1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Okay, we're you know, we're rolling on a short week here. UM. 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: I think the players have tried to do a good 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: job from the Washington game of I'm trying to get rested, 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: good treatment, get rehabbed, and you know, be ready to 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: go Thursday night. We certainly have a lot to get 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: ready for with the Giants. Some good football team, well coached, UM. 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: Really an attacking type of team in all three phases 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: of the game. UM, special teams, a good coverage team, UM, 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: good return game. They've had explosive plays in both pressure 10 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: pressure with the kickers specialists with their hunting field goal rushes. UM. Defensively, 11 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: a lot of pressures, a lot of good mixture of 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: man to man zone coverage, but with some kind of 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: pressure factored in there a lot. So that's certainly a problem. 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: The strong physical guys up front and great skill players 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: offensively Barkley Ingram, Um. You know Slayton's made some big 16 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: place for him, Lottomer. So they do do a good 17 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: job because Sherman is a good job using all this personnel, 18 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: different personnel groupings, fullback, tight ends, receivers, UM and play 19 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: fast played a good UM, not no huddle fast, but 20 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: play fast in terms of after the wall snapped. Um, 21 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: they separate and get into the defense quickly and force 22 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: you to cover a lot of ground deal with a 23 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: lot of different problems in the running game. So I 24 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: got a lot of work to do. Get started here today, 25 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: Get as much as we can get done today, and 26 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: you don't finish enough tomorrow and then it'll be time 27 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: to get ready to go. So um or we're often running. 28 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: Where's your animal? Calling you for question? For good Bill, 29 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: I see to be married injury questions with the giants 30 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: right now, Ingram and Gallman and San how do you 31 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: deal with all there that they have right now? Yeah, 32 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: we'll be ready for everybody until they're out. But yeah, 33 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: spect multiplayer will prepare for all of them to play. 34 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: And they had a lot of good players. Um, but 35 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: look they've gotten good depth. They have good depth, and 36 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: they've gotten good play for a lot of different players. 37 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I just start with Jones stepping into for Manning. 38 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: I mean there's you know, two good quarterbacks. So, um, 39 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: they've moved the ball and effectively against everybody. When you 40 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: look at Daniel Jones since he stepped in, is he 41 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: working with the entire offense? There or they kind of 42 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: brought him along and opened up just the chapter here there. 43 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I'd say he runs the offense. I 44 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: mean you have to ask them that on specifics, but 45 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: they they do what they again, they have it's like 46 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: a West Coast based offense with some certainly an empstas 47 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: on the running game of the play action passes as well. 48 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: It's all some RPOs and things like that, so those 49 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: are all part of what he does. Um, it would 50 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: be the same plant game plan if Eli was in there. 51 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if you'd got to ask them that, 52 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: but I don't see them holding back anything. And he's 53 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: very athletic. He's um mobile. UM. I wouldn't say he's 54 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, just go back and start running. But if 55 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: he needs to run, if the protection breaks down or 56 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: if there's an opening there he gets outside the pocket. Um, 57 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: he can cause a lot of damage with his his 58 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: speed and his ability extent plays. But he's very accurate 59 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: quarterback and has good poise. He's showing good toughness in 60 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: the pocket. He's been hit a few times, but he 61 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: just stands in there and you can keep ripping it. 62 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: So he's been impressing Bill. How tough it this is 63 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: you was he? He stated? Release Ben Watson? What did 64 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: he great with the team going back to camp? Yeah, 65 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: you know, uh like Ben just we don't have a 66 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: roster spot for him right now, and so maybe that'll change, 67 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: But for the moment, that's where it is. Isn't there 68 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: any to carry over? You mentioned to the West Coast 69 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: system from them, what you guys, sang inst Washington. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, 70 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: there's some similar concepts, um, but there are a lot 71 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: of differences. Certainly, the players are a lot different. I mean, 72 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: just starting with Ingram, you know, he's different than most 73 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: than any tight end we faced. It's really like owing 74 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: a receiver at tight end, but he's also involved in 75 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: on the parts of the game, so it's it's not 76 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: four receivers. But he's certainly not a tight end either. 77 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: So um, so it starts with you know, guys, even 78 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: though it's the same place, you start putting a guy 79 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: like that in there, that changes things. Barkley. We haven't 80 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: seen anybody about like Barkley all year or so that's 81 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: that changes things too. I'm understanding Berkeley might not play, 82 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: he might play. I'm just building up what you just 83 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: said that you haven't seen anyone like it in what 84 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: way everywhere? I mean, he's in more production than any 85 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: player in the history of the game and the time 86 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: that he's played so ninety one catches or whatever it 87 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: was last year. Receiver, runner, power, speed, athleticism, It's hard 88 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: to tackle. It's do it all. Okay, you said that 89 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: you guys didn't have space for Ben Watson. What have 90 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: you seen from the tight ends that are on the 91 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: roster that talks about how mad you hadn't quite gotten 92 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: enough practice time with his limitations? Where about the honor 93 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: players that are developing and you know, we feel like 94 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: I had some upside. I've done a decent job for us. 95 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: Um suddenly you know, have a ways to go, but 96 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: I'll have had enough production to us. Don't want to 97 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: skip want that, we want to keep working with them. Sorry, Bill, 98 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: I want to ask about a special teams played during 99 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: the Redslins game. It looked like there's one play I 100 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: think this Terrence Brooks was applying about like thirteen yards 101 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: off the ball, similar in depth to the punker. What 102 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: made you try to try that out with a player 103 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: like Terrence and what sort of affectiist it had changing 104 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: position of a gunner type player like that. Yeah, we've 105 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: run that before and we can't leave before the ball 106 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: is kicked, but puts another player in space to be 107 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: able to cover the punt. So that's the idea of it. 108 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: Ask your question pretty much. I just wanted, um, well, 109 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: what advantages of having a guy that does I create 110 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: versus having a guy towards the Latin scrimmage? Well, if 111 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: you put him on line of scrimmage, you know, you 112 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: can't release until the balls punted. I put him behind 113 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, he could get a run and 114 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: start not cross the line, but when he has a 115 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, be going full speed, which would put 116 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: him down into the coverage quicker good leh warner him 117 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: what it's been like to coach Michael Bennett so far 118 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: this season and what you guys have gotten out of it. Yeah, good, 119 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: Michael's a smart players, got a lot of experience. There's 120 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: a lot of um he's spent in a different system, 121 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: so he's kind of adapted our system. But we've also 122 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: you know, talked to him about some of the things 123 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: that he's done, and um, he obviously you know, has 124 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: a lot of experience and a lot of input not 125 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: just UM against individual players, but also you know, schematically. 126 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: So it's been good. You know, he's really tried hard 127 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: and worked hard to embrace what we've asked him to do, 128 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: which again is quite different than what he's done UM 129 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: Seattle and Philly, even in Tampa. So yeah, it's been fun. 130 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: Snap counting is a little lower than it's been traditionally 131 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: past years. Is that a bunch of him being a 132 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: more veteran player or is just finding out a rule 133 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: for him? Why is that? You know, he's on our team. 134 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: I really I don't care what happened to some other team. 135 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: I don't really know what that was or wasn't. We'll 136 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: try to do it's best for our team. And that's 137 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: that's that's everybody, Sam, and it's everybody else and that 138 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: mccordy snap counts down to see where does Golden Team 139 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: most art posing defense is kind of wentlit areas in 140 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: the field. You know, whenever he gets the ball in 141 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: his hands, UM, it's very dangerous. In the return game. 142 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: Um primarily plays in the slot, but not exclusively. He's 143 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: you know, again good with any play where he runs 144 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: with the ball, So it could be screened speed sweeps. Um, 145 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: you know, but he's also obviously very dangerous receiver, so 146 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: put him in the middle of the formation. That gives 147 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: him the most options to go across, to go vertical, 148 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: to go back outside. So he's good at all those 149 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: art you mentioned snaps, the depth of your defense is 150 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: that allow you to rotate guys in a little bit 151 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: more and may We've played a lot of players, so 152 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not sure who snap counts up. I 153 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe you guys can tell me that you've 154 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: rotated a lot of me. We've played twenty players on 155 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: defense last four or five weeks, so naturally you start 156 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:05,599 Speaker 1: splitting it up between twenty guys, that's what you're gonna get. 157 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: Show me how many teams in the league played twenty 158 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: players on defense. I don't know, not too many here, Bill, 159 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: Is that kind of rotation? Is that just a product 160 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: of the talent you feel like you have on that 161 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: side of the ball, or is there? Um, I got 162 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: a work management sort of mindset when it comes to 163 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: keeping players fresh in the short term war in the 164 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: long term. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. If Pillow didn't 165 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: look it's we have a lot of good players. Each 166 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: week is his own week. It depends on the situation, 167 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: depends on the game plans, sometimes depends on how they 168 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: play the game. So I didn't know that Watchington was 169 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: gonna be in ten personnel for thirty some plays or 170 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: whatever it was. So that changed some of our playtime. 171 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: And it's not like we go into the game and 172 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: say like there is how many plays each guy's gon play. 173 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we just don't do it that way yet. 174 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of factors. I don't know what 175 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: they all are, but ultimately they all come into play 176 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: and try to do what we thinks best. What do 177 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: you see from Soldier this season? Yeah, that's solid player, 178 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: a veteran player, obviously very experienced. Um it's played all 179 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: all the snaps I've seen a left tackle for it 180 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: has for you know, quite a while though. So he 181 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: Internet has given a good solid side over there. When 182 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: you face an office, very good personnels groups that you have, 183 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: and the second world of the linebackers. If you do 184 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: universe utility, guys can do a lot of different things 185 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: to do. The extremely well aunch of an advantage it 186 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: is that where those guys can be three down linebackers 187 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: can do different things on those three downs. Yeah too. 188 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: Um gives it. Look, we face a different offense every week, 189 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: even if they're saying they're different because of the different personnel. 190 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: So to be able to have players that can do 191 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: multiple things and do them well, this gives you a 192 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: tremendous advantage. You can substitute or you can not substitute, 193 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: and we have a lot of players that fall into 194 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: that category, so we have the ability to sub if 195 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: we want to, or if we don't want to. We 196 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: can let the players play where they normally play and 197 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: they can certainly handle that acquately. This isn't the first 198 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: time this has happened where you're playing a preseason opponent 199 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: in the regular season. But how much, if anything, can 200 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: you take from that preseason family for this week. I mean, 201 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: I don't think too many people that played in that 202 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: game on either side of the ball for either team 203 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: are gonna I don't know how much they're gonna play 204 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: in this game. So I don't think there's a lot 205 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: of a lot of matchups in that game. And you know, schematically, 206 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: i'd say it was pretty watered down from what they 207 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: ran while we were on based on you know, just 208 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: looking back at the game. We'll see what happens on Thursday, 209 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: but I think we'll both teams will do more than 210 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: they did in that game. Be my guess. The final 211 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: question year is Steve go Home. Has Danny Shelton been 212 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: you and I front lane man? Danny's done a good 213 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: job for us. UM. You know, his second year, I 214 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: think he came in with a he was in good shape, 215 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: came out of a great attitude. He surely worked hard 216 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: to um, you know, do the things that we asked 217 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: him to do. Was just a little different than what 218 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: he'd done in the systems that he'd been in Cleveland. UM, 219 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: and he tried to do that last year. I'd say 220 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: this year he's just further ahead on it and UM, 221 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, build on the experiences that he had last 222 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: year and has really, you know, given us a really 223 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: good level of play inside and his roles actually expanded 224 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: from what it was last year because he's been able 225 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: to do more things and he's you know, he's doing 226 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: the things that we've asked him to do at a 227 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: good level. So he's been he's been productive and versatile. UM, 228 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: he's been a big It's been a good job for us. OK, Okay, 229 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: thank you,