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Speaker 1: I hated garbage, absolutely unhinged, Like why were we doing this?

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Speaker 2: It was unhinged? Better More, a little more better.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to More Better, a podcast where we stop pretending

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Speaker 3: to have it all together and embrace the journey of

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Speaker 2: Day, or at least trying to. That's Stephanie Beatrice. And

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Speaker 2: that's Melissa. And that's to you. Who are you?

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Speaker 2: That's Melissa. I could be anyone you want me to be, stef.

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Speaker 1: Starting off real strong? Uh, that's most of a marrow.

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Speaker 1: You may know her from television, film and.

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Speaker 1: And it's okay, but today she's co hosting this podcast

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Speaker 2: How's it going? Man? I'm I'm on, I'm I'm you're

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Speaker 1: I got sick last week. I went to a concert

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Speaker 3: I am doing pretty good. I am in Atlanta. We

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Speaker 3: Knock on all the wood, knock on all the wood.

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Speaker 1: I know too much, and I don't want to be here.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's harder to do on on Instagram. But I

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Speaker 3: Artists on Instagram and like different galleries and stuff, so

445
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 3: I try to Yeah, so that's a more pleasant experience.

446
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: We decide note we should do a more better episode

447
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 1: of getting better at like art and art appreciation, because

448
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: I really feel like you have an inner art artist,

449
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 1: not critic, but like art appreciative person in there, and

450
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 1: I want to learn more from that.

451
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 2: I think we should do that. That'd be fun.

452
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: I think, oh, thanks, Oh gosh, I would feel like

453
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,919
Speaker 1: I would have to study up because no, you know,

454
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: like I feel like I know so little, but yeah.

455
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 3: I uh so.

456
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

457
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 3: And then you know, there's a part of like social

458
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 3: media that like we have to do it for our jobs,

459
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 3: and it's kind of part of the gig. It's expected.

460
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 3: It sometimes helps us get jobs. It sometimes is another

461
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 3: source of revenue and income for us, which saved me

462
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 3: during the pandemic during the strike when I wasn't making

463
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 3: any money as an actor and I got a couple

464
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 3: of things on social media that were you know, nice paychecks.

465
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 3: It just helped us in that moment, in those grateful

466
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 3: for yours. I'm so grateful for that, my god, pandemic,

467
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 3: Thank you, Butterfinger. But and yeah, so it's it's you know,

468
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 3: so it's like kind of a job. Also, it's like

469
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 3: a part time job, you know, making sure our social

470
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: media is like active and interesting and you know, promoting

471
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 3: the things we want people to know about also giving

472
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 3: like little parts of ourselves. So it's like I feel

473
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 3: like we have a different relationship with it maybe than

474
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 3: most people.

475
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like an element of of well, I don't know.

476
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: You know, that's a good, really good question because like nowadays,

477
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: so many people are actually getting audiences and true creating

478
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: their own like success through social media. You know, whether

479
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: it's like family that is, like talking about their parenting

480
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: struggles and like suddenly you know, like blogging with our kid,

481
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 1: which you know is its own thing.

482
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 2: But like, yeah, or I just saw this video this.

483
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: I just saw this video this morning of this guy

484
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 3: who quit his court, his job and Corporate America and

485
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 3: then opened a restaurant and opened two more, but like

486
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: the two of them failed, and then he tried to

487
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 3: go back to Corporate America and couldn't get a job.

488
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 3: And then he decided they were like burning through their

489
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 3: savings and he decided, well, I'll just cook all of

490
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 3: our meals and then he just recorded them.

491
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 2: He's like this amazing cook.

492
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 3: And gained a huge following and he was like and

493
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 3: during all this his wife had a baby, and my god, stood, yeah,

494
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 3: and so his videos are really sweet. He's like, you know,

495
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 3: pulling up carts up to his wife as she's like

496
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 3: holding their new boarn and like showing everything he made

497
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: for her, and it's like very wholesome and he yeah,

498
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 3: and now he and then you know, sponsors started coming

499
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 3: in and he started making money from it, and they're

500
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: like getting back on their feet, and I was like,

501
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: that's amazing.

502
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: There's a chef, the hot chef that I watch on TikTok.

503
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: I think his name, I think his handle is sad Boppy,

504
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: and he's like very fun to watch, and I think

505
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: he's like a cookbook coming out, you know, Like there

506
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: are people, there are many more people that are actually

507
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 1: dealing with social media in the way that we have

508
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 1: to deal with it as if it's part social and

509
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: part business venture. And I think like that is an

510
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: additional amount of pressure because it's like, oh, how do

511
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: I monetize this, you know, like sharing about my life?

512
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: Like it's a lot of a lot of pressure.

513
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 3: It's a lot and I think the people that do

514
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 3: it right are, like you just said, like the people

515
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: that use it as a stepping stone, you know what

516
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 3: I mean that then build up to something else because

517
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 3: you never know when the audience is going to get

518
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 3: tired of you, you know, and like.

519
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: Just saying maybe they'll never get tired of you.

520
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: Out buddy, But I feel like it's stay funny, say.

521
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 3: No, I just think it's such a crowded market that,

522
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 3: like you said, like that chef making a cookbook to

523
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: me is so smart. That's like such a smart way

524
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 3: to do it. It's like the same way you and

525
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: I have like tried to get into directing, producing and

526
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 3: voiceover and like other things, right, and keep what else

527
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,239
Speaker 3: can we do? How do we build on this and

528
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 3: not just like do the one thing? You know, that's

529
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 3: all I was trying to say, No, that's real.

530
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: That's real. I knew what you meant. I knew what

531
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 2: you meant. I think it's like there.

532
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: Are positive a lot of positive I mean, I'm talking

533
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 1: about like a lot of negative things, but now we're

534
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: talking about a positive thing, right. Like another thing that

535
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 1: I think is really positive about my kid another my

536
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: kid is off waving to me on the side. Another

537
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 1: thing that I think is really positive about social media

538
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: is like I think it's a way to connect with

539
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: people that are unlike you. That yeah, can offer you

540
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: a glimpse into their lives that you might not get

541
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: in a different kind in a world that was smaller, right,

542
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: Like it's there's a lot of like learning and education

543
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 1: that you can get off of social I mean without

544
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: I'll be very honest, without TikTok, I would not be

545
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: as patient as I am with my chiddler because there's

546
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:20,239
Speaker 1: all these like child psychiatrists and psychologists and like, you know,

547
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: people that are helping.

548
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 2: It, like even like miss Rachel, I mean people like.

549
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: That, like on social on the internet that are helping

550
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: you with your kid, that are like going like you

551
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: actually have a lot more patients than you think you know,

552
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: or you're like guiding me toward these like hard conversations

553
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: or whatever in different ways. Like in that way, the

554
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: connectivity of social media is very very cool.

555
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: And also like there's a.

556
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: Lot of creativity there. I mean, what is that show

557
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: English Teacher that is a new comedy that I think

558
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: is hilarious and he started basically on TikTok.

559
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: There's a ton of.

560
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: People whose creativity has been discovered through TikTok and through

561
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: other social media. It's like a connects you to your

562
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: audience in a way that like, I mean, especially for people, like,

563
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I just saw yesterday I'm doing press with

564
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: Ted Danson for the show that we have coming out,

565
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: and like he's mesmerized by social media partially because it

566
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: gives you access to people that like your work and

567
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: that will talk to you about it like one on one,

568
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: And it's so cool.

569
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: That part is so charming.

570
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I mean, I can't you know, I'm sure

571
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: you have many a story of people reaching out to

572
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: you and being like, I never.

573
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: Saw myself on TV until you. I love the character

574
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: you play. I appreciate your work, I appreciate what you

575
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: put out in the world, and like none of that

576
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: would happen without the connectivity of social media. Like it's

577
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: quite cool in that way.

578
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: It has Yeah, it has its pluses, It has its plus,

579
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: it has its pluses, it has its pluses. Do you

580
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 3: like post or like, how do you I feel like,

581
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: I'm I feel like you're really good at social media? Honey,

582
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: say I know you're also married to Brad. Have a

583
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: social manage it, Brad? Yes, he is the one I

584
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: approve of all posts. I approve of all most of

585
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: the time I write to.

586
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: Hire Brad you might need to, might need harem Like that's.

587
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: What he used to do for people. I mean, he

588
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: helped build a lot of brands and stuff. And like

589
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: he will write, he'll write a caption and I'll be like, no,

590
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: that's not funny. I need to rewrite that caption, you know.

591
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: Or like he'll say, we're gonna post this thing, Uh,

592
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: what's the caption?

593
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: And then I'll write it. And I look at comments

594
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: a lot because he'll share them with me, especially like

595
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: the really positive ones. But it's helpful to have somebody

596
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: screen that stuff for you because sometimes people can be

597
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: really ugly too, you know.

598
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: Yes, And I don't need to. I mean, in the

599
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: very big.

600
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: I do get satisfaction from like deleting negative comments and

601
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: or being like mute.

602
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: I love that block block and the block block block

603
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: all day long.

604
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Okay, Nerd time, I thought this was really interesting. Yeah,

605
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: this is from okay, hold on, uh, the risks versus

606
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: a reward, the social dilemma, social media and your mental health.

607
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: Like it or not, using social media can cause anxiety, depression,

608
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: and other health challenges. I know we've all heard this, right,

609
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: we know, I know we've all heard it. But the

610
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: thing that we got to I think like that we

611
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: got to remember is that social is built to provide you.

612
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: A dopamine hit.

613
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: Like someone like my photo, someone responded to me, how

614
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: many likes did I get? You know, it's that like

615
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: it's that sort of like boo, that little feeling of like,

616
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: oh a little a little boo, a little something right.

617
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: And the problem with engaging I think personally, I think

618
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: engaging too much with that is that you forget that

619
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: you can find those dopamine hits, like in your life.

620
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: You know, you can find them from something that you

621
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just thinking about myself. It's like, oh,

622
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm proud of myself. Oh I'm grateful. Oh, you know,

623
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: like I just think it's it can be a really

624
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: scary way to train your brain into thinking that that's

625
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: the only way to get that hit of dopamine. And

626
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: that's the that's the that's a crummy part of it.

627
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: And it's like there's studies you guys, like World Psychiatry

628
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: did this study and like research shows that heavy social

629
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: media uses linked with memory deficits.

630
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: Surprise, surprise, this one was crazy to me. Yeah.

631
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: It basically said that if you if you post a

632
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: story or a picture of event, like, you're less likely

633
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: to really remember it in your mind's eye. That is

634
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 3: so because your brain is like, no, it's stored somewhere else.

635
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: That is such a rough, rough, rough thing.

636
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: Like And as someone who has a terrible memory, this

637
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: one hit me hard because but you know what, I

638
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 3: realize I've always had a bad memory. And I realized

639
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: when I was very little, I took a lot of

640
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: photos and I kept a lot of photo albums. Oh,

641
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: because that's how I remembered trips. Like my mom, it

642
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 3: blows her mind. She'll be like, remember when we went

643
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 3: to Dominican Republic when you were eight and we did this?

644
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: And I'm like no, oh, And she's like, how do

645
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: you not remember? And I'm like, because I don't, Oh

646
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: my god. But if I took a picture of it,

647
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 3: if it's in a photo album, you remember, I probably

648
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 3: remember it well because then you can leaf through it, right.

649
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: Like. The other weird thing about social is that it's

650
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: in this like weird. I mean, we talked about it

651
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: a little bit, but it's in like a photo album

652
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: in the ether somewhere that like, yes, where is it?

653
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: It's not like a tangible. You know, sometimes I worry

654
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: about that, like you know, when the grid ud all

655
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: comes down, there's no like I don't have a book

656
00:32:59,280 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: of this stuff.

657
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: It's just right, am I gonna be like what the

658
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: fuck did I do?

659
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: And what I do?

660
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa? What what happened?

661
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Speaker 3: You know, like I don't be any one day and

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Speaker 3: being like I don't remember my twenties and thirty at all.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has that one friend that I'm just thinking about, like,

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Speaker 1: oh well, not name names, but I'm just thinking about

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Speaker 1: like like, for example, like what that last time that

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Speaker 1: we went to Disneyland together? And like there are some

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Speaker 1: people that just live the experience of being at Disneyland

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Speaker 1: and like having the fun, and there's some people that

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Speaker 1: have to document every single thing that is happening. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And it's like while they're documenting, yes, it looks like

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Speaker 1: they're having so much fun and they're sharing it with

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Speaker 1: all their followers and stuff, but like when.

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Speaker 2: You're with the person, they're checked out. They're like not

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Speaker 2: really with you.

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Speaker 3: I remember so much of that day because I did

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Speaker 3: take a single photo or the only pay my sister

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Speaker 3: cry laughing on Space Mountain that's so good.

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Speaker 2: We'll put that up on the Instagram in such a

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Speaker 2: good photo.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's so fun and a total laugh

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Speaker 3: attack mountain crying, laughing.

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Speaker 2: But that's the only picture we have because because we

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Speaker 2: are having so much fun.

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Speaker 3: We're having so much fun. Oh yeah, and you and

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Speaker 3: I took one picture and rides of the Resistance. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and then the only video I took was the fireworks

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Speaker 3: because your voice was ringing out. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I was like, I want a video of this.

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Speaker 2: But I do remember.

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Speaker 3: I try to remember that too when it comes to

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Speaker 3: like kid stuff, yeah, like kid performances and stuff. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: David and I will like try to take turns, like Okay,

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Speaker 3: you take the video this time, I'll take it next time.

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Speaker 3: And even if I'm taking a video, I'll try to

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Speaker 3: like not watch it through the phone, do you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. Like I'll try to like set up

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Speaker 3: the frame and just hold it really really still and

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Speaker 3: then watch with my own eyes because I want to

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Speaker 3: be in the experience. I also don't want my kids

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Speaker 3: to look over at me and I'm like looking at

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Speaker 3: him through through a screen, making eye.

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Speaker 2: Contact with him.

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Speaker 3: It's hard, but like, and sometimes the video comes out

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Speaker 3: like shit, And sometimes I just don't even take a video,

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Speaker 3: Like sometimes I just watch the pharments, watch the song

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Speaker 3: like be there. But you know it's hard because you know,

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Speaker 3: grandparents want to like see, I know everybody wants.

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Speaker 1: To go and yeah you know, yeah, yeah, more better. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I guess what are your big takeaways from today?

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Speaker 1: I think I know mine go ahead.

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Speaker 3: That while there are we have to look for the

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Speaker 3: beautiful positives and social media to keep ourselves sane, and

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Speaker 3: we also have to recognize all of the detrimental things

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Speaker 3: that it can bring into our mentals in our life. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and so I think having boundaries. I love that you

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Speaker 3: take social media off your phone. I think I should

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Speaker 3: maybe start that practice.

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Speaker 2: Girl, I double dog.

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Speaker 1: Dare you to take Instagram off your phone for like

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Speaker 1: the next three days and see how much you reach

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Speaker 1: for your phone to look at it, because like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy, it's craz easy. Yeah, no, you're right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just delete the apps just like it'll be there. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: no social yourself, no socialself. What's your takeaway? I think

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Speaker 1: that mine is like I'm doing the right thing for myself.

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Speaker 1: By I mean, I know everybody's in front of me,

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Speaker 1: like by going on and off and stuff.

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Speaker 2: But like, I think it's good for me. I think

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Speaker 2: it's good for me not to have, you know, I

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Speaker 2: think it's I think you've.

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Speaker 3: Found like a good balance or you're finding a good balance. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you let yourself indulge and like have fun with it,

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Speaker 3: and then you're like and you take a break.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And I encourage you know, I encourage our community

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Speaker 1: to like take it off sometimes, because like it is

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Speaker 1: wild how much you reach for it, especially when you're lonely,

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Speaker 1: especially when you're by yourself.

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Speaker 2: Like you know, I'm not saying you have to like

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Speaker 2: text a friend, but it is a good thing to do.

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Speaker 1: It's like but also just like be by yourself, you know,

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Speaker 1: like just hang out and chill and sit for a

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Speaker 1: minute and like don't look at everybody else's life, disconnect,

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Speaker 1: like focus on other stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's it's good for you. Yeah, discover what those dopamine

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Speaker 2: hits are for you and realize yeah baby boom boom

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Speaker 2: boo ooh flower bo you know, yeah, Okay, I feel

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Speaker 2: a little more better.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm doing the right thing by having

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Speaker 1: Also the bit is hilarious of people being like do

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Speaker 1: you have TikTok on your phone.

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Speaker 2: It truly is. I enjoy it. So I enjoy a

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Speaker 2: good bit. I enjoy a good bit. I feel a

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Speaker 2: little more better about it. Yeah, I feel more better too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Good, Yeah, okay, cool, this is good. That was fun.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to check in with you tomorrow and

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Speaker 2: see if you took. If you do, you can do it.

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Speaker 2: Just start with twenty four hours. You can do it.

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Speaker 2: I want to do it. I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: Guys, we're taking a little break for the holidays, taking

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Speaker 1: some a little bit of rest, so relax, say back

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Speaker 1: even sillier, stupider New Year. But we want to hear

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Speaker 1: from you while we're taking our little restspit, so please

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Speaker 1: keep emailing us and keep sending us MS, and we

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Speaker 1: love a voice note about what you guys want to

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Speaker 1: hear on the pod.

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Speaker 3: You can email us at Morebetter Pod at gmail dot com, or.

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Speaker 2: You can hit us up on the DMS. Just slide

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Speaker 2: slide right in there, slide right in there. Yeah, Happy holidays,

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Speaker 2: Happy holidays. See you next time, guys, See you next time.

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Speaker 3: Bye.

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Speaker 1: Dude, you have something you'd like to be more better

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Speaker 1: at that you want us to talk about in a

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Speaker 1: future episodes.

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Speaker 2: one of our tips and tricks?

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com and with a voice note if

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Speaker 1: Better with Stephanie Melissa is a production from w V

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Speaker 1: Sound and iHeartMedia's Mikutura podcast network, hosted by Me, Stephanie Beatriz,

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