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Speaker 1: I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: you know, the Conservative Party. I feel like that's that's missing.

428
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Speaker 1: So I hope with the Black Effect, we can continue

429
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Speaker 1: to grow that and grow those kind of voices and eventually, man,

430
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Speaker 1: I want to get my heart to do that. You

431
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 1: got all these conservative talk radio stations, Now let's go

432
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,360
Speaker 1: build the black talk radio stations. Yeah, that's what's up. Man.

433
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 1: I gotta just thank you because I think in one

434
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: of your interviews, I saw you do with somebody you

435
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: had said that a lot of people it was somebody

436
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: that was really impactful to you. Was it was a sister.

437
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Speaker 1: I don't know her name, but she was the one

438
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 1: that gave you a shot. And you said a lot

439
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 1: of people told you know, but this was like one

440
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 1: person that actually did what they said they were gonna do.

441
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Speaker 1: Was whoever discovered you or had something to do with

442
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Speaker 1: discovering Yeah, And I just remember you saying she was

443
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 1: like she saw this for you, She saw the reckfast

444
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 1: club for you, she saw that opportunity for you. And

445
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: I've always had people say, oh, you know, I see

446
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 1: you be good because what people don't know is I've

447
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: been doing this for like twenty years, you know, with

448
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 1: no check, just grinding talk radio at a talk radio

449
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 1: show in Orlando, at the talk radio show in Oklahoma City,

450
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 1: I did blog talk radio like everybody else, you know,

451
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 1: pulling up my laptop and just putting that content television show.

452
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 1: Doing that, plus working, plus raising my baby and going

453
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Speaker 1: through divorce and starting a business. This has always been

454
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Speaker 1: a part of my life. And this is really now

455
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 1: this season that I'm in with all of the things

456
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: that I'm doing as a collective, the first opportunity that

457
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 1: I've really been able to do what I want to

458
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Speaker 1: do in the space um that I feel is is

459
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Speaker 1: my audience and do it my way. And so I

460
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Speaker 1: want to thank you for the opportunity and just kind

461
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: of thinking back to how we met, because you would

462
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: talk about Fox News like all the time. You still do.

463
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: You still talk about Fox News all the time. But

464
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 1: I was like, let me come on and explain my

465
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Speaker 1: strategy behind Fox News because I felt really alone in

466
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Speaker 1: that space. I felt that no one knew why I

467
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: was doing Fox News. And I know Ebony had been

468
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: on Foxing before. I know you're really close to her,

469
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: but I felt nobody knew like my method to my madness.

470
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Speaker 1: I thought it was important that somebody was on Fox

471
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Speaker 1: News holding it down for the hood, whether it's two minutes,

472
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Speaker 1: three minutes, because I don't get a lot of time.

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Speaker 1: Notice the difference between if somebody goes on CNN, they

474
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Speaker 1: get five minutes, ten minutes, you know, but Cari gets

475
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Speaker 1: a lot of time. I'm to be able to talk

476
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Speaker 1: to because that's the audience that they have. They want

477
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,959
Speaker 1: to hear what he has to say. My space when

478
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: I'm on Fox News is very different. I only have

479
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 1: two to three minute. That's about probably as much as

480
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Speaker 1: I assume that they can tolerate. I may get seven

481
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 1: to eight. And it was so important to me that

482
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 1: my people knew I was riding for them, and you

483
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 1: gave me an opportunity by going on the Breakfast Club.

484
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Speaker 1: I remember when I went on the first time and

485
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,479
Speaker 1: I went to the comments, which normally I don't give

486
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: damn back comments, but I went to the comments and

487
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: when I saw everybody said Okay, I'm feeling this system.

488
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: That meant so much to me, Charlet Mayne, because I truly,

489
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Speaker 1: you know, I went through a lot that year. I

490
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: felt so isolated by myself, but I felt being on

491
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 1: Fox News was so important and I just wanted people

492
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 1: to know why. You know, now you got Trump talking

493
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Speaker 1: about Fox News saying that there's too many people on

494
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Speaker 1: the left saying that now you know, they've totally switched

495
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: up their commentary. I believe that those voices like myself,

496
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,719
Speaker 1: Donna Brazil, and Beny when she was on Fox, Wine Williams,

497
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Speaker 1: even though you know Wine and Donna they pushed hard

498
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Speaker 1: lines for Democrats. I don't, but I feel those little

499
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: voices over time has made a difference. It's not that

500
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: we're trying to change every single person to watch Fox News.

501
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: But anybody can bang on somebody in your hood. When

502
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: are you going over to the other hood to bang

503
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: on the set? You know, bang on your enemy. So

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00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: I appreciate you giving me that opportunity. Why did you

505
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: give it an opportunity? Just straight up, I don't I

506
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: don't think we've ever talked about that. I'm gonna use

507
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: this opportunity to ask because I don't think i've ever

508
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: asked you. I just think you dope, and I think

509
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 1: that you know our problem. Sometimes as people, as we

510
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 1: look at you know, the package, something comes in instead

511
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 1: of looking at the gift in side of the mother

512
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Speaker 1: bucking package. So as soon as they see a black

513
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Speaker 1: person on Fox News, they automatically say sell out, you

514
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean. They automatically say, oh, they are Coon,

515
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: they are Uncle Tim. They do you better listen to

516
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: what the hell is coming out of her mouth? The

517
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,479
Speaker 1: same thing whatevery like you know, when everything was over there,

518
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: you can listen to what's coming out of her mouth like,

519
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: and it's the same thing with you better listen to

520
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: with coming out of Test's mouth. And that's why it's

521
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: so interesting. Even when I post clips to you now

522
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 1: on Fox, you don't see nobody talking to Fox News ship.

523
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: They just be like yo, maybe like she yo. They're

524
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: like your tests talking that real ship. I ain't that crazy,

525
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: don't remember. Don't how it changed? Like it it literally

526
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 1: changed because they're actually paying attention, you know what I mean.

527
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 1: It's not that they're just turning on Fox and automatically

528
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: shutting it down, like they're actually listening to what's coming

529
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: out of your mouth. So I mean, for me, man,

530
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, like the name of the podcast, Great Shot,

531
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: No Chases. I like people that speak truth to power,

532
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: and I like people who love black people. And you

533
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: can have one five minute conversation with test and you

534
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: already know you're gonna get it straight and you're gonna

535
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,239
Speaker 1: know exactly what she's standing on. You know what I mean?

536
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean, not any phone calls I didn't got. They're

537
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: like Teds just snapped on the producer. Ted The producer

538
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: Teds just told the producers they ain't doing right. And

539
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: I said, y'all dealing with outpha women. What do y'all

540
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: think this is? You ain't never got to worry about

541
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: none of none of these people not telling you how

542
00:25:52,119 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: they feel. And that's how it should be. When you

543
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: say people are paying attention? Can we credit Trump for that?

544
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: Is that when when I say that Trump has allowed

545
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 1: he's the best and worst thing that ever happened to

546
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: black people, the worst in a lot of people's mind.

547
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: But when I say the best and people, I hope

548
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: people don't try to quote this and run with it.

549
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: I mean that nobody. I don't think we've ever paid attention,

550
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: at least in our lifetime, to politics how we have

551
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: with Donald Trump. He's made it entertaining. He's made it

552
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: where he's petty as hell with some of that ship

553
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: is funny. Let's just keep it real. I laughed at

554
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of the ship that he's done. Um,

555
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: but he's made it where now people pay attention like

556
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: never before, and so they've gotten engaged. Would you agree

557
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: to that? Absolutely, I don't think that, and I mean, listen,

558
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm only speaking from my perspective. Black people aren't monolithic.

559
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: But I haven't seen black black political culture spread out

560
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: across as many different demographics of black people as I

561
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: have over the past. You know, eight years, really well

562
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,239
Speaker 1: four years because really twelve because I gotta go back

563
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: to Barack, like Barack got the spark going right, Because

564
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: that was the first time I ever voted in my life.

565
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: I ain't know what the hell I was voting for

566
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: I just because he was black. To be honest with you,

567
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't because he was black and that Jess song

568
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: was harder ship, you know what I mean. So I

569
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: voted for Barack, and I voted for him twice. But

570
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: then after that, I was like, wait a minute, now,

571
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: I should be voting for a reason, not just because

572
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Speaker 1: a person is black. So that's when I started paying

573
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Speaker 1: attention to policies and I started paying attention to, you know, what,

574
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: what what people are actually talking about. And I remember

575
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: saying in ten, I'm gona vote my interests, you know

576
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I was just following the different candidates,

577
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: listening to what they were saying, to see who was

578
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: saying things that were most aligned with my interest and

579
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: I was looking at both sides. I was looking at

580
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: conservatives and Democrats, and so, you know, I ultimately ended

581
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: up voting for for for um, Hillary Clinton. But it's

582
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: like after that everything changed. Once I've got an office,

583
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: I started paying attention to it all local level, you know,

584
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: national level, you know, listening to different political pundits and

585
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: their views, um, really starting to see what legislation has

586
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: been implemented from certain people, what has helped the black community,

587
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: what has hurt the black community. And I don't think

588
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: there's no turning back now for a lot of us,

589
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: Like I think it's so it's so much information out there.

590
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: It's a lot of misinformation out there too, but it's

591
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: just a lot of information that has woken us up

592
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: to the political process. That's why even when people get

593
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: mad at certain people for supporting certain individual supporting Trump,

594
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm like, I'm all for black people

595
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: thinking freely about their politics, even if I don't agree

596
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: with their politics. I don't gotta agree with Angela standing.

597
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: I don't gotta agree with Candice owns ship. If we

598
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: don't want to take a picture of Trump, hey, that's

599
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: on them. But I'm just I'm happy that black people

600
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: are thinking freely about their politics because we all, we

601
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: all should be allowed to be wrong, right, That's right.

602
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, it's been a trip because

603
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: I don't A lot of people are. I think we're

604
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: similar in that way. Like I'm I'm honestly not triggered

605
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: by what Canada says or what Angela says. We had

606
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: a current, I had a conversation with Angela may have

607
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: on the show next month. But what I mean, how

608
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: she feels. It's how she feels, you know what I'm saying.

609
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't feel personally violated by that, personally

610
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: affected by I do know that the influence can change

611
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: a lot of minds. I get that, but to me,

612
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: I guess, at least with this show, I just want

613
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: to give you the information and make you do the

614
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: work and make you decide what you wanna do. And

615
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 1: not necessarily tell people what you should do and how

616
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: you should do and who is bad and who was evil.

617
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: I give you my opinion, and that's it. That's it,

618
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: that's all. I mean. I'm just not emotionally triggered by

619
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: what people say and how they move and oh my god,

620
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: he said this and following out. And that's the reason

621
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: why I thought Trump should not be reelected for that alone.

622
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: I mean, the anxiety that he put on people like

623
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: I recognized that. I recognized that people really had anxiety.

624
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: I canna talk to my grandmother to three minutes. What

625
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: else and what? Trump did this? So Trump did that?

626
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: On my Trump did this and Trump did that. I

627
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: mean it literally consumed like the minds of people every

628
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: single day, which was Trump's whole plan. I mean, he's

629
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: a media master. We talked more about Trump than we

630
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: ever talked about what Biden was going to do. We

631
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: talked more about Trump than we ever talked about what

632
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: we wanted. We talked more about Trump than we ever

633
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: talked about what we demand and what we earned and

634
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: what we should get. I mean, he just consumed our

635
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: hearts and minds every day. What about Trump? What about Trump?

636
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: Where do we go from here. Now that Trump's have

637
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: the equation, I know it's still gonna be some people saying,

638
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: what Trump did that, such and such did that. How

639
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: do we push the line on getting the things that

640
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Speaker 1: we demand from the Biden Harris administration without saying, well,

641
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Speaker 1: Trump didn't do it, or he doesn't he's not in

642
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Speaker 1: control of the Senate. Hopefully we'll have control of the Senate.

643
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Speaker 1: But how do we continue to push this line or

644
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: or do we just kind of do you see people

645
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: getting stagnant just because they're and putting their heads back

646
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: in the ground because they're glad that the trump eras

647
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: over per se. Well, I feel very optimistic. The reason

648
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: I feel very optimistic is because of people on the

649
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: ground pushing the line. You know, the Black Lives Matter movement,

650
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: people like you know, Tamika Mallory and my son and

651
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: Linda Saucehold and Tell Freedom. You know, people like yourself

652
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: and and and attorney been Crump. Like the fact that

653
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: there's so much activity going down on the ground, I

654
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: think that makes it easier for us to keep pressure

655
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: on the folks you know in in the White House.

656
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: And you know, I've never had unless these nickels changey

657
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: thing numb. But I've never had this many lines into

658
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: the White House, and I've never I've never had a

659
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: line into the White House period. But you got, you know,

660
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 1: people like Cedric Richmond Biden seeing your DVisor, you got

661
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, people like sending the Kamala Harris is the VP.

662
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: Like these are people who you know, I've had quite

663
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: a few conversations with you know what I'm saying on

664
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Speaker 1: their and off air, you know, So hopefully that doesn't change.

665
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: And um, I just want us to continue to on

666
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: the ground and just continue to push the line and

667
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: make demands. Like it's a bunch of black agendas out there.

668
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: You gott at least se a gaza. I don't queue

669
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: with the contract of Black America. You've got so many

670
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: people that have plans on you know, how do you

671
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: want to take funds from you know, the police departments

672
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: and put them into the communities. Like it's a lot

673
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: of different things going on that can be done and

674
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: that can be implemented asap, especially if you know, they

675
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: flipped the Senate in Georgia. But I just think we

676
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: got to just keep pushing the line, you know what

677
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Like now is not the time to get disengaged,

678
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: like I'm not comfortable because Biden and Harris one, that

679
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: don't mean ship. The hood still the hood, you know

680
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: what I mean? The black community is still dealing with

681
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: the same things that it has been dealing with for

682
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of years in this in this country.

683
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: So it don't nothing has changed but the administration. So

684
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: now we have to make the administration uh systemically implement

685
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: pieces of legislation to help our condition, the way this

686
00:32:54,920 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: country systemically implemented pieces of legislation to destroy me. So

687
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: and they and they know, they expect you to know

688
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: that you're gonna continue to push the line. Would you say,

689
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: would you say that they know ain't no friendships, you

690
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean? This is all transactional, you know.

691
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: And and and and I love Senda to Harris, but

692
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: you know, she she has to understand her political aspirations

693
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: determine what happens over the next four years, because if

694
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: she played her cars right, she could be in the

695
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: White House for the next twelve years. If Democrats play

696
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: their cars right, they can be in the White House

697
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: for the next twelve years. They can have the House

698
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: in the Senate because that's that's my next goal. My

699
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: next goal is to like really energize people for the

700
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: mid terms the way we energize people around presidential elections.

701
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, we don't. We don't. We

702
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: don't do that enough, Like even with even with the

703
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: Georgia Senate run off, and almost feel like we're trying

704
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: to get people to come to the club two nights

705
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: in a row. You know, you went on that Friday

706
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: night and turned up, but now your girls like, yeah,

707
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: let's go out Saturday. To you like, man, I'm tired,

708
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm sleeping. I gave my all Friday. It's like, no,

709
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: we gotta turn up for another night. It's a weekend.

710
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: You gotta act like you had freak Nick or something more.

711
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: Miami Black Bike a weekend we out every night that

712
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: we bought all these outfits. So it's the same thing

713
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: in Georgia, like we gotta make sure we we show

714
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: up there just to get those two cynencies. But that's

715
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: my next thing is really just focusing on, like how

716
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: do we get people in the jobs for the midterms

717
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: like we do presidential election. And see a lot of

718
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: that was in the message and telling people this is

719
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: the most conciquent election. You gotta do it for this election.

720
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: You gotta do not talking about Georgia, not talking about,

721
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: not talking about because they put so much energy in

722
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: just this one thing. Now, I think that's what Rock

723
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: is gonna have to come into play too, right. I

724
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: think it's gonna come a point with Barack gonna just

725
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: have to say straight up, like y'all always saying I

726
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: didn't do nothing for black people. You know why I

727
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: couldn't get ship done, It's because I didn't have to

728
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 1: sen it. I didn't have the house. You think he'll

729
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: say that, He's not gonna he should, he should, He

730
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Speaker 1: probably won't. I'm reading this book now, so I don't know.

731
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: Hopefully he'll get to that at some point in the book,

732
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: but that should be his messaging because that's the only

733
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: only where people are gonna realize, like, oh, so presidents

734
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: just can't make decisions, you know what I mean, Like

735
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: you got to have those other pieces in place in

736
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: order to really, you know, get things done. So I

737
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: think he should be the person to come out and

738
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: say that, because he's the one that gets accused the

739
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 1: most of not doing anything for black people. I don't

740
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: think he will, though, I mean, that's that's good to

741
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: have hope that he will. I think he would say

742
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: he's he has said that he couldn't get anything done

743
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: because he needed the Senate in the house. But I

744
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: don't think he'll ever direct and specifically of black people.

745
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: I just don't see him doing that. I just think

746
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: he when when you're like that, you truly just want

747
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: to be all things to everybody, And unfortunately we think

748
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: it's okay when I say, well, I'm talking about black people.

749
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: In leadership think it's okay to just assume that you're

750
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: talking about black people. They have a real hard time

751
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: of just saying what you've learned, what you saw, I

752
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: remember you see and taket me like why they just

753
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: can't say black, like it's so simple to you, And

754
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: I'll be like that, that's that's just not how they bove.

755
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: They just they will not do what. They are so

756
00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: afraid of losing white favor, losing hispanic favor, using that

757
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: to them, pro black means anti everything else. They just

758
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: have not grasps that. Unfortunately, ask you that the last week,

759
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, so, who is the people of code? My

760
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: answer was everybody, not white, Everybody not white. I'm like,

761
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm because I always wonder they are they

762
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: when they say people of color they mean like Latinos

763
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: and everybody else too. Are they just saying that's just

764
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: their way of saying black, because maybe black might come

765
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: off too harsh for them. I don't know. I'm just like,

766
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: why you always seeing people the color people? Is? Everybody

767
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: not not white, Hispanic, Asian, black, It's whatever it makes

768
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: people feel good. Charlemagne, I think we're all over here together,

769
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: all fighting the big dragon. It is very hard for

770
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: people to identify now. They do what everybody else grew,

771
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 1: but when it comes to us, it is very hard

772
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: to just stand on that ship. They just cannot stand

773
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: on black and let Black be enough, solid enough on

774
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: its own. Every other culture can take from ours. Everybody

775
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: else sees the value in us, but when it comes

776
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: to a lot of our leaders, they just they just

777
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: don't have the comfort level to do it. They're afraid

778
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: to piss off even people that were on in solid

779
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: Democrat districts, solid districts with how population of black folks,

780
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: they just won't do it. Yeah, we don't, we don't.

781
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: We're the only group of people that get disrespected and

782
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: where the base of a party, you know what I mean,

783
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: Like they catered at everybody else except for black people,

784
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: and they cared with everybody else. Thinks it seemed like

785
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 1: except for black people. But eventually that's got to change,

786
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: you know, because I don't think this this this is

787
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: the last time. I think you're gonna get black people

788
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: to vote out of fear. Now, what's so interested that

789
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: they try to get us to vote out of fear

790
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: for every presidential election? This really was the election we

791
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: should have been scared, you know, I mean, because we

792
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: had a real fascist in the White House. But the

793
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: way Democrats have resorted back to the same old messaging

794
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 1: and still normalizing Trump in a lot of ways because

795
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: you got Joe Biden saying things like those people on

796
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: on the other side of not our enemies. I can't

797
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: tell the last four years theyn't able you know, fascism

798
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: in the White House. They were, they were, they were

799
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: going along with everything that Trump was doing. So how

800
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: can you say they're not our enemies? Like but and

801
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: you're so willing to extend on olive branch to them.

802
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: It's that olive branch over here. The black people, you know,

803
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: Democrats will ride just as hard. We just never been

804
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: exposed that way, like the way public Republicans ain't saying

805
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: nothing against Trump and the line real hard. You know,

806
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: Democrats to the same ship. I tell people that all

807
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: the time that they the same, they just have never

808
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: exposed themselves to a way you've never had against as

809
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: politician like Trump. And for those listening, when I say gangster,

810
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you know now they think gangster means good.

811
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: When I say gangster, I mean literally like a blood

812
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: like literally gangster. You know you've never had that, You've

813
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: never had that. Democrats exposed it that way to show

814
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: how hard people will push the line no matter what

815
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: for their team. But do you think Democrats would go

816
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: just as hard and not speak up and not stand up?

817
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: I mean I think Democrats I think they too saw

818
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: I think that you have. Honestly, the Progressives are more

819
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: gangster that I see more gangster coming from the aocs

820
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: and the representative on mall, the Niana Presidy's. I like

821
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: you need to turners like that's the game that they

822
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: they not afraid to speak truth to power. But then

823
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: you got them centrist Democrats. They just want to tow

824
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 1: that line. They're so worried about that damn electoral college

825
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: that they'll throw a middle finger to that base to

826
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: try to go run after those you know, fifty of

827
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: white women who voted in sixteen and fifty five percent

828
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: who voted in Please don't leave us. They're gone. They

829
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: told they drew a line in the sand. And they

830
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: like racism, they like bigotry. They don't care about what

831
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: you're talking about overhead. So it's like, stop catering into them,

832
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: and cater to your base. Show your base in love you.

833
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: I don't think you'll ever lose as long as you

834
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 1: continue to the water your own grass. Well, we shall see.

835
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm glad to be on this journey. What you can.

836
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: I can talk to you all day. We got a

837
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: bunch of subjects I could cover. But I know, do

838
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: you get tie the interviewing before we get at it? Like,

839
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: do you get tired of talking? Like all day you

840
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: interview all day, you go interview people all day, just

841
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: all a personal know, do you get tired? Yeah? I do,

842
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: only because um on, only because I just feel like

843
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: there's certain things that that that people will call me

844
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: for that I just don't know if I'm qualified to

845
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: speak on like I would rather. You know, it's the

846
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: same thing we always talk about when it comes to UM.

847
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: You know, these influences are our celebrity so to speak,

848
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: who who get on these platforms And it's like, Yo

849
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: Ice Cube, bring Alicia God with You'll bring Dr Claude

850
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: with you, bring you know, Derek Hamilton's what you bring

851
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: somebody who actually can speak to what you're speaking to

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Speaker 1: in a real way, Like I like what did he

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Speaker 1: did with All Black Party when he's standing with Dr West,

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Speaker 1: Bella me and and um mad Candae Holland's worth. But

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Speaker 1: it's like have them with you on the platform you

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Speaker 1: understaying like That's that's what I think should happen, you know,

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Speaker 1: more often, because I want that I can speak to

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Speaker 1: is my experiences. You know, if you want me to

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Speaker 1: come talk about mental health and what I've been through, absolutely,

860
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: you know talk to me. I can talk to you

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00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,479
Speaker 1: about going to therapy. I can talk to you about

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00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: the wellness that I practice all of that. But it's

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Speaker 1: just certain things. Um. I think when they when they

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Speaker 1: called me to speak about I wish I wish they

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Speaker 1: would bring bring other voices on is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: That's why when I get on these platforms, I I

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Speaker 1: let them know, like, yo, you should be talking to

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Speaker 1: such and such, you know, even before they before I

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Speaker 1: go in, I'm like, yo, you should reach out to

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Speaker 1: this person to have this conversation. To reach out to

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00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: that person to have that conversation. Because but I do

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Speaker 1: turn down more things than I that I actually do,

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Speaker 1: especially you wanted a few who do. With a lot

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00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: of people, they just don't want to show that shine.

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00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: I mean, let's just keep it real and egos involved,

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00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: prize involved. They want to be the only one on top.

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Speaker 1: They don't. I mean, they see it as a competition

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Speaker 1: instead of you know, a little, a little, it's a

879
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: lot of it's enough out here for everybody. You know. Well,

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00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: I would say that those people don't care about black

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00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: people as a hole. That's what I mean, because I

882
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: don't I care about black people as a whole. I

883
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: care about us winning as a community. And you know,

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00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: jay Z had this line back in the day. He said,

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00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: if everybody and your click is reach your clicking, rugged

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00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 1: nobody will fall because everybody will be each other's crunch.

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00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: And I look at that past finances, you know, what

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00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying. If everybody in your your your your your

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00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: circle has a voice, if everybody in your circle has

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00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: a platform, you know, how can the black community be

891
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: stopped If everybody's strong, if everybody got foundations, strong foundations

892
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: to stand on. And I think we got the point too,

893
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: man like, not just for black men, but just men period. Man,

894
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta shut the funk up and let

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00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: women lead. You know what I mean by the way

896
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: black women lead, with black women leading us our whole life.

897
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Speaker 1: My mama, my grandma, my aunt, you know what I'm saying.

898
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: I even think about the people I used to like

899
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: to be around with I was a little I was

900
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: around my older sister and my girl cousin, so much

901
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: of my dad. Just like, get out here with all

902
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: these goddamn girls. Don't hang out with the boys. Ain't

903
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: talking about ship. You know, That's how I used to

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00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: always feel. So it's just like now I love seeing

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Speaker 1: women in the forefront, and that's how it should be.

906
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: All the brothers should do and we should just sit

907
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: back and have y'all back. So y'all stand back and

908
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: stand by, so y'all not we're the black and proud boys. Okay,

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00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: So y'all not a paid to show up at your

910
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: full selves. When when we empower black women to show

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00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: up as their full selve just by having their back,

912
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: our community is unstoppable. I truly believe that that's so real. Man.

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Speaker 1: I just appreciate it. I you know, people think you're

914
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Speaker 1: soul are probably with your career prints of pissing people off,

915
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: but you have been a power maker. I mean it

916
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Speaker 1: takes a lot. It takes a lot to set your

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Speaker 1: pride to the side and eagle to the side to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: shout out to my girl, testlent to me, because in

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Speaker 1: the time people just don't do that. I mean, I've

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00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: had clients that I worked for that have never gave

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Speaker 1: me a shout at, which is cool. I'm behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes on a lot of ship You have been very

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Speaker 1: one of the few I would probably say, out of

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Speaker 1: a total of two or three people that have ever

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Speaker 1: just said no, give her an opportunity to speak, and

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Speaker 1: that that matters a lot to me. I never gave

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Speaker 1: a damn because it's a lot. Even if I'm helping

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Speaker 1: a client move their voice forward or helping them be

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Speaker 1: better at what they do. I love black people, so

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Speaker 1: it didn't matter to me. How would happened. We've had conversation.

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Speaker 1: I like, I don't need to be on that call

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Speaker 1: and that I just want to know that it's getting done.

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Speaker 1: You know that somebody is pushing this line. I don't

934
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Speaker 1: have to be in the room. But it still feels

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Speaker 1: nice when somebody says coming the room because you've earned

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to be in the room based upon your

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00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: work and not just talk. What that means a lot

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Speaker 1: to me. Absolutely well. I look forward to stay on.

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Speaker 1: And they asked with you for the next four years,

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Speaker 1: and with me and you and Tamka and we all.

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Speaker 1: They asked the day they won as soon as they

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Speaker 1: want you sex were talking about get ready. It's people

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00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: and they circle on their ass too. Because I put

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Speaker 1: up a post about Centric Grichman on Instagram, congratulating them

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Speaker 1: but also telling him don't change his number. And I'm

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00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: looking at my phone, I got text like, let me

947
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: tell you about that, nigga. So and that's people in

948
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Speaker 1: that circle already. So hey, everybody pushing the line, I'm

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Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, I'm with it too. Well, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for joining me. King Black Effect Podcast network

951
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Speaker 1: founder The one and only Charlettagne, the God and building

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Speaker 1: step in by the one who gave me the opportunity

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Speaker 1: for straight Shot and I'm Chaser. Thank you a much

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Speaker 1: Shadow Maple joining us and until we meet again. If

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Speaker 1: you like what you heard on straight Shot No Chaser,

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Speaker 1: a France. Straight Shot No Chaser is a production of

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Speaker 1: The Black Effect Podcast Network and I Heart Radio, a

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Speaker 1: Tesla figure and I'd like to thank our producer editor mixer,

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Speaker 1: the one and only Marcy Dupina, our mixed Master Dwayne Crawford,

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