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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. Tell me a little bit about radical Brilliance.

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Speaker 1: Well I like that title. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, George, it's very much up your street, you know.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I've got to tell you there were few

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Speaker 1: there were several times when I was writing this book

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Speaker 1: that I remembered um conversations. I've happy to you. I

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Speaker 1: think I've been on your show. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 1: this is the third or fourth time. I think it's. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I think it's going on for yeah, and so in

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Speaker 1: a way, you know, this book is about This book

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Speaker 1: is about a certain way of being in the world,

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Speaker 1: which I think you're a good example of, which is

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Speaker 1: to live at the edge, you know, to live at

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Speaker 1: the edge of human evolution, to be exploring our future

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Speaker 1: rather than caught up in our past, to be exploring

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Speaker 1: what we are evolving into. And the way I got

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Speaker 1: interested in this was really because, you know, in a way,

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Speaker 1: all of us, you and me and everybody listening. You know,

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Speaker 1: all of us we have an interest in making our

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Speaker 1: lives as good as possible. And sometimes that means following desires,

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Speaker 1: sometimes it means trying to alleviate fears. But what we

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Speaker 1: all have in common is we want to find the

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Speaker 1: best life we can, you know. And some people do that.

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Speaker 1: They think they can make a lot of money and

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Speaker 1: that will make everything okay. Some people think they can

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Speaker 1: find their soul mate and that's going to make it

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Speaker 1: all okay. Some people think it's going to be perfect

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Speaker 1: health and longevity. Some people hurt and destroy other people

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Speaker 1: to get to that point. Yeah, that's when it gets

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Speaker 1: pretty twisted, exactly. But you know, I did a little

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Speaker 1: reverse engineering. Instead of instead of looking at maps for

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Speaker 1: sought out people. In fact, I sought out four hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty people that I interviewed for this book. I

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Speaker 1: looked for people who are extraordinarily fulfilled, people who have

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Speaker 1: lots of energy way into their eighties, who live in

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Speaker 1: to think about it very much, where money flows easily,

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Speaker 1: where relationships are easy and fun. And I looked to

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Speaker 1: see there are people like that in the world, There

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Speaker 1: of magical state of fulfillment. And I asked myself, what

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Speaker 1: is it that these people have in common? And that

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Speaker 1: was what gave rise to this book, Radical Brilliant. It's

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Speaker 1: the answer to that question, what is the magic key

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Speaker 1: that makes life wonderful, that makes life full of energy

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Speaker 1: and joy and and and meaning. You had the forward

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Speaker 1: written by a Los Angeles visionary as I'll call him

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Speaker 1: Akut Blackson, and he is such a powerful person against negativity,

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Speaker 1: more so than just about anybody I've come across. Tell me,

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Speaker 1: how did you get to know him or how did

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Speaker 1: show black He may have been a long time, right,

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Speaker 1: He's a terrific guy, really terrific guy. Well, I know

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Speaker 1: on a lot um Lynn Twist. So these are people

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Speaker 1: But I invited him to write the forward because he

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Speaker 1: so perfectly is an example are the rannically brilliant person

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Speaker 1: wrote it very beautiful. What is it are you about

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Speaker 1: exactly exactly. The brilliant I mean, Steve jobs is a

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Speaker 1: book Radical Brilliance? Well, actually Cook managed to say it

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