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Speaker 1: Welcome to this Country Life. I'm your host, Brent Rieves

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Speaker 1: from coon hunting to trot lining and just general country living.

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Speaker 1: I want you to stay a while as I share

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Speaker 1: my stories and the country skills that will help you

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Speaker 1: beat the system. This Country Life is proudly presented as

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Speaker 1: part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network, bringing you the best

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Speaker 1: outdoor podcast the airways have to offer. All right, friends,

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Speaker 1: pull you up a chair or drop that tailgate. I

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Speaker 1: think I got a thing or two. The teaching old school.

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Speaker 1: The term old school usually conjures up antiquated ideas and ways,

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Speaker 1: maybe even clothing from a bygone era that most consider outdated.

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Speaker 1: My wife will tell you quick that rumbingon through my

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Speaker 1: closet is like taking a trip back in time, and

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Speaker 1: according to her, it's a bat trial. But in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: there's lots to be said for those tried and true

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Speaker 1: staples of practicality and function that far surpassed fashion and style.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about all kinds of old school today,

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Speaker 1: but first I'm going to tell you a story. It

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Speaker 1: was common old school practice where I grew up for

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Speaker 1: folks to occasionally take it upon themselves to burn the

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Speaker 1: woods off. Now back before timber companies put their force

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Speaker 1: into regular burn cycles and management plans other than harvest,

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Speaker 1: the locals would help them out and do it themselves. Now,

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Speaker 1: the old school term for that was burning off the woods.

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Speaker 1: The new, more acceptable and probably accurate term for that

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Speaker 1: is called arson, and it's greatly frowned upon, and for

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Speaker 1: good reason. Control burning has been an important forster to

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Speaker 1: for a long time. During certain times of the year,

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Speaker 1: a good burn helps control the amount of litter build up.

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Speaker 1: And by litter, i'm talking about leaves and limbs, dead timber,

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Speaker 1: anything else that will burn, not trash. But when all

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Speaker 1: that stuff is left to build up over the years,

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Speaker 1: it could burn out of control and to the point

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Speaker 1: of becoming a wildfire where timber damage and property loss

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Speaker 1: or higher risk. By staying ahead of those conditions, you

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Speaker 1: can avoid all those problems. There's plenty more advantages to burning,

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Speaker 1: like regenerating growth, shifting soil nutrients, and removal of undesired plants.

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Speaker 1: That's just to name a few. So with that in mind,

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Speaker 1: let me take you on a journey back in time

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Speaker 1: to what I was just a lad. It was late

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Speaker 1: February and had been unseasonably warm and my Dad and

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Speaker 1: I had slipped down to the Slain River bottoms to

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Speaker 1: see if we could catch a mess of fish. We

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Speaker 1: stopped on a bridge on the lower Potlatch Road to fish. Now,

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Speaker 1: there were two main roads that ran through that area,

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Speaker 1: being the major avenue for hauling out timber, as the

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Speaker 1: lower road was closer to the actual river bottoms and

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Speaker 1: could be flooded from the many sloughs and creeks and

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Speaker 1: boughs that criss crossed along the way. Potlatch was a

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Speaker 1: timber coming in South Arkansas that owned a huge portion

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Speaker 1: of the woods that we liked to hunt in, and

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Speaker 1: the roads were built for hauling out harvested timber. When

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Speaker 1: I was a kid, that was the biggest place on earth.

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Speaker 1: To me. That was my Yellowstone, my Bob Marshall Wilderness,

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Speaker 1: and it represented everything that was wild to me. The

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Speaker 1: Yellowstone might as well have been on Jupiter. And I

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Speaker 1: never even heard of the Bob as my friends and

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Speaker 1: Bozeman referred to it. For that matter, I never heard

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Speaker 1: of Bozeman either, But I thought there was no way

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Speaker 1: and we'd have that place to run around in forever. Now,

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Speaker 1: this was way before leasing, and folks honored deer camp

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Speaker 1: claims for deer season, but that was it. Every other

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Speaker 1: But that's the way it had always been, and as

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Speaker 1: lit the fluid soaked charcoal that blazed up like a volcano.

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Speaker 1: another day. Dad Dad broke off a big pine limb

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Speaker 1: both knew it. He kicked the coal bucket over toward

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Speaker 1: the fire was headed. There was nothing we could do

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Speaker 1: Now that may sound terrible, but my dad knew that

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Speaker 1: That's a moniker you should earn on purpose, not on accident. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I kept pestering Dad for us to go check it,

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Speaker 1: We did take time to get the charcoal bucket and

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Speaker 1: everything else is out of the truck before we went,

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Speaker 1: just in case we ran into somebody. But it was

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Speaker 1: a good lesson to learn. I felt better about it.

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Speaker 1: The main thing I felt better about was my dad

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Speaker 1: wasn't mad at me, and I hadn't destroyed someone's home

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Speaker 1: some fish. Well. Dad pulled down in that old logging

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Speaker 1: all my life. Mister Junior was a good man. Mister

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Speaker 1: Junior raised chickens, and my dad was his serviceman for years.

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Speaker 1: But raising chickens wasn't mister Junior's only job. He was

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Speaker 1: also the Arkansas Forestry Commission's county forest ranger for Cleveland County.

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Speaker 1: In other words, he was the wildfire police. And he

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Speaker 1: was pulling up beside my Dad's truck and rolling down

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Speaker 1: his window. I was going to prison and would never

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Speaker 1: how are you, Junior. I'm good. Looks like we got

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Speaker 1: a little smoke going. My dad said, yeah, it looks

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Speaker 1: thirty five acres of pot lash's cane thicket. I was doomed.

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Speaker 1: Time slowed down to a crawl as I prayed for

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Speaker 1: my dad to take his foot off that clutch and

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Speaker 1: get us out of there. That fire ain't going nowhere,

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Speaker 1: is it, buddy, now Junior? It ought to be about

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Speaker 1: burnt out, but now lake slough goes all the way

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Speaker 1: around it. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Probably a good thing

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Speaker 1: Some would say that even toting a knife is old school,

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Speaker 1: So how about we continue this next week. Well, Brin,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great idea. Now, this is my

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Speaker 1: you'll get more out of it than they will. I

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Speaker 1: thank y'all for listening and would appreciate it if you

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Speaker 1: it to Until next week, this is Brent Reeves signing off.

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Speaker 1: Y'all be careful