1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: John Cobelt Show rolls on here John Cobelt here until 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: four o'clock. Wonderfol every day after four o'clock you get 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 2: the show on demand. Just type in John cobeltcholl on demand. 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: It's a podcast. You get to listen to what you missed. 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: All right, palass fire. It's a wealthier area. Celebrities live 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: there and so it's got a lot of the attention. 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: But Alta Dina was heavily, heavily damaged, a lot of 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: deaths there nineteen deaths, and eighteen of the nineteen deaths 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: happened in West Alta Dina. This is known as the 12 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: Eaton fire. I'll call it the Altadena fire. Guy, I 13 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: don't know where Eaton is. The Altadena fire was out 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: of control for a long time, and it started on 15 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: the nine of January seventh, and many hours went by, 16 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: and it was now early in the morning on January eighth, 17 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: and in most parts of West Altadena, where they suffered 18 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: the most damage and the most deaths, no fire trucks, 19 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: no La County fire trucks ever showed up, and I 20 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: bet you the commanders at La County Fire were just 21 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: pray it every day that Karen Bass keeps mucking up 22 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: because that focused so much attention on the Palisades, and 23 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: they were hoping day by day just to slide under 24 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: the radar and people are going to forget how badly 25 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: managed the fire was in Altadena. But the La Times, 26 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: in a rare outbreak of journalism, did an extensive investigation 27 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: and found that well the headline, as West Altadena burned, 28 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: La County fire trucks stayed elsewhere. What they did is 29 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: they put in a Public Records Request Act to get 30 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: the automatic Vehicle locator data. As the fire trucks roll around, 31 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: their locations are recorded and stored and can be accessed. 32 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: And the LA Times asked, hey, can we see the data? 33 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: And it had to be shown. They say, during a 34 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: critical moment in the Eaton fire in west of Lake 35 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: Avenue in Altadena, where nearly all of the deaths took 36 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: place eighteen out of nineteen. Yeah, you don't how many 37 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: fire trucks were on duty there. One one LA County 38 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: firetruck was on duty during the worst of the fire 39 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: in West Altadena. You know why, because many County fire 40 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 2: trucks had already been deployed to the Palisades. You know why, 41 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: because Karen Bass and Kristin Crowley did not prepare and 42 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: pre deploy the fire trucks to the Palisades. So because 43 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: Karen Bass went to Africa in defiance of the wind 44 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: and fire warnings, and because Kristin Crowley was in over 45 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: her head, they were both bumbling in competence. La County 46 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: had to send a lot of it, a lot of 47 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 2: their fire trucks to the Palisades. And then when Alta 48 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 2: Dina started burning, there was nobody left to go to 49 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: Alta Dina. So Alta Dina burned so extensively because of 50 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: Bass and Crowley's incompetence in the Palisades. It's not the 51 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: only reason, but it's a big reason. More than forty 52 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: La County fire trucks surrounded the Palisades fire. The fire 53 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: was now seventeen hours old. An additional sixty four fire 54 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: trucks were fanned out across East Altadena. But in West Altadena, 55 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: where they had thousands of homes burned in eighteen deaths, 56 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: there was one County firetruck at three oh eight am, so, 57 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: there's forty trucks in the Palisades, sixty four trucks in 58 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: East Altadena, one truck in West Altadena. Primarily black neighborhoods there, 59 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: and the residents think that black residents were sacrificed for 60 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: the sake of white, wealthier residents. Can you argue with them? 61 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: Looks like they were we were abandoned, said one woman, 62 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 2: Sophia Vidal. I never heard a siren. Am I grateful 63 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: for firemen? 64 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: Not at all? 65 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: Did they fail me miserably? Absolutely? You know how bad 66 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: it was. They stayed in their house till quarter to 67 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: six in the morning that night, and they finally ran 68 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 2: out of the house. 69 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: This is going to upset you, debor. 70 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: I don't want to hear about animals. 71 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: They ran out after burning squirrels began to fall from 72 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: their palm tree. I guess the squirrels had run up 73 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: the palm tree for safety, and so there's burning squirrels 74 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: falling from the sky and that's when they decided to 75 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: get out. Of course, the LA Fire Department, they're top officials. 76 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: Anthony on the pronunciation again, LA Fire Chief Anthony Maroni, 77 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: he and the rest of him said, well, well, wind 78 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: was too intense, flames were too violent, the whole night unprecedented, 79 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: never seen anything like it. Well, if you stand around 80 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: for twelve hours and you don't send any fire trucks in, yeah, 81 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: I guess things eventually get out of control. But the 82 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: only reason they sent forty, well, the main reason they 83 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: send forty fire trucks to the Palisades is because Bass 84 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: and Kristin Crowley had screwed up so badly, so negligent, 85 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: so stupid. And then they sent sixty four fire trucks 86 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: to the east side of Altadena, where wealthier white people live, 87 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: but the black families on the west side one truck, 88 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: one truck, nearly twenty percent of the residence. According to 89 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: an Altadena public interest research firm, they interviewed twelve hundred residents, 90 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: and nearly twenty percent believe that the county fire department 91 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: let the town burn on purpose. Now that's a reasonable conclusion. 92 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: If you get one fire truck and the other side 93 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: of town gets sixty four. They're white and wealthier, you're 94 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 2: black and poor. Nobody shows up for I don't know how, 95 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: I mean twelve hours, seventeen hours. Anthony Moroney, the LA 96 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: Fire chief, says the lack of fire treeks fire trucks 97 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: in West Altadena probably boiled down to human error. Human 98 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: error by the fire officials. Well, what are their names? 99 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: And how is that an error? You could see that 100 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: the fire was burning on the west side. Is it 101 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: really hard to say, oh, wow, look at the fire 102 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: there on the west side, we should send trucks. 103 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. How do you make a mistake 104 00:07:58,840 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: on that? 105 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: Fire officials, some of them had the job to decide 106 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: where the trucks should move. They had this unified incident command, 107 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: county officials and other agencies. 108 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: Now, listen to Maroney. This is classic. 109 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: This is classic bureaucrat politician BS. What you do is 110 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: you ask a lot of questions. Now you're supposed to 111 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: answer the questions, right, and instead, you know, a reporter says, 112 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 2: well what happened? And Maroney goes, why didn't we do 113 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: a better job of dividing resources between the East and 114 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: West Altadena? Right, that's a fair question. What was going on? 115 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: What were people doing? 116 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: Don't know? 117 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: You tell me what was going on? What were people doing? Instead, 118 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 2: he asked these rhetorical questions. You must know by now 119 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 2: it's been six and a half months. Then he's got 120 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: more questions. Did people who were working the west side 121 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: not accurately communicate the dire circumstances they were faced with? Well, 122 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: tell us why, wait, he's got more. Was there a 123 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: lack of resources or were both sides of the fire 124 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: equally challenging. Well, he's offered five major questions. And then 125 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: he goes, I don't. 126 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: Know, it's been six months. 127 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. 128 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: He was watching the fire from their unified command all night. 129 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: He was making decisions about who's supposed to go where. 130 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 2: Six and a half months later, he goes, oh, well, 131 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: I've got all these questions. Huh, I don't know what 132 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: the hell out of all those questions. I don't know 133 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: which one of those it is. It's probably a little 134 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: bit of all that. Here's an answer. Huh. Gets thrown 135 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of questions to confuse everybody and say, wow, 136 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 2: it was all that was everything. It doesn't explain sixty 137 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: four trucks on the east side, one truck on the 138 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: west side. 139 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: He said, it's. 140 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: Possible other fire agencies sent trucks to West Altadena, but 141 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: his department didn't track their locations. 142 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:20,599 Speaker 1: You guys have radios. 143 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: It says the cascade of events began when the LA 144 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 2: Fire Department failed to pre deploy fire trucks to the 145 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: Pallesides to the Palisades admid dire wind warnings, so the 146 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 2: county was forced to pitch in. But West Altadena suffered 147 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: from more than being the last place to catch fire. 148 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: The vehicle locator data points to a failure within the 149 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: incident command coordinating the county's response, led that night by Oh, 150 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: we have a couple of names here, Deputy fire chiefs 151 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: Elane at Papas and Albert Janaga Sawa. They were the 152 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 2: ones in charge. They were supposed to be sending the 153 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 2: fire trucks into the right sections, and I guess they didn't. 154 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: Doesn't say it clearly, tell you more we come back. 155 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am 156 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 4: six forty. 157 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: I was telling you about the La Times investigation. 158 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: It turned out if you were in West Altadena, boy, 159 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: were you screwed over by the La County Fire Department. 160 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: They almost literally sent you nobody. They sent one county 161 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: firetruck one and that had eighteen of the nineteen deaths 162 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: from that fire in Altadena. One at three o'clock in 163 00:11:53,960 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: the morning. Now, I told you that Thingy Maroney, the 164 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: La County fire chief, who has escaped much scrutiny, unlike 165 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: Kristin Kristin Crowley, Yeah, the LA City fire chief. But 166 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: he didn't seem to have no idea what's going on? 167 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: According to the story, he just asked. He asked a 168 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: bunch of obvious questions. Why didn't we do a better job? 169 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: What was going on? What were the people doing well? 170 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: What were hundreds and hundreds of firefighters and probably dozens 171 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: of supervisors? What were you doing? One former La City 172 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: Fire Department commander said, the data that he looked at 173 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 2: because the La Times got this vehicle locator data, showed 174 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: that too many firefighters were deployed like moths to a candle. 175 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 2: In other words, they swarmed the flames that were immediately 176 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: in front of them. But he said, somebody had to 177 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 2: stand back and look at the big picture. It takes 178 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: leadership situational awareness to say, hey, guys, I understand you 179 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 2: guys are fighting the fire there, but I don't need 180 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: you there. Based on the map, you look at the weather, 181 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: the rate of the fire spread, the nine to one 182 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: one calls, I need you to defend the homes in 183 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: this other place, right, So you're not only looking at 184 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 2: where it is now, but you're using all the weather 185 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 2: and fire spread information which is available, and this automatic 186 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: vehicle locator data. They use GPS coordinates to pinpoint every 187 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: time a truck stopped. Now, some of the people who 188 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: were affected, this is heartbreaking stuff. 189 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: All right. 190 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: So while the La County public officials were dithering around, 191 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: and while some of the fire trucks were sent to 192 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: La City because Bass and Kristen Crowley were incompetent and unprepared, 193 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: look what happened to regular people. Anthony Mitchell Senior. This 194 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: is West Altadena, sixty eight year old amputee. His son 195 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: has cerebral palsy. They called nine to one one three times, 196 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: no aid came. 197 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: They died. Uh Monterrosa Drive. 198 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: Victor Shaw, aged sixty six, died trying to fight the 199 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: flames with a garden hose. A neighbor called nine one 200 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: one on Tanya Avenue. Arlene Kelly, eighty three years old, 201 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: died after calling nine one one twice. Her son, Trevor Kelly, 202 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: tried to rescue her at six in the morning. He 203 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: was inching through oily black smoke was too thick to 204 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: even see what the truck's high beams, and. 205 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: All this time later, there's no explanation. 206 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: Of course, they have investigations going on, but six and 207 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: a half months is enough. It's like, what's this other 208 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: thing I've got here? Newsom has got an investigation that 209 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: they're going to announce soon all the things his administration 210 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: did right and wrong about the COVID lockdown, now in 211 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, five and a half years after he 212 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: started the lockdown. 213 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be one thousand pages. 214 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: In this report, A thousand pages. 215 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: Something like that. Very comprehensive, John, I bet you. 216 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: It's very complicated, so people get bored very quickly. Do 217 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: you think this report is going to be an honest 218 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: assessment in Gavin Nuwsan's performance. What are the odds of that, 219 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: as he prepares his presidential run, that we are going 220 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: to hear all the things Gavin new Some did wrong 221 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty or. 222 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 3: All the things that he told us to do that 223 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: he didn't do. 224 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, maybe I'm sure maybe there's probably 225 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: some websites that track him. I think, actually, Katie Grimes, 226 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: he has kept a running list of every stupid thing 227 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: he's done over the last six and a half years, 228 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: because people need reminders. This news cycle is so fast. 229 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I can't remember by the end of our 230 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: show what we did at the beginning of the show, 231 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: and the next day forget about it. And if I'm 232 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: forgetting it, you probably forget a lot of the stuff 233 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: that you're reading, all right, because it's like a constant 234 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: fire hose. I know everybody listening is forgetting this, and 235 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: you have to go back and actually list and read 236 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: the list out loud to refresh your memory what the 237 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: last five and a half years have been like, because 238 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: life change dramatically. 239 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: Once that lockdown hit, you know. 240 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: Then we you know it's that, and then all the 241 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: stupid George Floyd protests and all the businesses closing and 242 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: the riots that summer, and the restaurants were all shut down, 243 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: and so many people lost their businesses, and so many 244 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: schools were shut down for a year and a half, 245 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 2: and so many kids lost really got brain damaged from 246 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: a lack of education for a year and a half. 247 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: And it's just been all these dominans falling ever since. 248 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: Now you know, Newsom is finally he did what he 249 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 2: wanted to do. The oil industry is shutting down, by 250 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: the way. We're gonna talk a lot about that after 251 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: three o'clock with Michael mcche, the USC professor, because yesterday 252 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: big news at the end of the day was Newsom 253 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: is frantically trying to get a buyer for the Valero 254 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: oil refinery in Benetia, which is closing in April, and 255 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: between that and the second refinery that's closing in Wilmington 256 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: is going to be eight bucks a gallon. In fact, 257 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: the state's own estimate now is eight bucks a gallon, 258 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: all right, the state is saying it's eight dollars. That's 259 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: why he's frantically trying to find a buyer because for years, 260 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 2: what I read one story is yeah, we're down to 261 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 2: about seven. We'll be down to about seven refineries. So 262 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 2: be listening. After three o'clock we'll delve into this and well, see, 263 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, does anything happen to all these LA 264 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: County Fire department chiefs and commanders and this, and then 265 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: does anything happen to them? 266 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 5: I think they have to come out against people and 267 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 5: then they'll get fired because look what happened to Crowley. 268 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: Oh if they all right, they. 269 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 5: Have to talk badly about politicians and then they'll be fired. 270 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: Right right. You know the LA County Supervisor Board, those geniuses. 271 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: You know, that's how they're hiding. They don't say anything. 272 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: What's their role, what's their role in not having the 273 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: fire department prepared. I'm gonna keep going after all these people. 274 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 2: I'm not this this ding. I don't care if it 275 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 2: takes ten years. I'm not letting all this rest. They 276 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: they have destroyed a lot of the city in the county, 277 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 2: not just with the fire, but with all kinds of 278 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: other garbage, nonsense policies. 279 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 280 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 4: six forty. 281 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 282 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: More stimulating talk radio and all that. The Moist Fine, 283 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 2: we have vacancies openings, time for you to call in 284 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: and let it out eight seven seven Moist eighty six 285 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 2: eight seven seven Moist eighty six eight seven seven sixty 286 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 2: six four seven eight eight six talkback feature on the 287 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app works as well. 288 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: Yes, I just just to follow up. I found the story. 289 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: You're right, thousand pages for Governor Newsom's COVID nineteen investigative 290 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: report California Health and Human Services and independent experts, experts, 291 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 2: and uh, it's gonna come out within a month. And uh, 292 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: he actually admitted this on one of those idiot podcasts 293 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: he's been doing. Now what I think Katie Grimes wrote this, 294 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: She was wondering, are they gonna do an investigation of 295 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: him going to the French laundry in traveling to Mexico? Him? Oh, 296 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: that billion dollar, the billion dollar Chinese mask scandal. Remember 297 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: he spent a billion dollars in tax money for Chinese masks. 298 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: The thirty one billion dollars that we blew on unemployment fraud, 299 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 2: his multiple failed homeless COVID housing plans. 300 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: I didn't even know what that is. 301 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: Wasn't his Uh doesn't he have a winery or something? 302 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 303 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And his kid's private schools were open. This is 304 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: what hit me the other day is he let the 305 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 2: public schools stay closed while his own kids are going 306 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: to a private school. And nobody at the private school, 307 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 2: nothing bad happened to them, right, Nobody got sick, nobody died. 308 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 2: If they got sick, it was very minor. So he's 309 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: got this in his face every day his kid he's 310 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: helping his kids off to school presumably every day, and 311 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 2: every day they're coming home from school, and it didn't 312 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 2: occur to him like, wow, there's millions of kids who 313 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: can't go because of me, because of me, millions. 314 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: But obviously he. 315 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: Had a test case right in his right in his 316 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 2: kitchen every morning that nothing bad was happening for kids 317 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 2: to go to school. 318 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: He can't go home, or he didn't. We didn't know 319 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: about the research, you know, we had to take some 320 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: time and do study. No, your study was your own 321 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: children at your own kitchen table. 322 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: In the morning, having breakfast, and then they'd come home 323 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: to have dinner, and they'd tell you what went. 324 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: On at school. 325 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: Ah. 326 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 5: Well, all the people at the French laundry also presumably survived. 327 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: That was my question that nobody's ever asked him. If 328 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: you thought it was such a deadly disease, you were 329 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 2: not nervous at all being stuck in that that that. 330 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: Room, because they were in a private room. It was 331 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: entirely enclosed. 332 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: They were all bunched up together, about a dozen of them, 333 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 2: at a small table. Nobody's wearing masks. It's like if 334 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 2: you believed that it was. It was so deadly and 335 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: so easy to get. Why weren't you nervous that night? Instead, 336 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: they're all drinking wine. And he's got health officials like 337 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: from the from the industry that he that the lobbyists 338 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: from the health industry that he's drinking the line with, 339 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: like I, you know, as much of a as much 340 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 2: abuse as he got, he didn't get enough right just 341 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: to go in a different direction for a minute. They 342 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 2: caught the guy who was hurling concrete blocks at the 343 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 2: federal agents during the Ice riots. You know the reason 344 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 2: we got the National Guarden. They finally arrested him. He'd 345 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: run over the border into Mexico. His name is Elpedio Rena. 346 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: He was on the FBI's most wanted list for throwing 347 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 2: the concrete blocks at the agents. Border patrol officer took 348 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 2: him into custody. And he's thirty nine years old. Thirty 349 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: nine years old and he's throwing concrete. What God knows 350 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: what kind of crimes this animals committed in his life. 351 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 2: I wonder who his rap sheet is. I wonder how 352 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: many times he's spun through the system here thirty nine? 353 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: What I mean that is violent insanity, picking. 354 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: Up concrete blocks, throwing him at cops. 355 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 2: SA Anyway, they sent out a lot of images of him, 356 00:23:59,440 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: and guess what. 357 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: One of the images, he's got a mask up to 358 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: his nose. Well you can see his eyes. It's like 359 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: the agents are not allowed to. 360 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: Have masks, but this guy who's trying to kill them, 361 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: he was wearing a mask. They got him at the 362 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 2: sand you see, you're a point of entry, and Bill Saley, 363 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 2: the US attorney, said, uh, he was taken into custody 364 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: by a Porta Patrol officer who was inside one of 365 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: the vehicles that Raina had thrown the concrete blocks at originally. 366 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: So he's he's going to get the book thrown at him. 367 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: Now. 368 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 2: This guy named Mike Davis, who's written a piece at 369 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: the Federalist dot com. You. A week or two ago, 370 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: I think Karen Vass held a press conference and announced 371 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: that you know, she was angry over the ice ra 372 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 2: it's the only thing that gets her upset. And she 373 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 2: announced a plan to hand out cash cards a couple 374 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: of hundred dollars to illegal aliens. And everybody's wondering where 375 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 2: you're getting the money. It's not tax money, it's from 376 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 2: philanthropic groups. Immigrants rights groups will handle it. See she's 377 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 2: fully in support of the network of illegal alien charity groups, 378 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 2: many of them who get tax money from people well. 379 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: Mike Davis points out that. 380 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: Providing for illegal immigrants, giving them cash, food, or resources 381 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: is a federal crime, and he lists the Federal Code 382 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: eight USC one three two four. It's called harboring illegal immigrants, 383 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 2: and he says the law is not aimed at restaurant 384 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 2: owners or grocery clerks. Lawmakers designed it to stop politicians 385 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 2: and activists who deliberately help illegal immigrants. So with Bass 386 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: getting money from philanthro philanthropists and giving it out through 387 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: these immigrant rights groups, David says, this is a blatant 388 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 2: violation of federal law. They're not helping needy people at random. 389 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 2: They're specifically helping people who enter or remain in the 390 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: US illegally. That is harboring and the Department of Justice, 391 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 2: he says, should open an immediate investigation who's funding this scheme. 392 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: There should be indictments for the donors and the activists, 393 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 2: and if Bass or any other officials organize this operation, 394 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 2: they need to face the consequences. He's right, that is 395 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 2: the federal law, all these immigrant rights groups can be 396 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: charged with federal crimes. He says, this is a test 397 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: of whether the law means anything anymore. If an a 398 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: regular American did this, he'd get thrown in jail. So 399 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: why should a politician or liberal billionaire funded activist groups 400 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: get a free pass. Well, that's what would happened. When 401 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 2: I say, say, you're standing in all these press conference, 402 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: it hit me, it's like you should You're not allowed 403 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 2: to do that. But nobody's got the guts to actually 404 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 2: charge these groups, do the investigation. 405 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: It won't be hard to prove and arrest her. 406 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 2: What you need is one politician in one of these 407 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 2: cities to get arrested by one of the charged by 408 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: one of the US attorneys one, and that'll stop this 409 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 2: nonsense real fast, because they all are breaking the law. 410 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 2: Nobody's got the guts to do this. Now, when we 411 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: come back, I have a heartwarming story about just how 412 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 2: horrible that L. Salvador prison is the one, the one 413 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: that Trump sent illegal aliens to, who, even by my standards, 414 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: this may me flinch. Yeah, you do not want to 415 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: end up on a plane to the L. Salador in 416 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: Supermac's prison. That's that and and once you get there 417 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 2: you really need to behave I'll tell you all about it. 418 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 2: Of course I find. 419 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: All this funny. 420 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 3: I know you do. 421 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 422 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 4: six forty. 423 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: We only need less than fifty followers, and we hit 424 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 2: thirty thousand, and there's no price for this. But we'll 425 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 2: be happy here if you just follow us on social media. 426 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 2: It's actually only thirty now, thirty people, yep, oh, come on, 427 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 2: that should be no problem, Bolo. You know, after a 428 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: while you get people who don't know what social media 429 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 2: is or don't have phones or something like that coming 430 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: up after three o'clock. And this really is the big 431 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: story of the day, and we did a lot of 432 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: this in the one o'clock hour. 433 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: Real deal. 434 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: Gas prices could hit eight dollars a gallon early next 435 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 2: year because they are closing two refineries in California. One 436 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 2: is in Bentiate, it's the Valero refinery. And now, now, 437 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: after all these years of punishing the oil companies with 438 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: all their regulation and taxes, Newsom is panicking because he 439 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 2: can't run for president because this campaign would start next year. 440 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: He can't run for President, and while gas is hitting 441 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: eight dollars a gallon in his state, what's he going 442 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: to do? 443 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: Well? 444 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: Now, he's frantically trying to find a buyer for the 445 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: Valero Benetia refinery. But no oil company is going to 446 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: take that over if it means they're going to lose 447 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: all the money that the Llo is losing. So he 448 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 2: would have to scrap a lot of his regulations, all 449 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: that climate change garbage, and scrap all those taxes. 450 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: So that's going to be very entertaining. All right. 451 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: Now, we were telling you about they caught the illegal 452 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: alien who threw these cement blocks at an ICE agent. 453 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 2: They caught him over the border, well actually at the 454 00:29:53,520 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 2: Sane Sidro border border station the Atlantic. This is this 455 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: is the headline that caught my eye. You're writing headlines 456 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 2: for a living. This made me stop. No one was 457 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: supposed to leave alive, don't dun't dun Yeah, And I thought, oh, 458 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: this sounds good, this sounds like something entertaining. Uh So 459 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: it's about the Venezuelan illegal aliens. Most of the criminals 460 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: that we sent to El Salvador to that supermax prison. 461 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: We paid the l Salvador and President six million dollars. 462 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 2: Take all these guys, and these were a lot of them, 463 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 2: were trend to irod with gang members and similar similar species. 464 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: So some of these Venezuelans they got they got tired 465 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 2: of the way they were being treated. Yeah, they did 466 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 2: something stupid. They tried to break the locks on their cells. 467 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 2: They grabbed metal rails from their beds and tried to 468 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: smash the locks. Now they had no chance of escaping. 469 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 2: They were just acting out. But the punishments were pretty severe. 470 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 2: For six straight days, according to three inmates, they were 471 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 2: subjected to lengthy beatings. On the last day, the male 472 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: guards brought in their female colleagues, female guards who struck 473 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 2: the naked prisoners while the male guards recorded videos and laughed. 474 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 2: They had their phones out recording the women beating the men. 475 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: That's cold, yeah, but the women did it. 476 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: The women would count to twenty they as they administered 477 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: the beatings, and if the prisoners complained, they. 478 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: Would start again. 479 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: In fact, if they cried out in any way, if 480 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: they cried out from pain. Uh, we're going back to one, one, two, three. Ah. 481 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: Although there are a lot of guys in LA who 482 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 2: would pay a lot of money to get beaten by 483 00:31:54,560 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 2: a female dressed up as a guard. Oh Martinez, one 484 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: of the inmates said, a prison nurse was watching and 485 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: she started cheering. She started shouting out, hit the pinata. 486 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: El Salvador is a tough place. That's a girl, that's 487 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: a nurse. Hit the pinnata. This is the complex on 488 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 2: a seacot and the country Security minister when they opened 489 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 2: it in twenty twenty three said you'd only be able 490 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: to get out of it inside a coffin, and in 491 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 2: fact that's pretty close to the truth. They have documented 492 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: case of prisoners being transported out of jail for urgent 493 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: medical care, probably beatings, and all the inmates died soon after, 494 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 2: and nobody was ever able to explain what was like inside. 495 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: Now that's when this president Bukayley, he decided that they 496 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: were just going to round up all the gang members 497 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,959 Speaker 2: and all the bad guys on the streets because El 498 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 2: Salvador used to have one of the highest rates of 499 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: murder in the world. And you know what happened after 500 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: he did this massive round up. It was like thousands 501 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: of bad guys, murder rate drop a ninety seven percent. 502 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 2: Public's really happy. 503 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: Imagine that. 504 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 2: Imagine ninety seven percent of the murder rate disappears. And 505 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 2: so I look at the US with its justice systems, 506 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: prison system, and I'm thinking, No, I like l Salvador. 507 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm serious, it works in El Salvador. What do we 508 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: need this for. I don't. 509 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear about rehabilitation, restorative justice and 510 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: all diversion programs. No, put him in prison forever and 511 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: give give the women metal rails to beat them with. 512 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: Let the nurses cheer them on. Yeah, President Ai Bukyley. 513 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 2: Men are cramped to cells, bare metal bunk beds stacked 514 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 2: to the ceiling, but human shelving. 515 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: The No. 516 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 2: If you've seen the videos and these guys of the photos, 517 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 2: no you haven't. You looked them up, They're there. 518 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: They all. 519 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 2: Many of these guys are almost entirely encased in tattoos. 520 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 2: Their heads are shaven, so from from their feet all 521 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 2: the way up to the top of their heads, everything's green. 522 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 2: They look like frightening aliens. And they all have these 523 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 2: tattooed designs over their whole body. They usually are laid 524 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 2: out in their tidy whities, that's all they're wearing. So 525 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: it's tidy whities, tattoos covering every square inch and uh. 526 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: And so the Salvadoran government has turned the prison into 527 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 2: a kind of a museum where all these, according to 528 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 2: this writer, where all of Boucheli's tactics can be exhibited 529 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 2: for the press. So they like to show off how 530 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 2: awful the conditions are. And some of the prisoners, some 531 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 2: of the prisoners that were sent by the Trump administration 532 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: have been let out, and the Venezuelan president negotiated a 533 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 2: prisoner swap with the US, so there were ten American 534 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 2: citizens released from Venezuela in exchange for some of the 535 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 2: Venezuelans in Al Salvador. And so they're the ones who 536 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: told the stories of the beatings and the harsh treatment. 537 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 2: Four former prisoners said they were punched, kicked, struck with clubs, 538 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 2: They were cut off from contact with their families, no 539 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 2: legal help, taunted by guards. They would spend days in 540 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: a punishment cell known as the Island, a dark room 541 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 2: with no water. They slept on the floor. So what's 542 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 2: your problem, how about their doing it? If you're in there, 543 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 2: don't try to smash the locks of the cell door. 544 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 2: And you know they have various sob stories here, I'm 545 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 2: telling you there's not one person listing right now who 546 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 2: you would not Almost every one of you would enjoy 547 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 2: life if this is how we treated prisoners in this country. 548 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 2: Just lock them up for good, beat the crap out 549 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 2: of them. 550 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: Cots. 551 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 5: We know that they're truly guilty, because you know, I 552 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 5: have watched some of those those movies Presumed Innocent and 553 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 5: whatever those movies are where you know that you do 554 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 5: the DNA testing and it turns out that somebody was 555 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 5: wrongfully accused. So that's that's my only issue. But people 556 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 5: that truly have committed these heinous crimes, I don't care 557 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 5: what happens. 558 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: This is what Coburger should get. 559 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 2: Coburger should have a day as a pinata Menandez brothers, 560 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 2: they should have gotten thirty five years. 561 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: Worth of this. Instead, it's like, oh, if kid so 562 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: I have to get out. 563 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 3: I think he had one or two surgeries. 564 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 2: Eric zero sympathy. I have lost all my sympathy and 565 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 2: empathy for bad guys. No, there is no punishment, no torture. 566 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 2: That's too much for me. 567 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 3: Would you want to watch it though, certain guys? Yeah, 568 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be squeamish. 569 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: I am squeamish. I don't like violence at all, Okay, 570 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: I almost never watch violence. 571 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 3: Okay, so you probably wouldn't want to watch, but. 572 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: If they deserved it, I get it, you know, I 573 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: get it. That's the exception. Coburger. Yeah, I could watch that. 574 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could get in line. 575 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, are you going to party? 576 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: If it's hit the Pinata time and it's a guy 577 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: like Coburger, I'm. 578 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,720 Speaker 5: In Eric would be loving putting that on social media. 579 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 5: John whacking Coburger. 580 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: We'd get a lot of likes when we come back. 581 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 2: Michael MChE on the California gas prices could hit eight 582 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 2: a gallon those those refineries really are closing, and the 583 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 2: one in Benetia Valero is closing, and Governor Newsom's in 584 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 2: a panic. 585 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: He's trying to get some. 586 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 2: Company to buy it because he knows where the gas 587 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 2: prices are going. 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