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Speaker 1: everyone is invited. We're celebrating a three hundred episode of

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Speaker 1: Moved the Sticks. Hey, party music set the scene here.

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Speaker 1: We've got a Hall of Famer and Ron Wolf talk

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on your three hundred show of Move the Sticks.

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be some exciting football here with these teams. Though,

424
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Speaker 1: it's balance, definitely some balance there with those squads. I

425
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Speaker 1: wanna do some a little bit of mail bag work

426
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Speaker 1: here before we get nothing like a mail bag. So

427
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Speaker 1: are you confident you're reading skills here? Let's go, Let's

428
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Speaker 1: do it, go for it. We've we've kind of done

429
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Speaker 1: this before, but I always like to revisit during your

430
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Speaker 1: scouting days or some of the of your favorite small

431
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Speaker 1: schools to scout, interesting talent, favorite coaches, favorite places to eat,

432
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Speaker 1: that type of thing. Well, the eating thing, I'm gonna

433
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Speaker 1: leave the DJ. But favorite place to go Eastern Washington,

434
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Speaker 1: way way back there. Tackle was before the red turf. Uh,

435
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Speaker 1: there's a tackle Michael Ruse. I was up there for

436
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Speaker 1: Michael Ruse who was played in I think played for

437
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 1: the Titans for a lawn time decade. The fields named

438
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 1: after him up there. Now they donate a little money,

439
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 1: went back, went back to the almondy Ga m a

440
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Speaker 1: little money. He was one of my uh favorites to watch.

441
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Speaker 1: That place was a favorite to go because when I

442
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Speaker 1: was with in the Seattle Sehouxs, we actually used to

443
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Speaker 1: have training camp there. So Cheney, Washington was a spot

444
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Speaker 1: a destination our state airs spoken dude thing see on

445
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Speaker 1: the West coast from me, cal POLYI was my favorite

446
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Speaker 1: visitor every year. Oh you can't be Chao polli slow

447
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Speaker 1: because back in the day, to think about eating, that

448
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 1: was the only place they had a Chick fil A,

449
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Speaker 1: Like if you think about now, Chick fil A's all

450
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Speaker 1: in the West coast. You could go into the student union.

451
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Speaker 1: I mean I could. I could blend in look like

452
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Speaker 1: a student childe. Yeah, they see. I went and got

453
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Speaker 1: they had the brisket sandwich though that the they had

454
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Speaker 1: the same place that it was the Doghouse Girl at

455
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Speaker 1: Fresno State outside Fresno, and it was like their sister restaurant.

456
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Speaker 1: And I can't remember believe it and somebody will let

457
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Speaker 1: us know, but Firehouse, Firehouse something like that, unbelievable barbecue

458
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Speaker 1: like brisket sam which it was really good. Uh So, anyways,

459
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Speaker 1: cal probably on the West coast. Then going back east,

460
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Speaker 1: going to the Harvard Yale game. It was a fun experience.

461
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Speaker 1: I was there to scout Ryan Fitzpatrick when he was

462
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Speaker 1: at Harvard. I want to see him play live. So

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Speaker 1: it went to the Harvard Yale game. The stadium is

464
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Speaker 1: just so old and historic and able. Yeah, it was no,

465
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Speaker 1: it was that Harvard. It was a hard hard was

466
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Speaker 1: that Harvard And watch it there and plus there's something

467
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Speaker 1: about setting up with the stands and at that point

468
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Speaker 1: in time, I'm probably I don't know light and I'm

469
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Speaker 1: watching the game. One. I think I could. I think

470
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Speaker 1: I could. I think I could play in this game.

471
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Speaker 1: That's the best thing about going to an IVY League game.

472
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Speaker 1: He sit up there in the stands and go I still,

473
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Speaker 1: I got mad, bad of shape. Make that throw? Come on,

474
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Speaker 1: do that easy? Easy? Um. Anyways, those are my two

475
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Speaker 1: favorite small schools. Go ahead seally ripping Lass tied them term.

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Speaker 1: This one's coming from our old buddy td A k

477
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Speaker 1: a young Kobe who wins in a free throw contest,

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Speaker 1: d J Bucky or check that's trick question because the

479
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Speaker 1: correct answer is Kent. Yeah, I can't. Can't holds the record, right,

480
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Speaker 1: apparently kids hit like a million. Free holds the record

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Speaker 1: his high school record for for free throw percentage. No joke,

482
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Speaker 1: he likes. I've heard him tell a story. We hit

483
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Speaker 1: like nineties something in a row. Can't look on bunkies faces,

484
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Speaker 1: he did. He can't can shoot free throws. He's not

485
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Speaker 1: behind a glass, he's not even here. Okay, how do

486
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Speaker 1: you get filed? Like? Why do you follow him? Yeah right,

487
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Speaker 1: let him shoot game? Yeah, game where you don't know

488
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Speaker 1: if he was getting to the market, he could get

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Speaker 1: to the bucket. He had a euro step. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out why they were following

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Speaker 1: kids like I think. I think, why is he in

492
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Speaker 1: the game? Why so many shots? I think they were

493
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Speaker 1: in the bonus and he took a charge. He taking

494
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Speaker 1: so many Why is he getting so many shots? He's

495
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Speaker 1: taking charges? Were you a good free throw shooter? But

496
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Speaker 1: I didn't want to say, But I did have an award.

497
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Speaker 1: I was a top free throw shooter in my high school.

498
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Speaker 1: Did you really I used to hold the ball all

499
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Speaker 1: the time? Two situations have a have a podcast snock

500
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Speaker 1: out game. I was inconsistent. I think I was. I

501
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 1: think I was like high sixties, little seventies, which we're

502
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Speaker 1: gonna value. Mark says he was the mass Mark says

503
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Speaker 1: he was the Massachusetts state free throw champ. We're really

504
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Speaker 1: gonna have to do this, We're really gonna have to

505
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Speaker 1: get this competition the whole state, many state? How many?

506
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Speaker 1: How many guys from the other four schools in the

507
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Speaker 1: state were another four schools? Mark? How how many schools

508
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Speaker 1: are we talking about is all divisions? Was when I

509
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Speaker 1: was thirteen years old. I don't know, you guys are

510
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Speaker 1: familiar with the Knights of Columbus, but they hold to

511
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Speaker 1: help the statewide free throw championship and uh, I don't know,

512
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Speaker 1: made twenty five, So don't hold any records like Ken Brown.

513
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: But did you chance my my one athletic claim to fame.

514
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Speaker 1: And after that it's been all downhill. They shot like

515
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Speaker 1: the Florida We need we need that, we need to

516
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Speaker 1: pull the footage almost like they used to pull Andy

517
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Speaker 1: Ray passing kid. Yes, Mark, Yeah, I'll call my mom.

518
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Speaker 1: What was your routine? What was your routine? How many?

519
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Speaker 1: A lot of Uh? Well, first of all, a lot

520
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Speaker 1: of late night in your backyard practice with the backyard

521
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Speaker 1: were talking yard opening, seen a spacecam that was you, um,

522
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: but the key was if you get the spins that

523
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Speaker 1: it went in, it would actually roll back to you.

524
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah that's yeah, yeah yeah. I couldn't compost of

525
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: that now though, but I'd love to be part of

526
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Speaker 1: a competition. Is nothing to sneeze out there, that's fantastic. Yeah.

527
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: I was average. I was a little average to blow

528
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Speaker 1: average free through shoot. Nobody asked me It's okay, How

529
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: are you silly? Anyways, what's the next question? What we

530
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: got there already? Next one? Next one? Which teams are

531
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Speaker 1: in the market for QB one be a little earlier,

532
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: little early? Jordan jinks, Well, I mean, Bucky. I feel

533
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: like every year we talked about that two thousand four class,

534
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Speaker 1: which is the year they're going to draft a quarterback

535
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Speaker 1: in the first round. Pliance that argers the Steelers. Well,

536
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: all those teams are good. I just read a story

537
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: about David Davids Webb in the next coming. He's ready.

538
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: Then Mason Rudolf, you know Pittsburgh took maybe are you

539
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: be the best quarterback in the draft? Charges? So the

540
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: charges on the only Cardale go get them, Cardale, Cardal

541
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Speaker 1: What you're talking about? A happy draft day? Cardal Dodge

542
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: Dodge Cardal Gino though Tino in the mix too, All right,

543
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: give us another one? Here? What we got? So this

544
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 1: one's uh, this one comes from this one comes from Travis.

545
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: Did you tip hands Us when he was your Uber driver? Yes?

546
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: I did. I did go on their podcast, and uh

547
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: I did mention that hands Us look like an Uber driver.

548
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: But I've had some time to think about that. And

549
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: I'd like to apologize to Uber. Maybe he's a lift driver. Yeah, yeah, no,

550
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: I don't don't think that works either anyway. So well,

551
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: what what what else we got? What else do we got?

552
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: Let's see here we got? Um? How often do you

553
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: bring up the app State win over Michigan too? Rich

554
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: eyes on much twice a day tops that I really,

555
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: I really don't. Rich Rich gets it anytime I'm around

556
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: him or with him. And somebody asked where I went

557
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: to school. It's just it's kind of understood. They don't

558
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: eve really see anything. They already know. I'm still bumming

559
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: though about how much you know, think of all these

560
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: podcasts we've done with solely behind the Glass, if we

561
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: could have just stink and finished that game against Tennessee, Yeah,

562
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: and all the fun I would have talking about app

563
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: State beating Tennessee. Kind of you kind of filled our

564
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: bet and kind of wear the tie you're supposed to

565
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: wear it on t Ah wear it on our set. Yeah,

566
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: that's I. Even I even brought I even brought one

567
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: without a power tea on it. Did you? Yeah? You

568
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: remember that? Yeah? I brought a power tea one. It's

569
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Speaker 1: called a power tea power tea. That's what the that's

570
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Speaker 1: what the logo is, the power tea. It's really called

571
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: the power tea. Did you make that up? Did you?

572
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: That's the power tea? I don't have a power I don't.

573
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: I know this is not one of the questions. But

574
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Speaker 1: I was just listening to I might have been our

575
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Speaker 1: buddy Bruce Felmon's pod the other day, and I want

576
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: to say Tennessee has a pretty high profile opponent earlier

577
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: in the season. Yeah, West Virginia. Oh that week one,

578
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: Will's gonna light them up? Like? Yeah, I asked, I

579
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: asked a handle on this cake sitting in front of me.

580
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: I asked him. I asked him. When we interviewed him,

581
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: I said, please just just keep it to four touchdowns,

582
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,239
Speaker 1: not five or six. I'm not gonna call that. Might

583
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: be it might be a halftime, absolutely half time, because

584
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: there's the Tennessee is not returning a single starting cornerback

585
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: against Sills and career. By the way, Twitter has been

586
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: all over me because when I interviewed him, I mentioned

587
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: something about what do you do? And I got Morgantowtown

588
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: And I've been to Morgantown. I've been to games in Morgantown.

589
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: I went to go see, Uh what's the name of

590
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: the they had a running back? Uh no, Jay thicker guy.

591
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: I don't even know if he got picked. It wasn't

592
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Speaker 1: Jay Harris. Who am I thinking of? Was? What's what's

593
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: his name? Marshall had a big back there back in

594
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: the day. But anyway, see, I've been to Morgantown, but

595
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: I screwed that one up. Nice kid though, didn't even

596
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Speaker 1: correct me. Yeah, two points for that. Give me give

597
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: me a two more here, then we'll wrap up our

598
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: mail back. Alright, Yeah, this one comes from Xavier. What

599
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: is one rule calid NFL you would change, fix or create?

600
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Buck. The obvious one to me is the

601
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: fumble out of the back of the end zone and

602
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: you lose possession. I don't care by that rule. I would,

603
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: I would. I would lighten up on some of the

604
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: illegal contact and pass interference stuff. Let him play a

605
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: little bit. Let's play a little bit. Let him hold

606
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: and hug and mug a little bit, you know, a

607
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: little more physical. That's okay. I I really don't like

608
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: that FuMB out of the back of the end zone.

609
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: Now you want to penalize him ten yards or something

610
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: that's fine but loose possession diver for the end zone.

611
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like that anyways. Al Right, give

612
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: me one more here, silly, let's see here. Yeah, who

613
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: is the undrafted free agent that has a chance to

614
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: be a Victor Cruz or a Romo from undrafted free

615
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 1: agent holding Hill up in Minnesota's corner protected he has,

616
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: He's creating quite a buzz at corner. He could be

617
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: a guy that kind of emerges as a star as undrafted. Interesting.

618
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: I like that one. I don't. I don't have one

619
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Speaker 1: for you off top of my head. There, So we'll

620
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: get into the preseason and I'll have a name for you.

621
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Speaker 1: Are there? We go? We were ready to get some

622
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: interviews done here, let's get it done, all right, Buck,

623
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: why don't you start us off? I am really really

624
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: excited to bring on one of my biggest mentors, a

625
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: guy who is largely responsible for my extended playing career

626
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,959
Speaker 1: and my scouting career. We want to talk to Hall

627
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: of Fame inductee and Super Bowl Champion executive Ron Wolf. Ron.

628
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Speaker 1: How you doing today? Hey? Ron? Look, I was privileged

629
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: to be a packer for almost three seasons. I saw

630
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: you build a team up from scratch and make him

631
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl champion real quickly. Can you share with

632
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Speaker 1: um our listeners just some of your football team building philosophy, Well,

633
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Speaker 1: I think I think essentially, Uh, it boils down to

634
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Speaker 1: in the game professional football. And you two gentlemen know

635
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: this better than anybody. If you don't have a quarterback,

636
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Speaker 1: you can't compete. So that was number one, and that

637
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Speaker 1: was the fly c I had. I learned that when

638
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: I started in the game with the Oakland Raiders under

639
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Speaker 1: Al Davis, just watching the game progress, watching our team

640
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Speaker 1: progress at that time, the Raiders, And uh, until you

641
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: have that championship caliber quarterback, your kiding yourself. That's number one,

642
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: and then the rest of it kind of fills itself in.

643
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Speaker 1: Obviously you have to have a quality coach, you have

644
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: to have quality players, but they all build themselves up

645
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: into that area. When you can compete at it at

646
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: a certain level, you know you're there. And that's that's

647
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Speaker 1: the greatness of the game. To me, most exciting part

648
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: of the game, like right now is as I'm talking

649
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: to you, the best quarterback in in professional football as

650
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: a former six round draft choice, and uh, that's to

651
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: me the fascination of the game. You know, it's funny

652
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: that you mentioned Tom Brady. That's who you're alluding to

653
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: be in a six round pick. Um, you're one of

654
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Speaker 1: the guys who always believed in drafting a quarterback every

655
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Speaker 1: year every other year. Can you kind of share the

656
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Speaker 1: wisdom behind always looking for a quarterback even though you

657
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Speaker 1: may have one in place. Well, I always thought it

658
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: was good to be protected. And I don't forget. We're

659
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Speaker 1: playing a game in Minneapolis, and uh, play one, we

660
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: lose far running his replacement. The very next play, we

661
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Speaker 1: lose him. So now we're down to number three, and

662
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Speaker 1: number three costs us the game that point on. It

663
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Speaker 1: was always an endeavor to try to better yourself, and

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Speaker 1: we got pretty lucky with some of the guys. Brunel

665
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Speaker 1: in the fifth round, hassle Back in the sixth round.

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Speaker 1: They went on had tremendous careers. They were pro bowled players.

667
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Speaker 1: But when you had I was in the thirty eight

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Speaker 1: years and you get one player like a Brett Farve

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Speaker 1: in those thirty eight years, I mean it was it

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Speaker 1: was really remarkable what he did, what he was able

671
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Speaker 1: to accomplish as a professional football player, and we even

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Speaker 1: had Kurt Warren who was in the Hall of Fame,

673
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Speaker 1: and everybody said, look, how dumb you were. You you

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Speaker 1: let That's right, we did let him go, But had

675
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Speaker 1: had he been with us, he would have never played.

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Speaker 1: That's a very that's a very fair point there. With

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Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks that you just mentioned. One of the

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Speaker 1: things we've always done, didn't our scouting career. You're trying

679
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Speaker 1: to always study these quarterbacks round But then we have

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Speaker 1: a chance to get somebody on, especially with your wisdom

681
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Speaker 1: at that position. If you had to just narrow it down,

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Speaker 1: you know, if it was maybe one, two or three

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Speaker 1: characteristics that you're looking for that you found in the

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Speaker 1: great quarterbacks you've been fortunate to have selected or been

685
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Speaker 1: around during your career, what would those three characteristics be? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think number one, first of all, if if I

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Speaker 1: knew the answer to that question, I would be I'd

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Speaker 1: have my own island. So I mean, I think we

689
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Speaker 1: already discussed that because here, you know, you got Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: Look at his career. I mean, look look where he

691
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Speaker 1: came from, and look what he's accomplished. But I ain't

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Speaker 1: Number one is that their success as a winner. I

693
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Speaker 1: think you have to win win, and to me, that's

694
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Speaker 1: a very very important statistic. It's the only thing that

695
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Speaker 1: really matters in the game as far as I'm concerned.

696
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Speaker 1: Who won is wins and losses, and uh, that's that's

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Speaker 1: key to me. And then then it goes into all

698
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Speaker 1: the other thing. The athletic ability, the arms strength enters

699
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Speaker 1: into it, the ability to make the play at the

700
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Speaker 1: moment of play needs to be made, and then you

701
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Speaker 1: can when you go to a college game, you can

702
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: always study and you see whether or not the coaching

703
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Speaker 1: staff puts the ball in this guy's hands at a

704
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Speaker 1: critical moment or they make they make the call. Those

705
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: to me are tell tale signs. I'm glad you mentioned

706
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Speaker 1: that about going to the game, because you know, Assi

707
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Speaker 1: had taught me when I first started, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you do the same thing with your guys. The importance

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Speaker 1: of seeing those quarterbacks in the live environment, not just

710
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Speaker 1: going off the tape. And I know some people interpret

711
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Speaker 1: that that, oh, you just need to go see to

712
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Speaker 1: gauge his arms, trek, There's so many other factors that

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Speaker 1: go into it and what you can glean from a

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Speaker 1: live exposure with the quarterback. What was your belief on

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Speaker 1: that ron on you on the importance of getting out

716
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Speaker 1: to see these guys live and in person. I think

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Speaker 1: just just what you said, UH is very clear. Are

718
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Speaker 1: do the coaches who know him better than anybody else?

719
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: I mean, their livelihood depends on how well he performs

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00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: uh during the during the course of a contest. Did

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Speaker 1: he keep the ball in his hand or they take

722
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Speaker 1: it out of his hand? That tells you the world's

723
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: worlds of just unbelievable information right then and there as

724
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Speaker 1: a trust and faith that they have in this particular individual.

725
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: Like let's take far for example, Will Southern Mississippi. I

726
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: mean they never took the ball out of his hand

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Speaker 1: because when he came on the field, I always felt

728
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Speaker 1: the field Till is in his team's favor. Now he

729
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: was fifteen. During his career, you know, he knocked the

730
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Speaker 1: heck out of some really good teams at their home field.

731
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Speaker 1: Auburn and Georgia beat Florida State in Jacksonville on the

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Speaker 1: homecoming for Florida State. Those things, those are the things

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Speaker 1: I think that the characteristics people look for. Well, that's

734
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Speaker 1: what I look for. Anyway, a quarterback you had to

735
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Speaker 1: have you had to have the arm you had to

736
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Speaker 1: have the athleticism, the ability to step around the rush

737
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Speaker 1: if you couldn't run. I was Peyton Manning. He was

738
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Speaker 1: acceptional that I always saw. Damn Marino was very good

739
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Speaker 1: because he never took a loss through the ball away,

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Speaker 1: so it was always second and ten instead the second

741
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Speaker 1: and twenty. Little things like that. You know, It's funny,

742
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: Ron when you talked about Brett Farvin, like obviously having

743
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Speaker 1: played with him. For me when I evaluate quarterbacks, he's

744
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Speaker 1: kind of the standard of what I kind of compare

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00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: everybody to when I'm looking at a franchise guy. Because

746
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 1: I was there in ninety seven he won three straight

747
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: m vps and we all realized the magic that he

748
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Speaker 1: had on the field. That is why I was, I

749
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: want to say like surprise, but I thought it was

750
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: like lofty praise. When in this year's draft we had

751
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: a lot of our guys, guys that have spent time

752
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: in Green Bay, Alonzo Hiyasm with John Dorsey, Scott mcluy

753
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: and your son Elliott kind of talked about Baker Mayfield

754
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: in terms of having some of that that far like magic.

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Speaker 1: Uh Um, can you kind of talk about that magic

756
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: and what it means for a quarterback that have that,

757
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: because I don't know if everyone can can kind of

758
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: quantify that comparison when it was made and why it

759
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: was so such a big lofty praise when they put

760
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: that on him. That's a very interesting question. Uh uh.

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00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: I think. I think that the people that are at

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00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: the top of the game, at that particular position, that's

763
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: a tough, as you guys know, a tough, tough position

764
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: to play, and it's they're rare individuals that have that

765
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: capability of making something happen. And there's so many variable variables.

766
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Speaker 1: It's it's how how they adjust to the systems are

767
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: in is it's they have a uniqueness. And again I says,

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Speaker 1: I wish, I wish I knew how how the qualms

769
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: that and in a better phrase and a better, better example.

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Speaker 1: Then I can't do it because I'm not really sure

771
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: because you have so many people that are that that

772
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: have been accessional. We all look at this position and

773
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 1: we all try two to simplify it, and you can't.

774
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: You either have the ability or you don't have the ability.

775
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: And here, and I'm in Green Bay right now, but

776
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: here here in Green Bay, I mean they had far

777
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Speaker 1: than they had Roger. That's uh set of quarterbacks there,

778
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: and uh, each one, each one is different in their

779
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: own way. What do you make of this word culture

780
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: that gets thrown around so much? And and Bucky mentioned,

781
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: you know, with with Elliot and Alonso and John there

782
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: in Cleveland coming into a situation where they've only won

783
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: one game in the last two years, and the phrase

784
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: every time a guy gets hired, it seems like we're here,

785
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: we're going to change the culture. You you were experienced

786
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: at firsthand to take that Green Bay franchise and completely

787
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: spin it around. What does that mean when people say

788
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna go in there and change the culture. Yeah,

789
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: it means you get your fingers crossed and hopefully you

790
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: get if you get the right players to make it

791
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: all work. But Uh, with me here in Green Bay,

792
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: it was very very simple. I played on the tradition

793
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: of the of the of the Packers, going back to

794
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: Curly Lambeau. Obviously Vince Lombardi. The trophy is named after Lombardi.

795
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Speaker 1: Everything in this town is pretty much named after Lombardi,

796
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: even though it's Earl Lambo or Curly Lambo's UH team

797
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: that he started with. Marvelous tradition and I played on

798
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: that and it kind of worked. We kind of build

799
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: everything around the football team. All we ask our guys

800
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: to do was played football, Bucky. Bucky knows this. We

801
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: didn't asked them to go with the socials or anything else.

802
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: They were football, professional football players, and we treated them

803
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: as such. And to change the culture. I think the

804
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: thing you're talking about Cleveland, they have a marvelous professional

805
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: football tradition and hopefully they'll play on that and and

806
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: and turning around. Obviously, I'm rooting hard for them my

807
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: sons there um Ran. Lastly, for me, Um, you alluded

808
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: to being in the game since six or three working

809
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: for the late great Al Davis. Can you talk about

810
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: just a couple of lessons that you learned from working

811
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: with Mr Davis. Well, I learned so much. I spent

812
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: football seasons with him, and he brought me in as uh,

813
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: it's not those guys out of Oklahoma and trained me

814
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: uh in scouting, in how to run a franchise. Uh.

815
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: He was a brilliant man and an i Q of

816
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: one knew every facet of the game. And I think

817
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: the biggest thing I learned from him was whenever I

818
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: had to go in and sit and talk to him.

819
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: I would prepare myself. You know he's going to ask this,

820
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: he's going to ask this question, that question, and invariably

821
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: he would ask the one question that I hadn't prepped

822
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 1: myself for. He was just so far ahead of the game. Obviously,

823
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: you know, he became he was a head coach, became

824
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: a commissioner of a leg, brought about the merger, became

825
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: an owner, and I think for fifty for five decades

826
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,959
Speaker 1: he had a team that went to the Super Bowl.

827
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: So amazing, amazing man. Quite a career and what an

828
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: opportunity to learn under him. Last question for me, We

829
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: could ask this a lot and there's a lot of

830
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: young scouts in the league that listened to this, to

831
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: this podcast, and one of the questions we could ask,

832
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: what can we do to grow in in our profession?

833
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: Do you have an advice? Just from the experience of

834
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: me and Bucky have we do the best we can?

835
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: But I can't think of anybody were qualified that you

836
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: brought to give some of these young guys advice on

837
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: how to get better, how to improve as an invio,

838
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: how to get better as a scout. What advice would

839
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: you give them? Believe in yourself, believe in what you're seeing. Uh.

840
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: To me, that's that's so important. There are so so

841
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: many things that so many people today, just like you

842
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: were talking about, everybody has an opinion. You hear various

843
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: opinions on like I don't know enough about the players

844
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: that have been drafted, like the last ten years, uh particular,

845
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: particularly you take this year, all the quarterbacks that are coming,

846
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: everybody had an opinion, or the running back from Penn

847
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: State or this or that or what have you. The

848
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: most important thing is believe in yourself, Believe in your

849
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: ability to evaluate, take advantage of the knowledge that you

850
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: already possess. Because having played like in Bucky's since he

851
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: could equate certain people two players that he played with

852
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: or played against, those those are very portant. When you're

853
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: with a team, you can compare each individual to to

854
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: the individual you're looking at. For example, you're looking at

855
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: a wide receiver and uh, you can compare him to

856
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: your wide receivers and believe, and I can't over emphasize

857
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: this thing. I've said it three times already. Believe in yourself.

858
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: Don't listen to the people around you. You do, you

859
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: do the work, you put your name on it. That's

860
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: good enough. You know. It's one thing I was about

861
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: to close, but I have to say this because, uh right,

862
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you remember this. Years ago,

863
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 1: I was at Northern Colorado and I just scouted Vincent Jackson.

864
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: And when I left Northern Colorado, I picked up the

865
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: phone and I called you and I asked you, when

866
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: you looked at the real Owen's coming out of you

867
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: Tea Chattanooga, what gave you the confidence to give him

868
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 1: a big grade? And in the car ride he told me, Buck,

869
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: believe what you see. If you see this guy as

870
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: a dude, put a big grade on him and stand

871
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 1: on the table for him. And so hearing you talk

872
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: about believing yourself, believe what you see, trust your eyes,

873
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: make big opinions. Uh. The one thing that I can

874
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: say about one being in Green Bay and then working

875
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: for a lot of guys that kind of were rearing

876
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: that system. All the scouts always had an opinion, and

877
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: they always had the right to voice their opinion. You

878
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: may not have necessarily been with the consensus, but you

879
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: will always given the opportunity to be heard. And because

880
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: you were heard, you felt inclusive. At part of the process.

881
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: And I think it made me and it's made others

882
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: better scouts because it was a cumulative thing everyone. It

883
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: was a collective thing where everyone got a chance to

884
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: have a voice. Then we made a decision and we

885
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: moved on. But because you had an opportunity to say

886
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: your word it, you felt like you're really a part

887
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: of the process. Ron Marsenac was there with with me

888
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, and I know Ron knows him well and

889
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: and uh Ron used to always tell me when I

890
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: was first starting out. It was a great mentor for me.

891
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 1: You're almost better in this business to be strong and

892
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: wrong than to be weaken. Right, You're not gonna remember.

893
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: You can remember whether you believed in what you saw

894
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: and you still on the table you had a strong opinion.

895
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna remember if you got the guy right. You

896
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: don't have the courage to sit up and say anything

897
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: in the meeting. So I think that's that's great advice. Ron,

898
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for that. I'm sure all our

899
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: listeners will get a lot out of that. Well. Last question,

900
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: last question for real this time, it really is my

901
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: last question. You do you have any good Bucky Brooks

902
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: story we're selling right, and we're selling right in our

903
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: third episode of this of this show. And nothing would

904
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: make me happier than if you could remember anything at

905
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: all about Bucky Brooks. The one thing I remember is

906
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: when I talked to Bucky and we're gonna turn you around,

907
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: and the expression on his face was priceless. But yeah,

908
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: I can't describe it, but you know him, so there

909
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: you go. And it was just I'm sure you know now.

910
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: So here's what's funny, because you mentioned the quarterback. So

911
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: when I went and worked out for Green Bay, the

912
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: quarterback that was throwing the ball was t J. Rubiley.

913
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: T J. Rubiley was throwing darts. I'm coming off a

914
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 1: high school phil I'm coaching high school ball at the time.

915
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: I hadn't really caught a ball in a while, and

916
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: t J. Rubley is ran back throwing nine fastballs in

917
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: an indoor facility where I could barely see the ball,

918
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: and so it is beating me up right, and it's

919
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: hitting me everywhere. So finally I'm just like just body catching,

920
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: but just just body catching and swallowed up. And at

921
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: the end of that workout, Royn brings me home. He's like,

922
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: I want to do something, and so he had me

923
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: backpedal and do a couple of things and I end

924
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: up we call head whipping on a W drill And

925
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: at that moment he was like, UM, yeah, I think

926
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: I think we might want to bring you back as

927
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: a quarterback. And John Snyder would call me literally every

928
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: Tuesday for about a five week period, Hey man, hanging there,

929
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 1: we're thinking And by that time I hadn't been anywhere

930
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: I would take anything. They could have asked me to

931
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: get water and I was doing it. But it was

932
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: the greatest thing because what he did it allowed me

933
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: to see the game from a different side. I got

934
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: the chance to sit in defensive meetings see how UH

935
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: defensive players act. And without playing defense for whatever another

936
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: three or four years, I never would have had the

937
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: ability to evaluate and see the game like I saw it.

938
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: So as a player, I never was able to kind

939
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 1: of live up to my personal stuff, but it allowed

940
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: me to do so many more things outside of football

941
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: that have helped me today. And I'm you know, I

942
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: can attribute that to Ron and his his foresight to

943
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: be able to be like, hey, you know what, you

944
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: could be a cornerback and you could play in the

945
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: league and I did like he had it. I never

946
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: would have saw that for myself, So thank you to you.

947
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: That's that's great. Well, I think that's a great way

948
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: to end it there, Ron talking to up Bucky having

949
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: hands for for feet for hands there and let you

950
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: know where to play defense. So thanks so much for

951
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: joining us on our three episode. Man, it means the

952
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: world to me to talk to you again. I'm gonna

953
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: make sure I do a better job of standing touch.

954
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for sharing all your knowledge with our listeners.

955
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 1: I appreciate the opportunity. Thank you, Fellas. How cool was that? Buck?

956
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean, look, the relationship you have with Ron was

957
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: was very obvious during that conversation. But even aside from that,

958
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: just all the pearls of wisdom he just dropped in

959
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: that and that interview was just just everything like it's

960
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: it's it's so crazy you talked about getting a one

961
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: on one class and team building and all the other

962
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 1: stuff like that's what we just were able to receive

963
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: this Um it's always great, Like I think we always

964
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 1: can learn, and I think just even in that conversation,

965
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: I continue to learn more, and I think that's why

966
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: it's important we talked about all the aspiring scouts and

967
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: guys that want to get into the business. Always be

968
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: willing to learn. Always people in to listen. You can

969
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: learn from anybody in any sport that has built a team.

970
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 1: I think there's some things that can be gleamed from

971
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: guys who have done it in down it at a

972
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: high level. And one of the favorite parts about that discussion,

973
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: and Bucky for those who are listening, is very, very

974
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: humble and never talks about rarely talks about his own

975
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: playing career. But I mean, seriously, how many guys can

976
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: say they've played on both sides of the ball and

977
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: National Football League. It is a very very select company

978
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: that you're in there. So it was kind of cool

979
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: to hear that story of how it's funny. It's funny

980
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: he's classes and I'm thinking, you're inside that indoor, man.

981
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: I don't doubt your hands. I think it was sight.

982
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: It might have been because it was. It was one

983
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: of the worst workouts you can ever match it. If

984
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: you can think about the pressure of having to perform

985
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: and in the first one or two they throw to

986
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: you drop, it only ratches up then. So the greatest,

987
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: the average, the average person at home The way that

988
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: I can equate that pressure to you would be you

989
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: foolishly decided to go to like the batting cage on

990
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: a date in high school. You're in like the forty machine.

991
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: You missed the first two three, and you know if

992
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: you miss another one there will be no second day.

993
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: That's kind of like the pressure that That's exactly That's

994
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: exactly what it was like. All right, Well, from one

995
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame executive to an executive coming off really

996
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame year where he just made every right

997
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: decision and ended up garnering him the Executive of the

998
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: Year award as well as the Lombardi Trophy. Excited to

999
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: be joined by Howie Roseman, all right, Buck, I'm excited

1000
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: to have a good pal here, Howie Roseman, join us

1001
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: on the show. Howie, first of all, when my question,

1002
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: what are the rings show up here? When we have

1003
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: in the ring ceremony? When's that going down Thursday night? DJ,

1004
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: We can't wait into the off season and get the

1005
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: rings a little party and Mr Lourie will throw for

1006
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: the whole. Organizations can be special. Have you seen have

1007
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: you got a chance to see the ring yet? I

1008
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: haven't haven't. I'm waiting for opening up often. And you know,

1009
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: I'm not on social media, um for for probably good reasons.

1010
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: I was going to say in the city social media,

1011
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: and I have a feeling those rings are gonna be

1012
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: on social media soon after those boxes are being open. Well,

1013
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: it's phenomenal. That is phenomenal. How we haven't had the

1014
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: opportunity to watch you rebuild this team and making into

1015
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: a title winner. One of the things that I learned

1016
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 1: is you guys have built on strength. You have taken

1017
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: positions of strength where you seemingly didn't have issues and

1018
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: continue to add to that. Can you talk a little

1019
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: bit about your team build a philosophy? Yeah, And I

1020
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: think it's really organizational. Uh, you know, when we think

1021
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: about all the people here and our coaching staff and

1022
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: our front office and our scouting staff and really even

1023
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: our own er. It was about not having as many

1024
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: resources as we're used to having in the past after

1025
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: we made the trade. For Carson really gets you focused

1026
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: on keeping the main thing the main thing, and for us,

1027
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: he was trying to prioritize what we had to have

1028
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: and what we wanted to have and then making sure

1029
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: that that didn't go by the wayside. There's that old

1030
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: lesson that they taught you when you were a kid.

1031
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: Or they take the jar out and they show you

1032
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: all these different rocks, and they show you the sand,

1033
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: and they say, do you think you can get all

1034
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 1: this stuff in the jar? And the whole lesson was,

1035
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: if you don't get the big rocks in first, you

1036
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: can't fit it all in there. So what are the

1037
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: big rocks for you? And for the organization? And in

1038
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: terms of the building philosophy, I'm gonna use one of

1039
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: both of our good friends lines, why am I giving

1040
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: the answers to the test? Oh? Why why are you

1041
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: giving me the answer to the test? Oh? Come on, Well,

1042
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: you know is right next to mine. That's true. I know,

1043
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: I know, I know you get the answer to the test,

1044
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: and I know I've heard it before. But I'll give

1045
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: you another one. Though, I'll give you another one. Though,

1046
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: I give you another line. I can know your values

1047
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: when I check your checkbook, so I know I know

1048
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 1: who you guys have been paying a bunch of money

1049
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: in this organization too, too, So that tells me a

1050
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 1: little bit about the priorities. But I wasn't gonna spell

1051
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: it all out, Bucky. Let's just do it. Let's just

1052
00:53:54,320 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: do a podcast of all cliches, beautiful people, people, people

1053
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: hit stop on this podcast and about five or well.

1054
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: First of all, First of all, once you mentioned the

1055
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: social media thing, everybody's already turned off the podcast and

1056
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Speaker 1: they're now going trying to figure out what your aliases

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. I'm gonna leave that one alone. Once you

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Speaker 1: get I can honestly tell you I don't have any

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Speaker 1: good thing there. You go, all right, how about your quarterback?

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Speaker 1: How's Carson doing health wise? Yeah? I think obviously it's

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00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: a process. You know, you talk about it and you can't.

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00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: You can't shore in the process. It's not like, you know,

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00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: in some injuries. It's not like you can make a

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00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: nine month injury two month injury. So there's a process

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00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: about it. There's nobody who works harder. There's nobody more

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00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: diligent with his rehab. There's no more more diligent about

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Speaker 1: being in the building and making sure that he's around

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Speaker 1: his teammates and um doing whatever it can to get back.

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Speaker 1: And that's the great thing about having Carson one. You

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00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: know he's gonna make sure that when he's ready, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be wrong. Is there an example or story you

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Speaker 1: can give us just kind of behind the scenes with

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Speaker 1: him last year after the injury, Uh, with his leadership,

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Speaker 1: that gives us an example of what kind of leader

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Speaker 1: Carson is. Yeah. I think the first thing is that

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Speaker 1: the we we were obviously in l A and playing

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Speaker 1: the Rams, and now week we're actually supposed to have

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Speaker 1: NFL meetings, and so I was scheduled to stay in

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Speaker 1: l A. So I don't bring all my stuff to

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Speaker 1: the game, and you know, I got to plane the

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00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: next morning, and uh, the player's day off on Tuesday,

1082
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks get together and they're here at six o'clock

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Speaker 1: in the morning watching film and that's Carson and Nick

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00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: Foles and Nate Hugfeld. And you know, he's hobbling in

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Speaker 1: and he's watching film with them that first morning that

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Speaker 1: Tuesday morning, and I remember saying to him, what are

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Speaker 1: you doing? And he goes, we got we gotta get prepared.

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00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: I mean, the season isn't over. I gotta do whatever

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Speaker 1: I can to help these guys. And just the fact

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Speaker 1: that he so much wanted to help Nick prepare and

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00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: Nate pair in their new roles. That kind of leadership,

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Speaker 1: you know, being around the team going up to guys

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00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 1: and he saw them the Super Bowl if you've seen,

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Speaker 1: you know, the copy end of a film, so an

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Speaker 1: unbelieval job with the Super Bowl videos, and you see

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00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: him go up to the Fletcher talks before that last drive,

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Speaker 1: you know, and just motivating them and one drive to

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Speaker 1: be world champion man, one stop to the world champion.

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Speaker 1: He's just got tremendous leadership ability and it's throughout the

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Speaker 1: whole team and UM and it's a it's kind of

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Speaker 1: a touch of faith. And there was a bad touch

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Speaker 1: of faith during the season that we had this group

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Speaker 1: with Carson and Jason Peters and Jordan Hicks and Chris

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Speaker 1: Maragoes and Joe Walker, UM and Darren Sproles of course,

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Speaker 1: who were all hurt and out for the year, and

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Speaker 1: their work ethic, the way they grinded and even during

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl week, I mean, it was like they

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00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: were ready to play and they were all motivating each

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Speaker 1: other and the team and being around it. It was

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Speaker 1: special to watch, you know how. One of the things

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Speaker 1: that's been special to watch has been the way you

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Speaker 1: guys have treated the quarterback position. I've see you have

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Speaker 1: made the backup quarterback or the number two quarterback a

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Speaker 1: premium position. First you did it with Chase Daniels and

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Speaker 1: also having Sam Bradford, but secondly you've done it with

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles. Can you talk about the overall philosophy of

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Speaker 1: making sure that you have multiple quarterbacks that can play

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Speaker 1: and play on the biggest stages and Bucky you just

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00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: said it. I think it doesn't. It doesn't even stop

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Speaker 1: with the first two. It's having a third guy that

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Speaker 1: you feel really good about that can come in and

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Speaker 1: play for you. Because in this league, when you look

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Speaker 1: at the statistics about how many teams have their start

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Speaker 1: to play every game, play every snap, you're not talking

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Speaker 1: about three quarters of the league. I mean normally you're

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00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: talking about half the league who has that. So you

1127
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: don't want to be in a position where you can't

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Speaker 1: keep the train rolling. I mean, this is such a

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Speaker 1: team sport. You've got twenty two starters and you're sitting

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Speaker 1: there and you're going, man, you know, if if one

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Speaker 1: of my defensive lineman went down, I'm gonna make sure

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Speaker 1: I have a guy who's in place. If one of

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00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: our receivers weren't down, i gotta make sure I have

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Speaker 1: depth there. So why wouldn't you have it at one

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Speaker 1: of the most important position of all sports, and for

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Speaker 1: us that that's just been a priority. And um, really

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Speaker 1: it started with coach Peterson and his staff and the

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Speaker 1: teachers he brought in for that position. And we said,

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Speaker 1: you know, to be able to have this, it's almost

1140
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Speaker 1: like and this may be struct here, but it's almost

1141
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: like a silicon valid type learning atmosphere when you have

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00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: those kind of teachers around these guys. So we felt

1143
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: like if we brought in talent to those positions, we

1144
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: had unbelievable coaches to get them up to speed and

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00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: developed them and you know, hopefully we wouldn't have to

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00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: use them, but it would in some way shape the

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Speaker 1: forn um. You know, pretty worth it absolutely proved worth

1148
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Speaker 1: it in the in the form of a Super Bowl

1149
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: ring you're getting ready to pick up. But I'm glad

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00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: you mentioned and Bucky talking about Nick Foles. I want

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Speaker 1: to go back to our very first podcast episode here,

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Speaker 1: how are you? You were the first guest on the

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Speaker 1: Move the six podcast. I want you listen to a

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Speaker 1: little clip here because we asked you about a quarterback

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Speaker 1: on the team at the time that who knew when

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Speaker 1: we fast forward and we'd be talking about somebody that

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Speaker 1: was instrumental in uh in hoisting Lombardi Trophy. Let's go back.

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Speaker 1: This is episode one of Move the Sticks here with

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Speaker 1: Howie Roseman. I think the one thing we knew through

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Speaker 1: the scouting process with Nick was what kind of kidd

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Speaker 1: he is and what kind of worker he was and

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00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: how important football was to him. And then you kind

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00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: of go back and you look at it, and he's

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Speaker 1: six six, he's got huge hands, he's got long arms

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Speaker 1: to be able to reach over those defensive linemen and

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Speaker 1: be able to make throws and tight quarters and then

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Speaker 1: his arm, his footwork, his all continued to get better

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Speaker 1: and grow. And really when you see it, it started

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Speaker 1: that first camp and if you remember DJ, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think he was the leading passer in the NFL

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Speaker 1: in the preseason for that first preseason. How about that?

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Speaker 1: How we we we we were just saying, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think we left out the part where we talked

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Speaker 1: about how he was gonna be a super bow m

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Speaker 1: v p UM. But there was there was definitely things

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Speaker 1: that that and you could hear it in your voice,

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00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: your your excitement about Nick Foles right from the beginning. Yeah, really,

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Speaker 1: you think about his record as a starting quarterback in

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00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: philadelp I mean it's been impressive, certainly after his rookie year.

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Speaker 1: It's it's one of the best winning percentages and all

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Speaker 1: the football and um, we're really excited to bring him back.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we had a pre existing relationship coach Peterson and

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Speaker 1: the people here. But the guy, the guy, that talented,

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Speaker 1: talented player, but even he's even a better person. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's such a good person and people respond to him

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01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: and who he is. And when you think about what

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Speaker 1: we have in that room, you know, you have a

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Speaker 1: guy who was, in my humble opinion, the MVP of

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Speaker 1: the National Football League before he got hurt, and then

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Speaker 1: you got a guy who's a Super Bowl MVP. And

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Speaker 1: then you got this young developing quarterback who, by the way,

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Speaker 1: he kind of looks like Nick Foles. If you guys

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Speaker 1: have ever seen this Sudfeld, you know, they kind of

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Speaker 1: get recognized that. I think Nate made a young, single

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Speaker 1: guy in Philly. I think I can't confirm this for

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Speaker 1: my source of sake. He may be playing that up

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01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: to his eventage, but I mean, you think about those guys,

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Speaker 1: they genuinely liked each other. They genuinely poured each other

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Speaker 1: and they like, they like being here and it's really fun.

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Speaker 1: But um, you know, I gotta give a lot of

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01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: credit to our owner Jeffrey Lowry because obviously the financial

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01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: decision to bring Nick back UM was a big one,

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Speaker 1: a big part of this, and for him to kind

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Speaker 1: of swallow that and be willing to do it just

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01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: shows his commitment to our football team. How now, did

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Speaker 1: you guys have well hoisted the Lombardi Trophy? What is

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Speaker 1: the challenge and helping your team get back to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl to necessarily defend the crown, but to go

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Speaker 1: after another one. The hardest part really is that you

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Speaker 1: have so many players who helped you win a championship

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Speaker 1: and being able to make tough decisions with those guys

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Speaker 1: to not do things based on past performance but what

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01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: you think future performance is going to entail. And then

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Speaker 1: adding things people to the mix that have the same

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01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: competitive spirit, the same desire um to be champions and

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Speaker 1: add add that so you don't have any sort of

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01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: downtime with the team or um guys that are just

1218
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: kind of taking it easy. Bringing in the competitive players

1219
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: who kind of raised it up a notch during camp

1220
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Speaker 1: and during the season because they have that hunger and

1221
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Speaker 1: so we can't have complacency. And then we've gotta make

1222
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Speaker 1: hard decisions on guys that have meant a lot to

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Speaker 1: this franchise in this organization, and that's a hard thing

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Speaker 1: to do. It's a it's a hard thing to do

1225
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: because the easy thing is just to maintain the status

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01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: quo and go from there. Well, in order to get

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Speaker 1: to another championship, you gotta go back through that division,

1228
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Speaker 1: which you guys handled well last year. But man, when

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Speaker 1: you look across this division, the NFC East, how it

1230
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: sure seems to us out here on the outside, this

1231
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: you can make a case could be one of the

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Speaker 1: most improved divisions in football with guys getting healthy and

1233
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: some of the new additions inside the division. There's no

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Speaker 1: question about it. I mean, I think the NFC says

1235
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Speaker 1: a whole is underrated. Um you look at what's going

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Speaker 1: on throughout our division, and obviously it starts with the

1237
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Speaker 1: second pick in the draft and the Giants and um

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Speaker 1: DJ as as you know, there's a lot of nights

1239
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: that I come home in the off season and I

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01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: hear you and Bucky on pass through the draft, because

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01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 1: my boys are watching it, Um give it, given me

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01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: a hard time about how I can't hire you. They

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01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: want of you to come work in Philadelphia, but um

1244
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: we we uh, we know how you feel about the

1245
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: running back they just selected and obviously extremely talented player

1246
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: to go with an extremely talented offense and some really

1247
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: big name defensive players. And uh, you know last year

1248
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: at this time people were talking about them and the

1249
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: Cowboys and the Redskins and how talented those teams are,

1250
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: and we know, you know it's it just takes a

1251
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: little bit of confidence to get a team rolling. And um,

1252
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: we gotta work cut out for us in our division

1253
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: first before we go anywhere else. Well, the last last

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01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: question I've got for you, and we appreciate your time today.

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01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: I know it's it's busy with with practice going on

1256
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: here is have you have you purchased the costume that

1257
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: Kelsey rocked or are you just gonna keep a frame

1258
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: picture of that up at the Roseman household? What's the

1259
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,439
Speaker 1: plan here with that outfit? Yeah, I'll tell you they're

1260
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: they're having of many more awkward moments in my life.

1261
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: And then being there and him starting a speech by

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Speaker 1: talking about me and not knowing the direction he's going

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Speaker 1: to go into. Uh. I just you know, I can

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Speaker 1: picture my face, you know, as Kelsey starts to speech

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Speaker 1: and start talking to uh abound me because you know,

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Speaker 1: we we've told the players that that it was a

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Speaker 1: dry parade. I'm not sure those directions were listening. So

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Speaker 1: I I once he got up there and he started talking,

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Speaker 1: he could have gone in any direction. And my face,

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Speaker 1: my my, my whole face kind of dropped when he

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Speaker 1: mentioned it. And but he did an unbelievable job. And

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Speaker 1: and really it is the story of our football team

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Speaker 1: and our football organization. I mean, you mentioned Nick, you

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01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: mentioned Kelsey. Well, these are guys that have all been

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Speaker 1: kind of castle side, people saying hey they're done and

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01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: uh traded or people thinking we're gonna release them, and um,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a great story because it fits our city.

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01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 1: That's our city, you know, and that's what makes it

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. But we got a lot of

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01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: work to do here, and um, we're excited about the

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01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: challenge coaches. I don't believe the job in the offseason

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01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: keeping everyone focused on an off the field and we

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Speaker 1: follow his lead. You know how I can't I can't

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Speaker 1: let you go since you in the middle of storytime. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you have to you have to tell me a story

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01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 1: about DJ. Something about DJ when he's with the Eagles

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01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: or since you've known him. You got to give the

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01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 1: listeners want to know. They want to know a little

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01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: bit more about Daniel Jeremiah. So this incoming on you

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01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: to share with them. Yeah, you know, DJ is one

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Speaker 1: of the best storytellers you could ever be around. He's

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01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: always got an antidote from where he is and um,

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01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,959
Speaker 1: he can keep he gets the room captivated. That's getting

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01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: a job now, right. Uh, gotta trick him. You gotta

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01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: trick him how I gotta trick him, all right? But

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Speaker 1: but the thing about him that that I think, and

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01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: this isn't gonna be a funny shirt, but this is

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Speaker 1: the truth. There is no more family oriented human being

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Speaker 1: then Daniel, and Uh, I think in our profession, with

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01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: the amount of time world away from our families, I

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01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: think about him a lot because his commitment to his family,

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01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: um is really a testament to his character. And I

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01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: know that's whatnot what you're looking for, Bucky, but that's

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01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: how I feel about him. That works. That works. Look,

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01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: he's a great man, a great man of exemplary your faith,

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01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: so I appreciate it. Thanks so much for shotting a

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01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: little light on DJ and sharing some time with us.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate Howard, thank you for thanks for the kind's words,

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01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: and uh you know we'll uh you know, I'll always

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Speaker 1: remember what you did for me. And I'm excited for

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01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: this Eagles football team to see if you guys can

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01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: can do it one more time here. That's so excited

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Speaker 1: about it. Thanks for having me, guys, All right, take care.

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Speaker 1: How well, there you go, Buck, We've got a chance

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01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: to talk to Hall of Famer Ron Wolf and then

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01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: Rainy executive the year there and Howie Rosmen from the Eagles,

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01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,439
Speaker 1: two great guys coming on the pod. I appreciate them

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Speaker 1: sharing a little bit of their time, some of their insight,

1319
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: even though how it was a little more guarded, but

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01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 1: I felt like some of those nuggets came through. I

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01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: just believe it was a terrific opportunity to continue to

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01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 1: learn from those who have put together their teams that

1323
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: have been to the mountaintop. I think everybody who wants

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01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: to be a Scout was sprised to Scout just likes football,

1325
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 1: ship should like to hear those stories. I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: you're talking about Joe Douglas by the way saying the

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01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: answers to the test, I'm like, come on, how we

1328
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: know you're It's it's all about offensive line, defensive line,

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01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 1: and quarterback. That's a I was just trying to pull

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Speaker 1: out of him. Michael Bennett coming in. Uh see him

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01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: draft offensive lineman defensive lineman every year. Anyways, it was great,

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01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: great to catch up with with Howie. And that is

1333
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: gonna be a fascinating division there in the NFC East

1334
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: an upcoming season. Absolutely tough division. But look, you build

1335
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: your team to win your division. Gives you a chance

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01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: to get in the playoffs and it makes them make

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Speaker 1: a run. All right. That's uh, Episode number three, Hunter Buck.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned at the top, I've got some names that

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Speaker 1: snuck me there music. I like that. I have a

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Speaker 1: little fun here. Uh can we leave the bed of music,

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01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: go to the names, some key names here. I want

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Speaker 1: to make sure I don't leave anybody out. I We'll

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01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: start with Mark who green let this whole project. Thank

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01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: you very much. Mark Sully back there, hype them back there.

1345
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,439
Speaker 1: We heard from our Judah and Will Pile and td

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01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 1: T d s the one who came up with the

1347
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 1: idea of this podcast. Kent Brown, the master of the

1348
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: free throw as well as a member here for us,

1349
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: Adam Musto. I should have mentioned Musto part of the

1350
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 1: podcast over the years. D'Angelo platte, Ti Gittons, Chris Hair.

1351
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 1: Chris Hair now with the Chargers, congratulations with him on

1352
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,799
Speaker 1: that give David Singer in the whole booking department, Amanda

1353
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: Remy who took care of us out at the Elite

1354
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 1: eleven as well, and I'm at the Senior Bowl as well.

1355
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 1: Hyde them bringing in some Martin Ellie's sparkling cider. This

1356
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: is what we do with the Jeremiah household. Buck This

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01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: is tastes like Thanksgiving U Anyways, a lot of folks

1358
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: to think here. Three hundred episodes in and we've got

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Speaker 1: three one coming back. Next week we'll air our interview

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Speaker 1: with two a timego Valoa, quarterback from Alabama coming off

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01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 1: at national championship. Will also air our interview with Jared's Stidham,

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01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: one of the top qualege quarterbacks same state there at Auburn.

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01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: So we'll roll those conversations early next week. In the meantime,

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01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: but can we clean the glasses here? Oh, there were

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01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: three hundred episodes. Everybody man, that was good, That was

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01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: pretty good, that was pretty tasty. Yeah, that's we have

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Speaker 1: a Martin How do I not have a bart deal?

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01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: I don't drink, I mean Martin Ellis, I get that sponsorship. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: thanks to everybody except for Dan Hanzos. Will catch you

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Speaker 1: next time.