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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of My Heart Breeding. Hello, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They called

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Speaker 1: me Ben, and we're joined as always with our super

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Speaker 1: producer Alexis code named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you

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Speaker 1: are you. You are here, and that makes this the

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Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know. If you are

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Speaker 1: watching this on YouTube, you may notice that Scully is

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Speaker 1: moving a little bit closer to the camera on my end.

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Speaker 1: Got some we got some rearrangements going on. I'm just

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Speaker 1: aware of her slowly encroaching presence. So don't feel like

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Speaker 1: this is a zoom horror movie formats where where sneaks

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Speaker 1: we started rolling a long time ago. We started rolling,

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Speaker 1: and you had your hand around Scully and Scully had

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Speaker 1: her hand around you. Just we We opened the show

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Speaker 1: like that so many times, but this one usually cheezly.

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Speaker 1: We were doing a show. Oh we're rolling our old

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Speaker 1: bloopers reel. I remember you put that in there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're I think I'm gonna be making some more videos

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Speaker 1: we get closer and closer to one of the favorite

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Speaker 1: seasons of this show, Halloween. Remember that time I asked

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Speaker 1: said that Agent Scully should eat a sandwich and somebody

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Speaker 1: yelled at me for fat shaming women. Yeah, I vaguely

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Speaker 1: remember that, but I think in general, because okay, if

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Speaker 1: so dumb. Yeah, I think everybody should eat a sandwich,

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Speaker 1: just in general. But that aside, if you were a

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Speaker 1: long time conspiracy realist. We are welcoming back to the show,

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Speaker 1: and you know what happens this time of the week.

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Speaker 1: It is the top of the week. It is Monday,

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Speaker 1: which means it is time for strange News. We're going

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Speaker 1: further into governmental absurdity. We're going further into the lives

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Speaker 1: and crimes of the incredibly cartoonishly offensively wealthy and powerful,

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Speaker 1: and we're going forward to the future in a way

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Speaker 1: that I think is frankly, beat me here, doc in terrifying. Also,

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Speaker 1: things we talked about in our last Strange news. We're

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Speaker 1: learning more about the coup and Getty, we're learning more

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Speaker 1: about so many, so many stories that seem here and

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Speaker 1: gone as far as the Western news cycle is concerned.

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Speaker 1: The the FBI released a highly redacted one document about Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: yet again, it appears they mistakenly used the black highlighters

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Speaker 1: that remain. Shout out to the Onion for that age

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Speaker 1: how weird is that? I suggest maybe we travel to

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Speaker 1: this in your personal lives, but you've probably seen this

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Speaker 1: scene in countless films and countless television shows where someone says,

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Speaker 1: know that the giant feet or whatever um or in

428
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Speaker 1: something out of Game of Thrones. Like, it's very impressive.

429
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: It is beautifully designed. It's made of bronze, and it

430
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: looks kind of like an awesome like fighting game character,

431
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: something from a graphic novel. Like it's got these flowing

432
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: uh kind of robes and a huge beard and it's

433
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: carrying I believe in America would be there would be

434
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: something that would be called a glave, like a like

435
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: a giant pole with a blade on the end of it.

436
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: I believe there's a there's an official uh Chinese name

437
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: for equivalent for this type of weapon. But um, I

438
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: don't know, what do you guys think Paying twenty four

439
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: million dollars for a twenty six million dollar statue to

440
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: be moved five miles away. Well, they're still technically saving money.

441
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: I mean, for comparison, for the listeners based in the US,

442
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: this is larger than this statue of Liberty. This is

443
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: a lot like New York State saying we're going to

444
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: move this statue of Liberty to a different island five

445
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: miles away. Like it's it's expensive, but you know, what,

446
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: what are they to do if they so if they

447
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: just built a second statue five miles away and it

448
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: was identical, Uh, then they would only they would only

449
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: be spending two million extra. You know, I guess for

450
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: the sake of history. It's it's a good thing that

451
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: they are at least saving it, even if they're moving it.

452
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: You know, they're not just tearing it down, which also

453
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: would probably be pretty expensive to do safely, I imagine,

454
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't you say? I agree, especially like Guandao. That's the

455
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: weapon I believe is how you say that it's like

456
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 1: a polarm type of weapon and it uh, that would

457
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: be really dangerous then trying to move that thing. I mean,

458
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: it's a weapon that's not big. Oh yeah, it's it's

459
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: it would take a lot of people to wield it

460
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: in a fight. But then uh, This is an interesting

461
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: story because this has got to be a big deal

462
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: to people who live in the area and do think

463
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: it's Um. I do think it's an eyesore. But it's

464
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: also strange because I wonder if there is any sort

465
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: of domestic controversy around it, you know, like the controversy

466
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: around statues glory by UH members of the Confederate Army

467
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: during the U. S. Civil War, like those statues being

468
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: taken down, or known racist statues being taken down. Does

469
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: this ancient war god have any kind of troublesome political implication?

470
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: We know the Chinese government is very sensitive to stuff

471
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: like that. So no, not not that I've not that

472
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: I've read. Like I said, I mean, he is revered

473
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: kind of across the country by folks with a military background,

474
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: are people that are in the police force, and businessmen,

475
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: the idea that he's the god of prosperity. UM. There

476
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: is a statement from UH, the General Commission for Discipline,

477
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: Inspection and State Supervision. UM. That's a that's a doozy,

478
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: saying that the lessons learned from this whole thing have

479
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: been profound UM. And it says the giant guang Gong

480
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: statue in Jin Zoo City, Jinshu City rather Hubei Province UH,

481
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: which was criticized by the Ministry of Housing and Urban

482
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: Rural Development, began to be demolished and moved recently. It

483
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: violate it's the relevant provisions of the Ching Shoe Historic

484
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,959
Speaker 1: and Cultural City Protection Plan. It is unauthorized for planning

485
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: and an illegal construction um which is interesting because again

486
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: it was it was allowed to be built. I mean,

487
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: you can gotta you gotta. I mean, especially in a

488
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: country like that. I'm sure you gotta have oversight for

489
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: something that massive. Well, that's also true, Ben, that's also

490
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: Shundy pocketed some cash. But the only official thing I

491
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: could find as a government complaint was from the Ministry

492
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: of Housing and Urban Rural Development, reported by South China Post.

493
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: They said this quote ruined the character and culture of

494
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: shin Sho as historic city, which is weird. I I

495
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: don't know, there's so many things that you could say

496
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: ruined the character and culture of places in historic city.

497
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: But if the if the people who live there genuinely

498
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: don't want it there, then more power to them. It's

499
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: just it feels it feels odd because this seems like

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00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: it would be it's in the Guinness Work of World Records.

501
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: It seems like it would be great for tourism, right, Like,

502
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: it's awesome. You look at here. Here's my question. I

503
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: mean five miles I'm looking at the region or like

504
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: an image. It's like a very large, you know, kind

505
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: of like panoramic image of the area. And I mean

506
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: it's five miles really you can still be able to

507
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: see it, you know, it's that tall, you know, I

508
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: mean in a flat area. I mean you can see

509
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: the Statue of Liberty from five miles away. You know,

510
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: it'll be smaller, I guess, but this thing is huge.

511
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: And they've already started, right, They've already started taking this

512
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: apart piece by piece, starting with the head. And it's

513
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: very similar to this the way the Statue of Liberty

514
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: is structured, Ben, because I know, if we've we've seen

515
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: images of the construction of the Statue of Liberty and

516
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,239
Speaker 1: it's supported on the inside by these like armatures, are

517
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: these almost like you know struts that the like hold

518
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: it up from the inside and the you know. So

519
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean you think a bronze sculpture, and I guess

520
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: I think of it typically as being constructed from one

521
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: piece and like you know, hewn in some way, but

522
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: that's not what this is. This is like more modular.

523
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's being disassembled, starting with the head and

524
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: you can see images of it now with the kind

525
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: of struts, the interior struts exposed. UM. Not quite sure

526
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: exactly what the timeline is on getting it done, but

527
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: it is going to cost just a couple of million

528
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 1: American dollars um less than what it costs to build. Uh.

529
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure who this is for, limited to

530
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: two handful of sources on this one, but you're right,

531
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: then there's gotta be something going on underneath the underneath

532
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: the bronze here. Uh. China Central TV says that it

533
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: was illegally built, as you pointed out right, they did

534
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: that loophole and they're like the whole little building. Coo,

535
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: cook cook. Uh you think somebody got fired behind this one? Man?

536
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: I think I think probably. But if they made enough

537
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: money to retire, I doubt they care about being fired.

538
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: They just have to make sure an anti corruption investigation

539
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: doesn't get them. An anti corruption investigations in this case

540
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: are usually like one group of corrupt operators investigating another

541
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: group of corrupt operators. Well short and sweet on this

542
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: one today, y'all, Matt, you've got anything that nothing? Really,

543
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: I just want to see giant, hundreds of feet tall

544
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: statues of modern war heroes from modern era, so like

545
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: somebody with just just I want to see the weapons.

546
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: I want to see, like comic book style weapons but

547
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: just made real into giant fifty feet versions, just like

548
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: Pepper them throughout the landscape, all over the planet. Let's

549
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: just see those. Apparently there is a game where this

550
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: this war god appears. Is it the romance of the

551
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: Kingdom or romance of the what is it called? It's

552
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: called hate Hades. It's unsteam I guess, oh cool, um,

553
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: but that's I may be incorrect here. Um anyway that

554
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: has that has nothing to do with this, but I do.

555
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: I I love the idea of giant statues. I look

556
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: at there. There's some magnificent ones that put uh some

557
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: US statuary to shame. And they're often you know, religious

558
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: figures totally like that one and is it real Dejioneiro? Yes,

559
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: Christ through demer that one's beautiful. It's funny though, Um,

560
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 1: you know how there's been this like spate of really

561
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: embarrassingly bad bronze sculptures of people in the last like

562
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: maybe twenty years or so. Like there was one of

563
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: Lucille Ball that's just like absolutely hideous, doesn't look like

564
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: her at all. There's one of Bravehearts William Wallace that

565
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: was actually made to look like mel Gibson from the

566
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: movie Braveheart, weirdly out of proportion. Um, strange looking teeth,

567
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: you know, head way too big for the torso. There's

568
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: even one of James Brown in my hometown of Augusta

569
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: that's a little odd looking. Um, it's just funn how

570
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: like the art of sculpture is maybe something best left

571
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: to uh, to the antiquities in some ways. You guys,

572
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: if you're interested in more Guan, you check out. There's

573
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: another city in China called cheng Ping Village near yun

574
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: Cheng City, and uh, it's another giant statue of him.

575
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: He's still he's got the same weapon, and this time

576
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: he's just kind of standing more up straight with his

577
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: weapon down at his side. But it's massive and it

578
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: looks over the like a valley essentially, and it's on

579
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: the top of a hill or mountain. And when you

580
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: look up as a person just in that city, there's

581
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: this towering figure of the same deified guy and the uh,

582
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: the largest statue in the world, like absolute largest is

583
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: also in China. It's the Spring Temple Buddha. It is

584
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: topping out at ft by itself and it's on top

585
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 1: of an eighty two ft kind of pedestal lotus throne.

586
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: Interesting story about that. It was made, I believe in

587
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: response to the destruction of historic statues in Afghanistan. But

588
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: maybe we should Can we go? Can we go to

589
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: mainland China and check out these statues before they get

590
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: relocated or torn down? Or yeah, let's do it, nuts,

591
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: let's do it. I'm sure we can just charge to

592
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: the company. No big deal. Um. In the meantime though,

593
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's do some ads to pay for our

594
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: trip to China and we have returned. So confession, guys.

595
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: Based on how things are going in general in the

596
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: world these days, I don't know if I can get

597
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: past customs in China. Um. Maybe that will change in

598
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: the future, but it would be kind of dodgy, um,

599
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: because there are there are a lot of issues that

600
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: are rightly or wrongly portrayed as being very sensitive to

601
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: the government here in the West, at least the way

602
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: they're being reported. So what I might be able to

603
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: do instead if I somehow can't get in legally, is

604
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: to travel there vicariously. All I need you all to do.

605
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: You met, you know, doc, everybody listening to the show

606
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: is put on a very special pair of ray bands

607
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: and travel through the country and go to the spring

608
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: Temple Buddha. Uh and and uh you know, go to

609
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: go to that Scottish estate in the United Kingdom. And

610
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: I can see as though through your eyes, Facebook a

611
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: company has proven time and time again it uh treats

612
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 1: the concept of trust this sort of a raw shacking plot,

613
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. The definition is you see

614
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: what you want. And they have released just just very recently,

615
00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: they're releasing these ray bands in partnership with Exotica. By

616
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 1: the way, that's a conspiracy too. There's one sunglass company

617
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: that owns pretty much all the Yeah, one spectacled company

618
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: to control them all and buying them. It's weird that

619
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 1: we haven't done an episode on it. But honestly, sometimes

620
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: we get in a bubble conspiracy realist and we assume

621
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: that everybody knows stuff like that. But if you go

622
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: to a sunglass hut. You can go to a CBS

623
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: if you have to. You know your Dwayne Read or

624
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: whatever is in your neck of the woods. You go

625
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: anywhere you buy sunglasses. You're indirectly buying them from this

626
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: one company. And now for the lu lu price of

627
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: about to US two, you can get these glasses that

628
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: will do you. Guys, remember Google Glass. We had a

629
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: coworker had one, Jonathan stre I remember they were ugly

630
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: and expensive and I think Jonathan was in a pilot programer.

631
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: He got a pair to like hold kind of I

632
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: don't think they owned them, but it was like he

633
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: was part of like an early adopter kind of you know,

634
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: testing them out kind of thing. But they were way

635
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: too wide. Uh. They just made your head look oddly

636
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: proportioned and just yeah, it was a dead giveaway. And

637
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: I just don't know who was asking for this technology. Yeah,

638
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: this is interesting because if you recall, those glasses did

639
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: look odd because they had the top frame, like the

640
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: top metal frame of typical pair of spectacles, but they

641
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: didn't have lenses. Instead, they had one kind of rectangular

642
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: sliver of glass in the top left or top right

643
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: part of one of the lenses and these things backfired

644
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: a little bit for Google. And Google is a wildly

645
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: experimental companies, so they kind of bake in the idea

646
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: that not everything will workout shout out Google Wave, etcetera, etcetera.

647
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 1: But this the problem with the glasses was that people

648
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: tended to not like the idea of being filmed without

649
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: their consent, you know, and I legally it's a it's

650
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: a sticky thing. But there was another tech enthusiasts may

651
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: recall there was another thing that was like a little

652
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: body camera you could put on your chest that would

653
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: just take a picture randomly at different intervals. And I've

654
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: I've encountered those as well, and they're fun, you know.

655
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: And in the case of Google Glass, maybe eventually they

656
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: could have become a profoundly powerful device. But getting over

657
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: that hurdle of expectations of privacy and you know, expectations

658
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: of aesthetic, I would say, because you guys aren't the

659
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: only ones complaining about how ugly they looked, the design

660
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: was a popular Just those two factors and alone were

661
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: enough to sink it. And so Facebook is going to

662
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: try again. And just like the terminator example I had

663
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: used earlier some weeks ago, these new glasses look closer

664
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: to regular sunglasses. They look like ray bands, unless you

665
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: know what you're looking for in your up close they're

666
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: very much not ray bands. They have audio capabilities, so

667
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: you can listen to a podcast or the radio or

668
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: you know, I guess if you did some rewiring, you

669
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: could listen to the rest of the operatives on the

670
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: assassination run with some Lake City quiet hills. Uh. And

671
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: then they also have these two cameras. This. As soon

672
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: as I read this one of the things that surprised

673
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: me was most of the reporting was handled the way

674
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: you would a report on any other kind of just

675
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: like consumer electronic right, like here's the PS five and

676
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: it has X amount of these things and why amount

677
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: of these things? And those kind of reporting approaches. I

678
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: didn't see a lot about the privacy concerns. Are you

679
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: guys weirded out by this? Like? What would you do

680
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: if I showed up We're hanging out off air and

681
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: I show up and I'm wearing these ray bands and

682
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, guys, these are my Facebook glasses. You

683
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: know it's I mean, it makes me think of I've

684
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: been rewatching the excellent uh Seminal HBO television series The

685
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: Wire finally moved on from the Sopranos guys. Uh, and

686
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: within that, you know, there's a lot of litigation that

687
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: goes into putting a tap on somebody's phone. Um, even

688
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: if there is known criminal activity, it takes a lot

689
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: to convince a judge to to put up to write

690
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: a writ and even then those warrants are only like

691
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: for like thirty days. Then you have to show what

692
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: you got and then get it again. So yeah, I

693
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: mean it's interesting how long it's taken for us to

694
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: get technology good enough where you can just you know,

695
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: prosumer level stuff can like do this and have it

696
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: be convincing and have it be Um. That's an issue, right,

697
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: the fact that they're not awkward looking, and that that

698
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: you can be pretty secretive in recording people. Um. There

699
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: was another there's a film called Sound of Your Voice

700
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: or Sound of My Voice by britt Marling Um that

701
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: was about a journalist that infiltrates the cult. And the

702
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: big ah thing in the movie is that they got

703
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: these glasses that film you and have audio. And it

704
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: was like, even at the time, like something that just

705
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: didn't exist. So yeah, it certainly opens up a lot

706
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: of questions as to how this was being used. And

707
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: even if you do get someone doing something compromising. I mean,

708
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: sure maybe you didn't get it illegally, but if you

709
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: put it on the internet, does it really matter? Right? Right?

710
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: You can't un ring the bell that I'm imagining your

711
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: scenario Ben that you were just talking about, where if

712
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: you showed up with the glasses, how would I feel?

713
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm imagining what would it be like if Facebook itself,

714
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: just as an entity, showed up and said, Hey, take

715
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: these glasses. You're gonna love them. You just everything you

716
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: look at, You're gonna be able to take video of

717
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: everything you say, everything that everybody says to you, You'll

718
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: be able to hear and record it. And then just

719
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: having them explain to you that, yeah, I mean, we're

720
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: gonna monitor some of it, just just to make sure

721
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 1: that that we make the apps better and the hardware

722
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: bet or it's for improvement, that's really what it's for,

723
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: um and also to enhance your advertising experience. Interesting point though,

724
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: these are not augmented reality, not yet, they're not but there,

725
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: but they are connected. Right, So if it's used in

726
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: the same way that Facebook is used in that Facebook

727
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: can track everything you look up, what you talk about,

728
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: what you're interested in, what you post about, what you like,

729
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 1: what you dislike, if that exists already is their business model.

730
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: Now you're putting cameras that you're putting Facebook cameras on

731
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: your head. G I wonder what they're going to use

732
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: that for. Probably is the same type of stuff they

733
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: use those cars that they send around that you see

734
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: grabbing up geographical data. Exactly. Yeah, there will be geo

735
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: tagged and and speakers. Remember, any electronic device you have

736
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: that possesses a speaker, you should assume it possesses some

737
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: version of a microphone one as well at this point,

738
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: so you will be able to take phone calls on

739
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: these things for anybody who somehow is not horrified by

740
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: being on the phone. And the thing with this is

741
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: that that means it will be listening to sound. I'm

742
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 1: sure it will have GEO tagging or geo location. It

743
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: will also be able to I'm sure there will be

744
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 1: language about using turning off for photos and short videos

745
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: or whatever, but I'm also likewise sure that language will

746
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: be written such that it is safe to assume it's

747
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: never really off. When the rubber hits the road. So

748
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: if there is a for instance, if you are if

749
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: you are a witness to something like a car crash

750
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: or a crime, then maybe that footage gets bulled, you know,

751
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: and they don't. They just maybe there's a this is

752
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: years down the road, but maybe there's a blanket request

753
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: where it says, okay, we need every you know, Facebook

754
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: face out there in the area, we need the location,

755
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: and say, okay, we've got these people all at Facebook accounts,

756
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: they were around this area at the time of the crash.

757
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: And then of these people X amount have these glasses

758
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: and they were standing there. So let's just pull the

759
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: footage like it is. We are closer and closer to

760
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: this kind of world and it should scare people, and

761
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't know why it doesn't. Well, it's interesting when

762
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: you look at them, they do look good. They do

763
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: look like a cool pair of rabands for the most part.

764
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: They're a little smaller, weirdly like around the eyes kind of,

765
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: and they have you can see the camera. You can

766
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: see the camera lenses on either side. And I'm not

767
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: sure if it's two of them or what, but they

768
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: are there are these little dots on either side, and

769
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: I wonder you know a lot of ways that they

770
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: get around. Uh. The idea of like, oh are you

771
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: feeling me is there's some kind of led lie. That's

772
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: why that red light on a camera exists in the

773
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: first place. It was so people would know, Hey, turn

774
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: the camera off. Okay, and the light goes off, you know,

775
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: the camera's gone on. Um I'm reading the specs on

776
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: the raband website. It doesn't say anything about that. It

777
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: doesn't say anything about a l e ED. It just

778
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: says that they are WiFi connectible, Bluetooth compatible. UM five

779
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: photos can be stored on board or thirty to thirty

780
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: or thirty thirty second videos, which isn't that much. Yeah,

781
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: but that's you know, early days, baby, I'm with you

782
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: into authoritarian state surveillance. But yeah, you can You're right.

783
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: That's a really good point. So the way it works

784
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: in theory, if you can trust the company responsible, is

785
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: that you do a little tap on the side of

786
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: oh here we'll do props. Let's do props. Uh Okay.

787
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: So let's say these ray bands were talking and then um,

788
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: we're moving kilos of something, we're moving kilos of maple syrup,

789
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: and and then uh so you just tap on the glasses,

790
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: and then the thing that would prevent us from talking

791
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: about criminal activity then is that we would see those

792
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: little led lights that will just describe. But I also

793
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: think analog solutions are best around an uncertain camera. It's

794
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: best just to block it physically. I I don't know.

795
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: There's also the thing like, if human beings were ready,

796
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,479
Speaker 1: this technology could be amazing. It could do really good

797
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: stuff for everyone, you know, especially if you evolve into

798
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: an augmented reality aspect, You'll be able to learn so

799
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: much more about the world around you in a way

800
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: that's that could be incredibly beneficial. But based on based

801
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: on the organization involved, not Lexotica, not ray Band, but Facebook,

802
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: because of their track record, it's easy to see why,

803
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: uh why multiple people would be concerned on a privacy level.

804
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: There's another story that just came out about Facebook, and

805
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys had heard this one,

806
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: but Facebook just got busted again, uh, lying about how

807
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: they handle content. It turns out the Wall Street Journal

808
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: just reported this. It turns out they have a secret

809
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: list of about five point eight million people who are elite,

810
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: their celebrities or there are other what they call highly

811
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: effective individuals. If you're on this secret list, then you

812
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: get to bypass any rules about social communities, any of

813
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: those things that say like don't post hate speech, don't

814
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: post blah blah blah. Um they make it. Yeah that's yeah,

815
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: that's what I said. Uh yeah, five point eight million

816
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: people on this uh secret white list, and this program

817
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: is referred to as X check or cross verify. Uh

818
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: this again. This. You can read the full story and

819
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: the journal, but it looks like when people it looks

820
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: like Facebook is privately not doing the stuff that it

821
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: says it publicly is doing. So I would be concerned

822
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: with any company that that maintains that kind of duplicity.

823
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, am I being alarmists? I feel

824
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: like we're too too close now to a world wherein

825
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: everybody has some kind of a R augmentation. Right, If

826
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: you're listening to this, you just had a kid, congratulations

827
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: first off, And secondly, the trends indicate that they will

828
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: eventually grow up with something very much like a R.

829
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: And you know, we've described a scary world where it's

830
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: ad driven. Right, how long before the camera looks back

831
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,439
Speaker 1: in your eye and tracks what you're watching? What you're

832
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: looking at right and then emails you very threatening lee

833
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:55,439
Speaker 1: because this system if you defy me in hours, says

834
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: says Mark Zuckerberg. Uh, It's it's true, though, But I

835
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: if I felt the thing is, I love this idea

836
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: of increasingly embedded technology objectively, and if I could just

837
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: on a personal level, if I felt like I could

838
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: trust whatever entity was creating this, I wouldn't. I wouldn't

839
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: be so freaked out about it. Like what about you

840
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: guys if it was if it were like Google and

841
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: Facebook or the two biggest ones. But what if it

842
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: were something like Pro Publica, which is a great not

843
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: for profit journalistic institution, some other groups that use these

844
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: to like stick it to the man as opposed to

845
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,959
Speaker 1: the man trying to sell these to you, to stick

846
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: it to each other, or to basically play yourself. There's

847
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: a really great article in The New York Times about this.

848
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: The headline is fun and of itself. So smart glasses

849
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: made Google look dumb. Now Facebook is giving them a

850
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: try um and the author, Mike Isaac says it all

851
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: made me feel that I was being dragged into some

852
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Speaker 1: inevitable future dreamed up by people much more techy than me.

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Speaker 1: One in which the scenes between the real world and

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Speaker 1: the technology the support said at all but vanished. For years,

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Speaker 1: Silicon Valley has chased a vision similar to that of

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Speaker 1: a William Gibson novel, where sensors and cameras are woven

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Speaker 1: into the everyday lives and clothes of billions of people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the tech companies that have pursued these ideas have often

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Speaker 1: failed to achieve them, as people have shunned wearable computers,

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Speaker 1: especially on their faces. You know, I would I would

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Speaker 1: be into it, Ben if it was also a monitor

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Speaker 1: to where like, if I'm looking through the glasses, I

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Speaker 1: can playback video I've just recorded and it would look

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Speaker 1: the way it does when I look through. The only

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Speaker 1: thing about how much equipment you need to be able

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Speaker 1: to take a photograph of, say the night sky in

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Speaker 1: a way that looks looks as real as it does. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you look with your naked eye. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: that's cool. So that would be your sacrifice at the

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Speaker 1: at the health that would be your sacrifice, right, your

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Speaker 1: propitiation to the death of privacy. That would be your

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Speaker 1: trade off. Well, I mean I'm really imagining that. It's

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Speaker 1: like for anyone who is aging getting older and older,

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Speaker 1: like if you could some record like this sounds silly,

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Speaker 1: but go record playing with someone's grandchild, a great grandchild.

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Speaker 1: Just go really play with them and then be able

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Speaker 1: to put those glasses on somebody who say just isn't

878
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Speaker 1: able physically to go and play in that way anymore,

879
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: but would love to and they can actually hear it

880
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: and see it like that is black mirror as well,

881
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 1: But that would be that would be part of the

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Speaker 1: Facebook commercial for the ray bank commercial. But there's there's

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00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: there are Just so I know I'm being very dystopian

884
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Speaker 1: or pessimistic, but just so, there are some good examples.

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Speaker 1: Let's consider this, Uh, this kind of technology, once it progresses,

886
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: would be something where if the pilots in an airplane,

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Speaker 1: assuming humans still fly planes themselves, if the pilots in

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Speaker 1: an airplane or unconscious, worst case scenario, somebody has the

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Speaker 1: land plane, they could put these glasses on, and the

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Speaker 1: folks at air traffic control could see exactly what they're

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00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: doing and tell them how to land. Like think about

892
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: think about how incredibly easy tutorials would become. You know,

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Speaker 1: now you're fixing a car. If people are still allowed

894
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: to fix their own cars, you like how everyone in

895
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: these has a caveat, and then you'll be able to

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Speaker 1: actually see from a point of view that is directly

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00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: relevant to what you're doing with the engine. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I see those good things, and you could learn things easily.

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Speaker 1: You could have instant translation when you're talking to people

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Speaker 1: if they speak a different language. There's a lot of

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00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: opportunity for really powerful good things. But again, and this

902
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Speaker 1: is just my own prejudice because of the origin point,

903
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a there's a bit of a

904
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Speaker 1: poison pill here, and so I'm worried about it and

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00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: love for another competitor to come out um or for

906
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: Facebook to do something that can ensure the public. It's

907
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: days of duplicity have true concluded and it's a new

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00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: era of transparency or honesty. But I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that would happen. I know we went a little long

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Speaker 1: on this one, so we're gonna wrap it up today.

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Speaker 1: We'd like to hear from you. We want to hear

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Speaker 1: your ideas about these stories we have shared. And uh,

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Speaker 1: just because we left up on the Facebook thing, Hey,

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Speaker 1: thing and you should in the Facebook group. Here's where

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00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 1: it gets crazy, and they are claiming, you know, which

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Speaker 1: was probably verifiable, that that all this stuff is encrypted,

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Speaker 1: which we mean it's encrypted from Facebook, so it's not

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Speaker 1: like you can They're just automatically having a feed from

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Speaker 1: your eyeballs directly to their like you know, uh algorithm,

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Speaker 1: just Devil's advocate putting that up, like the way they

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Speaker 1: We literally just talked about the one that has the glasses,

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