you know,

1658
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,439
Speaker 1: it does. It does help to have them, But they're

1659
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: not like, you know, sitting down next to players and

1660
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 1: going over the playbook and all that stuff they're doing.

1661
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 1: They have to they have their own jobs, yes, their

1662
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,560
Speaker 1: own survival to worry about. But does it help to

1663
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 1: have guys who lead by example? Yes, it does. Yeah,

1664
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 1: and it's and it's hard to ignore the like the

1665
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 1: reverence that Damian Harris has when talking about James White,

1666
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 1: and like how emotional they got, you know when he left,

1667
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 1: you know, was hurt. So I think it's good for Mac.

1668
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: I think it's good to have another option. I think

1669
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: James White, we'll see if you can still play. I

1670
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: would love because think Damien Harris last year. It's good. Yeah,

1671
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:49,719
Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, it's amazing you did that without James White.

1672
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 1: I know. But like there's a certain to building a

1673
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 1: team that I do not just purely, you know, like

1674
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 1: you have to put some thought into it, right, Like,

1675
01:24:58,040 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: I get it, you're being a little give me one

1676
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: of those guys, maybe two. We have six like guys

1677
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 1: that don't need the field, but there's a lot of

1678
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:12,759
Speaker 1: guys that their biggest contribution next year will be mentoring

1679
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 1: in the locker room leadership. Like it just I don't

1680
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: know how many of those guys should be. I love

1681
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 1: these players, I love them all, but I always listen

1682
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: to Bill it's better to get rid of these guys

1683
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:25,640
Speaker 1: a year earlier, but a year late. Right now, now

1684
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: were like three years past time. But now we're really

1685
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,879
Speaker 1: talking about three players at this point, right, Slater, mccordy,

1686
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 1: and now James White. That's it. Yeah right, I mean,

1687
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,679
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not gonna throw Nick Folk into that group,

1688
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: all right? Or Brian Hoyer. I would you would, yeah,

1689
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 1: because I would rather go with a younger guy at

1690
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: both of those spots. Nick Folk is like, hasn't missed

1691
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 1: a kick inside fifty yards since Like I'm I'm aware

1692
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 1: of that, you know, I'm aware of that. On him,

1693
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 1: I a little bit more on pause with rolling the

1694
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 1: dice on that one Egyptian doesn't matter. I think it's

1695
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: a matter of time. The guy, I mean, at some

1696
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 1: point he's gonna revert anywhere. And then, like you say, Paul,

1697
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 1: you just get another kicker then you well, but that's

1698
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 1: your ward's not mine. You have another kicker, Quinn developmental. Yeah,

1699
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 1: he's so. Then you bring him up and you start

1700
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: him on the practice squad once once, folks, you know

1701
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 1: it looks like he can't do it. Then you have

1702
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 1: him so great you know, competition. Yeah, I think you're

1703
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: not up in arms over each individual guy. I'm up

1704
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: in arms over all of them. Yeah. But like I said,

1705
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: it's only three. Yeah, that's that's too too many in

1706
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 1: my opinion. Like, I don't be dramatic. I'm not being dramatic.

1707
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:48,560
Speaker 1: I don't understand what the benefit of all of them is,

1708
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, and I would say especially Slater once you

1709
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 1: had the worst special teams in football last year and

1710
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 1: he's the leader of it. Yeah, and backing up Paul's point,

1711
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 1: Zolac and Bertram right now, they just had their little

1712
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 1: how they put like what the topic is that they're

1713
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 1: talking about? Ye? Are the Patriots headed in the wrong

1714
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 1: direction signing all these guys in the twilight of their career? Okay?

1715
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,560
Speaker 1: Well you know, I just like, I really are not

1716
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: the ones all these guys want me to be. Three guys?

1717
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: Do you want me to be snarky? It's five guys?

1718
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 1: Alan Brian Hoyer is you know what happened to like

1719
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: j Jared Sidema is like you can't back up your mind?

1720
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 1: Does not that matter or not? I can't keep up

1721
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,640
Speaker 1: with you? Sure it does? Okay, So you don't have

1722
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 1: to pay your backup quarterback with that veteran is making. Yeah,

1723
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 1: you can pay a lot less for a backup quarterback

1724
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 1: if the cat actually matters. And that has nothing to

1725
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 1: do with why I don't want Brian Hoyer here. But

1726
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 1: that's beside the point. I think you can have a

1727
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: better backup quarterback that, if he has to play, is

1728
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 1: better than Brian Hoyer. All right, but we'll never know

1729
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 1: because evidently we have a culture problem. To me and

1730
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 1: I have to fix it. The world's not to me.

1731
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:53,759
Speaker 1: The world's not, you know, falling apart because they signed

1732
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:56,560
Speaker 1: James White. No, the world's not falling apart because of that.

1733
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 1: It's falling apart because their roster showed that it wasn't

1734
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:01,680
Speaker 1: strong enough last year and they decided to go with

1735
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 1: the same guys. Yeah. Wow, that's what it's falling apart over. Well,

1736
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 1: you're missing the whole point, you know. I don't think

1737
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: they were good enough when the season ended last year,

1738
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, and their solution was let's just keep it

1739
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 1: all together. I think the linebackers that are so far

1740
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 1: not returning were more responsible for that than James White

1741
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 1: who was hurt, or mccordy on the back end as

1742
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: a free safety. I don't blame it on anybody. I

1743
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 1: don't I don't blame it on anybody. I'm not I'm

1744
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 1: not blaming I'm just saying those guys weren't the answer.

1745
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 1: They were all here last year, they weren't good So

1746
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 1: the end of the year. Everyone should go. No, I'm

1747
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 1: saying let some of them go. They are. They are

1748
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 1: letting some of them go. They let jac Jackson go

1749
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 1: to one young guy, and they let Kyle van Noy go.

1750
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 1: That's different. They're probably gonna let Bentley go. Hi High

1751
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 1: Tower probably will go. High Tower will be an example

1752
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 1: of this. If I ain't High Tower back, then that's

1753
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 1: another bad move. The rest of them are all young.

1754
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. You know, now we're getting

1755
01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 1: into like now to me, it's like High Tower in Bentley.

1756
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: Not the same thing. Yeah, letting Bentley go isn't. Oh,

1757
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 1: they're they're doing it. They're letting them go. No, Bentley

1758
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 1: is a guy that I wouldn't be opposed to resign it.

1759
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 1: High Tower, yes, I would be. I think they need

1760
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:15,639
Speaker 1: to move on. But Ni again, another thirty something I'm

1761
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 1: fine with. Okay, so they're doing it. They least one

1762
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 1: guy friend Paul just doing it columns listen in three

1763
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 1: weeks Free Agent. I railed against that move last year. Okay,

1764
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 1: but when they do different things, we'll have different things

1765
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 1: to talk about. We can only do a show that

1766
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 1: was on the table. I understand, but they agree with you.

1767
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 1: Then that's right, they did. I don't think they did.

1768
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't think they did. I don't know where this

1769
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 1: like sudden influx of tent like Miles Jack. Okay, then

1770
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:49,639
Speaker 1: they heard me on the linebackers special team guy Mac

1771
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 1: Wilson Alabama. Miles Jack can play like Mac Wilson is

1772
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 1: a special teamer. Soup. Was that article you just wrote

1773
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 1: called oh the future at linebacker? Could the addition of

1774
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 1: Matt Wilson be as sign of changes that come? I hope.

1775
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 1: So now I'll answer my own question. But LRC justin

1776
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 1: in Orlando. I know Deuce is all about the front seven,

1777
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:20,560
Speaker 1: but it seems like the draft focus on the D

1778
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:24,599
Speaker 1: line is about getting a defensive tackle to pair with Barmore,

1779
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 1: like the Georgia defensive tackles or Winfrey out of Oklahoma.

1780
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 1: But how much focus should there be on getting an

1781
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 1: edge player early in the draft. New England could really

1782
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 1: use a boost to the defense like they had in

1783
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 1: twenty twelve when they drafted High Tower and Chandler Jones,

1784
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 1: setting them up for the next era of success defensively,

1785
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:45,679
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure drafting a corner early will impact

1786
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 1: the defense as quickly as an investment up front night

1787
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 1: bottom line, they need a big defensive infusion of young

1788
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 1: talent over the next couple of drafts so they can

1789
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: afford to sign a top corner like they did with Gilmore. Yeah,

1790
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 1: hundred percent. I mean I and that's can I ask

1791
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 1: why why? Because they got no Why does the impact

1792
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 1: right now? Why does the impact upfront happen faster than

1793
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 1: an impact in the back. Oh, that's what he thinks.

1794
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:14,640
Speaker 1: That's why I asked why. I don't know. I mean,

1795
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 1: I apologize if that's it an, but I'm asking why

1796
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 1: drafting a first round defensive end, we'll have a faster

1797
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 1: impact than a first round cornerback. Yeah, I mean I think,

1798
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you are involved him in more of the

1799
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 1: action up front, But I mean I think the better

1800
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 1: corner could certainly outsign a defensive end. But I mean

1801
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 1: that's that's where I go. I know we differ on

1802
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 1: that one, but no, and I'm not listening if they

1803
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 1: if they sign Um, like, I would want an edge guy.

1804
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 1: I don't want any part of a defensive tackle at

1805
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:47,599
Speaker 1: twenty one. I would want an edge guy. But if

1806
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 1: they signed a good player, I don't care what position plays. Yeah,

1807
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm asking, just in theory, why a guy

1808
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 1: that plays one position potentially as a faster impact over

1809
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 1: a guy who plays another position. I think it's regardless

1810
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 1: of players of position. To me, it's all about did

1811
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 1: you get a guy who can play? Like if they

1812
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:09,639
Speaker 1: Christian Barmore could play, he made an immediate I've heard

1813
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 1: that about running back, that it's easier to like make

1814
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: an instant impact in the NFL that morning back. Now

1815
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yeah, that that makes total sense to me.

1816
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 1: But like if it's just if they took an instinct position,

1817
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 1: if they took a cornerback at twenty one and now

1818
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 1: just having lost JC Jackson, you don't think he'd be

1819
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 1: in line to be a day one starter. Oh yeah, no,

1820
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 1: he should right, sure, for sure. And if they took

1821
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 1: a if they took a defensive end edge guy to

1822
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 1: play opposite Judean, you don't think he would be in

1823
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 1: the mix to be a day one starter. Absolutely, So

1824
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:42,679
Speaker 1: I think I think you know Paul's right, Like, whoever

1825
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 1: they take him, he's good. Yeah, I don't really care

1826
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:48,600
Speaker 1: what's good he should be. If he should be in

1827
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: the mix to be a starter, if you do, But

1828
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 1: I'm not anti Douce here if Deuce Deuce wants defensive linemen.

1829
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 1: But but I'm with you, but I'm not an anti

1830
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 1: defensive lineman there either, right, Like I think at twenty one,

1831
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 1: you got to get a good player, yeah, the best player.

1832
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 1: I'll just say this. I think that the Patriots defense

1833
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 1: got pushed around and had no answers at the end

1834
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 1: of last season. And I think that if you're gonna

1835
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 1: rebuild your defense, for me, it starts with guys like

1836
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 1: Christian Barmore and you know, a guy like I've I've

1837
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:17,719
Speaker 1: mentioned Trey Von Walker from Georgia, who now is probably

1838
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 1: I mean i've seen him going all the way up

1839
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 1: at third overall now. But you know that kind of presence,

1840
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 1: and that's why I love, you know, Trey Flowers. I

1841
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 1: think he's a tough guy that they that's what they need.

1842
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 1: Last year. I just it didn't seem like it. In Spurts,

1843
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 1: they were tough and they were hard to play against,

1844
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,680
Speaker 1: and you know, you liked what you had, but they

1845
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 1: got pushed around, they had no answers. So you need

1846
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 1: you need to remake the defense almost in a way

1847
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 1: like when they brought Gronk in and that kind of

1848
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 1: refreshed the whole Patriots offense in a way, you know,

1849
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 1: Gronk and Hernandez. It was a new it was just

1850
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 1: a new dynamic that you had new so and I

1851
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 1: think it's easier to have a defensive front guy maybe

1852
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 1: do that than say a shutdown corner. But it's not impossible.

1853
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 1: I just think picking at twenty one, you're probably you're

1854
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 1: just gonna choose what's left. I'll steal some of the

1855
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 1: headlines I saw when Trey Flowers was made available. Does

1856
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 1: a return to the Patriots make sense? Yes? Yes, should

1857
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 1: take him? Yes, yeah, I would take him. Yeah. I

1858
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 1: wouldn't give him any money, but I would take him. Yeah,

1859
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 1: let him play for a year and then go get

1860
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 1: bade by Houston. I would. I'd love to get him back.

1861
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, he's on the thirty. I mean he's

1862
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 1: so Yeah, I would. I would take him back because

1863
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,599
Speaker 1: he has familiarity with the system and whatnot, and he's

1864
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 1: gonna come in and play and it's not like, all right,

1865
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 1: you know, can he play like that's but that's not

1866
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 1: like he's not an edge guy, Like he's not going

1867
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 1: to give you a sacks. He's not gonna he's gonna

1868
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 1: stop the run. He's gonna be you know, solid people.

1869
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 1: I'll just take somebody. Yeah, that is that fair? Right? Um,

1870
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 1: let's see Marie in Durham, New Hampshire. H just caught

1871
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 1: up in the last few episodes and as a you

1872
01:34:57,520 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 1: mass alum, I have to chime in on the possible

1873
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 1: ability of an Andy Isabella na Kiel Harry trade. In

1874
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 1: the past ten years, I've seen about four good things

1875
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:08,640
Speaker 1: that you mask football games, Andy Isabella, Taj Sharp, the

1876
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:11,240
Speaker 1: Marching Band, and the fact that the stadium started selling

1877
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 1: alcohol because you really need to get it to need

1878
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 1: it through to get through some of those games. Yes,

1879
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 1: the bar is supremely low with you, mass football, but

1880
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:20,680
Speaker 1: if you can get a good price for a guy

1881
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 1: with some potential, and why not. He's only got a

1882
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:25,519
Speaker 1: year left on his contract, so if he doesn't work out,

1883
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 1: to the next one, onto the next one. If he

1884
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 1: does work out, resign him and let him keep growing

1885
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 1: with mac. I agree. I think that's the kind of

1886
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 1: move that would make sense. You have a young athletic

1887
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:40,559
Speaker 1: guy with upside. If it doesn't work, you've lost nothing, right.

1888
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 1: I agree with that email a thousand percent. I do

1889
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 1: a similar move of my boiler viscache Chanel chano what

1890
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,759
Speaker 1: I'm talking about? Yeah, well they were pronouncing its channel

1891
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 1: through the draft process, right, and then today prof it's

1892
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:58,680
Speaker 1: like Chanel, Oh yeah, thank god, but the same kind

1893
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:01,599
Speaker 1: of thing. I take flyers on those guys absolutely, especially

1894
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 1: if you can say bye bye to Harry. I'd be

1895
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 1: more willing to truss with Isabella because of the speed.

1896
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 1: And I think, sure, yes, I watched them all through college. Yeah,

1897
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 1: I've only been thrown on it off on it. Today

1898
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 1: when I looked at p Reff and it said fronancy,

1899
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 1: I just caught pronunciation, right, Yeah, but did Aaron do it?

1900
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 1: Go on? I don't know why. Let's do next week.

1901
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 1: Let's go in of April. That was the greatest. That

1902
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 1: was the greatest moment in the history of that meeting.

1903
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 1: It says here in April, people don't know what we're

1904
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:34,760
Speaker 1: talking about. That's okay, it's inside you. Um, let's go

1905
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 1: back to the outline. Patty's an agawam, what's up? Patty?

1906
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 1: What's up? Guys? I love following up Paul. It's great, Um, Paul,

1907
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 1: I I agree with you on certain plays, but I

1908
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 1: think um with a couple of them, like Player and mccordy,

1909
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:54,439
Speaker 1: Like we don't they're they're certain guys that we don't

1910
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:56,640
Speaker 1: have replacements for at the time being. And I know,

1911
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,560
Speaker 1: like a backup quarterback you can get anywhere, but I

1912
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 1: mean that you've heard guys stay it over the past

1913
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 1: couple of years. I mean, he's probably, aside from Tom Brady,

1914
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:08,640
Speaker 1: the guy that knows this offensive system the best. But

1915
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 1: not only that, I mean this is kind of a

1916
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,760
Speaker 1: telling problem that we've seen, Like we've seen them sort

1917
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:17,680
Speaker 1: of miss more's a quarterback position with Brady. We've seen

1918
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 1: a miss manage a cornerback position this year. This is

1919
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:24,559
Speaker 1: the first year since um oh seven when a sant

1920
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 1: by Samuel left off for the season, though we don't

1921
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 1: have a clear cut guy in the waiting and even

1922
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 1: at pretty safety with mccordy, I mean, they haven't. They

1923
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 1: haven't replenished the well sore to speak or Bellis mc

1924
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 1: hasn't repunished the well. And to me that that's a

1925
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 1: little bit more concerning than them just bringing back like

1926
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of old guys. It's like, when are they

1927
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:50,120
Speaker 1: gonna replenish the well? You know? Yeah? Okay, So Patty

1928
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 1: My point is, instead of some of the guys that

1929
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 1: you resigned, if they went out and got like Darius

1930
01:37:55,479 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 1: Williams for h is it shavarious War, Yeah yeah, yeah,

1931
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:03,680
Speaker 1: you know, and then maybe you'd say, Okay, well they

1932
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 1: replaced jac Jackson. That's a guy. You know, they got

1933
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 1: another guy and they replace them. But instead, you know,

1934
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 1: we're bringing back thirty five year old safeties because we

1935
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 1: have to fix the culture. Evidently you can do both.

1936
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,360
Speaker 1: At some point. You can't because they're all signed, I know,

1937
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 1: but but like you can't sign other guys signing, but

1938
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:28,839
Speaker 1: signing Devin mccordy did not mean that they couldn't replace j. C. Jackson.

1939
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:31,600
Speaker 1: Now they may not, and we can criticize them for that,

1940
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 1: but I don't think that you know, McCord doing that.

1941
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:37,680
Speaker 1: I can only go off of today, I know, but

1942
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm just saying they're not related. Okay, so you say

1943
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 1: they're not related. I do. I think they are related.

1944
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 1: I think that they chose to spend half the money

1945
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 1: that it would have taken to get a guy like

1946
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 1: that on mccordy. I would rather take that money and

1947
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 1: give it to a corner, a young corner. I think

1948
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:56,599
Speaker 1: they can do both. But you know, we'll see if

1949
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 1: they do. I don't know, they're gonna have to get

1950
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 1: another corner. I mean, okay, then I'll rephrase it. I

1951
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:03,639
Speaker 1: would rather have taken half the money from ac Cordy,

1952
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 1: got in a corner, and then taken the rest and

1953
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 1: gotten someone else. Okay, all right, Like we can just

1954
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 1: keep sad. They could do both. They could do it. Yeah,

1955
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 1: they could sign anybody they want. We get that, but

1956
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like they're going to. I just don't think,

1957
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, the signing of Accordy indicates that. I think

1958
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 1: it's an indication that the direction that they're going, they're

1959
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:28,599
Speaker 1: decided to keep the veterans intact and go that way

1960
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:30,640
Speaker 1: because for whatever reason they felt like they needed to

1961
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:35,880
Speaker 1: And the most often repeated reason for it from the

1962
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 1: Phil Perry's, the Tom Currents, the Mike Reeses is culture.

1963
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:41,599
Speaker 1: They felt like it was important to us to keep

1964
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,719
Speaker 1: the leaders in place at once. At some point, I wonder,

1965
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 1: maybe get some coaches that can be leaders, and then

1966
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:49,800
Speaker 1: you won't have to worry about your players doing it too.

1967
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I think you always need to circle the wagon. Guys.

1968
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:56,640
Speaker 1: Every coach says that, Yeah, let's get either of them.

1969
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 1: It's a balance. It's a balance. I mean, I don't

1970
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 1: think you can just, you know, turn everybody over because

1971
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 1: it wasn't good. But no, I wasn't in favor of

1972
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 1: turning everybody over. I would have liked to have seen

1973
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 1: one guy go which one, two guys go which one. Mccordy.

1974
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 1: I don't think mccordy is worth the money. That's why

1975
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:16,640
Speaker 1: I brought up the question earlier about him or the

1976
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 1: honey Badger or take your pick, right, Thomas, he would

1977
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 1: rather have mccordy, right, But my my preferred choice is

1978
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:29,640
Speaker 1: Phillips and daughter. Well they've got them. But but but

1979
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:31,160
Speaker 1: now one of them won't play as much as I

1980
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 1: want him to play, because mccordy will play every snap.

1981
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:36,920
Speaker 1: Much like last year when I had all of these

1982
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 1: linebackers that I wanted to see play, they didn't play

1983
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 1: because High Tower played every snap and Collins came in

1984
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 1: in the middle of the year. They play a lot

1985
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:47,400
Speaker 1: of dimes, they play a lot of three corner and

1986
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 1: a lot of three safeties. I want less of one

1987
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:54,559
Speaker 1: of the three as that, but it won't happen. Mccordy

1988
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 1: will play every snap. I just him in his bonnet,

1989
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:04,760
Speaker 1: just like this beats all right, listen. I mean I

1990
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 1: could sit here and put a smiley face on it

1991
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:08,639
Speaker 1: and just say, hey, it's great that all these guys

1992
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:10,880
Speaker 1: are that's the passion I love. I don't think it's

1993
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:12,720
Speaker 1: great that all these guys are back. I'm a very

1994
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 1: mediocreep guys, three guys, and you brought them all back.

1995
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:18,639
Speaker 1: Three guys, but they were more than that. They didn't

1996
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 1: bring them all back. I can't get worked up about

1997
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: those three. I can get worked up about the lack

1998
01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 1: of young talent and that I just don't feel that

1999
01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 1: that those guys are really I guess I stunting the

2000
01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:32,200
Speaker 1: growth of anybody, because you don't have less than of

2001
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:34,559
Speaker 1: mccordy last year than you guys did. I thought mccordy

2002
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:36,639
Speaker 1: was a big part of the problem last year at times.

2003
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:38,880
Speaker 1: Big I just thought he's I think he's fine. I

2004
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 1: think he plays free safety now and the other two

2005
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 1: guys do the heavy lifting and he just kind of

2006
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 1: keeps everything on the back end in order. And I

2007
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 1: thought mccordy was gone. Remember that, Remember that mackenzie run

2008
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 1: down the sideline in the playoff game. Cordy came over

2009
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:51,800
Speaker 1: this way and then turned just chased them up aside,

2010
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:53,600
Speaker 1: like I have like eight of those in mind. I

2011
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 1: do too. That's why I didn't think he was coming

2012
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 1: back bad angles. Like you know, you're talking about you

2013
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:00,120
Speaker 1: need someone to get the calls in. But he was

2014
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 1: the one who's complained about the calls. Ye, like, I

2015
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:07,360
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, And again this is not about his career, No,

2016
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 1: it's about right now. I'm talking about right now. If

2017
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:13,439
Speaker 1: we're talking about patriots, Devin mccordy's a great patriot, great,

2018
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:16,760
Speaker 1: not a good one. Great. Same with James White, same

2019
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:22,680
Speaker 1: with Matthew Slater, same with Dante Hi. Great players, I

2020
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 1: would think, so, yeah, yeah, I mean, especially based on precedent. Well,

2021
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:30,639
Speaker 1: I didn't want to say that. Especially based on precedent.

2022
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 1: He belongs over about half the guys that we've elected. Yeah,

2023
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:37,759
Speaker 1: all right, let's get back to the phones. They're stacked

2024
01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:46,639
Speaker 1: up here. Let's get to Brian in Indiana. What's up, Brian? Hey, Hey, Hey,

2025
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:49,840
Speaker 1: I'm not even I'm on your side of the argument, Paul,

2026
01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:52,760
Speaker 1: but I'm not even surprised. I mean, and y'all I

2027
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 1: just heard y'all McCarthy good, great, great, Patriot. That not

2028
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 1: to me. I didn't like the contract like he got

2029
01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 1: last time they resigned him. That's just my personal opinion

2030
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 1: on him. I've always felt like he was this is

2031
01:43:10,479 --> 01:43:12,960
Speaker 1: my thing, and I wasn't gonna call. But listening to

2032
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:16,400
Speaker 1: Paul and Douce, I mean, not Paul, listening to Fred

2033
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 1: induced frustrates me. Uh. Had Bill chose to get rid

2034
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:24,599
Speaker 1: of all of these people that you complaining about, Paul,

2035
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:27,560
Speaker 1: it would have been the right thing to do, and

2036
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 1: everybody would be excited for you, Fred and Deuce Da.

2037
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:36,080
Speaker 1: Whatever Bill does is the right thing. I mean, I

2038
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 1: don't see why you still fighting. You've been working with Paul.

2039
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 1: You've been working with Fred for how long? I know,

2040
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 1: But I still fight him now, and I'm starting to

2041
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:50,639
Speaker 1: like fightin. I'm lockstep with y'all. Get him out. Jason

2042
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 1: Jackson's check out. Y'all gonna want to pay him fine?

2043
01:43:57,400 --> 01:44:00,559
Speaker 1: The Dana pisses me off about the boss just sports media,

2044
01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 1: and I knew it. It was like clockwork, Okay, everybody

2045
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 1: been saying they can I go sign Jackson. It's kind

2046
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,560
Speaker 1: of been a foregone conclusion for months. They wouldn't go

2047
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 1: resign them, right, of course, here comes to smear campaign.

2048
01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:16,599
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm hearing all of these things about Jackson

2049
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:19,679
Speaker 1: that I didn't hear in the two or three years

2050
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:23,640
Speaker 1: prior that he was here, before his contract was coming up.

2051
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 1: And it's just typical and it gets under my skin.

2052
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 1: Who's saying what? But not on this show cartel ever

2053
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:41,439
Speaker 1: heard before? But here we go convene Bard and all

2054
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 1: the rest of the wager carriers as Paul like to

2055
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:50,800
Speaker 1: call them, And uh, it's disconcerting. And I don't know,

2056
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't, I ain't, I ain't got the answers. I'm

2057
01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:56,519
Speaker 1: not the gem Bill is, But that don't mean I

2058
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 1: can't have an opinion on what I think his g

2059
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 1: M has turned his gem uh skills a problems, has

2060
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:07,360
Speaker 1: turned this team into into me is no talent? I mean,

2061
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 1: dude's will at least complain about that? And and one

2062
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:15,560
Speaker 1: more thing before I let y'all go. Paul, I'm not

2063
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:18,960
Speaker 1: fighting the youth moving no more. And the reason I'm

2064
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 1: not fightingigas because for what get all of these young guys,

2065
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:27,479
Speaker 1: Bill's not going to play him anyway. Yeah right, I mean,

2066
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 1: I know you're right, Christian Barma, You're right, absolutely right,

2067
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:35,799
Speaker 1: all right? You know. Another part of this that worries

2068
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 1: me is I wonder if maybe he's doing this because

2069
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 1: he ain't gonna be around that much longer, and he

2070
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 1: knows it. I think he wants to win football games still, right,

2071
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 1: So the better way to win football games is to

2072
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 1: retain your thirty eight year old guys. Not according to you, No, maybe, no,

2073
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 1: maybe this year right now, you're better off by bringing

2074
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 1: those guys back, but you're not better off long term.

2075
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 1: I always i Bill cared about both, because that's what

2076
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:04,479
Speaker 1: he's always told me. But now I'm wondering if maybe

2077
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:06,639
Speaker 1: he just looks at it says, whatever gets me those

2078
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:09,240
Speaker 1: twenty wins or thirty wins or whatever I need now

2079
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 1: I can get out of here as fast as I can.

2080
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the better thing for him. I mean, how

2081
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:19,720
Speaker 1: many guys are under contract for twenty twenty three, Mike Well, No,

2082
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:25,640
Speaker 1: nineteen now, James White right right, right, right? Yeah, I

2083
01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 1: don't know he brings back Nicko Vicha McGinnis, I'll get where. Yeah,

2084
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:32,639
Speaker 1: I don't know why Brian's he might as well. They

2085
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:34,799
Speaker 1: did as much for the defense last year of his mccardick.

2086
01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know this was going to be such a

2087
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:42,160
Speaker 1: hot hot buttons. All right, But I'd just like to

2088
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 1: say in my defense against Brian that I didn't think J. C.

2089
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 1: Jackson was staying here a month after I started working,

2090
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:50,840
Speaker 1: and I saw him stand in the locker room and

2091
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 1: they asked him about Juju Smith Schuster and he rolled

2092
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:56,679
Speaker 1: his eyes and gave up. And that right there, I said,

2093
01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:59,200
Speaker 1: this guy ain't long for here. That was my question

2094
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 1: right there, right there. So I'm not coming out to

2095
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:04,559
Speaker 1: blast him or anything, but this whole time, every time

2096
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 1: he's done an interview, he's not one of their guys.

2097
01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:09,439
Speaker 1: And you can say not my I'm not. I'm just

2098
01:47:09,560 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 1: telling you what they want in a cornerback, what they're

2099
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 1: going to give forty million guaranteed, not that guy. Not

2100
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 1: that guy. And I knew it two years ago. Okay, yeah,

2101
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 1: but you didn't rip them. No, you didn't say all

2102
01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 1: this stuff. Is why I've said this though, I said,

2103
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:25,599
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what he's making fun of, coming out

2104
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:27,680
Speaker 1: saying making fun of you. No, he's making fun of

2105
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 1: the people that are smearing him. You said you didn't

2106
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 1: think they'd resign him. I get they said they didn't

2107
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 1: resign him because he's lazy, he doesn't show up to

2108
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 1: meetings sometime, he's a bad guy. I just it's a

2109
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:39,320
Speaker 1: big difference. But I'm just trying to say though that

2110
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:42,800
Speaker 1: on this show, we talk about it, and we talked

2111
01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:44,559
Speaker 1: and that, and that was something that I was saying

2112
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:46,720
Speaker 1: here when I just started here. So like, you know,

2113
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 1: don't say that nobody at jac Jackson was a dream

2114
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:52,559
Speaker 1: and oh, how could this possibly happen? Because we've been talking,

2115
01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:54,639
Speaker 1: We've been debating it all year. I mean, Fred came

2116
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:56,400
Speaker 1: out for him in this seas Mike and I and

2117
01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:58,439
Speaker 1: we were saying, I don't think it's gonna happen, and

2118
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:00,960
Speaker 1: so we've been talking about it for a while. I'm

2119
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:02,640
Speaker 1: not gonna speak to any of the Nikovich stuff, but

2120
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:05,679
Speaker 1: just but it's not just the nick of it stuff.

2121
01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:07,840
Speaker 1: If you've read the stuff and they're telling you about

2122
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 1: how he's he's, he's okay, he's like during the season

2123
01:48:11,320 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 1: he was mister Iant on you know the local writers

2124
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 1: twitter feeds, mister Iant strikes again. But now when it

2125
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 1: got to the point where they clearly had told everybody

2126
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:24,960
Speaker 1: Queen resigning again, Uh, you know, he's you know, that's

2127
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:27,360
Speaker 1: a lot of money for a good not great corner

2128
01:48:27,439 --> 01:48:30,160
Speaker 1: I read yesterday in a number of places, not just

2129
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:34,840
Speaker 1: Rob Nikovich, but to Mike's point, Mike felt Mike had

2130
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:38,040
Speaker 1: a vibe yeh from the player, that he didn't seem

2131
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:40,760
Speaker 1: like a patriot guy that they would invest in long term.

2132
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:42,680
Speaker 1: But and Mike and I were lockstep on you, and

2133
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 1: Mike's right about like the type of player. But if

2134
01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:50,400
Speaker 1: you're looking at good cornerbacks, they're all like that, you know,

2135
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 1: like you're not gonna get like. I agree, that's why

2136
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:57,760
Speaker 1: they just all by the corner. By the way, good

2137
01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:00,559
Speaker 1: wide receive the same thing. They all have their swagger

2138
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:03,000
Speaker 1: and attitude, speak their mind, but just go over it.

2139
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 1: I mean it was by the way, I agree with

2140
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:09,800
Speaker 1: Carlos Heel on the revolution to speaking speak their mind.

2141
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:12,840
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be playing in those conditions. You shouldn't. They

2142
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 1: should not be playing games in March. I didn't hear

2143
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:17,599
Speaker 1: him complaining when they won the game of a couple

2144
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:19,479
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. I understand that, but I'm just saying

2145
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:21,679
Speaker 1: the same type of condition. It was crazy. I don't care.

2146
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 1: I don't like the MLL schedule in March, and I'm

2147
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:26,920
Speaker 1: sure there's a million reasons why you need to do it.

2148
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 1: I don't like it. Well I took a turn, yeah,

2149
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:32,479
Speaker 1: just to make a few more speaking their mind, to

2150
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:35,320
Speaker 1: make a few more people hate me. Uh. Jamison Williams,

2151
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 1: same vibe with him. Not not their kind of guy.

2152
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 1: So sorry to all the guys who want him. That's

2153
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:42,599
Speaker 1: the same vibe I got about him when I heard

2154
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:45,000
Speaker 1: him talking in Indian. But but but that's to me,

2155
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:47,680
Speaker 1: that's relevant. What he's telling you was relevant. It is.

2156
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you they're making a mistake. What what? What?

2157
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:55,519
Speaker 1: No like? And you know why Paul Paul acts like

2158
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 1: I never say these things. I do be but usually

2159
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:04,120
Speaker 1: well they rare yes, you know, I've been saying this

2160
01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:07,599
Speaker 1: for a while. Wide receivers, cornerbacks, you got to coach

2161
01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:10,640
Speaker 1: them if if you know, if you don't like their personality,

2162
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to work through that because there's very

2163
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:17,720
Speaker 1: few of them are like Matthew Slater as as a

2164
01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:21,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver or cornerback, I mean, can I ask a

2165
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:25,519
Speaker 1: question like as an owner, mister Kraft, you know, is

2166
01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 1: this is this? And I don't want to, you know,

2167
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 1: try to make anybody speak for them, but as an

2168
01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:31,799
Speaker 1: ownership looking down at a head coach hand and GM

2169
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:35,760
Speaker 1: giving out your money. Uh do you like that? Do

2170
01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:40,120
Speaker 1: you like how? Because the bar is extremely high, and

2171
01:50:40,240 --> 01:50:43,240
Speaker 1: I agree it's it's probably too high even regardless of

2172
01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:45,160
Speaker 1: stuff we're talking about right now, because who on the

2173
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:48,639
Speaker 1: roster right now has been extended? Who like Shaq Mason?

2174
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 1: I think I think as an owner, guys, I think

2175
01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 1: as an owner, you don't pick like that as long

2176
01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:55,760
Speaker 1: as you're winning. Later if if you have if you

2177
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 1: have several seasons in a row, if you have several

2178
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 1: seasons in a row or you're not, then you start

2179
01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:03,800
Speaker 1: nitpicking things like that. Yeah, but as an owner, you don't.

2180
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:08,240
Speaker 1: You don't worry about those details until you're not winning

2181
01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:10,320
Speaker 1: any because it's just like on the surface, they're not

2182
01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 1: winning anymore. Yeah, they did win. They did win. Unbelievable,

2183
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:16,680
Speaker 1: they haven't won a game of two years. They left

2184
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:20,800
Speaker 1: a bad taste in your mouth. They did. They can

2185
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:24,599
Speaker 1: we not a quate not going winless and not winning

2186
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 1: like you don't have to go. But it's slowly it

2187
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:29,640
Speaker 1: goes from seven and nine and ten and seven to

2188
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:34,200
Speaker 1: like it's really what it is, seventeen and seventeen over

2189
01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:37,160
Speaker 1: the last two years. Okay, so that's that's that's that's

2190
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:40,679
Speaker 1: that's fact. That's not Paul Snart. There average, that's average,

2191
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 1: and Bill players average five hundred. You know, you can

2192
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:52,000
Speaker 1: play that game anyway you want. But you know there's

2193
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 1: there's still I'm sorry, what game are we playing? You

2194
01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:56,640
Speaker 1: know where they not go seventeen and seventeen last year?

2195
01:51:57,160 --> 01:51:59,639
Speaker 1: Bill Parcels not be a five hundred coach with the Patriots?

2196
01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:02,560
Speaker 1: What was he as a Patriots coach? Yes, you know

2197
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:06,120
Speaker 1: he was. I mean he's a bad coach. Who said

2198
01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:07,960
Speaker 1: that Bill is a bad coach? You know? Do you

2199
01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:10,840
Speaker 1: talk about making things up? No one ever said anything

2200
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:13,960
Speaker 1: about belichick coaching ability. I just think as if I'm

2201
01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:18,320
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft, I'm not freaking out yet. You know, I

2202
01:52:18,439 --> 01:52:21,680
Speaker 1: saw improvement. I got, we got our quarterback who we

2203
01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:25,679
Speaker 1: think we can work with. I see things. Okay, Now,

2204
01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 1: like I said, if you have four seasons in a

2205
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:31,639
Speaker 1: row that you know they get worse, then you start

2206
01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 1: nitpicking Bill. Then you start looking at you know who,

2207
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:37,840
Speaker 1: you know, the little things that we were just talking about.

2208
01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 1: But right now, like it's kind of waiting the owner.

2209
01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 1: I think a good leader looks at things as they're happening.

2210
01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:46,600
Speaker 1: And doesn't wait for the results to determine whether or

2211
01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:48,800
Speaker 1: not they were good moves. Yeah, I think you look

2212
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:50,720
Speaker 1: get out in front of things, well, like what are

2213
01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:52,639
Speaker 1: we doing? Do you do? You really want your owner

2214
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 1: in there saying you know, why did you do this?

2215
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:56,639
Speaker 1: Why did you do? When you analyze it? You don't

2216
01:52:56,680 --> 01:52:59,560
Speaker 1: wait to see what happens. Well, well, I don't know.

2217
01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:02,639
Speaker 1: I think earned a little bit of leeway. He's had

2218
01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 1: a lots had it, and he's earned it. He's had

2219
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:07,400
Speaker 1: a lot of it. So what do you? I mean, like,

2220
01:53:07,640 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 1: who are you railing against? Who has the giving him leeway? You? You? You?

2221
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:14,519
Speaker 1: He made a couple of signings I disagree with. I

2222
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:16,960
Speaker 1: don't want him fired. I mean, let's not make stuff

2223
01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:20,720
Speaker 1: up for I don't know almost I thought I heard.

2224
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:22,720
Speaker 1: I want to I want to pose a question, and

2225
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:24,639
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I should because it might be fodder

2226
01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:27,080
Speaker 1: for for years side of the street. But please, we

2227
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 1: got only fifty three They in the in like the

2228
01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 1: first iteration of the dynasty, did they did they do this?

2229
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:35,680
Speaker 1: Did they hang on to guys too long? Did they

2230
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:39,559
Speaker 1: give contracts to guys where? Well, they did the opposite.

2231
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:43,280
Speaker 1: They did older guys. They constantly recycled the rost. They

2232
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 1: brought in on the guys immediately, and you know, I

2233
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:48,479
Speaker 1: brought in Bobby Hamilton and Brian Cotts. He brought in

2234
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:51,519
Speaker 1: veterans in and out and out, but you can't have

2235
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 1: those guys staying around too. He brought in veterans that

2236
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:57,840
Speaker 1: he knew, like he could count on until he got

2237
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:00,439
Speaker 1: the younger guys to play. Yeah, McGinnis led them on.

2238
01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:04,960
Speaker 1: Right now, you're kind of beginning things. Bruskie was different,

2239
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:07,360
Speaker 1: yea of his health thing, but that you haven't seen

2240
01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:11,840
Speaker 1: those guys play yet, those younger guys enough, right. I

2241
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:15,160
Speaker 1: think that Deuce has hit on the problem. And this

2242
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:17,560
Speaker 1: is why I why I feel like they've done what

2243
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:21,720
Speaker 1: they're doing right now, is because back then it was, yeah,

2244
01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:23,360
Speaker 1: we can let that guy go because we got this

2245
01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:26,000
Speaker 1: guy coming. We can let Damien Woody go. We got

2246
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:28,360
Speaker 1: Dan Copen in the fifth round. Like, just as an

2247
01:54:28,520 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 1: example right off the top of my head, we can

2248
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:33,000
Speaker 1: let Ted Washington walk after a year because we're drafting

2249
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:38,000
Speaker 1: Itz Wilford and you know, trailer, They're not doing that

2250
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:40,680
Speaker 1: in a consistent basis anymore on that one. And that's

2251
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:42,720
Speaker 1: why I feel like that they need to retain some

2252
01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 1: of these guys because they feel like they can still help. Unfortunately, unfortunately,

2253
01:54:48,120 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 1: because I don't think what you have is good enough.

2254
01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:52,200
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry that I feel that way, but that's

2255
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:55,800
Speaker 1: how I feel like. I guess that's sitting poorly at

2256
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:58,840
Speaker 1: some I just think on every team, every coach needs

2257
01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 1: their guys that they can do Penn done, you know,

2258
01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:06,280
Speaker 1: like the old how many of them? But again, like

2259
01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:09,640
Speaker 1: how many are we talking about? It feels like everybody

2260
01:55:09,800 --> 01:55:12,840
Speaker 1: after it after it's not. It feels like it, but

2261
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 1: it's not. But it's every move they made has been

2262
01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 1: with that in mind. Well that's initially, let's see what happens.

2263
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 1: Okay again different on Thursday, they resigned mc cordy. Next

2264
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:26,280
Speaker 1: tuesday later and James White. Next tuesday, we might be

2265
01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:29,760
Speaker 1: talking about four new guys that they might sign, Darius Williams,

2266
01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 1: Alan Robinson and Miles Jack. And I'll have a totally

2267
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:35,920
Speaker 1: different tone. You're not gonna be here Thursday. I'll have

2268
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:37,720
Speaker 1: a totally different tone if they go out and they

2269
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:42,160
Speaker 1: sign younger, big money guys and and and an infusion

2270
01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 1: of town and I'll and I'll go on your side

2271
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:46,040
Speaker 1: the street, and I'll have a different tone. If they

2272
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:49,040
Speaker 1: bring back High Tower and Bentley and I'll have a

2273
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:51,520
Speaker 1: different tone. Yeah, yeah, you know so that I don't

2274
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:53,320
Speaker 1: think that one more will put you over the topic.

2275
01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 1: I sign High Tower that that'll be it. I said,

2276
01:55:55,560 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 1: what are they doing? And you know, well, Bentley's young.

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01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:00,480
Speaker 1: Bentley doesn't fall into me. But it's kind of like,

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01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:04,080
Speaker 1: you know, like he's a young player, too big. He's

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01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:09,080
Speaker 1: only four years ago, as was just I mean, it's funny,

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01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 1: you know, but bent least not my problem, Like he's

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01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:14,480
Speaker 1: not thirty five years old. I don't like if they've

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01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:16,760
Speaker 1: resigned Bentley, I'm not going to add him to the

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01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:19,160
Speaker 1: list of I can't believe they're resigning all of these

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01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:21,440
Speaker 1: thirty somethings because he's not you'll put them on the

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01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:23,120
Speaker 1: I can't believe they said, of these guys that can't run,

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01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:27,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, is he any different than efreny Uh?

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01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:30,520
Speaker 1: I mean, m what's this guy's name, Ray Kuan McMillan. No,

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01:56:30,680 --> 01:56:32,880
Speaker 1: you think Ray Kuan McMillan can run any better than Bentley?

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01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 1: Run at all? Right now? Yah? Oh my knee? What

2290
01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:45,280
Speaker 1: this once? It's coming back up on him to fight it.

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01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:51,240
Speaker 1: I'm boy. Yeah, I'm just I am a little jacked

2292
01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:55,400
Speaker 1: up today, no question, I I thought. And it's funny

2293
01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:59,040
Speaker 1: because this is exactly what I expected, And sometimes when

2294
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:03,200
Speaker 1: you're right, it's even more because I just think that

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01:57:03,240 --> 01:57:06,600
Speaker 1: they needed to they needed to take steps. I thought

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01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 1: they took steps last year to bring in some younger guys,

2297
01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:13,240
Speaker 1: and I thought they needed to continue that, to continue

2298
01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 1: to recycle through that. And I think that they've been

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01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:18,800
Speaker 1: literally reluctant to do it. And I don't, but I

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01:57:19,120 --> 01:57:22,920
Speaker 1: don't think that what they've done eliminates the possibility of

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01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:26,720
Speaker 1: that happening. Hey, I do, yeah, Okay, it's just more

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01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:28,480
Speaker 1: of a perception kind of thing. I don't think there

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01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:33,520
Speaker 1: are openings now that are apparent to a perspective free agent.

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01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:37,720
Speaker 1: You know, with something there's certainly a wide receiver, there's

2305
01:57:37,720 --> 01:57:40,120
Speaker 1: a yeah, there's a job, but there's only one wide

2306
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:42,200
Speaker 1: receiver worth taking. I don't think they're going to be

2307
01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 1: in I think there's plenty of openings. I think the

2308
01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:49,520
Speaker 1: whole rosters open for crying out loud, starting corner, corner, linebacker,

2309
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:53,720
Speaker 1: front line. Okay, but if you're gonna like you can

2310
01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:59,000
Speaker 1: sign Jalen Mills. I wanted to sign like a good player,

2311
01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 1: like a guy that was worth right, you know, Like

2312
01:58:03,960 --> 01:58:07,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to just sign like a patchwork guy. Like, yeah,

2313
01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:10,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna sign. They're probably gonna sign a cornerback. Yeah,

2314
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:13,120
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna get blood twins. But it's not

2315
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:16,920
Speaker 1: gonna be you know, yeah, it's not gonna be the

2316
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:21,320
Speaker 1: guy that's jac Jackson's caliber. Listen, I'm on record saying

2317
01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:23,400
Speaker 1: they should have jac Jackson to be on the team

2318
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:25,040
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah you are. I mean, what can else

2319
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:29,560
Speaker 1: you think you'd be disappointed by that? But you're not. Listen,

2320
01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:32,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna move on. I can't. I can't dwell on it.

2321
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:36,240
Speaker 1: I gotta move on. You know, we got football. It

2322
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:39,880
Speaker 1: just it just feels like it just feels like that, Yes,

2323
01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:43,040
Speaker 1: we got football to play. They were ten and seven

2324
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:45,760
Speaker 1: and they made the playoffs. But I think the way

2325
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:49,480
Speaker 1: the season ended and they will be remembering, and the

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01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:52,520
Speaker 1: way the AFC is evolving around them, it makes it

2327
01:58:52,640 --> 01:58:55,520
Speaker 1: look like they're stuck in quicksand right now, right now,

2328
01:58:55,600 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 1: they are in Okay, Well, that's all I'm commenting on.

2329
01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm not commenting on I get but but and I

2330
01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:03,840
Speaker 1: agree with that, but I don't think the signing of

2331
01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:07,280
Speaker 1: these three guys makes it any worse, Let's put it

2332
01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 1: that way. But it doesn't make it any better. But

2333
01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 1: but it's the point. But right, yeah, but I don't

2334
01:59:11,160 --> 01:59:13,720
Speaker 1: think it prevents them from making it better either. Well,

2335
01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:15,720
Speaker 1: but Mike said it earlier in the show. They need

2336
01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:19,160
Speaker 1: to hit in the draft, whether or not they signed

2337
01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:21,560
Speaker 1: those three guys, they need to do that. Yes, you know,

2338
01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:24,000
Speaker 1: so that's what I'm saying. But it would I think

2339
01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:26,880
Speaker 1: people wanted, had had at least a little bit of

2340
01:59:26,920 --> 01:59:30,000
Speaker 1: hope that they would do something to improving. We all

2341
01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:32,560
Speaker 1: said that, right, we all said that at the beginning

2342
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:35,800
Speaker 1: of the show. We're not surprised, but we all wanted

2343
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:39,200
Speaker 1: to be surprised. Yeah, you know, I'm still there. I

2344
01:59:39,360 --> 01:59:43,320
Speaker 1: wanted I'm still hoping to be surprised. You know, there'll

2345
01:59:43,360 --> 01:59:46,080
Speaker 1: be somebody we'll see. I just hope there is something

2346
01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:48,760
Speaker 1: crazy or happens tomorrow and then we don't have pp

2347
01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:53,840
Speaker 1: over here. They signed like an eighteen year old kid,

2348
01:59:53,880 --> 01:59:57,000
Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, we got younger from his couch.

2349
01:59:57,200 --> 01:59:59,560
Speaker 1: If they signed uh, if they signed Miles Jack, we

2350
01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:02,520
Speaker 1: could do it emergency podcast tomorrow. All right, that's gonna

2351
02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:05,520
Speaker 1: be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered, lively show,

2352
02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:09,680
Speaker 1: very passionate as it is, can imagine what the football

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02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:17,160
Speaker 1: offices are right now. I'll need a nap, all right.

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02:00:17,240 --> 02:00:22,520
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