WEBVTT - Not So Fast Episode 17th

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst,

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<v Speaker 1>where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>sports stories of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst.

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<v Speaker 1>Not so fast, my friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He is

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<v Speaker 3>Paul Pabst. All right, Paul, what do we got on tap?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, we got warm takes on the Texas Longhorns, warm

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<v Speaker 4>takes on USC and Lincoln Riley versus Oregon, and What

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<v Speaker 4>are the New York Giants going to do now, now

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<v Speaker 4>that Jackson Dart is out for the season, maybe the

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<v Speaker 4>regular season, maybe the postseason?

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<v Speaker 5>Where do they pivot?

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see. I got lots of quarterback news. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>want good or bad to start?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yesterday on Not So Fast, we started and broke

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<v Speaker 4>some quarterback news about Jackson Dart, and that was a

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<v Speaker 4>negative day.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's go positive.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's go to Seattle then, where Sam Darnold is

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<v Speaker 3>on track to play this Sunday against the Commanders. So funny,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a defending champion, Super Bowl, and no one cares.

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<v Speaker 4>It's funny that no one is talking about Sam Darnold

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<v Speaker 4>probably going back, the defending Super Bowl champion quarterback. I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's double good news for Seattle because Darnold is healthy.

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<v Speaker 4>It looked like it could be a hip injury, which

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<v Speaker 4>could be ongoing.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a glute. That's called your butt. And it seems

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<v Speaker 5>to be fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's the bonus for the Seahawks. You found out that

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<v Speaker 4>Drew Locke is more than serviceable and maybe threatening. Usually

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<v Speaker 4>your quarterbacks are either serviceable or threatening. Sounds like a

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<v Speaker 4>band name. But he was pretty good. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>other teams now look at Drew Locke and say to themselves,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's not a second-string quarterback.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just the second-best quarterback on the roster. And this

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<v Speaker 5>guy could do some damage.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, he might not even be that far

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<v Speaker 3>behind Darnold. Darnold was basically Drew Locke a few years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and Darnold just came out of nowhere. I know why

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<v Speaker 3>he's coming back. Do you want to hear the reason?

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead. Because he's playing the Commanders. So I pulled

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<v Speaker 3>up his line last year when Seattle played Washington. Sam

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<v Speaker 3>Darnold was 21 for 24, 330 yards passing, and four TDs.

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<v Speaker 3>Sam's like, I'm not missing this game. I've got to

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<v Speaker 3>pad my stats.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember this game specifically, and he was licking his

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<v Speaker 4>chops the whole game. I think in the first half,

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<v Speaker 4>he had three touchdowns, and the commanders aren't any better.

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<v Speaker 4>They have Marcus Mariota. They have their own quarterback situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Who's a decent backup? But Sam, like you said, he

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't want to miss this one.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's why I was wondering. They could easily afford

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<v Speaker 3>to sit Sam in this game and win the game,

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<v Speaker 3>go with Drew Locke. But they don't seem to be

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<v Speaker 3>that concerned about Darnold's health.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say out in the NFC, you can't afford

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<v Speaker 4>to pass on a weekend. I think you're trying to

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<v Speaker 4>get home field advantage. And with the Rams and the 49ers,

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<v Speaker 4>that one loss or that one pass on a win

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<v Speaker 4>could be the difference between... being on the road in

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<v Speaker 4>the NFC title game, and home for the NFC title.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, it is East Coast 1 o'clock time, but I

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<v Speaker 3>looked at last year. Seattle traveled East seven or eight times,

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<v Speaker 3>dominated every game. They don't have a problem going East

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<v Speaker 3>because they're a physical defense team. They're not a West

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<v Speaker 3>Coast finesse team. So, like everybody, I'm not sure this

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<v Speaker 3>makes a huge impact. I was going to pick the

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<v Speaker 3>Seahawks against the Commanders with Drew Locke or Sam Darnold.

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<v Speaker 4>And a lot of people liked the Commanders going into

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<v Speaker 4>this year because Jayden Daniels two years ago was fantastic,

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<v Speaker 4>and now it's like last year all over again.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. Okay. We also have some possibly bad news on

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<v Speaker 3>the quarterback front. It's Chicago Bears, but we don't really

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<v Speaker 3>know what's happening. It could be Caleb Williams comes back

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<v Speaker 3>for Monday night. It could be Tyson Bajan's out of

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<v Speaker 3>concussion protocol, or it could be my guy Case Keenum starting. Paul,

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<v Speaker 3>you're a Bears fan. What should they do?

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<v Speaker 5>I think this is a great news week for Chicago

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<v Speaker 5>Bears fans. Again, if you go back to.

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<v Speaker 4>When Caleb Williams went down and the Pope almost had

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<v Speaker 4>to lay hands on him to get him back, the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that he might miss one week and hasn't even

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<v Speaker 4>been declared out for that week We've seen this 100 times,

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<v Speaker 4>2,000 if you have the Internet. And at very worst,

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<v Speaker 4>he's out a game or two. Tyson Bajent might be

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<v Speaker 4>the bigger problem. He's in the concussion protocol. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think the bigger picture is the Bears were ready for

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<v Speaker 4>this at the quarterback position for a guy who doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>get hurt. Bajent was there. And Case Keenum is kind

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<v Speaker 4>of that player-coach era of his football career. But it's

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<v Speaker 4>not a guy who's going to embarrass you. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think Case Keenum can have a Jameis Winston-type game like

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<v Speaker 4>Jameis did.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. The Eagles defense has been pretty salty the first

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<v Speaker 3>two games. Really, the only thing that anybody's done against

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<v Speaker 3>them is quarterbacks running. Case is not going to run.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the issue. But Caleb isn't going to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to run with his hamstring either. This is a game

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<v Speaker 3>to me where you might sit Caleb Williams because you

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<v Speaker 3>don't want Jalen Carter coming after him. Is it that

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<v Speaker 3>necessary to get him out there?

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<v Speaker 4>Besides Jalen Carter, what's the pass rush for the Eagles

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<v Speaker 4>these days?

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<v Speaker 3>Pass rush is hit and miss.

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<v Speaker 5>Hit and miss.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean, it really comes up in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>with Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter. So that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a problem. Cam Ward ran around a lot, but

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<v Speaker 3>he's young and healthy. So I don't know that Caleb,

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<v Speaker 3>if he's out there, is going to want to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think this goes back to the Bears being

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<v Speaker 4>prepared at the quarterback position early in the season and

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<v Speaker 4>the New York Giants not being prepared. They had no

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<v Speaker 4>third-string emergency quarterback on the roster versus the Rams. Jameis

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<v Speaker 4>Winston stunk the joint up. They were in that game

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<v Speaker 4>with a couple turnovers. If they had a third string,

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<v Speaker 4>I think the wide receiver return man Braxton Berrios was

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<v Speaker 4>their emergency quarterback.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the Bears pay Tyson Bazard. I mean, not

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<v Speaker 3>many teams are paying a second string and a third

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<v Speaker 3>string quarterback as much as the Bears. I heard an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting take on Caleb Williams. Tell me what you think

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<v Speaker 3>of this. Oh, boy. If he's injured and he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a little bit hampered all season long, won't

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<v Speaker 3>be able to run, that might help him long-term to

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<v Speaker 3>learn how to pass out of the pocket. Because Caleb

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<v Speaker 3>does like to run to the right and look for

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<v Speaker 3>something downfield instead of taking the pass right in front

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<v Speaker 3>of him.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're saying not so fast. There is such thing

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<v Speaker 4>as a good injury or an upside to an injury?

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<v Speaker 3>Possible.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Caleb is more of a scrambler, keep plays alive

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<v Speaker 4>than a runner like a Vic or Lamar Jackson.

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<v Speaker 5>But his escapability is the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>He runs a lot, Paul.

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<v Speaker 4>He runs a lot, but he doesn't run dumb. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not saying Josh Allen runs dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>You saw the highlight. He just got hurt running out

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<v Speaker 3>to try and avoid a tackle.

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<v Speaker 4>He was barely running. He was trotting to the first

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<v Speaker 4>down there. I'm just saying, Caleb Williams is not a

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<v Speaker 4>contact guy.

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<v Speaker 5>He's not a guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember Jimmy Garoppolo years ago taking on contact or Andrew

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<v Speaker 4>Luck early in his career? He doesn't look for the contact.

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<v Speaker 4>He's more of a Russell Wilson guy. with more escapability.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but when you run, you never know what's going

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<v Speaker 3>to happen. All right, so you're optimistic about the Bears.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm pretty optimistic. Now, there is a thing in sports

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<v Speaker 4>media that you must do. It's a mandatory thing second

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<v Speaker 4>week of the season. The 0-2 team that's going to

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<v Speaker 4>make the playoffs and the 2-0 team that's going to

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<v Speaker 4>miss the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, Pearl, we all know the stat.

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<v Speaker 4>If you go 2-0, you're likely going to the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 4>and 0-2, it's like 80% chance you're not.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, is this still true with the expanded schedule? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>all the numbers are a little bit off.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't chop up the numbers, but let's start with,

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<v Speaker 5>how about this? We'll start with the graphic. 2-0 teams.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's take a look at them, Perloff. I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>what you're picking. You don't know what I'm picking.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Bills, Bengals, Eagles, Seahawks. Raiders, Chiefs, Vikings, Niners. You go first.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's not making the playoffs? Who's not making the playoffs? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>it's obviously not going to be the Bills. Obviously not

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<v Speaker 3>going to be my Eagles or the Seahawks. It seems

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<v Speaker 3>pretty obvious. I'm going to take the low-hanging fruit, the

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<v Speaker 3>Las Vegas Raiders.

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<v Speaker 5>You were high on the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 4>You love the Raiders, but they're not going to make

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<v Speaker 4>the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>I just threw my pen off camera by accident. That

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<v Speaker 3>was a hot take. Okay, the Raiders have the sixth

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<v Speaker 3>hardest remaining schedule. They have the NFC West on their schedule, Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a lot of hard games. They've got the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 5>So you like, don't love them?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I like what they're doing. I like the direction

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<v Speaker 3>they're going. There's no way they're going to get through

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<v Speaker 3>this schedule and make the playoffs. They're in the AFC

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<v Speaker 3>West with Kansas City Chiefs and the Denver Broncos. Explain

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<v Speaker 3>to me exactly what their path is. They're not winning

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<v Speaker 3>the division, and with that hard schedule, it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be too hard to get enough wins for the wild card.

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<v Speaker 5>Before my pick, if you're a Raiders fan, do you

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<v Speaker 5>want to make the playoffs?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now you do.

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<v Speaker 5>Like a wild card when you get bounced?

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<v Speaker 3>Why? You're not drafting a quarterback. You just took Fernando Mendoza,

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<v Speaker 3>number one overall. Why would you not want to be good?

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<v Speaker 4>But if you keep winning and stay relevant and stay

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<v Speaker 4>in the playoff hunt, you don't see Mendoza one snap

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<v Speaker 4>this year.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fine.

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<v Speaker 5>That is fine.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the Las Vegas Raiders, Paul. How often do

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<v Speaker 3>they make the playoffs? One year with Derek Carr? Are

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<v Speaker 3>you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 4>All right, who do you got? My 2-0 team that

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<v Speaker 4>will not make the playoffs, I'm going with the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the Vikings are quality, and they're a decent team.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think that division is going to get chewed up.

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<v Speaker 4>Bringing Kyler Murray back to me is... It's almost an obligation.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if it's the right football decision. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if he's more stable at the quarterback position

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<v Speaker 4>than Carson Wentz, and I think you agree with me.

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<v Speaker 4>Carson Wentz, to me, is like a safe B-level quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>Kyler Murray is a D one day and an A

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<v Speaker 4>the other, and you can't win that division where every

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<v Speaker 4>game is tough that way. I think the Vikings will

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<v Speaker 4>stay afloat for a while, but they're going to get

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<v Speaker 4>chewed up late.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they have a great roster around their quarterback. I

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<v Speaker 3>think Brian Flores, probably the best defensive coordinator in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 5>I still like them as a team.

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<v Speaker 4>I just don't think that Kyler Murray is the guy

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<v Speaker 4>who will win a late game for you.

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<v Speaker 5>He was more likely to lose a late game for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he came out, and I think his first pass

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<v Speaker 3>with the Vikings was an interception.

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<v Speaker 5>He set the bar nice and low.

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<v Speaker 3>And also, he could get hurt again. But you do

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<v Speaker 3>have Carson Wentz behind there. You know, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 3>to back you on this one. I think Minnesota could

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<v Speaker 3>get to 10 wins no matter who's playing quarterback. This

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<v Speaker 3>is a really good coaching staff.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, if you're picking Minnesota to make the playoffs, give

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<v Speaker 4>me your two teams for the NFC North that won't

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<v Speaker 4>make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, the Packers and Lions. Really? Really.

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<v Speaker 5>Lions, the Windows.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, and the Bears, maybe not either.

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<v Speaker 4>If the Vikings make it and nobody else makes it,

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<v Speaker 4>that would be the call of the year by you, Perloff.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's go to the 0-2 team that doesn't,

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<v Speaker 4>does make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, 0-2 team. Again, here's the list here. Obviously, we're

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<v Speaker 3>not putting the Dolphins. We're not putting the Commanders.

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<v Speaker 5>Wasn't it a waste of time to build the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 5>in that graphic?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm going to go with the obvious one again.

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<v Speaker 3>At least it seems obvious to me. Of course, it's

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<v Speaker 3>the Houston Texans.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>In part because everyone picked them to go deep into

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<v Speaker 3>the playoffs. But they've had a tough start to the

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<v Speaker 3>schedule with Cincinnati and Buffalo on their schedule. They were

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<v Speaker 3>right there with the Bills, who are arguably the best

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<v Speaker 3>team in the NFL. And the Bengals, their defense got hot.

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<v Speaker 3>But the issue with the Texans is Nico Collins has

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<v Speaker 3>not been out. He never is? Yeah, but he might

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<v Speaker 3>be back week three or four. Their whole offense depends

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<v Speaker 3>on their number one receiver. And TJ Stroud has not

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<v Speaker 3>played bad. This defense is still awesome. Tough schedule a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, but I think that they get some easy

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<v Speaker 3>wins against teams like Cleveland, and they find a way

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<v Speaker 3>to at least make the wild card with maybe the

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<v Speaker 3>Jags winning that division.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Their defense really concerns me because that was supposed to

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<v Speaker 4>be the best defense in the NFL, the most threatening

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<v Speaker 4>defense in the NFL to Texans.

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<v Speaker 5>And if they're not doing it, C.J. Stroud does not

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<v Speaker 5>show flashes of C.J.

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<v Speaker 6>Stroud.

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<v Speaker 5>From three years.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they did hold the Bengals to 20 points. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not like Joe Burrow lit them up. Josh Allen did

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<v Speaker 3>light them up. But I think their defense is going

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<v Speaker 3>to round into form. C.J. Stroud looks fine. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know why people are ripping him. He just has nobody

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<v Speaker 3>to throw to.

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<v Speaker 4>Fine is a rough word when you're talking about quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 4>When my wife comes up and says, what do you

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<v Speaker 4>think of this dress? If I say fine.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm in a lot of trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>If he was fine in last year's playoffs, Paul, Houston

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<v Speaker 3>Texans would have been in the AFC title game and

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<v Speaker 3>might have been the Super Bowl. But he was awful.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's why I'm taking fine.

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<v Speaker 5>If you're aspiring to be fine as a quarterback, I

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<v Speaker 5>worry about things.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, my 0-2 team that makes the playoffs, I begrudgingly

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<v Speaker 4>am going with the Falcons.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's why.

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<v Speaker 4>They stunk up the joint. I mean the joint being

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<v Speaker 4>Earth the first couple weeks of the season. The Falcons,

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<v Speaker 4>the two quarterbacks who played, not Tua, not Penix, a

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<v Speaker 4>couple guys you barely know and you shouldn't know because

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<v Speaker 4>they're awful.

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<v Speaker 5>And you have Drake London.

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<v Speaker 4>You have Pitts. You have Bijan Robinson. And you could

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<v Speaker 4>put together 16 points.

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<v Speaker 5>Perloff, you could have scored a couple points with this team.

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<v Speaker 4>It gets tougher, but I think the Falcons are generally

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<v Speaker 4>a quality team, and they have a decent defense and

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of skilled position players. I like that Penix

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<v Speaker 4>didn't start early before he was physically ready. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think that I'm calling out the division. Saints are a

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<v Speaker 4>nice story. The Panthers are a nice story. I think

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<v Speaker 4>there's going to be a battle, and I could see

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<v Speaker 4>the Falcons riding the ship tonight against Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a teaser.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And Michael Penix, who everyone likes as a quarterback. They

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<v Speaker 4>just don't like his knees.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, man. I don't know, Paul.

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<v Speaker 5>Go back to college. People love this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I love Penix. I'm just talking about the Falcons

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<v Speaker 3>in general. I think Kevin Stefanski has been a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit exposed, the head coach, the first two weeks. Are

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<v Speaker 3>you sure, even with panics, they can win enough games

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<v Speaker 3>to make the playoffs?

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<v Speaker 4>That's another reason I like them, because Stefanski's seen bad

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<v Speaker 4>teams before. He knows bad football. This guy's an expert

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<v Speaker 4>on coaching bad football teams.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but he loses a lot of those games with

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<v Speaker 3>bad football teams.

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<v Speaker 5>But now he has a decent team around him.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they're going to be okay-ish, but the bar

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<v Speaker 4>has been set so low, so early, everyone's off.

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<v Speaker 5>If there was a Falcons bandwagon, nobody stayed on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's funny. I actually looked at the Bucs at

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<v Speaker 3>0-2 because I had the same thought. NFC South, you

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<v Speaker 3>win eight games, you're probably in the playoffs. Why not

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<v Speaker 3>the Bucs?

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<v Speaker 5>I was coin flipping that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And the Bucks disappoint me more. And they are more

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<v Speaker 4>known to disappoint me the past couple years. They find

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<v Speaker 4>a way to be down at halftime, get it close,

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<v Speaker 4>and then lose at the end.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know. I guess one team has to

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<v Speaker 3>make the playoffs. New Orleans to me, if I want

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<v Speaker 3>to do a mulligan, I'm picking New Orleans, but you're

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<v Speaker 3>not there.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, I'm not. And we checked the box, 0-2, 2-0,

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<v Speaker 5>mandatory in sports.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's 75% and 16%, Paul.

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<v Speaker 5>You might be making those up.

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<v Speaker 3>Could be. All right, coming up next on Not So Fast,

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<v Speaker 3>we dive into an exciting college football weekend. What is

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<v Speaker 3>the game of the weekend? Paul and I will debate.

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<v Speaker 3>That's next, Not So Fast.

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<v Speaker 5>Pearl, it's time for the midday pick-me-up. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 5>A little baseball. Let's go out to Seattle. Great unis

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<v Speaker 5>out there. You know that. Bango. That's Josh Naylor. No

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<v Speaker 5>problem there. Getting the win. Nice win for Seattle. Walk-off.

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<v Speaker 5>The fans are going crazy. Now, they stave off elimination.

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<v Speaker 5>Checking my notes, they have a. 1 chance to make

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<v Speaker 5>the playoffs. Everybody has to lose, and they have to

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<v Speaker 5>win out.

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't seem likely to me, Paul.

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<v Speaker 5>Not likely, but we're saying there's a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. The fans are into it. I like this. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the whole point of the wild card, to keep everybody alive,

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<v Speaker 3>but this is not really too alive.

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<v Speaker 4>We are the official show of Seattle sports today. Darnold

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<v Speaker 4>and Josh Naylor, look at us. All right, it's time

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<v Speaker 4>for some warm takes. Pabst and Perloff, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>get you going. I'm going to start off, Perloff. My

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<v Speaker 4>first warm take is this. College football this weekend, heck

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<v Speaker 4>of a slate. There's a lot of good games down

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<v Speaker 4>in Knoxville, a lot of places. Oregon-USC this weekend is

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<v Speaker 4>a great game. It may not be a great game itself.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't know. But Oregon, they started a little slow.

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<v Speaker 5>They righted the ship. They should be okay. Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 5>USC football. They're 4-0 right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, it's a shaky 4-0 because of the teams they beat.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't have to get into it, but they barely

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<v Speaker 4>got by Rutgers.

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<v Speaker 5>No offense.

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<v Speaker 4>USC football has not been national title relevant in about

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<v Speaker 4>six years. And that's a long stretch for them. Remember

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<v Speaker 4>the Clay Harbor days? Lincoln Riley was brought there from

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<v Speaker 4>Oklahoma to win national titles.

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<v Speaker 5>Not to be decent. Not to win seven games. And

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<v Speaker 5>this is it. You're 4-0.

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<v Speaker 4>You got Oregon. Oregon's not the Oregon that we thought

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<v Speaker 4>they were. You win on Saturday, you're in position. You'll

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<v Speaker 4>be talked about on national shows like this, the Dan

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<v Speaker 4>Patrick Show, all over the place.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe game day will come back out there.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you lose to Oregon, you're in a big

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<v Speaker 4>jam because it gets a lot tougher.

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<v Speaker 5>You have Ohio State later this season. You have Penn

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<v Speaker 5>State in two weeks. You have Indiana.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember, can you imagine a world where I'd say, USC

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<v Speaker 4>has to be scared of going into Bloomington?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you do. Because they'll be favorited. USC football, Lincoln-Riley,

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<v Speaker 5>this is it.

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<v Speaker 4>Take down Oregon, take down Penn State in two weeks,

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<v Speaker 4>and then we'll start talking about you again because we

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<v Speaker 4>haven't in a long, long time.

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<v Speaker 3>I totally agree, but let me ask you something. Everything

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<v Speaker 3>we learned in the first three weeks of college football,

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<v Speaker 3>are we sure that's actually what's happening in college football?

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<v Speaker 3>I think Oregon might be great or they might be bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care too much about the week one and

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<v Speaker 3>two results.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, probably not, but USC is not in that tenuous place.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they're ranked 12th right now, and that is

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<v Speaker 4>a soft 12 because San Jose State's Fresno State, that

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't help you very much. But they have a great

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<v Speaker 4>freshman class. What they don't have is a great junior

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<v Speaker 4>and senior class.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. They look terrible against Rutgers. There's no way around it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so beat Oregon. We'll talk about you again.

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<v Speaker 1>Or.

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<v Speaker 3>Lose to Oregon, then Oregon turns out to be great,

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<v Speaker 3>then beat Ohio State. But I hear what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't hear what you're saying. All right, I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to pick another glamour program, Paul, and that's the Texas Longhorns. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump will go to see Texas at Tennessee this

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<v Speaker 3>weekend at noon, number one versus number 14, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not surprised. Last week, the media made a massive deal

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<v Speaker 3>out of LSU Ole Miss. But, Paul, which do you

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<v Speaker 3>think rated higher, Texas Ohio State or LSU Ole Miss?

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<v Speaker 5>Texas Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 3>By many, many millions. I cheated.

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<v Speaker 5>I looked it up.

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<v Speaker 3>So, Texas has Arch Manning, obviously. I think Texas is

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<v Speaker 3>the premier program in college football. They have a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a Dallas Cowboys feel. I'll even say it. There's

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<v Speaker 3>something about Sark, the entire program, the colors, the history.

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<v Speaker 3>People love when the Texas Longhorns are good at football. So,

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<v Speaker 3>I think no matter who they're playing, they are a

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<v Speaker 3>must-watch TV. Then you add in Arch Manning, forget about it.

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<v Speaker 3>They are... The Glamour team in college football right now,

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<v Speaker 3>they're the team you must watch. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a great game against Tennessee. Now, Tennessee's got a young quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>Texas has no excuse to lose. A lot of big-time

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<v Speaker 3>SEC games coming up. I think Texas is going to

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<v Speaker 3>outrate everybody throughout the year. And the best thing for

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<v Speaker 3>the sport would be for Texas to make the playoff

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<v Speaker 3>and do something. Paul, what do you think?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we talked about that a couple weeks on Not

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<v Speaker 4>So Fast. The ideal thing would be Notre Dame-Texas. That

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<v Speaker 4>would be a fantastic national title game. Lots of star power,

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<v Speaker 4>lots of alums. The Manning family name goes a long way.

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<v Speaker 4>My kids know the Manning family.

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<v Speaker 3>They know who Arch is. 100%.

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<v Speaker 4>My children know who Arch Manning is, not just the

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<v Speaker 4>older Mannings. So he crosses over, and that's where a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of those ratings come from. Texas is a national brand.

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<v Speaker 4>So is Ohio State. But you throw a Manning in there,

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<v Speaker 4>everyone knows who he is.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think a good debate would be Ohio

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<v Speaker 3>State versus Notre Dame. Because Ohio State also does massive

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<v Speaker 3>numbers every time they play. Those, to me, are like

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<v Speaker 3>three NFL teams as far as nationwide interest.

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<v Speaker 5>And going back to USC, a generation ago, USC was

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<v Speaker 5>one of those teams.

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<v Speaker 3>USC used to be.

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<v Speaker 5>Leinert, Bush, Lendell, White, all those guys, they were the

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<v Speaker 5>pros of Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say Alabama is the fourth team in that mix.

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<v Speaker 3>And Georgia's not far behind.

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<v Speaker 5>Not far behind.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let me get to my next warm take.

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<v Speaker 4>It has been a weird week of Chicago sports. Caleb

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<v Speaker 4>Williams gets hurt, then he's not so hurt. But it's

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<v Speaker 4>been a really weird week for the Chicago media. And

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<v Speaker 4>I watch a lot of it. I listen to a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of it. They went from being glad that their quarterback,

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<v Speaker 4>if you've seen this play possibly a hundred times, they

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<v Speaker 4>went from being in total panic because their savior of

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<v Speaker 4>the franchise is out for the season to he's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be okay to he's an internet sensation because everyone's

0:17:36.820 --> 0:17:40.399
<v Speaker 4>goofing on him because he maybe reacted like he was

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<v Speaker 4>out for the season when he was out for two weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>The Chicago media is playing more defense than the Bears

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<v Speaker 4>are playing these days. They are very, hey, we can

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<v Speaker 4>make fun of our guy, but you can't make fun

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<v Speaker 4>of our guy.

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<v Speaker 5>I would say relax. Caleb is a big boy. He's

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<v Speaker 5>going to be fine.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't have to call out everybody in the media

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<v Speaker 4>or everyone on social media who's kind of poking your

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<v Speaker 4>quarterback for his reaction after being hurt. I will say

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<v Speaker 4>I have seen some people on both sides of the aisle.

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen some people say, sports media people, actual paid

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<v Speaker 4>sports media members say, Caleb Williams was acting there. He

0:18:10.750 --> 0:18:13.369
<v Speaker 4>was making himself into more than it was. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think you act like you're hurt more than you are. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>people have different tolerance pain or how they show it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've seen other people in sports media take up

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<v Speaker 4>for Caleb Williams as if they work for the Bears

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<v Speaker 4>and they're protecting him.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't have to do either. You could just talk

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<v Speaker 5>about this guy.

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<v Speaker 4>The issue is Caleb Williams gets clicks, and the Bears

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<v Speaker 4>get clicks, but it's Caleb Williams. And so people like

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<v Speaker 4>to pick a side with him and say, he's soft,

0:18:35.820 --> 0:18:38.419
<v Speaker 4>he's acting, he's a diva, he paints his fingernails. The

0:18:38.460 --> 0:18:41.160
<v Speaker 4>other side says, stay away from our quarterback. You don't

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<v Speaker 4>work for the Bears. It's their quarterback. So have a

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<v Speaker 4>little objectivity, cover the story, and don't defend Caleb Williams.

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<v Speaker 4>He'll defend himself when he gets on the field and

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<v Speaker 4>he gets in front of the mic again.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very logical. Well said. But come on, dude. It's

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<v Speaker 3>Caleb Williams. What's the deal with this guy?

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<v Speaker 5>See, I think you could have a little fun with it.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw the different memes where Caleb Williams is holding

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<v Speaker 4>the towel and doing the fist up and says, when

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<v Speaker 4>you successfully get your takeout order with no mistakes.

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<v Speaker 5>That's funny. And it's not a global desecration of our quarterback.

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<v Speaker 5>Laugh a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>Realize that his reaction was a little over the top

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<v Speaker 4>for the injury it turned out to be.

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<v Speaker 5>But you don't have to go to bat for him.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very curious in three years where we stand on

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<v Speaker 3>Caleb Williams. Is he going to... I guess, mature in

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<v Speaker 3>some people's mind? Are we going to look at him

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<v Speaker 3>as the ultimate professional or just sort of an oddball

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<v Speaker 3>who's incredibly talented and a good quarterback?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think the oddball days may go back to college,

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<v Speaker 4>his first year in the league. He seems to be

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<v Speaker 4>not doing anything odd these days, but people want to

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<v Speaker 4>force that issue.

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<v Speaker 3>That was odd.

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<v Speaker 5>It was odd.

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<v Speaker 3>You're being like the Chicago media. You don't see that

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<v Speaker 3>as odd?

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<v Speaker 5>You're screaming? Yeah, a little bit. I saw J.J.

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<v Speaker 4>Watt on a show the other day, and Watt was

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<v Speaker 4>asked about it. He goes, I pulled my hamstring. It

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<v Speaker 4>hurts more than you know. I trust J.J. Watt that

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<v Speaker 4>he knows about hamstrings more than we do, but he

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<v Speaker 4>also said that when I saw.

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<v Speaker 5>The reaction, I thought it was way, way worse.

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<v Speaker 2>We all did.

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<v Speaker 5>So you could think both.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess it feels like you're trying to toe

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<v Speaker 3>the line, and I think you're secretly defending Caleb Williams.

0:20:08.820 --> 0:20:11.750
<v Speaker 5>Secretly, not Putting my Caleb Williams shirt out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. I have a much harder job right now, Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to defend Aaron Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, good luck.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been a tough week in the media for Aaron Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 3>No surprise. He had a terrible game last weekend against

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<v Speaker 3>New England. And now he plays Cincinnati. Now, traditionally, you

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<v Speaker 3>know how the AFC North works. When the Steelers look

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<v Speaker 3>like they're struggling and the other team looks good, that's

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<v Speaker 3>a guaranteed Mike Tomlin victory. Guaranteed. They might as well

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<v Speaker 3>not even suit up. It's usually 19-13. Now, it's a

0:20:37.410 --> 0:20:40.649
<v Speaker 3>new coach in Pittsburgh. But I think Pittsburgh is underrated

0:20:40.670 --> 0:20:43.390
<v Speaker 3>coming into this game. And I think Cincinnati is overrated

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<v Speaker 3>coming into this game. Now, I'm not guaranteeing a win.

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<v Speaker 3>But Pittsburgh's defense looks awesome. Cincinnati's defense looks good, too.

0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:52.320
<v Speaker 3>But guess who Cincinnati's played? The Bucs, who are an

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<v Speaker 3>absolute mess. And then they played a Houston Texans team

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<v Speaker 3>without their best receiver. Listen to these Texans wide receivers

0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:04.109
<v Speaker 3>that they have. Xavier Hutchison, some guy named Jack Wayne. Oh, sorry.

0:21:04.609 --> 0:21:08.410
<v Speaker 3>Jared Wayne and Keishon Butte. Is that going to hurt anybody?

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<v Speaker 3>So Cincinnati's defense is getting all these headlines, Paul. They

0:21:10.990 --> 0:21:14.060
<v Speaker 3>play two bad offenses. Now they play another bad offense

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<v Speaker 3>this week. But Aaron Rodgers was so much better than

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<v Speaker 3>everyone's portraying last week. Key drop by DK Metcalf changed

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<v Speaker 3>the game. A fumble in the red zone. Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 3>is the same quarterback as last year. And last year

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<v Speaker 3>in two games against Cincinnati, he averaged over 30 points.

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<v Speaker 3>He can still make that kind of throw that we're

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<v Speaker 3>seeing on camera right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I will give you credit for the warmth of this take,

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<v Speaker 4>but I cannot co-sign this take. I just watched the

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<v Speaker 4>Steelers and Aaron Rodgers. He stands motionless in the pocket,

0:21:39.790 --> 0:21:41.750
<v Speaker 4>and they don't realize that they have to block for him.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the Bengals are empowered the past couple weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that the players on the Bengals, when was

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<v Speaker 4>the last time the Bengals got any run nationally about

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<v Speaker 4>their defense and not about Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase?

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<v Speaker 4>I think they're going to be licking their chops to

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<v Speaker 4>get this guy. I do think the Steelers will right

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<v Speaker 4>the ship-ish, but this could be a really awful year

0:21:59.260 --> 0:22:01.440
<v Speaker 4>for them and maybe put them in a quarterback draft position.

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<v Speaker 4>I know we're not there yet, but I think the

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<v Speaker 4>Bengals are going to eat this guy alive.

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<v Speaker 3>Ooh, we'll see. I mean, I think the Steelers are

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<v Speaker 3>going to be 9-8.

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<v Speaker 5>Are we keeping it friendly on this one?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what's the spread? I'll take the Steelers to cover.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I'll take the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just think, and also this Bengals defensive storyline.

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<v Speaker 3>It's two games, and everyone's making it sound like they're

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<v Speaker 3>the purple people eaters or whatever. There's no great Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 3>defense nickname.

0:22:21.260 --> 0:22:24.490
<v Speaker 5>Bengals are giving 3.5. Still want it? Yeah. There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this game is going to be really tight.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Aaron Rodgers, the panic is overstated. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>good last year, and they still got to the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, Pearl, that's a bet. There's a bet. Put

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<v Speaker 5>it in the book, Scotty. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's play another game, you and I. No money on

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<v Speaker 4>this one. We're just going to play a little Who

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<v Speaker 4>Said It. You got some points yesterday. I am a

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<v Speaker 4>donut on this.

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<v Speaker 5>Who said it? Football related. Here's the quote. Let's go.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he can throw it. I mean, he's big, strong,

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<v Speaker 4>passing quarterback. He can throw the ball. Everybody that follows

0:22:49.580 --> 0:22:52.700
<v Speaker 4>football has certainly seen him play. His strengths are evident.

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<v Speaker 4>That's got to be John Harbaugh on Jameis Winston.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm co-signing. I want half a point.

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<v Speaker 5>Or should we go with a player from the team

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<v Speaker 5>on Jameis Winston?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, okay. I'll take Malik Neighbors.

0:23:04.630 --> 0:23:08.730
<v Speaker 5>I'll take John Harbaugh of the Giants. Here we go. Well,

0:23:08.750 --> 0:23:09.290
<v Speaker 5>he can throw it.

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<v Speaker 7>He's a big, strong, passing quarterback. He can throw the ball.

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<v Speaker 7>Everybody that follows football has certainly seen Jameis play, and

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<v Speaker 7>his strengths are evident.

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<v Speaker 5>That is Mr.

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<v Speaker 4>Pot of John Harbaugh of the Giants talking about Jameis Winston. Now,

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm pretty sure he watched the Rams game because he

0:23:27.619 --> 0:23:29.859
<v Speaker 4>was on the sidelines. He kind of maybe erased it

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<v Speaker 4>from his memory.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, actually, I don't think he bought into what he

0:23:32.820 --> 0:23:34.980
<v Speaker 3>was saying. I think he was being a little defensive there.

0:23:35.020 --> 0:23:37.020
<v Speaker 5>That's a must-compliment situation if you're a coach.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's a quarterback. I hope he can throw

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<v Speaker 3>the football.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and being big is not really an accomplishment because,

0:23:42.270 --> 0:23:43.850
<v Speaker 4>you know, if you put on weight, all of us

0:23:43.869 --> 0:23:44.350
<v Speaker 4>can be big.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a little weird how bad Jameis was because

0:23:46.530 --> 0:23:48.830
<v Speaker 3>we've seen a lot of Jameis Winston. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>who that quarterback was on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>He also called him a passing quarterback. I mean, that

0:23:52.530 --> 0:23:55.030
<v Speaker 4>seems inherently part of the job. Like, you just have

0:23:55.050 --> 0:23:55.570
<v Speaker 4>to pass the ball.

0:23:55.830 --> 0:23:56.790
<v Speaker 3>Unless you're Tim Tebow.

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<v Speaker 5>Fair point, fair point. All right, that's it for us.

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<v Speaker 5>We got a point. I'm giving myself a point on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, good job.

0:24:02.100 --> 0:24:03.920
<v Speaker 4>Coming up next, we're going to check in on those

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:06.700
<v Speaker 4>New York Giants. What are they doing at the quarterback position?

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<v Speaker 4>Are they thinking long-term, short-term, or not thinking at all?

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<v Speaker 5>Stick around. It's not so fast.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back. Not so fast. Perloff and Paps. A lot

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<v Speaker 3>of news this week out of New York Giants land.

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<v Speaker 3>Jackson Dart looks like he's out for most of the season,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's some confusion, Paul.

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:26.340
<v Speaker 4>It's a little confusing. Whole season, regular season, postseason. When

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:29.620
<v Speaker 4>is the surgery? What's the backup situation? There's a lot unanswered.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so to get those answers, we're going to go

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<v Speaker 3>to one of the best in the biz, Pat Leonard,

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 3>New York Daily News, Giants beat reporter. Pat, take us

0:24:36.300 --> 0:24:39.419
<v Speaker 3>through the TikTok of finding out that Jackson Dart wasn't

0:24:39.500 --> 0:24:42.300
<v Speaker 3>out four to six weeks, as many of us expected,

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:43.720
<v Speaker 3>but out for the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to be with you guys. The Giants are down.

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<v Speaker 6>They're shell-shocked right now because of exactly what you just said.

0:24:51.580 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 6>I was talking to John Runyon, their starting left guard,

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<v Speaker 6>after he had heard the news that Dart was out

0:24:57.140 --> 0:24:59.679
<v Speaker 6>for the season. And he said it was devastating, not

0:24:59.700 --> 0:25:03.119
<v Speaker 6>just because they lost their franchise quarterback, but because he

0:25:03.180 --> 0:25:05.550
<v Speaker 6>saw Dart standing on the sidelines after the injury on

0:25:05.570 --> 0:25:08.890
<v Speaker 6>Monday Night Football. And what Dart was telling him was

0:25:08.910 --> 0:25:10.570
<v Speaker 6>he was in a little bit of pain and discomfort,

0:25:10.630 --> 0:25:13.270
<v Speaker 6>didn't think it was too serious. They thought four to

0:25:13.310 --> 0:25:15.889
<v Speaker 6>six weeks tops. But what happened was they got an

0:25:16.010 --> 0:25:19.450
<v Speaker 6>MRI the next day. The results showed tears in the

0:25:19.570 --> 0:25:21.869
<v Speaker 6>MCL and then the meniscus, which is the key one,

0:25:21.890 --> 0:25:24.780
<v Speaker 6>as well as damage to the PCL. Dart, of course,

0:25:24.940 --> 0:25:27.619
<v Speaker 6>trying to play through, seeking second opinions on whether actually

0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:30.260
<v Speaker 6>he does need the season ending surgery. But the best

0:25:30.300 --> 0:25:32.879
<v Speaker 6>thing for him as an athlete long term is to

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:34.859
<v Speaker 6>get that done. And so the Giants went from a

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:37.619
<v Speaker 6>punch in the gut to kind of an uppercut to

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:37.900
<v Speaker 6>the chin.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, when I was watching that game, it looked like

0:25:40.410 --> 0:25:42.350
<v Speaker 4>a hard hit. But when you see him come back

0:25:42.430 --> 0:25:43.889
<v Speaker 4>out there, I think, oh, he's going to be okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And the irony is, we've talked about this on this

0:25:46.090 --> 0:25:48.230
<v Speaker 4>show and other shows, is that last year he was

0:25:48.310 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 4>quite reckless. And he started sliding a little bit. In

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:52.939
<v Speaker 4>week one, I saw him slide a couple times. It

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 4>felt like he was learning his lesson. So the irony

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 4>gets hit in the pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, definitely.

0:25:58.619 --> 0:26:02.590
<v Speaker 6>The thing about Jackson that coming into year two, The

0:26:02.619 --> 0:26:05.230
<v Speaker 6>key was learn how to play more as a pocket

0:26:05.250 --> 0:26:07.610
<v Speaker 6>passer who runs rather than as a running back or

0:26:07.730 --> 0:26:09.340
<v Speaker 6>as a running quarterback who throws.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're right.

0:26:10.700 --> 0:26:13.500
<v Speaker 6>Through two games, you were seeing more of that. And

0:26:13.540 --> 0:26:16.050
<v Speaker 6>it is ironic that he gets hurt, quote unquote, in

0:26:16.090 --> 0:26:16.550
<v Speaker 6>the pocket.

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<v Speaker 3>But.

0:26:17.570 --> 0:26:20.710
<v Speaker 6>Here was another key evaluation point of Jackson. He's still

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<v Speaker 6>an undersized quarterback who through two seasons or a season

0:26:25.900 --> 0:26:27.780
<v Speaker 6>and a couple of weeks was still learning how to

0:26:27.859 --> 0:26:31.159
<v Speaker 6>see the field, see downfield and make those decisions in

0:26:31.180 --> 0:26:34.730
<v Speaker 6>those split seconds decisions that are the difference really between taking.

0:26:35.210 --> 0:26:36.370
<v Speaker 2>The massive hits and not.

0:26:36.710 --> 0:26:40.130
<v Speaker 6>And frankly, even though the, the win over the Dallas

0:26:40.150 --> 0:26:43.440
<v Speaker 6>Cowboys was so promising guys in the preseason, he took

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:46.379
<v Speaker 6>a massive blindside hit on a, on a simulated pressure

0:26:46.980 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 6>in week one against Dallas, Caleb downs, rocked him and

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 6>forced to fumble on a blitz from the outside. And

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:56.010
<v Speaker 6>now here, yes, your tackles are just getting clean beat,

0:26:56.030 --> 0:26:59.010
<v Speaker 6>which is an even more concerning thing going on now

0:26:59.030 --> 0:27:02.090
<v Speaker 6>with James Winston under center, frankly, but yeah, Dart still

0:27:02.390 --> 0:27:04.350
<v Speaker 6>really hasn't been able to show that he can avoid

0:27:04.430 --> 0:27:07.929
<v Speaker 6>taking the hits that so far he hasn't been able

0:27:07.950 --> 0:27:08.390
<v Speaker 6>to survive.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Pat, play out this scenario. The Giants season

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 3>goes off the rails as very easily could happen. What

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:16.980
<v Speaker 3>if they're in the top five or top ten and

0:27:17.020 --> 0:27:19.260
<v Speaker 3>a quarterback is available? How about one with the last

0:27:19.300 --> 0:27:22.570
<v Speaker 3>name Manning? Do you think they're sold on Jackson Dart

0:27:22.630 --> 0:27:24.750
<v Speaker 3>no matter what happens come draft time next year?

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<v Speaker 2>No, Andrew, I think that's an excellent question.

0:27:28.220 --> 0:27:30.100
<v Speaker 6>And I was talking about this the other day on

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 6>my Talking Ball with Pat Leonard podcast over on YouTube

0:27:33.740 --> 0:27:36.790
<v Speaker 6>after the game in L.A. It's that there are plenty

0:27:36.810 --> 0:27:39.110
<v Speaker 6>of people, Giants fans and people in the Giants building

0:27:39.170 --> 0:27:41.949
<v Speaker 6>who wouldn't want to hear this question or have this conversation.

0:27:42.470 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 6>but it is a very real conversation now about where

0:27:45.820 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 6>this goes. This is not John Harbaugh's quarterback. It was

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.420
<v Speaker 6>his quarterback to start this season. He did not draft

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:54.620
<v Speaker 6>Jackson dart and he was trying to make it work

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:56.090
<v Speaker 6>and they were determined to make it work. And they

0:27:56.109 --> 0:27:58.570
<v Speaker 6>still have a high opinion of Jackson, but if they

0:27:58.590 --> 0:28:01.110
<v Speaker 6>have a top five pick and arch Manning is there,

0:28:01.850 --> 0:28:03.550
<v Speaker 6>Who is going to look me in the eye or

0:28:03.590 --> 0:28:05.550
<v Speaker 6>you in the eye and tell us that the New

0:28:05.609 --> 0:28:09.230
<v Speaker 6>York Giants aren't going to try to make that happen, right,

0:28:09.350 --> 0:28:14.050
<v Speaker 6>with the history of Eli Manning? And also, frankly, Dart,

0:28:14.150 --> 0:28:17.910
<v Speaker 6>as promising and talented as he is, doesn't have enough

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:21.409
<v Speaker 6>of a resume to say, well, Jackson will just get

0:28:21.450 --> 0:28:23.990
<v Speaker 6>healthy and we'll draft a Jeremiah Smith or a receiver

0:28:24.010 --> 0:28:26.370
<v Speaker 6>and we'll be off and running next year and everything

0:28:26.390 --> 0:28:30.510
<v Speaker 6>will be fine. You're still unanswered on the question of

0:28:30.530 --> 0:28:33.470
<v Speaker 6>can Jackson can sustain it. So there would be the

0:28:33.530 --> 0:28:36.350
<v Speaker 6>element of being in position to make that pick. And

0:28:36.369 --> 0:28:39.510
<v Speaker 6>then also the lingering questions about is Jackson the guy

0:28:39.650 --> 0:28:41.650
<v Speaker 6>and does John Harbaugh have an idea of a different

0:28:41.690 --> 0:28:42.710
<v Speaker 6>kind of QB he wants here?

0:28:43.090 --> 0:28:44.690
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that could be like a situation we were talking

0:28:44.710 --> 0:28:46.620
<v Speaker 4>about it yesterday and not so fast when Peyton Manning

0:28:46.630 --> 0:28:49.450
<v Speaker 4>has a neck injury and Peyton Manning is bigger than

0:28:49.490 --> 0:28:51.730
<v Speaker 4>Jackson Dart, they stumbled into Andrew Luck. I want to

0:28:51.780 --> 0:28:54.420
<v Speaker 4>back up a little bit. Right now with the Giants today,

0:28:54.860 --> 0:28:56.820
<v Speaker 4>how do you think they address the quarterback position for

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 4>the rest of the year? Do they stay with Winston

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:02.180
<v Speaker 4>and just get a serviceable backup? Or do they maybe

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:03.980
<v Speaker 4>make a play for a quarterback and see if they

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:05.100
<v Speaker 4>can make a season out of this?

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:08.910
<v Speaker 6>Well, Harbaugh said flat out they're going to get another

0:29:08.950 --> 0:29:11.350
<v Speaker 6>quarterback in here. He said he would prefer a veteran,

0:29:11.370 --> 0:29:13.630
<v Speaker 6>but it doesn't have to be one. He also said

0:29:13.790 --> 0:29:15.930
<v Speaker 6>anything's on the table. So it could be a signing

0:29:16.170 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 6>of a free agent. or it could be a trade

0:29:18.220 --> 0:29:22.020
<v Speaker 6>of somebody on another team. Now, the big question to me, we'll,

0:29:22.060 --> 0:29:24.220
<v Speaker 6>we'll name some names in a second, but the big

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 6>question to me is this, are you acquiring a quarterback

0:29:28.060 --> 0:29:31.110
<v Speaker 6>to be a serviceable backup to Jamis Winston? If you

0:29:31.150 --> 0:29:36.210
<v Speaker 6>go get one, or are you already doubting Jamis and

0:29:36.250 --> 0:29:39.690
<v Speaker 6>acquiring this new QB to learn the offense and replace him?

0:29:39.730 --> 0:29:42.050
<v Speaker 6>Because I think as far as the functioning of your

0:29:42.130 --> 0:29:45.350
<v Speaker 6>locker room where Jameis is popular and the chemistry of

0:29:45.390 --> 0:29:46.770
<v Speaker 6>your team, there's a lot of things you have to

0:29:46.790 --> 0:29:49.010
<v Speaker 6>think about with the balance of this. Not to mention

0:29:49.050 --> 0:29:52.950
<v Speaker 6>that they already gave Jameis a contract extension less than

0:29:52.990 --> 0:29:55.770
<v Speaker 6>a month ago because they thought he was so good

0:29:55.850 --> 0:29:58.820
<v Speaker 6>as a backup and that he could play. So they

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 6>wouldn't look very good if they did that either.

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 2>But.

0:30:01.220 --> 0:30:03.420
<v Speaker 6>I would say Jimmy Garoppolo is the name that has

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:07.100
<v Speaker 6>come up. Gardner Minshew I've heard floated around as a

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:10.590
<v Speaker 6>guy who has a history with Matt Nagy. Frankly, this weekend,

0:30:10.650 --> 0:30:13.490
<v Speaker 6>I saw Mitch Trubisky as the backup in Tennessee. Nagy

0:30:13.510 --> 0:30:15.650
<v Speaker 6>calling plays, had some of his best years with him

0:30:15.790 --> 0:30:16.990
<v Speaker 6>in Chicago going back.

0:30:17.490 --> 0:30:18.810
<v Speaker 2>But are these teams going to.

0:30:19.890 --> 0:30:23.250
<v Speaker 6>Are these teams, you know, bending over, you know, eager

0:30:23.550 --> 0:30:28.390
<v Speaker 6>to jump up and help the Giants solve their quarterback problem? No,

0:30:28.410 --> 0:30:31.100
<v Speaker 6>like a Mac Jones in San Francisco, it's easy to

0:30:31.140 --> 0:30:32.900
<v Speaker 6>look at what he did last year when Purdy was

0:30:32.980 --> 0:30:35.420
<v Speaker 6>out and say, well, yeah, go get him. But the

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 6>Niners would be asking for the moon, you would think,

0:30:38.140 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 6>if you were going to get a Mac Jones. And

0:30:40.140 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 6>it's not like Kyle Shanahan cares about John Harbaugh and

0:30:42.380 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 6>the Giants.

0:30:42.780 --> 0:30:43.310
<v Speaker 2>Problem, so.

0:30:44.180 --> 0:30:47.170
<v Speaker 6>I think there's not exactly an embarrassment of riches when

0:30:47.190 --> 0:30:49.550
<v Speaker 6>it comes to who you're going to go get to

0:30:49.590 --> 0:30:51.630
<v Speaker 6>turn your season around. And then Harbaugh does need to

0:30:51.670 --> 0:30:54.490
<v Speaker 6>be cautious about who he's bringing in and why he's

0:30:54.550 --> 0:30:58.430
<v Speaker 6>bringing them in. JJ McCarthy is a name I've heard,

0:30:58.490 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 6>but I don't know. I mean, it seemed like they

0:31:01.020 --> 0:31:03.140
<v Speaker 6>pulled him from their preseason game against the Giants because

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:05.620
<v Speaker 6>he was playing so poorly when the Vikings were here.

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:07.340
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's the answer, guys.

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 1>No.

0:31:08.110 --> 0:31:10.290
<v Speaker 3>All right, Pat, I see you are in the Meadowlands

0:31:10.330 --> 0:31:12.630
<v Speaker 3>parking lot, a parking lot I know all too well.

0:31:12.690 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 3>So I'll let you get to work in the Giants facility.

0:31:15.060 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 3>It's going to be an interesting week, buddy. Thanks for

0:31:17.140 --> 0:31:17.460
<v Speaker 3>the time.

0:31:18.460 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 2>You got it. Talking Ball with Pat Leonard on YouTube.

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 3>Love it. We will check it out. Oh, man.

0:31:23.910 --> 0:31:25.930
<v Speaker 4>I've been in that parking lot a lot. I usually

0:31:25.950 --> 0:31:27.410
<v Speaker 4>have a red solo cup in my hand. I'm not

0:31:27.470 --> 0:31:28.350
<v Speaker 4>usually covering any sports.

0:31:28.370 --> 0:31:30.910
<v Speaker 3>Well, I know when it's empty after the game, after

0:31:30.950 --> 0:31:33.219
<v Speaker 3>you spend two hours in the press box, you go

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:35.300
<v Speaker 3>down and there's about a million and a half seagulls.

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:38.540
<v Speaker 3>By the way, Pat had an interesting answer about Arch Manning.

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 3>This is a real issue because we loved Jackson Dart

0:31:40.900 --> 0:31:43.459
<v Speaker 3>about three weeks ago. Now we're talking about drafting a quarterback.

0:31:43.500 --> 0:31:45.650
<v Speaker 4>It could be something you stumble into you didn't intend

0:31:45.670 --> 0:31:47.270
<v Speaker 4>to stumble into, and it's not on the radar. Now,

0:31:47.310 --> 0:31:49.850
<v Speaker 4>they can't address it. No one, the GM, the coach,

0:31:49.890 --> 0:31:51.890
<v Speaker 4>they can never even entertain this when it's asked of them.

0:31:52.330 --> 0:31:54.810
<v Speaker 4>But they're in a real weird position because I don't

0:31:54.850 --> 0:31:57.430
<v Speaker 4>think the Giants are competing for anything real this year.

0:31:57.470 --> 0:31:58.130
<v Speaker 5>Not a contender.

0:31:58.170 --> 0:31:58.290
<v Speaker 1>No.

0:31:58.590 --> 0:32:00.810
<v Speaker 4>So do you trade a draft pick, even a fifth

0:32:00.870 --> 0:32:02.850
<v Speaker 4>or sixth round draft pick for a player to get

0:32:02.890 --> 0:32:04.030
<v Speaker 4>you to six wins?

0:32:04.410 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, think about the ownership and the team.

0:32:07.140 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 3>It's been a long time for the Giants. I don't

0:32:08.700 --> 0:32:10.860
<v Speaker 3>know if they still want to rebuild and rebuild and rebuild.

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 3>So there will be people in the building who say,

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 3>get me a veteran in here right now.

0:32:14.020 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 5>But to do what? To get to seven wins and

0:32:15.980 --> 0:32:18.100
<v Speaker 5>not make the playoffs and lose a sixth round draft pick?

0:32:18.140 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 5>I don't see it.

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 4>Jameis played awful. If he played serviceable, we probably wouldn't

0:32:21.740 --> 0:32:24.180
<v Speaker 4>have this conversation. And you'd bring in Brandon Allen or

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 4>Jake Allen or Doug Allen or some Allen that played

0:32:26.830 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 4>pro football.

0:32:28.010 --> 0:32:29.870
<v Speaker 3>Not only that, too. They had injuries at left tackle.

0:32:29.910 --> 0:32:32.310
<v Speaker 3>They had Brian Burns got hurt. It feels like injuries

0:32:32.350 --> 0:32:33.630
<v Speaker 3>are going to be one of the storylines.

0:32:33.930 --> 0:32:35.930
<v Speaker 4>The GM will never admit this, but this could be

0:32:35.970 --> 0:32:38.290
<v Speaker 4>looked at as like a gap year where you say, hey,

0:32:38.610 --> 0:32:40.530
<v Speaker 4>this is unintentional. It didn't mean for it to happen,

0:32:40.890 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 4>but we'll let it play out. We've got some good players.

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:46.100
<v Speaker 4>Keep Malik Nabors healthy. Get some other players. But if

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.410
<v Speaker 4>you get a top five draft pick, You're not committed

0:32:48.450 --> 0:32:50.590
<v Speaker 4>to Jackson Dart financially. He got all his money up front.

0:32:50.790 --> 0:32:52.790
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a gap year, but it's been a gap decade.

0:32:52.830 --> 0:32:54.630
<v Speaker 3>I think people are tired of the gap in New York.

0:32:54.650 --> 0:32:57.209
<v Speaker 4>But with Harbaugh, it's his first year. No one's going

0:32:57.230 --> 0:32:58.790
<v Speaker 4>to be putting a coach on a hot seat, especially

0:32:58.830 --> 0:33:01.670
<v Speaker 4>not a Harbaugh. So it's one of those unintentional things.

0:33:01.710 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 4>I go back to Manning with the Colts. He has

0:33:03.780 --> 0:33:05.980
<v Speaker 4>that neck injury. And if he didn't, and he just

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:08.710
<v Speaker 4>played good football. they would have never taken Andrew Luck.

0:33:08.950 --> 0:33:10.270
<v Speaker 4>They would have never been in a position to take

0:33:10.310 --> 0:33:12.110
<v Speaker 4>Andrew Luck. And Andrew Luck, even though it didn't work

0:33:12.230 --> 0:33:14.350
<v Speaker 4>out 15 years, it did for seven years.

0:33:14.410 --> 0:33:16.870
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, that wasn't bad. I mean, listen, the Giants

0:33:16.910 --> 0:33:18.690
<v Speaker 3>haven't had much luck at all, and they definitely have

0:33:18.730 --> 0:33:20.460
<v Speaker 3>not had it this year. All right, coming up next,

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 3>Dan Patrick weighs in on the Graham-Benziger-Mike McDonald-Sean Payton triumvirate.

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:27.220
<v Speaker 3>We'll dive into it as well. Not so fast.

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, well, you know, he was older, and he was

0:33:31.140 --> 0:33:32.770
<v Speaker 8>coming off of two years or a year and a

0:33:32.810 --> 0:33:36.410
<v Speaker 8>half in prison, so... But, I mean, honestly, in our prime,

0:33:36.470 --> 0:33:38.690
<v Speaker 8>I mean, you can ask Vic. I think I still

0:33:38.710 --> 0:33:40.290
<v Speaker 8>got him in my prime, too. But, yeah, I was

0:33:40.330 --> 0:33:41.900
<v Speaker 8>faster when he came along and played with us.

0:33:43.340 --> 0:33:45.820
<v Speaker 4>Back on Not So Fast, Paps and Perloff here, NBC

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:48.700
<v Speaker 4>Sports Now and Peacock. That was DeSean Jackson, the great

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 4>wide receiver for your Eagles. Also, he's the head coach

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 4>of Delaware State Football, which.

0:33:53.380 --> 0:33:54.180
<v Speaker 5>Are having a nice season.

0:33:54.620 --> 0:33:56.500
<v Speaker 3>You know, he's one of the few NFL players who's

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 3>ever yelled at me, and you'll never guess why. Really? Yes,

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:01.500
<v Speaker 3>I was doing an Eagles preview for Sports Illustrated, and

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:03.700
<v Speaker 3>I went to camp and asked him about when he

0:34:03.740 --> 0:34:06.219
<v Speaker 3>fumbled at the one-yard line. I said, what did you

0:34:06.270 --> 0:34:07.870
<v Speaker 3>learn from that? He goes, what did I learn from that?

0:34:07.900 --> 0:34:09.489
<v Speaker 3>I fumbled at the one-yard line. What do you think

0:34:09.530 --> 0:34:11.450
<v Speaker 3>I learned from that? And he did not like it.

0:34:11.630 --> 0:34:12.880
<v Speaker 5>That is a gutsy question for him.

0:34:12.950 --> 0:34:15.029
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I almost want to talk to him. Maybe go

0:34:15.050 --> 0:34:17.470
<v Speaker 3>down to Delaware State on a fall afternoon. It's lovely

0:34:17.489 --> 0:34:21.170
<v Speaker 3>down there. And say, hey, 20 years later, did you

0:34:21.210 --> 0:34:23.529
<v Speaker 3>learn anything? But he was great on the show. I

0:34:24.210 --> 0:34:25.870
<v Speaker 3>got to tell you, he's one of the fastest NFL

0:34:25.890 --> 0:34:26.650
<v Speaker 3>players I've ever seen.

0:34:26.850 --> 0:34:29.390
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think if you said fastest ever, Tyreek Hill's

0:34:29.430 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 4>in the mix, Mike Vick's in the mix.

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Xavier Worthy now with the Chiefs.

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 4>Willie Galt, if you go back a generation, I had

0:34:35.300 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 4>to work that in.

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 3>85 Bears, Willie Galt?

0:34:38.620 --> 0:34:38.980
<v Speaker 5>Shocking.

0:34:39.460 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 4>The other thing he talked about that he could have

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.090
<v Speaker 4>played both college and pro baseball.

0:34:44.050 --> 0:34:46.570
<v Speaker 5>Who is the other guy? We obviously know Bo Jackson.

0:34:46.690 --> 0:34:47.510
<v Speaker 5>We know Deion Sanders.

0:34:47.910 --> 0:34:49.750
<v Speaker 4>Who's the guy who played one sport you wish you

0:34:49.770 --> 0:34:51.390
<v Speaker 4>could have saw play more of another sport?

0:34:51.410 --> 0:34:52.070
<v Speaker 5>You go first.

0:34:52.290 --> 0:34:54.470
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to do a little bit of fantasy. What

0:34:54.510 --> 0:34:57.540
<v Speaker 3>if LeBron James could have played football? He talks about

0:34:57.560 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 3>it enough. He was at the Rams game the other night.

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 3>Let's get LeBron on the football field.

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:02.660
<v Speaker 4>I got to tell you, YouTube does not have a

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:04.790
<v Speaker 4>lot of LeBron wide receiver clips from when he was

0:35:04.830 --> 0:35:06.370
<v Speaker 4>a sophomore or junior because I think he gave it

0:35:06.430 --> 0:35:07.150
<v Speaker 4>up too fast.

0:35:07.690 --> 0:35:10.090
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, at 6'9, you're a pretty big target

0:35:10.130 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 3>out there. There are not a lot of 6'9 tight ends.

0:35:12.420 --> 0:35:13.980
<v Speaker 5>I would have liked to have seen more Allen Iverson

0:35:14.020 --> 0:35:14.799
<v Speaker 5>as a football player.

0:35:14.900 --> 0:35:15.100
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:35:15.260 --> 0:35:16.260
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he went to Georgetown.

0:35:16.340 --> 0:35:19.770
<v Speaker 4>If somehow Georgetown started their football team, imagine D3 football

0:35:19.790 --> 0:35:21.150
<v Speaker 4>with Allen Iverson at Georgetown.

0:35:21.690 --> 0:35:22.790
<v Speaker 5>I would have watched some Allen Iverson.

0:35:22.910 --> 0:35:25.470
<v Speaker 3>You know, former NFL head coach Jim Schwartz played football

0:35:25.489 --> 0:35:28.460
<v Speaker 3>at Georgetown. I think Allen Iverson could have played at UVA.

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:31.799
<v Speaker 3>He was a superstar in football. Even Vic and those

0:35:31.860 --> 0:35:33.739
<v Speaker 3>guys talk about him like he was as good as

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 3>they were.

0:35:34.020 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 4>You know, he was on the Dan Patrick show, Allen Iverson,

0:35:35.940 --> 0:35:37.739
<v Speaker 4>years ago. And Dan asked him how close he was

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:40.700
<v Speaker 4>to playing two sports. He said before the incident happened

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.130
<v Speaker 4>at the bowling alley, he was in discussions with a

0:35:43.190 --> 0:35:45.899
<v Speaker 4>couple different colleges about playing both. And because they wanted

0:35:45.940 --> 0:35:47.930
<v Speaker 4>him so bad as a basketball player, they were going

0:35:47.950 --> 0:35:49.049
<v Speaker 4>to wink at the football career.

0:35:49.230 --> 0:35:51.689
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he is such an awesome athlete. He's skinny, though,

0:35:51.770 --> 0:35:53.450
<v Speaker 3>so he would have to put on a few pounds. Yes.

0:35:54.370 --> 0:35:56.870
<v Speaker 3>All right. What else we got from the show today?

0:35:56.910 --> 0:35:59.859
<v Speaker 3>DP talked about the Graham Benziger situation. If you haven't

0:35:59.900 --> 0:36:02.320
<v Speaker 3>heard about this, it's kind of a wild situation. Seahawks

0:36:02.340 --> 0:36:05.300
<v Speaker 3>coach Mike McDonald was on his show and said way

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:08.180
<v Speaker 3>too much. He did not apparently know that this was

0:36:08.219 --> 0:36:11.390
<v Speaker 3>going to air. Earlier today, Dan gave his thoughts on

0:36:11.430 --> 0:36:11.930
<v Speaker 3>what happened.

0:36:13.980 --> 0:36:17.380
<v Speaker 1>If this is the way Graham Benzinger does his interviews

0:36:18.340 --> 0:36:21.310
<v Speaker 1>and he lets the subject know, then this is on

0:36:21.350 --> 0:36:25.230
<v Speaker 1>Mike McDonald. And if that's the case, you don't have

0:36:25.250 --> 0:36:28.129
<v Speaker 1>to apologize. You can say, look, I'm sorry you didn't

0:36:28.230 --> 0:36:32.450
<v Speaker 1>remember what we told you. But I don't think that

0:36:32.550 --> 0:36:35.980
<v Speaker 1>clip should have aired because he clearly was just talking

0:36:36.100 --> 0:36:36.460
<v Speaker 1>to you.

0:36:37.300 --> 0:36:38.140
<v Speaker 5>And I don't know.

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see the rest of the interview. I only

0:36:40.820 --> 0:36:43.940
<v Speaker 1>saw that clip. And I would have a problem with that.

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:46.460
<v Speaker 1>If we aired that, I would have had a problem

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:48.359
<v Speaker 1>with our folks here.

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:50.700
<v Speaker 5>So there's a lot of elements of this story. It's

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 5>day two of this story.

0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 4>So Mike McDonald, who was on with Graham Bensinger, he

0:36:55.100 --> 0:36:57.300
<v Speaker 4>talks about, and it felt like it was before the interview.

0:36:57.320 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 4>They admitted the part was before the interview. And they

0:37:00.340 --> 0:37:03.220
<v Speaker 4>start chopping it up. But there's guys moving lights around.

0:37:03.820 --> 0:37:06.430
<v Speaker 4>It's not clear. My only thing I want to know is,

0:37:06.469 --> 0:37:08.870
<v Speaker 4>was Mike McDonald told, before he walked out to the studio,

0:37:09.570 --> 0:37:11.890
<v Speaker 4>Everything's in play, coach. Anything we talk about here could

0:37:11.910 --> 0:37:13.870
<v Speaker 4>be used on the show. If he was, then it's

0:37:13.910 --> 0:37:16.370
<v Speaker 4>on Coach McDonald for not being ready or prepared. If

0:37:16.410 --> 0:37:19.290
<v Speaker 4>he wasn't, which I would like to know, then it's

0:37:19.390 --> 0:37:21.340
<v Speaker 4>on the producers of the show.

0:37:21.660 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 3>Now, you've been in this situation many times with Dan

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:26.299
<v Speaker 3>Patrick's show. Big-time guests coming out. What do you tell

0:37:26.340 --> 0:37:27.620
<v Speaker 3>them before the interview starts?

0:37:27.660 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 4>We always tell them, when you walk in the studio,

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:31.959
<v Speaker 4>expect your mic to be hot and expect the camera

0:37:31.980 --> 0:37:34.500
<v Speaker 4>to be on. We give them specific instructions if they

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:36.660
<v Speaker 4>come out and there's a live look-in. If you watch

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 4>the Dan Patrick show, they do commercial look-ins. We say, hey,

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:42.069
<v Speaker 4>We're coming back in about 10 seconds, just so you know.

0:37:42.390 --> 0:37:44.750
<v Speaker 4>Have your mic on, and you're on air. And we

0:37:44.790 --> 0:37:47.370
<v Speaker 4>give them explicit notes or heads up before.

0:37:47.390 --> 0:37:47.989
<v Speaker 5>During, and after.

0:37:48.230 --> 0:37:51.590
<v Speaker 3>So Graham Benzinger gets a lot of big-time interviews. A-list guys.

0:37:51.610 --> 0:37:53.370
<v Speaker 3>Do you think anyone's going to be nervous about going

0:37:53.410 --> 0:37:55.850
<v Speaker 3>on a show after he's sort of put this out there? Now,

0:37:55.870 --> 0:37:57.729
<v Speaker 3>he said he didn't really mean to put it out there,

0:37:58.010 --> 0:38:00.089
<v Speaker 3>and he regretted the decision. But I wonder if there's

0:38:00.130 --> 0:38:00.830
<v Speaker 3>some damage here.

0:38:01.170 --> 0:38:03.330
<v Speaker 4>I do wonder that, and I also wonder if it

0:38:03.390 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 4>wasn't such a good, saucy story, would they have put

0:38:05.890 --> 0:38:08.370
<v Speaker 4>it out there? If they were just chit-chatting about, hey,

0:38:08.390 --> 0:38:11.049
<v Speaker 4>where's your kid going, private school, public school, I don't

0:38:11.070 --> 0:38:13.089
<v Speaker 4>know if they'd post that clip. They posted the clip

0:38:13.110 --> 0:38:16.390
<v Speaker 4>of him talking about Sean Payton going after them for cheating.

0:38:16.969 --> 0:38:19.469
<v Speaker 3>The funny thing, too, is what a stupid scandal. This

0:38:19.510 --> 0:38:22.610
<v Speaker 3>was the opposite of Spygate because one team looked at

0:38:22.670 --> 0:38:25.310
<v Speaker 3>Twitter for the plays. I think that's why everybody was like,

0:38:25.330 --> 0:38:27.549
<v Speaker 3>who cares? I don't know why Sean Payton was so mad.

0:38:27.590 --> 0:38:29.240
<v Speaker 5>But you know how it is with NFL. It would

0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:31.380
<v Speaker 5>happen on a Wednesday. It's in between games.

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:33.219
<v Speaker 4>It didn't happen on a Monday. It didn't happen on

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 4>a Friday. It was a perfect Wednesday pro football story.

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:38.220
<v Speaker 3>Well, and I guess Sean Payton, this is a sensitive

0:38:38.260 --> 0:38:40.259
<v Speaker 3>topic for him. I think he was embarrassed by the

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:43.979
<v Speaker 3>whole thing. You know what, Mike McDonald, he's still our guy.

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:44.620
<v Speaker 3>I love that guy.

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:46.540
<v Speaker 5>Oh, you win the Super Bowl, you could do no wrong.

0:38:46.580 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 5>This is a blip. This is not a big deal.

0:38:48.060 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 4>All right, the other clip we want to play, this

0:38:49.620 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 4>is our buddy Mike Florio. On his show yesterday on

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:54.859
<v Speaker 4>Not So Fast, comes up before this, Mike Florio's show

0:38:54.930 --> 0:38:57.790
<v Speaker 4>with Chris Sims. He talked about the game this weekend,

0:38:57.890 --> 0:39:00.430
<v Speaker 4>and you guys know this game. It's Cowboys-Ravens down in Brazil.

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:03.259
<v Speaker 4>And there's been issues with the field. The NFL is

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:05.100
<v Speaker 4>downplaying it. Florida doesn't see it that way.

0:39:07.180 --> 0:39:10.620
<v Speaker 9>Nothing is getting in the way with the obsession to

0:39:10.680 --> 0:39:14.900
<v Speaker 9>globalize the sport. And bad field, if we have to

0:39:14.940 --> 0:39:16.820
<v Speaker 9>deal with a bad field for three hours, that's fine.

0:39:17.450 --> 0:39:18.240
<v Speaker 5>Players are going to get injured.

0:39:18.260 --> 0:39:18.509
<v Speaker 3>That's fine.

0:39:18.530 --> 0:39:20.430
<v Speaker 9>They're going to get injured anywhere. They're going to get,

0:39:20.850 --> 0:39:23.489
<v Speaker 9>they always say they'll play anywhere. Well, all right, here

0:39:23.530 --> 0:39:23.810
<v Speaker 9>we go.

0:39:24.230 --> 0:39:25.110
<v Speaker 5>Play on this.

0:39:25.790 --> 0:39:29.350
<v Speaker 9>I feel like at this stage of the NFL's international experiment,

0:39:29.390 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 9>they're not letting, anything get in the way and they're

0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:34.959
<v Speaker 9>not going to pull the plug no matter how bad

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:36.980
<v Speaker 9>that field may be. They are going to make chicken

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:39.140
<v Speaker 9>salad out of that field and they're going to get

0:39:39.180 --> 0:39:40.140
<v Speaker 9>it ready for Sunday.

0:39:40.910 --> 0:39:43.129
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think Florio nailed this one. I don't think

0:39:43.170 --> 0:39:45.390
<v Speaker 4>the NFL really cares. Clearly, they're going to try to

0:39:45.410 --> 0:39:47.299
<v Speaker 4>get the field as ready as they can. But they're

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:49.710
<v Speaker 4>not canceling the game. They're not bringing everybody back home.

0:39:49.750 --> 0:39:52.190
<v Speaker 4>This is a national event in that country that's been

0:39:52.230 --> 0:39:54.770
<v Speaker 4>building for months and actually years they've known about this.

0:39:55.370 --> 0:39:58.240
<v Speaker 4>I look at the NFL, you know, if there's a lawsuit,

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:00.860
<v Speaker 4>there's a concussion lawsuit. There's not a bad field lawsuit.

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:02.540
<v Speaker 4>They're all going to make the fields the best they can,

0:40:02.580 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 4>but they're not going to overspend on it.

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:07.430
<v Speaker 3>Well, they could go grass- The same stadiums played the

0:40:07.469 --> 0:40:09.830
<v Speaker 3>World Cup on grass, and the NFL, these are the

0:40:09.850 --> 0:40:11.590
<v Speaker 3>multi-use they want. They're like, well, we're not going to

0:40:11.610 --> 0:40:14.130
<v Speaker 3>pay for that for the NFL season. So there's obviously

0:40:14.170 --> 0:40:17.790
<v Speaker 3>a lot of room for improvement here. Also, the Brazil game,

0:40:17.850 --> 0:40:19.529
<v Speaker 3>the Eagles went to Brazil a couple years ago and

0:40:19.550 --> 0:40:21.870
<v Speaker 3>won the Super Bowl. So you can't say it's a

0:40:21.910 --> 0:40:23.260
<v Speaker 3>total competitive disadvantage.

0:40:23.550 --> 0:40:24.759
<v Speaker 5>Oh, so you're saying it's correlation.

0:40:25.020 --> 0:40:26.859
<v Speaker 4>Look at the field there. There's some soccer clips. There's

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:29.980
<v Speaker 4>stuff all over the place. It's all chopped up. It's

0:40:30.020 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 4>going to be interesting to see when the game is

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 4>on TV, the people who don't know about this field issue,

0:40:34.670 --> 0:40:37.090
<v Speaker 4>Their reaction on social media in real time, because if

0:40:37.110 --> 0:40:38.350
<v Speaker 4>it's a complete quagmire.

0:40:38.390 --> 0:40:40.370
<v Speaker 5>Good word, by the way, the reaction is going to

0:40:40.390 --> 0:40:40.810
<v Speaker 5>be out of hand.

0:40:40.930 --> 0:40:42.270
<v Speaker 3>Wouldn't it be better if I told you it was

0:40:42.290 --> 0:40:43.930
<v Speaker 3>a good word instead of you saying your own word

0:40:43.969 --> 0:40:44.430
<v Speaker 3>was a good word?

0:40:44.489 --> 0:40:45.950
<v Speaker 5>I was surprised that I pulled it off.

0:40:45.969 --> 0:40:47.710
<v Speaker 4>All right, it's time for the rando here on Not

0:40:47.730 --> 0:40:50.569
<v Speaker 4>So Fast. Something we saw that surprised us, we didn't like,

0:40:50.590 --> 0:40:53.840
<v Speaker 4>we did like. This one is out of nowhere. College basketball, Pearl.

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:58.020
<v Speaker 4>Your Mississippi Valley State Hoops team. I don't know where

0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:00.839
<v Speaker 4>we got this from. I thought it was AI. Your

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:02.379
<v Speaker 4>Delta Devils, the 2026-27 schedule.

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:04.880
<v Speaker 3>They're on the road early.

0:41:05.219 --> 0:41:08.310
<v Speaker 5>Oklahoma, Washington, Oregon, Oregon State, Arkansas.

0:41:08.969 --> 0:41:12.310
<v Speaker 4>Now, what's your theory here for the SWAC Delta Devils?

0:41:12.550 --> 0:41:14.930
<v Speaker 3>I have no theory because I do see at Michigan

0:41:15.290 --> 0:41:18.450
<v Speaker 3>and at UConn, as I recall, those were the two

0:41:18.550 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 3>best teams in the tournament last year.

0:41:20.540 --> 0:41:23.140
<v Speaker 4>Well, they did mix in North Texas. That's their win

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.100
<v Speaker 4>in that group, and I'm not making fun of North Texas.

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:28.739
<v Speaker 4>But they're at UConn, the Mississippi State Valley basketball team.

0:41:28.980 --> 0:41:31.140
<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is like playing with, you know how

0:41:31.160 --> 0:41:33.379
<v Speaker 3>the batters have donuts on their bat before they get

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:35.739
<v Speaker 3>it onto the plate? They are going to be so

0:41:35.820 --> 0:41:38.840
<v Speaker 3>battle-tested by the time they get Bethune-Cookman. They're going to

0:41:38.860 --> 0:41:40.359
<v Speaker 3>be really good at SWAC.

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:42.939
<v Speaker 4>So you're saying Alabama A &amp; M and Alabama State

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 4>should be nervous about what's coming.

0:41:44.540 --> 0:41:47.339
<v Speaker 3>Oh, absolutely. Now, is that the college that Jerry Rice

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 3>went to? I always get confused about his alma mater.

0:41:50.180 --> 0:41:52.370
<v Speaker 5>It sure does. It had been a Mississippi. Try that

0:41:52.450 --> 0:41:54.270
<v Speaker 5>one out for size. Now, here's the thing. Do they

0:41:54.290 --> 0:41:56.250
<v Speaker 5>get paid to do these games, like college football teams?

0:41:56.310 --> 0:41:58.169
<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming. I hope so.

0:41:58.290 --> 0:41:59.450
<v Speaker 5>I hope they're getting paid a lot.

0:41:59.550 --> 0:42:01.510
<v Speaker 3>They might have a lot of NIL money after this.

0:42:01.530 --> 0:42:03.400
<v Speaker 5>Well, keep an eye on this story. This is fantastic.

0:42:03.420 --> 0:42:06.860
<v Speaker 4>All right, coming up next. Oh, constructive criticism and the feel-good.

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:08.859
<v Speaker 4>And superlatives.

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:09.819
<v Speaker 3>Nailed that.

0:42:09.860 --> 0:42:12.319
<v Speaker 5>Superlatives are back. Stick around. Not so fast.

0:42:13.830 --> 0:42:15.930
<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's

0:42:15.969 --> 0:42:18.170
<v Speaker 3>Paul Papps. If you watch the DP show today, there

0:42:18.190 --> 0:42:21.230
<v Speaker 3>was a wonderful surprise. Paul, it's your birthday, and I

0:42:21.270 --> 0:42:22.530
<v Speaker 3>got you a present as well. Wow.

0:42:22.730 --> 0:42:24.190
<v Speaker 5>Everyone's been so nice to me today around here.

0:42:24.210 --> 0:42:27.649
<v Speaker 3>This is Case Keenum playing for Moore. Your Chicago Bears

0:42:27.690 --> 0:42:30.529
<v Speaker 3>quarterback wrote a book co-written by Andrew Perloff. Yeah.

0:42:30.610 --> 0:42:32.930
<v Speaker 5>You just went third person as you gave me a

0:42:32.969 --> 0:42:33.879
<v Speaker 5>book that you co-wrote.

0:42:34.390 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 4>Oh, bonus coverage. It's autographed by you. By you, not

0:42:39.780 --> 0:42:40.300
<v Speaker 4>Case Keenum.

0:42:40.810 --> 0:42:41.110
<v Speaker 5>Great.

0:42:41.489 --> 0:42:43.470
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't afford the one autograph.

0:42:43.489 --> 0:42:44.130
<v Speaker 5>That's awesome.

0:42:44.290 --> 0:42:50.899
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Okay. Let's get to Superloftives week number two. All right. Superloftives,

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:53.980
<v Speaker 3>the best and worst around the NFL. This week we're

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:57.980
<v Speaker 3>going to do the backup quarterback Superloftives. Starting with the

0:42:58.020 --> 0:43:00.759
<v Speaker 3>best backup quarterback. Not only is this guy the best

0:43:00.820 --> 0:43:03.279
<v Speaker 3>backup quarterback so far this year, he might be the

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:05.959
<v Speaker 3>best backup quarterback we've seen in years. Maybe since Case

0:43:06.020 --> 0:43:09.279
<v Speaker 3>Keenum in 2018 with Minnesota. And that, of course, is

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:12.330
<v Speaker 3>Drew Locke. Guess who leads the NFL in passer rating, Paul?

0:43:12.550 --> 0:43:12.969
<v Speaker 5>Drew Locke?

0:43:13.230 --> 0:43:16.950
<v Speaker 3>Drew Locke. He's fourth in QBR as well. Four touchdowns,

0:43:17.030 --> 0:43:20.189
<v Speaker 3>no picks. Has been better than advertised. I think people

0:43:20.230 --> 0:43:22.410
<v Speaker 3>know he's played well. By the numbers, he's been one

0:43:22.450 --> 0:43:24.610
<v Speaker 3>of the top three or four quarterbacks in the NFL.

0:43:24.810 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 3>But he probably hits the bench this week. That's okay.

0:43:27.460 --> 0:43:29.960
<v Speaker 3>I think Seattle knows they have something. So Drew Locke

0:43:30.020 --> 0:43:33.420
<v Speaker 3>at least gets a superlative. Okay, if we're doing best,

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:35.980
<v Speaker 3>we've got to do worse. The worst, there was more

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 3>competition than you might think. If Drew Locke had the

0:43:39.500 --> 0:43:42.060
<v Speaker 3>best passer rating, the worst passer rating was also a backup,

0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:44.080
<v Speaker 3>but it was Jack Strand in Atlanta. Oh, my God.

0:43:44.180 --> 0:43:46.860
<v Speaker 3>He did not get the award. That goes to Jameis Winston.

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 3>Jameis Winston gets his superloftive for worst backup quarterback performance

0:43:51.060 --> 0:43:51.779
<v Speaker 3>so far this season.

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:52.560
<v Speaker 5>He looks confused.

0:43:53.020 --> 0:43:55.260
<v Speaker 3>Jameis should know better. The pick that he threw against

0:43:55.300 --> 0:43:57.969
<v Speaker 3>the Rams that really turned the tide and put the

0:43:58.010 --> 0:44:00.430
<v Speaker 3>Giants out of the game was so bad. Jameis, you

0:44:00.469 --> 0:44:03.810
<v Speaker 3>deserve this sticker because you are really, really bad. You're

0:44:03.830 --> 0:44:06.390
<v Speaker 3>better than that, Jameis. I hope you're better this week. Okay,

0:44:06.810 --> 0:44:09.870
<v Speaker 3>my most confusing backup quarterback, you know who I'm going

0:44:09.910 --> 0:44:14.950
<v Speaker 3>with here, Paul. Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz was both great, bad,

0:44:15.090 --> 0:44:18.989
<v Speaker 3>and in between for Minnesota. They are 2-0. Now, his

0:44:19.070 --> 0:44:22.380
<v Speaker 3>numbers were just about average. He is ranked 24th out

0:44:22.410 --> 0:44:25.470
<v Speaker 3>of 33 according to Pro Football Focus on his performance

0:44:25.489 --> 0:44:27.540
<v Speaker 3>through two weeks. One of them was in the rain.

0:44:27.940 --> 0:44:31.240
<v Speaker 3>So that was tougher. He has two big time throws

0:44:31.710 --> 0:44:35.250
<v Speaker 3>and two turnover worthy throws, but nobody caught those turnover

0:44:35.290 --> 0:44:38.690
<v Speaker 3>worthy throws. So his numbers are OK. I really don't

0:44:38.730 --> 0:44:41.339
<v Speaker 3>know what the Minnesota Vikings have in Carson Wentz or

0:44:41.380 --> 0:44:44.900
<v Speaker 3>Kyler Murray. So he gets my super lofted, most confusing quarterback.

0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:46.340
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I want to go back to Drew Locke.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Drew Locke's career is in this really interesting

0:44:48.980 --> 0:44:51.890
<v Speaker 4>slash weird position. After a couple good games, what if

0:44:51.910 --> 0:44:54.210
<v Speaker 4>he doesn't play again this year? Does he get high-end

0:44:54.270 --> 0:44:56.489
<v Speaker 4>backup money, or does he get a chance to run

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<v Speaker 4>his own squad?

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<v Speaker 3>He definitely gets a chance to start next year. I mean,

0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:03.460
<v Speaker 3>what's the model? Sam Darnold, right in front of him.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he goes one more stop with a McVay or

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<v Speaker 3>a Shanahan. Drew Locke is clearly amongst the top 32.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's get to Thursday Night Football. If the

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<v Speaker 4>Falcons win tonight, the reaction is what?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, we were wrong the first two weeks. All they

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<v Speaker 3>needed was Michael Penix.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, and the Packers would get lit up if they

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<v Speaker 4>lost tonight in any way for any reason.

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:22.359
<v Speaker 3>Packers, they're hurt.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think the local reaction, maybe not the national reaction,

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<v Speaker 4>but the local reaction if they lose to the hapless

0:45:27.370 --> 0:45:29.670
<v Speaker 4>Falcons would be disaster time in Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but Packers fans don't really get mad, so I

0:45:32.210 --> 0:45:34.090
<v Speaker 3>don't know what that means. I'll tell you what, if

0:45:34.110 --> 0:45:36.739
<v Speaker 3>they lose tonight, I'm going to go a little warm here.

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:39.460
<v Speaker 3>They're 1-2. That is a team to watch out for

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<v Speaker 3>in the second half of the season.

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<v Speaker 5>Who did they hold?

0:45:41.750 --> 0:45:44.510
<v Speaker 3>No, Josh Jacobs is coming back. Linemen are coming back.

0:45:44.590 --> 0:45:45.930
<v Speaker 3>They are going to be a dangerous team in the

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<v Speaker 3>second half when they're healthy.

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<v Speaker 4>That is pretty warm. And I think with the Packers,

0:45:48.670 --> 0:45:50.239
<v Speaker 4>if they win, the reaction is going to be light.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what they should be doing. They're not going to

0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:53.799
<v Speaker 4>get a lot of pub for that. It's time for

0:45:53.820 --> 0:45:56.839
<v Speaker 4>constructive criticism here on the Not So Fast Show.

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<v Speaker 5>Here we go, Pearl. Here's what people had to say

0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 5>to us. Maybe about your hair. Maybe about my birthday.

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<v Speaker 5>Who knows? Best road trip song.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>Running down a dream.

0:46:06.020 --> 0:46:08.900
<v Speaker 4>Touch the sky. This must be the place. Talking heads.

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<v Speaker 4>And Eye of the Tiger, No Shocker from Fritzie. Where

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<v Speaker 4>are you going, Pearl?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I want to go with the movie Days of Confused.

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<v Speaker 3>They ended with Low Rider playing as Matthew McConaughey.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait, Slow Ride?

0:46:20.770 --> 0:46:21.290
<v Speaker 3>Slow Ride.

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<v Speaker 5>Slow Ride by Foghead. That's a great call by you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there he goes. I misheard the lyric. I always

0:46:26.110 --> 0:46:26.950
<v Speaker 3>thought it was Low Ride.

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<v Speaker 5>Slow Ride by Foghead.

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<v Speaker 3>Low ride.

0:46:31.780 --> 0:46:34.510
<v Speaker 5>I think it's slow ride, but I'm actually 100% sure.

0:46:34.690 --> 0:46:35.310
<v Speaker 3>I screwed it up.

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<v Speaker 4>We had a few mistakes today. I think I had one, too.

0:46:37.270 --> 0:46:40.390
<v Speaker 4>Did I call Clay Helton of USC Clay Harbor?

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<v Speaker 3>You absolutely did, former NFL.

0:46:41.950 --> 0:46:42.390
<v Speaker 5>Tight end.

0:46:42.610 --> 0:46:44.549
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I called Jared Wayne. I don't even know

0:46:44.610 --> 0:46:46.569
<v Speaker 3>what I called him. He's a wide receiver on the text.

0:46:46.610 --> 0:46:49.169
<v Speaker 3>I called him Jack Wayne. No relation to Reggie Wayne

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<v Speaker 3>or Bruce Wayne.

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<v Speaker 5>We need Tony Reale here.

0:46:51.570 --> 0:46:53.270
<v Speaker 4>We need Reale to stop by to be stat boy

0:46:53.310 --> 0:46:56.910
<v Speaker 4>and call out our mistakes. I think I won this one.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, running down a dream by Tom Petty. is

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<v Speaker 4>a road trip song. Jimmy Waters, birthday boy wins this

0:47:01.900 --> 0:47:04.390
<v Speaker 4>one hands down. Of course, I can't lose today, but

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<v Speaker 4>Tom Petty can't lose.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but running out of dream is, did you have

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<v Speaker 3>to have a song that had some sort of movement

0:47:09.989 --> 0:47:11.710
<v Speaker 3>to it? Because I think you can listen to a

0:47:11.730 --> 0:47:13.890
<v Speaker 3>song and enjoy it, even if it's not about driving.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a sure thing. It's a road trip song about

0:47:15.989 --> 0:47:17.840
<v Speaker 4>road tripping. I couldn't lose there with Tom Petty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I know you love Tom Petty, so that's

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:21.240
<v Speaker 3>your birthday present.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, here we go.

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:23.799
<v Speaker 4>You know, if it can't get any better around here,

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:25.779
<v Speaker 4>we're in a great mood. It's time for the feel good.

0:47:25.820 --> 0:47:27.460
<v Speaker 4>We love the feel good. You're going to love the

0:47:27.500 --> 0:47:27.819
<v Speaker 4>feel good.

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<v Speaker 5>This one's interesting. Check this out, Pearl.

0:47:30.180 --> 0:47:33.060
<v Speaker 4>The feel-good we're going to go out to Evanston, Illinois.

0:47:33.820 --> 0:47:36.770
<v Speaker 4>New stadium for Northwestern. They just waxed Colorado.

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<v Speaker 5>Look at that place.

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<v Speaker 3>Gorge. Why? Is it for Northwestern football?

0:47:44.290 --> 0:47:47.359
<v Speaker 5>It's not that big. It's like 40,000 people. Intimate.

0:47:47.780 --> 0:47:48.050
<v Speaker 8>Friendly.

0:47:48.580 --> 0:47:50.700
<v Speaker 4>What you're looking at there is called the student wall.

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:54.060
<v Speaker 4>It's standing room only for the student section. You can't

0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:54.319
<v Speaker 4>sit there.

0:47:55.180 --> 0:47:57.420
<v Speaker 3>But it's Northwestern football. You probably want to sit. This

0:47:57.500 --> 0:48:00.180
<v Speaker 3>isn't Cameron. You're not watching Duke basketball. What are you

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:01.560
<v Speaker 3>going to stand up for the whole time?

0:48:01.580 --> 0:48:02.509
<v Speaker 5>Oh, Northwestern football.

0:48:02.530 --> 0:48:05.510
<v Speaker 4>They're forcing their students to stand at attention for Northwestern

0:48:05.550 --> 0:48:06.069
<v Speaker 4>football games.

0:48:06.090 --> 0:48:07.029
<v Speaker 5>It is a gutsy move.

0:48:07.450 --> 0:48:09.430
<v Speaker 3>I would not have put any energy into the field.

0:48:09.469 --> 0:48:10.890
<v Speaker 3>I would have put it all in the press box. Honestly,

0:48:10.910 --> 0:48:13.130
<v Speaker 3>you're going to have more famous journalists coming out of

0:48:13.170 --> 0:48:14.550
<v Speaker 3>Northwestern than football players.

0:48:15.150 --> 0:48:17.410
<v Speaker 4>So if they're in the fourth quarter, they're up 41-7

0:48:17.469 --> 0:48:19.719
<v Speaker 4>on Colorado, do you just lay down?

0:48:19.739 --> 0:48:21.319
<v Speaker 5>Do you lean against the bar? What do you do there?

0:48:22.380 --> 0:48:24.560
<v Speaker 3>I think you walk out and go to the local pub.

0:48:24.580 --> 0:48:25.130
<v Speaker 5>You probably do.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, thanks a lot. Tune in tomorrow to the

0:48:27.060 --> 0:48:29.360
<v Speaker 4>Dan Patrick Show. A lot of big guests on DP tomorrow.

0:48:29.380 --> 0:48:31.319
<v Speaker 4>And then right after that, tune in to Not So

0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:33.660
<v Speaker 4>Fast here on NBC Sports Now and Peacock.

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<v Speaker 5>That's it for us. We're done. Enjoy the football tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>Go somebody.