1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: On this episode of the Mets Up Podcast, we go 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: over all the huge free agent moves from the Mets 3 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: over the past week, plus a full breakdown of our 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: new starting picture of Code I Sanga. 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: Could we be moving to a six man rotation? We're 6 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: gonna talk about it, it might make sense. And did we 7 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: mention Brandon Nimo is back? 8 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: He's a Met for life. 9 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 2: This and so much more on the next episode of 10 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: the Mets Up Podcast. 11 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: Get Up, Get Up? What's Up? Mets fans? 12 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of the Mets Up Podcast, 13 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: Episode number one fifty three. 14 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: We have so much to talk about. 15 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: In today's episode, you know, all the big moves that 16 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 2: the Mets have made, Brandon neimojse A Kingtan, David Robertson, 17 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: and Code I Sango. We're gonna talk about everything that 18 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: has gone on in the Mets world in the past week, 19 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: So make sure you guys stick around and listen. Of course, 20 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: if you're enjoying everything that you're seeing listening, whatever it is, 21 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: make sure you follow us on all our social media 22 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 2: at Mets up, m E T s DUP on Twitter, Instagram, 23 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: and TikTok. If you're looking for the YouTube video version 24 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: of this podcast. Make sure you go to the New 25 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: York YouTube channel and subscribe. And if you're listening to 26 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: US Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Odyssey, drop us a rating, 27 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: drop us a review, download and subscribe. James, how you doing, man, 28 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: it's bit a minute since we last spoke. 29 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm doing great. We just saw one 30 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: of the most unbelievable weeks of free agency in the 31 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: history of the team we both root for and podcasts for. 32 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: So I think it was a pretty good week overall. 33 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, Steve Cone seems to be changing the game a 34 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: little bit with how free agency is moving, because I mean, 35 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: you talked about a record breaking or a historic week 36 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: in terms of Mets free agency, just in terms of 37 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: baseball free agency, it felt like it was a pretty 38 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: unbelievable week in terms of the moves and the signings 39 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: and the trades that have been going on. 40 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: I knew things were different because I was heading out 41 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: on Saturday night. I'd just gotten off a train and 42 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: my friend and I were just going to the Delhi 43 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: podega again a sandwich, you know, get a drink and 44 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: ready for an evening, and I took out my phone 45 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: to start texting just in the middle of the store, 46 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: and the guy behind the grill just saw my phone 47 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: and he thought that the Mets up sticker was just 48 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: simply a metsticker. So he goes, oo, come over here, 49 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: talk to my friend. Talk to my friend. He never 50 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: stopped talking about the Mets, and we taught me and 51 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: this random guy worked the counter at this deli. We 52 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: talked about the Mets for like twenty five minutes. My 53 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: friend was like, we have to leave. What are you 54 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: doing right now? Please get out of here. And when 55 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: that had this was even before the Sanga signing, because 56 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: that was of course very late Saturday night, So you 57 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: just kind of felt like something different was in the 58 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: air after the last week in the Mets world, and 59 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: it was cool to see, like just see the feel 60 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: the energy at the time when baseball energies usually at 61 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 1: a low. 62 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the way to describe it, there's 63 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: a buzz. There's quite the buzz going on. Like we've 64 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: seen a lot of moves by other teams being made, 65 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: but the Mets are stealing a lot of headlines too, 66 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 2: Like the Brandon Nemo signing was awesome and will dive 67 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: deep into that of course, the code. I single one 68 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: which you mentioned that happened late on Saturday night was like, whoa, 69 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: we did it? Oh my god, especially after hearing that 70 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: apparently the Padres offered him more and. 71 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: He wanted to come and be with the Mets. 72 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: Like that's awesome to hear that stuff that in years 73 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: past you wouldn't have heard with the Mets. 74 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: With players, we get David Robertson. 75 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: Who's a guy that a lot of fans really wanted 76 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: last year at the trade deadline, we bring in home 77 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: like Kingtana, Like this are these are moves that are 78 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 2: pushing this Mets team forward for a team that already 79 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 2: won one hundred games last year as well, Like I 80 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: love what's going on. I love that we're spending money. 81 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: I love that the Mets are going forward because it's 82 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: it would have been really easy to be satisfied and 83 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 2: be like, we won one hundred games last year, that's it, 84 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 2: that's what we got. But the Mets are looking to 85 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: get better. 86 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: And I love that We've talked so much about the 87 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: innings that the Mets have lost compared had lost between 88 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: last year's team and this year's team, and we've seen 89 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: them add so many potential innings to this pitching staff 90 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: in the last like ten twelve days. It's like a 91 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: little bit ridiculous. Like we talked about Verlander last week, 92 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: we just barely just based on the time we missed 93 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: the Antana news. We'll break that down. Then you add 94 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: in Sanga, then you talk about these relief pitchers. It's 95 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: it's it's shocking how many players this team has been 96 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: able to bring in. It's kind of like that scenario 97 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: where we were like, all right, well, this team wants to, 98 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, get to where they want to be. It's 99 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: gonna have to be a lot of money spent or 100 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: a lot of prospects sent out, and it's just deeep 101 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: going to okay, open up the checkbook, anything you need. 102 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: And even after that Nimo deal and the rob deal 103 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: and we're like, all right, we're to the coen TACs. 104 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: This seems probably in a good spot where it is 105 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: right now. Okay, we'll see what happens here. And then 106 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: just completely out of the sky late Saturday night, how 107 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: they part these galore. Steve Cohen drops the bomb and 108 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: we we just like can't help but be really really excited, happy, 109 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: proud that we here with this organization, who has is 110 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,239 Speaker 1: so committed to winning right now with such a breadth 111 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: of fresh air, like people were walking differently. It was 112 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: in my office. They all the mess angel like this 113 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: was a good weekend. This is pretty good right now. 114 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: This is unbelievable. It's it's just a warm feeling. 115 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. I means, let's talk about Code I Sanga first, 116 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: because I feel like, out of all the moves that 117 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: were made, he's probably the most interesting one, just because 118 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: there's a lot of mystery in terms of who he 119 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: is as a player, what he is because obviously, I'm 120 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 2: gonna say ninety nine point nine percent of Mets fans 121 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: are not watching the NPB on a daily basis, so 122 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: you're not getting a lot of Code I Sang yet. 123 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: And we did break him down. 124 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: A little bit earlier when we were talking about our 125 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: free agent preview in a couple episodes ago. But now 126 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: that he is a Met, we can dive even more 127 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: deep into him. We can get more into the numbers, 128 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: more into the research, and as I do, I mean, 129 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: I just I like it more and more too, Like 130 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: that five for seventy five just feels like it's so 131 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 2: it's such a smart contract like that five for seventy 132 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: five for a guy who could be a really good 133 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: starter on this team, like at the end of the day, could. 134 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: Look like highway robbery in a case. I mean, you 135 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: look at other pictures over the last two offseasons who've signed, 136 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: including this one the last one for in the similar 137 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: range aav wise and even similar years wise as Sanga. 138 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: Where you go look at Lance mccullors with the Astros 139 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: resounding there, John Gray signing with the Rangers, last one there, 140 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: jameson ty On I think he was either four or 141 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: five years at like seventeen or eighteen mil or the 142 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: Cubs last week. And while the Rodriguez I believe was 143 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: four for sixty with the Tigers last year. And you 144 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: look at those pictures for that money, and you look 145 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: at Sanga and you probably do see a guy who 146 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 1: while all the pictures we've mentioned probably have something that's 147 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: gonna need to be tweaked or to be worked on, 148 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: or some kind of war, whether it be durability or 149 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: lack of a swinging mess fastball, like he is the 150 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: guy who won throws the hardest, which is a good 151 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: place to start. And two just had I mean again, 152 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: so all these other guys have very good pitches, but 153 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: Sanga has a real outpitch that's gonna come to the 154 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: major leagues and be effective immediately. And that's the ghost 155 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: fork Ball split there that everybody's been talking about so 156 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: widely right now across baseball. 157 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: Well, I feel like, you know a pitcher's got some 158 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: stuff when you see Pitching Ninja start tweeting out the 159 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: gifts and the videos of the guy, And I feel like, 160 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 2: since Sanga has signed with the Mets, all I've been 161 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 2: seeing is Pitching Ninja gifts and videos of code I 162 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: Sanga and that ghost Forkball, Like it's kind of fascinating 163 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: to watch because we don't really get to see these 164 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: type of pitches. It's almost in the same like sense 165 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: or same feeling of when like Matsuzaka came over and 166 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: he had the gyro ball, Like, now there's this new pitch. 167 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: It's it's got this it's got a nickname that's really cool, 168 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,559 Speaker 2: Like ghostball is such a cool nickname for a pitch 169 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: that's so dope. Like I'm I'm so excited, it's so 170 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: much fun to watch. 171 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: And also just having a picture come over from the 172 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: Japanic career that's coming with a lead velocity. Like we 173 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: talked a little bit last time that maybe the fastball 174 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: traits for Sanga aren't exactly swinging missed the ball, but 175 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: we also have to see it happen first. We all 176 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: know it has much more run than those rides. Whatever, 177 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: we'll see how that works, especially making his major league hitters. 178 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: But he's still throwing a ninety five ninety six ninety 179 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: seven miles an hour. That's an incredible place to start. 180 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: It's not really a that's not really a pitch velosity 181 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: that you will be able to sign a guy fifteen 182 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: million dollars annually very often. Like I just named all 183 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: those guys, John Gray, McCullers at BARALDA. Rodriguez. Those are 184 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: low nineties guys. Sit down there. Maybe John Gray can 185 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: put Dusted up to ninety four if he really reaches 186 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: back at this point in his career. But getting that 187 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: velocity end an elite off speed pitch right there to start, 188 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: that's incredible. And just at fifteen million dollars, if he 189 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: pitches one hundred and twenty one hundred and thirty hundred 190 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: forty the innings like that is a contract is significantly 191 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: worth it. And then if you're able to actually hit 192 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: that upside. He's a guy who's been to drive Line 193 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: this winter. He said he really wanted to come to 194 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: a team that was using day the modern pitching development, 195 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: modern analytics, and he seems like he really liked what 196 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: the mess we're able to tell him. This guy really 197 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: could keep getting better, and that's kind of the best 198 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: part about this contract. 199 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: He's a guy who looks like he wants to get 200 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: better too, Like you said, with all that data and 201 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: analytics and drive Line, like hearing a guy go to 202 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: drive line on his own from Japan, especially when like 203 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: Japanese baseball. I don't want to say is like behind 204 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: by any means, because that's not the correct terminology, but 205 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: like they are a little more traditional. 206 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: You don't really see these big arms. 207 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: You don't really see guys as much trying to pick 208 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: up vlo like we have seen with Senga. So the 209 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: fact that he's like, no, I want to be a 210 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: better pitcher. We talked about with Verlander last episode being 211 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: addicted to pitching, seems like Senga wants to get to 212 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: that level as well, which is so refreshing, so awesome 213 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: to see because you know he had great success in 214 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: the MPB. 215 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: He could come over and be like, I know what, 216 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: I know. You're not gonna tell me how to change. 217 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: And it seems like he's completely on board with just 218 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: getting better. 219 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: One of the coolest pieces of news I think has 220 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: come out with the Sega signing is Adam Jones, who 221 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: left Major League Baseball went over the MPB a few 222 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: years ago, probably four or five years ago. At this 223 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: point in time, is just moving incredibly fast. He I 224 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: remember if it was a tweet or if it was 225 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: a line and gave a journalist, but all he said 226 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: was he's nasty nice. That's good. That's all I need. 227 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 2: Really, yeah, I mean everything that we've seen looks really good. 228 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: Obviously we have to work on like the breaking pitch, 229 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: because he's been very much fastball ghost ball, like you said, 230 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: so figuring out that that breaking pitch. I think he 231 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: throws a slider ish right, James. 232 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: It's like a slitherer and a col apparently. And I 233 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: got this information from Jim Allen at j Ball Allen. 234 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: He just he's a blogger for the MPB. It's really 235 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: good content. To check him out if you guys want 236 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: to learn more about coat I, saying he's written a 237 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,599 Speaker 1: lot about him this year. Look at you getting the 238 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: shout out too, of course, yeah, right, And apparently the 239 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: slider is as it was described as a two plane slider, 240 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: which means that it's not really that much bite and 241 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: has like almost as much sweep as it does drop, 242 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: which if you kind of find tune that grip. That's 243 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: something we've talked about a little bit in the show recently, 244 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: the new sweeper that's coming across baseball, where the pitch 245 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: acts like a slider, where it's like sliding, but it's 246 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: also dropping and it spins a little bit differently than 247 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: the way it comes off your hand. Maybe that's the 248 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: tweak that the Mets sea and that can make it happen. 249 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: But right now, apparently it's just not reliable as a 250 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: bat missing pitch. He said he can use to get 251 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: called strikes. He's good at that. That's a skill that 252 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 1: he has. That's a bat missing pitch. It's not exactly 253 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: super super reliable. But also we know that our pitching 254 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: labs here in the States are significantly better than Japan, 255 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: especially the one that's led by Jeremy Hefner over here 256 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: at queans, and this is something that he's been committed to. 257 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: He's like, do you don't see that many pictures? Maybe 258 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: you do more so now say like I want more data, 259 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: I want more things. Tell me how to be good 260 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: and saying is a guy who even just to find 261 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: this velocity at six feet tall, one hundred and eighty pounds, 262 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: that is a dramatic feet in of itself. So there's 263 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: really while there is definitely risk of finding that velocity 264 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: a little bit later in his career and being undersized. 265 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: If you guys watched videos to him, he definitely has 266 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: a bit of a violent release. And these are all 267 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: things we talked about a month ago, and we talked 268 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: about Sanga. He really just gets himself around there, really 269 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: gets to torque on himself. He also last year to 270 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: deal with some melible tightenness kept him have a few starts. 271 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: He also is funny. I mentioned the last episode apparently 272 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: is a legend. He came from Jim Allen. He had 273 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: a bit of a tiff with his manager. We know 274 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: the managers in Japan are much more old school. They're 275 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: from the old Guard. He just apparently wasn't throwing enough 276 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: fastballs and that was something that kind of rubbed the 277 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: rubbed his team the wrong way. So they were like, 278 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: you gotta throw more fastballs. We throw fastballs here. But 279 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just it's cool to see this 280 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: guy commit, committed getting better. It's cool to see him 281 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: really want to come to a team that was committed 282 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: to winning. Kolow team that was committed to using data 283 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: and their pitching development. Because we did also hear that 284 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: the other team gunning for Sango was the Padres. Yes, 285 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: Padres are our team, very also clearly committed to winning. 286 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: It's not a big market like New York, but San 287 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: Diego is one of the biggest markets, if not the 288 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: biggest market all Major League Baseball just has one team 289 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: in it. I mean, I guess if you spin it 290 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: that way, yeah, yeah, there's one team, yeah, but out there. 291 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: But they're a team that over the last few years, 292 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: and maybe that's changed a little bit more recently, but 293 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: I know, going back a couple of years, they haven't 294 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: really been as keen to include a lot more data 295 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: and that type of learning and development and in their 296 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: professional team, which you take it for with a will. 297 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: If that was the thing that pushed him over the 298 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: edge to get us. Sanga like, that's really cool, but 299 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: it seems like the up here up here, cause I 300 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: Sanga gets it. And that's the biggest thing with pitching 301 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: in New York. 302 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: And I feel like, based on the moves that we 303 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: saw the Mets make, and you mentioned it a little 304 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: bit earlier with Senga and how many things, maybe we 305 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: can realistically expect to have him in the first year. 306 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: Something that they do in Japan is that they have 307 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 2: a pitcher pitch every day of the week and they 308 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: have an off day once a week, so they go 309 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 2: to a six man rotation. And not that the Mets 310 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: are necessarily going to do this, but I think it's 311 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: worth at least exploring the option right now with the 312 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: starting pitching depth that we currently do have, where a 313 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: six man rotation might not be a bad thing, especially 314 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: for Senga to get acclimated to Major League Baseball, and 315 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: I mean he will be pitching more often. That's something 316 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: you have heard Japanese pitchers talk about in the past, 317 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: is that getting used to the MLB schedule as opposed 318 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: to the NPB schedule does take adjustment. So with you know, Scherzer, Verlander, Carrasco, Senga, 319 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: Keen Tana who we're going to talk about mcgil Peterson, 320 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I am I forgetting anybody else Like, there's 321 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: just there's a lot of arms that can be used, 322 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 2: so you don't necessarily have to push this guy to 323 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: his absolute you know, past his limit. 324 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: Definitely, and we just we hold this entire offseason seasons 325 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: all about getting those two horses. Ferlander and Sures are 326 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: ready to go on October first. Yeah, the regular season 327 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: this year, knock on wood, it's going to be mostly 328 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: a flirt, just based on the way the sevent team 329 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: playoff works. You gotta play well enough, get to the 330 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 1: dance and have all of the gears turning when the 331 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: dance begins. So I don't think it even is again, 332 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: we have no we have no knowledge of what's going 333 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: to happen here at all. I don't think it's the 334 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: craziest idea for the depth of mets have developed here 335 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 1: in also a way to keep pushing the development of 336 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: David Peterson and Tyler McGill Andngekota I sang acclimate to 337 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: the major leagues. I don't think six mevitation is a 338 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: bad idea at all, it's something I think would actually 339 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: be pretty cool, probably have a good long term impact 340 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: on this team. 341 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: And I mean even talking about our top guys or 342 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: Lander and Schurz are like, if we can keep them 343 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: a little bit more. 344 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: Fresh, no, it never be a bad thing, So of 345 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: course push them out. 346 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: I think it's definitely worth it. And I mean we 347 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 2: were just talking about Code I Sanga. But we also 348 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: brought in Hosey Kintana. Like we said earlier, happened about 349 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 2: twelve hours after we finished recording the last episode, so 350 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: it wasn't able to come out for that one. But 351 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: we can talk about it now. Crafty little Lefty, I think, 352 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: is the way we're gonna describe it, right, Crafty Lefty 353 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: he's going to eat innings fits with this rotation well, 354 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 2: because we talked about how many innings we were missing. 355 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: He's a guy that's going to slot in for about 356 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty probably. I mean it's a pretty good. 357 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: Move, definitely, And I do think that now that we've 358 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: signed all three of these pitchers, I think the plan 359 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: comes more into focus because we talked a lot about 360 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: and say it again, the Mets need the innings and 361 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: they were basically like a couple of different cohorts of 362 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: pictures that they were looking at between either Verlander, de 363 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: Gram or possibly Rodin which whatever. And you ended up 364 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: getting Verlander out of that group. And then you saw 365 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: the Heini, the Clevenger, the Kintana. Who else was in 366 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: that group? I guess the Stripling maybe, yeah, that kind 367 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: of cohort of pictures, And then you had the Sanga, 368 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: the Taiwan. I guess Bassett because he just signed for 369 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: more money but less years. Kind of those three levels 370 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: of pictures, and you kind of saw the Mets in 371 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: that first level be like, I want the guy who 372 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: we think is gonna consistently give us more innings in 373 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: a shorter term commitment. That was just in Verlander, and 374 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: then you go to the Katana tier and it didn't 375 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: make as much sense, I don't think at the time, 376 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: but now it's become more clear. With Sanga coming in, 377 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, we need to buy reliability over upside here. Yeah, 378 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: we are prioritizing reliability and then we're gonna say we're 379 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: gonna find our upside elsewhere. And they did find this 380 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: upside elsewhere with Sanga. I think I think Sanga has 381 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: significantly more upside and making less money probably than Taiwan 382 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: or Bassett. As great as those guys were for this tea, 383 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: and as Up said, I truly was to see them go, 384 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: he simply throws harder and he probably has a better 385 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: off B pitch in either of them. Maybe Taiwan Splither, 386 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: maybe the way Slider came on too, But there's just 387 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: there's more pieces of this code. I sang a repertoire 388 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: of fifteen million dollars annually. That's saying this guy could 389 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: actually wind up instead of being like the three four 390 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: were signing him for possibly under two to three line, 391 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: which would be Vasca scenario. And that is possible because 392 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: you signed a guy Kintana who throws innings and innings 393 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: and is ings every single year. It's not gonna be spectacular. 394 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: He's not gonna miss a lot of the bats. He's 395 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: gonna keep the ball on the ground. He's gonna work 396 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: crafty lefty. He's a crafty lefty. He's a guy who 397 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: you put in the rotation. He kind of changes the 398 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: things up from the other pitchers. He's also another lefty, 399 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: which is Mets. Rotation has been missing for the last 400 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: couple of years. He's gonna a good defense behind, he's 401 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: gonna pitch it in a big Ballpark's it was a 402 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: low it was a low impact signing and allowed them 403 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: to take their risk elsewhere. 404 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he had a two nine ERA last year. 405 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: Is that gonna be replicated? Probably not just again, we 406 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: understand how regression works. But for his career three seven 407 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: r and he averages about like one hundred and sixty 408 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: hundred SNY innings a year. That's exactly what the Mets needed, 409 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: like you just said, And I mean, I feel like 410 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: he's gonna be a guy that Mets fans really like. 411 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: To just because he's gonna throw strikes. 412 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 2: He's gonna get batters to hopefully make quick outs and 413 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 2: go deeper into games. 414 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,359 Speaker 1: They're gonna be like King Toan was reliable. 415 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: We got king Tona go in every five or six days, 416 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: whatever it is. He's going out there giving us six 417 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: It's like almost ish like when rich Hill came over 418 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: for that little brief stint with the Mets, like you 419 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: know what you're getting. You're not gonna ever watch him 420 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: and say like, Wow, that's the best pitcher I've ever seen. 421 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, the results are 422 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: pretty good. 423 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: He's gonna kind of be like Lefty Carrasco, where like 424 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna have some really good starts against the bad teams. 425 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: He'll keep you in games against the good teams. Like 426 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: once in a while things look pretty bad, you'd be like, 427 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: all right, tipicap to the other team and move on 428 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: to the next day. And he's just gonna walk out 429 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: there every fifth day and just pitch. He's gonna give 430 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: your innings when you need them. It's not gonna be 431 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: super incredible. He's probably true skill wise, more like a 432 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: guy like high threes, low four z Ra. Yeah, similar 433 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: to what we've said about Carrasco, and he's just gonna 434 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: give you winnings. The Mets lost nine hundred innings from 435 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: their team when this offseason began, and Cantana is a 436 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: huge step to getting them back one hundred percent. 437 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: I also think it's really funny too that in terms 438 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: of you know, the pitching, let's go to the bullpen side. 439 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 2: Now that David Robertson, the guy who Mets fans had 440 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: been screaming and moaning and going absolutely crazy about, finds 441 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: his way back to New York, this time with the 442 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: Mets on a one year, ten million dollar deal. I mean, 443 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 2: same ni moment as Nimo, Like Nimo happened, then David 444 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: Robertson happened all within like five minutes, which was really cool, 445 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 2: and I feel like, I mean, we know that Robertson's good. 446 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 2: We talked about him. He was a guy that we'd considered, 447 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: we wanted last year during the trade deadline. 448 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: We didn't want to give up something crazy. 449 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: But we kind of got the best of both worlds 450 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: here because now we got him and we didn't give 451 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: anything up, which I think is also showing how the 452 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 2: Mets are thinking too. Mets still haven't given up like 453 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: any prospects really besides Peter crow Armstrong that one time. 454 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely seems like that was a big priority 455 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: for this team. And also I think with Robertson, I 456 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: think it's very obvious now that they wanted someone with 457 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: a one year commitment. I didn't want to put that 458 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: bunch money on the books years past this because we 459 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: still are looking at two guys who were great for 460 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: this team last year, Seth Lugo and Adam and Vino 461 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: still sitting there on the free agent Mark as well 462 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: a lot of other pretty talented believers. But the fact 463 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: that you could probably get Robinson. I think he's a 464 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: thirty seven or thirty eight years old at this point. 465 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: He's old. He was even just out of baseball what 466 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: like two years ago. 467 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: I was about to bring that up that he was 468 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 2: a guy who at one point thought his career was 469 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: kind of over and just kind of floating around trying 470 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: to find that next team. The Rays got a hold 471 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 2: of him, We're like, hold on, wait a second, will 472 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 2: fix you where the Rays? And now his career has 473 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 2: continued on to be great. 474 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: This guy was pitching in the Olympics in twenty twenty one. 475 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: Think about that. That's so crazy, the Olympics. These guy 476 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: was pitching the Olympics that I was making ten million dollars. 477 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: And the biggest thing about David Robinson coming this team 478 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: is that he still has a super elite pitch, and 479 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: that's a knuckle curve that's always been a bread and 480 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: butther since those early days, way back when he was 481 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: with the Yankees with his really high socks and those 482 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: those thick, busting calves. But he also has a good 483 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: color that I think is the pitch that has come 484 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: on later I'll double check right now, and a slider 485 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: that gets by, and him having three pitches coming out 486 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: of that spot in the bullpen, something that we saw 487 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: Said Lugo used last year. It's a really, really, really 488 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,360 Speaker 1: good measure for a guy wh can get hitters out 489 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: on both sides of the plate. We all know how 490 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: important that is now is a three battered minimum rule. 491 00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: David Roberson getting out hitters on both sides of the 492 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: play late in games. He's gonna be a massive part 493 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: of the Mets success this year, one hundred percent. 494 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: He definitely seems like he's gonna slot into that set 495 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: up eighthitning role pretty nicely. He was closing big games 496 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: in the World Series. So if there was ever a 497 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: question of whether or not the guy can handle a 498 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: big moment, I think that's pretty pretty obvious what the 499 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: answer is gonna be. 500 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: He seems like. 501 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: He's ready, and he's pitched in New York before. I 502 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: think that's also really big too, because a lot of times, 503 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 2: I mean we saw it with Edwin Dias in his 504 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 2: first year. Pitching in New York isn't easy, especially in 505 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: high pressure games. Like Edwin Diaz was pitching in games 506 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: and the Mets were out of it ed people were 507 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: losing their mind. Now the Mets are in it. The 508 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: pressure is on, but I think David Robertson's totally ready 509 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: for it. 510 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: I was wrong about the color. Dave always had, the 511 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: colors always been his most thrown pitched. The difference is 512 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: that he's started throwing the slider few years ago and 513 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: last year was throwing the slyly in the curveball more 514 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: than years past. Okay, okay, got it, got it. Yeah, 515 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: I mean he looked good. 516 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: He looked good, and obviously bullpenorms. We want him, we 517 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 2: need him bring more in and the Mets seem to 518 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 2: be doing that. And then the last big move to 519 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: talk about here is gonna be the Brandon Nemo one, 520 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: which hallelujah, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. 521 00:19:59,400 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 3: You. 522 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 2: Guys, if you've been listening to us, you know that 523 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: both me and James were like, number one guy the 524 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: mess need to bring back this offseason, Brandon Neimo. You 525 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: have to bring back Neimo, and they did on an 526 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: eight year, one hundred and sixty two million dollar contract, 527 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: which yeah, I mean that feels like it could be 528 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: his absolute steal, especially with how Nimo played last year 529 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: and how good his defense is, how good he is 530 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: is the plate. You're getting it all around, really good 531 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: center fielder in his prime years for twenty million dollars 532 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: a year, all day, sign me up. 533 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: This was the deal that when it got signed, you 534 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: were immediately able to tell who paid close attention to 535 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: Nimo and the metro of the course for his career 536 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: who didn't, because all the people are paying close tention 537 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: were like, oh my god, Thank the Lord, the Mets 538 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: got Brandon Nemo back, like all our fears are averted, 539 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: and all the people who don't pay at tettert like 540 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: you gave eight years and twenty million dollars a year. 541 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: This guy has never even played one hundred and sixty 542 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: two games. He can't even do that. And then, like 543 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: you do, look at some of Nimo, You're like, wow, 544 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: this guy hasn't even hit forty home runs the last 545 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: four years, which is kind of funny. Or he's hit 546 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: eight twenty four, he's hit forty the home runs exactly. 547 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: There you go, good math, good math, there we go. 548 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: But I mean, if you watch this guy day in 549 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: the day, you just see how hard he works. You 550 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: see everything he does to this team. You see how 551 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: important he is at the league off spot in this order. 552 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: You see how much the game changes when he gets 553 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: on base to start the game and sprints down to 554 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: first base. You see how much he's improved, especially defensively, 555 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: over the last few years. His just commitment to getting 556 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: better and better every single year. Guy who was still 557 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: baseball young because he didn't play high school baseball, he 558 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: didn't play college baseball. He has such an uneven, rocky development. 559 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: And see him come into his own as he's in 560 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: his physical prime and reaching free agency and the only 561 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: center fielder on the market. He had all leverage in 562 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: the world, him and Scott Boris, and this was a 563 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: great deal when the Mets had to make and one 564 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: we're just so over the moon that they did make. 565 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: He has a. 566 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 2: WRC plus over the last two seasons of one thirty 567 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 2: five that is twentieth best in. 568 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. 569 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: Twentieth best in Major League Baseball at WRC plus creating 570 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: runs for your offense. 571 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: He also plays a great center field. 572 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 2: I mean some of the names of guys that he's 573 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: ahead of, Nolan Aeronado, Xander Bogart's Trey Turner. I mean, 574 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 2: we're naming some really, really good play and we're getting 575 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 2: Brandon Nimo at twenty million dollars a year. Like I again, 576 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: I made it so well known that was the guy 577 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: I felt the Mets had to bring back, especially because 578 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: the drop in talent that would have happened if Brandon 579 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: Nimo wasn't our center fielder would have been huge. 580 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: That would have been really really. 581 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: Hard to replace, especially because you probably moved Martin to center, 582 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: and then you have that whole situation going on, like 583 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: Nimo and center for the next eight years is gonna 584 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 2: just it's gonna be great. 585 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fantastic. I'm so pumped. I'm sure he 586 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: won't be in center for the next eight years. Well yeah, yeah, yeah, 587 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: feel yeah yeah. The way the way Brandon was developing 588 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: this point in his career like this, he's on base skills, 589 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: his ability not to chase bad pitches, that is one 590 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: of the best skills that you have that ages. So 591 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: the fact that he has that now is probably not 592 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: gonna get worse. He could even get better. And then 593 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: the fact that he's a good defensive center fielder right 594 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: now and center will be able to be still a 595 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: plus center field defender over there in the corner as 596 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: his contract gets in the later years. It's I don't know. 597 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say this slam dunk because the eight 598 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: years is crazy, but like thinking about it like this, 599 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: this is it And we got Johnny stats coming in 600 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: here from the bullpen, little stat. Only five players have 601 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: a higher on base percentage than NEMO since the start 602 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: of allegedly John's favorite year twenty eighteen, his favorite. 603 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 3: Years twenty eight You know why it's my favorite year? 604 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: Oh Rangers, year you turn thirty? 605 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 3: No? 606 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: No, okay, well year he turned forty, he's what forty two? Now? 607 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 4: No, Mark, you call me out on this because we 608 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 4: have been debating a little behind the scenes about some 609 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 4: other baseball players have signed free agent contracts recently, and 610 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 4: I keep going back to twenty eighteen because it's a 611 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 4: nice it's a it's a meaty sample size, you know, 612 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 4: like those thick, busting calves. It's like that, except for 613 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 4: sample size. That's what you want, a five year sample. 614 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 4: So anyway, yeah, five guys in baseball have higher obps 615 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 4: than NEMO since that year. 616 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 3: Who are ok and the company? 617 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 4: The company we're about to mention really contextualizes twenty million 618 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 4: a year. 619 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: I got two real quick ones here, Trout move trout. Oh, 620 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: Mookie's another one. 621 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 4: Trout, yes, number one, Mookie bets no judge, judge, yes, okay. 622 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 4: Man Bregman is seven, right, Actually, Brandon Emo ahead of 623 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 4: Alex Bregman. 624 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: What about Jordan Alvarez? Probably not qualified? 625 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 4: No, he has qualified. He's ninth on this list. And 626 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 4: that's a good point. It is qualifiers. Jose Ramirez, No, 627 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 4: Jose Ramirez. Brandon Emo ahead of Jose Ramirez. He's ahead 628 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 4: of Goldman players here. 629 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'll. 630 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 3: Give you together. I'll give you the other three. If 631 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 3: you got Harper, Bryce Harper is one of them. Yes, 632 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 3: he's fourth on this list. 633 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: One more guest Schwarber. 634 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 3: Not Schwarber. Okay, who there's a pretty obvious one. You 635 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 3: guys are missing. 636 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: We're missing him, Yeah, obvious obvious. Oh so though, yes, you. 637 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 4: Guys just knocked him out on your last guesses. I 638 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 4: love that, yes, Freeman, But I mean that just goes 639 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 4: to show. Look, we we had been talking throughout the 640 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 4: whole process, like who do they replace him with? And 641 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 4: you know, Kevin Kiermeyer was a name that was thrown 642 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 4: around and mentioned Andrew Ben and Tendy. He have five 643 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 4: home runs last season. 644 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: There's only ten less thon Xander Boguards. 645 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 4: Not everything's a bad home runs, but yeah, I mean 646 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 4: you guy. You guys mentioned that, you guys said all 647 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 4: there is to say, and I think that when you 648 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 4: put that into context, that. 649 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 3: This guy is the elite of the elite and getting 650 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 3: on base. 651 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 4: It's it's just it was a great night in Mets world, 652 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 4: as you guys said, a fantastic. 653 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 2: Night, especially because it came out of nowhere, like just seemingly, 654 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the Mets signed Brandon Nemo like 655 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 2: there hadn't been a rumor, there hadn't been anything, and 656 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 2: especially with Judge being off the board already, you kind 657 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 2: of felt like Nimo was gonna take his time as 658 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: a Boris guy and eight for one sixty two, it 659 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: seemed like it seemed like the Mets called Him's like 660 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: yeah right, I'm in. Like actually, the opposite rumors, the 661 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: rumors going in the other direction that Mets see it 662 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: unlikely sign Brandon Nemo whould go to show you how 663 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: much you could really trust rumors this day and age. 664 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: Of baseball, but unbelievable. It's guys at ten percent walkerrate 665 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: every single year since twenty sixteen, his barrels per play, 666 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: the appearance keep getting better. Just he's so good. He's 667 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: so freaking good. And the two years in Brandonmo's career 668 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: where he's play at least one hundred and forty games, 669 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: he's earned at least four point a that four. If 670 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: you could do that three four, five times over the 671 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: life of this contract, it is unbelievably incredibly worth it. 672 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, I'm so excited. I mean, he's a 673 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: big dude too. Well. 674 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 2: When I met him on the field and did some 675 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 2: TikTok stuff with him, shook his hand, I was like, 676 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: this dude is so massive. I know it doesn't necessarily 677 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: look like it all the time on the field, but 678 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: he's like he's built like you'd be a star wide receiver. 679 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: He's just a big do big shoulders. Like the power 680 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 2: I think can definitely come, but it's also not really 681 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 2: his game, Like he made great he had great success 682 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: this year, like slapping the ball around the field, getting 683 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 2: on base, doing his thing. 684 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: If he decides to become a power guy, like, oh 685 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: my goodness, this could be crazy. I mean, even last 686 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 1: year with the year of the dead ball, sixteen home runs, 687 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: like it's not really anything to slash. That was the 688 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: second most of his entire career after multiple years. If 689 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: hitting eight literally eight three years in a row exactly 690 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: with a vastly different amount of different amount of games 691 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: being played six three, two, ten, that's that's a big 692 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: that's a big boy. And also you look at look 693 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: at the other outfielders in baseball over the last two years, 694 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: we've signed contracts in a similar range of aav of 695 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: Starling Marte, Kyle Schwarber, Nicostianos. I mean, I think in 696 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: terms of like everything a player does, I'm not saying 697 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: that Nimo's the best player in that list, but in 698 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: terms of doing both things really well, I don't know. 699 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: I just I can't. I can't find another guy. And 700 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: this is five million less annually than George Springer and 701 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: their commitments end at about the same age. I'll say, 702 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: I'll say Nimo is the best guy out of that 703 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: list that you mentioned. I think he is. 704 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 2: I think pretty clearly, like I Schwarber has the power, 705 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 2: Castianos looked horrible last year, and Marte is really good. 706 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: But I just think Brandon Nimo's better. 707 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 2: I I mean me and you have been saying it, 708 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: James for a while, but brand Nimo's elite. 709 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying it. 710 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 2: It's weird to say at center field because you always 711 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 2: have Trout, But just because Mike Trout exists as one 712 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: of the best players of all time doesn't mean that 713 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: the other good players aren't elite as well. And brand 714 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: Nimo's one hundred percent elite. 715 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: He totally just it's the whole thing is about him 716 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: staying on the field, and you're only injury prone until 717 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: you're not. That's it, and. 718 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 4: There's more potential power there. I think with Nimo, he 719 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 4: is a guy who's very bad. 720 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 3: If his approach at the plate. 721 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 4: I remember there was a story about Joey Vado and 722 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 4: Brandon Nemo talking. I think it was twenty one when 723 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 4: the Reds came to City Field and the you know, 724 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: the the mindset of hey, swinging three to zero is 725 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 4: not the worst thing in the world, Like, yeah, obviously 726 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 4: you're in the driver's seat to draw a walk, but 727 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 4: you're getting it. 728 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 3: You're getting a strike at three, you know, like let 729 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 3: one rip. 730 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 4: Like you said, a big, a big framed guy played 731 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 4: football in high school, is a great football player. There 732 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 4: is more untapped power there. I think it's really the mindset, 733 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 4: the approach that Brandon Nemo takes it to the batter's 734 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 4: box with him. And it would not shock me if 735 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 4: as he continues to get older, you know, if he 736 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 4: tries to maybe sell out a little bit for some power. 737 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 4: Uh and that and that's a fine thing. And like 738 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 4: you guys said, how many good center fielders are there 739 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 4: in this sport right now? 740 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: Six? 741 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 4: Maybe it's there's such there's such a it's crazy because 742 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 4: it's such an important position. You look at defense and 743 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 4: center field and some of the teams that have gone 744 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 4: to the World Series in the last five years and 745 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 4: they they've been teams with good center fielders. And it's 746 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 4: just such a hard thing to find. And that's really 747 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 4: what made Brandon Nemo so valuable in this particular offseason, 748 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 4: and that's why he winds up getting an eight year deal. 749 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,239 Speaker 4: And I know the two of you were at We're 750 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 4: talking last week. I think Marky posed the question of James, 751 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 4: how many years do you think Brandon Nema winds up with? 752 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 3: No one said eight. 753 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 4: And it's something that we're learning this offseason is that 754 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 4: these teams are not worrying so much about twenty thirty. 755 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 4: Twenty thirty one, and James is smiling because it goes 756 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 4: in back to a conversation. But it's been a theme 757 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 4: all off season, and I don't think that it's going 758 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 4: to be a discontinued theme. Number One, it helps soften 759 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 4: the aav blow. You know the teams that are spending 760 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 4: right now, Padres, Phillies, Mets, maybe Yankees will see what 761 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 4: they do. What do they all have in common? They're 762 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 4: all kind of in win now mode. Yep, no one 763 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 4: is worrying about twenty thirty. That's number one and number 764 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 4: two again, no one has any idea what. 765 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 3: Baseball is gonna look like in twenty thirty. 766 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 4: We're probably gonna have another CBA negotiated, and I'm not 767 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 4: just saying that like the last one was five years. 768 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good point. I think about that. 769 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: I didn't think about the idea that baseball is going 770 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: is one going to be looking different by twenty thirty. 771 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: It's going to be much larger. I'm sure there might 772 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: even be expansion of off Like the. 773 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: League is going to be completely different. 774 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 2: So having your guy locked up for years that are 775 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 2: kind of like made. 776 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: Up right now. Who cares doesn't matter. And we also 777 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: just signed as a league like two massive streaming deals 778 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: last year. That's only going to become more prevalent. That 779 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: money is only getting deeper into these guys pockets over 780 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: the next few years. And I mean, it's true, it's 781 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: so a good point. I also think that with the 782 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: lack of the next option and the fact that you 783 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: don't want this to drag out because you want to 784 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: make sure you can like kind of use the rest 785 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: of the off season now to fill in the corners 786 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: of your roster, and now all the meats in place, 787 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: you know you got all your metia I getting out 788 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: good bread you want. If you let this drag out, 789 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: then you ended up missing, like you're you're screwed. Like 790 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: you have to be a little bit more aggressive early. 791 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: And we saw this with basically all these free agents 792 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: that MAT's Billy up with Steve Comer very aggressive early 793 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: to make sure they got their guys and then they 794 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: could let the rest fill itself. And I also think 795 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: another part of NIMO, we're talking about defense, talking about 796 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: how many good center fielders they actually are the Mets 797 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: have over like about ninety million dollars committed to two 798 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: pitchers who do not get any ground balls. You have 799 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: to have elite center field defense behind Max Scherz or 800 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: Justin Verlander, or that investment is not really worth what 801 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: you're paying. So to not have gotten him or like 802 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: an app strong defensive replacement would have been stupid. And 803 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: then if you get a big, strong defensive replacement you 804 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: can't hit, then you really need another hitter. And I 805 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: don't know where the other hitter was to come from 806 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: based on the way the market shaking out right now. 807 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: So this was just a move that simply had to happen. 808 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: And to one of John's points before, Brandon Nimmo has 809 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: now increased his swing rates. That means the percentage of 810 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: pitches he has swung on in one, two, three, four, five, 811 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: six consecutive years, he's been swinging more frequently. Saw this 812 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: year the first pitch swing jump up too, we've seen. 813 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: You know, some of that comes with Nimo's chase rate 814 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: rising too, but he still is one of the best 815 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: chase rates in all of baseball, even as it's rising. 816 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: A little bit selective aggression learning when he get learning 817 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: when he has a pitch to hit. How many times 818 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: in the last two years, where was there a pitching 819 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: change that happened late in the game and s and 820 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: one barely gets back to the game and there's a 821 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: ball sailing out to right field off brand Nemo's bad dude. 822 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 2: The Cardinals game, literally, like, that's the one that comes 823 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: right to mind, is the Cardinal game where all of 824 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 2: a sudden, the balls in the air. 825 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: And we're like, okay, the Mets are thin, they take 826 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: the lead. There's so many there's so many things that 827 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: brand Nemo is good at, and there's so many things 828 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: he's improving at, and there's just so many reasons why 829 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: he's going to be a very good player. That this was, 830 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: and you also saw just how robust his Marco was. 831 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: Every single team and their mother and on brand Nemo, 832 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: everybody wanted the piece of this guy. Like you, guys, 833 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: don't think that means that something good. No. 834 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 2: I also think it's really cool too that, like last 835 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 2: year we saw Brandon Nemo. I don't want to say 836 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 2: like necessarily be a leader more, but like be a 837 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: little bit more vocal right talking to the reporters and 838 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: pressed more, having you know more sound bites out there, 839 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: and one of the things he talked about is like, 840 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: Mets fans deserve this. I love playing for the Mets, 841 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: I love being here, and I feel like this. The 842 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 2: speed of which the contract was done, everything about this 843 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: just tells you that Brand Nemo was like, Oh, I 844 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: don't I don't want to leave. 845 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: I want to be a Met for the rest of 846 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: my life. I love it here. 847 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: Like everything about this is just it feels really good. 848 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 2: And I'm also really happy because I can now get 849 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 2: a Brandon Nemo jersey, one that I have wanted for 850 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: a while, and I know he's not going anywhere. When 851 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: this contract over, Brand Nema will have spent twenty years 852 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: in the Mets organization. 853 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: Wow, that's insane to think about. That's a lifetime. I mean, 854 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: that's like a full person growing up in the Mets organization. 855 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: That's like half of John's life right now in twenty years. Yeah, almost, 856 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: it's almost half of John's life. That's crazy. 857 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 4: You know, James, not to get too sidetracked from Brandon Nemo, 858 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 4: but you made a great analogy with the meat and 859 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 4: the bread, and I got me thinking, I need to 860 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 4: know when James Giano's going to the local Delhi. Well, 861 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 4: what it's on that perfect James Ciano sandwich. The listeners 862 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 4: need to know. 863 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: No bread because he's gluten free. That's d no. But 864 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: I have the time in my life where I was 865 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: a glutenist and I was really a really strong member 866 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: of the Delhi. My I don't know. My go to 867 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: deli sandwich has always been some some variation of a 868 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: sandwich that Mark and I grew up on. Okay, it 869 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: was called the Trinidad shout out her, she's in Westfield. 870 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: It was turkey, roast beef, lettuce, onions, tomato, Russian dressing. 871 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 3: It's a banger, okay. 872 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 4: All right, I mean those are those are kind of 873 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 4: mid meats. I think roast beef kind of made. 874 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: I like put together. I think they add a lot 875 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: to one another. Also, I mean I love a good 876 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: Italian always of course too. Those are probably the two 877 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: number ones. 878 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, A little gobb cool, never hurt anybody, you just 879 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 2: I like to just stack up the meats. No lettuce, 880 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 2: no tomato, no onions, no salt, pepper, whatever the anywhere 881 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 2: near a salad absolutely not. I just get meat, bread 882 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 2: and when I could eat cheese, some cheese on there, 883 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 2: which I'm desperately missing. 884 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: But shout out the old deli the Mark used to 885 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: live near. I'm not gonna say be cause I don't 886 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: want to docks him, but they made probably the best 887 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: raps in all of Queens. This would make unbelievable raps. 888 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: They had chicken cutlets, they had all kinds of toppings, 889 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: a great chipotle mayonnaise. Oh my god, many many a 890 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: day on the old Terrace were saved by a rap 891 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: from the from the deli. Whoever lives at Astoria, you 892 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: know what? 893 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 2: You know which one we're talking about, because if you've 894 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 2: been there and you go, that makes that makes a 895 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: good a good rap over? 896 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: Are there multiple. 897 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 3: Locations that maybe? 898 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 2: I mean? 899 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 4: I'm you know, I'll ask you guys after because I'm 900 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 4: looking into a story right now and I'm trying to 901 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 4: really get the sense of like what's good, what's not? 902 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 4: You know, the good restaurants where I want to be. 903 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 3: So you piqued my interest. 904 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: Here we'll have John. 905 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 2: If you actually came out with us the night that 906 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 2: we won in the playoffs, you know you would have 907 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 2: been able to see a story a lot. 908 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 4: Sorry, it was two am and I had to be 909 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 4: back at the stadium at ten am the next. 910 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: Morning, forty year old man. Excuse again, coming. Here's a 911 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: good hint though, the name of this deli, there's probably 912 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: conservatively about fourteen fifteen thousand delis in New York City 913 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: with the exact same name. Well, we could say that 914 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: name Gourmet Deli. Yeah, it's the Gourmet Deli it Yeah, 915 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: then you could pinpoint me and Mark's old department by that, 916 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: which no one lives anymore. So good to look trying 917 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: to find us. Well, someone lives there, just not us. Yeah. 918 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 1: There's also one more move that the Mets made last 919 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: week that kind of got lost in the shuffle of 920 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: our record, I think in our posting the last episode, 921 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: and that was in the Rule five draft. We picked 922 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: up relief pitcher from the Yankees organization, Zach Green. So 923 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: him being picked, what was it were we had? What 924 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: conversation were we having? 925 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily remember what it was, but we were 926 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 2: talking with each other live while this was happening. And 927 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 2: you saw this and your reaction, you would have thought 928 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 2: that we just like we just signed Brandon Nimo. 929 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: You're like, the BET's got Zach Green. 930 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 2: It was like you were ecstatic, so I'm excited to 931 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 2: hear what you gotta say about him. 932 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I did some I had with some 933 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: notes on the Rule five draft last week that just 934 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: got kind of lost in the shuffle. But he had 935 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: either the highest or one of the highest drag guy 936 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: rates that were available in the Rule five draft, and 937 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 1: it was all at Triple A thirty three point three 938 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: percent strike gut rate. Last year in Triple A couple 939 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: of within eleven percent walk right, But that's why the 940 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: guy's available in the Rule five draft, one ninety nine 941 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: bating average against last year in Triple A. He was 942 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: a full time relief pitcher, but he was very commonly 943 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: used in multi ning azings. He had forty appearances in 944 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: about sixty innings, just to give you guys the sense 945 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: of what he has. And he has one of these 946 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: super funky, unique fastballs that comes from this kind of 947 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: low arms, but he still has the ride and a 948 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: little bit of cut on it. So because it comes 949 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: from that low armslot, the ride kind of looks more sinister, 950 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: I guess, I want to say. And it had very 951 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: high whiff rates, especially in terms of minor league swings 952 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: and misses for fastballs that were under ninety five miles 953 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: an hour, and then he throws the the new Yankee 954 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: Dodger patented sweeper pitch I mentioned before to give you 955 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: guys the jargon of it. It's thrown like a slitherer, 956 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: but it has a fancy term called gyro spin, which 957 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: means that the way the ball actually spins in the 958 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: air is different than the way the ball spins off 959 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: the fingers. That's the best I could way I can 960 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: describe it, because it's well above my pay grade. But 961 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: those two pitches get tons of whiffs. He also mixes 962 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 1: it in a change up and a color that aren't as good, 963 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: but they're both passable. And since we took him in 964 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: the Rule five draft, that means we have to give 965 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: him back unless he spends the entire year on our 966 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: twenty six man roster. So the Mets picked Zach Green, 967 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: a team that doesn't exactly have the most roster spots 968 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 1: available up for grabs right now, with a full intention 969 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 1: of him being in their bullpen for the entire year, 970 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: and I think there's a good chance that he becomes 971 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: at least a medium leverage be team reliever. 972 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 2: For us there's another form Yankee prospect that was taken 973 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 2: in the Rule five draft recently that I know always 974 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 2: had some great success. James, you want to fill the 975 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 2: viewers in on who that could be. 976 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: It's Garrett Whitlock, probably one of the ten fifteen most 977 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: effective relievers in all baseball over the last two years. 978 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: The Yankees just have such a glut of pitching prospects 979 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: right now. We saw them trade like seven of them 980 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: away at the last trade deadline, probably twelve away over 981 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: the last two years. Been all the trades they've made, 982 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 1: and they still just have so many of these guys. 983 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: And they're really good at teaching these guys either sinkers 984 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: that make you go cross eyed or the rising fastball. 985 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 1: And they all have this wicked sweeper that pitch that's 986 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: really good at both missing bats and getting low eggs 987 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: of velasty contact on them. So I think, as Zach 988 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: Green in terms of a Rule five draft pick has 989 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: a relatively high floor and someone that think will a 990 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: little bit tweaking, a little bit maneuvering, even just hiding him, 991 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: maybe just acas the bad teams at first, letting him 992 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: get up to speed. It could be a gem. My 993 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: phone just buzzed. 994 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 2: I think I'm getting PTSD from when we finished recordings 995 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,919 Speaker 2: and something happens afterwards. I was like, did something just happen? 996 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 2: My phone's buzzing. No notifications, no moves have been made, 997 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 2: but there has. 998 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 3: Been a move. And this is a sad one for me. Actually, 999 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 3: who's this? 1000 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 4: John Hayman tweets and the team confirms always fell when 1001 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 4: that happens. 1002 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: Wait, did it just happen? 1003 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 3: I just know it was like ten minutes ago. I'm 1004 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 3: checking my phone for the first time. Anyway, are you 1005 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 3: really yeah? 1006 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,479 Speaker 1: Of course, all. 1007 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 4: Right, I guess I can. I guess I can see it. Anyway, 1008 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 4: Ryan Yarborough has been signed by the Kansas City Royals, 1009 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 4: thus thus ending, thus ending my personal offseason pursuit. But 1010 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 4: you know, when you look at the forty man roster 1011 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 4: on the Mets website right now, there are a lot 1012 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 4: of bullpen options, and James, I have a question for 1013 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 4: you. You're very well versed in this. Another Yankee that was 1014 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 4: kind of a casualty of their forty man crunch with 1015 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 4: Stephen Ridings who Waivers did not make it through. Waivers 1016 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 4: was claimed by the Mets. Now, what I understand about 1017 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 4: Ridings is he is. He's a flamethrower. So I guess, James, 1018 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 4: my question for you and for you to talk to 1019 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 4: fans about the differences between Green and Ridings. Obviously, the 1020 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 4: Mets need to keep Green on the roster, like you mentioned, 1021 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 4: for them to retain his services throughout the season, So 1022 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 4: maybe he has a leg up over Ridings, who I'm assuming. 1023 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 4: I'm not sure his option situation. 1024 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: Rythings has three options. Writhings throws significantly harder, and he 1025 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: has good he has good physics on that fastball too, 1026 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: and he has a good slither. I'm not sure if 1027 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: he's the same sweeper. I'm not as well versus on Rithing's. 1028 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: Riding's also a little bit older. He's only twenty seven 1029 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: years old. I believe Green was just twenty five. Riting's 1030 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: also much bigger. Ritings is six foot eight, which is 1031 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 1: that really helps him bear down on Hithers. Rydings also 1032 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: is coming off an injury where I believe he only 1033 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: pitched that page just lowan. He only pushed two winnings 1034 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: last year right across all levels the naked systems. So 1035 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 1: I think Rithing' is probably a guy more of a project, 1036 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: more of a guy we're gonna have to nurse along, 1037 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: but probably more potential Sam mc williams. I guess, yeah, 1038 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: Sam mcwienside. But he's bigger than McWilliams, and he had 1039 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: more pedigree when he was coming up, more so than McWilliams. 1040 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 1: Like Rithing's on, Fangres has a seventy grade fastball. You 1041 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: don't see seventy grades often. They should not be taken lightly. 1042 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 1: He's a guy who if things all click, and it's 1043 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: probably not even the highest chance of that, but it's 1044 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: definitely possible, just based on what we have from right now. 1045 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: If it does click, you could be looking at the 1046 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: potential monster. But over the last couple of years even 1047 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: looks like actually, in his entire entire professional career, he's 1048 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: only thrown twenty ten five two less than fifty innings 1049 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: above a ball. I believe there's a lot of stuff there, 1050 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 1: but he's also twenty years old. These big pictures sometimes 1051 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: take long as develop. It's someone that's possible and someone 1052 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: who I like that we have in the mix, along 1053 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: with someone we talk about a few episodes ago. Jeff Brigham, 1054 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: who's coming in with minor league options from the Marlins, 1055 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,800 Speaker 1: has given length in the past and has an elite 1056 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 1: slyther Eliezer Hernandez, who's someone is going to be probably 1057 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 1: this year's Trevor Williams along with Joey Lukezi sharing that 1058 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: role once he's healthy, once they're both healthy. Who doesn't 1059 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: throw that hard? These really good limiting hard contact. When 1060 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: I became obsessed with eliez Or Hernandez few years ago 1061 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: because he pushed an entire season in the PCL with 1062 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: the juice ball and give up zero home runs, I 1063 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. Like for a guy to do that, 1064 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. The PCL is the Triple A League out West, 1065 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: like tons of teams have crazy altitudes like every almost 1066 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: have to stadium's a like course field. This guy gave 1067 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 1: up no home runs whole season out there. Ridiculous stuff. 1068 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: So I think I'm really I'm really happy, proud and 1069 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: encouraged by how this Mets front office has built bullpen 1070 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: and pitching depth in just such a very short time 1071 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: ass offseason definitely my biggest concern going in and they 1072 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 1: passed it with ridiculously flying colors. 1073 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 2: Like a lot of these names in the Bullbend, you 1074 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 2: guys might not be familiar with yet, but you will 1075 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 2: find out about them soon, like just going through Like 1076 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 2: you said, John, I think that was a good thing 1077 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 2: to bring up. Like Jeff Brigham, We've talked about James 1078 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 2: really like some John Curtis, formerly with the Rays Brewers 1079 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 2: smart pitching teams. That was a fun story about John 1080 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 2: Curtis when I went to the World Series in Texas 1081 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 2: during the COVID year, sitting out on the outfield before 1082 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 2: the game watching VP, John Curtis might be one of 1083 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 2: the sneaky best athletes I've seen in a while on 1084 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 2: a baseball field. He was robbing home runs like Kevin 1085 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 2: Kiermier during VP like it was nothing. 1086 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. 1087 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe how good he was at tracking balls 1088 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 2: and how easy he was climbing the fence. Incredible athlete 1089 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 2: like that. You mentioned Eliezer Hernandez. Joan Lopez is still 1090 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 2: around the folk legend. Hopefully we can see him a 1091 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 2: little bit more too. You mentioned lukez McGill, Bryce Montes 1092 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 2: de Oca. We know his stuff was crazy electric last year. 1093 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 1: Negosu looked good at times. 1094 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 2: Brooks Raley, the left handed reliever who's gonna be our 1095 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 2: lefty specialist good stuff. Taylor Sawsato, I don't know as 1096 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 2: much on him, but I know James had some good things. 1097 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,479 Speaker 2: And William Woods, the guy that they got from the Braves, 1098 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 2: another guy who's got good stuff. So it at least 1099 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 2: if you're a Mets fan, you see the process the 1100 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 2: Mets are thinking right now, and you've got to be 1101 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 2: encouraged because these are things that you see the Dodgers, 1102 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 2: the Rays, the Brewers, the three smart team and the 1103 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 2: Ashers I guess too, three four smart teams in baseball 1104 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 2: in terms of pitching and especially getting the most out 1105 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 2: of just random guys in the bullpen. 1106 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 1: This is all guys that they would be interested in, 1107 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: which you gotta love to say. The last two seasons 1108 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: that John Curtis pitched, he had a strike guy raid 1109 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: over twenty four percent, which is a hair Highland League average, 1110 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: and just a four percent walk rate between twenty twenty 1111 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 1: and twenty twenty one, when he was pitching very well. 1112 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: Between the I believe it was a raise and I 1113 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: think the Brewers and one more team, I think the 1114 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 1: Marlins took a pass at him and he starts to 1115 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 1: not pitch that well. There there's ninety five mile an 1116 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: hour fastball with decent ride and he throws a slide there. 1117 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: It has a two play movement. This guy, he was 1118 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: one of those moves that the Mets signed last year, 1119 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: just a guy who they're gonna let them rehab one 1120 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: year with time of John surgery, then pitch the next year. 1121 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: Where it was like, oh, the process is different now. 1122 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: This is something that the Mets of old would have 1123 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: never done. Pay a guy for a full year not 1124 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: to play, just you haven't for cheap the next year 1125 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: the second that move happened to us. But I think 1126 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: when Coffin started to build for people were paying very 1127 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,280 Speaker 1: close attention. I think that just the way they built 1128 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,839 Speaker 1: all of these guys out, we didn't even just mention 1129 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: Brooks Rayley, who's a guy that Mets picked up for 1130 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: a single A pitcher in Keishawan sq who's good pitcher, 1131 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 1: good prospect. I think he was already twenty one years old, 1132 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: twenty two years old, still in low way. It was 1133 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: gonna take a very big was gonna take a very 1134 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: long time develop. Brook Rayley is a guy who just 1135 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: is coming off of a completely elite, elite season as 1136 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: a left handed reliever, and get guys out both sides 1137 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 1: of the plate like him and Robertson and Drew Smith 1138 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,879 Speaker 1: are kind of are have kind of become the eighth 1139 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,240 Speaker 1: inning guys. Now is the bridge to Edwin Dias. Perhaps 1140 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,280 Speaker 1: there's another guy who fills in that role and comes through, 1141 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 1: maybe mcgil or Peterson, depending on how the rotation depth 1142 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: shakes out, become elite relievers. I think they both have 1143 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: that skill set within them. There's a lot of options 1144 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: right here. Doesn't look like how probably we will think 1145 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: about bullpen's how we thought about bullpens for a long time. 1146 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: It's Mets fans, but this is how the bullpens look 1147 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: of the best teams in baseball, and that I think 1148 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: is something that we can all hang our hats on. 1149 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. 1150 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 2: Fun fact about Stephen Ridings as well, James, he played 1151 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 2: against a couple kids that we went to high school 1152 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,879 Speaker 2: with because he played He's a D three baseball guy 1153 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 2: Haverford College. And when I was talking to Mike Andracona 1154 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 2: and Brad d. Martinez shoutut to guys who played baseball 1155 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 2: within high school, they were mentioning how Haverford was a 1156 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 2: powerhouse and they had this one massive pitcher that threw 1157 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 2: absolute gas and had a devastating slider that nobody could touch. 1158 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: And that guy Stephen Ridings. 1159 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 2: Just for some clarification, he had the two six r 1160 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 2: in college and he was he was filthy. 1161 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 1: We also sneaky pull Jimmy Ackabonis. You guys forgot to 1162 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: mention him too. We got Jimmy Yakobonas. Yeah, I think 1163 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,839 Speaker 1: we picked him up off waivers a few weeks ago, 1164 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 1: I want to say was last week twelve seven. So 1165 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: in the minor league contract with the Mets. He is 1166 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: not on the forty man Okay, yeah, it's a minor 1167 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: league contract. He's Jimmy Ackabonas has some giftable pitches. 1168 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 2: If you will, Okay, that a little Pitchington Jackson action 1169 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 2: on Jimmy Akabonus. I feel like we talked about him 1170 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 2: a little bit last year too, where I was like, 1171 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 2: I didn't know Jimmy yakabone has had it like that. 1172 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 1: I think it was that one that one of those 1173 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: things with the Marlins where he just like to recover. 1174 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: We're like, what the help? What is that? This is 1175 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: some stuff here? Yeah? I like everything the Mets are doing. 1176 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 2: I think This offseason has been really really good, especially 1177 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 2: when it could have It could have been a nightmare 1178 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,320 Speaker 2: off season. It could have been really really bad, especially 1179 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:24,879 Speaker 2: when it got started with Jacob b Grom leaving. 1180 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 1: Like that's two Mets fans. You see that. You hear that, 1181 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, here we go again. 1182 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,839 Speaker 2: But I think everything that's gone on since then has 1183 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 2: shown you Mets aren't playing games. Mets are looking to 1184 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 2: win now and they are. They're putting a damn good 1185 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 2: team out there, that's for sure. 1186 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, and apologize all the listeners out there for us 1187 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: just nerding out on random bullpen names. So that's like 1188 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,720 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes me especially, But this is why they listened 1189 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: to us. This is winning baseball, baby, This is why 1190 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 1: they listened to us. 1191 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 3: This is how you win. 1192 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 4: The Houston Astros came up with guys that people have 1193 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 4: not heard of, one after the other out of that 1194 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 4: pen in October, and it's how you win when you 1195 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 4: start over paying for your bullpen help. We've seen the 1196 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 4: Mets go down on that road in the past. We've 1197 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 4: seen other teams go down on that road in the past. 1198 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: Is one famous there's there, Frank Francis, Yeah, Yeah, there's. 1199 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 4: Here's a non net one. B J Ryan an absolute disaster. 1200 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,479 Speaker 4: Or Chad Bradford after his career year. 1201 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,359 Speaker 1: Was the guy named Kobe something? He signed a big deal. 1202 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 3: Remember Ray signed a big deal. 1203 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: So you can see who went, Oh k Hill know 1204 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 1: someone to see you ups in the Blue Jays. What 1205 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 1: was his name with the Blue Jays? Oh? Oh oh 1206 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: Brett cecil Brett, Yeah, twelve yep. 1207 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,839 Speaker 4: I mean, look the Rafael Montero contract. I know it 1208 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 4: was signed. That was back in middle of October, actually 1209 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,959 Speaker 4: mid November, after the World Series. Excuse me, that's got 1210 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 4: that's got blow up ridden all over it. 1211 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 3: That worries me. 1212 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 4: That contract worries me. You should usually have a GM 1213 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 4: to handle those sorts of things. 1214 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 1: But I mean, I think that was the coolest thing. 1215 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,359 Speaker 1: Going back to David robertson contract, Like while he's thirty 1216 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: eight years old and is coming off for a year, 1217 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 1: he was mostly good but very sneaky, had like a 1218 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: thirty percent walk right for the trades of the Phillies. 1219 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 1: He it's only one year deal. The worst case scenario, 1220 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: he stinks and we'll smegle either worst case scenario, not 1221 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: them expecting that at all. I think it is gonna be 1222 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 1: good so as we can get that control back. But 1223 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: that is, they've really done a really amazing job of 1224 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: mitigating their risk. Like the only two risky moves that 1225 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,359 Speaker 1: they've made technically risky contracts have been more than five 1226 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 1: years where Nimo and Sanga right, and even Sanga has 1227 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 1: opt outs after years three and four. So if he's 1228 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 1: good enough, yeah, I'll probably walk away. And even even 1229 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 1: if he can't stuff in the rotation, which I don't 1230 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: think is likely. You just got the relievers throw ninety 1231 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: seven with a wicked forkball worst case scenario, and we 1232 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 1: still got Drew Chains. We still got Drew Chains. Who's 1233 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 1: got the nasty stuff? 1234 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 2: So I mean, I feel really really confident about how 1235 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 2: the Mets look right now, and I honestly don't think 1236 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 2: they're done. I feel like they could be cooking up 1237 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 2: something more. I don't know, but I feel like it. 1238 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: I guess we'll close with this because in the last 1239 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,400 Speaker 1: like forty eight hours, there's been a there's been a 1240 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: shocking amount of smoke to another other former aster. We're 1241 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 1: talking about the Asters right now. One perhaps, yeah, one 1242 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,400 Speaker 1: short side potential third baseman whose market looks like it 1243 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: might kind of be a little bit drier than a 1244 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: lot of people expected, like it was last year too, 1245 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,439 Speaker 1: which was weird. Yeah, maybe maybe I don't know. Maybe 1246 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 1: maybe it's just something about him and his role with 1247 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 1: all the other stuff that happened with that team. But 1248 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 1: their report came out today that the Giants seemed to 1249 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,320 Speaker 1: have transitioned from Carlos Korea to looking at Dansby Swanson, 1250 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 1: which is an interesting, interesting decision one I don't know 1251 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,439 Speaker 1: if I would agree with as as a bit as 1252 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 1: like a member of the front office. But if no 1253 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 1: one's giving Carlos care a long deal, I'll give him 1254 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: a short one. 1255 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 2: Very easily, right, three for ninety again, just like the 1256 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 2: Twins did with the opt outs. Who says, no, once 1257 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 2: you go, once you go past the level that we're at, 1258 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,920 Speaker 2: it's it's everything's fair game here. 1259 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,800 Speaker 1: Every dollar cost to Steve coins by seventeen bill. 1260 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 2: Leave you guys with this, the Mets, with the Steve 1261 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 2: Cohen tax and all going over the luxury tax threshold. 1262 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 2: I think they're going to pay about eighty million in 1263 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 2: penalties is roughly the number I think, and that is four. 1264 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 1: To twenty million dollars total sala. 1265 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,359 Speaker 3: Which is high, which is really high. 1266 00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's more than any professional sports team 1267 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 1: has ever ever called. 1268 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,919 Speaker 2: Yes, and the tax that he's gonna pay in terms 1269 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,319 Speaker 2: of penalties is more than I think, like eight or 1270 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,320 Speaker 2: nine of the teams in Major League Baseball's total payroll, 1271 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 2: like the Rays, the Orioles, the Pirates, the Reds, like 1272 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 2: you can guess the teams. But if that doesn't make 1273 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 2: you feel good as a Mets fan, I don't where 1274 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,359 Speaker 2: have you've been? Where have you been the last twenty years? 1275 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 2: Because you should be you should be balved, you should 1276 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:18,840 Speaker 2: be excited. 1277 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 4: You know what the best part of it is. You 1278 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 4: know what the best part of it is is the 1279 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 4: Yankee fans who are twisting themselves in the mental pretzel. 1280 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,399 Speaker 4: We're not just Yankee fans. You see it from Braves fans. 1281 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 4: You see from Phillies fans that are just digging into 1282 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 4: the deepest recesses of their souls to hate and just 1283 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 4: try to convince themselves. 1284 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 3: And you keep hearing the oh. 1285 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 4: Well, you spent all this pony and you're actually not 1286 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 4: that much better than you were last year, like okay, two. 1287 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,719 Speaker 1: Hundred and one games. It's hard to be better than them. 1288 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 4: Of course they did, and this rotation is in a 1289 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 4: better place than it was last year. And anyone that 1290 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 4: cannot understand that, it's yes, James and. 1291 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 1: The bench people say, yeah, this team didn't improve. What 1292 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 1: do you mean the team didn't improve. This team not 1293 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,439 Speaker 1: an ADWRC plus the other DH is all of last year. 1294 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: This is like the fourth time we're going to say 1295 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 1: this is something else we're gonna leave you guys with. 1296 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 1: I think a big part of spending all this money 1297 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,320 Speaker 1: means that there's more pressure on guys who will produce 1298 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: for free. Those two guys as we're going to head 1299 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 1: close to this season are Brett Bay and Francisco Alvarez, 1300 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: two of the consensus top twenty, top thirty prospects, Alvarez 1301 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 1: top five, top ten prospect in all of baseball, two 1302 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 1: of the best rated prospects of their respective positions of 1303 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 1: catcher in third base, two positions where the Mets probably 1304 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,919 Speaker 1: could use a little bit of assistance in the coming 1305 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,400 Speaker 1: year probably the coming years after that. To have all 1306 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 1: this money invested in all these different players but none 1307 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 1: of them to be really invested that far down the line, 1308 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: you need a short term burst of production from guys 1309 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 1: who don't cost anything, guys with high ceilings, Guys who 1310 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 1: even right now, the earliest projections, the Seamer projections on 1311 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 1: fangrafs are projected to be between ten and twenty percent 1312 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,319 Speaker 1: better than the league average. It's a lot better than 1313 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: the twenty percent worse in league average the Mets were 1314 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: if their at DH last year thirty or forty percent 1315 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,840 Speaker 1: league average, they were a catcher. Those two guys have 1316 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: become monumentally important to the way this team works, and 1317 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 1: I think that Mets fans should be excited about what 1318 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: they both bring to the table. One percent. 1319 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 2: We've seen the Astros get crazy, crazy production out of 1320 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 2: their random rookie every single year that ends up being 1321 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:06,919 Speaker 2: that guy. 1322 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 1: How about the Mets do it this year? 1323 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,800 Speaker 2: And I think it's totally possible with the young talent 1324 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,320 Speaker 2: that we do have that's ready to play at the 1325 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 2: major league level right now. I don't think there's anything 1326 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 2: else to talk about though in this episode, I think 1327 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 2: we pretty much covered it. It's how refreshing is it 1328 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,800 Speaker 2: to talk about me Mets baseball. We have a media 1329 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 2: episode that wasn't filled with James as much as I 1330 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 2: love it, Chad cool talk you know we got the turk. 1331 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 3: Turkey is a bad feeling for a sandwich. It's a terrible. 1332 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,879 Speaker 1: Turkey turkey cold cuts. Hey, come on, what beats the turkey? 1333 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,880 Speaker 4: Any other meat? Any other meat? Pashrami, corn beef. I 1334 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:37,840 Speaker 4: mean those are those. 1335 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,280 Speaker 1: Are two pastrami and corn beef. Where you're going to Delhi? 1336 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 1: He's getting City Field nineteen dollars sandwich. I'm buying one 1337 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: for seven. 1338 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, you were there said it was the best thing 1339 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,320 Speaker 4: he ever rate. You're and you're trying to sell me turkey. 1340 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I will love keep Astromi cats Is on Saturday. 1341 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,759 Speaker 1: I'm being quite honest with you, but I swear the 1342 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,799 Speaker 1: guy actually had something. This happens. We live in New York. 1343 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 1: You get these kind of privileges theoretically, Yeah, I mean 1344 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: maybe in terms of long terms of time and distance. 1345 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 2: All right, we've got too much sandwich. Talk out everyone, 1346 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 2: everyone's tuned out. Let's wrap it up here, boy, is 1347 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 2: your guys' favorite sandwich is? In the replies, Yes, leave 1348 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,800 Speaker 2: a review of what sandwich we should try out on 1349 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 2: the next episode Live for you guys. But for listening 1350 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 2: to the story, they keep the mets up sticker on 1351 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,280 Speaker 2: Graham Avenue and Williamsburg in their window. 1352 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 1: Big Mets fans supports of the podcast shout out to them. 1353 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,240 Speaker 2: Thank you guys for listening, Thank you for watching. 1354 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: We appreciate you. 1355 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:32,800 Speaker 2: Make sure you following us on all our social media 1356 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 2: at Mets up on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok go. 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