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Speaker 1: Had me Saint Patrick's day, it's Brook and Jeffrey. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: got a brand new episode for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who's drunk?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean I wish that I could say that it

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Speaker 1: was two Irish lassies on the phone.

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Speaker 3: For your awkward Tuesday phone call today. But yeah, we

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Speaker 3: really missed the market. Why did we think of that? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's true, that's true.

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Speaker 1: We do have an awkward, brand new awkward call coming

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Speaker 1: up in a second. But first your comments.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this one said. My fifth grade daughter came home

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Speaker 4: today and said, did you hear the second.

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Speaker 5: Date update today?

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Speaker 4: She doesn't have a phone, but we do share a

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Speaker 4: Spotify duo, so I asked her how in the world

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Speaker 4: she heard it, and she told me she logged into

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Speaker 4: her Spotify at school and listened to it. I can

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Speaker 4: only assume it's because we listened to the red comments

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Speaker 4: every day and she heard the one about someone listening

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Speaker 4: in class.

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Speaker 6: And then.

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Speaker 4: Not very happy emoji you know in school?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to listen in school.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe there's a school to that hasn't blocked

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Speaker 3: Good on you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thank you for being here. A brand

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Speaker 5: There are a lot of sentences that have the power

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Speaker 5: to instantly ruin a friendship. Wow, yeah, I guess like

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Speaker 5: I mean, your wedding was okay, it was my favorite nikes.

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Speaker 5: Or your parents just told me I'm like the child

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Speaker 5: is a way better Backstreet boy than Nick.

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Speaker 2: Every Oh my god, how dare you well?

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Speaker 5: One of our listeners admits he managed to ruin a

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Speaker 5: long time friendship with one single sentence. He can't believe

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Speaker 5: he said it, but he's willing to do anything to

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Speaker 5: take it back. Oh goodness, even come on our show

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Speaker 5: and risk nationwide humiliation. Can we save his failing friendship?

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Speaker 5: We're gonna find out in a brand new awkward Tuesday

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Speaker 5: phone call. Next, It's awkward. It's Tuesday. It's awkward Tuesday

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Speaker 5: phone call. Have you ever said something while you were

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Speaker 5: under the influence that came back to haunt you later?

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Speaker 3: He it was, Hey, how you do it?

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Speaker 5: As Brooke would say, what is duh? Yeah? The thing is,

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Speaker 5: most of the time people will forgive you for your stupid,

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Speaker 5: actually affected your friendships with people? Oh yeah, that could

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Speaker 5: pose a problem. And it's why one of our listeners, Joey,

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Speaker 5: has reached out for help today, very interested to hear

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Speaker 5: about this. Joey, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: Hey, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Oh Joey, were you? Were you the drunk one with

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Speaker 3: dumb words?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 6: I didn't think I was too drunk. I thought, at

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Speaker 6: most just a little tipsy. But yeah, definitely an awkward night.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, good to know that. It actually gets worse

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Speaker 5: than what we're about to hear. And I don't know

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Speaker 5: We like what happened.

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Speaker 6: Well, I was at a friend's birthday party last weekend,

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Speaker 6: you know, at a bar, and there's probably like thirty

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Speaker 3: Okayy's having a good time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we shut the place down.

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Speaker 3: Nice.

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Speaker 6: I saw my good friend Vanessa there. We've never been

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Speaker 6: involved with each other, I should say that up front, okay,

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Speaker 6: And from from what I can remember, it was just

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, Yeah, when does the makeout start?

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Speaker 6: No, No, nothing like that, just more of like a

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Speaker 5: Or a shoulder to balance on when you're losing it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, whose breakup was messy? Yours or hers?

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Speaker 3: Hers? Okay, okay, so you I mean that's a good friend.

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Speaker 6: Good. Yeah, she's been a good friend to me over

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, but clearly you're reaching out to us because

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Speaker 3: That nice or it sounds like somebody else remembers it differently.

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Speaker 6: Maybe yea, yeah, apparently because I didn't think anything of it.

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Speaker 6: And the next day I get a call from one

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Speaker 1: WHOA, No, you not like I have a crush on you,

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Speaker 1: Like I fantasize about you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. I started freaking out.

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Speaker 3: Is there a way they could have misheard you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like they were the drunk one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I had hoped, because between us, it

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Speaker 5: It's it's true. Yeah, okay, just going just go into

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Speaker 5: like six or seven details about the fantasy so that

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Speaker 6: Uh no, oh, I think I'll pass on that one.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, you're no song.

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Speaker 1: You gotta say, like, I don't know if this is

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Speaker 1: said he fantasizes about me, it's like icky, it feels

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Speaker 1: like it's crossed a boundary.

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Speaker 3: Especially into him.

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Speaker 4: It just makes it a little like borderline creepy.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, that's why I couldn't believe that I actually

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Speaker 3: Oh, you just straight out asked her.

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Speaker 5: I just asked her, you, wow, we didn't know if

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Speaker 5: it was true.

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Speaker 6: Well yeah, I figured if I couldn't remember, she would yeah.

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Speaker 6: And what was her response, Well, she did remember, and

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Speaker 6: she said yes that I did.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, hopefully you didn't go into detail, right.

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Speaker 6: I didn't get that far. I just immediately started apologizing

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Speaker 6: and she told me to just stop.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so this it's not something that you actually wanted

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Speaker 6: I feel terrible. Okay, one stupid comment. The friendship's ruined,

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Speaker 1: Time he couldn't be worse. Like, she just went through

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Speaker 1: this terrible, messy breakup. The last thing she wants to

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Speaker 1: do is deal with another guy. You know, like you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I s I feel like I'm piling on and

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Speaker 3: I didn't mean to.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're a bad guy and you're keeping all your

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Speaker 3: I get it. I get where he feels bad about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what is your goal here? Just to salvage your friendship?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's one hundred percent. I'm not trying to have

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Speaker 2: That's actually good news, because you're never gonna get back

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Speaker 2: to her romantic spot with her, But we could totally

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Speaker 5: Totally. It sounds super easy. Be like, I'm not attracted

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Speaker 1: Okay, why do we even need to give advice when

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Speaker 1: Jeff's here with that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that would be great.

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Speaker 2: Just say psych and we'll hang up and it'll be

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Speaker 6: I hope that's not your actual advice, because I really

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Speaker 5: Geez, you're so picky about the advice that you want

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Speaker 5: to get on this come begging but okay, okay, I'll think,

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Speaker 5: So what are you trying to tell her?

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Speaker 6: I just want to tell her I'm sorry and it

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Speaker 6: was a stupid thing to say, and I was not

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Speaker 5: Okay, So I guess that's why you need some backup support.

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Speaker 5: We'll all be like, it's totally true. He has zero

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Speaker 5: interest in you romantically. He just wants to be friends.

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Speaker 2: What if Jeff and I outcreep her so much it

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Speaker 6: That's an idea.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's not much of a challenge for me.

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Speaker 5: And I did it in one sentence, like a couple

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Speaker 5: We'll come back. We'll give you a little bit of advice.

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Speaker 5: Get a female perspective that would help brook, Yeah, the

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Speaker 5: Tuesday phone call. Oh boy to your friend to be like,

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Speaker 5: I am sorry for saying that I fantasized about you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's so weird.

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Speaker 5: Just one time, though, it was only once, and never again.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna do it with your awkward Tuesday phone call

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Speaker 5: right after this.

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Speaker 6: It's awkward.

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Speaker 5: It's Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: It's awkward Tuesday phone call.

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Speaker 5: This is a great example of why word choice matters.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, there's a difference between telling your friend years

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Speaker 5: I had a fantasy about you. Those feel very different.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because you could have a crush for a

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Speaker 2: year and that's okay, But yeah, one fantasy for thirty

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it just hits way bicky and unfortunately for our listener, Joey,

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Speaker 5: he said that second one drunkenly to his friend Vanessa,

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Speaker 3: Don't think he added the years ago that would make

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm assuming it wasn't that.

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Speaker 6: Night, Joey, Right, No, not that night.

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Speaker 5: No, oh, okay, maybe a week before. Thing is he

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Speaker 5: doesn't even remember saying it to her, but it has

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Speaker 5: been confirmed by multiple sources, including her. Yep, since someone

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Speaker 5: else at that party overheard it and then word got around,

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Speaker 5: so no surprise. Ever since, things between Joey and Vanessa

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Speaker 5: have been very uncomfortable to say the least, and Joe

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Speaker 5: needs our advice here on how to apologize and walk

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Speaker 5: back what he said to reassure her It was just

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Speaker 5: to be your friend. So, ye Brook, what do you

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 1: I think right now, Joe, we need to concentrate on

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Speaker 1: what you didn't do.

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Speaker 6: What didn't I do?

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Speaker 3: Okay, what you.

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Speaker 1: Didn't do is you didn't inappropriately make a move. You

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Speaker 3: You didn't try to.

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Speaker 1: Kiss her like you respect her as a friend, you

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Speaker 3: Will you try to normalize it?

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Speaker 2: Because I've been fantasizing about this salad.

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Speaker 5: I love this advice, Joey, What do you think?

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Speaker 6: If I'm being honest, I kind of feel like the

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Speaker 5: About that advice for like two songs, I might never

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Speaker 5: All right, Oh boy, We're here to back you up

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Speaker 6: Here we go, Hello, Hey, Vanessa, it's Joey. Oh, okay,

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Speaker 6: what are you doing. I'm calling you because I don't

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Speaker 5: Why related?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, she's my stepsister.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, Im, that doesn't make it.

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Speaker 3: It makes it okay.

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Speaker 5: It's okay to fantasize about.

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Speaker 5: Oh, justify that, Vanessa.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Are you there?

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Speaker 6: What is happening right now? I am so confused.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my co hosts are justifying why it's okay to

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Speaker 3: You know, you did not tell us that you were

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Speaker 6: I didn't think that it was important to mention to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, that's a very important piece.

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Speaker 6: Bro.

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Speaker 5: You was the one standing up. You're from Idaho, so

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Speaker 5: I don't know, but.

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Speaker 6: It's probably the most uncomfortable phone call I have ever had.

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Speaker 1: My advice to him was almost like, why don't you

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Speaker 3: So now I'm wow.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, Joey, Hey, I'm with Brooke. It's not

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Speaker 5: It's weird to talk about it too.

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Speaker 1: No. No, I never had step siblings. But if I

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Speaker 5: Look out. Okay, we need to get back to the

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Speaker 5: Vanessa is because Joey feels terrible about what he said.

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Speaker 5: He does not believe that, right, joe Yes.

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Speaker 6: I believed it once, but not anymore.

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Speaker 5: Okay, he's not interested in you romantically in any way

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Speaker 4: When he said that, I was kind of impressed a

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Speaker 3: But now he said, it's a very.

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Speaker 5: Low bar that we're trying to clear. Joey, talk to her, please, And.

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Speaker 6: This is a huge thing to leave out. I just

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Speaker 6: I will never say it again. Can you forgive me?

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Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, Joey, like I, I forgive you, but

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Speaker 6: you know, I'm not going to completely cut you out

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Speaker 2: Brother is a different level of it. Yeah, So I

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Speaker 1: I mean, if it was in my family, people would

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Speaker 3: Of your life, maybe your whole life for those that

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Speaker 6: For sure, that's true, you know, maybe something we'll laugh

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Speaker 7: And well me, yes, find me that I said once,

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Speaker 6: Oh it's funny, how you think it's kind of like

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Speaker 6: all right, yes, all right, well at least see you Christmas.

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Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, I'm not going to miss Christmas. You

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Speaker 5: It sounds like you're gonna need to give her some space, Joey,

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Speaker 1: And I'd recommend no alcoholic beverages for you at any

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Speaker 6: Christmas. Yeah, that's probably a good idea.

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Speaker 5: Great, okay, all right. I feel like this is a

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh my god, my sister's calling me right now.

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Speaker 5: Should I answer? What do you think she wants to

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Speaker 6: Why don't you fantasize about it?

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Speaker 1: Reok and Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 3: I think we did. Oh my god, they need they

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Speaker 5: I know Enjoey was just going to keep digging himself

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Speaker 5: Yes. That and also Brooke normalizing fantasies about family members.

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Speaker 5: I mean, come on, I have a few websites that

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Speaker 3: That's a perfect point.

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Speaker 5: Weird at all?

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Speaker 5: That's wrong with me. I'm just glad that we're all

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Speaker 5: the time. Sometimes you need us to jump in and intervene.

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Speaker 5: And if that's where your life's at, email the show.

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Speaker 5: We can help you with whatever awkward situation you're dealing with.

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Speaker 5: something about your step sibling.

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Speaker 3: Weird ass.

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Speaker 5: Yeah,