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Speaker 1: up for Coast Insider. Now here's a highlight from Coast

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Speaker 1: to Coast AM on iHeart Radio. Are you similar with

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Speaker 1: the image of our lady Guadalupe? Yes? That that is

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Speaker 1: strange too. It is, it is, And the interesting thing

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Speaker 1: is that that there was like this little hidden message

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Speaker 1: in it that they couldn't know for four years. And

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Speaker 1: for those who don't know, in fifteen thirty one, around

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Speaker 1: Mexico City, there's this guy, Juan Diego. All of a

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Speaker 1: sudden he meets this eighteen year old beautiful girl and

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Speaker 1: she says, I want a chapel built up on this hill,

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Speaker 1: go tell the bishop kind of thing. But on their

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Speaker 1: fourth encounter with one another, she takes his cloak, which

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Speaker 1: is called a tilma. It was this is one, so

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Speaker 1: his cloak was exectually made out of cactus. These things

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Speaker 1: deteriorate after about twenty years. And she takes his cloak

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Speaker 1: and puts roses in it. That we're growing up on

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Speaker 1: this hill in December, which is kind of odd. And

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Speaker 1: he says, and she wraps him up, and she says, okay,

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Speaker 1: go show these roses to the bishop. Don't let anybody

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Speaker 1: else go see these things. So he goes to see

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Speaker 1: the bishop, unfurls the you know, the cloak, the roses

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Speaker 1: fall out, and left on the tilma is this image

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Speaker 1: of our lady, a Guadalupe, who looks a whole lot

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Speaker 1: like the woman who's in Revelation chapter twelve, and where

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Speaker 1: a woman is standing in front of the sun, on

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Speaker 1: top of the moon, and all this kind of stuff

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Speaker 1: in front of stars and all this. So all of

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Speaker 1: the symbolism in that cloak converted some eight nine million

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Speaker 1: Aztec pagans used to do wonderful things like sacrifice their

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Speaker 1: children to the gods. They flipped because the symbol them

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Speaker 1: said this woman was from heaven. She was a virgin,

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Speaker 1: but she was pregnant with God and had all these

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Speaker 1: kind of symbolisms in it, and it converted them. So okay,

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Speaker 1: that was That was like the first go around. Then

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Speaker 1: we go four hundred years later into the nineteen hundreds.

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Speaker 1: Now now scientists can look at that image. So first

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Speaker 1: the tilma is like it was four hundred almost five

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Speaker 1: dred years ago. It did not deteriorate. It's exactly as

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Speaker 1: it was the image. The substance that created the image,

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Speaker 1: they still don't know what it is. They can't tell

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Speaker 1: it's not from Earth. They can't tell what it's made of.

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Speaker 1: It feels like silk, and it's oh, I love this.

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Speaker 1: It's ninety eight point six degrees interesting. And then she's

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Speaker 1: standing in front of these stars. And then one science

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Speaker 1: kind of took over. They looked at it went wall,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's those stars are in the exact

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Speaker 1: position that the constellations were located on that day, December twelve,

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Speaker 1: fift thirty one. But not from Earth looking up. It's

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Speaker 1: like from heaven looking down. It's mirrored. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: because she's from heaven. But the killer is the are

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Speaker 1: her eyes. There have been books written about our Lady

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Speaker 1: of Guadalupe's eyes because they act like realize. They shined

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Speaker 1: light into the eyes and they kind of move a

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Speaker 1: little bit, the pupils constricted. And you know how in

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Speaker 1: a human eye, the image is right side up and

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Speaker 1: upside down on the retina because of the shape of

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Speaker 1: the eye and all that. In her eyes there's an

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Speaker 1: image and it's also upside down and right side up.

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Speaker 1: But the image in both eyes you can see microscopically.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't have seen this almost five years ago. Microscopically

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Speaker 1: you can see Wuan Diego, the bishop, the Tilma, the Roses,

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Speaker 1: and twelve other people in the room looking on. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's like, wow, it's just that's that's dazzling to me,

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Speaker 1: like a video recorder. Uh, it's like a video recorder. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's amazing. I just that's and sometimes when I

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Speaker 1: hear you know, you know, you hear about all the

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Speaker 1: people leaving the church and all this kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: And because young and millennials they need science, well, I

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Speaker 1: just don't think they're here that story just to give

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Speaker 1: them pause, you know, just give them pause, take a

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Speaker 1: look at our Lady of Guadalupe. There's a bazilion books

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Speaker 1: and and YouTube videos about it, and it's it's fascinating science.

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Speaker 1: I love the science. And this this goes back to

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Speaker 1: what I said at the beginning. Prove it to me,

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Speaker 1: you know, prove it to me, and I'm a prove

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Speaker 1: it to me guy. Would you say you're more spiritual

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Speaker 1: than religious? Our spiritually, I think it's tied together. I

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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't separate. I think some people when

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Speaker 1: they say they're spiritual, means I don't know what I am.

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Speaker 1: The trouble with spiritual is that you can be so

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Speaker 1: open minded everything falls in, you know. So I think

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Speaker 1: there has to be a root. You need to be

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Speaker 1: rooted in something. And so I would say I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: rooted in something. So I think when people hear the

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Speaker 1: word religious, they think of something organized well, and they

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Speaker 1: think of rules. Everything is a rule, and it's and

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Speaker 1: that's that's That's not the world I live in. It's

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Speaker 1: not the world I what I what I see is

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Speaker 1: I see love. It all boils down to love, and

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Speaker 1: uh and all of these experiences boiled down to love.

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Speaker 1: That there is a power and and love comes from

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Speaker 1: that power, and and and he wants a relationship. That's

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Speaker 1: every one of these things. If you look at it,

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Speaker 1: there's this encounter. And I talked to people about this

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Speaker 1: because I say, what changed in your life? What changed

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Speaker 1: um in this encounter? Because the encounter wakes you up,

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Speaker 1: and then it's like, what are you gonna do with it?

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna do with it? I had a

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Speaker 1: I had an experience where you know, I'm blind, but

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Speaker 1: a couple of times I got my vision back and

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Speaker 1: it was like I felt like it was a way

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Speaker 1: to say, what are you gonna do with this? You know,

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Speaker 1: it's like the awakening. And then it's kind of funny

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Speaker 1: because when you think about Jesus, Jesus healed all these people,

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Speaker 1: Well they're all dead, so what was the point. The

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Speaker 1: point was the awakening. It's not the miracle, it's the

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