1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: From the Bloomberg Interactive Burgers Studios. This is Bloomberg day 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Break for Thursday, June First. 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 2: Coming up today, the death limit deal is close to 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: the finish line after winning passage in the House. 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: Mike Pence is the latest to enter the Republican race 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: for president. 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: Talk of a rate high pause or a skip grows 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: louder from the Fat. 9 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: And Elon Musk wraps up his visit to China. 10 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: Investigators reportedly have a reporting a former President Trump admitting 11 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 3: he kept a secret military document, plus deadly attacks in Ukraine. 12 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: I'm Michael Barr. 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 4: More ahead, John Stans showIn sports, the Yankees lost in 14 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 4: Seattle one to nothing in ten innings. The metsmath the Phillies. 15 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 4: The NBA Finals begin tonight. 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 5: That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg day Break, The business 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 5: news You need to starn your day in just one 18 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 5: fifteen minute podcast each morning on Apples, Spotify, The Bloomberg 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 5: Business Appen everywhere you get your podcasts. 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: Good morning, I'm Amy Morris and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: are the stories we're following today. 22 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: The House has passed a bill raising the dead limit. 23 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 2: The measure also cuts federal spending by trillions of dollars 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: over two years. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy says, Republicans delivered 25 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: for the American taxpayer. 26 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 4: Tonight. 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,639 Speaker 6: We all made history because this is the biggest cut 28 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 6: and savings this Congress has ever voted for. 29 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: Speaker McCarthy calls it the biggest spending cut in American history. 30 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 2: But progressive Democrats are slamming the bill. Representative Corey Bush 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 2: of Missouri says the cuts will hit vulnerable groups. 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 5: This was a bad deal. 33 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: We have a big board from the progressives. 34 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: They say this is a bad deal, and so we 35 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: stood up to that. 36 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: Representative Bush calls those work requirements for snap recipients ineffective. 37 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: The bill now heads to the Senate, where passage is 38 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: virtually certain, although Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has already said 39 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: he'll vote against it. The question now is timing. The 40 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: President has to sign the bill before June fifth to 41 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: avoid a default. 42 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: Well, reaction is pouring into the dead agreement. Amy Bloomberg 43 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: Politics contributor Genie Shehans Zeno says, in the end, both 44 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: parties came together, but there are still many lawmakers unhappy 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: with the deal. 46 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 7: I would say nobody really wins in this process. Did 47 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 7: the center win? I think certainly in this case, the 48 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 7: center delivered, and that is critically important at a time 49 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 7: of you know, so much partisan ranker. On the other hand, 50 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 7: let's remember what we're talking about. We're talking about saving 51 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 7: the country from its first default in American history. 52 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Politics contributor Genie shehan ZnO notes one hundred and 53 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: seventeen members of the House voted against the measure, three 54 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen voted for it. Roughly two thirds of 55 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: House Republicans supported the bill. 56 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: And that's not all that's going on in the world 57 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: of politics this morning. The race for president is about 58 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 2: to get a bit more crowded. We're learning former Vice 59 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: President Mike Penn's plans to officially launch his bid next week. 60 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Ad Baxter has that story. 61 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 8: If the plan holds, it will be next Wednesday in Iowa. 62 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 8: Pence has been laying the groundwork for this for more 63 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 8: than a year. He has visited early voting states and 64 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 8: promoted his autobiography. As he challenges Donald Trump, he faces 65 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 8: polling problems. Real Clear Politics has him with less than 66 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 8: four percent in the GOP Bloomberg sources say he plans 67 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 8: to offer himself as the only viable traditional conservative in 68 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 8: the field, with Ron DeSantis far to the right in 69 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 8: San Francisco. I'm at Baxter Bloomberg daybreak. 70 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: All righted? Thanks? So, outside of politics, Wall Street is 71 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: laser focused on what the Fed does next to where 72 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: in less than two weeks from the Central Bank's next meeting, 73 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: and there's growing talk of a rate pause. Here's Fed 74 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: a Reserve Governor Phillip Jefferson. 75 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 9: A decision to hold our policy rate constant at a 76 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 9: coming meeting should not be interpreted to me that we 77 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 9: have reached the peak rate for this cycle. Indeed, skipping 78 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 9: a rate hike at a coming meeting would allow the 79 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 9: committee to see more data before making decisions about the 80 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 9: extent of additional policy firming. 81 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 10: Thank. 82 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: Governor Philip Jefferson, who's been nominated to serve as vice chair, 83 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: says he's looking to tomorrow's jobs report is a key 84 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: reading and word of a. 85 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: Pause is nothing new. But how about a skip in 86 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 2: rate hikes? That's the latest rhetoric coming out of the 87 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: Central Bank. From Philadelphia Fed President Patrick Harker. 88 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 11: I am in the camp increasingly coming into this meeting 89 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 11: thinking that we really should skip, not pause. I don't 90 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 11: like the word pause, but skip an increase. 91 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Fed President Patrick Harker says the Central Bank doesn't 92 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: have to hike at every meeting, but he appears to 93 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: like the optionality that a term like skip may offer 94 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: policy makers. 95 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 7: Well. 96 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: Any other news we are following this morning brings us 97 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: to the world's richest ban. Elon Musk is on his 98 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: way home after wrapping up his first visit to China 99 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: since the pandemic, and we get the latest from Bloomberg's 100 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: John Tucker, John. 101 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 10: And Karen is Private gena part of Shanghai. This morning 102 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 10: local time, he wrapped up the whorldwind Tour meeting staff 103 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 10: at Tesla's Shanghai plant. Tesla's China team showed the Boss 104 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 10: the first trial production CARB, the revamped Model three. Like 105 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 10: other Auto Titans, he's strengthening ties with Beijing, just as 106 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 10: the Biden administration and other Western leaders try to less 107 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 10: in dependence on China. Mus apparently didn't want to ruffle 108 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 10: any feathers during the visit. He was absent on Twitter. 109 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 10: Musk has had his longest absence from the platform since 110 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 10: June of twenty twenty two. 111 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: Now. 112 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 10: A lot of foreign social media platforms are banned in China, 113 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 10: including Twitter, although it's easy to get around the band. 114 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 10: Musk also may have popped a bottle of champagne on 115 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 10: the way home after learning that he's regained his title 116 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 10: as World's richest in New York. I'm John Tucker, Bloomberg Daybreak. 117 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: All right, thank you, John Elon. Musk and Jamie Diamond 118 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: aren't the only ceo spending time in China this week. 119 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: Bloomberg News has learned and Vidia CEO En Wang is 120 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: heading to China to meet with tech executives in the 121 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: world's biggest chip market, and Nvidia has emerged as a 122 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: critical player in artificial intelligence, its position in China is complicated. 123 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: US sanctions prevent the semiconductor company from selling its most 124 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: advanced AI chipsets to Chinese customers, including Tencent and by Dance. 125 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 1: On other corporate news this morning, Amy, a top Walmart executive, 126 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: says the retailer remains committed to its Pride Month offerings. 127 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: The decision comes as competitor Target is embroiled at a 128 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: controversy over similar products. Target removes some items from its 129 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: collection for Pride Month in June which honors lesbian, gay, bisexual, 130 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: and transgender people. Targets hit a rationist threats made workers 131 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: feel unsafe. This is Bloomberg. 132 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: Thank you, Karen. Time now for a look at some 133 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 2: of the other stories making news in New York and 134 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 2: around the world. For that, we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 135 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: Good morning, Michael, Good morning. Amy. Russian forces began June 136 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: with the fresh round of missile strikes in Ukraine, killing 137 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 3: at least three people and wounding others. The Russian strikes 138 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: at apartment buildings and a medical clinic and the capitol Kiev. Meanwhile, 139 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 3: NATO foreign ministers continue their meetings today in Norway, discussing 140 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: Ukraine's possible future in the Alliance. NATO Secretary General Jen Stoltenberg, the. 141 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 12: Most urgent and important task now is to ensure that 142 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 12: Ukraine prevails as a sovereign, independent nation. Preston Putin, Russia 143 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 12: must not win this war. 144 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: US Secretary of State Blincoln also arrived in Oslo today. 145 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: Several media outlets report that Justice Department prosecutors have obtained 146 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: an audio recording a former President Donald Trump after he 147 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: left office, in which he talks about holding on to 148 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: a classified document related to a potential attack on Iran. 149 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 3: The twenty twenty one recording at his golf club in 150 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: Bedminster would appear to undercut his repeated claims that he 151 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 3: declassified the documents he took with him from the White 152 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 3: House to mar A Lago. New York City officials are 153 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: calling on the federal government to help with the surge 154 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: of migrants coming from the southern border Texas and to 155 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: have bus tens of thousands of migrants to sanctuary cities 156 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: around the country, including New York. During its first public 157 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: meeting on UFOs, a NASA panel revealed it has reviewed 158 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,559 Speaker 3: more than eight hundred cases of what is now called 159 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 3: unidentified anomalist phenomena or UAPs. NASA astrobiologist David Grinspoon says 160 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: that his team is working on how to measure life 161 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: on other planets and whether it's connected to UAPs. 162 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 13: We look for things like anomaloust gases in the atmospheres 163 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 13: of planets and other anomalies which may possibly reveal the 164 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 13: presence of life. When we discover such an anomaly, we 165 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 13: don't conclude that we've discovered life. We seek more data. 166 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: The largest mass transit provider in America reached to potential 167 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: labor agreement with its subway operators and bus drivers. The 168 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: agreement with New York's Metropolitan Transportation Authority securest transit workers 169 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 3: annual raises of almost ten percent compounded over three years. 170 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 3: Teen birth rates have fallen to their lowest levels ever, 171 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: according to New Federal DANA. The report from the CBC 172 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: showed that the team birth rate in twenty twenty two 173 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: was thirteen point five per one thousand females. Global News 174 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 3: twenty four hours a day, powered by more than twenty 175 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: seven hundred journalists nalysts in over one hundred and twenty countries. 176 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 3: I'm michae lebar this is Bloomberg Gaming. 177 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: All right, Thank you, Michael. Time now for our Bloomberg 178 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 2: Sports update. For that, we bring in John stash Hour. 179 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: Thanks Amy. The Yankees had scored thirty runs in their 180 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 4: last three games, but in Seattle, not one in ten innings. 181 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: The Mariners scored in the tenth won one to nothing, 182 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 4: Yanks wasting nine scoreless innings from Clark Smidwandi, Parlton, Clay Holmes. 183 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 4: Seattle's George Kirby, the twenty five year old Westchester native 184 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 4: who had allowed seven runs. In his previous outing, Herald 185 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 4: eight scoreless, allowing only three hits. Yanks off tonight, visit 186 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 4: the Dodgers tomorrow, Mets this afternoon. Jill for a sweep 187 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 4: of the Phillies after the two to nothing win, a 188 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 4: four to one victory at City Field. Carlos carrasco three 189 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 4: relievers teaming to beat the Phils. Aaron Nola Mark Canna 190 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 4: drove in all four met runs. NBA coaching carousel, another 191 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 4: coach who just got fired got another job. Nick Nurse 192 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 4: went from Toronto to the Philadelphia. Now Monty Williams fired 193 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 4: in Phoenix, hired in Detroit. He's gonna make thirteen million 194 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 4: a year. Here's Denver's coach Michael Malone on the eve 195 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 4: of the start tonight of the NBA Finals. 196 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 6: This is gonna be the biggest challenge of our lives 197 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 6: to see NBA Finals. This is you trying to win 198 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 6: the first NBA championship in franchise history. It's gonna be 199 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 6: the hardest thing that we've ever done, which is the 200 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 6: way he should be. 201 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 4: It's the Nuggets in the eight, Denver in the playoffs. 202 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 4: It's twelve and three eight and I went home with 203 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 4: Miami six and four on the road, just had three 204 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 4: wins in Boston. Veteran white out de Andre Hopkins as 205 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 4: a free agent after getting released by Arizona. The Jets 206 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 4: say they are not interested. Giants coach Brian Dabole says 207 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 4: they will do their due diligence. French open the one, 208 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 4: three and five seeds all one. That's Carlos Alcaraznovak, Djokovic 209 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 4: and Stefandos Sits the pass. Second round matches coming up 210 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: for Americans Taylor, It's Francis Tfo and Coco cow John 211 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,599 Speaker 4: stash Our Bloomberg Sports. 212 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 5: From coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, 213 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 5: Boston to Washington, d C. Nationwide on Syrias Exam, the 214 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 5: Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 215 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, im Amy Morris. The House passed that 216 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: debt limit bill. It would put limits on government spending 217 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: through the twenty twenty four election and avert a destabilizing 218 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: US default. And now it heads to the Senate. It 219 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: is expected to pass, but it's also expected to receive 220 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: a little pushback there. We're joined now by the co 221 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: director of the Center on US Politics, Julie Norman at 222 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 2: University College London. Julie, it's always a pleasure. Thank you 223 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: for taking the time with us this morning. Some pretty 224 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: vehement no votes from the Freedom Caucus, from the Progressive 225 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: Caucus in the House. Do you expect similar pushback in 226 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: the Senate? 227 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 14: Well, good morning, Amy. You know this was going to 228 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 14: be tough in both houses. I would say getting it 229 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 14: through the House of Representatives was key. I think that 230 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 14: was the big vote that everyone was watching. Could McCarthy 231 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 14: get the vote votes, could they get this over the line. 232 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 14: The Senate will still have holdouts, but the Senate, I 233 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 14: think it's more a question of how fast it will 234 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 14: move through rather than if it will move through. We're 235 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 14: expecting procedural votes to start really as soon as possible. 236 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 14: It's really a question as to how many senators try 237 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 14: and throw in amendments, try and kind of muck up 238 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 14: the process a little bit. But we've heard from the 239 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 14: leadership on both sides, both Schumer and McConnell saying, look, 240 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 14: we've got to get this through fast, guys, and just 241 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 14: like keep this moving as much as possible. 242 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: So what are the sticking points? 243 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 14: Well, for Republicans, it's pretty much that it doesn't go 244 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 14: far enough. You know, the bill that House Republicans had 245 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 14: put out that many senter Republicans also wanted, had much 246 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 14: deeper cuts for a much longer length of time. So 247 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 14: for some conservative senators Mike Lee and Utah for example, 248 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 14: Ron Paul are saying, you know this, this doesn't go 249 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 14: far enough. We're going to push for a little bit more. 250 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 14: On the other hand, you have some of the more progressive 251 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 14: Democrats Bernie Sanders Elizabeth Warren saying, look, this is too 252 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 14: many concessions on work requirements for AID. I'm pulling back 253 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 14: some of our priorities. So we're also not going to 254 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 14: endorse this. So again you have some individuals, I think 255 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 14: on both ends who will not throw their weight behind it. 256 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 14: But there does seem to be a bit more confidence 257 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 14: that there's more in the Senate who can get this 258 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 14: over the line from both parties. 259 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: Does this tell you anything about the ability for these 260 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: two sides to be able to strike deals on other issues? 261 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: Does this signal a glimmer of comedy and I mean 262 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: co mity comedy in a bitterly divided Congress. 263 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 14: I wish we could say there were broader hope from this. 264 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 14: But I would say we should take comfort in the 265 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 14: fact that bipartisanship did work this time around in the 266 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 14: House forgetting this deal through. That was definitely not a 267 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 14: given going into this process. And there's just so many 268 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 14: times you can keep pulling a rabbit out of the 269 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 14: hat on the debt ceiling, and they managed to do 270 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 14: it with the House. And I do think it was 271 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 14: because of the leadership of both Biden and McCarthy and 272 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 14: really the moderates on both parties realizing the severity of 273 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 14: this situation and getting it through. I don't think that 274 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 14: will be the case on you know, most other issues. 275 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: I think there were. 276 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 14: Clearer heads prevailed and just realized we cannot hit this 277 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 14: June fifth date. And that's really what mobilized most of 278 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 14: these votes more than the concessions from one party or 279 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 14: the other. 280 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: You know how things on Capitol Hill always tend to 281 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: be a zero sum game. Did anybody win? Did President 282 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: Biden win? Did Speaker McCarthy win? Can they both chalk 283 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: it up as a victory? 284 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 14: Well, Amil, depends who you ask, right, I mean, both 285 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 14: both Biden and McCarthy will try and chalk this up 286 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 14: as a win. McCarthy is definitely trying to tell Republicans, look, 287 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 14: this is the biggest cuts in history, you know, making 288 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 14: pretty grand claims about what was really, in all honesty, 289 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 14: pretty modest. Bill Biden, on the other hand, I think, 290 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 14: can make the case that he protected a lot of 291 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 14: programs and funding that Republics had really set out to cut. 292 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 14: So both will spin it in their own, you know, 293 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 14: in their own favor, and my sense is that the 294 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 14: public is responding as such as well. You know, when 295 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 14: this was going down to the wire, most Republicans were 296 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 14: blaming democrats, most Democrats were blaming Republicans, and so politically 297 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 14: all probably come out to a wash. But the good 298 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 14: news is that it looks like this is moving through 299 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 14: and moving forward, and that's really what all of us 300 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 14: were hoping to avoid. 301 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: Is there still a question though now about Speaker McCarthy's future, 302 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: because there were Republicans who are very vehemently against this deal. Absolutely. 303 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 14: I mean, I think what's notable is that he did 304 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 14: manage to get about two thirds of Republicans on board 305 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 14: with this bill. I think if it had been you know, 306 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 14: if he didn't get the majority of the majorities, he 307 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 14: kept saying that would have been a problem, but the 308 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 14: fact that that many supported him suggests that even if 309 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 14: there were, you know, a few individuals or some of 310 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,239 Speaker 14: the Freedom Caucus who were trying to threaten his speakership, 311 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 14: it seems that he has enough support from within the 312 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 14: caucus that he could override. Then I think they know 313 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 14: they don't have the votes to push something like that 314 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 14: right now. So for the time being, I think this 315 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 14: is pretty much a win for McCarthy, but he knows 316 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 14: he's on thin ice with you many of the far 317 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 14: right members of the party. 318 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 2: Only about thirty seconds here. Does this also then speak 319 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: well for more moderate voices in either party in the 320 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: broader sense, one would hope. 321 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 14: So again, I would say the debt ceiling is a 322 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 14: little bit of a distinct issue, and I would note 323 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 14: that even some of the votes did not go with 324 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 14: some woe maybe expect Marjorie Taylor Green, Jim Jordan. Some 325 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 14: that we think as being more farther on the right 326 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 14: voted for this, and I do think that speaks to 327 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 14: how McCarthy was able to kind of leverage some of 328 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 14: his relationships here. So we'll see if that carries over 329 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 14: to other issues. 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