1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up? 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Straight Fire? Fam? It is me Jason McIntyre, Straight fire. Poor. Monday, 3 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: June sixth a decent night in the Association, Warriors bounced back. 4 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: I didn't even want to open with the game because 5 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: it was such a hellish weekend. Did It was just 6 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: a busy week, like a lot of things happening, And 7 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: you guys know, I like to talk about playing in 8 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: the Dad Basketball League, and we wrecked our first two opponents, 9 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: and then the rest of the team was like, yeah, 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: we should talk to the commission about moving up. We're 11 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: not gonna ever have any competition. Well, what did you 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: know it? We only had six guys this week. We 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: have usually three bigs and we only had one. And 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: we you know, guys are out, guys have stuff going on. 15 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: It's summer. And we face a team that I saw 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,319 Speaker 1: them play last week and I was like, oh, these 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: guys are okay, they've got some bigs, but we will 18 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: smash up. They lost a team that we destroyed, so 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: they show up early and there's a new guy on 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: their team and it is very clear he can play. 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: He looked like Anthony Edwards, like a six to Anthony Edwards, 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: and I see him during warm ups and I say 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: to my daughter, Brent, are the rest of the guys 24 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: on the team talking to him? Does it look like 25 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: he's with them? And she does yeah, and I was like, 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: damn it, and I knew it was gonna be a problem. 27 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: And he takes our best wing defender off the bounce 28 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: on the first play for an and one, and I 29 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: was like, oh jeez, this is not good. And then 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: about three minutes into the game, you know, we missed 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: a shot and he leaks out and does a reverse dunk, 32 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: and uh, it was a problem. We end up losing. 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: It was yeah, listen, you're not gonna win the ball. 34 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: And are we have a competitive group. We are a 35 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: bunch of competitive dudes. And the amount of emails I 36 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: actually got a phone call like we are team is 37 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: this is just we can't lose again. So um, I don't. 38 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: We have already circled the rematch. It is next month, 39 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you this, we will not lose rematch. 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: We will have our full squad and beat that ass that. 41 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: The kid was awesome. He played junior college somewhere in 42 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: Arizona and basically last week after the team saw us 43 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: destroying a team in the game after them, he told 44 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: me after the game, he goes, I saw what you 45 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: guys did to those guys. I said, we need reinforcements. 46 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: So then he adds this guy, this guy had not 47 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: played yet this season. He's dominant. Anyways, that's life. And 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: you know who also looked dominant Sunday Night, My main man, 49 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: Jordan Pool, one of my easiest bet winners of the 50 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: NFL NBA postseason. Jordan Pool over one and a half 51 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: threes that cast before the end of the third quarter. 52 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: I told you guys on Friday's pod the Warriors needed 53 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: more Jordan's Pool. What happened? Jordan Pool hit five, three, 54 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: seventeen points twenty three minutes and wouldn't you know it? 55 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: What did you know it? That Al Horford after hitting 56 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 1: I believe it was six threes, hit zero, didn't even 57 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: take one. What did you know it? Derek White the 58 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: hero from the Other night four or thirteam minus seventeen, 59 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: Marcus smart Oh for three from deep Just a shocking 60 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: development that Water finds its level and the role players 61 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: did not hit a million threes for the comeback. And 62 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: there's so many different ways to look at what happened 63 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 1: in these first two games. It really depends on who 64 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: you talk to. That's how they view it. Because I'm 65 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: just gonna remind you, guys, third quarter, Game one, Warriors 66 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: up fifteen, looking for the knockout blow. Celtics put together 67 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 1: a historically great quarter, seven threes in a row, hit 68 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: nine threes in the quarter. Okay, and they win game one. 69 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: Then they come out Game two. What happens where you saying, Oh, 70 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: guess what, We're not gonna double off Jalen Brown, We're 71 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: not gonna double off Tatum. We're hugging up the shooters. 72 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: And it kind of worked. Um, Boston did still make 73 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: fifteen threes, but a lot of them were garbage time. 74 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: Uh Nick Stowskis remember him, Sam Houser, somebody with the 75 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: last name fits. I mean, you know, basically, the Warriors 76 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: third quarter mashed them again and then there was no 77 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: comeback this time. So what do you what? What do 78 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: you make of this? And I think that's where we 79 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: want to start with Rob. Yes, I'm gonna get to 80 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: the Donovan Mitchell stuff. Um, obviously Donovan Mitchell demanding out 81 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: would be massive. He hasn't gotten there yet, but Rob, 82 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: I just want to keep it here. My view is 83 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: everybody was selling the Warriors. I I heard somebody say 84 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: that they like the Celtics in five, and I'm like, 85 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: are we really doing that? Are you sure? Just off 86 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: one game? I know this is a great Boston team. 87 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: They haven't lost back to back playoff games this year, 88 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: so Game three is gonna be huge, obviously, because then 89 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: they have Game four at home. That being said, I 90 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: still like Golden Say I'm not dumping them. They made 91 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: the smart moves right. Draymond Green did not attempt twelve shots, 92 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: he took three. He stayed in his lane. He mouthed 93 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: off as he is want to do, but he's stuck 94 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: to what he does best. Clay Thompson still didn't not 95 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: deliver four of nineteen. I mean, at this point, you know, 96 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: you guys have to be with me. This ain't the 97 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: same Clay. He's probably jelly legged given missing two seasons 98 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: and now he's a deep in a playoff run. One 99 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: of eight from deep Kevon Looney once again a hero. 100 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: I love this kid. He's a perfect fit. Wiggins had 101 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: a mediocre shooting game, but he he did everything else 102 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: pretty well and Steph Curry is Steph Curry twenty nine points. 103 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: I wonder where the Steph Curry baschers are now? Oh wait, 104 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: Jason wasn't close to the fourth. Of course, Curry delivered. 105 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: That's what they're gonna say, so I'm not even gonna ask. 106 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: This was about my main man, Pool coming off the bench, 107 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: and Gary Payton gave good minutes. By the way, Igudala 108 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: did not play. So Celtics returned to Earth right and 109 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: the Warriors basically did what we expect. They basically were 110 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: almost the same team that they were in game one 111 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: huge third quarter run, not a great fourth, but then 112 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: again did not even play, So he's a little rested, 113 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: and folks, I'm sticking with my Warriors. Pick uh um. 114 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: My only concern would be if Curry has a very 115 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: very off game, they're in deep, deep, deep trouble. Um 116 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: unless Jordan Pool can keep percolating. And man, he has 117 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: fun to watch. I don't. I don't think he's obviously 118 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: gonna be an m v P of the series, but 119 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: I do think he will be integral if the Warriors 120 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: win a rub. Yeah, he'd have to be because the 121 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, Clay Thompson is the shell of himself, and 122 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: it's gotten worse and worse as the postseason has gone on, 123 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: unless they're in a Game six where Game six Clay 124 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: shows up, who, in my opinion, is probably the greatest 125 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: player of all time. But you know, unless we get 126 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: to that point, you know, it's hard to count on 127 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: anything consistently from Clay Thompson. And it wouldn't be fair 128 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 1: for you to ask it from because, like you mentioned, 129 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: he missed two straight seasons, not just because you know 130 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: he was like a broken finger or you know, broken 131 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: foot or whatever. No, he had a torn a c 132 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: l which up until what maybe seven eight years ago, 133 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: was considered the worst injury you can get in professional sports, 134 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: and then he made it worse than at a torn achilles, 135 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: which is now known as the worst injury you can 136 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: get a professional sport. So he's coming back from to 137 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: brutal injuries, and it wouldn't be fair to ask much 138 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: from as it relates to this game and this series overall. 139 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how you can make any sweeping, you know, 140 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: commentary about either of these teams right now. Um As 141 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: the noted Steph Curry hater on this program, I will say, 142 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: Steph Curry was fantastic last night. It wasn't just the shooting. 143 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: It was when he made those shots, like a couple 144 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: of those threes in that third quarter, which is backbreakers. 145 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: Like it wasn't like, oh, you know, in the first 146 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: quarter of the last of Game one when he had 147 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: twenty one, but they you know, and the quarter, I 148 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: think they're only up four or something like that. So 149 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: he was scoring, but it wasn't as impactful as what 150 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: he was doing last night. And on the defensive end, 151 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: Steph Curry, I don't think he's ever going to be 152 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: a great defender. He's he's doesn't move his feet all 153 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: that quick. He's not a super athletic guy. He's pretty thin. 154 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: But what he does have a going for him is 155 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: for all the thought to talk about him being small, 156 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: he's still six three with pretty decent length on his arms. 157 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: As someone who yeah, who's As someone who stood next 158 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: to him and took a picture and then had twenty 159 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: people asked, dude, you're are you super short? Uh? And 160 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, Curry is six three and he's long. 161 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: When you stand next to him, he's like a legit 162 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: six three. He's not like some tiny guy now I 163 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: haven't stood next to Lebron, so I don't I don't 164 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: know what six eight or six nine is like. But Curry, no, 165 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: no doubt, is a legit six three rob. Yeah, he's 166 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: long and more importantly, and this is something that Damian 167 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: Lillard can take note of that Russell Westbrook can take 168 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: note of. Is he gives effort defensively. He's not always effective, 169 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: but he tries on the defensive end. And last night 170 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: there was a lot of time where he had switched 171 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: on to Jalen Brown, switched on to al Horford in 172 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: the post, and to his credit, even when he gave 173 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: up buckets, he was working to keep him away from 174 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: where they wanted to go. So I thought Steph Curry 175 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: was easily the best player on the floor, and in fact, 176 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: I'll say this, through two games, I think he's probably 177 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: the only one who can say he played well in 178 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: both of them, and that's with him playing like garbage 179 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: through half of Game one. Like Steph Curry has looked 180 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: as advertised in this series, he's been the best player 181 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: on the floor through both games. Unfortunately for Golden State, 182 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: though I don't know who else you can count on 183 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: going forward. That's my only concern if I'm Golden State 184 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins. Baby, going on the road is gonna be tough. 185 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: But Boston weirdly has been better on the road than 186 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: they have at home in the playoffs. So I don't know. 187 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: I just I still don't have this fear of really 188 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: anyone on Boston other than Tatum. Like Jillen Brown is 189 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: very good, but I'm not afraid of him. Um, Tatum 190 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: obviously is the guy. Other than that, like Grant Williams, 191 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: go ahead and take all the shots you want, like 192 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: Derek White, You're not duplicating that. Um. It's funny you 193 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: talk about Curry's defense, so Rob, I I know, like 194 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: eight people care. But in that basketball game we lost 195 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: Sunday night. Um, so this dominant player on their team, 196 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: I think he was like six too, and like he's 197 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: got clearly lifted a lot of weights. He had that 198 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: quick twitch, incredible handle, right, So we thought we'd put 199 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: our best defender on him, and we had our second 200 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: best wining defender on him. So in the third quarter 201 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: we're down like fifteen, I was like, guys, how about this, 202 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: I'll just guard him. I'm double his age, but I 203 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: will face guard him. The entire way. I'll just deny 204 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: him the ball. I won't let him get the ball 205 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: best I can, and we'll see what the other guys 206 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: can do. Literally, I'll have my back to the offense 207 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: just being ready to pounce. And we cut the lead 208 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: to five, and I just I told the guys, I'll 209 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: sacrifice my offense, whatever offense I've got, um, and I'll 210 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: just I'll try to take this guy out. We cut 211 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: it to five in the final minute and then they 212 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: had they made their free throws and UM. But like 213 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: the amount, Rob, and I know that that this is 214 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: gonna make people laugh that, like O Jason, you're comparing 215 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: the amount of energy you spent defensively against a good 216 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: player in a wreck league to Steph Curry. I mean again, first, 217 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: Curry to get getting switched on Tatum and Brown, that's exhausting. 218 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: Those are like six seven awesome offensive talents and Curry's 219 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: gotta play them. Then he's got to go be the 220 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: center of their entire offense. Rob, the Curry is working 221 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: his tail off and for him to get rest the 222 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: almost the entire fourth quarter of the entire fourth quarter, 223 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: that is awesome. That's huge, massive for them. Now you 224 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: could say the same as true. Well, I mean ja 225 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: like Al Horford played twenty eight minutes, Robert Williams, who 226 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: is starting to look like he may not work in 227 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: this series. Um like they barely played Marcus Smart Brown 228 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: under thirty minutes, like they'll be rested too, fair enough. 229 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: But Curry is also thirty four years old and has 230 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: been due six five finals previously, so he's got a 231 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: lot more tread on the tires than the Celtics. Fox 232 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 233 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot 234 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: com and within the I Heart Radio app search f 235 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: s R to listen live. It's too early to make 236 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: any bets for Game three. That being said, I think 237 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: you've probably got to go Boston, right Rob. I think 238 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: it just that's got to be. This is going to 239 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: be a long series. Like, I mean, you watch this game, 240 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: and I know that everyone's gonna say, well, you know, 241 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: goals they want by nineteen the other three quarters Boston 242 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: plus two. So this is one of those series where 243 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: it's going to be one either by some blitz in 244 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: the middle of the third quarter or in the game 245 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: one of blitz in the beginning of the fourth quarter. 246 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: That ultimately is the difference, because I think both of 247 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: these teams are evenly matched. I think Boston has more talent. 248 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: I think that they're best is probably better than Golden 249 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: State's best. But Steph Curry seems to be the only 250 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: one you can count on night in and night out 251 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: in this series at all. Just looking at the box scores. 252 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: If he didn't watch the game game one, in game two, 253 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like Andrew Wiggins played fin in game 254 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: one in four of twelve last night. Clay Thompson has 255 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: been missing this entire series. Jordan Pool has seven ten 256 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: in game two and he was invisible in game one. 257 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: You brought up Al Horford, Marcus Smart, So it's like, 258 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: who on a night tonight basis can you count on. 259 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 1: You can't even say that about Jayson Tatum because throughout 260 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: this whole post season he's been kind of a roller coaster. 261 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: Curry has really been, for my money, the most consistent 262 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: player in these finals and throughout most of the postseason. Yeah, 263 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: it's weird. Marcus Smart five turnovers one basket. Like again, 264 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: he's he's not like a model of consistency. And I 265 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: will say I like the Gary Peyton minutes he is, 266 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: He's just everywhere man. That guy is just like you know, 267 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: his story getting to the league, right, he was, His 268 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: dad was super famous and incredible and usually, I mean 269 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: historically most you know players of former NBA guys, they 270 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: kind of grew up in privilege and they don't work 271 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: as hard. Now. Curry is obviously, you know, the polar 272 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: opposite of that um, but Peyton is a pretty good story. 273 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: You know, his dad, I think career steals leader or 274 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: something like that. Maybe he's number two to stocked it. 275 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, but Olympian UM all defensive team, like 276 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: a historically great player. Probably he was on the top 277 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: seventy five, right Gary Payton, Yes, I would expect. Okay 278 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: and his son, you know, was okay player in the 279 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: PAC twelve at Oregon State, and then I was like, Okay, 280 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: is he gonna play Europe? I don't know if he's 281 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: an NBA player, worked his butt off, gets to the 282 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: league and and you know, they like him a lot 283 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: in Golden State, and his story is a good one, 284 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: and I think he's going to be a big factor 285 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: in Game three. If the Warriors win Game three, I 286 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: will personally guarantee you that Gary Payton the Second a 287 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: k a. The Mitten has a monster game in some capacity. 288 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: Now seven five and three Steels would be a monster 289 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: game for him, because we have a lot of listeners 290 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: now l A. For anyone who's unfamiliar with Gary Payton 291 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: the Second, he's Alex Caruso basically because he can't shoot. 292 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: He's you know, if he can get to the rim 293 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: pretty well, he can finish at the rim, but he 294 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: is just a menace defensively, and he makes a lot 295 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: of the little plays happen that you need to win games. Oh, 296 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: speaking of Alex Cruzo. Okay, well we'll pivot away from 297 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: the series, so we'll get to Donovan Minchil a second. 298 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: So we went, wife and I went to this wine 299 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: auction in our town, um, Saturday night, and you know, 300 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: you're talking to people and it turns out, you know, 301 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is our my friend. She 302 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: lives on our street. I've never seen this lady before 303 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: in my life. Um, and she doesn't have kids, so 304 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: I know most of the parents of most of the 305 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: parents of kids. And you know, she says, oh, yeah, 306 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: my husband works at Fox. She's like, oh, you're big 307 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: into sports. I was like, yeah, kind of, and she goes, 308 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: did you know that there was a guy on the 309 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: Clippers renting that house across from our other friends? And 310 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: now this is literally I could throw a football to 311 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: this house. I was like, wait a minute, who who 312 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: was on the Clippers living on my block? And and 313 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: the woman goes, Luke Kennard. I was like what, I 314 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: never saw him once on my street. And then she 315 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: up the anty. This woman. Oh, and then when he 316 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: moved out, a Laker moved in this past season. I 317 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: was like, get out of here, and I was like, listen, 318 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: this is a like this is a tear down house. 319 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: And then the new build and then they had some 320 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: water issues, so then they had to revamp it again. 321 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: And you know, it's like a six million dollar house. Um, 322 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: and it's super nice. I think it probably has ocean 323 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: views from the top. And I've seen a woman, you know, 324 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: like a young Persian type, maybe driving in a really 325 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: nice suv while I'm walking the dog. I've seen the woman, 326 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: never seen the husband ever. The husband is Wayne Ellington 327 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: and the Lakers. So the next time I see her 328 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: and be like, yeah, let me get Wayne and come 329 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: on the podcast. Um. It is very weird to find 330 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: out when big time athletes out get Wayne Ellington. You 331 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: know I want a title at U n c. Um. 332 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: We're just in an area kind of by the beach 333 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: and also by the Lakers facility. We are not in 334 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: a major baller neighborhood. We don't even own a house. 335 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: So don't start thinking I'm some I'm some wealthy guy 336 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: that rob hipes us. But I will I will say 337 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: when I first moved here, I played pick up basketball 338 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: with some guys and this guy was delivering pizza on 339 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: the side. He goes, Dude, I delivered a pizza Julius Randall, 340 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: And I'm like that that sounds like a funny line 341 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: high He's like, no, seriously, And then I saw Randall 342 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: in his car right in that area. I was like, 343 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: the guy was not lying because we we live a 344 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: close drive to the Lakers facility in Alsagundo. Um, and 345 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: there's your Luke Kinnard Wayne Ellington update from Jason McIntyre. 346 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: Now let's get to real NBA news. Who I don't 347 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: know is this qualifies a wod bomb. That Quinn Snyder 348 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: who was kind of twisting in the wind there. They 349 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: would not extend him. He decided, screw it, I'm out. 350 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: Quinn Snyder bails on the Jazz. They had made the 351 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: playoffs six years in a row, which is, by the way, 352 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: the longest active streak in the West. Think about that 353 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: for a second, Clippers, Lakers, that's not bad. Six years 354 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: in a row. Another great stat for Quinn Snyder in 355 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: the Jazz. You trap played fifty one playoff games in 356 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: the last six seasons, second most in the West. You're like, 357 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that's amazing. But they never got to 358 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: the conference finals. There was a little Gordon Heyward action, 359 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: and there's Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert, and Donovan Mitchell 360 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: is now not happy. Quinn Snyder gone. If you're looking 361 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: for your out, Donovan Mitchell, this is it. Force your 362 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: way out. And everybody in Utah is gonna say the 363 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: same thing. He has no leverage. Uh Jay, look at 364 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: his contract. He can't go anywhere, folks. I mean, you 365 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: guys want to keep saying this, but the reality is 366 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: anybody in the NBA canforce the way out of a 367 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: contract anyone. We just saw it with James Harden, We 368 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: just saw it with Ben Simmons. They got their way. 369 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell is slated to make thirty meal next year, 370 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: then thirty two and thirty four, then a player option 371 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: for thirty seven. Rudy Gobert actually making more money than 372 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell. Maybe that's another part of the problem. But 373 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: this is a Jazz team that is backsliding. But Donovitch 374 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: getting old one year left, Mike Conley not looking like 375 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: the Mike Conley everybody expected to see, Jordan Clarkson good, 376 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: sixth man, Royce O'Neil extremely limited. You know, Rudy Gobert 377 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: is up there in age. They don't have any anybody young, 378 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: and the coming down and you start looking at the West, 379 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: and Rob and I have talked about this, like I 380 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: don't Jazz are not a top five team in the West. 381 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: It is not. Their window was small. It was against 382 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: the Clippers when Kauai got hurt and they couldn't get 383 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: the job done. And then of course Donovan and Rudy 384 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: chirping at each other, and now Quinn Snyder stepping down. 385 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: And according to Adrian wood Narowski, this is exactly what 386 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: he said in the aftermath of Snyder's departure as Jazz coach. 387 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: All Star guard Donnovan Mitchell is described as unsettled, unnerved, 388 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: and wondering what it means for the franchise is future, Well, 389 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: the franchise is gonna be fine. Uh Is Donovan Mitze 390 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: gonna be fine? Now, let's not get too crazy here. 391 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: I don't see a scenario where you trade a star. 392 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: He's the top twenty player in the league, top twenty, 393 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: top Annie, Rob, maybe maybe top fifteen. I don't know, 394 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: we gotta break that down, but he's certainly top twenty. 395 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: It seems unlikely that the Jazz would capitulate and just say, sure, 396 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: we'll trade you to a team in the West. That 397 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like a scenario to me. So Rob and 398 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: I were kicking around some ideas of where Donovan Mitchell 399 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: could go. The obvious is the New York Knicks. Right, 400 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: Knicks are desperate for a star. They will overpay, they 401 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: will give you draft picks, They will probably part with R. J. 402 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: Barrett if you twisted their arm. I think you've got 403 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: to consider the Knicks. I think the Miami Heat. I 404 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: know they almost made the finals, but this team started 405 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: to look like where do we create shots? And Tyler 406 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: Hero had been speculated about in multiple trades. I think 407 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: you have to wonder do they say picks Tyler hero 408 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: Duncan Robinson, who never plays, will toss in anything except 409 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler and Bama to Bio and and maybe maybe 410 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: you have the beginnings of something, rob I would love 411 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: for there to be a super team somewhere, but I'll 412 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: toss you this last one. I can't find a super 413 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: team in East Brooklyn. I just don't see it. Like 414 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving is not going to go to Utah. I'm 415 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: sure you'd rather retire. And I don't see how the 416 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: Sixers could do it because you know again, James Harden 417 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: is not going to go to Utah. It's just not 418 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: like is that not one of the funniest mixes ever? 419 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: James Harden Strip Club aficionado going to Utah? Like, I 420 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: just don't see it. I don't see the Celtics making 421 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: a move after making the finals the last team and 422 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: I haven't fully thought this through, but is there a 423 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: sign in trade with maybe Zach Lavine, who has expressed 424 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 1: interest in the past about possibly moving on. I just 425 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: I don't know that that really moves the meter for me. 426 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: If I'm Donovan Mitchell like I go to Chicago to 427 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: play with Ulnzo Ball, Alex Crusoe and uh like a 428 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 1: decent cast of characters, like I'm looking at the Bulls. 429 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: I just is that even an upgrade from the Jazz 430 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: other than the fact that you're in the easier conference? 431 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: Like rob if I mean, if you're Donovan Mitchell and 432 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: I say Chicago Bulls, are you getting excited? You're like 433 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: me as the kids like to say. It's like, oh 434 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: well you got to Rosen, you got Patrick Williams. Like 435 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: it's a good team, but are you top four? And 436 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: these probably not? Right? Uh, I mean regular season you 437 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: probably you might be. I'm sure you are. Actually you 438 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: know because just because the regular season and the post 439 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: season to totally different. Okay, wait, hold on, okay, everybody's healthy. 440 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: Celtics Bucks six nets, nets. I forgot about the nets, 441 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: so maybe around there. Um. The problem though is if 442 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: he goes to Chicago is you have the same issue 443 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: that you have in Utah, just in the Eastern Conference 444 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: where you have you don't have the defenders to to 445 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: really make any noise. Like Demarda, Rosen and Nikolavukovich are 446 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: two of in my opinion, probably like the bottom third 447 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: defenders in their position in the NBA, in the in 448 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: the league, you're really banking on Alex Caruso being able 449 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: to just be a Tasmanian devil and make up for everything. 450 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: Patrick Williams to stay healthy and show that he can 451 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,239 Speaker 1: be that level of defender, and Lonzo Ball hasn't been 452 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: healthy at all really in his last couple of seasons. 453 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 1: So it's hard for you to count on those guys 454 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: to be able to make up for all of Donovan 455 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: mitchell shortcoming because Donovan Mitchell is in that Damian Lillard 456 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: Russell Westborough category I mentioned earlier, where you would think, 457 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: based on their athletic physical profile that he would be 458 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: a good defender, and he's just not well. From Donovan 459 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: Mitchell's camp, Hey, rob, I had one of the best 460 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: defensions in the league and Rudy Gobert. Would that get 461 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: us well? I mean that that yes? That is I 462 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: don't know how much does defense matter like it does 463 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: because Utah's problem is they only run one kind of 464 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: good defense where they have one good defender, which is Gobert, 465 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: and everybody else aside from Royce O'Neil is a sieve. 466 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: So when you get to the postseason and there's actual 467 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: good teams you're going against who can game plan against you. 468 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: They're they're able to drive and kick like nobody's business, 469 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: because nobody can stay in front of anyone on the 470 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: outside on the wings, like Mike Conley is busted, Jordan 471 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: Clarkson has never been a good defender. Uh Bogdanovich is 472 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: slow footed, to to put it, night like lightly, like 473 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: they don't have guys who can defend outside of Royce 474 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: ro'neil and Rudy gobert Um. I think of those teams 475 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: that you mentioned, the ones that makes the most sense 476 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: to me as Miami. I know that our friend of 477 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: the show, Rick Bucker had reported back in January. I 478 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: believe that there's been a lot of conversations around the NBA, 479 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: both in for an office, is that in the scouting 480 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: world that he has eyes for New York and he 481 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: just wanted to go home, you know, for years, Like 482 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: that's been the his end game for the last two 483 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: or three seasons was to get to the Knicks at 484 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: some point. The problem though, is you'd probably have to 485 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: give up r J. Barrett and at that point, what 486 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: do you have to build? You're gonna give a bunch 487 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: of picks. Is Donovan Mitchell and Julius Randall even a 488 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: guaranteed playoff team in these I guess the hope is like, Wow, 489 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,479 Speaker 1: this is gonna sound silly, but like, is anybody coming 490 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: to the Knicks to play with r J? Barrett? And? 491 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: Before I sound like an idiot, yes, I know r 492 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: J and Zionra college teammates. That being said, if you've 493 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: got Donovan Mitchell, is anybody coming to play with Donovan 494 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: Mitchell in New York? And? I would counter that, Yeah, 495 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: top twenty player in the league. Who wouldn't want to 496 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: play with him? Yeah? I mean you're you're the problem 497 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: with that line of thinking, though, is when's the last 498 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: time the New York Knicks attracted a free agent Maristomeyer 499 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: and his bad knees. R I's got to do the 500 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: one right? That might be, well, how did they get 501 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: randoled trade? Yes? Well, I can make sure, but I'm 502 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: almost positive it was a trade. Yeah, they traded for 503 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: Carmelo Anthony Um. That was a horrible deal for them, 504 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: the Denver trade so bad. But they were pretty good. 505 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: You know, this, this this idea that that the Mellow 506 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: era was a disappointed. I think that was the most 507 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: successful that you guys series. That's more than you guys 508 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: have done since like what the early nineties, late nineties. Okay, 509 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: so that gets like, what is one playoff series? Are 510 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: you in the middle because Portland is like, you know, 511 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,719 Speaker 1: I think ground zero for what the middle is? Right, 512 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: Dave and c J were a playoff team for like 513 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: eight years in a row. They would go to the 514 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 1: conference finals. They would lose in the first round Conference 515 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: summy's losing the first round conference finals. Whatever. Utah is 516 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: kind of on that treadmill. I think the Knicks were 517 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: barely on that treadmill with Carmelo, I'm I'm a firm 518 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: believer and you've got to bottom out, really do I know? 519 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: People in Portland hated when I said, you know, go 520 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: ahead and trade Damon bottom out. Like, if you're Utah, 521 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: I don't know why you're stopping at Donovan Mitchell. You 522 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: might as well just unload Rudy Gobert if you can 523 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: trade both of them. Say you know what, We're gonna 524 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: go have a quobo bite to the apple. We're trusting 525 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: our scouting system. We're gonna find another Donovan Mitchell. We're 526 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: gonna find another Rudy Gobert because that's what we do. 527 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: Or the alternative is, hey man, we're making money making 528 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: the playoffs. You know, it's nice to make the postseason, 529 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: put extra money for the for the owner. But we 530 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: ain't winn a no title. You're not even a contender, 531 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: So I don't know, Rob, It's just it's probably a 532 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: real tough sell to your fans to trade your two 533 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: best players off a team that's been in the playoffs 534 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: six years in a row. And quick correction, Julius Randall 535 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: was a free agent stand correct July three year, sixty 536 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: three million dollars with Nicks because they struck out on 537 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: you know, Kevin Duran and Kyrie Irvings and we've got 538 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: Julius Randall. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 539 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 540 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart 541 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: Radio app search f s R to listen live. What 542 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: you're saying is the right blay. If you're gonna trade 543 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell, you might as well trade Rudy Gobert. You 544 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: might as well try to offload the Mike on Lee 545 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: contract with one of those guys and just bottom out completely. 546 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: Because Utah has never been a free agent destination. The 547 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: best way for you to get stars is to draft him. 548 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: The problem, though, and you brought this up, is most 549 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: of these mid market franchises, not all of them, but 550 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: most of them would much rather just be decent forever 551 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: than swing for the fences or bottom out. Indiana is 552 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: the perfect example of this. When's the last time Indiana 553 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: had a top three draft pick? I think it was 554 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: top three, good, top five whatever I thought first, I 555 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: thought top ten was like, it's something's crazy like that, 556 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: Like they would much rather win thirty five to forty 557 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: games every season, make a little money selling tickets, and 558 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: keep an ownership happy. Like they don't have any aspirations 559 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: to really push all in like that either either direction, 560 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: whether it's the all in trading your draft picks so 561 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: that you can go for it all the way or 562 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: bottoming out like that's they're comfortable in that purgatory. I 563 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: think Utah, based on what we've seen, they're kind of 564 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: the same way. So I don't see them training both 565 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: of those guys um and there's it's probably difficult to 566 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: find a trade equivalent of someone of Mitchell's caliber let 567 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 1: me just quickly, how many times has Donovan Mitchell been 568 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: All NBA rub Yes, I'll look it up. You guess, 569 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: I will guess. One surveys says zero. Never been one 570 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: of the six best guards in the league. Now he 571 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: is still extremely young. He's twenty five actually turn twenty 572 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 1: six at the start of next season, so he's still ascending. 573 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: Um never, He's a three time All Star. He was 574 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: an All Rookie team, but he's never been All NBA. Like, 575 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe he's not a top twenty player. 576 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I guess all NBA would be 577 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: your top fifteen, right for second third team, He's always 578 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: he should have made an MBA. Not this season but 579 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: the season before. We're killing it. Who would you rather have? 580 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell is your one or Jalen Brown as your two? 581 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: Brown is right, so is Donovan Mitchell even a one? 582 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: You're not a wrong guy because I'm basically on championships. 583 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: Like my my line of thinking is so much different 584 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: than the NBA. Like if if you hadn't seen Jimmy 585 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: Butler in the bubble, get to the finals and give 586 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: the Lakers a scare for like a game and a half. 587 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: Would you have ever said Jimmy Butler is a one 588 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: on a championship team. I mean, you know, I've Jimmy 589 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: Butler is a bad example for me because I'm a 590 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: major fanboy. But there's probably not a lot of number 591 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: one's out there, right if you want to, like Kauai 592 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: is a one, right, lebron and one we've seen Anthony 593 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: Davis is a one in New Orleans and I think 594 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: they might have got out of the first round once, right, 595 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: So Anthony Davis, who is a top ten player in 596 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: the league one healthy, ain't even a number one in 597 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: this league. That's how hard it is now. I believe 598 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: Tatum is a one or I mean you might disagree. No, 599 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think Tatum is one. Absolutely. 600 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: I think there's maybe five or six guys that you 601 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: can say definitively. I think you can get to the 602 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: If you can get to the finals, you're and you're 603 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: a one. So I would go Butler Tatum. Be honest, guys, 604 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: don't kill me. I don't think can beat the one. 605 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: I know Jason, he's almost the MVP of the league. 606 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: Handlin will never come on this podcast. See I'm sorry 607 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: if he's a one. Could how how has he not 608 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: made the conference finals? Ever? Okay, uh Toronto Raptors, they 609 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: don't have a one. I like Zach Lavine, I don't 610 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: think he's a one. Kevin Duran is a one. Kyrie 611 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: Eving's not a one. Trey Young, I'm gonna say he's 612 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: a one, but he's on the bottom end of ones 613 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: because of the lack of defense. But he got the 614 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: he the Hawks to the conference finals last year. I 615 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: know there's some luck involved in that, but he was 616 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: unbelievable in the playoffs. Cleveland Calves do not have any ones. 617 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: No no Hornets, no Knicks, no Wizards, no pacersh no, 618 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: no Pistons, no magic. So in on the Sun's I 619 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: think we've seen Devin Booker as a one and he's 620 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: he's not a one, right, I think that's fair to say. 621 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: So he's a two. Um, Chris Paul, I just don't. 622 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put him as a two. Also, I just don't. 623 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: If he's your best player, how has he never made 624 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: the finals? Like injuries? Unlucky? I mean, I know what 625 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: you're saying, Jason, your bar is too high, But like 626 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: John Moran is I know with a lot of people. 627 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: John Moranto one, Okay, you want to say he is fine, 628 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: Christines look better without him back against the Warriors in 629 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: the playoffs. At he's very good. It's not a slight either, 630 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: Rob to say, somebody's not a one. But I'm guessing 631 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: you think Jah is a one. I think he definitely 632 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: has the potential to be a one. Korea one, no question, Luca. Yes. 633 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: And then it becomes the Donovan Mitchell Rudy Gobert question. Um, 634 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: if Rudy Gobert is your best player, are you getting 635 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: in the finals? I would say no. If Donovan Mitchell 636 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: is are you again, I'm gonna go no. And it's 637 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: not a slight. But again, you have to look at 638 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: it from the Knicks perspective. We haven't gotten anyone and 639 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: forever we will gladly take Donovan Mitchell as our one. Right. 640 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: If you're the Indiana Pacers, you've taken Donovan Mitchell in 641 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: a heartbeat, but you you also know you're not winning 642 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: the championship. You can like have a good season. The 643 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: Pacers got with Paul George as a one. As a one, 644 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: they got to the conference finals I think twice against 645 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: Lebron Or was it once and then the Semis and 646 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: pushed him seven. But it's tough to find ones. I mean, Yokich, 647 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm willing to say he's a one, but I Jamal. 648 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: He had Jamal Murray when they got to the conference finals, 649 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: and like Jamal Murray, I have as big of a 650 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: crush on Jamal Murray as I did Jayson Tatum and 651 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: Luca Obviously, where are you on Joey Ki? Yes, absolutely 652 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: he's a one. Karl, Anthony Towns, Anthony Edwards possibly, Oh, 653 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: I was gonna say not yet. I full agreement. I 654 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: think Anthony Edwards is. I mean, he's that guy's he's crazy. 655 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: Um Zion, I'm gonna go t B D. You know, 656 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're gonna say no, no, he's not. He 657 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: hadn't seen enough for you to say either way, right 658 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: TV Okay Kauai, Yes, Paul George is that. I think 659 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: Paul George is the prototypical two along with Anthony Davis. 660 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: Uh Spurs have nobody, Lakers have lebron Kings. Now, Portland's 661 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,439 Speaker 1: Dame is interesting. Dame is a one, had some really 662 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: good runs with Portland. Can you imagine Dame is a 663 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: two or three with the Lakers dynasty, dynasty. So like, 664 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: you go down the league and I didn't write them 665 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: all down, but that's maybe ten ones. Maybe maybe that's 666 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: that's exactly how it should be. Though, Like I know 667 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: that the league is deeper than ever and we have 668 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: so much time every want to talk about it. If 669 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna say so and so is a superstar, it 670 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: needs to be that upper upper upper crust, that top seven, eight, nine, ten. 671 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: If you go beyond ten, you're not considered a superstar. 672 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: And I know we can counter this forever. But Tracy 673 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: McGrady in his prime was a superstar. Never got his 674 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: teams anywhere. I probably should check that without saying it, 675 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: but I just remember playoff failure after playoff failure. But 676 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean, Tracy McGrady was a superstar, right, yeah, he 677 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: just you know he. I love it that there'd be 678 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: a long conversation for us that you can go through 679 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: the career of Trace McGrady, but I know we're up 680 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: against it. I think that I think that Donovan Mitchell 681 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: is kind of in that Devin Booker category, Chris Paul category, 682 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: where if you get him with another number two at 683 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: things break right, you can absolutely win a championship. So 684 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: if you have two guys like if I'm not saying 685 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: they come together, but if you have a Lillard Mitchell backcourt, 686 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: and you know some great three and D guys, you 687 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: can probably have a good run at it. Um. I 688 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: think that's where you'd have to play with in my opinion, 689 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,919 Speaker 1: m hm. So you've got to find a one who 690 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: really really needs it to Now if this comes back 691 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: to your Miami like Bama to Bio, really good player. 692 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: But it disappointed me against the Celtics, But I think 693 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: there's a decent argument to be made. You put Donovan 694 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 1: Mitchell on that team, and you've got something real nice. 695 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I would give up just 696 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: about anything outside of Baman Butler, whoever you want take it. 697 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think they'll want Lowry, but they're 698 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: gonna have to offload his salary or something. Um. Yeah, 699 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell probably will be one of the biggest names 700 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: we talked about all summer. Um. What else? Any any 701 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: any closing thoughts on the weekend. Did you watch any soccer? 702 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: Rob but I know World Cup is coming up, everybody's 703 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: all excited. No, I did not watch soccer, but I 704 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: did watch top Gun. Oh okay, sir, you did love it? Okay, 705 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 1: I like that. Do you see what the wife? I saw? 706 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: My brothers what did they like it as well? It 707 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: was great. We had the whole basically back road to ourselves. 708 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: It was fantastic because, yeah, some old guys. The old 709 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 1: guy was sitting in front of it was we saw 710 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: the early show like eleven am, so it was maybe 711 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: half full and so the guy was an old man 712 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: in front of us, was cheering clapping it up during 713 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: some parts of the theater. It was pretty awesome. Are 714 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: you a clapper? Not really, but I do appreciate what 715 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 1: other people do it because it gives me more excited 716 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: than Yeah, I feel like you're yeah, I am. You know, 717 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, let's go one of those guys. Not super 718 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 1: loud and all the time, but occasionally um and it's 719 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: just like it's kind of fun. You know, you're in 720 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: a movie theater, have fun. Life is good. Anyways, Uh, 721 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: this was a long one. We'll be back tomorrow. I 722 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: believe we're gonna have a guest who, for the longest 723 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: time was one of our top ten downloaded podcasts ever 724 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,439 Speaker 1: here at straight Fire. As we enter year three. I 725 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: think we're getting him. We'll see um. He is in 726 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: high demand, obviously, but hopefully we'll make it happen. Talk 727 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:34,280 Speaker 1: to you tomorrow.