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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. The Ravens are

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Speaker 1: coming off a twenty four to seventeen win over the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals in their second preseason game. The streak is

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Speaker 1: alive twenty two straight. Baby, how long can we get

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Speaker 1: in the thirties? I mean this, it's I will live.

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Speaker 1: We get down at the fourth corner. This starts getting tight.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, we gotta keep the street alive. Let's go,

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Speaker 1: so good game. I am joined today by Cole Jackson

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Speaker 1: of two Guys Watching Football podcast. Make sure you check

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Speaker 1: him out there and of course follow him on Twitter. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's got on YouTube. You can follow him at Cole

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Speaker 1: Jackson FB, on Twitter and on YouTube as well. He's

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Speaker 1: uh doing a ton of good stuff breaking down film. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Two Guys Watching Football, So make sure you check that out. Cole,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. You're stepping in cliffs on a

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Speaker 1: plane right now, and Garrett's on paternity leaves, so you

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Speaker 1: are the backup guy extraordinaire. Had to be here. UM.

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Speaker 1: Wishing the best to Garrett. I have a three month old,

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Speaker 1: so I've just recently gone through the pain that he

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Speaker 1: in the best and safe, safe travels the Cliff garretts

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Speaker 1: on the pain train. Yeah, and it's tough raid to start.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a rough one. But yeah, so really good

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Speaker 1: stuff from the Ravens in last night's when and really

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Speaker 1: the storyline of the night was the rookies. The Ravens

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Speaker 1: rookie class shined, led by a guy that we've spent

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Speaker 1: a lot of time talking about, and that is tight

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Speaker 1: end Isaiah likely eight catches for a hundred yards and

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Speaker 1: a touchdown in the first half, caught all eight of

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Speaker 1: his targets. I think you said it was what fifteen

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Speaker 1: snaps that he had fifteen snaps and he catches his

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Speaker 1: you know, more than like an absurd stat line, like

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Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it, um absolutely insane. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I guess you know, for me, what what stood

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Speaker 1: we've seen him catch balls all summer long, but in

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Speaker 1: to see what he can do after he makes the catch, right,

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Speaker 1: you don't see that run after catchability, shedding tackles and

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Speaker 1: You know, we saw the quadruple juke move in the

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Speaker 1: first preseason game to move the chains, but this time

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Speaker 1: it was kind of a little more physicality from him,

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Speaker 1: which was an interesting kind of new wrinkle to his game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think and what what The other piece that impresses

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Speaker 1: So you're seeing the yak, but you're also seeing him

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Speaker 1: be man coverage against both linebackers and dbs, and a

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Speaker 1: seeing him kind of read this soft pods of zones.

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Speaker 1: There was a play where he worked back to the

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Speaker 1: it's just he's doing things that I know what Ravens

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Speaker 1: So he's kind of showing that versatile skill set that

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Speaker 1: You know, Lamar's average depth of target through the first

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Speaker 1: not counting the fact that you'd have to specialists you

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Speaker 1: your kicker and your punter being the best in the league.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, like, if he was able to sustain

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Speaker 1: what he did last night, that's absurd production like that,

431
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Speaker 1: there's no way around it. That's just objectively top of

432
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Speaker 1: the league punting material um. And he did. He did

433
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 1: really well last week too. He had really his fourth

434
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Speaker 1: his fourth punt that counted because he had the first

435
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Speaker 1: punt didn't count because of the penalty. He it was

436
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Speaker 1: a coffin corner pump from their own fourty five, and

437
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 1: he miss kicked it and went out. So through seven

438
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Speaker 1: kicks that have registered this year, he's really only had

439
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Speaker 1: one that's been off, and we're talking he just didn't

440
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Speaker 1: get inside the twenty. So he's he's produced the whole time. Um,

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Speaker 1: And I don't think it's absurd to say that everything

442
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Speaker 1: he's doing is statistically top of the league last year.

443
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Speaker 1: It's all about sustaining it over a larger sample, of course,

444
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: but you know, the the ability is very clearly there

445
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: through two games. Absolutely. Another rookie that shined was Pepe Williams.

446
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 1: My guy, Pepe gets an interception. He had one glance

447
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: off his hands on his very first defensive snap. I

448
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: believe it was our second defensive snap. Hauls one in

449
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: yesterday and got to see from him. I mean, this

450
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: is the dude that I think Ravens fans are quickly uh,

451
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Speaker 1: you know, because he's becoming kind of a fan favorite

452
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Speaker 1: and to see him come down that and and it's

453
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Speaker 1: also cool to see the teammate reaction. I mean, anytime

454
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Speaker 1: anybody gets a pick, their pump. But like for Pepe,

455
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 1: you know who on the on our podcast said the

456
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Speaker 1: preseason is going to be like the super Bowl for him,

457
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Speaker 1: Like like it's like the regular season for him because

458
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Speaker 1: he you know, he's the fourth round corner. They have

459
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Speaker 1: a lot of death. He doesn't know how much regular

460
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Speaker 1: season actually he's gonna see. The preseason is huge for him.

461
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: And what we're seeing is just the same scrappy dude

462
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Speaker 1: that we see in practice and training camp. I mean,

463
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: just great mobility, good instincts, not afraid to hit anybody.

464
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Speaker 1: And and now coming up with the pick, just a

465
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Speaker 1: good night for Pepe. And he had that. I tweeted

466
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Speaker 1: about it Ray when it happened. He had that one

467
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Speaker 1: wrap up tackle where he was he was running right

468
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Speaker 1: through the man, and I mean, I know it's just

469
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Speaker 1: one tackle, but it's on third down. It's a consistent

470
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Speaker 1: attitude he brings towards the I mean, it's it's not

471
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Speaker 1: just on the field, it's in practice. It's the video,

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Speaker 1: the hype videos that you see of him, Like he's

473
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Speaker 1: just that kind of guy that you want your locker room,

474
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: that kind of gets everyone around him going um. But

475
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Speaker 1: then he also leads by example by playing solid football,

476
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Speaker 1: you know, aggressive football. It just when we talk about

477
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Speaker 1: what it means to play like a raven, Pepe seems

478
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Speaker 1: to embody that. And that's what I think is really exciting.

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Speaker 1: And you see a little bit of that. Tavon Young

480
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Speaker 1: in terms of Tavan just had kind of a note

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Speaker 1: from the football, you know, and I see that out

482
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Speaker 1: of Pepe, uh in a different personality. He just he

483
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Speaker 1: plays like Tavan, but much different personality than Tavan. So

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Speaker 1: uh fun to see, all right, going down and continuing

485
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Speaker 1: on the rookie train, here, Tie the Baby, the sixth

486
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Speaker 1: round running back, gets in the end zone and not

487
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: just that, I mean that was kind of a walk

488
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: in touchdown for him. Still good play. But the one

489
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Speaker 1: that stood out to me was his blitz pick up

490
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Speaker 1: on the Raleigh Webb touchdown. I thought was that was

491
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: a nice pick up for a dude that's a smaller

492
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Speaker 1: statured running back like Tyler Baby to step up and

493
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Speaker 1: take on that block that really freed up that touchdown

494
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Speaker 1: throw to Raley Webb. That that showed me something about

495
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Speaker 1: the rookie and that's what we talked about after the

496
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Speaker 1: draft when we were talking about the film of Tyler Batty,

497
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: it's like, where does he what does he need to

498
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Speaker 1: do to get on the field, And with his skill set,

499
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Speaker 1: it was I wanted to see better contact balance out

500
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Speaker 1: of him when running between the tackles, and I think

501
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: he saw that last night because there wasn't a whole

502
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Speaker 1: lot of real estate for him, but he was making

503
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Speaker 1: guys miss. He was kind of getting past that first

504
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 1: tackler um on multiple occasions of his twelve carries, and

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Speaker 1: I needed to see the past protection because what I

506
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Speaker 1: saw in his film from college was absolutely no issues

507
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Speaker 1: with willingness, which is what you want to see out

508
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Speaker 1: of the running back. You want to see a little

509
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Speaker 1: bit of a better of the identification, and now you're

510
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Speaker 1: starting to see it in the preseason showing what I mean.

511
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Speaker 1: There's so many of these guys that have improved so

512
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Speaker 1: much from their college film and it's a real testament

513
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Speaker 1: to what that first training camp can do for these guys.

514
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Speaker 1: And I think he's just one of those guys where

515
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Speaker 1: he's gonna naturally find a role to play in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Um I know it's only one Blitz pick up you

517
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Speaker 1: actually had two last night that stood out to me.

518
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Speaker 1: But just seeing that consistently, that's how rookies get on

519
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: the field when you have featurebacks like Gus Edwards and

520
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: j K. Dobbins ahead of you. So how does Tyler

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00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 1: Batty get on the field this year? Good past protection,

522
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: good third down productivity, that sort of thing being a

523
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Speaker 1: change of pace guy, and that's what he showed. Yep.

524
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Speaker 1: Another rookie that we haven't talked, wide receiver Rolly Webb,

525
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Speaker 1: who I just talked about with the long touchdown catch,

526
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Speaker 1: the stiff arm gets in the end zone from thirty

527
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Speaker 1: eight yards out. Heck of a throw by Anthony Brown

528
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 1: by the way, he relieved snooping and had an excellent

529
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Speaker 1: night other than his interception that he threw directly to

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Speaker 1: the other team. But a good night from Anthony Brown,

531
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: like I was impressed. Um, But Raleigh Webb is a

532
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver that's kind of flown under the radar, undrafted guy.

533
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Speaker 1: You know, another guy with with good size. He's six one.

534
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: Let me pull it up here. What's how's big? You

535
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: got this memorize coal? What's Raley Webb at six to

536
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Speaker 1: the site, So you know that's post a little little

537
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: ten pounds of muscle for him. Um. But yeah, I

538
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: mean we've all talked about Shamara Bridges, We've talked about

539
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, McKay polk, who's kind of stood out. Also,

540
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Speaker 1: I could have had a touchdown last night had he

541
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Speaker 1: not tripped turf months or seem to get McKay polk

542
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Speaker 1: early in the game. But is Raleigh Webb a dude

543
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: that is fighting to make this roster? Is the fourth fifth,

544
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Speaker 1: you know whatever, wide receiver. I think he's the dark

545
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: horse because he led the offense offensive players last night

546
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Speaker 1: with ten special team snaps. And we've seen it time

547
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: and time again that that special team's role for the

548
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: last I want to say three roster spots like it

549
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: maybe you know a wide receiver, tight end of running back,

550
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: whatever it is. But those guys are inside linebacker dB

551
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: as well. Those guys are your core special teams guys.

552
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: So not only are they making the fifty three, they're

553
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: likely going to be active on game day. And we

554
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: saw that with some guys like James Prochet being and

555
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: active in the past for the special team contributor because

556
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: you've got to make your special teams units. Um, So

557
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: I think the fact that he's showing some wide receiver production,

558
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: but he's also playing as one of their primary gunners,

559
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: as is McKay polk. I think he's very much a

560
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: dark course to make this roster. Like you need those

561
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: special teams specialists, um, you need gunners that are able

562
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: to play. So I think you know when you factor

563
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Speaker 1: that in, I wouldn't say he's above Shamar Bridges in

564
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Speaker 1: my prediction right now, but I'd say he's competing for

565
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Speaker 1: this team to carry a wide receiver six like the

566
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Speaker 1: six wide receiver Well yeah, I mean now with the

567
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Speaker 1: reported addition of de Marcus Robinson, you know that makes

568
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Speaker 1: up a fourth spot, you would say if he makes

569
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Speaker 1: a team, I wouldn't say it's an absolute lock, but

570
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: you would probably say he would. Uh, just as I

571
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: think we've seen the Ravens needed and we've all talked

572
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: about they needed more experienced depth just in case of

573
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: injuries to Marcus Robinson is a talented guy that could

574
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Speaker 1: add a lot to this team. So if he's taken

575
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Speaker 1: us a wide receiver spot. Now you're looking at Tyland Wallace,

576
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: is he is he a lock? Is he definitely on

577
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: this team? He's had the injury last week early in

578
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: that game and unfortunately had to sit out the rest

579
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: of that one and still is out. Didn't play last night,

580
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: So you know, it's his position absolutely secure. Could one

581
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Speaker 1: of these undrafted rookies steal a spot kind of based

582
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: on special teams like you're talking about. I think it's

583
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: an interesting development to watch. Um Another another undrafted rookie

584
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 1: that stood out to me, Josh Ross. You know, we

585
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: all know the Ravens history of keeping undrafted inside linebackers,

586
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: long history there. Uh so is Josh Ross the next

587
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: guy in line? I think what he shall in pass

588
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: coverage is what's really kind of sticking out. I think

589
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: what what I remember the most about something they seem

590
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: to backfill roles and so you lost Chris Board, he

591
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: moved on and he was sort of that special team

592
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: a sky that they had, but would also contribute in

593
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: their dime package as sort of a coverage specialist. I

594
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Speaker 1: think he was a converted safety from from college and

595
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: so Josh Ross stepping in and showing that similar type

596
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: of skill set. He was also Mike McDonald's mic linebacker

597
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: at Michigan, so that familiarity is important, but showing that

598
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Speaker 1: you know, he's got a little bit of special teams ability,

599
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: has a skill set to develop a special team's ability,

600
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: but also pairing that with good pass coverage. He played eight,

601
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Speaker 1: uh eight special team snaps last night, so one of

602
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: the most on the defense. Uh So that could compete

603
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: with Christian Welch to really push him for that kind

604
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: of fourth inside linebacker that's kind of a special team's as.

605
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: But could also you know, play some snaps and they're

606
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: playing in a sub package and and really pushed her spots.

607
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, having that familiarity with the

608
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator is super important. He knows he can rely

609
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: on him. He wore the green dot for his defense.

610
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Speaker 1: Um that was a complicated defense with how much they

611
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: did with their safeties at Michigan. So stepping into that role,

612
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: showing what he's shown so far, he's worthy. I hope

613
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Speaker 1: he plays a ton in the third game. I really

614
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Speaker 1: want to see him kind of early rather than later

615
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: see him against the stiffer competition. But so far, he's

616
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Speaker 1: passing every test that's from his way. Yeah, I would

617
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Speaker 1: say it's it's gonna be tough to beat out Christian

618
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: Welch on special teams. You know, if that is that

619
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Speaker 1: if that fourth inside linebacker, which it often is, is

620
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: really a special team position. Welch has been one of

621
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Speaker 1: the captain's, one of the kind of anchors of that unit,

622
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: so it would be tough in that regard. And you know,

623
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Speaker 1: we've seen Millie Harrison makes him plays the preseason, had

624
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: a couple of nice goal line stuff. He puts the

625
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: shoulder in the Trace McSorley. I was like, dude, he's

626
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: a former Raven. Let's let's take it. It's just me.

627
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: Ma Leek is a big dude. I was like that

628
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: one hurt between him and Travis Jones, I mean rough

629
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: and up Trace, Come on, God, yeah yeah. Um. So

630
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: I think that fourth inside linebacker spot will be interesting.

631
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: And then just to um kind of wrap up the

632
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: rookie talk here, even Chuck Wiley, I mean outside undrafted

633
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 1: outside linebacker Ray Shot Nichols, the undrafted defensive linement. The

634
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: defensive line depth that the Ravens have is absurd. It

635
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: is absurd. This offseason talking about getting younger on the

636
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: defensive line, it was like snap a finger overnight, Like

637
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: now you have all these young studs that can step in,

638
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: and you're like, I don't want to lose any of

639
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: these guys. You know, Isaiah mac played well, Nichols even

640
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: I think he had a pressure in the Titans game

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Speaker 1: or did he even have a sack in the title three? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I mean back to back games for him making

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Speaker 1: a play, and especially in this game, like John Harball

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00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: talked about, is like, hey, you know, it's just the preseason,

645
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: but the game was on the line and for them

646
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Speaker 1: to come up with back to back sacks kind of

647
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: sealed this game. Uh So, just good stuff from them too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to get too off topic because

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00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: I know we're sticking with the un laws, but even

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00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: Brent Urban, who's factoring into this uh rotations, played well

651
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: and how to sack last night. So I mean we

652
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: were not even talking about Isaiah Mack and Aaron Crawford

653
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 1: because there's just not really a spot for them on

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00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: the fifty three, and they have both played extremely well

655
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: through two preseason games. So if anybody wants, you know,

656
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: what's kind of the the positive spin zone on Travis

657
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: Jones maybe missing a little bit of time is that

658
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: I think they have the necessary depth on the roster

659
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Speaker 1: to covering if he has to miss a couple of

660
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: games to start the season right, and sorry, I went

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Speaker 1: a round out the rookie talk with Kyle Hamilton's the

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Speaker 1: top rookie. We haven't talked about him yet, you know.

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Speaker 1: It's it's interesting all this talk about the Ravens and

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Speaker 1: and how amazing the rookie classes. Well, two of their

665
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Speaker 1: top three picks I haven't been on the field, Tyler

666
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: linder Bomb and David or Jabo. Kyle Hamilton as and

667
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: made a nice play on the around the goal line,

668
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: getting into the throwing lane and knocking down the pass

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00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: that probably saved the touchdown. Uh, you know, but it

670
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: was it was kind of again a strong, a good

671
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: game for him, but kind of a mixed bag. What

672
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: did you see from Kyle Hamilton's I think that's a

673
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: really good way of putting it. The only thing that

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Speaker 1: I put out there, and I had tweeted about it

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00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: last night because I was kind of seeing the coverage

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Speaker 1: of Kyle Hamilton's and it was a little confusing to me,

677
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: is I'm just not seeing these issues and coverage that

678
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: everyone's speaking about. What I'm seeing is tackling issues and

679
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 1: so I think he's up to around five missed tackles

680
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: through two games, and so I think what people need

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00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: to remember. And I know someone might look at this

682
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: and say it's an excuse, it's really just context. In

683
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: my opinion, these guys go through the training camp almost

684
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Speaker 1: all of August where they're not tackling, and then you

685
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Speaker 1: go right into live preseason games where it's full go,

686
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Speaker 1: and so there can be a bit of an adjustment

687
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: for some of these guys that haven't tackled a few months. So,

688
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll have to see how it how it

689
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: develops and gets better. But in terms of his range,

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Speaker 1: in terms of his coverage, I saw him blanketing tight ends.

691
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: I saw blanketing slot receiver last night. Um so I

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00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: mean the touchdowns sorty, the drop touchdown that the that

693
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: they had. That's a tough play. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: people really realize what Kyle Hamilton's doing in that scenario.

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Speaker 1: If you look at if he looks at his vantage

696
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Speaker 1: point and see's a running lane for Trace McSorley, his

697
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: first instinct is to fill the rushing lane because he

698
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: still has to throw the ball and there has to

699
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: be a completion. You can't just let a quarterback walk

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Speaker 1: into the end zone. But it's very much. How many

701
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: times have we seen Lamar Jackson do something like that?

702
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: You make the defense pick their poison, either they commit

703
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: to you and you step up. I remember when a

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00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: Nick Boyle's touchdowns against the Buffalo Bills in was this

705
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 1: exact same play. Lamar started to run towards the end zone,

706
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: the defense stepped up to stop him from scrambling in,

707
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: and he just lobs it over them to boil for

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00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: a touchdown. So what's what's Hamilton's supposed to do in

709
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: that scenario. He's got to pick his poison, and in

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00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: my opinion, the correct poison to pick is to step

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00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: up and make him throw that ball. Um. He's throwing

712
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: it on the run while scrambling. It's not the highest percentage.

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00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: So that's one of those examples of where he's getting

714
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: kind of roasted online, like when he loses a one

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00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: on one against a slot receiver with an open field

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00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: UM and he's but it's like, well, that's his job,

717
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: Like he's got to step up there, he's got to

718
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: stop the run. So it's one of those things where

719
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: you know, I think he's got a lot of He

720
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: was an alien prospect, long limbed, physical athletics safe daily

721
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: and Pross. You don't see guys that look like him

722
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: and see he looks like a linebacker. Um, and so

723
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: people are gonna be pretty harsh on him. We you

724
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: know you're gonna see the same thing with Jordan Davis

725
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: because he's literally in alim Um. So I think, uh,

726
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be interesting to see, you know,

727
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: how he develops. But I'm really looking forward to diving in.

728
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: All I'll say is I think the tackles need to

729
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: get better. But I thought his coverage was good right onto.

730
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 1: Just a couple of veterans saw interception from Kyle four

731
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: which was was really good to see from him. You know,

732
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: he's had his hands full with Rashad Bateman and training

733
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: camp and with Isaiah Likely and you know Mark Andrews.

734
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: I mean good to see that hit. The veteran kind

735
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: of get that one under his belt, I thought. And

736
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: then Brandon Stevens was with somebody that caught my eye.

737
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: Played a lot in this preseason game. You know, he's

738
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: dealt dealt with the injury earlier in training camp that

739
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: I think limited him. The Ravens wanted to give him

740
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: a lot of snaps out there and see if he's

741
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Speaker 1: ready to go and step into what could be the

742
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Speaker 1: third cornerback slot in this team. You know that that position, Um,

743
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: and you know gave up some some plays, but tight

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00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: coverage also stops some plays. Stopped a deep ball to

745
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: Andy Isabella. UM, and Isabella was their preseason stand out

746
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: the first week and a tough assignment. Former first round

747
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: pick who I think first round pick right, uh, second

748
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: round pick, um, who has some some big time speed.

749
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: So what did you see from Brandon Stevens. Yeah, like

750
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: the penalty where he's kind of running out of bounds

751
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: and he gives a little bit of the shove, like

752
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: pretty ticky tacky. Not a huge deal to me. But

753
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: what I thought was really chesting is the defensive pass interference.

754
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: He really didn't need to clamp down on Isabella's shoulder

755
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: pad and he got not only did he match Isabella's

756
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,479
Speaker 1: four three speed on a nine route, but he got

757
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: his head around to make a play on the ball.

758
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: Like that was a phenomenal defensive play. UM. So, I mean,

759
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: he just showed that ability to kind of play. We've

760
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: seen him play physical at the line of scrimmage and

761
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: show that. But he's able to match up with a speedier,

762
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: shiftier guy and uh and match up with him as well.

763
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: So I think that's what really stood out to me.

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00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: Isabella had five catches for fifty four yards, nothing really

765
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: significant when he was kind of a primary matchup. But

766
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: Brandon Stevens also had two pass breakups, so I think

767
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: that's what's really relevant. I think he's also coming back

768
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: from injuries, so just to see him play snaps. He

769
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: also played ten special team snaps, which is important, you know,

770
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: you put together a full game. Just really impressive. I

771
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: thought he looked really fluid out there, and I really

772
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: like his combination of athleticism with the physicality he can

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Speaker 1: show impress and I think that's what the raven is one.

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00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: If you see Marlon Humphrey sliding inside uh, you know,

775
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: when they're in the dime or the nickel, you might

776
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: see a healthy dose as Brandon Stevens at that outside

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Speaker 1: quarterback position. Yep, for sure. Well let's take a break here,

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Speaker 1: you fantasy football guys. I'm a huge fantasy football guy.

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Speaker 1: Oh all right, all right, I don't I feel like

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Speaker 1: football league so cool. I mean, honestly, you could have

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Speaker 1: been in it. I mean you're the Canadian guy. I

795
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: could wrap the roadway north and that for sure. We

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Speaker 1: have some other Canadians. We have some other Canadians in there.

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Speaker 1: So and I believe I believe Daniel Mills. Hey did

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Speaker 1: he win the first year. He's a Canadian. He won

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Speaker 1: the first year of second year, So you'd have some

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Speaker 1: stiff competition. They the Canadians usually just trounceman. Yeah, but alright,

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00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: so moving forward, just what are you looking for who

802
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: are you looking to see? You mentioned Josh Ross, you

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00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: want to see a lot of him in the third

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00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: preseason game. What kind of are you looking forward to

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00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: as we wrap up this preseason? I think what I'd

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00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: like to see is a healthy dose of early snaps

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00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: from Ben Cleveland. That left guard battle has been uh

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00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: and you know where my bread and butter um so,

809
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Speaker 1: and I mean, how fun has it seem Ben Cleveland

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00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: beside Daniel Filet like with a couple of mountains. But

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Speaker 1: I found the usage of Ben powers to be interesting.

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00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: You know, he played one series of right guard, then

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00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: he's playing center, and it's like, does he really have

814
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: the left guard spot? Like Greg Roman said, it's so

815
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: interesting to me. So I'd really like to know what's

816
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: going on there. And we saw Tyree Phillips kind of

817
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: start moved to left tackle, and then Ben Cleveland was

818
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: playing right guard and left guard snap. So I just

819
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: would like to see an early dose of Ben Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: I think he's had a really really solid two games.

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00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: The big difference in his game from last year is

822
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: he just looks way more aggressive, way more assertive as

823
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: a run blocker. I really had no issues with him

824
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: as a past protector last year. I thought he did well.

825
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to see him getting a little bit more guys, girls,

826
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: finishing blocks, all that good stuff, using that size to

827
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Speaker 1: his advantage, and I think he's show him that in

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Speaker 1: the preseason, so I just want to see it against

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00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: stiffer competition. And then I just wanted to keep seeing

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Speaker 1: Daniel Filele play football. His progress as a rookie, even

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00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: from what we saw at the stadium practice. I did

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00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: an in depth film him on his past sets last

833
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: week because it was just so noticeable, like his improvement

834
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: is there, Um, there's still some things he needs to

835
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: clean up, and I can tell he's working primarily on

836
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: his footwork and then I think they'll kind of transition into, uh,

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Speaker 1: some of his hand strikes and that sort of thing later,

838
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: but just the cleanup of his footwork, getting that vertical set,

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00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: all things that he needed to do, and we're seeing

840
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: those boxes get checked. So that's exciting, awesome. Well, thank

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00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: you so much, Cole. As a reminder fans, you can

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Speaker 1: find Cole on YouTube two Guys Watching Football does awesome

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Speaker 1: remind fans that. So next Saturday night for the preseason

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Speaker 1: I got the picture here. It's pretty sweet. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna lie. As I looked at this picture, I was like, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my kids go into this. Uh. We have a book

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Speaker 1: and school supply drive get ready for school. We have

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Speaker 1: Sophia Rocks, who's a fourteen year old DJ. She's gonna

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Speaker 1: perform with DJ Kopeck uh from the Perch Party. So

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Speaker 1: I mean a fourteen year old DJ. That's pretty sweet. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So all all kinds of cool stuff. Here's another interesting one.

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Speaker 1: At halftime. We're gonna have DJ Sophia Rocks. We're also

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Speaker 1: gonna have Randy Brown our special team's catch. His daughter

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Speaker 1: Ryan Brown is gonna sing the national anthem. Kind of cool, uh,

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Speaker 1: so a lot of good stuff going on uh for

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Speaker 1: Kids Night. Make sure you come out to Mt Bank

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Speaker 1: Stadium next Saturday and thank you for listening. As always

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Speaker 1: you could reach it. You can reach us at the

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Speaker 1: lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net and we'll be

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Speaker 1: back with you later this week